Thanks for clearing things up, we have survived on rabbits for 3 years now and it's the best source of food for any one working out to be self sufficient.
@@WasBannedTho i have tried raising both and every-time i find my self leaning more towards rabbits because of how easy they are to manage, good manure , high meat to bone ratio, fast growth, being able to feed just forage list is endless
@@ABCRabbitFarm the upkeep may be easier but the point is the chickens will be doing more than the rabbits so yeah it’s up to you to weigh the benefits but I still would go for both not just one for a balanced diet since it has eggs and meat
Butter, Rabbit, chicken, beef, lamb, eggs, and bacon makes for a very good balance for a carnivore approach. The fats are helpful for calories and satiety. All the nutrients you need are there. Meat is the most nutrient dense food on earth. Always try to include organ meats as well. Super food. Great video.
i'f i'm not mistaken the only thing that can be missing is some vitamins that are low in content(vitamins c and e). So either you eat something like raw liver like the Inuits (c is reduced/destroyed by cooking) or just trow some fish and fruit in your diet just to be safe.
@@Steve-ev6vx That is outright heresy! An occasional strip of bacon!? For safety's sake, you should have at least four strips of the regular bacon, or two of the thick cut bacon, on a frequent basis, to help avoid rabbit starvation, or diabetes, or whatever. And now I'm picturing using bacon on rabbit, like we do with venison, to provide the fat...
Even if your rabbits were extremely lean, wouldn't it work to just grill it with olive/coconut oil or butter? Sounds like you'd get plenty of fat for your dietary needs, and it'll make your mouth water too.
Or lard. Imo every homestead benefits from a couple of small lard pigs to do digging work and process scraps and carcasses. American Guinea Hogs, Asian Heritage Hogs, something like that. Two of them for companionship, a breeding pair if you produce enough feed, buy in weaners once a year otherwise.
Not remotely difficult. And you can in fact eat healthy for less money than you can buy cheap trash. You just have to know how to cook it. And that is where most people have screwed up. The percentage of people in America who are almost completely ignorant in how to actually do real cooking is staggering.
@@Roberto-de8xv You have the greatest cookbook that's ever been created..... The internet. Just look up things like "healthy recipes on a budget". You can also look up the various food challenges like the old "$3 a day food challenge" from about 8 years ago. They also have more modern challenges for $5 and $10 a day. Fact is people don't want to actually cook. They rather watch TV or play on the net. If you're opening up a bunch of cans and jars to fix food, you're paying too much.
If you are still worried about protein posing after this video there is a very easy way of getting more animal fat lard and beef talo. Nether are expensive and can make your food taste great
My mind is blown. I grew up with this myth and it has definitely been a barrier to considering raising my own meat rabbits. Thank you for this and debunking this myth!
I mean are you really ever only going to eat meat? I mean if you're in the Alaskan wilderness like the guy says. Your going to incorporate butter, carbs like breading, potatoes, etc.
There is also called fish species Grass carp, its a fish that is very popular in Asia as fish fry with tarter sauce. Its a kind of catfish better quality than tilapia in my opinion. The grass carp are extremely easy to grow and they eat nothing but vegetation - leaves. They thrive in room temperature water and really delicious and succulent meat. I tasted it when I was in India on vacation. So you can keep some tanks indoor to raise fish along with rabbits.
I am not sure how easy it is to raise a sufficent ammount of fish indoors. There is a video where some people keep large wish in their basement but i doubt that this will be easy to copy for everyone. In my area in germany outdoor fishponds are quite common so i would copy that. Just make sure to put a need above it for fisheating birds. The major problem is the size.
@@westmeadowrabbits in germany we breed mostly mirror carps. They have few scales and thus are easy to process later. If you have moving water trouts are another great alternative. (And tasty when smoked)
The challenge with grass carp is getting them to reproduce. You can't buy viable grass carp in the US, so you would have to catch them yourself. And figure out how to breed them.
@@uwesca6263 Yes, key note you live in Germany... there is less land per capita. The video is mostly targeting americans.... Edit: I think this is poorly worded but I believe the whole comment was supposed to be responding to this: "The major problem is the size" implying that with the US having more land area is less of a problem but goodness without trying to figure out what I was talking about this looked dumb
I have just found your site. I appreciate the level of valuable information you provide to the small farmer or the more self sufficient urban or city dweller. I have the cutesy, fuzzy problem with butchering rabbits. But if I am going to continue to eat meat, I don't choose to be a hypocrite. Killing any living critter as a food source demands that I be honest with myself. I am not and have rarely ever eaten totally vegan or as a vegetarian. Providing my family and myself with the best possible high quality food is my objective, when and if I can no longer purchase or trade for meat, I want to be prepared. You are a thoughtful being. Thank you for sharing, I like and subscribe.
Its always anoyed me when we get weekend warrior preppers who think they need to be ready for nuclear armagedon and base their suggestions off that. I have a much more pratical approach. Keep the pantry stocked so short term disruptions (1-2 weeks) are a non issue. Keep a supply of potable water on hand that can see you through a couple months. Have a couple months to a year worth of freeze dried food with long shelf lifes to see you through long term disruptions. Have some boom booms (dont ban me youtube) for either hunting for food or self defence. asorted supplies to power devices and purify/transport water. Preping is about being ready to weather any survivable disruption to life and give yourself time to secure additional food/water should it become needed. You dont need an underground bunker that you can seal yourself in for the next 30 years and enough supplies to turn yourself into a morloc.
It won't happen unless your bodyfat percentage is in the single-digits and you only eat lean meat for a week. It's what makes people lose weight on the carnivore diet. Gluconeogenesis is the process by which our bodies convert lean meat protein into glucose for energy. The "problem" is that the process takes more energy to convert the protein into glucose than the amount of energy that glucose yields. It's an inefficient process. So if you have any excess bodyfat, it'll get turned into usable glucose and burned as energy when the energy deficit is created by the gluconeogenesis process. Of course if you don't have much bodyfat, like a lot of early American pioneers did back when our nation was still a developing country, then the energy deficit will cause your body to start eating itself, starting with your muscles. When that gets inefficient and you look like you're starving, which takes most people about a week once you get down below 10 percent bodyfat, then your body's organs begin to shut down starting with the least necessary. Your heart rate will slow, your extremities will go numb, you'll fall asleep, and then it will take you. That's the most extreme and rare possibility, and the fact that Americans of all people are worried about this condition from eating rabbits tells you how far some people will go to avoid eating something. That's just pickiness, and it's a psychological condition bred from having the luxury of never actually starving. Far from starving, most of us Americans could use a little mal de caribou.
If you just eat the meat yes . But lets be real for a sec atleast when it comes to homestaders small or big they all will have some sorts of weggies or potatos to go whit it so it aint a problem there
Right! Like what plausible situation would someone find themselves in when the only food available is rabbits. Maybe if you are stuck in a northern wilderness or tundra during winter, but that's about it.
08:05 they should have shown a similar breakdown for the rabbit as the chicken. they took the lowest fatty point and compared it to the average off the whole chicken. stark difference
but if you are eating fish and other meats along with rabbit what's the issue ? and buying tallow mixing rabbit meat with it solves the problem. I personally think eating only meat is not correct but I whole heatedly agree with raising vegetarian animals like goat and rabbits. Goats are easy to keep as well.
hopefull going to acquire my first property this year and i always intuitively knew they were better than chickens, just subs cause you give good info in them and im gonna raise meat rabbit
I'm a prepper and i avoid the prepper communities. You are more likely to be hit with a storm like Katrina or the snow storms we had last year than a zombie apocalypse. My preps helped my family and friends during the Carr fire in california in 2018. It allowed us to be able to feed up to 18 people for 6 weeks when cash was short handed. That scenario is what made me think i need to worry about the weather more than the government coming to take my guns lol.
Never heard of rabbit starvation as protein poisoning. I thought it had to do with too little fat consumption. I'm still at the start of the video. Edit: You go over what I have stated :o
Question: do you feed the leaves of locust trees to your rabbits? I know my goats and sheep will consume them voraciously, likely due to high protein in the leaves. But do you have any comments about feed it to rabbits?
Thank you for clearing this up! 10:53 The gunshots (?) after your comparison of rabbits to the Cornish X in an actual situation you'd really need them was a nice mic drop.
Yes, and no. Yes, meaning you can only get this problem if you eat nothing but very lean meat whether it’s rabbit or something else. because your body has to have fat. Protein and fat is essential for survival. Carbs are not But if you think eating just meat is the problem, you actually would be wrong about that. There are people that only eat meat and are very healthy for it. I would not have believed this years ago, but I know a few of these carnivores, and they are in much better health than they were when they were eating, lean protein and salads. Strict carnivores eat nothing but meat. And some of them have been doing this for decades. It’s definitely a weird way of eating if you grew up with the food pyramid. You really got a dive down some rabbit holes lol no pun intended. But what we’ve been told and what’s being pushed about a healthy diet is actually not accurate.
@@janawild4582 There are many examples of people eating all kinds of extreme diets, surviving for decades and seeming perfectly healthy on the outside. That doesn't mean it's optimal for humans. We simply aren't strict carnivores looking at our teeth and our gut. While it's possible to survive off of only eating meat, it's not adviseable.
@@tatskamasterhe even mentioned how the domesticated rabbits get too fat easily, so it would be really easy to fatten them up a bit in the last week or two. To 'finish them' as it were
I made a few posts in your last vid about "rabbit starvation" being not about lack of fat, but about lack of certain essential amino acids required by Humans to make certain proteins. I listed a whole bunch, with math and links. Since then I've gone even deeper. Rabbits are low on Phenylalanine. You'd need to eat at least 300g of rabbit meat per day to reach the WHO recommendation. I looked up the symptoms for Phenylalanine deficiency, and found it's dizzyness, lethargy, and the shits. Sounds like "protein poisoning". I also found out something like 1 in 12000 people are born with an inability to process Phenylalanine at all. Sucks to be them. Maybe those who died from "rabbit starvation" had that mutation. But I like you mention a well-fed rabbit won't make you die. Wild starving rabbits are going to have different amino acid profiles. When you're starving, your metabolism changes modes. Anyways, it was fun.
I know about the amino acid profile too. Something few people are aware of, including the person in this video. You beat me to bringing this up. As far as his statement about this happening with any wild animal, not so in the lower 48.
@@swdw973 IKR? It's not about "fat". Even lean meat has plenty of fats in the cell walls. And we can easily produce our own fats, given the right ingredients. The problem with rabbits and rodents is you need to eat A LOT, if that's all you're eating.* You need to eat about 300g, or about 1 pound per day to get all your amino acids. Modern meat rabbits can yield about 3 pounds. So that could sustain one adult human for 3 days. Modern meat rabbits take about 8 weeks to grow to harvest. So you would need to eat about 10 rabbits per month, per person. That's a lot of rabbits! :) * If that's ALL you're eating. I'm not saying rabbits can't be part of a healthy varied diet. ;)
@@MajorMalfunction I guess you missed the fact that I was AGREEING with you. The comment about fat content of wild animals was directed at his comment about you can have meat too lean in any wild animal. What makes that statement BS is the fact this is EXTTREMELY rare in the lower 48, and typically only happens to the animals (elk, deer, etc) in a hard winter over January and February. Since hunting seasons are typically in fall and early winter, he was choosing to make a statement that was not applicable about fat content in wild meat, just to try and back up the rest of his statements ,which were also not dealing with the actual issue that you mentioned. This is a case of diverting the issue from the actual problem, just to make it seem like his position on this topic is valid.
Its my understanding that the problem with eating only rabbit was to do with the lack of nutrients. They eat grass constantly which just goes straight through them, they do not absorb a lot from this grass in their digestive system. It's not a huge problem though, here in NZ the rabbit hunters of the past would just add some cabbage to their rabbit stew and that would be enough.
This has nothing to do with wabbits, but there is something that's different from protein poisoning, called "protein toxicity", which IS a real thing. Protein metabolism (the breaking down of protein by the body) produces waste products (chiefly ammonia) which are eliminated through the liver, and then the kidneys. Protein toxicity is what happens if, for some reason, you ingest more protein than the ammonia you are able to excrete through these organs. Most commonly, it's when your liver or kidneys are damaged (in such cases, your doctor will put you on a low protein diet). But it is possible for a healthy human to eat enough protein to cause protein toxicity to happen, as well. It would take about 4 or 5g of protein per pound of body weight a day, to get to that point. That is of course a lot, and you can't really ingest enough meat to get there, but it's certainly doable with protein supplements. I know people who aim for 3+ g of protein/pound, and they're close to the danger zone. Important to note that protein toxicity will happen irrespective of whether you also ingest fat/carbs, or not. And it can happen on a much faster timeline than protein poisoning (which takes weeks of eating exclusively protein).
We are carnivores it doesn't make sense for the human body to exhibit protein toxicity from *animal meat* . Some of these medical journals from the NCBI are so full of sh*t, pardon my language there, but it's true. If what you say were true, these competitive bodybuilders who take steroids would all be dying from kidney failure, but the reality is that they more than often die from an enlarged heart. I won't get into specifics but the average competitive bodybuilder diet has like 4-500g of protein on a daily basis, and you never see the cause of death from these people being protein toxicity on the kidneys unless there was some sort of really rare genetic disorder. A lot of these experiments used for these studies rely on mice and rats, because "experts" debate that the physiology of a rodent is extremely similar to that of the human body. However time and time again this debate has been questioned.
Thank you for debunking the rabbit meat myth. I've always wondered about that as my dad used to tell us if all we had to eat was wild rabbits we would starve. We hunted them every winter and enjoyed the meat but the only thing I noticed was the meat was really lean. Sadly we only raised chickens and never raised our own rabbits. I never did believe one could over indulge with meat protein. When I became an adult I remember reading about a couple of men who were trapping somewhere in the north. Their diet, according to the writer, was almost exclusively meat from the animals they trapped. He estimated they ate 5 lbs or more each day. They did it for several winters in a row with no issues.
And then there's the story of Ada Blackjack who was stuck in the Arctic with five white men, they all succumbed to scurvy with plenty of meat around. She was very lucky to make it out of that situation alive, probably did because she ate better than the white men she trekked up there w and had more body fat to start out with. I think rabbit starvation has a grain of truth to it, if your diet isn't somewhat balanced - only eating protein can wreak havoc on your system. No vitamin C you get scurvy, muck with your B vitamins and you'll get BeriBeri and schizophrenia symptoms, can't get enough iron? you'll die from anemia... etc etc
Great video I wonder if this got confused with another thing, ‘’if you eat only rabbit you’ll die’’ was a factoid on the British show QI almost two decades age, and it was cause rabbit doesn’t contain something the human body need’s to survive, but that’s if you ate ONLY rabbit.
Well, most foods (including rabbit) are not nutritionally complete. However if they were fat enough and you at the organs, you could in theory survive off of rabbits indefinitely.
Too much protein can cause gluconeogenesis not the same as protein poisoning. It has a similar effect to eating carbs in that it raises your glucose levels which can be an issue if you are Diabetic. Rabbit being a very lean meat would be closer to being an issue tham beef as an example. That being said it isn't hard to add some fat to your diet. 7.1g Rabbit meat contains 7.1g of total fat1. Most of the fat in rabbit meat is saturated, followed by monounsaturated fats, with polyunsaturated fats in last place2. Rabbit meat is low in fat, with only 2-3% fats, but during lactation, the amount can go up to 5%3. The calorie breakdown of rabbit meat is 19% fat, 0% carbs, and 81% protein4. Rabbits prone to obesity tend to be more than 20 to 40 percent overweight5.
@@darrent3869 Females are typically bigger when mature, but you are going to be processing around 8-12 weeks, and they will be the same size. If you're just starting be sure to check out the other videos on the channel. They will answer a lot of questions you might have!
I am from Nigeria in West Africa, and i can pretty tell you this is trange for me. We have never have this myth. As a matter of historical fact, which is likely held across Africa as a whole, Rabbit meat is considered a delicacies - otherwise known as "bushmeat' - something you guys in the west cvalled game animals. Hence, Nigerians and Africans in general consider rabbit meat special.
but who eats rabbit skin or fat? where as chicken skin and dark meat is delicious. that is the main issue with eating rabbits. for those that need to lose weight it would be good tho.
I covered this in the video, but wild rabbit is totally different than domestic rabbit. Even then it would be really hard to get rabbit starvation even in a wild survival situation. Just eat the brains or some nuts.
I would define an Apocalypse as a disaster event that wipes out greater than 50% of the population. The only kinds of events that would do that in the modern world would be beyond extreme, things like total nuclear war , bioengineerd viruses, or an asteroid the size of what took out the dinosaurs. In that kind of situation, most, if not all of humanity will be killed. Mathematically your odds of surviving something like that are next to zero, regardless of your preparations.
I’m eating a carnivore diet for over three and a half years, I eat rabbit and quail, love it. My rabbits are wild so taste very gamey, but hopefully after doing my research I’ll be eating some of my own.😊
Protein poisoning is closely related to the Protein-Sparing Modified Fast diet. In both conditions you get the bulk of your energy from your body fat but eat enough protein to keep your muscles from breaking down. So I could imagine someone trying to adjust the PSMF protocol to be more comfortable might end up with non-fatal symptoms of protein poisoning (this might concievably happen to fad diet enthusiasts or to bodybuilders trying to cut weight for a show). And since the symptoms are kinda nonspecific and people radically changing their diets will expect to feel a bit sick, if it happened it probably wouldn't get documented.
In a few minutes, you've concisely cleared up and swept away a myth I heard decades ago, and accepted without question.
It's very wide spread, and we've all heard it from people we trust, so you're not alone. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for clearing things up, we have survived on rabbits for 3 years now and it's the best source of food for any one working out to be self sufficient.
I presume that you are eating some things other than just the rabbits?
@@vidard9863yeah, rabbit broth
Chickens lay eggs frequently and you get more out of everything per 100 grams. If you are just living off rabbits you are holding yourself back
@@WasBannedTho i have tried raising both and every-time i find my self leaning more towards rabbits because of how easy they are to manage, good manure , high meat to bone ratio, fast growth, being able to feed just forage list is endless
@@ABCRabbitFarm the upkeep may be easier but the point is the chickens will be doing more than the rabbits so yeah it’s up to you to weigh the benefits but I still would go for both not just one for a balanced diet since it has eggs and meat
Butter, Rabbit, chicken, beef, lamb, eggs, and bacon makes for a very good balance for a carnivore approach. The fats are helpful for calories and satiety. All the nutrients you need are there. Meat is the most nutrient dense food on earth. Always try to include organ meats as well. Super food.
Great video.
Sauerkraut!
Very good
i'f i'm not mistaken the only thing that can be missing is some vitamins that are low in content(vitamins c and e). So either you eat something like raw liver like the Inuits (c is reduced/destroyed by cooking) or just trow some fish and fruit in your diet just to be safe.
@@raptor909 Natives relied on pine needle tea and tea in general to get some of that vit c.
Your spot on as far as I can tell.
@@raptor909 yes, I eat the liver. One way to do that is save rabbit liver which is very mild and grind a little of it into the ground beef.
Perfect video. A homesteading channel that uses research for support is a welcome one indeed. Thank you very much.
Thank you!
Great video. I've raise meat rabbits and if I had a dollar for every time someone has told me I'm poisoning myself I'd be rich. It is so annoying.
Same, I literally don't understand it. Next time someone says it to you send them this video!
An occasional strip of bacon is all thats needed 😂
@@Steve-ev6vx That is outright heresy! An occasional strip of bacon!? For safety's sake, you should have at least four strips of the regular bacon, or two of the thick cut bacon, on a frequent basis, to help avoid rabbit starvation, or diabetes, or whatever. And now I'm picturing using bacon on rabbit, like we do with venison, to provide the fat...
@@BruceS42 It works. I fried a set of cotton tail back straps and hind quarters in rendered bacon fat last week. It was delicious 😋.
@@Steve-ev6vx In case it wasn't clear, I was just joking that you'd implied far too little bacon. I love bacon.
its like you said. its not about how much protein you are eating. it is the lack of other things that you are eating
Even if your rabbits were extremely lean, wouldn't it work to just grill it with olive/coconut oil or butter? Sounds like you'd get plenty of fat for your dietary needs, and it'll make your mouth water too.
Exactly! I don't understand why people think it's hard to get fat in a normal diet.
Stews would also allow you to combine protein and carbohydrates into a tasty and functional diet.
Or lard. Imo every homestead benefits from a couple of small lard pigs to do digging work and process scraps and carcasses.
American Guinea Hogs, Asian Heritage Hogs, something like that. Two of them for companionship, a breeding pair if you produce enough feed, buy in weaners once a year otherwise.
@@priestesslucyAgreed!
@@westmeadowrabbitsbecause they’re parroting trivia points without actually thinking
In the modern US, it is so hard to find food not loaded up with sugar. Never going to get protein poisoning.
Yeah we get diabetes instead
Not remotely difficult.
And you can in fact eat healthy for less money than you can buy cheap trash. You just have to know how to cook it. And that is where most people have screwed up.
The percentage of people in America who are almost completely ignorant in how to actually do real cooking is staggering.
Most of us Americans could use a little protein poisoning and little less Dunkin Donuts.
@@lordgarion514What does a day of healthy eating look like? Do you have an example?
@@Roberto-de8xv
You have the greatest cookbook that's ever been created..... The internet.
Just look up things like "healthy recipes on a budget".
You can also look up the various food challenges like the old "$3 a day food challenge" from about 8 years ago. They also have more modern challenges for $5 and $10 a day.
Fact is people don't want to actually cook. They rather watch TV or play on the net.
If you're opening up a bunch of cans and jars to fix food, you're paying too much.
If you are still worried about protein posing after this video there is a very easy way of getting more animal fat lard and beef talo. Nether are expensive and can make your food taste great
My mind is blown. I grew up with this myth and it has definitely been a barrier to considering raising my own meat rabbits. Thank you for this and debunking this myth!
I honestly didn't know how prevalent it was until I started making RUclips videos.
I mean are you really ever only going to eat meat? I mean if you're in the Alaskan wilderness like the guy says. Your going to incorporate butter, carbs like breading, potatoes, etc.
@@justdrewtheultramagaspoonc5043 yes i only ever eat meat. Healthiest ive been in decades.
There is also called fish species Grass carp, its a fish that is very popular in Asia as fish fry with tarter sauce. Its a kind of catfish better quality than tilapia in my opinion. The grass carp are extremely easy to grow and they eat nothing but vegetation - leaves. They thrive in room temperature water and really delicious and succulent meat. I tasted it when I was in India on vacation.
So you can keep some tanks indoor to raise fish along with rabbits.
I am not sure how easy it is to raise a sufficent ammount of fish indoors. There is a video where some people keep large wish in their basement but i doubt that this will be easy to copy for everyone.
In my area in germany outdoor fishponds are quite common so i would copy that. Just make sure to put a need above it for fisheating birds. The major problem is the size.
That's really interesting. I've been planning an aquaponics system for a long time so I will have to look into this species.
@@westmeadowrabbits in germany we breed mostly mirror carps. They have few scales and thus are easy to process later. If you have moving water trouts are another great alternative. (And tasty when smoked)
The challenge with grass carp is getting them to reproduce. You can't buy viable grass carp in the US, so you would have to catch them yourself.
And figure out how to breed them.
@@uwesca6263 Yes, key note you live in Germany... there is less land per capita. The video is mostly targeting americans....
Edit: I think this is poorly worded but I believe the whole comment was supposed to be responding to this: "The major problem is the size" implying that with the US having more land area is less of a problem but goodness without trying to figure out what I was talking about this looked dumb
Some might be saying poisoning just to scare you from using rabbits as a source of food/clothing 🤷♂️
I have just found your site. I appreciate the level of valuable information you provide to the small farmer or the more self sufficient urban or city dweller. I have the cutesy, fuzzy problem with butchering rabbits. But if I am going to continue to eat meat, I don't choose to be a hypocrite. Killing any living critter as a food source demands that I be honest with myself. I am not and have rarely ever eaten totally vegan or as a vegetarian. Providing my family and myself with the best possible high quality food is my objective, when and if I can no longer purchase or trade for meat, I want to be prepared. You are a thoughtful being. Thank you for sharing, I like and subscribe.
Its always anoyed me when we get weekend warrior preppers who think they need to be ready for nuclear armagedon and base their suggestions off that. I have a much more pratical approach. Keep the pantry stocked so short term disruptions (1-2 weeks) are a non issue. Keep a supply of potable water on hand that can see you through a couple months. Have a couple months to a year worth of freeze dried food with long shelf lifes to see you through long term disruptions. Have some boom booms (dont ban me youtube) for either hunting for food or self defence. asorted supplies to power devices and purify/transport water.
Preping is about being ready to weather any survivable disruption to life and give yourself time to secure additional food/water should it become needed. You dont need an underground bunker that you can seal yourself in for the next 30 years and enough supplies to turn yourself into a morloc.
100% agreed!
Not the Morlocs!
This is class room level instruction. Nicely done.
Thanks!
50% fat and 50% protein. Good stuff!
interesting video. I personally think mostly in terms of survival situations when thinking about protein poisoning
It's more relevant in a wilderness situation, but still incredibly rare.
Very useful video!!
That was fantastic. Much better than my reaction to this sort of objection.
It won't happen unless your bodyfat percentage is in the single-digits and you only eat lean meat for a week. It's what makes people lose weight on the carnivore diet. Gluconeogenesis is the process by which our bodies convert lean meat protein into glucose for energy. The "problem" is that the process takes more energy to convert the protein into glucose than the amount of energy that glucose yields. It's an inefficient process. So if you have any excess bodyfat, it'll get turned into usable glucose and burned as energy when the energy deficit is created by the gluconeogenesis process. Of course if you don't have much bodyfat, like a lot of early American pioneers did back when our nation was still a developing country, then the energy deficit will cause your body to start eating itself, starting with your muscles. When that gets inefficient and you look like you're starving, which takes most people about a week once you get down below 10 percent bodyfat, then your body's organs begin to shut down starting with the least necessary. Your heart rate will slow, your extremities will go numb, you'll fall asleep, and then it will take you. That's the most extreme and rare possibility, and the fact that Americans of all people are worried about this condition from eating rabbits tells you how far some people will go to avoid eating something. That's just pickiness, and it's a psychological condition bred from having the luxury of never actually starving. Far from starving, most of us Americans could use a little mal de caribou.
Always something to concider, many homestead livestock is challanging to feed whithout commercial grain or the ability to process lots of hay .
Great discussion. Good luck in your future endeavors.
Made excellent points! Well done!
Great explanation!
If you just eat the meat yes . But lets be real for a sec atleast when it comes to homestaders small or big they all will have some sorts of weggies or potatos to go whit it so it aint a problem there
Even if rabbit had no fat at all its not like you are only eating rabbit anyways, literally any food can kill you if you have too much.
Right! Like what plausible situation would someone find themselves in when the only food available is rabbits. Maybe if you are stuck in a northern wilderness or tundra during winter, but that's about it.
@@westmeadowrabbits realistically this has probably only happened a relative few times in human history as the circumstances have to be extraordinary.
I grew up eating rabbits and I'm 74yrs
Sounds like a good endorsement!
08:05 they should have shown a similar breakdown for the rabbit as the chicken. they took the lowest fatty point and compared it to the average off the whole chicken. stark difference
Rabbit (domestic) whole is on the right, chicken whole is on the left. There's less than 1.5% difference between the to.
"Sadweey I've been hunting the same wascally wabbit for 86 years... So SHHHH, be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hunting rabbits."
Yours truly, Elmer J. Fudd
but if you are eating fish and other meats along with rabbit what's the issue ? and buying tallow mixing rabbit meat with it solves the problem. I personally think eating only meat is not correct but I whole heatedly agree with raising vegetarian animals like goat and rabbits. Goats are easy to keep as well.
Thanks for clearing this up
Rabbits have plenty of fat. Just eat the brain. Nobody ever talks about that.
Bro, that's savage
Parasites?
It's pretty tiny and isn't substantial enough to be honest
If you're surviving strictly off starving wild rabbit, you're gonna need more brains than you have rabbit lol.
@Darkfreed0m just cook it. The brain is super tasty and fatty
bro, just share the knowledge and fuck those dumbass haters
Thanks for all the good info!!
Thank you. Liked, subbed and commenting.
Awesome, thank you!
Nice work
Thanks!
Nope. I know a doctor and his wife who raises the rabbits for food and they are pretty much the ONLY protein they eat meat wise
hopefull going to acquire my first property this year and i always intuitively knew they were better than chickens, just subs cause you give good info in them and im gonna raise meat rabbit
I'm a prepper and i avoid the prepper communities. You are more likely to be hit with a storm like Katrina or the snow storms we had last year than a zombie apocalypse. My preps helped my family and friends during the Carr fire in california in 2018. It allowed us to be able to feed up to 18 people for 6 weeks when cash was short handed. That scenario is what made me think i need to worry about the weather more than the government coming to take my guns lol.
100% focusing on short to medium term disasters is far more useful than trying to plan to survive the apocalypse.
Plus some of those people are the most toxic people I've ever seen for new people trying to to learn. The Rambo mentally is strong there lol
Never heard of rabbit starvation as protein poisoning.
I thought it had to do with too little fat consumption.
I'm still at the start of the video.
Edit: You go over what I have stated :o
I did the carnivore diet well over a year.. And had tons of blood work done. Each test showed perfect numbers within the normal ranges.
Same for me!
Question: do you feed the leaves of locust trees to your rabbits? I know my goats and sheep will consume them voraciously, likely due to high protein in the leaves. But do you have any comments about feed it to rabbits?
The tannins also help with parasites.
Vă salut,o întrebare ,care este diferența ,din punct de vedere digestiv dintre iepuri și nutria,thanks
I'm not sure, I've never had nutria before!
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Great video 👍
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Awesome, thank you!
Objective facts are beautiful. Great video.
Thank you!
Thanks.
bunnies are cute. I do not think I could kill one to eat! If it was my son or the bunny The bunny would lose.
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I always suspected that just by thinking about for more than a second.
Thank you for clearing this up! 10:53 The gunshots (?) after your comparison of rabbits to the Cornish X in an actual situation you'd really need them was a nice mic drop.
🤣 yea my neighbors were shooting all day!
It was a low fat issue because rabbits were too lean, it used to be called rabbit starvation as an obligate carnivore/lipovore you need fat.
Surely only a problem if rabbits were only source of food?
Yes, and even then it's not a really thing with domesticated rabbits, as explained in the video.
Yes, and no. Yes, meaning you can only get this problem if you eat nothing but very lean meat whether it’s rabbit or something else. because your body has to have fat. Protein and fat is essential for survival. Carbs are not But if you think eating just meat is the problem, you actually would be wrong about that. There are people that only eat meat and are very healthy for it. I would not have believed this years ago, but I know a few of these carnivores, and they are in much better health than they were when they were eating, lean protein and salads. Strict carnivores eat nothing but meat. And some of them have been doing this for decades. It’s definitely a weird way of eating if you grew up with the food pyramid. You really got a dive down some rabbit holes lol no pun intended. But what we’ve been told and what’s being pushed about a healthy diet is actually not accurate.
@@janawild4582 There are many examples of people eating all kinds of extreme diets, surviving for decades and seeming perfectly healthy on the outside. That doesn't mean it's optimal for humans. We simply aren't strict carnivores looking at our teeth and our gut. While it's possible to survive off of only eating meat, it's not adviseable.
@@tatskamasterhe even mentioned how the domesticated rabbits get too fat easily, so it would be really easy to fatten them up a bit in the last week or two. To 'finish them' as it were
When i first saw the thumbnail i thought you were flicking it off lol
Man I wish I had thought of that!
I made a few posts in your last vid about "rabbit starvation" being not about lack of fat, but about lack of certain essential amino acids required by Humans to make certain proteins. I listed a whole bunch, with math and links.
Since then I've gone even deeper.
Rabbits are low on Phenylalanine. You'd need to eat at least 300g of rabbit meat per day to reach the WHO recommendation.
I looked up the symptoms for Phenylalanine deficiency, and found it's dizzyness, lethargy, and the shits.
Sounds like "protein poisoning".
I also found out something like 1 in 12000 people are born with an inability to process Phenylalanine at all. Sucks to be them.
Maybe those who died from "rabbit starvation" had that mutation.
But I like you mention a well-fed rabbit won't make you die. Wild starving rabbits are going to have different amino acid profiles.
When you're starving, your metabolism changes modes.
Anyways, it was fun.
I know about the amino acid profile too. Something few people are aware of, including the person in this video. You beat me to bringing this up. As far as his statement about this happening with any wild animal, not so in the lower 48.
@@swdw973 IKR? It's not about "fat". Even lean meat has plenty of fats in the cell walls. And we can easily produce our own fats, given the right ingredients.
The problem with rabbits and rodents is you need to eat A LOT, if that's all you're eating.*
You need to eat about 300g, or about 1 pound per day to get all your amino acids.
Modern meat rabbits can yield about 3 pounds.
So that could sustain one adult human for 3 days.
Modern meat rabbits take about 8 weeks to grow to harvest.
So you would need to eat about 10 rabbits per month, per person.
That's a lot of rabbits! :)
* If that's ALL you're eating. I'm not saying rabbits can't be part of a healthy varied diet. ;)
@@MajorMalfunction I guess you missed the fact that I was AGREEING with you. The comment about fat content of wild animals was directed at his comment about you can have meat too lean in any wild animal. What makes that statement BS is the fact this is EXTTREMELY rare in the lower 48, and typically only happens to the animals (elk, deer, etc) in a hard winter over January and February. Since hunting seasons are typically in fall and early winter, he was choosing to make a statement that was not applicable about fat content in wild meat, just to try and back up the rest of his statements ,which were also not dealing with the actual issue that you mentioned. This is a case of diverting the issue from the actual problem, just to make it seem like his position on this topic is valid.
@@swdw973 I was agreeing with you, too.
Its my understanding that the problem with eating only rabbit was to do with the lack of nutrients. They eat grass constantly which just goes straight through them, they do not absorb a lot from this grass in their digestive system. It's not a huge problem though, here in NZ the rabbit hunters of the past would just add some cabbage to their rabbit stew and that would be enough.
No that really doesn't have much to do with it. Rabbits have plenty of nutrients, you can see full breakdowns on the USDA food website.
This has nothing to do with wabbits, but there is something that's different from protein poisoning, called "protein toxicity", which IS a real thing. Protein metabolism (the breaking down of protein by the body) produces waste products (chiefly ammonia) which are eliminated through the liver, and then the kidneys.
Protein toxicity is what happens if, for some reason, you ingest more protein than the ammonia you are able to excrete through these organs. Most commonly, it's when your liver or kidneys are damaged (in such cases, your doctor will put you on a low protein diet).
But it is possible for a healthy human to eat enough protein to cause protein toxicity to happen, as well. It would take about 4 or 5g of protein per pound of body weight a day, to get to that point. That is of course a lot, and you can't really ingest enough meat to get there, but it's certainly doable with protein supplements. I know people who aim for 3+ g of protein/pound, and they're close to the danger zone.
Important to note that protein toxicity will happen irrespective of whether you also ingest fat/carbs, or not. And it can happen on a much faster timeline than protein poisoning (which takes weeks of eating exclusively protein).
Great comment! Thank you.
We are carnivores it doesn't make sense for the human body to exhibit protein toxicity from *animal meat* . Some of these medical journals from the NCBI are so full of sh*t, pardon my language there, but it's true.
If what you say were true, these competitive bodybuilders who take steroids would all be dying from kidney failure, but the reality is that they more than often die from an enlarged heart. I won't get into specifics but the average competitive bodybuilder diet has like 4-500g of protein on a daily basis, and you never see the cause of death from these people being protein toxicity on the kidneys unless there was some sort of really rare genetic disorder.
A lot of these experiments used for these studies rely on mice and rats, because "experts" debate that the physiology of a rodent is extremely similar to that of the human body. However time and time again this debate has been questioned.
Very good commentary
He covered protein toxicity..did you watch the full video?
Thank you for debunking the rabbit meat myth. I've always wondered about that as my dad used to tell us if all we had to eat was wild rabbits we would starve. We hunted them every winter and enjoyed the meat but the only thing I noticed was the meat was really lean. Sadly we only raised chickens and never raised our own rabbits.
I never did believe one could over indulge with meat protein. When I became an adult I remember reading about a couple of men who were trapping somewhere in the north. Their diet, according to the writer, was almost exclusively meat from the animals they trapped. He estimated they ate 5 lbs or more each day. They did it for several winters in a row with no issues.
And then there's the story of Ada Blackjack who was stuck in the Arctic with five white men, they all succumbed to scurvy with plenty of meat around. She was very lucky to make it out of that situation alive, probably did because she ate better than the white men she trekked up there w and had more body fat to start out with.
I think rabbit starvation has a grain of truth to it, if your diet isn't somewhat balanced - only eating protein can wreak havoc on your system. No vitamin C you get scurvy, muck with your B vitamins and you'll get BeriBeri and schizophrenia symptoms, can't get enough iron? you'll die from anemia... etc etc
Extra protien gets translated into glucose so I have no idea where this idea came from.😭
Great video I wonder if this got confused with another thing, ‘’if you eat only rabbit you’ll die’’ was a factoid on the British show QI almost two decades age, and it was cause rabbit doesn’t contain something the human body need’s to survive, but that’s if you ate ONLY rabbit.
Well, most foods (including rabbit) are not nutritionally complete. However if they were fat enough and you at the organs, you could in theory survive off of rabbits indefinitely.
@@westmeadowrabbits true but most meats are, imma just eat something other than rabbit once in awhile
Too much protein can cause gluconeogenesis not the same as protein poisoning. It has a similar effect to eating carbs in that it raises your glucose levels which can be an issue if you are Diabetic.
Rabbit being a very lean meat would be closer to being an issue tham beef as an example.
That being said it isn't hard to add some fat to your diet.
7.1g
Rabbit meat contains 7.1g of total fat1. Most of the fat in rabbit meat is saturated, followed by monounsaturated fats, with polyunsaturated fats in last place2. Rabbit meat is low in fat, with only 2-3% fats, but during lactation, the amount can go up to 5%3. The calorie breakdown of rabbit meat is 19% fat, 0% carbs, and 81% protein4. Rabbits prone to obesity tend to be more than 20 to 40 percent overweight5.
What an absurd thing to think. Had never heard it before. It especially would never happen if you're eating the organ meats and fats.
Advice needed: If I wanted to raise a bunny or a few to eventually process for meat which would you recommend male or female?
I'm not sure I understand? Any sex is fine to eat.
@@westmeadowrabbits Haha no worries (newbie here)
Does one grow larger? Or any other differences?
@@darrent3869 Females are typically bigger when mature, but you are going to be processing around 8-12 weeks, and they will be the same size. If you're just starting be sure to check out the other videos on the channel. They will answer a lot of questions you might have!
@@westmeadowrabbits I appreciate the reply! Will definitely subscribe.
Can we feed Azolla☘️ to rabbits 🐇
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Why not have both? 😂
It's great to keep chickens for eggs, but they aren't worth it for meat!
I am from Nigeria in West Africa, and i can pretty tell you this is trange for me. We have never have this myth. As a matter of historical fact, which is likely held across Africa as a whole, Rabbit meat is considered a delicacies - otherwise known as "bushmeat' - something you guys in the west cvalled game animals. Hence, Nigerians and Africans in general consider rabbit meat special.
That's very cool! I always like to here the perspective of people outside the US.
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but who eats rabbit skin or fat? where as chicken skin and dark meat is delicious. that is the main issue with eating rabbits. for those that need to lose weight it would be good tho.
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Acorns???
Or any other nut.
Guys who do primitive wildlife living will talk abbot rabbit starvation diets and bad outcomes
I covered this in the video, but wild rabbit is totally different than domestic rabbit. Even then it would be really hard to get rabbit starvation even in a wild survival situation. Just eat the brains or some nuts.
"If rabbits become obese, they won't breed"
Much like humans then :P
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Wtf you're saying you're not going to survive an Apocalypse? There's been many apocalypses and survivors
I would define an Apocalypse as a disaster event that wipes out greater than 50% of the population. The only kinds of events that would do that in the modern world would be beyond extreme, things like total nuclear war , bioengineerd viruses, or an asteroid the size of what took out the dinosaurs. In that kind of situation, most, if not all of humanity will be killed. Mathematically your odds of surviving something like that are next to zero, regardless of your preparations.
I’m eating a carnivore diet for over three and a half years, I eat rabbit and quail, love it. My rabbits are wild so taste very gamey, but hopefully after doing my research I’ll be eating some of my own.😊
I would rather eat healthy fish, rabbit and chicken than steak
If this condition was accurate as people describe it, it would become the number one way of loosing weight in the USA.
Protein poisoning?? Lie. I do 1 gram of protein per pound plus 20-50 extra grams.
Protein poisoning is closely related to the Protein-Sparing Modified Fast diet. In both conditions you get the bulk of your energy from your body fat but eat enough protein to keep your muscles from breaking down. So I could imagine someone trying to adjust the PSMF protocol to be more comfortable might end up with non-fatal symptoms of protein poisoning (this might concievably happen to fad diet enthusiasts or to bodybuilders trying to cut weight for a show). And since the symptoms are kinda nonspecific and people radically changing their diets will expect to feel a bit sick, if it happened it probably wouldn't get documented.
How do you use rabbit fat?
Nice debunking fear associated with starving while eating rabbit