CBT Demo Socratic Questioning
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2017
- A demonstration of Socratic Questioning in a Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) counselling setting.
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1. The event
2. Identify the underlining assumptions
3. Question the assumption
4. Conclusion or new emerging prognosis
5. Compare and contrast the new prognosis/accommodation (Piaget 1957) with the old assimilation.
6. A new paradigm.
And this is how I understood the dialogue.
Thank you for this.
This was excellent! It really gives a clinician a picture of how things should be done. Thank you for sharing! :) I have subscribed.
this is a good example of socratic questioning. Actors were actually convincing and very well done. More views needed; i will recommend.
its not acting. Its an actual interview. You can tell by his body posture, One body posture is the beginning of the video you can see the "patient"s fingers are interlocked like he's holding pressure on his fingers. This is a sign of discomfort, nervousness. thorughout the video when questions get more clear, he relaxes his hands. still intertwined, still discomfort but more relaxed than the beginning.
Another point is his facial expressions. Compared to the interviewer, the interviewee's eye contact is little to none. Meaning he doesnt feel comfident with the situation.
Interviewer's body posture and eye contact shows dominance and confidence.
thats just a few examples but I believe this is a real interview altogether.
throughtout the video, you can see how confident builds up with the interviewee, he gets more relaxed, Starts to use hand motions while he talks and shows more vocally.
@@kevinnicolas1007 it could just be good acting
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Yes...based on past events.
We all assume at some point in our lives that somone did not like us fer real.
@Jayden Nunez they are actors in a role simulating a real life situation. I don't think you are suitable to dispute any comments I make given the stupidity of ti's post from you.
Assumptions tend to have this kind of problem, we tend to then go to a worse case scenario in our minds. We fill dialog in for the other person to reinforce our confirmation bias, things that the other person literally did not say.
Our imagination can be wonderful, or terrible, thing depending what state of mind we are in.
Great video. Hopefully yall put out more content in the future. 🤙🤙🤙
Amazing video!
Thanks. This was very enriching.
great video!
Thank you so much for this amazing example! I'm wondering how to use this with clients who get stuck in thoughts of "I should be doing more, I'm not good enough, or I'm unlovable " which ends up contributing to the cycle of anxiety and depression?
Best example I’ve seen
As a therapist in training, this seems alot easier than I thought it was. I'm wondering "how much of the therapist is in this protocol?"
This is great as we are learning about socratic dialogue at home. Please make more of this kind of video. Could you also please move the mic closer? I have hard time hearing. Thank you.
Thank you! We've just purchased new mics, so this should improve on our new videos!
I mean I think it's pretty safe to assume not acknowledging someone can lead anyone to think they're not liked. Acknowledgement is proof of an established relationship.
To not be acknowledged by someone in public, can lead to someone believing that relationship isn't as established as they thought.
Or it could've been just as simple as they didn't see it or mistaken identity. But the premise is assuming the person DID see them and CHOSE not to Acknowledge them. I think people can know the difference between someone that isn't pay attention and someone that's ignoring them.
I disagree with your statement about being able to know the difference between someone who isn't paying attention and someone who's ignoring them. Sometimes I see people and don't recognize them. It might be because I'm distracted on the phone, or talking to the person I'm with, or just inside my own head, or some other reason. It's not that I don't like them, I just don't know who they are (in that moment). There is another possibility if someone does not acknowledge you: the person is extremely shy and cannot bring himself to expose their vulnerability by acknowledging you. There are many of these people. The whole point of the video is that we have to challenge the assumptions we make because they can lead to wrong conclusions.
I agree with the other commenter, it’s hard to tell whether the person genuinely noticed you or not. Personally, I have attention problems and am so deep in my head half the time that I can have someone I know walk past me and not even realize it. Or I do notice them, panic, and walk on by because I wasn’t sure how to react or whether they would even want me to say hi. I’m just a bit stupid like that.
Gaslighting, I think, is defined as making someone doubt things they saw to the point that they believe they are “crazy” (hallucinating, psychotic etc). Gaslighting could also be questioning the conclusions someone draws from what they see to an unreasonable extent. In this example, the counselor is not making the person doubt what he saw with his own eyes. Instead, he’s asking the person to question the conclusion he drew from what he saw. And I think what he’s asking the person to question is reasonable in this case. (Ideally, a good counselor/therapist will not have an agenda other than helping the client, and will be reasonable because they’re detached from the situation.)
Now, the person’s original belief may be justified with more evidence of his friend acting coldly toward him - but for now, he’s assuming the worst based on not much evidence. “He’s a jerk” or “He doesn’t like me.” That’s a bad thing to assume, because it robs his friend the benefit of the doubt, which could destroy a potentially good relationship over a misunderstanding. So I think in this case it is good to question the assumption and give the friend another chance.
The interviewee should just address this head on. Tell your mother-in-law that she makes you feel uncomfortable when she doesn’t wave back to you while sitting on her front porch.🤪
I talked to the guy. He doesn't like him
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This is almost the ‘yes man theory’
Yes man theory is the Socratic way of persuasion
Problem:
Assumptions are predictions made by the brain based on previous (traumatic) experience that is often stored and acted upon unconciously, which is why they can´t be clearly articulated in this kind of questioning.
also an assumption isnt it?
I think it could be made conscious. (I know I'm literally replying to message from 2 years ago, but I want to suggest a different thought to anyone who sees these comments in the future.) Consider a casual, but hopefully somewhat relatable, example of chewing on a soft-feeling food and then biting on something that unexpectedly feels a bit more firm or chewy. The first thing that came to my mind was the feeling of chowing down on some spaghetti. The noodles and the tomato sauce on it feels pretty soft, and, as you eat it, it will feel just about as soft and chewy. That is a pattern that I wouldn't expect to change, and I would assume that the texture of my food continues to feel the same way. If I suddenly encounter a biteful of food that has an unusually tough piece of pasta, then my assumption would be proved wrong. It might also help reveal the fact that I had that assumption in the first place.
Anyway, I don't see why assumptions are restricted to remaining unconscious. It also makes more sense to me that assumptions are just things we intuitively make and follow every day, even in the absence of traumatic experiences.
Try using the socratic method on whether we live on a spinning ball that water magically sticks to! Have fun!
@Lawrence Jörgensen good question! What have we been told? What proof do we have that "gravity" causes the ball to drop? Could the reason the ball falls have to do with density and bouancy?
Am I ill to think it's okay if some people do not like us and some like us and that not everyone is supposed to like us just the same way that we do not like everyone?? Is there any problem with me then? seriously I am asking. I do not even care much if I know someone does not like me especially if I know I have not given them any terrible reason for not liking me, then I am okay with being not liked and I think everyone's entitled to their likes/dislikes opinions etc. I do not like some either and that's fine.
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Bad example. The conversation is not balanced enough. The philosopher is pulling the conversation towards his own knowledge, but he should know that he also don’t know the true knowledge. They should both seek the path to knowledge, and not one guy dictating the conversation in a inhuman manner. This judgement is based on my assumptions.
I partially agree. Here's my two cents. The counselor seemed to show genuine interest and empathy in the client (in fact, his listening skills even seemed exaggerated at times), certain aspects of his mannerism created the impression that he was sure of the answers to the questions he was posing. Personally, were I in the client's shoes, I wouldn't prefer to be led in such an obvious way. Rather, I'd like to have what feels like an open-ended, eye-to-eye conversation.
@@inafern its probably very difficult not to insert your own.belief as the questioner and remain truly neutral.
I think it is important to remember that, in this context, this is a treatment setting, not a philosophical colloquy. The client often is very explicit in their seeking guidance in examining their thoughts/assumptions, so I don’t think it’s inappropriate for the therapist to (flexibly and compassionately) have a vision or “destination” in mind, while not giving the client the answers to their problems.
This is therapy not a philosophy session. CBT in particular includes the therapist speaking a lot and asking questions, guiding the client to new perspectives about their maladaptive core beliefs
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing
Poor audio
I can see this being a form of gaslighting to be honest.
That was a subjective projection in the form of an inner objection, Now my question is what made you select that selection ? Was it ignorance or was it for your very own protection ?
Gaslighting is seperated from this incident by it's core requirement, belittling persons intelligence and ability to control and understand his/her experience. During a "Gaslighting" situation, victim feels invalidated and turn to it's perpetuator for safety and guiadance. Knowing that, his/her thinking is at it's core "wrong" and he/she doesn't have the ability to understand what is going through life. In pscyhotherapy techniques like this, primary aim is to support and nurture a self-regulating awereness. It nurtures compassion and spontaneity. Therefore it is distinct from trauamatic enviroments such as "Gaslighting" or "invalidating traumatic" relationships which breeds hostile and dangerous enviroments for the persons on both sides. Last but not least, in hands of a unexperienced or unqualified therapist, a therapy process can devolve into a "Gaslighting" situation but these imply a generally neglecful and ignorant attributes by the therapist and should be intervened by the therapists's supervisor. That's why it's important to check your therapists background and qualifications.
clinicians should stop doing this. You cannot ask these types of questions without skin in the game..superior questioning an inferior
"Any other hypotheses that you can think of as to why might not like you?"
"I **** his wife."
This conversation should have just discussed their biceps.