Ball python with severe neurological issues "hunting" - A test of his abilities
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- Опубликовано: 5 дек 2017
- I got him from a breeder, and trying to get him strong enough to eat on his own. So far, no go, but his sister just took her first. So I have hope. This was a test of how serious his neurological issues were. An assessment of his abilities, and whether he could possibly thrive on his own. Unfortunately, he did not pass any of those tests, and was humanely euthanized shortly afterwards.
The mouse: “You good bro?”
Mania 😂😂 I feel bad 😢
Fr the mouse is like look at this dumb fuck over here 😂 I’m going to hell fasho
That's so, so sad... Poor snake
Allen J. 😂
I love all animals too much to feed snakes live prey instead I’ll just use frozen thawed 😂
Poor guy. He's doing the best he can with what he's got. The spider gene is really torture for them.
Yup, and can even make them wrap around themselves.
People honestly are dumb and do things for money, money is the driving cost for their inevitable downfall. Once they don't make money, they'll throw them and focus on something else.
I get having money can grat you a lot, but breeding an animal with a neurological disorder and then lie saying "It's a funny gimmick!" But in reality it makes them thin if they aren't hand fed. People genuinely think anything that acts dumb is cute. Well.. For the snake it's suffering, it can't eats it's prey normally, the breeders are money hogs who only care about money and not the animals. You can care about money and animals, but if it's ONLY money, it becomes a problem.
In perspective, image your a snake. You lung at a mouse and bang your head on the glass, your owner films you and says "aww, you're so dumb! Hehe" Not knowing you PHYSICALLY can't eat it without hurting yourself, every time you BEND you hit your head, causing more pain.
I honestly hate people who buy animals and don't do research
@@Nast_05 what’s the spider gene
@@niacoleman8602 It changes the pattern on the ball python but sadly it sometimes comes with "wobble" which is the neurological problem this snake has.
@@makenzismith8068 🥺
My friend got one with the gene (could tell by the pattern) and I told her before she got it that it might have a hard time eating. To my shock he didn’t have the wobble at all, just missed his strikes every once in a while
I don’t know much about snakes but I can’t imagine he’s enjoying life
Right, why not put it down? It looks miserable.
Why people still breed this morph of ball python is just pure animal abuse. Some people think it’s cute. It’s straight up abuse. They can’t tell what’s up and what’s down, it’s like playing on an inverted game but for your whole life. People know spider balls come out with neurological problems but they breed them anyway because they are worth a lot of money.
@@bamallama Some people are sick and have to help something. That’s where these snakes come in to make them feel like they’re doing something good for everyone else to see. Meanwhile.... lol
@@SilverXTikal people get them because they think the head wobble and the corkscrew is cute. They say “awe look at it wobbling it’s head”. Not all ball pythons with the spider gene are as bad as this one but when you breed them you are going to get some like this.
@@bamallama they’re sick people xP so it’s more possible with breeding by humans than in nature?
The mouse bouta just crawl in that mouth cus he feels so bad
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
💀💀💀.
Lmao
@MrBig Dick y’all really love that word
Lol... I feel really bad tho T.T
...and this is why they will slowly be phased out. No design/pattern on a snake is truly worth the risks of having neurological disorders.
People are probably going to keep ignoring it, sadly. There are all of these ignorant new people who know nothing about bps and the spider's neurological issue is almost kept a secret. So ignorant first time owners will get the prettiest snake they see without knowing because people keep it a secret because spider ball pythons make money. That's the bottom line. No one cares about these animals, they just care about money. I wish what you said is going to happen, but I fear that this will not be going away easily.
@@siruswildes8384 I agree..if there is any change at all it will be a slow uphill battle. In 2017, the IHS decided to ban the sale or collection of spider ball pythons at any of their events. Also, they banned jaguar carpet pythons and enigma leopard geckos, which have similar issues. At the same time, the FBH (Federation of British Herpetologists) took the same decision. It took effect in 2018. It's a positive sign in the right direction at the least.
@@theothermother70 breaks my heart that WE did this....sometimes, playing god isnt something we should do....
Why would anyone want a retarded snake?
So true, couldn't agree more
This is why I'll never own a ball python with the spider gene
I own 2 and have no issues at all but each its own
Not just spider does this.
Yep. And that’s good.
The less people that want these things, the less they’ll breed these one-foot-in-the-grave snakes.
@@tony2x508 you’re just lucky.
@@andreil1313 there must be a lot of lucky people lmao i know lots of people who own them and dont experience this problem
Snakes are kinda scary to me but this still breaks my heart :(
And it’s a ball python which are pretty nice. This little dude doesn’t know up/down or left/right. Lives in a state of permanent confusion and breeders refuse to stop the breeding of them because they sell for a lot and are pretty :(
@@Punkinkat that’s heartbreaking💔 the beauty of the animal should come from the animal itself it’s way of being in a natural healthy state as they were created to not the way they are breeded carelessly to look more appealing.-.
I have this type of snake (not with neurological issues ) but it lays on my lap and watches tv with me
@@rockopaws1610 that’s abt the sweetest thing I’ve heard all day🥺
This is a ball python and they are normally pretty docile. all that I've met have been sweethearts. Curious and cuddly. Some even sit on the couch and watch movies with you lol.
You know its bad when the mouse isn't even worried...
Weirdly enough, they virtually never are.
Thank you for trying to help him out :) it saddens me that people are so sick to breed them with neurological disorders.
I do my best for all the animals that enter my care. Thanks
You can't really breed out neuro problems the best thing to stop snakes with bad neuro disorders is just not to breed that morph and breed similar looking ones that don't have neuro issues
lunarsnek _217 yes and no. According to some of my breeder friends Some combinations lessen the effects, some increase it. So most are trying to find the balance
@@ToddTheSnakeMan that's cool but I personally don't want to buy a snake with spider genes, even without neurological issues, cause I don't want to encourage breeding spiders by throwing money at the problem. If there's a possibility that they get reliably healthy snakes that would be great, but I would rather we just stop searching for something that might not exist and keep hurting snakes along the way... Like, there are thousands of other great looking morphs that aren't cruel to the snake. Maybe just breed those instead
Idk that's just my opinion
Madeline R even so, this one doesn’t at least according to the breeder card, even have spider in it. Super pastel harlequin orange dream yellow belly.
It can happen anytime, this is super extreme, and something else was wrong with it. It was twice as long, and super skinny compared to a normal ball baby
The snake: *Plzzzz kill me mouse plzzz* !!!
The mouse: *Straight freaking out*
When you accidentally enable the invert y-axis in settings
Lol
Lmao was looking for a comment like this
lol stop
I'm mad that I exhaled at this
Who the hell plays on that?
You should put that thing down, isn’t having any quality of life.
That’s what I’m saying
@@philswift3126 feel bad saying it but if you truly care for a animal you wouldn’t want it too suffer. However I don’t recommend the stupid old hit it over the head crap, take it to a vet and have it peacefully and painlessly put down.
If you had checked the description, it was a test to see if he could thrive on his own despite the condition like his sister. He failed the tests and was humanely put down. I don’t think he put him down right away because he wanted to give the little guy at least a chance before making the decision.
@@hunterkun2918 are you serious give the little guy a chance they shouldn’t have bread them to being with he knew that there would at least be some that would turn out like this that’s the problem doesn’t matter if it’s a test it’s sick
@@philswift3126 He bought them from a breeder! He didn’t breed them himself. Read the description before making assumptions.
That morph has been known to have neurological issues. I feel for you and your snake, and you should probably take him to a vet to see if they can do anything.
There is nothing a vet could do. This was a 3-4 gene combo. I was just hoping to be able to get them through it. Unfortunately, after a few months they passed away.
ToddTheSnakeMan Aw. That’s so sad. I’m sorry.
Dang spider gene
@@ToddTheSnakeMan poor slitherpuppies
Like...brain surgery or seizure meds? Not likely, just euthanasia.
Geeze... I cant even imagine being unable to control my own body like that. And those positions the snake is twisting itself in look painful... I feel bad for the poor guy.
Snakes can't feel pain so relax
@@Prashant-xl1rv actually they can. Due to slow metabolism it just takes a while for them to feel pain.
@@capitalnexus Sorry but no they can not feel pain as they, like most reptiles, lack nocireceptors and what you mostly see in them is just a primitive mechanism for survival and defence.
Please don't take fraud organisations like PETA's articles seriously
Anthropomorphism is a basic human tendancy
@@Prashant-xl1rv Thank you for the insight and also I dont listen to PETA anyway.
That snake is absolutely beautiful and doesn’t deserve the fate he was dealt 😔 at least he’s trying his best
The snake freaking out not knowing which way is up:
The mouse watching him freak:👁🫁👁
This is so heart breaking
I'm feeling really bad for searching "neurological disorders in snakes"
Just made me feel bad and sad
Sorry about that. It is something people need to know, when breeding. Stuff happens, people are born with similar issues to a lot of the animals I take in. But I do my best to help them thrive.
I wanted to show my mom examples of breeds existing (*being bred) despite the long standing health issues associated with said breed, and the most glaring example was the spider ball python unfortunately.
Aside from pugs (lots of respiratory issues from what I’ve gathered), I can’t think of any other off the top of my head.
@@smallandstressed2364 here's a few other examples if you want to know more. Bulldogs have similar issues to pugs, plus they usually get heart problems. As for other examples in dogs, Great Danes have much shorter life spans thanks to certain issues they have, and there are German Shepherds bred with hips that lead them to get crippling joint problems. Tea cup breeds I've heard have pretty bad problems, but I can't quite remember what those are...
Also, super cinnamon and (I think) black pastel ball pythons often are born with spinal kinks, some of which make the snake surviving impossible. There are a few other morphs in ball pythons with the same issue as spider, but the only two I can think of off the top of my head are woma and champagne. Most people say spiders have the worst problems, but my woma ball python is worse then some spiders I've seen, so I'm a bit sceptical of that.
booglegirl MMD thanks.
And what how abaut the mouse
I am terrified of snakes but this was actually pretty damn sad to see😔
The mouse:"OH GOD A SNAKE!"
The snake:*head spinnn*
The mouse:"u ok? Should I get a doctor?"
I think at some point the mouse even felt Bad for him.
You really shouldn't feed snakes with severe feeding issues live mice. It's unsafe dude
This was a test to see how bad the neuro issue was. There was no "danger" involved, practically on my lap in front of me, so I could see what the response was.
@@ToddTheSnakeMan is this a common issue with snakes? why does this happen also
Wes no. It is inherent in a few of the genetic color patterns (like spider), but in most cases it is mild. However, some combinations can make it worse, and some can hide it. This was just unfortunate. Like a human kid being born blind or without an arm.
@@ToddTheSnakeMan o ok
Cristian !!! The snake was humanely euthanized not long after this video was taken. This was a test of her abilities after 3 assisted feedings.
This is so depressing to watch
I've never had my heartstrings pulled by a snake. I really wish him the best.
What a little sweetie. I'm glad you help him eat and didn't just have him put down.
Might sound awful of me but if I was a spider I’d rather die than have to live you know 20 years like that
It wasn't able to eat, meaning it would die in a couple of of months from starvation.
Doubt it would've been able to get out of its egg, so it may die in there as well.
Most spiders in with this bad of a wobble or twist are normally euthanized pretty early on "luckily"
lunarsnek _217 yeah I meant them I believe jay has a couple spiders on his website
@@asherwitherup7476 the only big reptile person supporting spiders is Brian and maybe Jay but Jay normally sticks with his retics
My crush: hi
What I want to say: hi
My brains reaction:
I'm a piece of shit cuz that was a little funny...😔🤣
That's so sad, I know it's just a snake but dang that pulled on my heartstrings 😢
Me: God my back hurts
My sitting positions:
Poor snake,poor mouse too, lil guys probably terrified
@pots and pans it happens lol, you can't take away their eating source just because you think that killing that mouse is wrong.
@pots and pans yes, yes it is
Karan- "my child is PERFECT"
There child- ...
🤣😂
Its *"Karen"*
@@Korvidcore how do you know he’s not talking about someone he knows?
@@abumwiththedrip because they obviously are talking about Karen, the meme star
Aww poor baby im a owner of a ball python and it breaks my heart how much its struggling :(
That’s so sad that’s a gorgeous snake man. I feel so bad for it
The mouse be like should I help you?🥺
I know what it feels like to be hungry, but look at that cute little poor mouse. He or she is not bothering but trying to hide.
This is hard to watch from both the fact of the neurological issues with the snake and knowing that cute little mouse is dinner 💔😫
Bruh I’m watching this with my mouse this is his face 😧 he lookd at me I’m gonna apologize for showing him btw his name is Bonbon
Poor baby :( I’m glad you’re giving him the tender love and patience he needs, hope he lives a more comfortable life with you. As comfortable as he can get.
I like how the mouse does not give a crap that he is going to be eaten
Poor thing. This is the reason I hate the spider gene.
This is like one of them dreams where you get so close to running but slip everytime..
Brain: now move to the right
Muscle: signal received moving to the left
Brain: No No Nah.... right
Rat: --------🥺
Mouse be like : don’t do drugs y’all
U kinda wrong of that ngl
Wow just wow.
It's sad to see certain ball pythons with neurological issues I guess that's why they stopped or trying to stop the breeding of the spider ball or pinstripe I think I don't remember not a big ball python person I like my Bloods
Me when the cold water touches my back
But the mouse just be chillin
Mouse: sooooooo um u ok man?
So sad. Imagine if your quality of life was so low that you couldn’t even feed yourself if you tried.
Mouse was like "I deserve a better death" lol😂
The mouse is like: “take ur time bro”
This makes me so sad to see :(
Savanna Rider me too. I was hoping to be able to help it but it didn’t survive.
Same :(
I thought he had a ton of kinks down his back for a second there 😰
nope, I've had kinked babies in the rescue many times. This was simply a lack of brain function (neurological issues)
ToddTheSnakeMan happens to the best of them, it’s sad when the kinks are so severe that you have to put them down
•{lgbt} {Safe place}• yes. I get in all kinds now. Some I can save, some I can’t. But I do my best for all of them
@@reallywoodenspoon1 But it wasn't kinks
HE’S TRYING HIS BEST OKAY
Bless your patience in helping this little dude out 🐍
He probably breed him.....
Mouse: *confusion*
I think those particular morphs of the pythons have neurological issues.
Its the spider gene.
I love how the mouse sniffed the snaked when is got close to it
I was actually more scared for the snake
then the mouse
Awh , That mouse was kinda cute :> she looked like my old one
Look guys hes trying his best and im proud of him he got so close and yall hatin on him
hey joot
He’s like this because of stupid humans it didn’t have to be this way but people like pretty things better than healthy ones
People need to use their heads not their money hungry part
I feel so bad for that snake. He's trying his best but can't get it. I hope he manages to get his meals soon enough
For everyone saying “spider this” “spider that” it’s not just the “spider gene” that does this. It’s a mix of other genes at play with the spider, that can lead to severe neurological disorders, and mostly being all fatal shortly after being hatched. Husbandry, care, etc. all also play big parts in keeping your ball python from being stressed. My spider ball pythons I have, are all okay. The ones I have rescued showed more distress due to the husbandry they were provided with before. Now most all are doing perfect, with some others getting more TLC. Please do some research first about them before shaming an animal you’ve never worked with.🤷🏽♂️
I like how the rat doesnt care, still made me sad tho
Its a mouse.
My heart breaks when I see these pythons. The poor babies
The Mouse : "What are you waiting for? Eat me already. End my suffering". :(
The Snake : "I'm trying bro" 🤣🤣🤣
The snake:GIMME DEM CHEECKS BOI
The mouse:you aight u look hungry bro u want some cheese
Snake: 🥴
Mouse: *Frien?*
Nooooo I don’t wanna see a snake attempt to eat a mouse.😢I still feel bad for the snake though.
Since I have 2 neurological disorders I can safely say: me as a snake
Reminds me of me, neurodivergent and just trying to survive lol
In all seriousness tho I feel really bad for that snake... it would really suck if you couldn’t move properly and that caused you to be unable to eat... poor guy :(
Such a beautiful snake. I wish that it could tell you if they are in pain or not. I dont think I could 0watch him struggle to eat. Does he do this whenever hes not eating?
She pretty much had no motor skills. This was a test, after 3 weeks and 2 forced feedings.
@@ToddTheSnakeMan damn man, that sucks, poor snake. Such a pretty snake too. I don't know much about the health part. But I have to wonder if it would be more humane to euthanize him. The only way that I would say not to, that's if he's not in any kind of pain. He looks like he is in the short video. I love animals more than I probably should. I raised an Alligator for 22 years and about 11ft ago and about 474lbs ago. I had him since he popped his little head out of the egg. It was very hard for me to donate him to a Zoo. But with my health where it is and how stupid hard it is for me to walk 50ft. He had a clean bill of health from the Zoo's veterinarian. I never seen him get sick or not want to eat. My boy Rex died 3 months after I moved him. That broke my heart and I never thought that I'd get attached to a gator. But I was wrong, cuz he was such a great animal and in the 22yrs of me having him, he probably only wanted to bite me 3 times. Once when I tried to ride on his back in the pond, then once he crawled under my shed and me dragging his but out by the tail and last, trying to get in between him and the neighbors dog. I was able to stop him that time and I warned the neighbors that he was climbing over my fence. They didn't care and Rex didn't mind eating him a couple months later. Lol. Anyway have a great day man and let me know what you end up having to do with him. Thanks.
Jason Webb this was the final test of her abilities. She was euthanized not long after this video was taken. At least the barking was done 🤷♂️.
@@ToddTheSnakeMan
Thank you for letting me know. I know it's hard to say anything like that on RUclips. But I am definitely hitting the sub. And yes, no more barking.
aww poor thing, give em a little blanket and a pillow. a nap solves everyone's problems.
Nobody:
Serpent: ⬆️↗️➡️🔃↘️⤴️↔️↖️🔄↩⤵️↪
Mouse : what are you doing step-snake?
Lemme guess he has spider in him😐
Your guess is correct
Me trying to find my room in the dark
Just to repeat some others here; this is a genetic thing that cannot be bred out and vets can't cure. We don't know why this happens to this gene line and we in the herp community are still trying to figure this out.
When your prey is in front of you, *but you're being preyed by a neurological disorder*
He's so frustrated poor baby probably a spider gene😭😭😭😭I'm sorry he had to go.
It's almost as if me playing counter strike with reverse arrow keys.
I have had issues like this with some of my own snakes in the past. An old friend of mine had a snake like this too... And he was so impatient and aggravated by it. Thank you so much for maintaining composure and treating these snakes with kindness, patience, and a gentle manner. You are a good snake owner.
Thank you, I do my best for all of them
The mouse would be like "I'll be praying for your fast recovery so pls don't hurt me."
When u set ur sensitivity to the max on a game
Snake: hOomAn hOwS dO I HuNt
Mouse:can I leave I'm tired of dis crap
Snake:I'll be with u in a sec
Mouse:im out
This breed is called the spider gene and the movement of the head is called the head wobble and it are usually runs in the spider gene
No spider in this animal. It has woma not spider. Nothing in the gene combination should have the neurological issues commonly referred to as wobble. It is a 5 gene animal.
@@ToddTheSnakeMan oh ok ig i don’t know my information then
@@LiveRichNotBroke very similar pattern reducing gene, but woma has never really caught on. Spider is much more prominent
Poor baby. I just hate that he has to live like that. At least you are properly taking care of him.
Me about 3 months ago: GET ITTT THE SNAKES SO CUTE
Me now that I have rodents as pets: NO THE BABY MOUSE IS SO CUTE GO AWAY SNAKE
why is this in my recommended
No man I'm a snake lover I've had a few but it just needs to be put down
football legends He replied to another comment and said the snake was euthanized not long after the video was made
@@thatstheteasis8721 ok
Mouse: Wth heck are you doing? Arent you gonna eat me?
Thank you for educating people about this. This quick video can actually do a lot. This neurological disorder is commonly found in the spider morph. I believe it is called corkscrewing when they actually do the movement (feel free to correct me if I’m wrong about what it’s called)
this made my heart break, and the worst thing is that people breed these snakes for money and I'm not lying when I say this made my cry
Tried turning Inverted Controls off?
That’s so adorable and I’m watching this sitting next to my pet mouse cage 🤭
We have a kingsnake at our rescue with pretty bad neurological issues, though he’s not as bad as this poor guy. Thank you for giving him a chance❤️ it takes a lot of patience to care for animals with neuro issues
I had one that had pretty bad wobble when I first got her as a baby, and it continued to get worse and worse... ended up dying on me.... I personally think people should stop breeding spiders!! But, that's just me...
That mouse: pls don’t eat me
The snake: ahhhhrahhhhhAaaaRaHaaaaaaahhhhhhhh
mouse: it's morphing, time saber tooth tiger
The mouse is like I'm ready take me the snake is like AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH HELP ME GOSH DARNIT
At least ur helping him out alot ppl don't understand spider ball pythons
Bit Psycho This snake was euthanized. Spider ball pythons shouldn’t be bred.
@@arnicamoana7861 ik
It seems like theres anither problem with this snake o.o
Like the wobble is very very bad but is it me or his body looks stiff/deformed??
I agree. It's hard to tell if it's just neurological or if there is spinal kinking.
it was a new born, and it did seem to be longer, and thinner than most. Might had had other issues, bedsides just the neurological
He’s trying his best
3 years ago I would have started a crusade against snake breeders