The reason businesses like this are branded as pyramid schemes is because the majority of all sales and consumption of the products are from the reps themselves. They are the main customers. It is difficult to retail these products because their is such a significant mark up in cost for these products in order to sustain this marketing scheme. The products are not superior to competitors, yet the prices are inflated and uncompetitive. So therefore the reps have to consume the products themselves to make a very small return in the illusions of "savings" and also to meet minimums. And if you don't make the minimum quotas in personal volume, you lose out on being compensated at all. I've used Nutrilite and Artistry products and there is nothing significant about it. For the reps it is merely a placebo effect. That's why there is so much emphasis on "the dream" and "financial freedom" so that people are indoctrinated. Reps claim to own their own business, yet they can be terminated and have no say in the compensation plan. An owner of a business determines compensations rates with their client/customer and can not be terminated. Reps are merely gloried employees.
How do I get into amway's social media team is my question. I wanna get paid to insist "it's not a pyramid scheme, I'm just trying to teach people to replicate my success!"
Great company don’t listen to what people say. I love the way you explain your body need more video for all the skeptical and people that think it’s all about pyramid scheme. I’ve got a Costco shop every time I got nothing back. But now I shop at my store I get money back symbol money for products that I eat and drink every day. What is so hard about that this exchange money for products simple as that.
so basically you're more like vendor, that shops from him/herself, uses word of mouth advertising, earn profits from customers, and to earn commissions add people to do the (duplicate) like a stores that open up in many locations to increase earnings. You're like a one man corporation it seems. Gotta know a lot people, or hopefully get others to duplicate your efforts, a lot trust......oh man serious stuff.
I have a few questions hopefully you can answer it. Ex: so what if both of you guys are at 25%? Ivan 25% and one of my legs is 25% Like i only have one line. Line 1. Line 2 John 25% Osbel12% Ashly 25% Cristian 9% Albert 21%. Ben6% Bob 15% Etc Like I want to have two lines and on one of my lines I have so many people down that I have two of my top one becomes 25 as well. Bc I kept on adding down to that line What I earn from the line or because I helped them out I got canceled out? Also what would you recommend not having fewer lines with a lot of people or more lines with less people?
This is a creative pyramid scheme. They just made a pyramid scheme more complex as a misdirection tactic. You can literally draw a pyramid/triangle around every chart he displayed to explain how it is not a pyramid scheme. At the very least it tricks the bottom people to work for $3/hour. Track your hours. If everyone looked at their monthly income from Amway and divided it by their hours working you’d quickly learn it is not worth it. Plus there are so many stories where someone’s up line fires them and takes their down line they built. High risk, low reward. $200/month divided by 60 hours (15 hours a week) equals $3.33/hour. Delivering pizza is more worth your time.
I am a real IBO ready to go double eagle platinum in18 months with amazing mentors by my side. I will retire for the rest of my life while you troll/haters go to work daily and build your bosses dreams. On Monday mornings when you are getting ready for work, I will wake up after I am done sleeping. I will stretch make some coffee take a trip down to San Francisco downtown catch a bite at Kokkari_Estiatorio. Walk the streets watch the sun set in the sausalito port. Before dark catch a plane back to my city of Seattle. This business changes life's if you do it right. Anyways guys enjoy your job tell your boss I said hi. I am going to finish writing my resignation letter. By the way in a pyramid the person at the top makes the most person at the bottom less and so on then theirs you at the bottom trying to get a promotion that's if you don't get fired. ;) a pyramid is where you go every Monday guys. My business is a ladder we all start in the same position and climb as high as we want. Get educated, because when you know nothing you know everything. Haha
Yes, I got the same answer from my diamond too. Thank you so much! It is very sweet that it is going to go up to 6%, I am running my silver qualification goal for August. Thank you for answering!
The question is, how am I supposed to sell the shitty products Amway sells when they aren’t even competitive on price? The energy drinks cost the same as monster or Red Bull and aren’t as good. LOL.
Jobs/corporate America structure is pyramidal also…”Guy on top makes money off of people on the bottom” complaint people have”. The guy on top, aka CEO makes >200 times more than the average employee. If you ask your boss to show you your company’s compensation plan…I bet you’ll see that you generate 10 times more for your company in comparison of what you get paid. But obviously your boss won’t show you that. They just want you to mind your own business, work hard like good little employees, and trash you once their done with you or you are of no use to them.
A employee job is literally a pyramid lmao, keep in mind that a job is positional and competitive. Try to make it to the top and the top will fire you, amway and more of a team effort and mindset growth. We just want to help people do what we're doing so they can get the dream life they want to live
My father worked for Amway in the 90’s for 3 months outside of the US and he paid for all of his own travel and expenses to do it. When he got back they fired him and took all of his down line. He got a check a couple months later for $37. Amway is absolutely a pyramid scheme.
Amway is actually currently under investigation 4/20/2022 for "money laundering" and has, in fact, multiple times (starting in 1979) in the past opted to settle the court claims monetarily in attempts to blanket the unethical and predatory "business model". Amway follows an MLM pyramid scheme. In this scheme, the company actually tries to sell products, but they will not necessarily close sales. Also, it is compulsory to recruit members to generate income. Basically, they are pretending to be selling products, but in reality, they are just running a pyramid scheme.
Well, if Amway goes down, I don't really care. We don't represent them. However, if you had any real education on what a pyramid scheme was, you'd call it something different. Additionally, in no legitimate MLM is it compulsory to recruit members to generate income, including Amway - this is just false and shows your ignorance/lack of education. Amway may be doing things like money laundering or other shady things, I have no clue but they sure as heck are no "pyramid scheme". You should probably do some more research on what that actually means before trying to sound smart.
Your business knowledge is outstanding. This argument has never been thought of before in the 100 year history of the industry. Wow. You could be the chair of the Federal Reserve.
Thanks.If anyone still thinks Amway is a pyramid just read Sylvester Hillyarde's book "Network Marketing? Anything Loks Good on Paper! Beware! How to Select a Network Marketing Company." Proves it is definitely NOT a pyramid - find me a another company besides Amway which can complete all the criteria in the Checklist -
Hey Zach! Great video and I admire your humility when everyone bashes you for what they do not know. Being an open minded skeptic is natural, but being a close minded skeptic is being cynical. Correct me if I'm wrong. Another great book about networking marketing you probably have read, is Robert Kiyosaki's "The Business of the 21st Century". Its a brilliant read! Keep making more of these videos. Cheers!
Oscar, you clearly have zero clue how any mid to large size business truly operates in or outside of network marketing. Your ignorance is forgivable. But your willingness to showcase it in a public setting is actually admirable. I wish I had that level of confidence.
Make $ off your downline 🤨 pester and pressure random people to buy product and sign up to sell products so that you can make more $. 🧐 Hmmm.....that business model sounds legit.
For the people saying is a pyramid scheme ya'll realize that your working for one 😂 you work for a dollar get a penny climbing the corporate latter kissing ass to the boss and the higher you go the more time you have to give the harder it is to get in either someone dies, retires to get that position open and at the end your boss is making money of you haha
Same thing in an MLM. Your layers of upline is making money off everything you do. Also the CEO of the MLM is also making money off of everything you do. What's the difference?
@@JohnBowl14690 the difference is my boss doesn’t t have my back and helping me how to get where they at but I dont expect you to understand 🤙 every one is right through their own perspective, cheers mate
@@enriquesada100 - I know quite a bit about Amway. My close friend was involved with it for 8 years. Sadly, he has nothing to show for it. But I wouldn't expect you to understand. Cheers mate.
@@JohnBowl14690 I understand people get involved into things like the gym and got nothing to show for it does that mean the gym doesn’t work or the people don’t lmao 🤣 is called lazy cheers my guy
@@enriquesada100 - Only .7% in Amway make over $19K per year. That's not including expenses. Sounds to me like 99.3% are lazy. What a disgusting place to work! 99.3% of the people are lazy and and don't have the drive to earn a decent salary. Wow! Cheers dude!!!
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The reason businesses like this are branded as pyramid schemes is because the majority of all sales and consumption of the products are from the reps themselves. They are the main customers. It is difficult to retail these products because their is such a significant mark up in cost for these products in order to sustain this marketing scheme. The products are not superior to competitors, yet the prices are inflated and uncompetitive. So therefore the reps have to consume the products themselves to make a very small return in the illusions of "savings" and also to meet minimums. And if you don't make the minimum quotas in personal volume, you lose out on being compensated at all. I've used Nutrilite and Artistry products and there is nothing significant about it. For the reps it is merely a placebo effect.
That's why there is so much emphasis on "the dream" and "financial freedom" so that people are indoctrinated. Reps claim to own their own business, yet they can be terminated and have no say in the compensation plan. An owner of a business determines compensations rates with their client/customer and can not be terminated. Reps are merely gloried employees.
Brilliant upload and very easy to follow. This will help me immensely,thanks Zach. Hope you and everyone around you are enjoying great success!
Very Instructional. Cleared a lot of confusion! Thanks!
Great video.
You are very educated on this matter.
Helped out a lot, thanks champion
Amway was awesome !!! A great opportunity to change our life .
How do I get into amway's social media team is my question. I wanna get paid to insist "it's not a pyramid scheme, I'm just trying to teach people to replicate my success!"
Not sure I understand your question.
Thank you, I Amway, for changing our life!
How can I speak to any person for Amway opportunity? I WANT TO JOIN IT
Thanks for making this vid, Zach! Very well explained!
Great company don’t listen to what people say. I love the way you explain your body need more video for all the skeptical and people that think it’s all about pyramid scheme. I’ve got a Costco shop every time I got nothing back. But now I shop at my store I get money back symbol money for products that I eat and drink every day. What is so hard about that this exchange money for products simple as that.
so basically you're more like vendor, that shops from him/herself, uses word of mouth advertising, earn profits from customers, and to earn commissions add people to do the (duplicate) like a stores that open up in many locations to increase earnings. You're like a one man corporation it seems. Gotta know a lot people, or hopefully get others to duplicate your efforts, a lot trust......oh man serious stuff.
Yes! the main thing is to get people to DUPLICATE what you do, you have a good understanding of this.
Plant
Awesome vid! We need this!!! SHARE SHARE SHARE!!!
I have a few questions hopefully you can answer it. Ex: so what if both of you guys are at 25%?
Ivan 25% and one of my legs is 25%
Like i only have one line.
Line 1. Line 2
John 25% Osbel12%
Ashly 25% Cristian 9%
Albert 21%. Ben6%
Bob 15%
Etc
Like I want to have two lines and on one of my lines I have so many people down that I have two of my top one becomes 25 as well. Bc I kept on adding down to that line What I earn from the line or because I helped them out I got canceled out?
Also what would you recommend not having fewer lines with a lot of people or more lines with less people?
You explained everything so easily, thank you!
Great video. Whatever team u r on is mentoring you well. See u at the top
This is a creative pyramid scheme. They just made a pyramid scheme more complex as a misdirection tactic. You can literally draw a pyramid/triangle around every chart he displayed to explain how it is not a pyramid scheme.
At the very least it tricks the bottom people to work for $3/hour. Track your hours. If everyone looked at their monthly income from Amway and divided it by their hours working you’d quickly learn it is not worth it. Plus there are so many stories where someone’s up line fires them and takes their down line they built. High risk, low reward.
$200/month divided by 60 hours (15 hours a week) equals $3.33/hour. Delivering pizza is more worth your time.
Great summary!!! Awesome job!
Hey Zach!! Excellent video, very informative, I really enjoyed it.
Can you please do a similar video on World Financial Group??
This plan is only in the us. In Europe highest % is 21% on 10.000 PV and entrance is 3% on 200 PW.
How do the taxes work?
I am a real IBO ready to go double eagle platinum in18 months with amazing mentors by my side. I will retire for the rest of my life while you troll/haters go to work daily and build your bosses dreams. On Monday mornings when you are getting ready for work, I will wake up after I am done sleeping. I will stretch make some coffee take a trip down to San Francisco downtown catch a bite at Kokkari_Estiatorio. Walk the streets watch the sun set in the sausalito port. Before dark catch a plane back to my city of Seattle. This business changes life's if you do it right. Anyways guys enjoy your job tell your boss I said hi. I am going to finish writing my resignation letter. By the way in a pyramid the person at the top makes the most person at the bottom less and so on then theirs you at the bottom trying to get a promotion that's if you don't get fired. ;) a pyramid is where you go every Monday guys. My business is a ladder we all start in the same position and climb as high as we want. Get educated, because when you know nothing you know everything. Haha
Preach
Got proof for this how you doing now 5 years later lmao.
How’s your life going in 2024 ?
@@ChaoticMartian lmao
@daniels3318 how about 7 years later?
Put the frys in the bag bro lmao
So What if one of your frontals is at 25% and you are also qualified at 25%, how is the diferential calculated?
Yes, I got the same answer from my diamond too. Thank you so much! It is very sweet that it is going to go up to 6%, I am running my silver qualification goal for August. Thank you for answering!
Thanks brother, see you in Amway's 60th Anniversary ;) Zach Spear.
ROCKERZETA see you there too.
" A philosophical battle is a battle for men's minds, not an attempt to enlist blind followers."
-Ayn Rand-
Hey Zach: can you elaborate on what volume is 4% leadership bonus calculated?
Jack, can you tell me how much money a diamond makes per month
What happens when each leg does 7500 pv ?
What is personal value 😊
The question is, how am I supposed to sell the shitty products Amway sells when they aren’t even competitive on price? The energy drinks cost the same as monster or Red Bull and aren’t as good. LOL.
Your market analysis and product knowledge is mind blowing. Mensa club, JeffX.
@@zacharyspear No, spot on observation.
It isn’t pyramid . It’s group PV
Put in big efforts peeps!
Thanks Tan Wei
After you explain it so carefully, it sure does look like a pyramid scheme. You even took the time to shape it like a pyramid. Thanks Zach!!
Genius. You know shapes. Clearly your business intellect is sky high in and outside of network marketing. I imagine you're in the top 1%.
@@zacharyspear Of Course! I’m here with the rest of the 1% learning how to climb the Corporate Pyramid by selling vitamins and scamming strangers.
@@priscidr Dope.
Jobs/corporate America structure is pyramidal also…”Guy on top makes money off of people on the bottom” complaint people have”. The guy on top, aka CEO makes >200 times more than the average employee. If you ask your boss to show you your company’s compensation plan…I bet you’ll see that you generate 10 times more for your company in comparison of what you get paid. But obviously your boss won’t show you that. They just want you to mind your own business, work hard like good little employees, and trash you once their done with you or you are of no use to them.
A employee job is literally a pyramid lmao, keep in mind that a job is positional and competitive. Try to make it to the top and the top will fire you, amway and more of a team effort and mindset growth. We just want to help people do what we're doing so they can get the dream life they want to live
Bruh are you serious??
My father worked for Amway in the 90’s for 3 months outside of the US and he paid for all of his own travel and expenses to do it. When he got back they fired him and took all of his down line. He got a check a couple months later for $37.
Amway is absolutely a pyramid scheme.
i want to be distributer how ?
Amway is actually currently under investigation 4/20/2022 for "money laundering" and has, in fact, multiple times (starting in 1979) in the past opted to settle the court claims monetarily in attempts to blanket the unethical and predatory "business model". Amway follows an MLM pyramid scheme. In this scheme, the company actually tries to sell products, but they will not necessarily close sales. Also, it is compulsory to recruit members to generate income.
Basically, they are pretending to be selling products, but in reality, they are just running a pyramid scheme.
Well, if Amway goes down, I don't really care. We don't represent them. However, if you had any real education on what a pyramid scheme was, you'd call it something different. Additionally, in no legitimate MLM is it compulsory to recruit members to generate income, including Amway - this is just false and shows your ignorance/lack of education.
Amway may be doing things like money laundering or other shady things, I have no clue but they sure as heck are no "pyramid scheme". You should probably do some more research on what that actually means before trying to sound smart.
@@zacharyspear thank you so much for your concern! You are swell!!!!
Nice explanation...
that makes good sense
Thanks man!
Interesting video but you said “we”?
Not we. I'm not in Amway.
its definitely a pyramid scheme. the "employee" becomes the consumer
Your business knowledge is outstanding. This argument has never been thought of before in the 100 year history of the industry. Wow. You could be the chair of the Federal Reserve.
Buy into the company recruit others to buy in to make yourself money. Doesn't sound at all like a pyramid scheme to me 😃 IM IN
Your handle makes sense now. Genius logic.
This is very logical
How can we be in business together? I would like to use your vids and edit where appropriate
Everyone in Amway has big houses, cars, have quit their day job, and is next in line to be a diamond 💎
🤣
Thanks.If anyone still thinks Amway is a pyramid just read Sylvester Hillyarde's book "Network Marketing? Anything Loks Good on Paper! Beware! How to Select a Network Marketing Company." Proves it is definitely NOT a pyramid - find me a another company besides Amway which can complete all the criteria in the Checklist -
Hey Zach!
Great video and I admire your humility when everyone bashes you for what they do not know. Being an open minded skeptic is natural, but being a close minded skeptic is being cynical. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Another great book about networking marketing you probably have read, is Robert Kiyosaki's "The Business of the 21st Century". Its a brilliant read! Keep making more of these videos. Cheers!
My father is in Amway
nobody is IN Amway. WE ALL HAVE AMWAY BUSINESSES. one or two or 3 or 50..
TheRedstoneTaco is he rich
awesome!!!
Prymarid Scheme 🤣
Oscar, you clearly have zero clue how any mid to large size business truly operates in or outside of network marketing. Your ignorance is forgivable. But your willingness to showcase it in a public setting is actually admirable. I wish I had that level of confidence.
8000 x 3 =24000
Wth is a PV speak english, this is a public video and we are all new here 1:30
The video is for experienced reps.
You own the Orlando Magic? Lol
great opportunity, but i would till make my own business and be the CEO instead of working for someone else
Make $ off your downline 🤨 pester and pressure random people to buy product and sign up to sell products so that you can make more $. 🧐 Hmmm.....that business model sounds legit.
Your business intelligence is off the charts.
You literally explained a pyramid scheme. 😂
You clearly can't define an actual pyramid scheme or have an understanding of how medium-large businesses operate.
It’s not a pyramid scheme because of selling stuff. It’s just a scheme shaped like a pyramid 😂
😮 you weren't paying attention 😢😢
Please wake up
Its incentives
If this is not a pyramid scheme then, don't make your charts look like pyramids. ...... Just putting that out there.
Proud of you. Shapes are hard.
@@zacharyspear 😅 You truly are a dope.
It is a pyramidyou know what I don’t give a rip as long as I’m at the top of it
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For the people saying is a pyramid scheme ya'll realize that your working for one 😂 you work for a dollar get a penny climbing the corporate latter kissing ass to the boss and the higher you go the more time you have to give the harder it is to get in either someone dies, retires to get that position open and at the end your boss is making money of you haha
Same thing in an MLM. Your layers of upline is making money off everything you do. Also the CEO of the MLM is also making money off of everything you do. What's the difference?
@@JohnBowl14690 the difference is my boss doesn’t t have my back and helping me how to get where they at but I dont expect you to understand 🤙 every one is right through their own perspective, cheers mate
@@enriquesada100 - I know quite a bit about Amway. My close friend was involved with it for 8 years. Sadly, he has nothing to show for it. But I wouldn't expect you to understand. Cheers mate.
@@JohnBowl14690 I understand people get involved into things like the gym and got nothing to show for it does that mean the gym doesn’t work or the people don’t lmao 🤣 is called lazy cheers my guy
@@enriquesada100 - Only .7% in Amway make over $19K per year. That's not including expenses. Sounds to me like 99.3% are lazy. What a disgusting place to work! 99.3% of the people are lazy and and don't have the drive to earn a decent salary. Wow! Cheers dude!!!
Pyramid scheme
AMway is a scam and fraud. your just making the company rich lol
yes many still live in the STONE AGE
eleni f. Vlachou u dissing him or me? Haha
Rod Adelantar you clearly didn't watch the video or know what a pyramid scheme is.
Juliet Kunai what's a pyramid?