@@godswill2260 i was bullied and had access to guns and never said shit like that. one day at school he started shit with me again. i was fed up, so i fought him and kicked his ass till the teacher came in. bully pussyed out after that. thats what should happen instead of the shootings.
masashake86 again your taking about a kid playing video games cross over into plain talk while playing the game. The cop isn’t being very objective. censorship is BS. What did he write down?... or Was it said it online while playing a video game? Your talking about something completely different. A bully who does and one who speaks. Two different things These cops are taking about “minority report” This is censorship and that is all.
@@usmc7271 I'd disown my son right then and there if he ever made any claim that he was going to go to school and kill a bunch of defenseless children.
Teach your son then don’t baby him for misbehaving. Literally threats need to be taken seriously. Sorry to say 15 isn’t a little boy cause there has been younger kids then 15 killing others.
@@angieCity90 I thought one set of parents was killed by one of the shooters before the shooting so they probably didn't even see it coming. And the mother of the other has gone on record stating in her book "A Mother's Reckoning" she states that she became aware that she raised a murderer. She is also quoted "As a mother, this was the most difficult prayer I had spoken ... the greatest mercy I could pray for was ... his death"
@@SMG_Wizard I think you may be thinking of sandyhook. But yeah you are exactly right about Klebold's mom. I believe she said that after the fact. The first initial thought was concern that he may have been harmed. Harris's dad straight up called the police saying I think my son did it
It's seriously parents like which create these situations. There's no way that there aren't signs that your child is going to snap. They've said or done something that should set off alarm bells. I'm reminded of a recent story about a grandmother in which her grandson told her he'd bought an AK47 and was planning to commit a mass murder and then take his own life. She managed to convince him to go to a hospital to get help. When officers went to his hotel room they found the gun he'd said that he bought along with 17 magazines. If that grandmother didn't take what he said seriously there's little doubt that a lot of people would've lost their lives. The "It's just a joke, bro" shit doesn't work when it comes to threatening to commit mass murder.
If they really wanted to do the right thing, they would string him up on one of those trees and save the taxpayer and innocent civilians a whole lot of issues this little shit would cause in the future.
I'm a retired teacher. i have seen SO many parents who are willing to believe any number of horrible things that a student or child is accused of, but then they will claim that "MY kid would NEVER do anything like that -- I guarantee that. I know my own kid and he/she isn't like that."
She's just very emotional and confused about the situation and is panicking because she doesn't want to see her kid go to prison. Your brain does almost shutdown like that when you're panicking and emotional and don't entirely know what's going on or going to happen, essentially, her brain's overloaded and sh can't form coherent thoughts.
"My son wouldn't do that, even though he did that. but you should make an exception for my son and exempt him from consequences because I said so." The patience of these officers is exceptional.
Gee, I wonder where her son gets his sense of entitlement and why he feels perfectly okay with posting explicit threats of terrorism online? "It's everyone else's fault!" 🤔
@@jewelkingzy1625 it's not entitlement it's stupidity. He didn't think of the consequences of him posting what he did and now is realizing how serious it actually is.
@@advancedlamb yeah try to go outside and say a 'simple sentence' to a couple random people about intent to murder'em. See what happens with your little plea to justify shit.
@@advancedlamb A lot of the shootings were posted like this before they actually happened, too. I'd rather see them actively going after these kids, because even if for every 10 kids they take it, maybe 9 were just joking, that one that wasn't? Well they may have just saved some lives by getting to that one in time.
@ To say some one or something SHOULD be is much different than saying I am going to do something . That is the line were it becomes a THREAT to do harm and you forfeit Free speech.
“He’s just a little boy” ma’am who do you think is doing the school shootings? Adults? It’s not “just a silly statement”. It’s silly to you until he actually does it
Yeah I gotta agree. I get why she's upset. She's a mother, that's her son. The response, logical or not, is understandable. That being said, with all the shootings lately this kinda shit doesn't fly anymore. If you want to prevent things like this, you keep a tighter reign on your kid. It is what it is.
I gotta agree as well (conservative and a gun supporter) but by his age i had learned not to say stuff like that. At 7 i got on a plane and was told by my parents.....dont you dare make a joke about guns or bombs. Its not funny. How do we know he wont do it? After all these shootings everyone says "he made a statement on social media and no one looked into it."
Unless he was diagnosed with autism, or something on that level, there is NO way a fucking 15 year old doesn't know how serious saying something like that is. There's just no way. Yes, teenagers have terrible impulse control and all that, but the vast majority of fifteen year olds would immediately understand how serious saying something like this was, no matter what the context.
"anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of law" Any good lawyer will tell you to not say a word to the cops regardless of whether you are guilty or not. To assume he's quiet because he doesn't want to deny those statements is foolhardy, and besides we don't know what he said before the video started.
Too quiet? If he said much of anything these fascist pigs would not hesitate to torture and murder him and his mother because they "feared for their lives." He said way too much and so did his mother. NEVER TALK TO THE COPS. ruclips.net/video/d-7o9xYp7eE/видео.html
@@rapaciousinterloper4725 Holy shit. You're psychotic. Those "fascists pigs" are doing their job. You know damn well making a terrorist threat, especially this clearly, is not okay. Wtf do you expect to happen?
@@mattm6113 And the fascist Nazis in WWII were just doing their jobs. I'll put these fascist pigs in the same category. What do I expect to happen? I expect an honest investigation to determine if the kid was actually a threat, since there is an almost 0% chance that he was a threat. You know, ask some questions and explain why hyperbolic statements are worrisome. Not this storm trooper bullshit that just ruined this kid's life.
Oh garaunteed. Clearly psychologically coddled to the point of suffocation whether he was joking or not, those thoughts probably crossed his mind with a mother like that
@@ceuti You mean selectively coddled? This woman screams "I spend most of my time glued to my smartphone until the child inconveniences me, then I go full ham", poor kid, never had a chance..
@@XxMobileWizXx Freedom of speech doesn't protect you from making threats or causing havoc. It's essentially the same as not being able to yell fire or bomb in a crowded place, it'll cause panic and you'll be charged with disturbance of the peace.
@pikachu pikachu lol to disturbing the peace. It was a joke. People say stuff like that all the time like "People who don't tip need to be to be hanged lol" Or "Haha someone should smack you for saying that dumb shit" See what I mean? pretty soon we won't be able to criticize people because hurting feelings is "disturbing the peace" Every day this country is becoming more like north Korea or China. Do you really want to live in a country where have to worry about what we say in among friends online? The internet I grew up on was free. It was like the wild west. You could say what ever you wanted.The most craziest shit you could think of and it was fine. No one cared. There was no fear of anyone coming to arrest you. I don't want the youth to be deprived of that liberty.
@@XxMobileWizXx well what this kid is not something you want to say consider there have been multiple mass shooting recently along with others prevented. Freedom is speech does not mean your allowed to say whatever the fuck you want whenever. Why do you think people get charged for making threats. You can't just say oh freedom of speech or I didn't mean it.
What would be a logical response from the mother according to you? yeah sure arrest my very young son and charge him with a third degree felony ruining his future for making a joke online. I just can't with YOU.
Rocket__ for real? She should be freaking out...at her son! Not at the police who are doing their jobs. People need to learn that if you f**k up in life there are consequences. Nevermind that we (including the mom) have no idea if this kid actually intended to make good on his threats.
@@trinabina3900 Yes i completely understand that, but you are arguing something i didnt say. I explained the mothers POV. Which right or wrong is completely understandable. A mother would die for her die any day of the week.
Rocket, remember that viral video of the black mother chasing her son and slapping the crap out of him when he was just having a little fun with his friends at the demonstration? Something like THAT would be a more logical response from the mother.
@Godwottery: If I’d done something stupid like that, as a teenager, I’d be running TO the police, begging to be put behind bars, just to get away from my parents! They’d be so furious, they’d knock me into next week for pulling a stunt like that.
What about recent events or Jones about assassinating the President. None of those high profile leftist fuck stains got a felony charge. Your out of your depth on this one.
You know she would be the parent that would be livid..absolutely livid if the police didnt do this to another kid that ended up going to school and following through with what they said and treated it as a kid making a joke. Wants an exception for her child...like OK Karen..be a better parent..
These police did a very admirable job being calm, explaining the situation, and even showing some empathy. They easily could have just dragged him away. I understand and feel for the mother, and all of the mothers whose sons turned out to be monsters.
@@richardshiflett5181 Who says they aren't of Middle Eastern decent? There are many M.E. people with fair skin and light colored eyes. Also, who know or cares? I was complimenting them on what they did in that particular situation.
The punishment for this is severe but appropriate, the kid isn't going to jail for life. With no history he will plead to a lesser charge and spend a few years under state supervision. Every parent of a mass shooter would have had the same argument, "not my kid." The truth is, no teenager should have immediate and unsupervised access to a gun. Take them to the shooting range, go hunting, I am in full support of using a gun. But a teenagers judgement and understanding of consequences are severely skewed, they shouldn't be given the responsibility and power that a gun bestows.
There are lots of toxic communities where mass shootings, nazism, misogyny, etc is all one big edgy joke. The mom and kid aren't wrong, there is an entire subculture of the population out there that does the same thing this kid did.
That woman makes me sick. It’s parents like her that let awful things happen because they let these kids grow up like weeds, without any discipline. They turn a blind eye, make excuses for everything the kid does and refuse to step up and be the adult in the house. If she “hates” the game so much, she should have taken it from him a long time ago. Being a parent means that you have to say no, sometimes. Seriously, she needs some sense. The cops really didn’t need to take so long talking to her. She understands English. They explained the charges. Haul the kid off, end of story. Also, part of me suspects that if that had been a Black or Latino boy, instead of scrawny white one, he would have been shoved to the ground by SWAT and dragged away through the dirt. I suppose, though, they wanted an extended exchange on video as a warning to other numbskull parents out there.
Schenck v. United States, 249 U.S. 47 (1919) "If speech is intended to result in a crime, and there is a clear and present danger that it actually will result in a crime, the First Amendment does not protect the speaker from government action." i.e. Freedom of speech does not include the right to incite actions that would harm others. Just leaving this here for everyone who seems to think the Freedom of Speech is absolute and inviolable.
More like its time for this kid to make an example out of these pigs and ambush them when he gets out. I hope he does. They deserve it. FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
@@ripnujabes21 Sure, that's exactly how fascists treat human beings who have the audacity to express their 1st amendment right of free speech. Why do you hate freedom of speech? Why do you hate the constitution? Why do you hate America?
I can appreciate how traumatising this must be for the mother but she's going about reasoning with the cops ALL wrong and it's infuriating. Any mother would say exactly what she's saying, even if there son WAS a shooter. Standing there and claiming that he's a 'child' and 'he would never do that' is redundant. Fucking maddening.
Ma'am I enforce the law. It doesnt matter to me the age of the person breaking the law or if they were playing a game while breaking the law because I simply arrest anyone breaking the law. And I'd it was you kid going to this school and another kid making that threat you'd be demanding for me to do what I'm currently doing: enforce the law and protect the lives of children. If you have an issue with this arrest I suggest taking it up with your son for breaking the law, and not me for refusing to ignore a death threat directed at children.
I'm glad they are making an example out of this kid. Ironically this experience will probably help this kid in the long run. Mom doesn't seem that surprised her son was talking like that so maybe the kid needs to learn boundaries somewhere else for a bit since they aren't being set in the home.
"He's just a little boy" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Andrew_Williams Yes, clearly. There isn't a literal case of a 15 year old mass shooter anywhere in history. Or adolescent children that kill due to complacent parents. Thank you to this Sheriff's Office. I don't know how you all remained so calm with this oblivious woman.
Was his fathers gun locked up? I will say that parents should be charged with murder if their deranged kids have access to their guns and use them to commit mass murder. The guns need to be in a safe. Period.
We need to put fathers back in homes. This kid is getting the dad treatment for sure. Sadly he is getting the dad treatment from the law. Sad but glad our law enforcement is protecting the community.
I wonder how that mom would’ve felt if it was another kid who made that statement online and the FBI did nothing even though they knew about it and then that kid shot up her kid’s school. Whether it was just a joke or not, I can guarantee most school shooters’ parents would never in a million years expect their kids to do something like it.
He's a good boy, he didn't do nothing. Oh please... he's 15. He knows what that written threat meant. Even if he was just joking, it's not something to be joked about. It's a very serious offense to say that.
Wow, he is not a little boy. You make the threat, you face the consequences. Too bad you didn’t teach him that a long time ago. Are you still nursing him too??
I 100% agree with the officers, but as a kid back in 08, I said the dumbest shit oN Halo and probably at some point joked about the wrong things. When you're 12 you don't think. They could've given him a warning. I do understand the culture is different now and like the officer said, you can't risk that they aren't going to do anything.
"It's not my son" until it is. It's just a joke, until it isn't. If people brush those types of comments off as jokes it creates an environment where someone can say that shit and be totally serious and nobody will do anything because "oh that dude's just memeing lolz" 'til you see him at school the next day and find out he wasn't.
That 15 year old “little boy” has no discipline from his mother. If police have to teach a parent how to discipline a child, you know that there’s something seriously wrong. That mother should also be held accountable for letting her child do anything he wants. She has no idea what he is doing, and neither does she care. I learned a huge lesson from this when it comes to raising a child someday. With my discipline if I was a parent then my kid would know not to do this stuff, yet she is in denial because she clearly can’t raise children properly.
What kind of parent just immediately tries to downplay their kid making terroristic threats? He explicitly threatened to mass murder kids at school, and provided a plan for how he would do it--the mom even admitted he had access to their guns. I don't care if it's "a joke" or not, law enforcement was right to take it seriously. I'm surprised they're only charging him as. a juvenile. This issue is currently being discussed as part of gun control legislation, specifically whether or not juvenile records (which are typically sealed) should be included in firearm background checks. Should a teenager who was convicted of explicitly threatened to commit a mass shooting, be legally allowed to purchase firearms when he turns 18? Or should that be included on his background check and make him ineligible to own firearms? That's a debate for our legislators, but this is definitely not a minor offense. This kid needs a reality check and some better parenting.
"I'm surprised they're only charging him as. a juvenile." If his teacher had sex with him he would be considered a child, but in this instance, fascists like you think he is an adult. Nice double standard.
@@rapaciousinterloper4725 lol, you're trolling every comment on here, why so mad? Literally no one was raped here, so calm down. The only one making that false equivalency here is you.
I genuinely dont see the reason for the hatred in the comments. She was emotional but didnt lose her head. The kid was well behaved and although it's unlikely he would have acted on those threats he was respectful. I see nothing surprising or shocking about this. I hope the kid learns a lesson.
Yep. The mother should have just shut up and called a lawyer. It will be expensive but they can get a decent outcome probably without any jail time and his record cleared as long as he behaves until he is 18.
It all starts with a thought, then a comment, then an action. For some reason this kid was thinking about it. None of us know who it will be and we can’t take the chances. Good life lesson for the kid and hopefully it stops here. Good job by the law enforcement.
I understand why she's distraught and obviously attached to her son. But if we switch roles and say another boy from his class for example, made that statement and there were no repercussions because it was just a joke, she would be on a knifes edge sending her son to school and wouldn't pay any attention to the other kids mother saying the same stuff she was.
She should've been trying to knock his head off his shoulders. Instead she's standing there defending his effd up behavior. And the young man was dead silent the entire time. That speaks volumes. He didn't even profess his innocence.
I've heard that so many times "not my child". Then.when something does happen, they're in utter disbelief. The fact she owns a.gun too makes it all the more real. I truly hope she keeps that locked.away.and.out of his.reach cause lady its not a joke .people are literall
Oh I've met one of these parents. Even after her kid did something horrible. She cried, screamed and raged that it wasn't her sweet boy. Claimed that the security footage from the school and the statements of everyone that witnessed it were all lies. Thankfully what her kid did didn't cost anyone their lives. He "joked" for two weeks that he was going to cause chaos and make all the "idiots" that he went to school with pay. So he got a bunch of pepper spray and smoke bombs. Threw lit smoke bombs all over the school foyer. Then when all the students and teachers came out he ran through the crowd spraying pepper spray in all directions. But, her sweet little boy would never do that. Not in a million years. And the respirator he was wearing, the cans of pepper spray and the smoke bombs were all planted on him in some crazy plot that was put together by the police, school and his fellow students. 🤦♀
i love the part the mum breaks down when she realised she done fucked up by raising a little shit, follows it up by crying out "he's just a little boy he didn't do anything wrong". Lol, yes he is a little boy aka a minor but they literally just explained to you what he did constitutes a 2nd or 3rd degree felony
I think it's weird how there seems to be jump cuts here and there in the footage posted by the sherriffs office. Like show the uncut footage if you are trying to convince me of something.
@Kevin Tucker A felony will ruin this kids life from being able to get a job and having a productive life! This will clearly set him up for a criminal life to make ends meet. Don't you think there should be guidelines for the kid to read about the repercussions for his actions? I would imagine he should have his account suspended from being able to play his game live and the police should have something in place to do a welfare check and YES some kind of accountability for his actions. How about therapy and juvenile detention. The executive brain is still developing until early 20's! There should be more in place to help then to criminally prosecute!
@Kevin Tucker So again my question is does this kid deserve of felony? The kid probably doesn't even know what a felony is or what it will mean for the rest of his life!
@Kevin Tucker Okay, thanks for your thoughts. I am so concerned for these kids and people are so quick to make fun of his Mom! Whatever happened to the saying "it takes a village".... Maybe these kids would feel better about the world if we all could be a little more concerned about them and their future.
Well. I think the right thing was done here. Also interesting to see the kid not say anything or move. He seemed unphased and distant (but the blur could have caused that interpretation for me). Sociopath?
good thing this kid got arrested... you never know how empty those threats may NOT be. i wish i could say i feel for the mom because she’s protecting her baby, but in the end, it’s the law and i sincerely agree with it... anything to make schools safer. edit: i rephrased some things to make it flow better and seperated each point. :)
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"He would never do anything like that" Said every parent of a mass shooter ever.
I'd like to hear his classmates opinions of him, this would tell you everything you need to know..
Christian Felix not very objective. Kids in school don’t know shit and can be very harsh.
@@godswill2260 i was bullied and had access to guns and never said shit like that. one day at school he started shit with me again. i was fed up, so i fought him and kicked his ass till the teacher came in. bully pussyed out after that. thats what should happen instead of the shootings.
masashake86 again your taking about a kid playing video games cross over into plain talk while playing the game. The cop isn’t being very objective. censorship is BS. What did he write down?... or
Was it said it online while playing a video game? Your talking about something completely different. A bully who does and one who speaks. Two different things
These cops are taking about “minority report”
This is censorship and that is all.
Kate M.hunter wow...
He literally said he was going to kill people . Like a whole ass written statement, and she’s defending ..
America...
@@RomLichs That's a lot of moms all over, not just America.
She's his mother... of course she's going to defend regardless of what he did..
@@usmc7271 I'd disown my son right then and there if he ever made any claim that he was going to go to school and kill a bunch of defenseless children.
@@camptull6211 that makes you a piece of shit.
Teach your son then don’t baby him for misbehaving. Literally threats need to be taken seriously. Sorry to say 15 isn’t a little boy cause there has been younger kids then 15 killing others.
I agree with you 100%. And thank you for saying what I was thinking!
Every mother says "not my son" but honey, it is your son, it's always someone's son/daughter.
Exactly. The parents of the columbine shooters thought the same thing
@@angieCity90
I thought one set of parents was killed by one of the shooters before the shooting so they probably didn't even see it coming. And the mother of the other has gone on record stating in her book "A Mother's Reckoning" she states that she became aware that she raised a murderer. She is also quoted "As a mother, this was the most difficult prayer I had spoken ... the greatest mercy I could pray for was ... his death"
@@SMG_Wizard I think you may be thinking of sandyhook. But yeah you are exactly right about Klebold's mom. I believe she said that after the fact. The first initial thought was concern that he may have been harmed. Harris's dad straight up called the police saying I think my son did it
Odds are she's super religious
It's seriously parents like which create these situations. There's no way that there aren't signs that your child is going to snap. They've said or done something that should set off alarm bells. I'm reminded of a recent story about a grandmother in which her grandson told her he'd bought an AK47 and was planning to commit a mass murder and then take his own life. She managed to convince him to go to a hospital to get help. When officers went to his hotel room they found the gun he'd said that he bought along with 17 magazines. If that grandmother didn't take what he said seriously there's little doubt that a lot of people would've lost their lives.
The "It's just a joke, bro" shit doesn't work when it comes to threatening to commit mass murder.
the officer explained the situation perfectly.
The FBI agent*
@@DeeSnutts how do you know it's the FBI agent ? Legally he's still an LEO
Her parenting skills speaks volumes for why the police did the right thing.
How does the video tell you anything about her parenting skills though?
@@runner9528 Because instead of slapping her kid upside the head she'd defending his horrible behaviour.
If they really wanted to do the right thing, they would string him up on one of those trees and save the taxpayer and innocent civilians a whole lot of issues this little shit would cause in the future.
@@angrykermit3192 He's getting arrested. The situation is beyond her control at this point. Doesn't mean she won't reprimand him if he gets released.
@ i can prove it
Huge hats off to the officers on scene. They remained calm and answered to an active thread, which sadly in America cannot be taken lightly.
Freedom of speech does not cover threats of terrorism LADY!
I'm a retired teacher. i have seen SO many parents who are willing to believe any number of horrible things that a student or child is accused of, but then they will claim that "MY kid would NEVER do anything like that -- I guarantee that. I know my own kid and he/she isn't like that."
"But he's not people, he's a child. There is a difference"
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Kid must be having a real eye opening experience realizing his own mother doesn't see him as a viable person
She's just very emotional and confused about the situation and is panicking because she doesn't want to see her kid go to prison. Your brain does almost shutdown like that when you're panicking and emotional and don't entirely know what's going on or going to happen, essentially, her brain's overloaded and sh can't form coherent thoughts.
He's a devil.
"My son wouldn't do that, even though he did that. but you should make an exception for my son and exempt him from consequences because I said so." The patience of these officers is exceptional.
The "Oh not my kid mentality" is actually pretty dangerous.
They were so patient because the family was white.
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Good job law enforcement! Time to figure some things out mom instead of blaming everyone else.
She believes only those brown kids can be terrorists. Not her lil "angel". Fox News told her.
Agreed, 15 is not "a little boy"
Pfft, she blames the adults in a game RATED FOR ADULTS for "goading" him into saying it.
How do you know the game? Fortnite is rated teen. Could have been Minecraft for all we know.
Gee, I wonder where her son gets his sense of entitlement and why he feels perfectly okay with posting explicit threats of terrorism online? "It's everyone else's fault!" 🤔
@@jewelkingzy1625 it's not entitlement it's stupidity. He didn't think of the consequences of him posting what he did and now is realizing how serious it actually is.
@@johnr.21 in other words: He's only sorry he got caught and now has to face the consequences of his own actions.
Well if hes your son, and you hate the game, then why did you let him play the game
Fact is, like the cop said, "He did what he did"
All he did was say words so uh, kinda need more than just a simple sentence to justify shit
@@advancedlamb yeah try to go outside and say a 'simple sentence' to a couple random people about intent to murder'em. See what happens with your little plea to justify shit.
@@advancedlamb A lot of the shootings were posted like this before they actually happened, too. I'd rather see them actively going after these kids, because even if for every 10 kids they take it, maybe 9 were just joking, that one that wasn't? Well they may have just saved some lives by getting to that one in time.
@ To say some one or something SHOULD be is much different than saying I am going to do something . That is the line were it becomes a THREAT to do harm and you forfeit Free speech.
“He’s just a little boy” ma’am who do you think is doing the school shootings? Adults? It’s not “just a silly statement”. It’s silly to you until he actually does it
The parents always say "not my son!" Lady, look at the world you live in and teach your kid better.
What would u say? Take him he deserves to rot in prison?
I understand the mother's anguish; but making threats like that, intended as a joke or not, is very serious.
Yeah I gotta agree. I get why she's upset. She's a mother, that's her son. The response, logical or not, is understandable. That being said, with all the shootings lately this kinda shit doesn't fly anymore. If you want to prevent things like this, you keep a tighter reign on your kid. It is what it is.
I gotta agree as well (conservative and a gun supporter) but by his age i had learned not to say stuff like that. At 7 i got on a plane and was told by my parents.....dont you dare make a joke about guns or bombs. Its not funny. How do we know he wont do it? After all these shootings everyone says "he made a statement on social media and no one looked into it."
It’s not a threat. At what point does freedom of speech come into play.
Freedom of speech does not mean you can make threats to harm people.
Unless he was diagnosed with autism, or something on that level, there is NO way a fucking 15 year old doesn't know how serious saying something like that is. There's just no way. Yes, teenagers have terrible impulse control and all that, but the vast majority of fifteen year olds would immediately understand how serious saying something like this was, no matter what the context.
That kid is too quiet. Like he's not even denying those weren't his intentions
He probably wanted to get caught, it was the only way he could think of to get help for his issues.
"anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of law"
Any good lawyer will tell you to not say a word to the cops regardless of whether you are guilty or not. To assume he's quiet because he doesn't want to deny those statements is foolhardy, and besides we don't know what he said before the video started.
Too quiet? If he said much of anything these fascist pigs would not hesitate to torture and murder him and his mother because they "feared for their lives." He said way too much and so did his mother. NEVER TALK TO THE COPS. ruclips.net/video/d-7o9xYp7eE/видео.html
@@rapaciousinterloper4725 Holy shit. You're psychotic. Those "fascists pigs" are doing their job. You know damn well making a terrorist threat, especially this clearly, is not okay. Wtf do you expect to happen?
@@mattm6113 And the fascist Nazis in WWII were just doing their jobs. I'll put these fascist pigs in the same category. What do I expect to happen? I expect an honest investigation to determine if the kid was actually a threat, since there is an almost 0% chance that he was a threat. You know, ask some questions and explain why hyperbolic statements are worrisome. Not this storm trooper bullshit that just ruined this kid's life.
She's probably part of his anger towards people.
Oh garaunteed. Clearly psychologically coddled to the point of suffocation whether he was joking or not, those thoughts probably crossed his mind with a mother like that
@@ceuti You mean selectively coddled? This woman screams "I spend most of my time glued to my smartphone until the child inconveniences me, then I go full ham", poor kid, never had a chance..
@@christianfelix1580 true that
"It's my little boy so he s no criminal."
Some much ego from this parent is destroying the very meaning of the child.
Wow...parent displaying the wrong response to the situation.
When I was 15 I said alot of things online. Thats what kids do. What ever happened to freedom of speech.
@@XxMobileWizXx Freedom of speech doesn't protect you from making threats or causing havoc. It's essentially the same as not being able to yell fire or bomb in a crowded place, it'll cause panic and you'll be charged with disturbance of the peace.
@pikachu pikachu lol to disturbing the peace. It was a joke. People say stuff like that all the time like
"People who don't tip need to be to be hanged lol"
Or
"Haha someone should smack you for saying that dumb shit"
See what I mean? pretty soon we won't be able to criticize people because hurting feelings is "disturbing the peace"
Every day this country is becoming more like north Korea or China. Do you really want to live in a country where have to worry about what we say in among friends online?
The internet I grew up on was free. It was like the wild west. You could say what ever you wanted.The most craziest shit you could think of and it was fine. No one cared. There was no fear of anyone coming to arrest you. I don't want the youth to be deprived of that liberty.
@@XxMobileWizXx well what this kid is not something you want to say consider there have been multiple mass shooting recently along with others prevented. Freedom is speech does not mean your allowed to say whatever the fuck you want whenever. Why do you think people get charged for making threats. You can't just say oh freedom of speech or I didn't mean it.
@@XxMobileWizXx Slippery Slope fallacy
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes!
Comment of the year!!
Mom is definitely part of the problem.
Omg! She is dumb as hell
It's insane this officer needs to elaborate on why the kid is being arrested. This mom...I just can't with her.
What would be a logical response from the mother according to you? yeah sure arrest my very young son and charge him with a third degree felony ruining his future for making a joke online. I just can't with YOU.
Rocket__ for real? She should be freaking out...at her son! Not at the police who are doing their jobs. People need to learn that if you f**k up in life there are consequences. Nevermind that we (including the mom) have no idea if this kid actually intended to make good on his threats.
@@trinabina3900 Yes i completely understand that, but you are arguing something i didnt say. I explained the mothers POV. Which right or wrong is completely understandable. A mother would die for her die any day of the week.
Rocket, remember that viral video of the black mother chasing her son and slapping the crap out of him when he was just having a little fun with his friends at the demonstration? Something like THAT would be a more logical response from the mother.
@Godwottery: If I’d done something stupid like that, as a teenager, I’d be running TO the police, begging to be put behind bars, just to get away from my parents! They’d be so furious, they’d knock me into next week for pulling a stunt like that.
"it's just a joke"
Cool maybe a) he won't make jokes like this anymore and b) you make sure to teach him he shouldn't make those kinds of jokes
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What about recent events or Jones about assassinating the President. None of those high profile leftist fuck stains got a felony charge. Your out of your depth on this one.
You know she would be the parent that would be livid..absolutely livid if the police didnt do this to another kid that ended up going to school and following through with what they said and treated it as a kid making a joke. Wants an exception for her child...like OK Karen..be a better parent..
Parents DONT KNOW. My son has done things as an adult that I never thought my boy would do.
These police did a very admirable job being calm, explaining the situation, and even showing some empathy. They easily could have just dragged him away. I understand and feel for the mother, and all of the mothers whose sons turned out to be monsters.
Well of course because they are all white
Good comment
Would they have been calm if the family was middle eastern in descent?
@@richardshiflett5181 Who says they aren't of Middle Eastern decent? There are many M.E. people with fair skin and light colored eyes. Also, who know or cares? I was complimenting them on what they did in that particular situation.
People need to realise you can't say whatever you want on the internet. You say it, you deal with the repurcussions of it.
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The punishment for this is severe but appropriate, the kid isn't going to jail for life. With no history he will plead to a lesser charge and spend a few years under state supervision.
Every parent of a mass shooter would have had the same argument, "not my kid." The truth is, no teenager should have immediate and unsupervised access to a gun. Take them to the shooting range, go hunting, I am in full support of using a gun. But a teenagers judgement and understanding of consequences are severely skewed, they shouldn't be given the responsibility and power that a gun bestows.
HE DOESN'T SPEAK/TYPE LIKE A LITTLE BOY.
Maybe this mother should have sat down with her son to talk about these mass shootings and how they're not a joke.
@Jose Antonio Because you're a dumbass.
She's a Trump supporter. Why would she do that?
That makes no sense. Did your parents know everything you said on online games? She might have only now found out from the cops showing up.
They are staged events. Wake up. Nobody died at Sandy Hook.
There are lots of toxic communities where mass shootings, nazism, misogyny, etc is all one big edgy joke.
The mom and kid aren't wrong, there is an entire subculture of the population out there that does the same thing this kid did.
You know what they say in the south...”That’ll learn em’”
Lol! Where in the south, I've never heard that before!
Not my son, that's what they all say.
That woman makes me sick. It’s parents like her that let awful things happen because they let these kids grow up like weeds, without any discipline. They turn a blind eye, make excuses for everything the kid does and refuse to step up and be the adult in the house. If she “hates” the game so much, she should have taken it from him a long time ago. Being a parent means that you have to say no, sometimes.
Seriously, she needs some sense.
The cops really didn’t need to take so long talking to her. She understands English. They explained the charges. Haul the kid off, end of story. Also, part of me suspects that if that had been a Black or Latino boy, instead of scrawny white one, he would have been shoved to the ground by SWAT and dragged away through the dirt. I suppose, though, they wanted an extended exchange on video as a warning to other numbskull parents out there.
All the other students at Seabreeze: "Get me outta this school Mom!"
I, Zenn, vow to bring my Xbox over to my friends house and play Viva Piñata for 7 hours at a minimum.
All jokes aside, kid got what he deserved.
God I miss that game.
It's honestly more the mother got what she deserved with those charges to pay off
That mama needs to stop defending that kid for doing wrong and be riding his damn ass for saying it, let alone thinking it!
Schenck v. United States, 249 U.S. 47 (1919)
"If speech is intended to result in a crime, and there is a clear and present danger that it actually will result in a crime, the First Amendment does not protect the speaker from government action." i.e. Freedom of speech does not include the right to incite actions that would harm others. Just leaving this here for everyone who seems to think the Freedom of Speech is absolute and inviolable.
theres only one amendment that literally says "shall not be infringed" and it makes peoples brain fucking explode at the concept
This cop did such a great job. That mother is a nightmare.
Good. Time to make an example out of these kids even if they're joking.
More like its time for this kid to make an example out of these pigs and ambush them when he gets out. I hope he does. They deserve it. FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
@@rapaciousinterloper4725 the cops need to give you a wellness check and put you in an asylum
@@ripnujabes21 Sure, that's exactly how fascists treat human beings who have the audacity to express their 1st amendment right of free speech. Why do you hate freedom of speech? Why do you hate the constitution? Why do you hate America?
@@rapaciousinterloper4725 that does not cover immediate bodily harm threats
@@ripnujabes21 Give me a break. When I was in high school 8 years ago, I said all kinds of "threats" like this. It's just kids being kids.
I can appreciate how traumatising this must be for the mother but she's going about reasoning with the cops ALL wrong and it's infuriating. Any mother would say exactly what she's saying, even if there son WAS a shooter. Standing there and claiming that he's a 'child' and 'he would never do that' is redundant. Fucking maddening.
Finally local and FBI working together to prevent shooters.
Congratulations to the Volusia County Sheriff's Office for doing an excellent job with this.
Ma'am I enforce the law. It doesnt matter to me the age of the person breaking the law or if they were playing a game while breaking the law because I simply arrest anyone breaking the law. And I'd it was you kid going to this school and another kid making that threat you'd be demanding for me to do what I'm currently doing: enforce the law and protect the lives of children. If you have an issue with this arrest I suggest taking it up with your son for breaking the law, and not me for refusing to ignore a death threat directed at children.
"He didnt do nothing wrong!"
At this point I'd call child services if she has other children.
"Not my son. I'd know. Me and my son are like this!"
.....soooooooo you knew he was making death threats .....or maybe you dont know him so well
She should be getting her stuff to go with and calling a lawyer. They can't question him without one.
It's nice to see her crying, instead of parents of dead kids crying.
Also, he should be arrested just for wearing those socks alone.
I'm glad they are making an example out of this kid. Ironically this experience will probably help this kid in the long run. Mom doesn't seem that surprised her son was talking like that so maybe the kid needs to learn boundaries somewhere else for a bit since they aren't being set in the home.
Odds are this is enough to scare the shit out of the kid and he will get a warning, but odds are he is now on a watch list.
"He's just a little boy"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Andrew_Williams
Yes, clearly. There isn't a literal case of a 15 year old mass shooter anywhere in history. Or adolescent children that kill due to complacent parents.
Thank you to this Sheriff's Office. I don't know how you all remained so calm with this oblivious woman.
Not the mom saying my son would never do it while some kids be posting it to the internet and next day end up doing it
Some people would charge him as an adult
Black
Yeah, and if his teacher had sex with him he would be considered a child. Funny how America has that fascist double standard.
He's white. He doesn't have to worry about that. 15 year old black kids are men. 15 year old white kids are just boys being boys.
those people, retards.
Carlos Gutierrez exactly
Was his fathers gun locked up? I will say that parents should be charged with murder if their deranged kids have access to their guns and use them to commit mass murder. The guns need to be in a safe. Period.
Better yet, stop letting these dumbasses own guns at all
He deserved to be arrested & that mom is delusional.
So nobody is going to bring up the kids socks?
Reddit certainly has. They believe this is his real crime
How much further could you possibly bring them up?
Good job officers...
While here in Arizona where an ex friend full on tried to shoot up the school twice was never charged for it
What a joke of a parent.
The police did the right thing here. She may think she knows her child on the surface but who knows what's boiling on the inside.
Mom's in serious denial.
We need to put fathers back in homes. This kid is getting the dad treatment for sure. Sadly he is getting the dad treatment from the law. Sad but glad our law enforcement is protecting the community.
If that was my mom she’ll be making sure my prison sentence is 12 years
She isn’t listening to anything he says
Pleasssssee keep posting this type of content.
I wonder how that mom would’ve felt if it was another kid who made that statement online and the FBI did nothing even though they knew about it and then that kid shot up her kid’s school. Whether it was just a joke or not, I can guarantee most school shooters’ parents would never in a million years expect their kids to do something like it.
The real crime here is those bright socks. No respectable man wears bright socks while thinking up a crime spree.
Everyone commenting about the mother. I'm just sitting here trying to figure out if his legs are real. lmao
How in the hell is he standing? There's no way they can support his body.
😂😂😂
He's a good boy, he didn't do nothing. Oh please... he's 15. He knows what that written threat meant. Even if he was just joking, it's not something to be joked about. It's a very serious offense to say that.
Grade A officer behavior. Hope that kid grows to realize there's a role model standing right there, and it aint his mom.
Well said.
The moms reaction is sad. I'd feel sooo horrible if I made my mom to through that
that mom is pissing me tf off ong
Wow, he is not a little boy. You make the threat, you face the consequences. Too bad you didn’t teach him that a long time ago. Are you still nursing him too??
this Punishment 100% fits the crime, making statements like that is not a joking matter.
I 100% agree with the officers, but as a kid back in 08, I said the dumbest shit oN Halo and probably at some point joked about the wrong things. When you're 12 you don't think. They could've given him a warning. I do understand the culture is different now and like the officer said, you can't risk that they aren't going to do anything.
"It's not my son" until it is. It's just a joke, until it isn't. If people brush those types of comments off as jokes it creates an environment where someone can say that shit and be totally serious and nobody will do anything because "oh that dude's just memeing lolz" 'til you see him at school the next day and find out he wasn't.
That 15 year old “little boy” has no discipline from his mother. If police have to teach a parent how to discipline a child, you know that there’s something seriously wrong. That mother should also be held accountable for letting her child do anything he wants. She has no idea what he is doing, and neither does she care. I learned a huge lesson from this when it comes to raising a child someday. With my discipline if I was a parent then my kid would know not to do this stuff, yet she is in denial because she clearly can’t raise children properly.
The fact that he said this on Minecraft is so much funnier.
Floridaman Jr
Taking that ride already....
Don't skip leg day kids.
Kninja Nate niggas calves legit look like toothpicks
Yomama Bin Fartin Your comments are an example of why he could have shot up a school. Dude probably gets picked on for being underweight.
These parents who do not monitor their own kids behavior online deserve to also be thrown in jail.
I heartily agree!
What kind of parent just immediately tries to downplay their kid making terroristic threats? He explicitly threatened to mass murder kids at school, and provided a plan for how he would do it--the mom even admitted he had access to their guns. I don't care if it's "a joke" or not, law enforcement was right to take it seriously. I'm surprised they're only charging him as. a juvenile.
This issue is currently being discussed as part of gun control legislation, specifically whether or not juvenile records (which are typically sealed) should be included in firearm background checks. Should a teenager who was convicted of explicitly threatened to commit a mass shooting, be legally allowed to purchase firearms when he turns 18? Or should that be included on his background check and make him ineligible to own firearms? That's a debate for our legislators, but this is definitely not a minor offense. This kid needs a reality check and some better parenting.
The kind of parent who has the capacity to know the difference between a bad joke and "terroristic threats", dummy.
"I'm surprised they're only charging him as. a juvenile." If his teacher had sex with him he would be considered a child, but in this instance, fascists like you think he is an adult. Nice double standard.
@@rapaciousinterloper4725 lol, you're trolling every comment on here, why so mad? Literally no one was raped here, so calm down. The only one making that false equivalency here is you.
I genuinely dont see the reason for the hatred in the comments. She was emotional but didnt lose her head.
The kid was well behaved and although it's unlikely he would have acted on those threats he was respectful. I see nothing surprising or shocking about this.
I hope the kid learns a lesson.
Yep. The mother should have just shut up and called a lawyer. It will be expensive but they can get a decent outcome probably without any jail time and his record cleared as long as he behaves until he is 18.
Do you have a gun...a.a.a.a.aaaahhhh yeah... lol. Don't be shouting at the law, turn around and hell at you beloved son...
How ignorant can a mother be? If that was my son hey,take him in & teach him a lesson.
It all starts with a thought, then a comment, then an action. For some reason this kid was thinking about it. None of us know who it will be and we can’t take the chances. Good life lesson for the kid and hopefully it stops here. Good job by the law enforcement.
Michael East no action no crime idiot. Stop being emotional
Tough cookies Mom...this is the world we live in...you, of all people should understand what we all are dealing with...
I understand why she's distraught and obviously attached to her son. But if we switch roles and say another boy from his class for example, made that statement and there were no repercussions because it was just a joke, she would be on a knifes edge sending her son to school and wouldn't pay any attention to the other kids mother saying the same stuff she was.
She should've been trying to knock his head off his shoulders. Instead she's standing there defending his effd up behavior. And the young man was dead silent the entire time. That speaks volumes. He didn't even profess his innocence.
well done to the oficers for handeling this perfectly
Wearing orange socks “ he’s crazy
I've heard that so many times "not my child". Then.when something does happen, they're in utter disbelief. The fact she owns a.gun too makes it all the more real. I truly hope she keeps that locked.away.and.out of his.reach cause lady its not a joke .people are literall
Oh I've met one of these parents. Even after her kid did something horrible. She cried, screamed and raged that it wasn't her sweet boy. Claimed that the security footage from the school and the statements of everyone that witnessed it were all lies. Thankfully what her kid did didn't cost anyone their lives. He "joked" for two weeks that he was going to cause chaos and make all the "idiots" that he went to school with pay. So he got a bunch of pepper spray and smoke bombs. Threw lit smoke bombs all over the school foyer. Then when all the students and teachers came out he ran through the crowd spraying pepper spray in all directions. But, her sweet little boy would never do that. Not in a million years. And the respirator he was wearing, the cans of pepper spray and the smoke bombs were all planted on him in some crazy plot that was put together by the police, school and his fellow students. 🤦♀
i love the part the mum breaks down when she realised she done fucked up by raising a little shit, follows it up by crying out "he's just a little boy he didn't do anything wrong". Lol, yes he is a little boy aka a minor but they literally just explained to you what he did constitutes a 2nd or 3rd degree felony
I think it's weird how there seems to be jump cuts here and there in the footage posted by the sherriffs office. Like show the uncut footage if you are trying to convince me of something.
Makes me think of that line in True Detective.
"Man's game charges a man's price."
Good job on your deputies for arrest these people and kids who make violent threats keep our world and schools safe Mike Chitwood .
Does everyone think this kid should get a felony for making a statement on his video game?
DiscerningLight nope
What about the recent “jokes” implying assassinating the sitting POTUS? No felonies there. Fucking double standards
@Kevin Tucker A felony will ruin this kids life from being able to get a job and having a productive life! This will clearly set him up for a criminal life to make ends meet. Don't you think there should be guidelines for the kid to read about the repercussions for his actions? I would imagine he should have his account suspended from being able to play his game live and the police should have something in place to do a welfare check and YES some kind of accountability for his actions. How about therapy and juvenile detention. The executive brain is still developing until early 20's! There should be more in place to help then to criminally prosecute!
@Kevin Tucker So again my question is does this kid deserve of felony? The kid probably doesn't even know what a felony is or what it will mean for the rest of his life!
@Kevin Tucker Okay, thanks for your thoughts. I am so concerned for these kids and people are so quick to make fun of his Mom! Whatever happened to the saying "it takes a village".... Maybe these kids would feel better about the world if we all could be a little more concerned about them and their future.
Well. I think the right thing was done here. Also interesting to see the kid not say anything or move. He seemed unphased and distant (but the blur could have caused that interpretation for me). Sociopath?
good thing this kid got arrested... you never know how empty those threats may NOT be.
i wish i could say i feel for the mom because she’s protecting her baby, but in the end, it’s the law and i sincerely agree with it... anything to make schools safer.
edit: i rephrased some things to make it flow better and seperated each point. :)