STOP This!! You Are Ruining Clutches!!
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- Опубликовано: 13 фев 2024
- This video is a general overview of what long distance riding in CVT clutch vehicles will do to the clutches themselves.
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Next time I can’t sleep , I’ll just listen to your silky smooth monologues about clutches 😂
Good idea!!
Seriously great accent and speaking tempo
So the solution to avoiding ruining your transmission when just driving your UTV is to get a Honda Talon or Yamaha YXZ. Who'd have thought these things were built so poorly that you can't even simply just drive it at a constant speed?
Especially when they cost as much as an actual truck. 40k for some of them that’s crazy.
That’s why I bought a talon. All shaft no rubber baby 😎
They are all built poorly, just some are worse than others.
It’s all in what they are designed for I crawl and do a lot of hill climbing and and talon and us both suck for that because the manual or automatic doesn’t put the power down the way you want like a cvt does. If you want to cruise the highways go buy a car
obviously you don't understand a cvt transmission. 99% don't understand.
Thank you for posting this, very helpful information.
If youre referring to the photos I sent after the swap, I didnt do that. It was the previous owner. Lol😂 The new clutches are awesome, takes off with good power and smooth. Very happy with the set up. Thabk you for your time in answering all my questions. Sincerely, Scott
Thanks for sharing this info. Most companies would not tell everyone so they can sell more clutches and belts. That is why I have been putting your products on my RZR 1000. Hunterworks kicks ass!!
I appreciate that, I am telling you so when you buy our stuff it lasts and does not get a bad name because you are using it wrong but it works for us all.
Everyone talking about a jeep in here... The mid 90s suzuki sidekick is where it's at. AC, heat, 110 Hp. Same weight as a polaris expidition.
Needs an altered ego lift, 33s, and a full service to be extremely capable.
400hp and longtravel is fine, but I miss mine to just beat on and still get 20 mpg.
I have flex posted before but the HW belt is pure gold...I got 7000 KM's on my first one with a OEM clutch. I am very soft on the throttle and always vary speeds and rarely max out. I am a old fuddy duddy out there but the way I look at it, I am there to be there and not in a hurry to be somewhere else.
I ride my general 1000 on the road pretty frequently. Used to ride a Honda trx450r all over the place on the road. What I’ve always done is constantly vary the rpm’s and load. Don’t hold it steady like a car or a Harley. It’s a sxs it doesn’t have gears BUT you can still ride em on the road just be in and out of the throttle constantly and don’t hold it at the same rpm. Haven’t had a problem yet with general or race bike
The only belt drive toys I own are snowmobiles, cooling of the clutches is an issue even in the winter, they get hot. Usually ride off trail in the mountains in Montana. Trail riding the flat lands may be less of an issue, I don't know. I like my Honda 500 atv with a transmission.
Yeah, I can confirm that trail riding in general is a non-issue for snowmobiles. Even in Michigan (flat), deep snow riding can kill belts simply due to the reduction of cooling air.
This is why SxS's in the desert will often run without a clutch cover on at all (or a clutch cage instead of a cover).
I’m a novice and I really appreciate this advice. Thanks man 2023 Polaris RZR trail s 1000 300km so this will help.
Just as I thought. Really don't like riding on the asphalt. Tough on tires, and as you have now added, or opened eyes to, hard on clutches. Should be getting my new clutches and belt from Hunterworks today. My old oem clutch finally getting replaced, only had 5600 miles on it! Ha ha, guess I got my moneys worth out of those. Always appreciate your videos, Todd. Thanks for taking the time to make them. I tried to make one ONCE!, thought it would be useful information for those who needed it. Decided I didn't have a month to do the "job" of making the video. So, I finished my project in an hour, and the video didn't get produced. Thanks again Todd.
Videos are not easy to do that is for sure and glad we were able to help you out.
Appreciate hearing your knowledge from experience!👍
You are vey welcome Todd
So true, well said. Couldn't agree more!
Thanks I appreciate that. Gave me something to think about.
Great info …I have preached this quite a lot . No matter the brand Polaris or Can Am etc that going 10+ miles at 70-80 is tough on belt drives cause if the massive heat build up. I know the DCT is annoying in slower technical terrain but I hope Can Am moves the Maverick R transmission into the X3s very soon.
Cvt is king in off-road application. Buy a car if you wanna drive long distances
@@austinr09 I’ve ridden CVTs since 1998 I’m well aware of where they shine and don’t . Problem is a lot of National trail systems in our area require long distance high speed travel if you’re going to cover much of the systems .
Of course the smooth power delivery is better , but durability/reliability is the downfall.
@@austinr09 Some of us live in states where ATV and SXS are street legal. I can drive my ATV 20 miles into town on the main road doing 65mph. They are all over down town, especially in the summers. Heck today on the way home there was at least 5 SXS at the gas station in middle of town.
@@27Zangle That’s friggin awesome lol
Just the video I needed to come across. I’m new to the SXS/UTV world, even though I’ve always had some kind of 4x4 in my garage. I’m learning these are different vehicles with different dynamics. Thanks for your insight, new sub here.
I really appreciate it
good video just bought a new ranger 1000 and don,t know much about UTV I use it around the yard and rock roads
Todd Eldridge most definitely knows his clutch stuff. These guys have it down pat on how to fix and build you the almost perfect clutch you can get. But cvt will never be spot on absolute perfect. But Todd can get the best you’re gonna get. He has helped me allot with my turbo pro.
Thank you sir, I certainly try!! Todd
Thanks for the info as I wasn't aware.
Thanks for that info!
Thats all we do is road ride. No trails, have to trailer them hours away for trail ridding. We all have them plated and ride 80 to 100 miles on road every time we go ridding. Just don't go much over 40 or 45. 2023 rzr xp1000. Just couldn't buy Honda, they need major update on all there SXS Dash and interior are to dated. Bought it mainly for campground use and ridding around town. Already have it in back my mind new clutch every couple years.
Unfortunately many riding areas require some road riding to get to the trail heads, Tackett Creek being the worst from my perspective, we often spend 35 minutes or more on the road to get to the trail head. Sounds like after those trips we should do some clutch maintenance
Tackett does require a bunch if road riding.
But you are not running wide open at the same speed doing that. I have made that run countless times.
When I started riding quads and 3 wheelers back in the late 80's they were all of the auto ctlutch manual shift arrangement (honda's and yamaha's mostly), ran the living guts out of those machines and never did much if anything more than put gas in them and go and maybe if lucky would check the oil if ya just happend to think about it, never cleaned an air filter untill it was so plugged it wasn't running quite right so give it a new spark plug cleen the air filter change the oil and go for a couple more years, never had jack s**t for problems with stators or engine computers or cdi boxes or clutch belts and clutches having issues just nothing they just kept on going like the energizer bunny, then I started moving into the newer machines with all the bells and whisles (have had a couple yamaha grizzly's a kawasaki, a can am and a polaris, fuel injection cvt automatics power steering yada yada yada and since then I have to spend a crap load more time dick around with maitainence and belt/clutch issues and stators and ecm's and other crap giving issues, so now I am down to 2 quads in my garage one is the last cvt type drive machine, it's an old 2005 kawasaki 360 prarie that has been a maintenence pain from the day I got it always needing some sort of constant tinkering on something to keep everything working as it should, and it has been parked for almost a year now because the stupid thing went into that ridiculas belt limp mode kawasaki designed it with AGAIN for the bazillionth time in the 9 years I have had it, it seems to do this at least once a year requiring a new belt and if you measure the belt it is just so barely out of spec, even let the dealer do the job a couple times just to see if it was me doing something wrong but same results insued, this last time it did this crap and why it is parked now the belt is only 6 months old, to be fair it has been used to snowplow my 75 foot long driveway but not hard at all we rarely get more than 6 or 8 inches of snow and the drive is down hill out to where I push the snow into a ravine, just putting it in neutral with the plow down it will near push a full plow of snow to the bottom, it takes more effort coming back up with the plow raised, and I always use low range because it is kinda tight area and want to move slow anyhow, well it is going to get fixed this spring and sold because it has been replaced with an even older 1997 Arctic cat 454 bearcat that is an abosulute tank of a quad , 5 speed auto clutch manual trans with high/low range selector that is all direct hook to the engine with no cables lickages or crap to go bad or need maintainence no stupid belts and cvt clutches to slip and need work, no stupid safety switches for everything you can think of, compared to that kawasaki or even the 700 grizzly I had that Arctic cat is like comparing a bulldozer to a mini pickup in how much work it can do what it can pull and so on, in the year I have had it I have seriously worked and rode the living dog snot out of it and it hasn't even given a slight groan of complaint, hell I've pulled and pushed with the plow stuff that would have the smoke billowing from the belt of even that 700 grizzly, but that Arctic cat just did it, and without more input from me than putting gas in it, I'll gladly shift some gears for the trade off,, and as soon as I find one I will be buying another good running one for a parts supply if nothing else because I am done with the over complicated expensive to work on and maintain and overpriced new crap they can shove the right strait up thier colons, the circle is complete and I am home again where I can spend more time riding and working with it than working on it while keeping way more money in my wallet instead of someone elses.
This is why I stuck to owning a Jeep over a sxs. If I want to do a technical trail that’s 20 miles from my house I’d either have to trailer a sxs or rag it out on the road to get to the trail.
Sounds like you live too close to the trail, could get a trailer and go ride LOL
@@Hunterworks if I can get the $$ together I’d love to have both the Jeep and a sxs with a trailer. That’s my plan anyway. It’ll take a while but that’s the way it goes.
Good information! I had my clutch rebuilt at 6000 miles on my KRX.
My krx has 2200 miles. One belt and two clutches so far. It is not fit for my riding style.
I'm glad I learned this early on. 4000 miles on original clutch and weights
I noticed this also on my General XP. Its not technically "road legal" but if you're not acting a fool, the cops don't usually mess with you, but after having gone across the county a couple times it always like to throw either a belt code or a O2 code. So after its done it twice now we just trailer it to and from.
You need the over travel washer
My old Suzuki is a dual range 5 speed manual. That bypasses all this consideration. BUT my state is really restrictive on ATVs on the road anyway.
Excellent vid. Totally agree. In my experience with sleds, when I used to do a ton of groomed trail riding with my kids and followed the posted speed limits (50kph/30mph) I could destroy a clutch and secondary in one season!
Must have had Arctic cats.
Good video. Thank you!!
Good info. I am doing it right, fixing is part of the fun.
This is good stuff! Do you have any idea at roughly what speed the clutch closes on a 2022 Ranger xp 1000?
I had often wondered why people were complaining about clutch heat. I just trail ride and yard work my ATV but now I know to keep it around 30 if I hit the road.
Its a constant speed of any speed. Fast or slow. You have to make it change speed constantly to keep the belt from wearing one spot at a time.
Well i Rock crawl my Turbo S , and trail ride. And also do long dirt road trips , never had a belt issue or grooves in my clutch. matter of fact ive had it four years and just changed my first belt 🤷🏼♂️
I run a 2020 RS1.. We do all kinds of riding.. From trail, rock crawling and railbed to get between trails.. Our short days are 350km plus. I am currently sitting at 35,000km original belt and all original clutch. Now I do have a particle separator on my clutch intake and I do clean them quite often. But I do not see or feel any kind of wear in the clutch plates and or weights and rollers. It would be nothing for us to run 70 to 80km/hr for hours on end getting between trails systems. I guess I have been lucky.
You have and a RS1 is way lighter so it would go further than a heavy UTV plus exceptions to the rule do not change the rule. I see this every single day.
I worked in Polaris R/d from 2003-2013. Developed the rzr and ranger product lines. Clutch and belt temps are a major issue. We tested for thusands of miles, sometimes that clutch cooling air reaches over 300f befor the belt blows. Ive even started belt fires that required an extinguisher to put out. Cvt = cheap energy transfer with major compromises and energy loss. The fastest way to destroy a belt on a polaris is low range, WOT...temps will spike and it will launch in no time...junk!!!
Do think now in 2024 they have fixed that issue? In your opinion What is the best sxs?
IMHO Todd nails it in several comment replies, in that many of the newer SxS’s with all the bells and whistles are pushing or over 2,000 pounds dry weight, which is 3 to 4 times the weight of a typical snowmobile or ATV. Yet, these UTV’s are essentially running the same dry rubber belt CTV systems. I’m actually impressed that the CVT clutches can hold up as well as they do under these loads. Imagine taking the transmission from a Prius and running it in a RAM 3500 dually diesel - - wouldn’t last long. I just don’t see a snowmobile or single passenger ATV having the same clutch issues due to constant-speed use that a heavy UTV may exhibit.
You are right, that weight is what is killing it in this example
constant speeds in a snowmobile create the same effect, we need to vary speed to prevent flat spots and wear in the same manner, although rarer in the snowmobile world, i knew a guide who would take his personal sled to lead a trail ride group at a constant speed and had these same problems, keep the CVT shifting no matter what you're riding. we may lack the weight, but we also have more resistance.
Wish i would have saw this before buying my Kingquad 750. I intended to drive on road to hit the trails but not now.
Montana Highway legal here. Forest roads a few designated trails over here on the west side. I stay under 50 and vary between 40 and 50 on the highway. Usually no more than ten or so miles before the dirt mud and snow.
Better check it out
I had terrible luck with Polaris RZR clutches and Hunterworks helped me every time. I switched to a Yamaha Rmax all problems solved
Guess what, the RMAX will do the same thing, The track where the roller weight sits at these sustained speeds gets a divot and roller will flat spot and the secondary will wear as well. It might do better at this but not by much.
I had a Rzr 1000.
Totally road legal where I am Sold it with 5200 miles on it never replaced the clutch I was warned don’t use aftermarket belts they have a harder compound and that’s where you’ll get the grooves in your clutch.
What do you call an aftermarket belt? Who do you think makes factory belts?
I have a 1000xp and I have never grooved my clutches. But they only last me about 1200 miles before the sliding part wears out and is out of spec. I Mostly ride dunes so it's the opposite issue (constantly varying the speed) from no throttle to full throttle.
@@grantdubridge7995the bro has never removed the belt and claims his clutches aren’t grooved.
Ok snowflake
@@grantdubridge7995 I think this person means 3rd party belts, not necessarily just any aftermarket belt... But you knew that....
Yea it really hurts the clutches. We only get around 3,000 miles out of a belt. It doesnt break, but we just go ahead and swao it with new oem. The primaries are only getting around 20k-30k miles.
My poor little Viking has 9000+ miles of working and towing and as of last week my belt still looks new
@@theMacGyvercom for the love of god service the rest of the clutch if you haven't lol
Zero brand loyalty here. Currently on a yamaha, polaris or kawasaki is next.
Keep the clutches clean and serviced and they all last for 15-20k. My ranger, rzr, pioneer, and yxz all did.
@@CadeSubscriptionAccount lol its been checked, cleaned and one way changed. Thats how i know the belt still looks good. Lol
Many dealerships would say the opposite just so these folks can bring them in for a routine maintenance appointment.
I'm glad you mentioned the hondas cuz they are amazingly reliable not the fastest but also not why i bought them and plenty of power to get hurt lol
I can't decide on a Honda or a raptor 700.....
They are not reliable at all. We had transmission fail in 3 days. (From new)
@@outkast187 you obviously didn't operate it properly
Is what you say for a Duracluth as well? I just got your Duracluth for my XP1000 2016. Love your videos.
All CVT all brands on all brands of vehicles
I’ve got a 2004 Yamaha Kodiak that I just ordered a heavier set of primary weights to help with the buzzy throttle hungry nature of the 450’s I trail ride most the time, just seems like you really have to give it the beans to get the primary to shift out, I’d read online other people felt the same way as I do and throwing a set of grizzly 660 sliders in it really gets rid of the buzzy throttle hungry nature of these little machines. But I also only ride at consistent speeds for maybe a mile or two, it’s a work machine that I use to check fence and tree farms, but I’d never considered the downside of a cvt doing long periods of a constant speed.
you are bogging it with the heavy weights therefore takes more throttle
That was very informative. I never thought about it before. I have a 2023 Teryx4 S-800, What do you considered a good all around SxS
If you’re doing long distance on road or staying the same speed, a machine with a traditional transmission like ones from Yamaha and Honda will work best. A good competitor to your Kawasaki that could handle the same all around tasks would be a Honda pioneer 700.
I HAVE A 2006 GRIZZLY 660 S.E. THAT I TRAIL RIDE AND USE FOR DEER HUNTING HERE IN ALABAMA, I LIFT THE FRONT WHEELS OFF THE GROUND SOMETIMES AND RACE WITH MY FRIENDS, I STILL HAVE THE ORIGINAL O.E.M. BELT 👍
I’ve put 5000 miles on my 2020 Rzr XP-1000. It’s not unusual for it to see 150+ mile days. Just yesterday I replaced the clutch with a Giloman RX EBS clutch. The worse wear seemed to be from the square pads contacting the secondary housing. The belt faces were pristine.
get our round rollers and a worn out secondary looks new, you typically do not see the even wear on one
I bought a hunterworks primary for my 2019 Polaris general. It worked great for about 78 miles, and then a thin washer came loose where the spring is and kept it from opening up. So I bought a cheap primary and secondary for less then half the cost of the hunterworks primary. And it has lasted 206 miles so far. I had high hopes for the hunterworks primary. I didn't try to get another one warranted or ask for money back since it plainly states no warranties on web site. And I do run It wide open for 2 1/2 mile until I get to a dirt road to get to our hunting land. But we only do that once every week and a half. I'm not downing hunterworks just had higher expectations of their product after watching their videos on it. Maybe it was just bad luck.
No washer to come loose, there is a washer in all clutches that moves up and down the shaft freely but you should have read the warranty or watched our video on it. We would have helped you on it. We have not had any clutches in stock since July of last year, made a couple changes and the newest will be out very soon. Not too late to contact on it.
here is a link ruclips.net/video/S7RbKe8pdMM/видео.html
Thank you for replying and for the info. It was that washer wedging from one side or the other not allowing it slide and open back up. I will look into contacting this evening.
@@user-nx5xh4fs9p Ill need pics of that. I am aware of some known issues we replace it with, never even heard of such. Email me pics of that and the buttons in the spider too please to todd@hunterworks.com FYI, no matter what you have issues with that you bought here, you contact me direct.
So with all this being said I'm curious I cam across an article somewhere saying if your at a constant speed under 30mph it is best to stay in low gear is that true ?
My next SXS is going to be a Yamaha YXZ. Geared transmission, electronic clutch. No belts.
I have done a few 20 min 65mph runs. Mostly moving at slower speeds on the trails. I guess I should look at my clutches.
You probably ok, it is the repeated practice of this
Muchas gracias, me sirvió de mucho esta información, desgraciadamente dañe mis clutch y tuve que cambiarlos. Las razón fue exactamente lo que comenta en el video.
My mom has a 2017 can am 850 xmr and only replaced the belt one time since owning it. We also plow with it and also ride roads from time too time going 35-60 mph. It does run a bit hot though which is concerning on hot days but haven't overheated yet and its due too a programmer that was installed by previous owner.
This is really about heavy UTV's
What’s really frustrating about all this is people keep buying machines with CVT transmissions so these companies keep building them, if people would just stop buying this junk the companies would be forced to use real transmissions. Iv been riding ATVs and driving UTVs for over 20 years and nothing has held up as well as HONDA,
TORO WORKMAN,
and TORO HDX.
After blowing 3 belts which took out the whole housing 3 times at the cost of $1500 each time my shop tells me I can’t drive down the hiway at 50mph and must vary it 45-60 so it doesn’t burn up the belt. Then I learn the shop when installing an aftermarket clutch kit used the wrong springs and THAT was the real culprit. Once that got figured out I’ve had no issues and I watch the belt temp religiously. And the dealer never reimbursed me. Big name dealer in Show Low Az.
Bad clutching and blowing belts is an issue, this particular deal is just wearing them out, not blowing belts. You can take the best set up in the world and wear it out prematurely running high speed all the time.
I don’t doubt that at all, but I was running 3-4 miles down the highway and after the first blown belt I varied speed 40-55 and it still kept happening until the service manager really delved into it and told me they clutched it wrong, but the owners was not going to refund any of the $ spent. Obviously not using that shop anymore.@@Hunterworks
@@dansherwood9851 What is the vehicle?
@@Hunterworks it’s a 2016 rzr 4 900 with 28” tires and a tuner. Interestingly enough once they corrected the clutch springs if I run the same 3-4 miles varying my speed it only gets to 147 degrees vs 170+ before they corrected the setup and it could overheat in a 1/2 mile. I’ll be due for a belt soon and I’d like to get one from you. I think you and I discussed this previously when it was happening and I think you diagnosed it correctly. Thx!
@@dansherwood9851 be glad to help you again, so when you want that belt email me and if we need to talk on the phone we can
Im surprised they haven't gone to a automotive style wet cvt on some of the bigger machines. I would imagine the cost would be down compared to the DCT but more reliable since the cooling capability is so much better.
That is what the new Ranger 1500 has and I hear it is having issues.
I got 5k miles on a maverick and the clutch is just fine even with a lot of road riding. Exclusively using UTVs as road queens is what kills them.
We live in the southwest need to drive to the mountains for prospecting.
So when the conversation switches to snowmobiles, why do they operate at sustained high speeds for prolonged periods?
About time someone made a video about this. These are OFF-ROAD only machines. People just can't get that they weren't designed to go down the road at highway speeds for miles on end.
Love your channel! Only found it yesterday but I’ve been able to learn so much already. I just bought myself a new 24 can am outlander 850 and wanted to learn about the clutch as much as possible.
I find I do like to ride pretty fast but not usually faster than 50mph and I also live in an area where I can drive my atv right out of my backyard. would it be best for the clutch when traveling to vary the speed between say 30-50mph back and forth, do you think that would help it last or not really? Maybe there’s even some clutching you could suggest that would be better?
I don’t always ride that quick but have a few friends that I ride with who live about 6.5 miles away in another town so we usually ride about that far to meet up occasionally.
You won't like this answer, put it on a trailer and go over there if you make that trip enough at any speed unless you are varying speed from 20-top speed you will wear this clutch in a narrow area on the parts. Buy a honda ATV with no CVT LOL
@@Hunterworks that’s alright thanks for your input
Not a belt drive fan. On snowmobiles fine but dont like it on a quad or utv. I like my Honda DCT although they dont have at least on my quad a high speed. 50 mph is at the rev limit on mine
This is why I'll keep off roading my old Ford Ranger. Much cheaper, AC, heat, enclosed AND I can drive it anywhere I want.
agreed, 20K for a RZR....5K for a Jeep lol
Your ford ranger isn't going where I'm taking my sxs 🤣
@@WheelinWithAustin My Ranger with spool lockers, skid plates and a 12k winch does just fine for my needs. I've owned a Rhino, wasn't too impressed.
Ford ranger, LMAO. There is nothing to do with a ford ranger that is any kind fun whatsoever.
You are joshing. Watch some U-tube son, learn something. Like sitting at the bottom of the hill instead of at the top.
🤣
In MN we are allowed to ride on the road unless locally prohibited and not on Highway or Freeway. We have taken the occasional Ice Cream Run ~100 miles mostly gravel with speeds varying from 15 to 50 mph. Over 6000 miles on 2015 RZR 900s with original clutch. (I did replace the rollers in the secondary that delaminated themselves after the first two years) I am sure it has seen better days. Would a Dura-Clutch wear the same way, better or worse?
That varying is what helped you. But also you are the luckiest human alive, that model's secondary fails a lot.
Thx for sharing.
If you check your local law most states speed limit in a UTV is 35 mile per hour
I'm glad I'm not in one of those states.. it's not fun if I can't run it to break it.
NC is 2 lane 55 or under
Make sense great information
So what is considered long distance driving? I am currently at 21000 miles on my 2018 XP1000TRE. I installed a Duraclutch at 15000. Yeah, the original was getting pretty noisy, but was still functioning “fair”.
So what would " shift out" speed be on my 2022 xp pro? 40mph?
Been telling this to people for years and everyone things I’m crazy. I don’t let my offroad sxs touch the roads.
Smart man
Thanks for the vid. Appreciate ya. I drive a 2018 RZR 1000 turbo home 10 miles one way with tracks all winter. Bout November to May. I did wear a grove in my weights. It’s not “ruining” anything, its just the cost of travel. I took the weights out, buffed the grove out and all was well and fine. You can weigh each weight if you want to get nerdy, go for it. It just cost money to operate these machines, period. The tracks blow out bogey wheels, the $200 belts burn from heat, etc… but … you having fun? You getting somewhere like “home” with all your groceries and extra fuel, dog, and kids? Exactly. Use your toys, fix them, and go to work to pay for them. No whiners please. If you want to get desensitized from maintenance costs for having some fun, just buy an certified airplane and maintain that. That’ll fix ya.
We can disagree, if you smoothed the weights up, you took material off, they will not move the movable as far, IE "ruined" them. But I do agree it is the cost of doing this type. This is info for those who do not want to groove weights
Many people don’t realize the oversized tire are they run are very hard on clutches and belts
So true. My next upgrade is switching to all 9 inch wide tires.
My boss does that actually he puts ahout 6k miles on a sxs a year. He had more miles on a 7 month old ranger than he had on his 5 year old jeep
Reading all these comments makes me so glad I live in Freedomland WV!!!!
That's good information that probably isn't considered by most
Agreed, we want peoples vehicles to last and help pick the right vehicle for the job
@@Hunterworks I have a 06 Polaris sportsman 800 and I do mostly sport/trail riding o have only ripped up 1 belt because of front brakes locking up I have a Dayco in it now what belt would suit my style of riding. I don't do mudding on this quad but my friend does on a 2011 800
@@georgehuffert1800 I would use the polaris oem on that one, we do not offer a belt for it.
We got 36000 miles on a 2017 Polaris ranger 900. And our uncle has 56000 miles on his 16 900 Only replaced belts a handful of times on each
That is great however, exceptions to the rule do not change the rule. Your experience is two and ours is tens of 1000's
They rent Rzr's in Gatlinburg. They regularly get 10-15k miles on a set of stock clutches. They just had a rzr turbo that was for sale out of their fleet with 32k miles on it. They ONLY have been ridden on pavement and constant speeds from 25-45.......
They are varying speeds, you even said it 25-45. I said going miles at one single speed. Like 10 miles at 70 mph and oddly there are a lot doing this and lastly if it was not a thing I would not be making a video that sells nothing to warn you about it.
This is exactly why I bought a YXZ
I put one of your clutches on my last ranger and it dropped the revs 1500 rpm and the mpg increased greatly , unfortunately that ranger died at 12,000 miles so i just bought another 2024 ranger and thats reving high and mpg sucks . I fixing to change the new polaris clutch for the mother clutcher i have on the dead one .. many thanks great product
MC is chinese and may not fit or work, holler if you need me
@@Hunterworks. It was one of your clutches , I'm taking it off the 2022 ranger 570 full size and putting it on the 24
@@michaelwilson1920 We do not have a clutch for it, so I think you mean duraclutch and only if both are 570 will it work.
Your right it was Harvey's atv my bad , but yeah they are both 570's @@Hunterworks
This is why I sold my rzr and started a Jeep YJ build. Ill have much less money in it with much more everyday use.
These are driven by a rubber belt? When I was a kid our mini bikes had a belt.
Just burned up my clutch on teyrx from running high speed😂
well explained
This is why i own Jeep XJ's. They do everything a SxS will, has an enclosed cabin, road legal and a literal fraction of the cost
Not in my book, too high and too heavy, gets stuck easy and tear up too much trying not to get stuck. I own a jeep and it has its place for sure so it depends on what you are doing. My jeep can't do what I do with our machines at all.
Well snowmobiles can handle it. But snowmobiles operate in much colder temps and that helps the belts and clutches stay in good operation temp.
And they only weigh 600 lbs, that is the main reason
@@Hunterworks very true. Personally I think sxs should all have real transmissions but I definitely see the appeal of cvt for off-road use.
What are your thoughts on the steel belt and clutches on the Polaris 1500 X D? Thank you.
I hear they are having trouble already, tranny temps too hot, manual I hear states no towing over 8 mph and the fact that it has two wet clutch packs that engage to get you moving could be problematic for those who put big tires and get in spots the tires will not turn. Time will tell. Surely would not be buying the first year of them
Just vary your speed once in a while. This is a well known thing with snowmobiles. Also, manufacturers DO tell you what that machine is designed for and what its capabilities are. The problem is people dont do their research before buying. After the purchase, they dont read their owners manual. I've been riding roads and long distances on snowmobiles, sxs, and atvs for a long time. Never had trouble other than regular maintenance.
agreed
I know people with over 10,000 miles on Polaris generals primarily road riding with Zero issues
I know way more than you with problems hence the video that is selling nothing and giving away information .
Why don’t we hear about this a lot on snowmobiles or utility quads?
Dude Polaris uses the same type of clutches on there utvs as snowmobiles. Snowmobiles
Run high speeds all day. But clutches need rebuilt 3-5k miles.
I have a 2012 commder 800 mine has over 15000 miles on it so far and three sets of tires and oil and belts and fuel pump that's it .
That is great, the 800 class machines did better and were lighter. Once they got at high of hp as now and as heavy this started to be an issue
PSA then when buying off Marketplace and people have road legal kits on their side by sides or claimed most miles are done driving on the roads. Might be honestly worse for wear.
agreed
What would you classify a wildcat 700 as a tool for? Also any advice to keep the thing reliable?
Same as any CVT vehicle, everything but constants speed. That is a sport oriented machine so faster trail riding would be where it works best
good advice
Hmm. Iv got 4000 miles on my ranger 98 percent black top 65mph all time. Iv had no issues stock clutches stock original belt.
Hmmm, you are lucky.
Great points, hope people pay attention!
Me too, if not we will sell them a clutch!!
Honda Talon? Mine works great in the mountains
No CVT on Honda Pioneer
Yeah but then you have to drive a Honda pioneer...
Correct, you get to go internal and fix the torwue converters that fail.