Is Scope Lens Pay To Win? Is It Bugged? Scope Lens Explained! - Pokémon Unite
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- Tons to discuss in this vid about scope lens. Is it bugged and if so how does it work? Who uses it best? Third thing? With help from Mathgeek and the Unite Mathcord (link below) I break down scope lens and why it is named "the only real pay to win item"! Yeehaw
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The other Pokémon stopped inviting Absol to their bi-weekly DnD sessions. Absol was always rolling 20s.
Super Luck
Absol ruining the fun for everybody... GEEZ!
I choked
true the nat 20 luck is rigged
Absol is playing an elf champion fighter with elven accuracy lol
Hopefully the devs realize that the community will get this information eventually, and they start publishing it in-game!
They really should
Or even if they just post it on a website for particularly dedicated fans so as to not overwhelm new players with too much information unless they seek it out
@@tystill I'll take anything :D
Hope so too, but again, we're talking about Pokémon. They've been keeping key info from players since '96
@@kwayke9 yeeeaaaaaah... and tencent also neglects a lot their games
"Absol crits at Denny's when it's trying to order." I went into a coughing fit after this
🤠
Literally same
Confirmed: spragels caused Covid!
FUCKING SAME Xd
Critical orders makes it go faster for better quality
So basically, if you crit with Scope Lense equipped, you get 75% of your Attack Stat as bonus damage after your regular crit damage + the Scope Lense base stats.
Jake is like the lovable dorky uncle you wish you had. Don't ever change Jake.
Ok, but which Jake is it?
all Jakes in canon
@@peterholmes7440 Jake #4 obviously lol
Literally all I want from TiMi and the devs is more clarity/transparency about stats and patches, but hey at least it gives us more Cowboy Content!
I don't know I kind of like not knowing all the little stuff. Makes it more fun not knowing an then finding stuff out, figuring stuff out, as we go.
I fill like, knowing every little bitty thing all the time just makes it boring.
Cause then, the majority of players know what's what, an everyone expects everyone to run stuff a certain way, an if you don't your not part of the meta, an people usually tend to look down others because they treat it like if your running something different then what's already known then whatever it is your running with isn't as good.
The way it is now leaves plenty if room for experimentation an fun along the way. which is good.
I hope they keep it the way it is.
Iv already seen what happens with the community when a idea if something being different an being ran can lead to sand bagging in games iv played.
Oh your not going defender in a ranked match an now we're losing so let's vote to surrender repeatedly an just hang out an not play in the base spawn zone.
When, so far, every time this happens I turn the match around, often single handedly by myself an then they start playing again.
Ya, I really don't think this game needs more specific stats details at all.
It's great like it is.
I once got a critical order from Denny's and I still have leftovers
They moonsed over all the hammies on that day...
nah, leftovers is pretty bad on absol ;)
Thank you jake, this was brilliant and definitely one of the most important video on Pokemon Unite. That bug crippled soo much of gameplay. Thank you and thank you again for making this video.
I was running this on Charizard. I thought it was a perfect match. I'm glad you showcased this! Love the videos and tips!
The placement of the item actually matters. I tried it and I was getting crits much more frequently than before 😲
What slot was it in?
@@turtle4935 it has to be anywhere else than right of the muscle band.
@@theodore7955 lol no. It has to be anywhere else than “right” of the muscle band
I have it in the 1 spot, then muscle and buddy Barrier in 2 and 3.
@@hellofriendhypnosis I think it is fixed now.
Awesome video! This isbmy only item that is L30 and absolutely sroked now you showed us how to use it better! I have been using it wrong and using it on the wrong characters. Thanks and great video!
Looks lile Absol will be my new favourite character to play!
Like to run it on Machamp. While his abilities can’t crit, he does have 2 moves that can increase crit chance.
An easy way to confirm the bug is on the substitute doll in practice mode. I tried it with level 15 greninja and attacked the dummy once for a critical hit to see the damage break down. Move damage after one crit is only 360 when scope lense is to the right of muscle band. Move damage goes up to 730ish after one critical when scope lense is to the left of muscle band.
I never knew about the bug and I wanted to confirm it asap. Thanks for the heads up Jake!
Wow, I didn't realize it was THAT much difference. That's absolutely terrible, wtf
I tried cinderace and I got 3k or 11k dmg sometimes with scope lens only 2-4 basic attacks
@@javelinkufra7961 it's literally impossible to do 11k damage with only 2 or 3 basic attacks.
Idk but I did do it I think it's a bug
Has the bug been fixed?
You're telling me I got to ultra rank with a bugged scope lens? Figures. I seem to do everything the hard way.
Great content. I was also surprised how much passive crit dmg/rate you get on that. I think the CDR on bell is similar worth upgrading for if you run it, but it doesn't scale as strongly (caps out at 4.5% I think).
About scope lens, i understand that it has to be left of muscle band to work, but if i dont run muscle band at all, will it still proc ?? because i usually run: Scope / Focus / Barrier on absol
I got my scope lens from 20 to 30 recently and I feel the difference on Snorlax Flail so much, its insane.
Whats wild is while he was explaining this, it reminded me of monster sanctuary and how it works. So scope lense can give you an additional 75% atk stat hit as well as boosting that crit and crit dmg. Which is wild
Jake you are hilarious and informative. Thanks my dude!
Thank you!
Love how Jake 12 is going by "Future Jake" to throw us off the scent
true fans know that musk by heart
The secrecy makes him even more dangerous
@@geoffg917 And the danger only makes him more secretive!!!
I have been following your diligent tracking of the Jake Lore™ on every video and I want to say I really appreciate you
He ain’t slick
About the stats from the items being negligible past level 20. While this may be true, I noticed this does not mean stats are negligible before level 20. I have a smurf account for playing ranked with newer premades that's at level 7. I noticed how squishy my pokemon is and I cannot solo Dreadnaw even at high levels like I can on my main account.
This definitely touched my mantle 🤯
Shiinotic should be in pokemon unite. 🍄
Edit: I think it would be a supporter. Moves:
Strength Sap: lowers attack for a short time and restores HP
Pollen puff: does dammage to opponents or heals an ally
Moonblast: Does dammage and lowers special attack for a short time
Giga drain: Does dammage and restores hp
Absorb: does dammage, lowers speed for a short time, and restores hp
Spore: Puts opponents to sleep in the designated area
Ability: Effect Spore: If made contact with puts the attacker to sleep, poisons, or paralyzes the attacker
Ballonlea town should be a pokemon unite move, it's circular already...
Prove me wrong
I actually can see that. I would love to see Scizor, Golisopod, Sceptile, and Goodra
Metagross
Awesome content as always! Now I want to know how mathematically correct Charizard would look like outside of Scope Lens. :D
Super useful vid, thans cowboy!
I'm just here to comment that I love the random singing in your Road to Masters videos Jake!
I do the same thing!
Thank you! I can’t control it
More info: The passive effect of Scope Lens essentially reads "Upon dealing a Critical Hit, deal bonus damage equal to 45%/60%/75% of the Pokémon's Attack stat. (1 sec cooldown)" These numbers are for Scope Lens at lvl 1/10/20 respectively.
This ALSO means Scope Lens is better on Pokémon with higher Attack values. Absol not only has the highest base crit rate in the game thanks to its Passive but is also #3 for highest Attack stat, and those two things combined mean Scope Lens is pretty much built for Absol. (The #1 and #2 are Zeraora and Talonflame.)
The main Pokémon that can take advantage of Scope Lens are Absol/Charizard/Cinderace/Machamp. It's decent on Greninja/Garchomp/Crustle. It's more of a cute trick for Wigglytuff.
For safety and to avoid the bug, just make it a habit to put Scope Lens in the left-most item slot.
I'd say Garchomp is actually the second best user of scope lense.
Not only does he have the second highest attack speed in the game (right after charizard), which means he'll proc its passive more often than most pokemon, he also benefits from the highest AA dps in the game, which means increasing his AA output iis highly beneficial for him.
And the cherry on the cake is that his spells can crit, more damage, and more crit rate for those.
Wow thank you for the video, I was trying out scope lens after seeing a doc explaining how much damage charizard earns from it, but it really wasn't as high as expected
Now I know why 🙏🏾
1:27 :'D I, sometimes looking for my glasses everywhere, getting crazy cant find them when i am just have them on my head.
Is there a spreadsheet that shows the basic attack crit chance for every pokemon?
from my testing. with muscleband scopelense and floatstone in any order it seems like the passive of scopelense is just not working AT ALL. the only benefits you will actually get are the stats at the bottom of the item. the passive seems to add nothing at all. even when taking muscleband out completely the only bonus on crit damage seems to be from the %crit damage on the item itself.
when testing this, if you see a higher number please make sure its not an empowered basic attack. i feel like thats where they messed up their testing. i cant seem to get the scope lense passive to proc whatever i try
Use chomp for testing. It’s defo there as I’ve tested it myself and noticed the odd move damage build up before I even knew what was going on.
One thing I've never gotten an answer to is what the actual default crit chance is for basic attacks. Does it vary by pokemon/level? People say it starts at zero then increases as it levels up, but no one has provided some sort or source/evidence/numbers for this.
Appreciate this video brother, I main Charizard and am always trying to find better builds that can make him better!
You are the perfect person to talk about this
What about the recent patch? Have you tested if it was changed? Sometimes devs fix bugs immediately after they learn someone found out about them.
Dang so actually going for Dragon Rush and Dragon Claw with Garchomp is too op
Glad I used my 30 level item enchancer on the scope lens
Absolutely understood all of the information about Energy Amplifier in this video 🤣🤯🤯
So I started following you because of Pokemon unite, but I just realized the first videos of yours I watched were Mass Effect lol
This is fantastic. Tyty sir
As someone who has been really enjoying charizard and just got to masters thanks to mostly charizard (tho not the final match), good to know about the scope lens thing before pushing deeper into masters
What you said about the 75% of attack was actually written right there in the word description. The 4% and 8% are just addtional stat like hp/attack from other items.
So basically people now just figure out the hidden number from the word description is 75%, at lv20.
Edit: explanation from a Math tutor. Hope it helps to understand more easily.
12 years of mobas and mmos have prepared me to process this video. Thanks for the info!!!
You are a great commissioner Gordon....with that luxurious ass mustache
Luxurious ass majestic ass moustache...
I’m no Mathcord, but I’m glad that when I squinted and turned my head sideways I decided that scope was the best investment past 30….when I get enough enhancers.
Love the new Pokemon, Mr. Mike!
Thanks for the incredibly useful video as always sir, please don't stop!
Is scope lens bugged without a muscle band equipped??
Thanks for the info Jake. I didn't see anything on Gengar's Surf ability. Does that Crit? lol
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Wait Gengar has a surf skill?
That and Mr. Mike
XD
Excuse me but do you happend to have the picture of Morrigan from dragon age that is on your back? I'd love yo use it as a wallpaper, thanks in advance.
That kiss at the end had some heft to it!
Chunky and powerful 🤠
Does the bug still occur when muscle band isn't in the build? I'm assuming no. It can't be "to the left of muscle band" if muscle band isn't in the build.
I wanted to mention this since Jake said, "It's not worth running it on Machamp since he only has one move that can crit", but doesn't both Submission and Cross Chop up his crit rate? Or is his base crit chance and the crit he gets too low that it doesn't matter?
I run this on Machamp all the time with lens and it's great
I never get a clear number on the stats but according to some builds that i tried on machamp, with submission on and then the next move is cross chop, max level lens, i can get almost always crit on it (deals around 1.3k-1.6k). But with max stack on cross chop basic passive i can easily get 2.1k dmg on cross chop. Without lens however the crit chance is greatly decreased for some reason and the dmg is also quite bad (900ish). So machamp really get a good dmg out from that, follow by the ticket for increasing crit dmg. It's fun if you know how to combo (Ult>submission>ult>cross chop)
Thanks so much so helpful
Wait, so if you have a scope pens with crustle and wigglytuff, they have 0% base crit rate so the only crit rate they have will be the 6% (lvl20) from the item? Isn’t that so low it’s not even worth using?
Yeah it’s pretty low. I could see someone saying that they don’t want to use an item like that
With regards to other held items, does it matter which slot you placed them or not?
40k congrats
That Mr.Mike must be magical like his cousin Mr. Mime.
I'm very interested in that Mr. Mike on the crit chart lol
So what about machamp increasing his crit rate after dynamic punch and cross chop
Will it increase his autos after?
Crit Crustle! Got to try it!
So wait aura veil makes all of ninetails basics crit right? Does that mean they’ll get the boost from scope lens
This is really mind blowing. 🤯🤯🤯
Great work on this vid Jake. if Einstein were watching he’d be struggling to keep up as well
Is attack weight better than muscle band on charizard? Also great video as usual thank you for this info. No wonder sometimes I felt as if my scope lens wasn’t working. That is an odd bug! Yeehaw!
Can charizard use muscle band passive?If can is it worth using?
What about muscle band? If basic attack speed keeps increasing above level 20 it surely is also pay2win?
Is it just me or when I go to the lobby my stick won’t go left or right?
Do the boosted attacks from all pokemon have a chance to crit with the scope lens? I ask because they are considered special.
Mr. Mime is now Mr. Mike to Jake
Wait lucario E-speed can’t crit? I just tested (albeit not extensively) muscle band vs scope lens and scope lens does more damage on average.
i run scope lens on snorlax, and take flail. when ur low hp with flail you can crit massive damage
If you run flail you’re trolling
Cant do shit with lot of cc on the Meta, you cant chase people, even with yawn, its hardly viable, unless the enemy doesn't know how to fight a flail snorlax
@@KingsCompanyy Yawn + Flail can actually be kinda good. It isn’t meta, but it’s probably better than the entirety of Garchomp
I prefer muscle band over scope when I'm running flail
@@KingsCompanyy This is old news, he does a lot better with Flail since they soft-nerfed him right before Blastoise release
I like how zards kit has no crit yet his passive is more crit. Such synergy lol. That being said- i will opt to try scope lens on him. I have grown comfortable with Focus Band, Buddy Barrier, Energy Amp.
I'm really glad I found out about the Scope Lens bug from this video. That being said, I'm beyond livid that my Charizard Scope Lens build would have been so much more effective on my road to masters if I just had it in the FIRST F**KING SLOT!!
Seriously, thanks Jake. My boy Char and I can finally stomp again!
2:45
Try?
Man, you are always on point
I maxed upgraded Focus Band because I mainly use Blissey, Slowbro, and Snorlax. Idk if that was the right call tho.
Its good on more than just tanks/supports. Lucario and Venusaur are two of the best pokemon in the game right now and they both tend to run it. Very good on them. It is also run on Ninetales sometimes as well as a few other options.
I like u man keep going. The yeaaaaaaa think is kinda stupid but is catchy! xD
So the passive is the description and not a description of what the item does?
I related too much to that hoodie story... In you I shall trust.
Thank you!
2:51 video starts
I've used scope lens since i got the game (when unlocked it) and it's been working for me. It is awesome for Cinderace.
It’s pretty good but I just can’t seem to give up the big 3
@@AshenDust_ yeah the meta things are awesome but i tried doing some different things to see. Scope Lens is really good especially when Cinderace is on Lv11+ it is nasty.
One week later, super enhancers are a real thing and I'm honestly glad I found this video
Was that scope lens and muscle band left and right patched??
Which held item do You recommend for Charizard ? I was thinking scope lens, buddy barrier and muscle band, but not sure if attack weight is better on him (for muscle band) and score shield (for buddy barrier)
If his attack is procing at 4x the speed of anything els than muscle band would be amazg just like scpe lens because it will proc the 3% of enemy hp more often on the basics. So, buddy barrier (low cooldown unite on charizard so no brainer imo), muscle band, scope lens.
@@SenpaiTorpidDOW there should be a bit of researching on looking if you do more damage with
Scope lens + muscle band or
Muscle band + Energy amplifier
Scope lens + energy amplifier
I got all the way to masters with him using scope lens, muscle band and attack weight, it's really good tbh, didn't miss Buddy Barrier at all
@@fiorrytommy9429 why not run scope lens + muscle band + energy amp for maximum damage
@@johnchristman1453 amp sux because it only last 4 sec, and the recharge effect is bugged
Snorlax wasn't on your crit ability list. Wouldn't flail count?
I've always used scope lens but never knew it was considered OP. I just felt better with it on
1:27 I’m SHOOK from this plot twist!
I have been shocked into my poor, sweet mantle!
9:00 In case you’re just looking for the critical hit chart, here’s a time stamp for it.
I say Muscle Band is second most P2W Item, as 2.5 % attack speed scale at all levels.
Muscle Band's attack speed is bugged so it doesn't work on mons who gain attack speed as they level
I tested out the Shell Bell and this is the formula for the healing it provides at Level 20
HP recovery = 0.45 x Sp Atk stat + 75
Example : Say your base Sp Atk stat is 250 and you equip Lv 20 shell bell and wise glasses; these add a total of 45 to Sp Atk and then 7 % increase. So your effective Sp Atk is then (250+45)x1.07 = 316. Therefore when you land a move you get 0.45x316 + 75 = 217 HP recovered.
On special attackers like pikachu, venusaur, gardevoir and ninetales this translates to 3.2% HP recovery at Lv 1 to 8.2% at Lv 15.
Given that on an average, you can be recovering about 5% HP every 8 seconds throughout the game and also get 3% move cooldown reduction, does it make it viable ?
maybe with the mobile release, the devs of the game should make the game much more transparent so its not rocket science just to learn about the specifics of a held item.
You got it right the first time. Shocked to my core
I wish buddy barrier wasn’t as good so I could run other things, rn I really run that with focus sash and scope for dps or score shield for defense/support
I'm hoping that at the end of season we get to equip 4 items after Player lvl 40.
*focus band
@@Mr.Jacket that sounds broken
@@Mr.Jacket play to win
From where do he get so much info? Is it a discord channel, reddit or other website?
Great update - Thanks Jake. P.S. Do you know Mathgeek?
Definitely solo climbed to master partly with bugged Pika, Venu, and Ninetales weeks ago 🙃
your mustache is sure commissioner gordon
Jake thank you so much for this tip. I have noticed a difference in my game play!
Awesome
I think muscle band is also worth upgrading past 20, because the basic attack speed increases
It is. Mine is 28 and there was a small but noticeable difference as I scaled up
bruh how did it take me getting all the way to master before someone told me i needed to swap my scope lens placement...
is float stone good on greninja