I love this video and find it so inspiring. When I first saw it, my mind rebelled against the idea that the "problem" lies with the person on the other end of the gun, not with the shooter. I thought it was victim-blaming. However, the more I pondered this, the more I came to understand Byron Katie's point: that the problem of SUFFERING is in the mind of the victim. The moral and legal problems are of course with the shooter (i.e, it's morally wrong and illegal to kill another human being). Katie is simply trying to show that no one has the power to make us suffer unless we give it to them, which is actually the opposite of victim-blaming.
I am so overwhelmed by the patience Byron Katie demonstrates. Her commitment to communicating something that can be nearly impossible to communicate with words as best she can impresses me. I honestly don’t know how she is able to reach so many people. Its attempts at communication in so many ways to reach people, it keeps reaching and reaching.
If the gentleman ever reads this post, this is an interesting podcast on the children of Holocaust survivors. itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/on-being-with-krista-tippett/id150892556?mt=2&i=1000382419278
I love also the language she uses. It's so down to earth. She has such a different voice than others who attempt to explain these realizations. She's a treasure that way, and in so many other ways. And I've loved hearing the evolution of her efforts to explain what she came to understand so deeply, because it has evolved over the years.
It's such an incredible place to be when you are connected. We seem to have beliefs that worry and fear will prevent the worst from happening, but it's actually the opposite
Just want to express by thanks for Byron Katie. I've been using the Work now for I don't know... 10 years? It's so useful. It's so practical. It evolves with me. I would guess I've done it hundreds of times. Now, I'm off to do it on two statements this afternoon. Have a good day.
Her words are inspirational. Just because others don't care for me, doesn't mean I can't care for them. My feelings are mine. I can feel what I want without the words or actions of others. I am not alone even if I am not in the thoughts of other people. What a wonderful realization that I need not be lonely just because I do not have human companionship.
"Just because others don't care for me, doesn't mean I can't care for them." Yeah, it's like that dialogue in Patch Adams (movie) that I love... - If you don't like me, just say it. - I don't like you! - Why don't you like me? You're a prick, and I like you.
Thank you Katie! When I am explaining the Work, I struggle and sputter with these kinds of questions. I have been called “privileged” trying to explain how inquiry helps in these situations. They could be right and I always feel like there is a “gotcha” because I can’t articulate clearly how the Work serves in those “life threatening” and “evil” situations. I am clearer and more loving every time I do the Work. Thank you Dear Katie❤️🧡💛💚💙💜💕
that is the biggest problem with this work- that it leads to denial, not liberation. when ppl were put into gas chambers it wasn't a good day, but when you sit at home with the air conditioner, your coffee and the cookies, it is very easy to say "it's a wonderful day" on subjects like gas chambers, murder and rape, of course. the real deal is when it hits you personally - then it's a bit challenging to deny.
and what benefit does it get you to just keep thinking of the suffering of others ? start from your suffering and leave the rest, when u get clear you will know what to do as you are acting from wisdom and not fear... an action from wisdom is life changing but an action from fear/anger is life threatening.
No denial, just a distinction between suffering, which is mental, and physical harm. She's trying to teach the end of suffering. That doesn't mean that people will stop harming each other. She's not advocating "pretending" anything. Just don't believe every thought/story that your mind manufactures. Or, if you don't want to stop suffering just yet, keep doing what you're doing. Your choice.
"No One Can Hurt Me, That’s My Job" I assume doesn't negate the fact that it's possible to get damaged by the actions of others; either physically, emotionally, psychologically etc.
Because you don't understand it. Just consider that possibility. Jumping to something like 'omg she's an idiot' is so easy. You can always decide on that after truly exploring what she's saying.
TOTALLY DISAGREE! What happens if the person facing the gun is an Infant or child? In the next second ...they are maimed or killed! They haven't "imagined" a dialogue to take them out of "the moment". Byron's explanation is flawed!
QueensLadyDay You’re right! If it’s a child/infant they can’t “imagine” such a dialogue to take them out of “the moment” because they’re not capable to do so. They remain innocent and happy at that “moment” which is what she’s trying to explain. We have something to learn from children.
I love this video and find it so inspiring. When I first saw it, my mind rebelled against the idea that the "problem" lies with the person on the other end of the gun, not with the shooter. I thought it was victim-blaming. However, the more I pondered this, the more I came to understand Byron Katie's point: that the problem of SUFFERING is in the mind of the victim. The moral and legal problems are of course with the shooter (i.e, it's morally wrong and illegal to kill another human being). Katie is simply trying to show that no one has the power to make us suffer unless we give it to them, which is actually the opposite of victim-blaming.
Oh my God!!! Now I get it!! Now i finally get it!!!! Noone can realy hurt me but me.
Thank you so much!!!!! God bless you
I am so overwhelmed by the patience Byron Katie demonstrates. Her commitment to communicating something that can be nearly impossible to communicate with words as best she can impresses me. I honestly don’t know how she is able to reach so many people. Its attempts at communication in so many ways to reach people, it keeps reaching and reaching.
If the gentleman ever reads this post, this is an interesting podcast on the children of Holocaust survivors. itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/on-being-with-krista-tippett/id150892556?mt=2&i=1000382419278
I love also the language she uses. It's so down to earth. She has such a different voice than others who attempt to explain these realizations. She's a treasure that way, and in so many other ways.
And I've loved hearing the evolution of her efforts to explain what she came to understand so deeply, because it has evolved over the years.
Those hard subjects are the best ones to open people's mind. It's so powerful.
It's such an incredible place to be when you are connected. We seem to have beliefs that worry and fear will prevent the worst from happening, but it's actually the opposite
Just want to express by thanks for Byron Katie. I've been using the Work now for I don't know... 10 years? It's so useful. It's so practical. It evolves with me. I would guess I've done it hundreds of times. Now, I'm off to do it on two statements this afternoon. Have a good day.
"It evolves with me" - yes, thanks for this. Hundreds of times. Intimate. Absolutely guaranteed peace. Many good days to you, too!
Her words are inspirational. Just because others don't care for me, doesn't mean I can't care for them. My feelings are mine. I can feel what I want without the words or actions of others. I am not alone even if I am not in the thoughts of other people. What a wonderful realization that I need not be lonely just because I do not have human companionship.
"Just because others don't care for me, doesn't mean I can't care for them." Yeah, it's like that dialogue in Patch Adams (movie) that I love...
- If you don't like me, just say it.
- I don't like you!
- Why don't you like me? You're a prick, and I like you.
Thank you Katie! When I am explaining the Work, I struggle and sputter with these kinds of questions. I have been called “privileged” trying to explain how inquiry helps in these situations. They could be right and I always feel like there is a “gotcha” because I can’t articulate clearly how the Work serves in those “life threatening” and “evil” situations. I am clearer and more loving every time I do the Work. Thank you Dear Katie❤️🧡💛💚💙💜💕
who needs to explain
if you are doing well could you let them go?
Wonderful, just wonderful Such a mindset genuis.
This is the most profound content on RUclips IMO!
Priceless: Thank You so much Byron.
So grateful for this practical wisdom!
Thank you! I really really needed to hear this message
Beautiful beautiful Katie 🙏
@1:13. Agree with this gentleman. Too much denial going on here. Pretending things are not what they are is just dangerous.
that is the biggest problem with this work- that it leads to denial, not liberation.
when ppl were put into gas chambers it wasn't a good day, but when you sit at home with the air conditioner, your coffee and the cookies, it is very easy to say "it's a wonderful day" on subjects like gas chambers, murder and rape, of course.
the real deal is when it hits you personally - then it's a bit challenging to deny.
EXACTLY.
and what benefit does it get you to just keep thinking of the suffering of others ? start from your suffering and leave the rest, when u get clear you will know what to do as you are acting from wisdom and not fear... an action from wisdom is life changing but an action from fear/anger is life threatening.
No denial, just a distinction between suffering, which is mental, and physical harm. She's trying to teach the end of suffering. That doesn't mean that people will stop harming each other. She's not advocating "pretending" anything. Just don't believe every thought/story that your mind manufactures. Or, if you don't want to stop suffering just yet, keep doing what you're doing. Your choice.
So wonderful!!!! I love this dialogue so much thank tuo Katie
i'm not sure i understand her answer. if someone pulls a rifle on me…THAT'S WHAT SCARES ME. I AGREE WITH THE MAN WHO ASKED THE QUESTION.
What if you thought it was a toy gun, would you be frightened then? Same situation, no fear. It is all imagination.
It's your thoughts about what's gonna happen scaring you, not the rifle itself
Fear is not real, it only exist in your imagination so if you stay rooted in reality there would not be fear.
Thank you! 💕
Moved touched understanding entertained amazed peaceful me ;-)
"No One Can Hurt Me, That’s My Job" I assume doesn't negate the fact that it's possible to get damaged by the actions of others; either physically, emotionally, psychologically etc.
Wow this is awesome
The impact of racism is real. This is not a fear-based response. It is a fact - based response.
I can feel your love
♥️
There is something deeply disturbing about Byron here, and that man hit it right on the head
Because you don't understand it. Just consider that possibility. Jumping to something like 'omg she's an idiot' is so easy. You can always decide on that after truly exploring what she's saying.
TOTALLY DISAGREE! What happens if the person facing the gun is an Infant or child? In the next second ...they are maimed or killed! They haven't "imagined" a dialogue to take them out of "the moment". Byron's explanation is flawed!
QueensLadyDay You’re right! If it’s a child/infant they can’t “imagine” such a dialogue to take them out of “the moment” because they’re not capable to do so. They remain innocent and happy at that “moment” which is what she’s trying to explain. We have something to learn from children.
I need to do a worksheet on this guy
I don't buy it, sorry...
Who says no-one can hurt me?
Once nobody then jobs done of anybody or NO-BUDDY is just BODYLESS jingles.
I love the work of Katie Byron but she goes to far in this video and YES he's right it sounds priviledged and inappropriate
C/O NO-BODY CAN HURT ME
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That dude was annoying
Really? I thoroughly enjoy honest dialogue. What a profound way to get to know another person and how they think. :)