I agree with everything you said. I purchased a 2017 model 650 XT in April 2018. It has currently done 55,000 km, without a single problem. I do my own maintenance. At 54,000 km I did my first valve clearance check. Only one intake valve was in center of spec. The other 7 valves were at the very low end of the specification. I put in thinner shims to put all valves in the center of the specification. Checking valve clearances is easy, however changing shims is a lot more difficult on a 650 because putting the cam chain tensioners back in is a real. PITA. There is a great tutorial on line which is extremely helpful and very thorough. If anyone wants to know how to access it reply to me. I am 80 early next year, so if I can do it so can you and save yourself a ton of money.
I've been riding for over 50 years and have owned over 40 Japanese bikes, {I own 4 right now), and the 2nd gen DL650 is one of my all time favorites, especially as I am nearing retirement and must watch my spending. Anyone who wants to ride, but thinks they probably can't afford a good, capable bike, should check them out. Low mileage, garage kept examples are still out there for great prices, and they are often farkled to the max. With a decent bash plate to protect the header and oil filter from flying debris, they can do just about anything but hardcore off-roading, as they simply do not have the necessary ground clearance and long-travel suspension for that. They are super dependable and capable, street/forest road bikes however, and if you are slow and careful, they do have just enough true off-road capability to get you to that perfect, secluded campsite just beyond the treeline. They absolutely excel at commuting, weekend exploring, and backcountry touring however. They are great on any sort of road, from interstate highways to the poorest asphalt, and even on gravel and dirt roads and beyond. To put it another way, as long as it is called a "road", you should be good to go as long as you adjust your speed as the conditions dictate. Good luck, and thanks for the vid. I never get tired of V-Strom stuff. 👍
I have bought my V-Strom 650 new in 2015. I have clocked 130.000 km, first of all touring but also driving gravel roads and also sporty, just doing maintenance and service without any single problem. Dealers who have different brands confirm this well-known reliability compared to other brands as well as lots of owner in our bike community also confirm and recognize every single word you said. I personally test rided a lot of other adv bikes thinking to get a better one but I was always missing things on these other bikes, which I do not want to miss. - So I was always happy to drive home with my V-Strom recognizing, I have the best of all in total. I will not change until a better bike comes up. So, I may never change. Thanks for this very true hymne to the best bike considering everything. All the best to you all ... Werner ✌👍💪🙏😌🙏💪👍✌
Hi there LS, last week I bought a 1 owner from nearly new, 31,000 kms V-strom 650 and I LOVE it ! It is surprisingly comfortable more than quick enough for me with roll-on power everywhere throughout the rev range, consumption on a trip I just finished today (750 kms roughly) of about 4.2 ltrs/100 kms. We travelled in all sorts of weather and she felt safe, great fun and a 'proper' bike. Can't wait to get out and do more.
I bought a 1st gen 650 for a trip to Alaska; did the 7500 mile trip with no worries at all, and found I liked the bike so much I bought a 2013 and am still riding it. It is what I call a "friendly" bike. The power delivery, the handling are all comfortable. Just a great all arounder with a bulletproof powertrain. A little buzzy at 80 mph, bug nonetheless a great tourer. I also have a Honda ST1300, and find myself favoring the Vstrom for all but really long trips. Ride it every day; really comfortable for this 75 yr old rider.
I own a gen 1 650. I did own a brand new a gem 2 650 when they first came out same as yours in fox orange. I also owned a gen 2 1000. The 650 is by far the best. All the points you bring up are very true. I purchased the Gen 1 purely as an enthusiast to see, feel and experience where it all started. I have not regretted it. It’s definitely a keeper and my favourite of all time bike. I’ve owned over 40 bikes to experience different genres. The 3 actual best bikes for a 3 bike garage to me is a V strom 650, Ninja 400 and a WR250R. Now I’ve had way more exotic bikes and much more powerful. The smaller bikes are cheaper to insurance, cheaper tyres, rego and maintenance. Cheap to purchase. They don’t get as hot. All three bikes a much more fun in twisties. Great for filtering. Perfect amount of power for the street. Light weight to move around the garage. Amazing on fuel. Super reliable. I could go on. You could say the T7 is the perfect bike but it’s doesn’t replace any of the 3. But probably the best bike for a 1 bike owner.
I've owned 2 3rd gen. DL650's. 50k plus miles and never had an electronics problem, or anything else.These bikes have been anvil tough. I had a 1200 GS and that turd was full of gizmos that failed. Gen 2 DL's are great bikes, but I prefer the gen. 3 looks. They haven't changed much, but I love this bike. Have a Z900, Z900RS and a new SV 650, and in the end I'd keep this over all of them. Maybe not the latest and greatest, but I'm proud to ride one.
Many bikes, and the sv, the sister to the wee. Can I ask why? And why you prefer to wee. I have a gen 1 wee and am considering getting a gen 3 sv, hence my interest. Thanks in advance.
@@DavidKD2050 Sorry for late response. The DL650 is so useful compared to the others. They're all fun, but when I want to head out on a trip, I reach for the DL. And, if you're considering an SV, they're great. Excellent brakes, sound, handling and looks. I took it on a 1000 mile trip lately and even the seat was pretty comfortable. Buy one before they stop production. Cheers.
Have the same model as yours now for 9 years, the longest I’ve owned any bike. In 2018/9 I rode it two up around the world. No reliability issues at all in 43,000 miles. Very comfy, over 65mpg😂
Hello mate, I'm leaving in 3 weeks to do a 2up trip in a gen 2, first part the trip is gonna be 9 months. Its largely stock but I'm just about to beef up the suspension as we are loading it up as we are camping the whole time. What did you change on you bike? Have any tips or advice generally?
@@landshark9603 probably a bit late to view your question, however I put on Zeta risers on my 650. I was worried about the cables being long enough but a mate who had them assured me that the cables are ok. The cables were just long enough and I have never had a problem. My Zeta risers lifted the bar up and back. A lot more comfortable for me.
Purchased my 2017 with 8400 miles and Put 15,000 miles on it in the last yr. All Ive done is a valve adj and regular maintenance. With the exception of your hard bags I have the identical accessories. Oxford grip heat, airflow windscreen, givi crash bars, barkbusters etc. Just finished a 3600 mile loop with zero issues. I think I prefer the gen 3 but the color of yours compared to my white one looks nice. One thing I find interesting is comments out there on the vstrom being ugly. I get comments all the time by people saying how much they like my bike. Eyes of the beholder as they say. Things were slim pickings a yr ago and I was not looking for a vstrom. Just stumbled on one at a dealer. Bought used for the accessories and did not have to pay freight and setup. Everyday it makes me realize it does everything I need.
I'm picking up a 2009 model with low km this weekend. Getting back into riding after a 20 years hiatus and really looking forward riding around the NSW Far South Coast. Thanks for your review, it helped me make the decision to go with this bike.
I agree with you fully. We have 3 V Stroms in our family and we have climbed rocky mountain roads and rides through rivers a meter deep and then did 160kph on the highway. The V Strom does it all with ease. And the power is better than similar bikes of that age. Just an awesome bike. Don't need any other as an all rounder.
I agree 100%. Got a Gen1 from 2004 and a Gen2 from 2013, both in Germany. Both are so dependable and reliable. They are like good friends who don’t let you down and whose company you enjoy. Maintenance is very easy, and the somewhat cumbersome access to the air filter and spark plugs isn’t really that much of a headache. I also ride a Honda VFR800X Crozsrunner in Portugal where I mostly live, which is a bit more exciting, but the “feel good - easy riding” on my Wees is unmatched.
Agreed i have 2016 XT i bought for $5700 with 66000k on the clock in may 2023 . All i did was service it and check the fluids and rode from bris to cairns and the outback in june , so far zero problem's 12000k later
Handy little trick of hopping on using the foot pedal. Lots for potential buyers to consider in your video. I love the anti theft device on the back seat of the car! Lovely looking dog.
My son owned a 2013 same model same as yours and he regularly achieved seventy miles to the imperial gallon, that's near enough four point five litres. (UK) Brilliant bike so I've just bought one two weeks ago fresh out of the box and I'm achieving sixty eight point six miles to the gallon. I've now covered three hundred and Forty miles so it's not yet run in so I reckon it should remain around the same once it's loosened up. Great bike enjoying the journey. Agree with all you've said.
Dear sir You are fortunate to have such a incredible machine I am inspired to bye one Just to hear from you NOW I own 250sx Thank you sir for your honest reality and reliability Virendradr
Interesting vid, maybe probably the best about the V-Strom 650 XT ever on RUclips. From owner and rider to others, not from some journalists to create content to earn money. As you said, the main reason to get this motorcycle is, it's not the best anywhere, some bikes may always better in comparisons in some areas, but the collection of what it does well, no other machine can compete with that, that's for sure . I also looked at the versys 650 and compared it, as well as the NC750X. It quickly became clear to me that it had to be the Suzuki. My new one is coming soon, or is at the dealer and is being pimped up with a protective bar, main stand and another seat, everything else comes from the accessories that the market has and what I will really need. thank you for a really successful video. greetings from Germany Appi
Never a truer word was spoken ! I agree with everything you have said abt the baby v strom . I thought I needed more grunt so I bought a gsa 1200 - - - more complex & more weight - - - i had the same model & colour as yours. Regardless of cost they are one of those bikes that add up to more than the sum of its parts.after a lot of sole searching, I think I will be going back to this generation of vstrom. A great review & overall critique of a very capable multi role motor cycle. Thanks keep up the good work !
I just bought one, 2013 model,30,000ks Has bash plate,top box, center stand , heated hand grips and bark busters,driving lights😁 $1800 in accessories and I got the bike for $1200 unregistered ....Woohoo😀 Great review,Thanks
I had an African twin, it was a heavy beast to pick up. Small gas tank and could not track well. So I'm riding a vstrom 650 xt now days, great bike for the truly adventure type of riders !
I'm about to go open license and the Gen 2 Strom is at the top of the list for all the reasons you have pointed out. I've never ridden one, but imagine I will love it from the get go. V twins are unique....started on a Honda VT250 many years ago...long story, let the license lapse, had to start over. Thanks for the vid, great info.
I bought one of these bikes after watching your review and I still have it I love this little thing and it has given me know problems whatsoever and I'm not easy on it at times but it's just eats it up and keeps going thanks for the review that's why I bought it.💯👍
I own a 2008 VStrom 650 (1st Gen?) that I bought new. The only issue I’ve had with mine all these years is a flakey ABS unit, that I decided to just live with, replacement costing more than the value of the bike. Now getting older, 68, with more interest in doing light off-road and BDRs, and cognizant that the VStrom was becoming a hand-full for me off-road. Just purchased a Tuareg 660. Don’t know much about the new Suzuki DE800, but consider the 650 VStrom to be an amazing bike, great value, and would recommend to everyone without qualification.
I've owned a few bikes over the years, and I have fond memories of the 2006 Gen 1 V-strom 650 that I purchased new back then. Yes you know the one, the old style, some might say butt ugly model. Well it was never gonna win any styling awards, but when you got on it and rode you simply forgot about all that as it was such a sweetie. It had great road manners, and was happy to sit on the highway all day touring, did it with ease. I lived in Cairns at this time and regularly travelled from Cairns down to Townsville and the Strom just ate the miles with no fuss. Without question the engine on this bike is the standout, as you say, look after it and it will look after you. I racked up 75 thousand kays on my Strom, it ran like a top. Sold it in 2011 for about 4 grand from memory. That blokes probably still got it. Which brings me to my point, I agree with everything you say on this bike. And I think this model (your model) indeed does look better than the beaky ibises that came after it. (Why would u buy a beak and install it on the fine lines of this model, ppl do it....I know, they need counselling) As for off road, I came from a dirt bike to my Strom so I of course took it on dirt many times. There's no secret here, the bike will do dirt roads easily, as long as you're aware of its limitations. One substance you do not want to meet on this bike is sand (you have been warned). Public dirt roads are usually pretty well maintained, a breeze on the Strom. I've taken it on single track but that was just to test the bikes limitations, and I found them, it can be done, but hey why would you want to. Turning around a 215kg bike when you hit a dead end is not fun. For its intended purpose, and a little beyond that, I loved my Strom. If i was doing a lap of Oz and wanted a reliable cheap bike to do it on, I'd buy a used one in a heartbeat.
Very good review, I just bought a 2007 V Strom as a second "Beater Bike" and after one ride I have done every upgrade I can think of to enhance the ride even more. The ease of the ride is surprising and I was going to do an Iron Butt ride with my 21 Road Glide but I'm thinking I will use the V Strom instead. The only detraction I saw was it had too low gearing for Interstate riding, to fix this I went up a tooth on the drive sprocket and this was great but I wanted slightly higher gearing so I have installed a 45 tooth on the rear, although untested I believe i will be in the desired RPM range now for the riding I will be doing. These changes have removed that jerky 1st gear cornering and created a nice linear smooth acceleration in and out of slow corners and smooth running on the slabs. This bike is a great platform for whatever your riding preferences are. Again thanks for the review, it was engaging and informative .............................................................JB..
i've had my 09 650 for about 5 years and have put about 40k on it and long distance rides in the US. it is so good at everything. not perfect, but good. wish mine had the modern traction stuff, or even ABS but mine does fine.
I have a 2006 model. Stator and rectifier fried at 8k miles and since good upgraded replacements it’s been reliable and tough. Standard suspension is great, really plush. Adequate power and overtaking punch and good economy. Fitted heated grips and taller screen plus hand protectors. Excellent handling and road manners. Love riding it, really comfortable seat and riding position. It’s not as sophisticated or powerful as my r1200 boxer but just as versatile and good to ride.
Yep, I am on the cusp of buying another one, a jump from gen 1 to 3. It’s very difficult to find a comparison, the cb 500x is kinda there, but also way different. As another commenter pointed out, the T7 is closeish. At the end of the day accept the wee’s nature, characteristics, magical powers, and limitations, and you will be a very happy rider-owner.
man, I needed this video. I am about to become a moto driver. Looking at the first one, I think this is a good choice. I am 1.83cm and 70kg, hope it's enough to handle this toy. thanks for the video.
I believe that the third generation added relevant features (ABS, traction control), improvements in connectors and their sealing, improvements in the engine that became more efficient. ABS and Traction Control are welcome items and are already very mature on the market. The remaining changes are enhancements to certain intents.
Best bang for buck bike made period !!! I purchased mine new in 2013 and have 55000 trouble free k's on it now . I have enjoyed riding my Strom in all kinds of weather and from days in the twisties to touring for a week . ( covid cancelled several plans ) . Easily kitted out similar to your bike with an awesome scorpion pipe that makes a lovely note. I ride with different mates that are all on more powerful bikes but I have never been disappointed with the power output . They have the torque range that is perfect for most riding and will rev up responsively when the pace picks up. I always said that if Suzuki made this bike in an 800 and had stronger brakes then that would be the perfect bike for me. Well they have now, and even though a Vstrom will never win a beauty concert I have a decision to make . The decision is do I keep my 2013 650 and add the 800 RE or sell to another person to enjoy. On second thoughts I think I will Keep the 650 too. 500kms a tank on a trip can't be beat. Great review and I enjoyed the similar thoughts. Ride Safe.
I've got a 2018 vstrom xt and it's the best motorcycle I've ever owned. I get home after long travels, vic high country interstate 2 up. The engine and motorcycle does everything.
I had a 2012 V650 a few years ago, went through a few other bikes, and looking forward to getting a spoke wheel 2015 adventure model in two days with 8,000 (12,000km) miles on it. Looking forward to going back to the basics. Plan on having it a week put new tires and a few things and ride SW America on it. It will be my commuter to work after that.
2016 650XA armoured for some off-road, ridden since '17, coming from sport-tourer. It can go nearly anywhere (rider dependant!), but for trails and a bit more rock and roll a lighter dual-sport with 21", clearance and proper suspension would be better. And if you gooch things in water and need to spirt the plugs... not much fun to do in the woods. With block pattern tires of your choice and some better pegs and set up you can crawl over rocks, gravel and dirt with ease. My longest tour day was 11.5 hrs and it involved all types of road surface and from day to night, sun to rain. I love my Strom. Do it all, easy to work on in your own garage and bullet proof reliability.
Two years ago, I bought an 06 with 37k kilometers on it. The bike I sold when I bought the DL was an 2002 SV650 naked. Essentially I traded some HP for comfort and fuel injection. Side note, you can buy a complete set of 70/30 Shinko tires for $200 US. Economy bike for sure!
What an amazing camera you got. Can't think of any mc tyber that beats that. Done both svc's manuals for the V-Strom and the sv 650. The V-Strom is much easier to read and for me to comprend. I will seach for a V-Strom between 2015-2017 with a milage between 24k to 31k. T😃hanks to you it's no brainer :)
@FlyNoWorkL8R. Don’t stress too much about the amount of km the bike has done. More important to go for a bike that has been well looked after and maintained. If the bike has been well maintained and serviced, the bike will run forever with no problems Very important to have a service history, for example I change my oil every 6,000 km. Also important to know if the valve clearances have been checked and are in specification. I checked my 2017 model Strom at 54,00 km. I changed 7 out of the 8 valve shims to get it into the middle of the specification. Changing valve shims is a BIG job but very important. I did my own work, but I think it would cost over $1,000 if a dealer changed the shims. The hardest part of the job is reinstalling the cam chain tensioners, it is a real PITA. Good luck finding the right bike. You won’t go wrong with a well looked after VStrom 650.
I have a 2009 vstrom 650. It is set up for Adventure with hard cases, crash protection and all that. I changed front and rear springs to Race Tech, National Cycle vstream windshield, Akropovich exhaust, braided brake lines etc. This bike can take you everywhere a street bike can go and then some. Offroad? sure just no huge jumps or massive ruts. Carve the canyons/mountains? YOU BET IT WILL!! I ride the Appalachian Mountains and it just eats up the turns, switchbacks, hairpins, rough pavement...it handles them so well it's not even funny. I think the 19 front wheel plays heavily into this over your regular 17. 2 up riding up Pikes Peak. sure no problem. I rode this bike fully loaded 2 up in the Colorado Rockies and only barely noticed it coming close to it's power limit on the higher speeds. Problems? yes i have had to replace stator and water pump gaskets due to an oil leak and clutches once. That is not much to replace for 60k miles of asphalt and dirt kicking fun! These are solid bikes that are well worth investing in. There isn't another Adventure bike that has this level of performance, dependability, capability and fun in it's price range.
To put it into proper perspective, my 2013 DL650 Adventure model makes around 68 horsepower. My first street bike, a 1971 Kawasaki 500 Mach III 2-stroke Triple made only 60, and nobody ever accused that bike of being slow. Furthermore, the ‘Strom does it pretty much all through the rev range, where the Kawasaki made its peak HP only in a very narrow band in the upper rev range. I love my ‘Strom, and I do not want for more power.
Great video, very informative, I've been seriously considering replacing my Buell XB1200X with the V-Strom because I'm planning an international move and I can't bring my Buell. My Buell is my opinion one of the most utilitarian motorcycles I've ever ridden and I've been licensed sine 1967. I wonder if you would mind sharing what aftermarket accessories you have installed on your bike, it looks like what I'm looking for? Thanks for the video Cheers!
Just one more point that I've forgotten to mention is that here in the UK there are hundreds of GS's, Africa twins all kitted out for the long way round, Charlie Borman and his mate, but never go anywhere. I'm not knocking them at all, it's the look of the bike they're going for. Cheers again.
Thank you so much for your excellent review. I am going to be "looking" at a well sorted out 2009 on Wednesday here in the States. "Looking" of course will be "Buying" 🤑😎 if the V-Strom is everything people say it is. Was originally looking at an SV-650, but like the practicality of the V-Strom a bit more.
I've owned more bikes than I can recall. I have a 2012 Strom 650 and it is a gem. I'll never sell it. I had a problem with the ABS. The rear brake seized and couldn't be applied. I could stand on the brake lever and it wouldl't budge. I bought a salvage ABS module and all seemed good. Then one day I had to panic brake when some dork pulled out in front. My rear brake locked up and wouldn't release. I nearly wrecked. Nowadays I have the rear brake connected straight to the rear master cylinder.
Dude, I own a 09 abs 650, upgraded the suspension it's an excellent for most things. Sufficient power, which comes on in a very linear fashion, incredibly comfortabl, excellent adventure tourer and commuter. Among the best value for money bikes you can get today. I made the mistake of taking the 800 de for a test ride today, might be selling mine. Someone will be getting a bargain.
Awesome run down on a great bike. I clicked on your video in particular because I saw a gold one, exactly like I bought in 2013! I was kind of hoping it was my old one since I haven't (till now) even see another gold one. Mine had the ABS but I don't remember any traction control. I did really love and appreciate it as a really nice, mostly road going bike that had a very good seating position, a SWEEEET engine, especially with the Two Brothers Racing exhaust and carbon muffler, which BTW, removes a surprisingly heavy stock system, seriously, I've still got the stock exhaust and that muffler is ridiculously heavy. I'm in SE Queensland BTW. I kept it for about 2 years and clocked up about 35,000ks in that time. The ONLY reason I regretfully got rid of it was because I went for a test ride on the then new BMW S 1,000 R and HAD to have one. I tried to do the DL justice and swap from 1 to the other each day but, I kept feeling disappointed each time on the DL simply because it didn't snap through twisties like the BMW, it (naturally compared to 200kg with 165 hp) didn't come close to the power or throttle response and it also did pretty much the same job. I knew I was feeling in a way completely unfair to what really was a very nice and capable bike so, having grown up on the dirt it just seemed logical to trade it on a more dirt oriented bike so I got a DRZ 400 which I still have to this day. The Beamer and I nearly died together when while cruising at highway speed an 🤬just launched out in front of me when about 20 feet from him, that put me in intensive care in an induced coma for 8 days while they waited for me to go bye bye but I somehow didn't, despite some very serious internal injuries. NOW I wish so much I still had the DL 650. I have considered the new one but, those big twin lights up front, apart from giving good light should be hard to miss and now they've got a stupid little thing that'll probably make a lot of drivers thing you're much further away than you are and maybe wind up the same as I did on that awesome BMW. If you're curious there's just 1 video of my own on my channel, thumbnail of the bike and video of a 6 and a bit minute ride up the mountains here. You may like it simply because it's one exactly the same color as yours there. Congratulations on keeping yours looking so pristine too, that looks fantastic for a 10 year old bike. Oh yeah, you might enjoy my video for the sound of that system too, even though the microphone doesn't do it justice, you'll get an idea. It's taken from on top of a tank bag I had on it which actually helped sort of soften the bumps and shakes a bit. Watching here and green with envy, they honestly are a very nice and reliable bike.
@@landshark9603 Thanks mate. I've got a few vids, about 5 or 6 that are ones other people wanted shared around for informational purposes but, you'll immediately recognise my own one of MY DL 650 because it's EXACTLY the same as his here, just with a tank bag (where the GoPro was mounted on top of) and a proper, light and lovely sounding exhaust on the side you're looking at in the thumbnail. Obviously the video was taken before I got wiped out on the BMW insanity machine lol. I do still ride, just nowhere near as much because I've got no ligaments in my left knee now and because of the internal injuries I'm in too much pain by 100 ks to keep going now. Enjoy the ride along through a great little bike stop town at the start then up a nice fun, steep mountain climb back road.
Hi, Thanks for the video, and all the info, so good for someone like me. I would like to know if you have made that video that tells us how you fixed the problem of the seat pushing you forward, causeing some very personal greif. I have just purchased a 2007 model and have the same thing going on. Maybe a link to it.
That's hard case seeing that particular bike, I don't think I've ever seen one of the same model like yours kitted out almost identically to my one! Just wondering, what brand is your centre stand? When I bought my bike I chucked on the same Givi bash plate but at the time I was told there weren't any centre stands compatible with it at that point in time. I sorely miss having a centre stand and I'd be keen on getting one if there is now a solution. Cheers!
I have the exact same bike.. 124,500 kms...they say they do all things good...but the exceptional part of it is its reliability. best economy 556kms out of a tank..28kms / lit. fine the givi.windsheild I'd tops on it...however it takes 2 to 3 kms /lit off economy..avg..economy 22--25 kms/ lit. I have k&N air filter.. and a ignition retarder to give it boast in the low end.. Now it's one poor point... and it only applies to taller riders. seat height in relation to foot pegs..seen some have lowered pegs... other than that quite a well made exceptional reliable... easy to bike..great handling quality bike. Gerry
Hi mate, I ride a 2014 DL 650 she is very good on fuel ether, 3,5 Liter per 100 km is absolutely possible. How often did you have checked or adjusted the valves on your V-strom?
@@vityaz5063 my 2016 DL650 is 76,000km checked valves just last week. 4 exhausts valves slightly out of spec. I adjusted them. I get 350km per tank on average driving 120-130 kmh highways
That is about right. I never ride below 90km/hr on highway. My riding speed usually in between 120 to 130km/hr. The most I could get from the tank was 320 to 350 km
Lightweight. Nah. Easy to ride yeah. But you’re spot on. It’s extremely top heavy at low speed. I love your comment of ‘if you’ve got a missus with density’ …
As you rightly point out, it will never be a duel sport. If that’s what you want, and I am very empathetic to the idea because of the engine, start with the sv 650 and turn it into a scrambler. The bike starts with all the extraneous bits removed as standard. Add a bashplate, upgrade rear shock and change the forks and hey presto 😅, better outcome than starting with the VStrom.
Hi Land Shark, that last comment went before I was finished, so I will continue. Or the ability to transfer weight with the throttle or brakes, provided you not in deep sand😮 which can be stressful at times. The 60 odd hp and delivery is more than you ever need on road or offroad and the connection between the right wrist and the rear contact patch is, well magic. The only Vstrom I ever bought new was the first of the second gen 1000's. My four first gen. 650's have between 28K and 367K travelled, (not all my kms) are in various forms of modification to suit offroad to long road trips. They are just best do it all motorcycles with long term ownership being built on its durability. I wonder if Suzuki will ever redevelop a mid size 90 degree L twin again, or it's gone😢.
Love my 2015 dl big block tires and a skid plate . Michigan back roads have never been so fun! Then put some street shoes on her and road across the country.its the bike I never knew I always wanted 😂
How does it go against our rural roads, pothole fill on, pothole fill? My cruiser just doesn't cut it and doubt a suspension upgrade will fix the spine crunch....
On my second 650 xt 1st 2017 now on 2022 love it done some mods fat bar heated grips crash bars givi luggage givi screen and some other bits n bobs most comfortable bike I’ve owned good mpg as you say it’s not bril at any one thing but dose every thing well can’t see me changing for a long time
I own the same model and colour. Very easy bike to ride and lots of fun in the twisties. Why no screen on the bike at the beginning of the video. Do you ride it like that? Having owned over 20 bikes I find the Givi Airflow probably the best screen I've had on any bike. 😀
Hi Land Shark, The DL 650 is a personal favourite on mine. The only problem I've got is which one of the 4 of them do I choose today, or should I just take the DL 1000a (2014) just for slightly different strom experience? The thing I like the most is front to rear balance and the ability to change it quickly with you riding position
I have a 2014 with 14,000km on it. I really want a Triumph 900 GT Pro. But I just can’t let go of the Strom. I don’t find the Strom very comfortable as the foot pegs are way too high. It’s hard finding a comfortable bike when you own a Victory Vision. That’s a comfortable bike.
I'm considering getting a V Strom. My current ride is a BMW r1100rt. It's too heavy for me. I'm 76. Have you ridden an RT? Do you think the V Strom would make a significant difference? My RT weighs about 650 lbs. Cheers!!
I have this bike. I've raised the handlebars, put wider bars, changed out the pegs for adv pegs, givi windscreen, givi bashplate, shad topboxes and panniers, extra led lights,fork braces, barkbusters, etc Tell me, can this bike do the sort of riding Itchy Boots does in America, Africa and India?
Got the gen2 2016 dl650 for a year now, it's my first bike and enjoyed it so far, my fuel consumption is 4.3L/100km , the confort is great, the things I dislike are the clutch lever is a bit hard compared to other bike (might change the cable) and the engine is too linear and not so fun but it's not a sport bike so I guess it's ok. No problems so far and I do my own maintenance
I agree I've had mine since 2014 and definitely just love it,, I'm trying to remember if anyone knows I would appreciate it but there is a set of brake shoes that all automotive shops have that will fit on a 2013 to 2017 or something VStrom,, I bought a set about 6 years ago but I cannot remember what I ordered, and I live in the southeast of Kentucky and the nearest Suzuki shop is probably $150 mi away,, anyhow if anyone reads this and knows I would appreciate the info
Just done 18000kms tour around Europe Turkey Georgia and Armenia on my 2014 2nd gen... Never missed a beat only slight issue I had was I got a slow puncture on the front, it turns out it was internal corrosion, mechanic said it was due to a environmental type paint that they now used... I guess it starts to flake
Own DL650 2007 taken her around OZ 2up few times never had a problem still just stock ungaurded and have taken her Outback the only thing need oil the chain. 😊
LAND SHARK or anyone in the comments, I need some advice. 2007 V-Strom, fully kitted up for touring, panniers, drop protection, the lot, regularly serviced with 70k on the clock. They want $5k Oz for it. Yeah or nah, will be my first bike. Until this one came up I had been planning on a late model KLR650 for twice the price. Just want to get out and explore the South Island of NZ, mostly highway, with a bit of gravel.
Hello strom rider's From Sydney Australia I have a gen 3 vstrom 650xt which I bought oct 22 agree with everything you say the best bike don't want to change anything till warranty finish can someone give me some sites where i can get aftermarket parts for my strom will be apprishiated. Ps: the vstrom does everything it suppose to do and nothing else and does it better than more expensive one's. To all the rider's out there ride safe an enjoy
IF YOU HIT ANY MUD, there is a good chance your front end locks up against the fender and you will fly over the handlebars. be sure to not overestimate the capability of this bike. can do gravel but no trails. Get a drz400 or dr650 if you need more of that capability
Gen 1 is best 🙂 specifically the pre ABS 650. 18 years on it still did a 3000 mile tour through 7 countries including Switzerland Austria and Germany this year. footage is on my channel if you are interested 🙂 theres a 15 year owners review and more DL650 vids all over the channel 🙂 good luck with the channel fellow #Stromtrekkers #RideFree
I agree with most points. I owned that version you have, now I have the latest version. Its just that the older version is so ugly in my opinion :) The innocent fairy looking headlights, the shiny plastic, the round and curvy design... dont go with the spirit of the bike ever. First model was loved because of its strong angular design. They also did a good job in the current version but that one in the middle was a poor design experiment.
No, i donot agree, bought a 2021 with 4600 km in april 2022 and sold it with 63000 km today, no issues at all, except a ball bearing on the rear pinion hub. I shall get another one straight way…
The problem is the bike is an amazing tool, but it depends on your purpose. If you want fun, the Vstrom is not the bike to get. I own a V-Strom as a beginner rider but eventually i will get something else for fun. As reliability and a tool to depend on for a quality ride, ya no doubt.. Vstrom all the way.
What's your idea of "fun"? I enjoy going from dirt to road, to dirt and always having it start, as FUN! Is it a racing bike? Nope, but it corners pretty well, does a lil of everything, doesn't break the bank and always makes it home! That's fun for m!
@@unsinkablemb Yep, totally agree. I have had bikes that were more of a blast on the road, others that were fun but dangerous and some great dirt bikes too but, that same model DL 650 and even color as the one here would be the best all rounder and I only ever felt 'I' wasn't doing it justice was when I bought another lighter bike with 165 hp but, man I wish I'd kept that V Strom. They absolutely ARE fun and so versatile.
I have tons of fun on mine in the twisties...what bike are you saying is more fun? yeah, it is no wheelie machine but it is still fun. but yes, if you need wheelie power to have fun, this isn't it
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I agree with everything you said. I purchased a 2017 model 650 XT in April 2018.
It has currently done 55,000 km, without a single problem. I do my own maintenance.
At 54,000 km I did my first valve clearance check. Only one intake valve was in center of spec. The other 7 valves were at the very low end of the specification.
I put in thinner shims to put all valves in the center of the specification. Checking valve clearances is easy, however changing shims is a lot more difficult on a 650 because putting the cam chain tensioners back in is a real. PITA.
There is a great tutorial on line which is extremely helpful and very thorough.
If anyone wants to know how to access it reply to me.
I am 80 early next year, so if I can do it so can you and save yourself a ton of money.
I've been riding for over 50 years and have owned over 40 Japanese bikes, {I own 4 right now), and the 2nd gen DL650 is one of my all time favorites, especially as I am nearing retirement and must watch my spending. Anyone who wants to ride, but thinks they probably can't afford a good, capable bike, should check them out. Low mileage, garage kept examples are still out there for great prices, and they are often farkled to the max.
With a decent bash plate to protect the header and oil filter from flying debris, they can do just about anything but hardcore off-roading, as they simply do not have the necessary ground clearance and long-travel suspension for that. They are super dependable and capable, street/forest road bikes however, and if you are slow and careful, they do have just enough true off-road capability to get you to that perfect, secluded campsite just beyond the treeline.
They absolutely excel at commuting, weekend exploring, and backcountry touring however. They are great on any sort of road, from interstate highways to the poorest asphalt, and even on gravel and dirt roads and beyond. To put it another way, as long as it is called a "road", you should be good to go as long as you adjust your speed as the conditions dictate.
Good luck, and thanks for the vid. I never get tired of V-Strom stuff. 👍
I have bought my V-Strom 650 new in 2015.
I have clocked 130.000 km, first of all touring but also driving gravel roads and also sporty, just doing maintenance and service without any single problem.
Dealers who have different brands confirm this well-known reliability compared to other brands as well as lots of owner in our bike community also confirm and recognize every single word you said.
I personally test rided a lot of other adv bikes thinking to get a better one but I was always missing things on these other bikes, which I do not want to miss. - So I was always happy to drive home with my V-Strom recognizing, I have the best of all in total.
I will not change until a better bike comes up. So, I may never change.
Thanks for this very true hymne to the best bike considering everything.
All the best to you all ...
Werner
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After 13 years and nearly 200.000 km, I am still loving you.
Hi there LS, last week I bought a 1 owner from nearly new, 31,000 kms V-strom 650 and I LOVE it ! It is surprisingly comfortable more than quick enough for me with roll-on power everywhere throughout the rev range, consumption on a trip I just finished today (750 kms roughly) of about 4.2 ltrs/100 kms. We travelled in all sorts of weather and she felt safe, great fun and a 'proper' bike. Can't wait to get out and do more.
I own a 2004 Wee...It surprises me that it stil runs without any issues... almost 20 years old... damn
I bought a 1st gen 650 for a trip to Alaska; did the 7500 mile trip with no worries at all, and found I liked the bike so much I bought a 2013 and am still riding it. It is what I call a "friendly" bike. The power delivery, the handling are all comfortable. Just a great all arounder with a bulletproof powertrain. A little buzzy at 80 mph, bug nonetheless a great tourer. I also have a Honda ST1300, and find myself favoring the Vstrom for all but really long trips. Ride it every day; really comfortable for this 75 yr old rider.
I own a gen 1 650. I did own a brand new a gem 2 650 when they first came out same as yours in fox orange. I also owned a gen 2 1000. The 650 is by far the best. All the points you bring up are very true. I purchased the Gen 1 purely as an enthusiast to see, feel and experience where it all started. I have not regretted it. It’s definitely a keeper and my favourite of all time bike. I’ve owned over 40 bikes to experience different genres. The 3 actual best bikes for a 3 bike garage to me is a V strom 650, Ninja 400 and a WR250R. Now I’ve had way more exotic bikes and much more powerful. The smaller bikes are cheaper to insurance, cheaper tyres, rego and maintenance. Cheap to purchase. They don’t get as hot. All three bikes a much more fun in twisties. Great for filtering. Perfect amount of power for the street. Light weight to move around the garage. Amazing on fuel. Super reliable. I could go on. You could say the T7 is the perfect bike but it’s doesn’t replace any of the 3. But probably the best bike for a 1 bike owner.
I've owned 2 3rd gen. DL650's. 50k plus miles and never had an electronics problem, or anything else.These bikes have been anvil tough. I had a 1200 GS and that turd was full of gizmos that failed. Gen 2 DL's are great bikes, but I prefer the gen. 3 looks. They haven't changed much, but I love this bike. Have a Z900, Z900RS and a new SV 650, and in the end I'd keep this over all of them. Maybe not the latest and greatest, but I'm proud to ride one.
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Many bikes, and the sv, the sister to the wee. Can I ask why? And why you prefer to wee. I have a gen 1 wee and am considering getting a gen 3 sv, hence my interest. Thanks in advance.
@@DavidKD2050 Sorry for late response. The DL650 is so useful compared to the others. They're all fun, but when I want to head out on a trip, I reach for the DL. And, if you're considering an SV, they're great. Excellent brakes, sound, handling and looks. I took it on a 1000 mile trip lately and even the seat was pretty comfortable. Buy one before they stop production. Cheers.
Have the same model as yours now for 9 years, the longest I’ve owned any bike. In 2018/9 I rode it two up around the world. No reliability issues at all in 43,000 miles. Very comfy, over 65mpg😂
Hello mate, I'm leaving in 3 weeks to do a 2up trip in a gen 2, first part the trip is gonna be 9 months. Its largely stock but I'm just about to beef up the suspension as we are loading it up as we are camping the whole time. What did you change on you bike? Have any tips or advice generally?
@@lugholemustang seats and bigger windscreen, foot boards
"Very comfy, over 65mpg" - Imperial or US?
Bought new 10 years ago and still happy. With risers, the V-Strom is even more comfortable
Greetings from The Netherlands
Hi there. I'm looking at risers or touring handle bars. Did you have any issues with cable length?
@@landshark9603 probably a bit late to view your question, however I put on Zeta risers on my 650. I was worried about the cables being long enough but a mate who had them assured me that the cables are ok.
The cables were just long enough and I have never had a problem. My Zeta risers lifted the bar up and back. A lot more comfortable for me.
Purchased my 2017 with 8400 miles and Put 15,000 miles on it in the last yr. All Ive done is a valve adj and regular maintenance. With the exception of your hard bags I have the identical accessories. Oxford grip heat, airflow windscreen, givi crash bars, barkbusters etc. Just finished a 3600 mile loop with zero issues. I think I prefer the gen 3 but the color of yours compared to my white one looks nice. One thing I find interesting is comments out there on the vstrom being ugly. I get comments all the time by people saying how much they like my bike. Eyes of the beholder as they say. Things were slim pickings a yr ago and I was not looking for a vstrom. Just stumbled on one at a dealer. Bought used for the accessories and did not have to pay freight and setup. Everyday it makes me realize it does everything I need.
I'm picking up a 2009 model with low km this weekend. Getting back into riding after a 20 years hiatus and really looking forward riding around the NSW Far South Coast. Thanks for your review, it helped me make the decision to go with this bike.
I agree with you fully. We have 3 V Stroms in our family and we have climbed rocky mountain roads and rides through rivers a meter deep and then did 160kph on the highway. The V Strom does it all with ease. And the power is better than similar bikes of that age. Just an awesome bike. Don't need any other as an all rounder.
I agree 100%. Got a Gen1 from 2004 and a Gen2 from 2013, both in Germany. Both are so dependable and reliable. They are like good friends who don’t let you down and whose company you enjoy. Maintenance is very easy, and the somewhat cumbersome access to the air filter and spark plugs isn’t really that much of a headache.
I also ride a Honda VFR800X Crozsrunner in Portugal where I mostly live, which is a bit more exciting, but the “feel good - easy riding” on my Wees is unmatched.
Thanks for sharing mate.
Agreed i have 2016 XT i bought for $5700 with 66000k on the clock in may 2023 . All i did was service it and check the fluids and rode from bris to cairns and the outback in june , so far zero problem's 12000k later
Handy little trick of hopping on using the foot pedal. Lots for potential buyers to consider in your video. I love the anti theft device on the back seat of the car! Lovely looking dog.
Cheers mate
My son owned a 2013 same model same as yours and he regularly achieved seventy miles to the imperial gallon, that's near enough four point five litres. (UK)
Brilliant bike so I've just bought one two weeks ago fresh out of the box and I'm achieving sixty eight point six miles to the gallon. I've now covered three hundred and Forty miles so it's not yet run in so I reckon it should remain around the same once it's loosened up.
Great bike enjoying the journey. Agree with all you've said.
Dear sir
You are fortunate to have such a incredible machine
I am inspired to bye one Just to hear from you
NOW I own 250sx
Thank you sir for your honest reality and reliability
Virendradr
Interesting vid, maybe probably the best about the V-Strom 650 XT ever on RUclips.
From owner and rider to others, not from some journalists to create content to earn money.
As you said, the main reason to get this motorcycle is, it's not the best anywhere, some bikes may always better in comparisons in some areas, but the collection of what it does well, no other machine can compete with that, that's for sure .
I also looked at the versys 650 and compared it, as well as the NC750X.
It quickly became clear to me that it had to be the Suzuki.
My new one is coming soon, or is at the dealer and is being pimped up with a protective bar, main stand and another seat, everything else comes from the accessories that the market has and what I will really need.
thank you for a really successful video.
greetings from Germany
Appi
Never a truer word was spoken ! I agree with everything you have said abt the baby v strom . I thought I needed more grunt so I bought a gsa 1200 - - - more complex & more weight - - - i had the same model & colour as yours. Regardless of cost they are one of those bikes that add up to more than the sum of its parts.after a lot of sole searching, I think I will be going back to this generation of vstrom. A great review & overall critique of a very capable multi role motor cycle.
Thanks keep up the good work !
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I just bought one, 2013 model,30,000ks
Has bash plate,top box, center stand , heated hand grips and bark busters,driving lights😁
$1800 in accessories and I got the bike for $1200 unregistered ....Woohoo😀
Great review,Thanks
I had an African twin, it was a heavy beast to pick up. Small gas tank and could not track well. So I'm riding a vstrom 650 xt now days, great bike for the truly adventure type of riders !
I'm about to go open license and the Gen 2 Strom is at the top of the list for all the reasons you have pointed out. I've never ridden one, but imagine I will love it from the get go. V twins are unique....started on a Honda VT250 many years ago...long story, let the license lapse, had to start over. Thanks for the vid, great info.
I bought one of these bikes after watching your review and I still have it I love this little thing and it has given me know problems whatsoever and I'm not easy on it at times but it's just eats it up and keeps going thanks for the review that's why I bought it.💯👍
I own a 2008 VStrom 650 (1st Gen?) that I bought new. The only issue I’ve had with mine all these years is a flakey ABS unit, that I decided to just live with, replacement costing more than the value of the bike. Now getting older, 68, with more interest in doing light off-road and BDRs, and cognizant that the VStrom was becoming a hand-full for me off-road. Just purchased a Tuareg 660. Don’t know much about the new Suzuki DE800, but consider the 650 VStrom to be an amazing bike, great value, and would recommend to everyone without qualification.
Recently sold my Transalp 650, & purchased VStrom 650
Wow
Amazing fun allround bike.
I've owned a few bikes over the years, and I have fond memories of the 2006 Gen 1 V-strom 650 that I purchased new back then. Yes you know the one, the old style, some might say butt ugly model. Well it was never gonna win any styling awards, but when you got on it and rode you simply forgot about all that as it was such a sweetie. It had great road manners, and was happy to sit on the highway all day touring, did it with ease. I lived in Cairns at this time and regularly travelled from Cairns down to Townsville and the Strom just ate the miles with no fuss. Without question the engine on this bike is the standout, as you say, look after it and it will look after you. I racked up 75 thousand kays on my Strom, it ran like a top. Sold it in 2011 for about 4 grand from memory. That blokes probably still got it. Which brings me to my point, I agree with everything you say on this bike. And I think this model (your model) indeed does look better than the beaky ibises that came after it. (Why would u buy a beak and install it on the fine lines of this model, ppl do it....I know, they need counselling) As for off road, I came from a dirt bike to my Strom so I of course took it on dirt many times. There's no secret here, the bike will do dirt roads easily, as long as you're aware of its limitations. One substance you do not want to meet on this bike is sand (you have been warned). Public dirt roads are usually pretty well maintained, a breeze on the Strom. I've taken it on single track but that was just to test the bikes limitations, and I found them, it can be done, but hey why would you want to. Turning around a 215kg bike when you hit a dead end is not fun. For its intended purpose, and a little beyond that, I loved my Strom. If i was doing a lap of Oz and wanted a reliable cheap bike to do it on, I'd buy a used one in a heartbeat.
Very good review, I just bought a 2007 V Strom as a second "Beater Bike" and after one ride I have done every upgrade I can think of to enhance the ride even more. The ease of the ride is surprising and I was going to do an Iron Butt ride with my 21 Road Glide but I'm thinking I will use the V Strom instead. The only detraction I saw was it had too low gearing for Interstate riding, to fix this I went up a tooth on the drive sprocket and this was great but I wanted slightly higher gearing so I have installed a 45 tooth on the rear, although untested I believe i will be in the desired RPM range now for the riding I will be doing. These changes have removed that jerky 1st gear cornering and created a nice linear smooth acceleration in and out of slow corners and smooth running on the slabs. This bike is a great platform for whatever your riding preferences are. Again thanks for the review, it was engaging and informative .............................................................JB..
I think you've just convinced me to get a used gen 2 next year as my first 'big' bike!
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i've had my 09 650 for about 5 years and have put about 40k on it and long distance rides in the US. it is so good at everything. not perfect, but good. wish mine had the modern traction stuff, or even ABS but mine does fine.
I have a 2006 model. Stator and rectifier fried at 8k miles and since good upgraded replacements it’s been reliable and tough. Standard suspension is great, really plush. Adequate power and overtaking punch and good economy. Fitted heated grips and taller screen plus hand protectors. Excellent handling and road manners. Love riding it, really comfortable seat and riding position. It’s not as sophisticated or powerful as my r1200 boxer but just as versatile and good to ride.
Yep, I am on the cusp of buying another one, a jump from gen 1 to 3. It’s very difficult to find a comparison, the cb 500x is kinda there, but also way different. As another commenter pointed out, the T7 is closeish. At the end of the day accept the wee’s nature, characteristics, magical powers, and limitations, and you will be a very happy rider-owner.
man, I needed this video. I am about to become a moto driver. Looking at the first one, I think this is a good choice. I am 1.83cm and 70kg, hope it's enough to handle this toy. thanks for the video.
Beautiful bike, love the color.
I believe that the third generation added relevant features (ABS, traction control), improvements in connectors and their sealing, improvements in the engine that became more efficient. ABS and Traction Control are welcome items and are already very mature on the market. The remaining changes are enhancements to certain intents.
I have a 2012 version, also 2nd generation. Same color actually and I love this bike. It's affordable, it's fun, I can ride it for days.
Best bang for buck bike made period !!! I purchased mine new in 2013 and have 55000 trouble free k's on it now . I have enjoyed riding my Strom in all kinds of weather and from days in the twisties to touring for a week . ( covid cancelled several plans ) . Easily kitted out similar to your bike with an awesome scorpion pipe that makes a lovely note. I ride with different mates that are all on more powerful bikes but I have never been disappointed with the power output . They have the torque range that is perfect for most riding and will rev up responsively when the pace picks up. I always said that if Suzuki made this bike in an 800 and had stronger brakes then that would be the perfect bike for me. Well they have now, and even though a Vstrom will never win a beauty concert I have a decision to make . The decision is do I keep my 2013 650 and add the 800 RE or sell to another person to enjoy. On second thoughts I think I will Keep the 650 too. 500kms a tank on a trip can't be beat. Great review and I enjoyed the similar thoughts. Ride Safe.
bloody great review bud,im def getting one as a second bike great all rounder
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I've got a 2018 vstrom xt and it's the best motorcycle I've ever owned. I get home after long travels, vic high country interstate 2 up. The engine and motorcycle does everything.
I had a 2012 V650 a few years ago, went through a few other bikes, and looking forward to getting a spoke wheel 2015 adventure model in two days with 8,000 (12,000km) miles on it. Looking forward to going back to the basics. Plan on having it a week put new tires and a few things and ride SW America on it. It will be my commuter to work after that.
2016 650XA armoured for some off-road, ridden since '17, coming from sport-tourer. It can go nearly anywhere (rider dependant!), but for trails and a bit more rock and roll a lighter dual-sport with 21", clearance and proper suspension would be better. And if you gooch things in water and need to spirt the plugs... not much fun to do in the woods. With block pattern tires of your choice and some better pegs and set up you can crawl over rocks, gravel and dirt with ease. My longest tour day was 11.5 hrs and it involved all types of road surface and from day to night, sun to rain. I love my Strom. Do it all, easy to work on in your own garage and bullet proof reliability.
Two years ago, I bought an 06 with 37k kilometers on it. The bike I sold when I bought the DL was an 2002 SV650 naked. Essentially I traded some HP for comfort and fuel injection. Side note, you can buy a complete set of 70/30 Shinko tires for $200 US. Economy bike for sure!
What an amazing camera you got. Can't think of any mc tyber that beats that. Done both svc's manuals for the V-Strom and the sv 650. The V-Strom is much easier to read and for me to comprend. I will seach for a V-Strom between 2015-2017 with a milage between 24k to 31k. T😃hanks to you it's no brainer :)
@FlyNoWorkL8R. Don’t stress too much about the amount of km the bike has done.
More important to go for a bike that has been well looked after and maintained.
If the bike has been well maintained and serviced, the bike will run forever with no problems
Very important to have a service history, for example I change my oil every 6,000 km.
Also important to know if the valve clearances have been checked and are in specification.
I checked my 2017 model Strom at 54,00 km. I changed 7 out of the 8 valve shims to get it into the middle of the specification.
Changing valve shims is a BIG job but very important. I did my own work, but I think it would cost over $1,000 if a dealer changed the shims.
The hardest part of the job is reinstalling the cam chain tensioners, it is a real PITA.
Good luck finding the right bike. You won’t go wrong with a well looked after VStrom 650.
I have a 2009 vstrom 650. It is set up for Adventure with hard cases, crash protection and all that. I changed front and rear springs to Race Tech, National Cycle vstream windshield, Akropovich exhaust, braided brake lines etc. This bike can take you everywhere a street bike can go and then some. Offroad? sure just no huge jumps or massive ruts. Carve the canyons/mountains? YOU BET IT WILL!! I ride the Appalachian Mountains and it just eats up the turns, switchbacks, hairpins, rough pavement...it handles them so well it's not even funny. I think the 19 front wheel plays heavily into this over your regular 17.
2 up riding up Pikes Peak. sure no problem. I rode this bike fully loaded 2 up in the Colorado Rockies and only barely noticed it coming close to it's power limit on the higher speeds.
Problems? yes i have had to replace stator and water pump gaskets due to an oil leak and clutches once. That is not much to replace for 60k miles of asphalt and dirt kicking fun!
These are solid bikes that are well worth investing in. There isn't another Adventure bike that has this level of performance, dependability, capability and fun in it's price range.
To put it into proper perspective, my 2013 DL650 Adventure model makes around 68 horsepower. My first street bike, a 1971 Kawasaki 500 Mach III 2-stroke Triple made only 60, and nobody ever accused that bike of being slow. Furthermore, the ‘Strom does it pretty much all through the rev range, where the Kawasaki made its peak HP only in a very narrow band in the upper rev range. I love my ‘Strom, and I do not want for more power.
Great video, very informative, I've been seriously considering replacing my Buell XB1200X with the V-Strom because I'm planning an international move and I can't bring my Buell. My Buell is my opinion one of the most utilitarian motorcycles I've ever ridden and I've been licensed sine 1967. I wonder if you would mind sharing what aftermarket accessories you have installed on your bike, it looks like what I'm looking for? Thanks for the video Cheers!
Just one more point that I've forgotten to mention is that here in the UK there are hundreds of GS's, Africa twins all kitted out for the long way round, Charlie Borman and his mate, but never go anywhere. I'm not knocking them at all, it's the look of the bike they're going for.
Cheers again.
Thank you so much for your excellent review. I am going to be "looking" at a well sorted out 2009 on Wednesday here in the States. "Looking" of course will be "Buying" 🤑😎 if the V-Strom is everything people say it is. Was originally looking at an SV-650, but like the practicality of the V-Strom a bit more.
I've owned more bikes than I can recall. I have a 2012 Strom 650 and it is a gem. I'll never sell it.
I had a problem with the ABS. The rear brake seized and couldn't be applied. I could stand on the brake lever and it wouldl't budge. I bought a salvage ABS module and all seemed good. Then one day I had to panic brake when some dork pulled out in front. My rear brake locked up and wouldn't release. I nearly wrecked.
Nowadays I have the rear brake connected straight to the rear master cylinder.
Dude, I own a 09 abs 650, upgraded the suspension it's an excellent for most things. Sufficient power, which comes on in a very linear fashion, incredibly comfortabl, excellent adventure tourer and commuter. Among the best value for money bikes you can get today. I made the mistake of taking the 800 de for a test ride today, might be selling mine. Someone will be getting a bargain.
Awesome run down on a great bike. I clicked on your video in particular because I saw a gold one, exactly like I bought in 2013! I was kind of hoping it was my old one since I haven't (till now) even see another gold one. Mine had the ABS but I don't remember any traction control. I did really love and appreciate it as a really nice, mostly road going bike that had a very good seating position, a SWEEEET engine, especially with the Two Brothers Racing exhaust and carbon muffler, which BTW, removes a surprisingly heavy stock system, seriously, I've still got the stock exhaust and that muffler is ridiculously heavy.
I'm in SE Queensland BTW. I kept it for about 2 years and clocked up about 35,000ks in that time. The ONLY reason I regretfully got rid of it was because I went for a test ride on the then new BMW S 1,000 R and HAD to have one. I tried to do the DL justice and swap from 1 to the other each day but, I kept feeling disappointed each time on the DL simply because it didn't snap through twisties like the BMW, it (naturally compared to 200kg with 165 hp) didn't come close to the power or throttle response and it also did pretty much the same job. I knew I was feeling in a way completely unfair to what really was a very nice and capable bike so, having grown up on the dirt it just seemed logical to trade it on a more dirt oriented bike so I got a DRZ 400 which I still have to this day. The Beamer and I nearly died together when while cruising at highway speed an 🤬just launched out in front of me when about 20 feet from him, that put me in intensive care in an induced coma for 8 days while they waited for me to go bye bye but I somehow didn't, despite some very serious internal injuries. NOW I wish so much I still had the DL 650. I have considered the new one but, those big twin lights up front, apart from giving good light should be hard to miss and now they've got a stupid little thing that'll probably make a lot of drivers thing you're much further away than you are and maybe wind up the same as I did on that awesome BMW.
If you're curious there's just 1 video of my own on my channel, thumbnail of the bike and video of a 6 and a bit minute ride up the mountains here. You may like it simply because it's one exactly the same color as yours there. Congratulations on keeping yours looking so pristine too, that looks fantastic for a 10 year old bike.
Oh yeah, you might enjoy my video for the sound of that system too, even though the microphone doesn't do it justice, you'll get an idea. It's taken from on top of a tank bag I had on it which actually helped sort of soften the bumps and shakes a bit.
Watching here and green with envy, they honestly are a very nice and reliable bike.
What a story mate, glad you're ok. Great choice of bikes. I will checkout your channel. Thanks for watching and supporting the Channel.
@@landshark9603 Thanks mate. I've got a few vids, about 5 or 6 that are ones other people wanted shared around for informational purposes but, you'll immediately recognise my own one of MY DL 650 because it's EXACTLY the same as his here, just with a tank bag (where the GoPro was mounted on top of) and a proper, light and lovely sounding exhaust on the side you're looking at in the thumbnail. Obviously the video was taken before I got wiped out on the BMW insanity machine lol.
I do still ride, just nowhere near as much because I've got no ligaments in my left knee now and because of the internal injuries I'm in too much pain by 100 ks to keep going now. Enjoy the ride along through a great little bike stop town at the start then up a nice fun, steep mountain climb back road.
Hi, Thanks for the video, and all the info, so good for someone like me. I would like to know if you have made that video that tells us how you fixed the problem of the seat pushing you forward, causeing some very personal greif. I have just purchased a 2007 model and have the same thing going on. Maybe a link to it.
That's hard case seeing that particular bike, I don't think I've ever seen one of the same model like yours kitted out almost identically to my one!
Just wondering, what brand is your centre stand? When I bought my bike I chucked on the same Givi bash plate but at the time I was told there weren't any centre stands compatible with it at that point in time. I sorely miss having a centre stand and I'd be keen on getting one if there is now a solution. Cheers!
I have the exact same bike..
124,500 kms...they say they do all things good...but the exceptional part of it is its reliability.
best economy 556kms out of a tank..28kms / lit.
fine the givi.windsheild I'd tops on it...however it takes 2 to 3 kms /lit
off economy..avg..economy 22--25 kms/ lit.
I have k&N air filter..
and a ignition retarder to give it
boast in the low end..
Now it's one poor point...
and it only applies to taller riders.
seat height in relation to foot pegs..seen some have lowered pegs...
other than that quite a well made
exceptional reliable...
easy to bike..great handling
quality bike.
Gerry
Thanks for sharing mate. Lowered pegs are next on the list.Thanks for watching and supporting the Channel.
I have the same bike. There is no way you get that much milage.
Hi mate, I ride a 2014 DL 650 she is very good on fuel ether, 3,5 Liter per 100 km is absolutely possible. How often did you have checked or adjusted the valves on your V-strom?
@@vityaz5063 my 2016 DL650 is 76,000km checked valves just last week. 4 exhausts valves slightly out of spec. I adjusted them. I get 350km per tank on average driving 120-130 kmh highways
That is about right. I never ride below 90km/hr on highway. My riding speed usually in between 120 to 130km/hr. The most I could get from the tank was 320 to 350 km
One of the GOAT bikes.
Lightweight. Nah. Easy to ride yeah. But you’re spot on. It’s extremely top heavy at low speed. I love your comment of ‘if you’ve got a missus with density’ …
As you rightly point out, it will never be a duel sport. If that’s what you want, and I am very empathetic to the idea because of the engine, start with the sv 650 and turn it into a scrambler. The bike starts with all the extraneous bits removed as standard. Add a bashplate, upgrade rear shock and change the forks and hey presto 😅, better outcome than starting with the VStrom.
Hi Land Shark, that last comment went before I was finished,
so I will continue.
Or the ability to transfer weight with the throttle or brakes, provided you not in deep sand😮 which can be stressful at times.
The 60 odd hp and delivery is more than you ever need on road or offroad and the connection between the right wrist and the rear contact patch is, well magic.
The only Vstrom I ever bought new was the first of the second gen 1000's. My four first gen. 650's have between 28K and 367K travelled,
(not all my kms) are in various forms of modification to suit offroad to long road trips. They are just best do it all motorcycles with long term ownership being built on its durability.
I wonder if Suzuki will ever redevelop a mid size 90 degree L twin again, or it's gone😢.
The new models, from 2017 through 2023 are the Gen 3 models.
Love my 2015 dl big block tires and a skid plate . Michigan back roads have never been so fun! Then put some street shoes on her and road across the country.its the bike I never knew I always wanted 😂
Great Advice, love the comment on the "Misses with a little more Density"...my wife complains she's fat at 119 lbs.😜
very very very good review sir well done I love the honesty and lack of bullshit!!! good one fella !!!!
How does it go against our rural roads, pothole fill on, pothole fill? My cruiser just doesn't cut it and doubt a suspension upgrade will fix the spine crunch....
This is the model I'm looking for.
I like the V-Strom XT, a lovely bike. I like the small panniers, not the big, metal ones. Givi has some nice ones!
On my second 650 xt 1st 2017 now on 2022 love it done some mods fat bar heated grips crash bars givi luggage givi screen and some other bits n bobs most comfortable bike I’ve owned good mpg as you say it’s not bril at any one thing but dose every thing well can’t see me changing for a long time
I own the same model and colour. Very easy bike to ride and lots of fun in the twisties.
Why no screen on the bike at the beginning of the video. Do you ride it like that? Having owned over 20 bikes I find the Givi Airflow probably the best screen I've had on any bike. 😀
Absolutely right. I can keep up with 1000cc in the twisties
Hi Land Shark, The DL 650 is a personal favourite on mine. The only problem I've got is which one of the 4 of them do I choose today, or should I just take the DL 1000a (2014) just for slightly different strom experience? The thing I like the most is front to rear balance and the ability to change it quickly with you riding position
I have a 2017 with 24000km no issues. Change the oil lube the chain and go.
I'm considering buying a 2009 V Strom 650, with 55,000 miles on it. Should I be worried about miles?
I have a 2014 with 14,000km on it. I really want a Triumph 900 GT Pro. But I just can’t let go of the Strom. I don’t find the Strom very comfortable as the foot pegs are way too high. It’s hard finding a comfortable bike when you own a Victory Vision. That’s a comfortable bike.
I'm considering getting a V Strom. My current ride is a BMW r1100rt. It's too heavy for me. I'm 76. Have you ridden an RT? Do you think the V Strom would make a significant difference? My RT weighs about 650 lbs. Cheers!!
I have this bike. I've raised the handlebars, put wider bars, changed out the pegs for adv pegs, givi windscreen, givi bashplate, shad topboxes and panniers, extra led lights,fork braces, barkbusters, etc
Tell me, can this bike do the sort of riding Itchy Boots does in America, Africa and India?
Got the gen2 2016 dl650 for a year now, it's my first bike and enjoyed it so far, my fuel consumption is 4.3L/100km , the confort is great, the things I dislike are the clutch lever is a bit hard compared to other bike (might change the cable) and the engine is too linear and not so fun but it's not a sport bike so I guess it's ok. No problems so far and I do my own maintenance
Nice Huge Mirrors. Love that!
hey i am unsure if i heard you right, but does the bike have a fuel gauge?
I went from Gen 1 to Gen 3. Don't like the look of Gen 2. But they are all phantastic bikes. My next bike will be the new V-Strom 800.
"P" Strom.
U said it ALL!
Congrats.
😊👍🙏 is that a givi Airflow windshield?
I agree I've had mine since 2014 and definitely just love it,, I'm trying to remember if anyone knows I would appreciate it but there is a set of brake shoes that all automotive shops have that will fit on a 2013 to 2017 or something VStrom,, I bought a set about 6 years ago but I cannot remember what I ordered, and I live in the southeast of Kentucky and the nearest Suzuki shop is probably $150 mi away,, anyhow if anyone reads this and knows I would appreciate the info
Perfectly explained.
I don’t feel guilty dropping it in the back country , and it’s like a Toyota Hilux dependable
Just done 18000kms tour around Europe Turkey Georgia and Armenia on my 2014 2nd gen... Never missed a beat only slight issue I had was I got a slow puncture on the front, it turns out it was internal corrosion, mechanic said it was due to a environmental type paint that they now used... I guess it starts to flake
Own DL650 2007 taken her around OZ 2up few times never had a problem still just stock ungaurded and have taken her Outback the only thing need oil the chain. 😊
LAND SHARK or anyone in the comments, I need some advice. 2007 V-Strom, fully kitted up for touring, panniers, drop protection, the lot, regularly serviced with 70k on the clock. They want $5k Oz for it. Yeah or nah, will be my first bike. Until this one came up I had been planning on a late model KLR650 for twice the price. Just want to get out and explore the South Island of NZ, mostly highway, with a bit of gravel.
Suspension, on most bikes, is aimed at someone who weighs 70 - 75kg. This has been true for all my bikes, even a ktm 990 smt.
Hello strom rider's
From Sydney Australia
I have a gen 3 vstrom 650xt which I bought oct 22
agree with everything you say the best bike don't want to change anything till warranty finish can someone give me some sites where i can get aftermarket parts for my strom will be apprishiated.
Ps: the vstrom does everything it suppose to do and nothing else and does it better than more expensive one's. To all the rider's out there ride safe an enjoy
Hola. Concuerdo con todo lo que mencionas.
Excelente moto, de altísima
Calidad
How in the heck did you know I was Gen X? And how did you know I was looking to buy a WeeStrom? GET OUT OF MY HEAD!
IF YOU HIT ANY MUD, there is a good chance your front end locks up against the fender and you will fly over the handlebars. be sure to not overestimate the capability of this bike. can do gravel but no trails. Get a drz400 or dr650 if you need more of that capability
I just joined the Cult. 2015 650 with 12.5k miles.
10 reasons starts at 4 minutes.
Gen 1 is best 🙂 specifically the pre ABS 650. 18 years on it still did a 3000 mile tour through 7 countries including Switzerland Austria and Germany this year. footage is on my channel if you are interested 🙂 theres a 15 year owners review and more DL650 vids all over the channel 🙂 good luck with the channel fellow #Stromtrekkers #RideFree
Reason #1 It feels like Home.
You have the best looking version. The new ones seem like they are going for ugliest bike competition.
I agree with most points. I owned that version you have, now I have the latest version. Its just that the older version is so ugly in my opinion :) The innocent fairy looking headlights, the shiny plastic, the round and curvy design... dont go with the spirit of the bike ever. First model was loved because of its strong angular design. They also did a good job in the current version but that one in the middle was a poor design experiment.
I agree, mine is also orange ;)
No, i donot agree, bought a 2021 with 4600 km in april 2022 and sold it with 63000 km today, no issues at all, except a ball bearing on the rear pinion hub.
I shall get another one straight way…
The problem is the bike is an amazing tool, but it depends on your purpose. If you want fun, the Vstrom is not the bike to get. I own a V-Strom as a beginner rider but eventually i will get something else for fun. As reliability and a tool to depend on for a quality ride, ya no doubt.. Vstrom all the way.
What's your idea of "fun"? I enjoy going from dirt to road, to dirt and always having it start, as FUN! Is it a racing bike? Nope, but it corners pretty well, does a lil of everything, doesn't break the bank and always makes it home! That's fun for m!
@@unsinkablemb *SPOT ON* mate 👍
@@unsinkablemb Yep, totally agree. I have had bikes that were more of a blast on the road, others that were fun but dangerous and some great dirt bikes too but, that same model DL 650 and even color as the one here would be the best all rounder and I only ever felt 'I' wasn't doing it justice was when I bought another lighter bike with 165 hp but, man I wish I'd kept that V Strom. They absolutely ARE fun and so versatile.
Agreed mate. After jumping off other bikes, it's just not as fun but its usually the one I'll pick for a long commute.
I have tons of fun on mine in the twisties...what bike are you saying is more fun? yeah, it is no wheelie machine but it is still fun. but yes, if you need wheelie power to have fun, this isn't it
I also own a gen 2 V-Strom 650..put 9 thousand miles on it to date.. i have to agree with this vid..ride one and you will see..TELLIN YA :O)