South Africa's Afrikaner people: Past, present, and future
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- Опубликовано: 18 июл 2017
- The architects of the apartheid system were the Afrikaner people. They've been in the country for hundreds of years, though, and their history is a rich one. So, where do they fit into a South Africa that's been free for more than two decades? Lindy Mtongana has more
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the dude with the brown jacket , gives one hope.
The anglo-boer war is what caused so many of today's problems in south africa. The afrikaners had two small republics, the zulus had their kingdom, the brits had the cape colony and natal. Then the British, after bringing total war, scorched earth and concentration camps in order to win that war, forced everyone into a union with the whole of SA and then the brits basically left the mess of that conflict for the Afrikaners to deal with. What could anyone have done in that situation?
Amere Garsun could you elaborate more on that?
I am proudly Orange Free State!!
Another case of the british tearing apart a country. I swear that without the boer wars apartheid would not have happened, literally the main reason the national party won elections in the first place was anti-british sentiment
@@francoiswilliams NEUQUEN CHUBUT ARGENTINA
@@danielasterling6936 Cool, praat jy Afrikaans daar? English?
I love Afrikaans. I'm learning it now. Such an amazing people and language. I'd love to visit some day. ✌️🙂
Joseph James. Learn when they start dien in there memories
Plz do...where u now bruh?
Dankie
"The architects of the apartheid system were the Afrikaner people" This is false. The architect of Apartheid was Hendrik French Verwoerd, a Dutch born Sociologist and Politician, not an Afrikaner.
I didn't know his origins. Every Afrikaner I have ever met has been a well brought up person with strong boundaries but with a deep respect for others
Exactly
Unfortunately not true. Verwoerd was born in the Netherlands but moved to South Africa at the age of 2. So nice try. If you still don’t understand - that makes him a first generation Afrikaaner. He grew up Afrikaaner and went to Stellenbosch University. Furthermore, he was a member of the National Party - Apartheid was implemented under this party and not under Verwoerd. People confuse the architects with implementation but it infact comes from the fact that Verwoerd was an academic that believed all humans have equal capability, he actually argued that environment played a major factor in the development of people. He was an Afrikaaner who believed that Afrikaaner’s should take care of themselves first.
Actually, it was the British who created the original Apartheid framework. The Afrikaaner built on the framework.
Did they?! Are you sure about this ? I'm British by the way, but born and bred in Great Britain.
Megalodon Unlocked old Winston sure left a legacy.
google Hendrik Verwoerd, Eugen Terreblanche, and tell us is he British?
feeling ashamed of your unfortunate past
Thank you. Atleast someone knows their history
The Voortrekkers had absolutely zero to do with apartheid
@Nanda Das NEUQUEN CHUBUT ARGENTINA
The guy with the beard is right. Black South Africans are angry and all it needs is an acknowledgment of that anger. Afrikaans are a beautiful people who were basically threatened by everyone in their quest to live and feel a sense of belonging. Obviously they were positioned at those ports just to service passing ships hanging in limbo whilst doing so. It seems the English just couldn’t help themselves!
Aftikaans people
Yes, I would love to see them together, they are born there they are South African so they need to go forward together.
Yebo
Baie mooi Za
As a person who has interacted with different race groups in SA for a lot of my life, including in smaller towns/cities, where the ethos of the Group Areas Act was unconsciously entrenched right up to 2016; my understanding of South Africa and South Africans is that the masses have complete understanding, tolerance, respect and empathy for each other in everyday life.
The problem is that, whether it's the private sector, public sector or the government as a whole; it's the leadership of those 3, who have power and influence, that continue to drive the racial agenda that filters down. This is where only people of certain race groups are employed in leadership roles of those 3 pillars, so the other racial groups feel alienated; or where politicians make blanket statements about other race groups because it suits their narrative to remain relevant to their respective groups of followers/supporters. This conduct gets media attention and influences the neutrals, but on the whole, it genuinely doesn't affect the way that most South Africans view their neighbours, co-workers, friends and even family members of different races - but we don't see the interaction of mixed races on a daily basis in the media spotlight because it's everyday life, which will get boring very quickly.
Support Afrikaans.
Minlenguite17 Guite I support them dien off or leave
I would like to see them make their own country.
@@roadforrunner : It will never happen.
@@crazychicSHENA Woah! Calm down. Are you even from South Africa? People like you are the reason why the country of has the problems it has now. Afrikaners are there to stay. They have been on the continent for a long time now and it's their home as much as the black Africans. If we want to use your formula, would you support the deportation or genocide of all non-ethnic Europeans from Europe too?
Afrikaans people
Actually, Apartheid had it's roots in British rule.
Regso
The Afrikaaner government created Arparthied buddy.
@@kaseywatson7281
Of course but as usual blame it on the British, Bantu education, forced removals, influx control,bantustans and pass laws all came under the EUROPEAN nazikaner nationalists.
It's not an easy topic at all. ..when injustices still occur
Belo país. Que a Suid-Afrika volte a se desenvolver.
I hate generalizations, even though I'm sometimes guilty of that myself. Apartheid wasn't any whole group of any political, racial or ethnic groups fault. It was mostly a gang of thugs and pseudo intellectuals, the Ossewa Brandwag, an offshoot of British Freemasonry tailored to the Afrikaner palate who pushed that agenda, as far as I can tell.
And the Zulu didn’t have a problematic relationship with South Africa?
Zulus
South Africa should forget about their past in order to build their country s future. They should come together as one and contribute their individual skills . It can be very hard to forgive among black people and also can be difficult to accept the changed circumstances among whites. Only if they work together that's when they can overcome their hardship in both black and white community.
Ahmad Rajab, you cannot just forget the past, in the same way the holocaust cannot be forgotten, however the Africans should look to the future and the Europeans must recognize the suffering and pain apartheid caused and shouldn't trivialize and dismiss all the injustices, that way it will help black South Africans to move on. Many Africans are still angry and resentful due to European South Africans being unrepentant, by whites acknowledging the hurt the bitterness will be reduced.
Reconciliation is important.
Ik what you mean bruh. Ik they gotta stick together and harmonize. But stating 'South Africa should forget the past' that's so irresponsible for the people who were suffered. What if blacks or coloureds create their own style of apartheid?? They almost got it when Zuma was on. In my country, there's a quote ppl like to cite 'no future for the people who forgot the history' which is proven bcuz we make same mistake that we did over and over. Keep the lessons alive in your heart. You wanna forgive the past but you don't wanna forget the past.
@@deadpool113
Agree as the saying goes those who forget the past are bound to repeat it.
Africans need to move on but whites need to acknowledge the hurt caused and atone. Thst way everyone wins. The truth and reconciliation commission needed to happen.
@@maureenjackson2041 The problem is that most blacks in SA today did not suffer under apartheid, and most whites alive today were not involved with apartheid, at all. The hate and injustice of the past is being rekindled in the hearts of the newer generation because the older one doesn't want to let go, learn from it and move on.
It makes sense that they didnt build it @0:02, they allegedly just arrived, so how?
Wasnt that part of land called Ethiopia, then named Afrika via their language Afrikaan??
Tunisia/Cartherage was northern, was it not???
Shouldnt we know what happened before the 7th century????
ek lief suid afrika een dag alle mense bly in vryheid in Suid Afrika swart, wit, indiers, kleurlinge
2:50 Scapegoat
Created by the English.
British
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3:28 I completely agree
let 2020 be better.
Well this comment didn't age well
Their the best, and most productive of South Africa.
Normalisation between opposing communities can come if they decide to kiss one another's hands at the time of meeting. It will be a gesture of mutual respect.
afrikaners have the right to live in south africa just blacks africa la not blacks yes there are the majority but look at the northern africa people are not blacks in many countries there are not black people i am black too but blacks are very racist Europe le white continent but there plenty black people who live so dont say shit
yrotarra sabata you're not black
Why do the South African Dutch call themselves Afrikaners.... isn't this indenting theft
@@digitalfarmingtv no. African is Afrikaan, Cape Dutch is Afrikaner.
The smartest thing I have heard from a white male in the context of reconciliation 3.28 and 5.16. If only more Afrikaners shared same sentiment!
The fun is over guys.
It's Just beginning.
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The search hard to get this woke group.
What a mess.
SA erupted into lawlessness, crime, rape, rampant poverty and political chaos when Mandela took over. My mom told me many stories of how bad Apartheid was, then how much worse it became after Mandela's election.
So your point is that the country was better off with apartheid in place?
@@glamchick2013 In many ways yes.
@@justynjonn
Not really South Africa was a police state in which only a minority benefited and were privileged. Yes you had order but no justice or democracy.
@@justynjonn
Africans lived on slums and poverty during apartheid.
@@justynjonn 🤣🤣🤣🤣 yes in apartheid crime, rape, and violence against black People
You have to change the way you coming foreign country black people leave let leave
There are just too many lies here to respond to, but I will address the main ones. The Afrikaners did not go on the Great Trek. The Boer people of the northeastern Cape frontier went on the Great Trek. The Cape Dutch Afrikaners in fact RIDICULED the Boers fro going on the Great Trek & called them heretics. The Dutch Reformed Church even FORBADE them from going on the Great Trek. The Cape Dutch of the south western Cape were pro Colonial while the Boer people of the northeastern Cape frontier were historically anti-colonial & got started as a people on the Cape frontier out of an anti-colonial sentiment. The Vootrekker Monument was not built "to commemorate" the trek as much as it was really built as part of a program to co-opt the marginalized Boer people [ who are outnumbered by the Cape Dutch ] & to prevent them from wanting to restore their old Boer Republics. The term " White South African" is yet another misnomer because the Boer people existed LONG before South Africa & also before the formal arrival of the Colonial powers & even before the political notion of a supposed "White" population. The one dimensional notion that a diverse population group can be named after a colour is an obtuse categorization.
Die Skrif het julle gewaarsku, Vader se Woord en het julle die weg van bileam gevolg. Daarom sal julle ook die straf moet ontvang soos Vader vir ons voorskryf in Sy Woord. Welgeluksalig is die een wat Vader se Woord nakom want die sal die land van melk en heuning erf. Hos 4:6 My volk gaan te gronde weens gebrek aan kennis; omdat jy die kennis verwerp het, sal Ek jou verwerp, sodat jy vir My die priesteramp nie sal bedien nie; omdat jy die wet van jou God vergeet het, sal Ek ook jou kinders vergeet.
Hoe lyk dit my die Skrif praat direk met die jonger grslag. Keer terug die tyd raak min. En daar sal 'n geringe oorblyfsel wees wat skuiling soek by Vader se Naam! Wees grwaarsku Boervolk, kom onder die ander uit anders gaan die oordele julle ook tref! Vir 40 jaar is die Volk gewaarsku en nou het die tyd aan gebreek.
1:02 "Apartheid was created by the Afrikaners"
False! The Afrikaner-dominated government in 1948 merely named the segregation system that was actually enacted and practiced by the British. All the Afrikaners did was take power under their belief of white privilege. The sad part is that the Afrikaners were just as much victims of British barbarity as were the coloureds, Xhosa, Zulus, Ndebeles, and other native Africans.
1:26 B R U H
Afrikaans people
Afrikaans???
"White man speaks with forked tongue." Native American saying - but is it still
applicable in these current times ?
Afrika altoos BO! Proudly Afrikaner and African...yebo!!
Oh please why don't you people stop saying you're African you people honestly think your equally as African as everyone else well I have news you're not and never will be you and your people are still European im getting fed up with beers claiming to be African.
@@maureenjackson2041 Born in Africa, so I'm African...
@@henryford6804
No you are just a SOUTH African of European extraction, your people are not indigenous to Africa
And with the Afrikaners transgressions against blacks no way should they be considered African by ANY blacks.
@@henryford6804 so if you were born in Asia be Asian? Your a white south African your not African.
@@kaseywatson7281
Exactly, why do they keep on claiming an African identity, when so many of these Afrikaners don't want anything to do with blacks, wont interact with blacks,don't even speak an African language, and look down on anything African.
They are also unrepentant about their past trangressions. They are indeed NOT AFRICAN they're just white South Africans, why can't they leave it at that.
i dont think it is that whites dont want to interact with Blacks for example, i work in the middle of a South African city, i mostly see african people around me during my work hours and talk and work with them the only problem is when you start walking the streets around my work place, you have to be aware what is around you, people get mugged and crime is a big problem, i dont think alot of white people feel very safe in a south african township or certain rural areas if we had less crime in south african cities, i am sure people of all races wont be scared to move around in all areas, at the moment it is not going to happen
Don't like it? Then leave!
Neanderthal Extinction - Maybe because countries like Canada declares that whites can't get refugee status from SA.
Cheesycurve 54, I wouldn't like it the white European population decreases again. And you're right, not only are most whites not economically able to leave, but also the majority of them, their families have lived in South Africa for generations.
Last of all, not all Afrikaners supported apartheid. And I think by the late 1980s, many Afrikaners were switching to voting for the Democratic party in the 1989 general election, including a Afrikaner majority suburb of Johannesburg named Linden, where the Democratic party won the by election in 1989.
White South Africans overall by the 1980s, were against the continuation of apartheid, particularly younger people, thus the majority of the over-20 year old electorate in the 1987 election did not vote the anti apartheid Progressive Federal Party. Although I am aware that the 1983 referendum on the creation of representative houses for Indians and Coloureds shows the majority of whites favoured power sharing with over racial groups.
Are gays safe in SA? Is it okay to express their affection in public?
Yeah actually, SA is by far the safest for gays in Africa/World
Live and let live is the attitude. Some may hold extremely tight to the Bible's view on the issue but the majority won't care.
Blacks talk English, are educated, dressed in native-English dresses, and do not look tribal at all.
As the trainer class, the whites could be allowed the right to keep some private space in the form of beaches and schools to retain and preserve their quality systems. It would only be a show of expressing gratitude to all the quality enhancement that the Whites had given (not all whites from CEurope).
It might be good and healthy to allow the whites to have their own beaches and schools. If they do not feel insecure, they will continue to share their quality.
However, if they are pushed out, they will leave today or tomorrow. Then the blacks will go under the blacks.
How many blacks would love that? Once the black nation collapses, the Asians will takeover. Asian slavery is a totally different experience.
Isn't this what is happening?
They got to go! Haitian Revolution style.
Disgusting comment, utterly disgusting!
H TeQ The EFF will take over the country next year. First, they will nationalise all the economic powers that the minority whites control. Second, they will put all the white leaders in prison. Make them suffer the same fate Mandela went through. Reinstitute a reverse apathaid. The EFF will unite Africa to become a United States of Africa and deport all the whites or just dump them all in the India ocean. Karma is a butch!
And Haiti is such a wonderful place to be isn't it haha
Haiti is a dump. So much for your revolution.
Yes. You can't have a full revolution without bloodshed. Right now there are still Africans that still see Europeans as Gods. We destroy that physiological block by winning our freedom in Jamaica up close and personal with guns and machetes.
When granddad was killed because he a ' black' that spoke back. How the eff do I even think of anything else. I still hate the Afrikaans language
they need to demolish all the Afrkaner/British monuments.
Why?
Only if you want open war with the Afrikaner
They're a nuisance
and columbus discovered north america