'Bitching and moaning' Dolphins get no sympathy from Paul Kent | NRL 360 FOX League
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Paul Kent has called out new NRL franchise the Dolphins after struggling to recruit players for their inaugural season.
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Paul Kent accusing others of "bitching and moaning" will never not be hilarious
I don't get this argument that they should be instantly a strong side. They need to earn it by building up the club first.
I don't get that theres this conception they wont b
The argument makes sense for a club in a AFL state. You need fast success to build a fan base. Dolphins don't fit that argument because they can struggle for a few seasons and still be supported.
@@loufrost824 If the last two expansions in RL heartland have created absolute trash teams, who's gonna take an expansion in Perth or Adelaide or New Zealand seriously in the future? Have you ever met a Titans supporter? I haven't. Why would people turn out for those teams if there's a track record of new teams sucking massive dong? Who's gonna want to play for those teams? It only makes attracting star players harder in the future, which makes generating excitement around the club that much harder. Even in RL heartland this happens. It is better for the sport if new clubs get a boost early on to generate some hype, because public perception is the name of the game when starting out.
It was REECE WALSHE that said he wanted to go back to the broncos. He never wanted to go to the dolphins. He got to choose who he negotiated with and he chose the broncs. You just wanna run with the story that the NRL is failing this new club
Onya, Gillo! Not only that, but 700k to be a marquis player in the spotlight after a massive breakdown in his relationship vs going home to a club he knows, with his mates and a support network in a club that is on the rise for what, 200k less? It's not actually beneficial to get a 700k contract like that
The story that the Warriors told was that he was only permitted to discuss terms with Brisbane Broncos, so going elsewhere was not an issue.
@@johnvienta7622 the ceo said they had asked where Walshe wanted to go and he said to the broncos and they let him negotiate with them. He even clarified this in his latest press conference, stating that broncs was the easiest transition for him to come back to the Brisbane.
@@mattgillet6917 , the point I made, and which was stated by the Warriors CEO during a press conference was that Walsh would only be permitted to leave to join the Broncos. The last time I checked Brisbane and Redcliffe were not separated by a vast distance so i do not see why that would be an issue. According to the League shows it had more to do with the Warriors not liking one of the Dolphins staff who used to work for them.
@@johnvienta7622 fox league push there own fucking agenda, I actually listen to the people who know the fucking facts. Walshe said that he got to choose who he negotiated with and he choose broncos. Warriors and Reece didn't want a media circus about where Reece was going so they said to Reece he has to decide which team he wants to leave too and he said he wants to go to the Broncos. Dolphins were always an option for him and warriors would have let him go there but he said he wanted to go to the Broncos. So get your facts right here
Kenty is such a angry little man. Grumpy smurf has never got praises just a bitter man 🤣🤣🤣🤣
love how the warriors get called a bottom 4 side even though in the past 10 years we’ve only been in bottom 4 3 times
10 months later Dolphin's going great. Paul Kent out of a job🤣🤣
Reese Walsh was being talked about for weeeks by Media, even when he had 2 years left on his contract. "Done Deal" Dolphins can't just poach players. Then an opportunity comes along where Walsh is going to Brisbane and the Dolphins cry because Warriors have a deal with the Broncos. Don't blame the Warriors, the deal may have been before Walsh signed with Warriors, that they get first dibs if he leaves Warriors. Also a player swap was part of the deal, Dolphins can't player swap anyone.
Correct.
Walsh said he wanted to go to Broncs as it wasn't about money and he has always really been a Bronc's lad.
One of Dolphins first moves was to poach supposed recruitment guru Peter O'Sullivan from Warriors so don't expect Warriors to do them any favors in return.
Warriors likely to get TMM and Arthars from Broncs for letting them take Walsh which is a win for both clubs.
END OF STORY even though Anasta now claims Bennett and the Dolphins are some sort of "threat" to other clubs who are supposedly "afraid" of them at present which is so far fetched it defies belief.
Vonny obviously has some sort of interest in Dolphins which clouds her comments.Hell she doesn't even know how employment contracts work.
This 360 show is great comedy but to be fair grumpy Kent got this one right.
@@jackohere1878 Warriors owe them nothing, maybe they're honouring a deal with the Broncs when he went over. That happens, West Tigers got Harry Grant for a season and that deal was public but it doesn't have to be public.
Or maybe he doesn't want to join a new club????? They're acting very entitled.
Be very wary dolphins that Wayne Bennett doesn't do a Newcastle job on you !
Newcastle was the owners fault you muppet anyone who blames Bennett shows they have a severe lack of knowledge when it comes to what happened there
Kenty gets the last word in with the reality check to the cliche
Proven winners always prevails. Bennet will have his eyes and ears on the ground for fresh talent. Money ball style.
They don't need immediate success. The local base will support a dud team for a few years.
They're not entitled to players they may want and it would seem players don't want to go there, tough crap lifes not fair. Clubs that have contracted players are perfectly entitled to keep them
They already have signed a handful of international players they'll be fine its a storm in a tea cup also some players have agreed but haven't gone public until the season ends
@@jest3167 Yep. People are overestimating the "lack of talent" in the Phins. They nabbed two stand-out young players from NSWRL and with their forward pack they could easily create the space for anyone in key positions to do their job.
Bully boy is back. Love the way PK just can’t deal with Bennett. Phil and Yvonne were considered and thoughtful which is something bully boy can’t deal with. I quit this show last year and when Braith came on as host I started watching again. Time for a break I think if this aggressive behaviour begins again.
Yvonne would not be saying the same if it was not the Plins.
So is Canterbury..
You can tell Kenty hates Wayne's guts and wants to see him loose so bad😂😂
Just look at the weekly attacks the Broncos were getting when Wayne was back there
Could it be as a result of working with Ikin, and Ikin's hatred of Wayne has rubbed off.
@@johnvienta7622 nope it's self hatred due to being a scum jurno ,Wayne is notorious for infuriating jurnos
His still getting a pretty hefty lump of coin. What if he doesn't want the burden of being a marquee player at a brand new club at such a young age with no guarantees compared to broncos who now look like a top 6 or even top 4 level side with Reynolds and a heap of guys he probably already knows.
I'm sure he will make plenty of money over his time to more then support his daughter and her daughters daughter, sometimes the expectation of them contracts at such a young age is the worst thing especially If u went with ur money over heart
Just add a draft to the league. Warriors/ NZ players are getting poached every year stunting the growth of the club. While other clubs not only have solid development but also have the convenience to snatch players from NZ. A draft helps lift lower tier clubs to offer a better overall product.
If he's such a super coach he should have no problem taking some nobody's and turn them into good player's instead of trying to buy the good one's
True, and i have little doubt that he would be capable of that. It is programmes like NRL360 that push the line that there must be instant success. When the Broncos started Wayne said that it would take 5 years to win a Grand Final and he was correct.
The audacity of Yvonne to try and blame the Warriors for this mess.
They are letting Reece leave early on compassionate grounds so he can stay with his little girl - NOT so he can make more money.
He's earned more than enough to support his family, and to try and take a shot at the Warriors for not being compassionate enough is a joke.
The only thing dolphins are really missing is a fullback and 5/8 and if they sign Milford they only need the fullback. The fact there not going for Martin is puzzling to me
Milford will be the fullback
1. Anthony Milford
2. Edrick Lee
3. Connelly Lemuelu
4. Jamayne Isaako
5. Robert Jennings
6. Isaiya Katoa
7. Sean O'Sullivan
8. Jessie Bromwich
9. Jeremy Marshall-King
10. Mark Nicholls
11. Felise Kaufasi
12. Euan Aitken
13. Kenny Bromwich
14. Ray Stone
15. Jarrod Wallace
16. Tom Gilbert
17. JJ Colins
@@WTC-1990 Jennings is more likely to play centre, and Katoa ain't ready to start at 6 he would need to be bench first and Milford won't play fullback in a Wayne Bennet system unless it's absolutely vital
@@WTC-1990 Euan Aitken is also more likely to play centre over lemuelu.
@@WTC-1990 I don't understand, Dolphins on paper dont even have that bad of a team. This line up would flog the Tigers.
@@mattgillet6917 Connelly Lemuelu is younger, I'd put the young buck at Centre over the older guy that's also playing backrow
Watched 360 for the first time in a year last night, turned it off after 5 minutes. It's unwatchable. Kent is just painful to listen to, does anyone on earth actually enjoy hearing this bloke's opinions?
1:30, I wish that when they mention the draft, they would also mention that it is 'illegal' under Australian Law.
Why do League commentators consistently treat this as a secret.
Funny how any club Bennett gets involved with or coaches (including Warriors) gets everyone pulling tantrums 🤣🤣😂
why tf r all these reporters making it out as if the Dolphins starting 17 is full on inexperienced teenagers, look at the talent they've got in that side already, some of the best performing players across multiple teams. The Dolphins best 17 rn would probably beat half the teams in the comp
I think that it would be fair to give them a salary cap boost for a few years, maybe starting at 1M which is essentially 1 A tier player, then maybe it tapers down over 3 years to 600k then 300k. Etc..
I doubt that would turn them into a instant top 4 side or anything but it helps to try keep them from coming dead last and be In risk of failing hard
I actually thought bennet would start off with dolphins back bone players with maybe a few high end players for the 1st year or so.I didn’t realise they where trying to get a top 8 team straight away.
"We don`t need another bottom 4 club in this comp" says Buzz. If the Dolphins finish higher than 14th, won`t that push another club into the bottom 4? Or is there some mystical way of preventing all 17 clubs from occupying positions 14-17? This inane discussion perfectly illustrates what`s wrong with the culture of RL as distinct from AFL. NRL clubs promote winning, they don`t promote the comp as a whole or the game of RL.
Dolphins won't finish higher than 14th. They will be in the bottom 4 so what are you exactly talking about?
Yeah good point I didn’t even pick that up.
@@TheJuicyjunk If the Dolphins finish in the bottom 4 that (according to Buzz) will be terrible for them and the comp. If they finish above 14th, an existing franchise will drop into the bottom 4, and that would be similarly terrible for that club and the comp. If any club finishing in positions 14-17 is automatically portrayed as terrible for those clubs and the comp, it logically follows the NRL can never progress. That`s what I`m talking about - relentlessly stupid negativity from NRL media.
Kenty,s always been a hard taskmaster
The irony
The Dolphins already have one of the best forward packs in the comp and from reports will have Milford and Nikorima in the halves and Bennett got the Broncos to the finals with those 2 players in the halves and Boyd playing busted at the back with a worse forward pack then the Dolphins will have so all the doom and gloom is over nothing not saying they'll win the comp year 1 but I see them being competitive with Bennett
Someone needs to tap Paul Kent on the shoulder and move him on mans gone a few seasons too many IMO just holds way too many grudges and because of it he doesn't promote the game in any form because he has too many agendas going on
If a player breaks contract early to go to the Dolphins the NRL needs to pay the difference rather than the losing club.
Makes it easy for clubs to offload expensive, underperforming players without taking a financial hit.
The Dolphins get potential access to players already on contract to sign for next season.
Apparently the Dolphins have been supplying NRL quality players for decades, if this is the case then I see no reason why they can't be signing Redcliffe Dolphins own 1st grade players into the new franchise. They have some good NRL signings so far which really can't be winged at all.
I don't think Kenty knows what hypocrisy means. He continues to say the Phins are hypocritical for being (supposedly) mad about Reece Walsh having a deal that he can't talk to them, but then they go and talk to a player about breaking contract to join them. That's not hypocrisy, it is in fact the opposite. Kent is saying they're hypocrites for getting upset at not being allowed to do what they're already doing, and we're supposed to take this man as an authority somehow? He's an out-and-out fool.
I don’t think old Wayno is looking for sympathy from some nobody😂
Bennett us NOT the man for the Dolphins. He has reached his use by date. It’s clear players don’t want to go there just for him.
Ah, Yvonne, it's great to see you on the panel, but you've got to let this Reece Walsh thing go. He needs stability and not a media circus. His relationship has broken down and he just wants to be there for his kid. He has a support network at the Broncos, probably earns a bit less, but Brisbane might even get a premiership in the next 2 years.
Oi, give the Tigers an extra million and sack their board. The NRL should be doing this first before buggering around with the Dolphins.
The is always talk of how strong the game is in Queensland and how powerful redcliff is yet they can't feild another team is Brisbane if they are not successful from the get go it will make it dificult
Yep.... look at American Football...... the draft works a treat, levels out the talent amongst all teams. The NRL seems incapable of designing their own future..... ho hum
Can't compare the two. NFL players come through the NCAA system and are developed by the colleges. In the NRL, the clubs develop their own juniors and this is where it becomes complex. Teams like the Panthers have a large junior catchment compared to Roosters or Manly, If they lose players to the draft, then there is essentially no incentive to develop them
A draft was proposed in 91 and was challenged by 127 players. It was ruled a constraint of trade and a interference with a players right to negotiate their own lives and future. Would take a mighty legal case to over turn the precedent.
Great to see Yvonne back
It’s simple. Have an expansion draft like USA sports do . Every team has to chuck in 2 players. and the expansion team gets to hook in
Why put the blame on the Warriors for the Reece Walsh situation when he wants to play for the Broncos not the Dolphins lol
I agree, why are the dolphins on a free ride,I understand why the storm got so much help, but why are the dolphins in the nrls pocket Queensland is an NRL state they don't need it, they need to earn it like everyone else
This team will do fine in their first season. Probably not make the finals, but they will do fine!
Short memories of QLD Crushers,western reds,Adelaide rams,Buzz NRL aint fkn AFL,AFL atleast invest in their youngsters nrl doesnt,who wants to be in a new team whos gonna sit on ladder below tigers......
Those were Super League teams playing in a split comp..
Would Walsh have even wanted to go there?
The problem is the Gold Coast, the team that might struggle to is them. Also, do a lot of these guys who have lived in cosmopolitan Sydney and Melbourne want to in Queensland unless you’re from there? It’s not for everyone.
They have players, they will probably have a better side than most teams come round 1. Does buzz want them in the finals 1st year.
Any value in the Dolphins raiding the UK superleage- get enough got a squad for a couple of years and build from there?
Well Bennett said the England winger Tommy Makemson is one of the best in the World and Alex Walmsley is classed as the best prop in SL so throw some money at those 2 and they will be great signings. Also - Andrew Johns has been saying an NRL club should sign Warringtons Clark - all 3 are on top SL money but the NRL money should be able to attract at least 2 of them over.
NRL - where player contracts are signed with a crayon on a dirty serviette
Dolphins will be fine 4 start of 2023, dunno why its become such an issue atm still got least 4 months till nov let alone next season..... they b ok at start of 2023
How doe's everyone feel about creating a second 'championship' comp with a relegation system.. So GF winner of the Championship goes up to the NRL and the wooden spooner club goes back to the championship? Thought??
These guys need to get the show more interesting, Kenty needs to take a swing at Anasta. We need them to fire up
Bennett has been schooled by his son in law Ben Ikin. He thought he could rubbish there broncos and kill the broncos and have all the players come up yeh road, however it’s backfired and Ben Ikin has rebuilt the broncos.
Todd carney is available
Too many teams, bring back reserve grade. Scouts also need to cast thier nets wider, not all talent can go to the select "league schools", good kids are getting over looked because they aren't at the right school. Plenty more Cobbo's out there.
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NRL handle contracts a lot better than the NBA that sport has become I follow a player not a team with the way they handle free agents and trade requests.
Everything Kenty said won't age well. Bit like Ole mate Finchy
Look no one expects any thing from the Dolphins for three years. As long as they are competitive week to week their fans will be happy. After three seasons , look out , they will dominate.
I remember Canberra being trash for at least the first 3 seasons. A rugby league town doesn't need immediate success
Bennett has screwed up a lot of clubs ,, he was sacked from the Broncos ,, as he was arranging pre season camp and took some of Bronco players with him ,, and then he sat with dometris and was laughing his head off ,, dancing in the dressing sheds ,,,,,,,,,,, Karma I say
They helped the Storm...
They had to or they'd never build a fanbase without early success.
Dolphins can struggle for a bit because it's a league stronghold.
Reece didn’t want to go to the dolphins ffs
He’s come out and said he wanted to go to the broncos and he loves the club.
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Can you please get rid of Paul Kent!
He is always ANGRY and talking over people!
HE has some serious anger issues.
Which is not a great look for footy fans like me.
Who just wants an even discussion on the events of the rugby league day.
There is never a positive feed on here about him🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️TOSSER!!!
When Reece Walsh said couldn’t live in NZ the Warriors said he could negotiate with the Broncos.
When Matt Lodge said he couldn’t live in NZ the warriors paid him out for the rest of his contract (700k) and he was free to negotiate with any club.
Your clowning yourself If you think Reece choose to solely negotiate with Broncos. Hella petty move by Warriors management.
Being A bit unfair on the warriors they gave Walsh a start he was playing reserve grade on minimum wage the warriors Spring boarded his career. They didnt have to release him but cleary they nagotiated with the Broncos for other players so it makes alot of sense. Don't feel sorry for reece 350K a year at 19?I'm sure he will do just fine.
As For the Lodge debarcle what a Joke totally screws there cap for next year.Why would they then want to help o'sullivan and the Dophins??
@@Phyic18 The Warriors management having an issue with O'sullivan and the Dolphins shouldn’t get in the way of an individuals (Reece) decision to negotiate with another team. Again as my first comment shows, the hypocrisy from the Warriors is astounding.
@@cloudy-daze8858 The walsh and lodge situation are completely different walsh was signed for the 2023 season lodge had a option in his favour which he choose not to take up.....but still got paid out for how does that work?
While in part I agree it would seem petty from warriors management but the Broncos were offering them players in return for releasing walsh. Dophins were not. Are you saying if u were warriors management u would have said no to the Broncos player swap deal and just let Reece break contact and go where ever?
@@Phyic18 The deal is Reece to Broncos 350k a year. Its misleading to state in your previous comment “Why would they then want to help o'sullivan and the Dophins??” And not grasp the fact that, that is the basis of the deal.
Tigers need 2 go get Paul Green and give him a 4yr deal
Tim Sheen's is the man, I bet the board blows it and signs Trent Barret to a 10yr deal.
There not even in the comp yet and there crying. Another crap qld team that will fold.
Go to England grab some half's n forwards n get the local lads in the 2row and backs easy lol
Fox.flogs getting the story wrong yet again. Reece Walsh told the Warriors he wanted to go the Broncos so the Warriors agreed to release him if he negotiated a deal with the Broncos. That's fair seeing as they could of said no way we will not release you. Get it right you muppets.
Benjamin 👴Bennett
Sam Burgess coming out of retirement?
No, for coaching purposes.
Kenty is not a smart kent
Why not pick the best players from super league 🤷♂️
A lot of clubs are, it won't be a Dolphins exclusive poaching ground.
@@loufrost824 oh yeah i know that but if dolphins are struggling to recruit nrl players maybe stop and head to england ah
Boo hoo hoo .get on with it already...we will find out Wayne's value in due time....Reece Walsh= 1 try this year and he's been walked over plenty.just sayin
Luckily nobody gives a #### what Kenty thinks so yet another waste of time.
Dolphins is a weak name
Should’ve just got the old south Queensland crushers back !
Has a lot more back bone
Then dolphins , fire hawks - sound like little girl teams an barely marketable
Seems to work fine in Miami
Rabbits are soft and weak, yet they are the most successful team.
@@turboteddy4912 there name has something dolphins an fire hawks don’t over 100 years or pride these clubs don’t
Lol and they still win there first game haha
WESTS TIGERS!!!! JUSTIN PASCOE AND THE BOARD NEED 2 LEAVE, LUKE BROOKS CAN ALSO GO FIND SOMEWHERE WHERE HE WILL BE HAPPY AND NOT USED AS A SCAPEGOAT WHEN TIGERS DONT WIN
Lol
Kenty telling it like it is😄😄
Can't believe people watch this sensationalised crap.
Dolphins looking like a qld cup team. Certainty for the spoon