Some people may be wondering why anti-depressants increase suicidal risks - so I'll try to explain. When people are depressed suicidal thoughts are fairly common. Yet, not lots of people act on the thoughts because they are tired or don't find the motivation to do so. It's common for people that are depressed to feel like that. Anti-depressants help people with depression by giving them more energy. Anti-depressants _can't_ change someone's thoughts of suicide - it's impossible to erase someone's thoughts. *Anti-depressants are the cause for many suicides.* When anti-depressants give you more energy, they motivate someone to do normal tasks. _People with depression might act on their thoughts of suicide because they have the energy to do so_ Unfortunately, many people have this thought that anti-depressants help people get rid of thoughts of suicide, but they don't. If you know someone taking anti-depressants, make sure to alert their families about this. Not many people know that anti-depressants will motivate people to commit suicide - so be alert with people that take them.
Thank you for adding this comment! I was going to add this to the video but there wasn't enough time so thank you for posting this. Anti-depressants aren't really some magic cure all to depression and they have side effects just like all prescription drugs I'm really glad you made a comment talking about this and how anti-depressants effect people with suicidal thoughts and tendencies.
Glory Hallelujah! No problem. After my close cousin was diagnosed and given prescription anti-depressants, I researched them and found out this stuff. I had to tell family members that were close to her so they kept an eye one her. I want to spread this information because lots of people don't understand how dangerous antidepressants can be. Also the video was very interesting.
Miles Williams me too, i got diagnosed after this video and it really helped me understand that some people won't believe you or something, but there are always people you can talk to and that you aren't alone.
to me it had sort of that effect? meaning it scares me to think my situation might get to that point...( I still can't listen to Waving Through A Window without almost crying...)
Thank fuck somebody mentioned BPD and depression when it came to Connor! I've heard a lot of people talk about him having bipolar disorder, but I never really got that. Manic episodes are never really mentioned, and he seems to be angry/depressed almost all of the time. Even if he had bipolar disorder that was the kind that had more depressive time than manic, we would have heard about extended periods of time in which he was manic. It's not just moment-to-moment 'mood swings' with bipolar, and people need to get that misconception out of their heads. BPD fits much better. Thank you for this!
I agree, I did tons of research on different disorders and to me it just didn't seem like Bipolar disorder fit Connor. You are on point about the whole manic episodes thing, that was never talked about in the show. He definitely seems more BPD, especially once you know the symptoms of it. Plus it's such an under-discussed disorder that is actually pretty common and relevant. Which makes the fact that Connor might have it even more impactful.
Good Doggy I didn't know what bpd was until now and I'm so glad it was mentioned cause I have the same symptoms as conner and I'm going to ask a therapist about it
Am I the only one who thinks Connor has something other than depression? This is mostly going off his scene with Evan in the library. It's a real stretch to claim that Evan wanted to hurt him by mentioning his sister in a letter he wasn't meant to see. I see him as having paranoia.
That's why I talked about BPD. Some of the symptoms of that are paranoia and random outbursts like that. I definitely think he is more than just depressed.
I may as well be forgotten in this sea of comments, but I am almost 100% positive I have Depression and Anxiety, but every time I ask my parents to see if I can get diagnosed, they dismiss it as I’m just being “shy” and it’s just a “mood”. What should I do? I keep asking and asking, but every time is always a, “You’re just shy. Stop being shy.”
(I read all my comments so there is no worry that you will be unseen) I would just keep asking your parents and trying to find support where you can. If you're parents are unsupportive than you just have to try and survive until you can get the help you need yourself. If you are really struggling there are hotlines and websites that can be useful. I tried to list a lot of them in this description. You are not alone and you will be okay someday
THANKS, A LOT, MOOOM. she has freaking anxiety running through her blood. And most of her familly, including me, has it. I was diagnosed with social anxiety and depression, and its hard. SO THANKS
I thought you were calling me mom and because I'm the mom friend in my friend group and I was getting ready to accept you into my mom friend nest. But I understand your struggle, my anxiety is also genetic.
I was diagnosed with anxiety, bipolar disorder, and a depressive disorder a few months ago. I've been up at night pacing and sobbing because I had nothing to stop the relentless thoughts. One morning I was so anxious about going to school I was sitting at the kitchen table sobbing, holding my head, repeating "I can't." I'm a bi-polar anxious teen with a depressive disorder and I don't know what to do.
I honestly believe I have social anxiety. Research has led me to realizing that I share the same symptoms as Evan Hansen, despite not knowing of him at the time. It was in my mind for ages and, the moment I saw Evan acting during the opening scene, it became so clear that my own behaviour wasn't normal. My family only believes in Depression, seeing that a cousin got diagnosed with it last month. I know they won't understand my dilemma and might just brush it off as my own shyness. What do I do?
I am not sure what to tell you except keep trying, and if they don't believe you just know that you're not alone and that you can find help after you move out. I had the same feeling when I first saw Evan and his sweaty hands monologue. It took me forever to convince my family that I needed help. But you aren't alone and even if your family doesn't believe you that doesn't mean that it's not a problem you have to deal with. Be strong, I believe in you
I have Depression and anxiety, ive known something was wrong for 3 years. Last year I told my mother I need to talk to a psychologist. My parents dont believe I have it, despite taking antidepressants and they most likely never will believe that I have it, but I'm getting professional help and thats important. Whether your family believes in it or not is their problem, if you believe you need help, go get it. Just tell your parents you need to talk to a psycologist, you dont need to tell them why. I know how hard it can be, but you can do it.
Acey Michealis just tell them that you want to get diagnosed, i did get diagnosed with social anxiety, before that people didn't believe me, but if they don't believe you, tell them that you want to get diagnosed my a medical professional and or get a psychiatrist for anxiety, it helps alot.
My parents made the same mistake for thinking my anxiety and depression was just me being shy. Try to tell them you want/need help and if they don't agree call a depression hotline.
Acey Michealis I think I have social anxiety just anxiety too you know my family doesn't take it seriously because they say I'm over dramatic which is true so they don't believe anything I say
I get evans anxiety too well, i commonly have anxiety attacks in the middle of the night or at public places and stuff like that, and when i get them i will either lose sleep or act weirdly or awkwardly, i mean, more than i already am, i get this video and i love that you would do this video, it has alot of information about these things and i now have been diagnosed with social anxiety, because of this video i thought i should go ask a medical professional about this, thank you, oh, and the drawings are really fun to look at while you speak about a more serious topic, keep it up :)
Päivi Metsi Ahh thank you so much, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I'm sorry you struggle with anxiety. I understand your struggle and I'm glad you've decided to seek help. I hope to see you on my channel some more ❤️
I'm sorry if I gave you the wrong impression but I was really just listing random personalities that came to mind? From what I know, the myers briggs personalities don't actually effect whether or not you have depression but I couldn't actually think of another visual representation for "personality" other than that.
I love this show so much because I relate with Evan so much. I have a generalized anxiety disorder and a (much milder case than evan) social anxiety disorder. I have so many ticks that he has and it's so great to have proper representation.
The representation is so great. It's actually life saving and I just think about all the people who are struggling who just needed that one person they can relate to and how important that is.
Rachel.Othon i have social alxiety and it really really sucks, i can not get any friends and that has caused me to have really bad waves of sadness sometimes, but they would usually go away with the power of internet and internet friends, internet friends are the only kinds of friends i have and at school i sat alone everywhere.
Internet friends are the best! Don't worry Päivi, things will get better. Someone will like you for you even with your social anxiety! Those sadness bands are very common for people with anxiety. I often have patches where I am unmotivated, and just sad for no reason but they always pass and they will for you too.
Rachel.Othon It’s the exact same for me. One of my first reactions to the musical was my awe at how good Ben Platt was at acting out all those emotions I’ve felt before. And when people are confused that I sometimes mess with my hands or feet when sitting I can just point them to DEH and Ben Platt’s acting.
Thank you for watching, I hope you feel less alone now, and maybe understand your mind a bit better. I find comfort in knowing how my brain works sometimes.
I didn’t self diagnose from this video, but the section on Alana actually helped me realize that I could have anxiety. So, thank you for this, it was what I needed to reach out
This is actually very important and more people need to know about this?? It's something people really don't talk about a lot, and thank you for covering it!
I have a VERY slight case of Aspergers Syndrome and I'm very high functioning however even so, I still suffer certain symptoms. Three of my major issues is self care, as well as obsessing or getting sucked in to certain topics for long periods of time and overall, my biggest one is social interaction. It's so difficult for me to understand social cues in language, even though reading body langauge is one of my biggest "obsessions". Anyways, every day is a struggle but the first time I saw DEH, the next morning, after I cried myself to sleep over how much it impacted me I realized that the message was right. None of us are alone. Sorry for rambling, I tend to do that. Thanks for making this video! I really appreciate it!
Sheridan Dwyer god,we have the same situatuion. I have a slight aspergers,I suck at social interaction,I ussually come off as weird or dumb,because I take like 2 weeks to understand simple jokes,ESPECIALLY sarcasm,I always take it seriously. Or maybe I make a joke that is too complicated that no one understands,I can get really angry really fast... Lots of stuff,but I always try too stay positive! Life is not for worrying you know? Idk I just kinda wanted to share that
That Lazy Snail Hello, you may not see this and well you explain this clearer than many doctors i suffer parly from Evans anxiety about making friends or interacing with people, so thank you
I'm glad you also saw BPD in Connor, I listened to the show shortly after watching the game theories about Until Dawn and Handsome Jack: the Hero, where they talked about BPD and Schizophrenia in their characters, so it's nice to have it reafirmed that I'm not *just* jumping to that connection because of confirmation bias. It was one of the more disturbing parts of the show to me that dispute having money and claiming to have tried to help him, Connors parents never saw him diagnosed and treated for what seem glaringly obvious conditions when you hear the symptoms. I mean really, he was on stage as himself for like, five minutes + that mention from Zoe about his behavior. The fact that the show/Evan's campaign was "no one deserves to be forgotten" and then overwrites the reality of this boy to people who had known what he was like, and inventing a whole person over his image to thousands of strangers, although perhaps an outweighed evil, was really quite horrible in context. "In context" meaning it really wouldn't suck so much if the person warping your memory wasn't preaching memoriam, the irony in the self proving untruth of the situation is, again, really quite awful. Keeping the campaign alive after learning the truth as the Murphy's do was an honourable choice, calling back to the Dark Knight Two-Face conclusion of letting actuality die to give people hope, and you could argue that inciting it as Evan did is too... practically, I suppose it is, but the ethical truth is that it's cold and in poor taste. Of course Evan is a neurotically sick child, his manipulations are again, understandable, excusable even, but not endorsable. It's also pretty terrible that his stint with Evan was one of, if not THE final trigger that brought on his suicide.... like... damn. I've yet to check the fanfiction archive, because towards the plays conclusion I lost the desire that is slowly returning, for a "good ending" rewrite, where maybe Connor just hands Evan his paper without reading it and they do maintain a sort of friendly facade etc, with realistic characterization of Connor's behaviours and illness (but ending up being fake relationship to real, duh, we all know how it goes, at least in fanfiction land, because even when we make it realistically rocky, what we desire and create is the inevitability of fake it till you make it to bring together unlikely characters, organically.)
I don't know if I would say that Evan's note was the final trigger for Connor's suicide but it was probably at least one trigger. That is one of the things I love about the show though, is that it leaves a lot of grey areas. There is no proof the Murphy's tried to help him outside of telling him not to do drugs and we don't really know that much about Connor. But it's like that by design we are supposed to be able to relate to these characters and their lives because they are fundamentally human but they lack exact specifics to allow people to connect with each situation. You are right about Evan's actions. They were not okay and even though the foundation was important the way he went about it was not appropriate. The show is supposed to be complex like that though, if you do something bad, but you help so many people in the end, how bad really was it? I love that the show creates that and it allows the audience to decide for themselves. We aren't supposed to know Connor because it's not his story, we are only supposed to know Evan's Connor because he (Evan) is the one who spawns all the change. It's sad we never get to know the real Connor, but I think it's necessary for the show.
He might? I think he definitely needs therapy to deal with his insecurity and relationships but there really isn't enough information from the show to be able to talk about a specific illness in regards to him so I didn't include him.
Hmm I can see why you'd think that, but personally I don't think so. I just believe he has trouble communicating his feelings and sharing deep connections with people, which is very common for guys his age - I wouldn't quite call it an illness, but as previously mentioned, could definitely be improved with therapy.
That Lazy Snail it's been confirmed that he hides his feelings behind jokes and is majority insecurerd. It said in the script (Jared enters with practiced swagger that only the deeply insecurerd can pull off) something like that. So we may have no idea what he really feels.
I understand a lot of what your talking about. I have ADHD, because of that I also have anxiety, I freak out over seemingly small things. It sucks. I think a big reason that I like this is because it understands what having disorders is actual like. For example, depression. My friend has bad depression and she had told me what it's like, DEH basically gets what it's like. Anxiety sucks, it's like you have this feeling that you just can't shake..... You can tell yourself that it's nothing, over, and over, and over and you still won't believe yourself. DEH also gets these things. It's an amazing musical and I highly recommend it to those who haven't seen it yet.
DEH is amazing! I totally understand the anxiety thing, it's something I struggle with too. It's so important for there to be good representation like DEH out there.
Shaebug 0711 i have social anxiety but i do also freak out over really small and unimportant things and i always have this feeling inside me and when it gets really bad sometimes i can't breathe because i overthink things and the social anxiety really sucks, i can't get friends and i am really awkward because of it and sometimes i do get waves of sadness because if those reasons.
God same bout Adhd And i seriously know i have some damn form of anxiety either from my adhd or my dad telling me to be like my brother in academic level my dad usually tries to ignore it saying im a Hypochondriac and I only have Adhd Its very annoying and pisses me off and I will be asking my doctor when I go there for a checkup and it probably will be diagnosed because of Speech class and I am horrible with talking infront of many people so yeah
Ok so I love how you mentioned the fact that connor has bpd it was so obvious in the show that it made me really mad that they dismissed it as him being a jerk
And it's silent and he's counting the change.... Honestly though, I have a panic attack if someone knocks on the door so that scene in the show was a big deal for me. Very relatable.
Overwatch_nerd _ Yeah! It’s true (I have anxiety). And what I thought of was all the (few) times I’ve gone out to eat with my family and I hate ordering so much because I have to talk to strangers, but even worse then ordering for yourself is ordering when someone else is paying because I’m extra worried about them thinking I made them pay too much for food.
I have anxiety, depression and social phobia and I think you talked about mental illness ins a very educated and well thought out way. I'm glad you made this video because it's important to show how well received any form of media that portrays these things correctly can become!
I'm glad you think I did a good job. I tried really hard to be as educated as possible (without years of medical school). I agree it is really important to talk about mental illness and the media that represents it more. We need to stop supporting unhealthy representations and start supporting accurate ones.
the whole thing about high functioning anxiety really hit me for some reason. i think that's pretty accurate to me as a person, seeing as i often hide my anxiety out of fear or being made fun of. thank you.
I believe I have high functioning anxiety I've been put on a pedestal to turn around my family's school lives and lives in general and I have the crushing fear of failure whenever I get something below a b, even though I'm not failing, I have a serious breakdown. whenever I can't do something right in sports my mind goes "you're nothing worthless can't do anything right." and I hate it it's incredibly counter-productive and achieves nothing through negative thoughts
I feel like the show points to Alana having high functioning anxiety when she sings “I’m waving through a window” in between two scenes, or not and they just needed a little more time to switch the props on stage idk lol
I think this was very educational and explanatory. You asked to say what mental disorders people watching have? Well, I know it's common, but I have ad/hd. I think you deserve more sub's, this helped me learn about the causes of many mental disorders so I can help people avoid them. Overall, this video deserves more likes and that one asshole who disliked it is probably dumb.
Dear Evan Hansen made me sob uncontrollably because of how accurate it is. Dealing with anxiety and depression (it's the lower-case type of depression) is hard and can be difficult. And Dear Evan Hansen helps me when I'm feeling down. Loved this video!
I just want to say a quick thank you for making this video, I can clearly see all the time and research you put into it. Thanks especially for discussing GAD, as I have that, I was diagnosed when I was very little and all my life I really haven't seen too many people talking about it. ❤️
I just realized I have high functioning Anxiety. At school I’m laterally obsess with my grades and I always put a lot of pressure in myself and I don’t wanna fell. See I want to become a doctor since I’m little, because a important person in my family was in hospital (she’s still there right now). My parents were not really there, but when they always said something like: 87 % at your Math exam? It’s not enough ! Where the hell you think you’re gonna go with that ?! And I just check and I have most of the signs. Édit: I chek with my doctor, and I really have it.
I'm not sure if you have read the book, but if you haven't, it may give more insight into the characters. Mostly Connor. The musical follows Evan, and so does the book, but you also get to see more of Connor in the novel.
I can't even walk outside without fearing people looking at me, I can't walk around town alone or even do things by myself without someone to help me and make me seen normal and keep me from melting down.
This is pretty much my favourite musical because I can relate to so many of the characters. One thing that really annoys me though is that I don't think you can ask people "hey, do you ever lie about absolutely fucking everything because of your anxiety?", and the lying is one of the worst parts of me I'm majorly ashamed of but I'm in too deep. Evan is one of the most relatable fictional characters of all time to me. Words fail ruins me emotionally because I can see so much of myself in Evan at that point.
That Lazy Snail well it's *definitely* easier to understand than other videos I've seen! I didn't even know borderline personality disorder was a thing!
Kinda off topic, but I got a feeling that I should maybe comment this. I feel like a lot of people misunderstand bipolar disorder, PTSD, DID, and so many more mental illnesses. I’m going to use bipolar as an example here. I personally suffer from bipolar disorder, and I feel as though people use it as a negative term or an insult. When I have mood swings, very very frequently and at the drop of a hat, I’ve been told in a snarky voice “Oh my god, stop being so bipolar,” or something along those lines. It’s not a choice. Believe me, I wish more than anything that I’d be able to stay consistent with my emotions, instead of going through them all in the span of 15 seconds(that’s an exaggeration but you get the point). For me, I have one central thought, and start developing emotions based on that thought. One emotion will surface, and I will display that emotion. Not too long after another conflicting emotion will surface as well and I’ll have an inward-turned-outward struggle with myself to see which is more relevant to the situation. On top of this, I’m a very sensitive person, and I don’t know if that’s because of the disorder or visa versa. I am on medication for depression and anxiety, and mood stabilizers that have helped so so much. I think the most common misconception about medication is that it will ‘fix’ you, but it doesn’t do that. It just aids, in most cases, in your path to recovery and content. Most(if not all, I’m not sure) mental disorders are chemical imbalances in your brain. The one on the tip of my tongue is depression specifically. I’m not a doctor and nowhere near close to a psychologist or psychiatrist, I just know what I’ve researched about my own disorders(PTSD, depression, anxiety disorder, bipolar, bulimia, etc.). I hope that reading this wasn’t too boring. Please know that you, the person reading this, are always loved and always have someone to talk to. No one deserves to be forgotten.
Now I feel weird. I always related to Connor, because I have inappropriate anger outbursts too and some people say I act paranoid. Now I feel like I might have borderline, but I dont want to talk to my family, because they never take me seriously.
Wow. First of all, this video makes sense. The disorders are explained extremely well. Second of all, when you were saying that depression could be based on personality, at first I though I saw my personality type. So I rewinded the video, and paused it at the third one. I’m an I.N.F.J, who has depression. This is really fascinating to see I could be more likely to get depression, and I have it. I’m in awe.
The MEYERS BRIGGS personality types don't really have anything to do with it, I was just looking for a way to explain it with a picture, although it would be interesting to do a study on how many introverts have anxiety/depression.
I literally didn't know high functioning anxiety was a thing. Since I was 12 I have believed I have anxiety bc of body symptoms (shaking, stomachache in social situations, headaches, physically not being able to talk at times, etc). I have been to the psychologist and the psychiatrist a couple of times but every time it's like "it's impossible that you have any kind of mental illness, you are doing too well in school"
I have GAD and social anxiety, and when reading the novel and listening to the musical.. I couldn’t help but, feel happy. I relate to Evan, like a lot, and when I was listening to him through the book and songs, I felt weird, I don’t know, how to explain it, but I just related. I love Evan and Connor, they helped me realize I’m not the only person in this word with problems, and other people are scarred. Thank you Evan Hansen and Connor Murphy
I have VERY BAD social anxiety. I made my first friend in school in 4th grade and my best friend in 5th grade. I stick with those 2 friends because every time I try to talk to someone new, I have a panic attack. I also have dermatophagia and pick at my fingertips very often whenever I’m stressed. During school I have very very bad anxiety and stress because I’m worried about grades and basic school stuff, so I’m always picking at my fingers. Once my teacher saw my fingers were bleeding so she sent me to the nurse. I’m not saying this for people to feel bad for me or anything. I’m saying this because it’s very common and it needs to be more recognized as a mental illness.
Ahhh thank you so much for watching, I'm glad you liked it. The research was actually kind of fun because I find it all very interesting and it's nice to be able to understand everything that goes on in my own, and other peoples brains.
I honestly think I might have high functioning anxiety from the way you described alana. It sounds exactly like me. I'm probably going to talk to a therapist about it. Thank you!
Why didn't you mention Jared? He had problems too. I remember in the show that in a scene during Good For You, Evan was telling Jared they had to make more emails. Jared said "You should remember who your friends are." Evan then said that he thought the only reason Jared talked to him was for car insurance. Then he went on to say "So maybe the only reason you talk to me, Jared, is because you don't have any other friends." Jared's reaction was threatening to tell everyone about the lies. He reacted in anger, and switched the topic from having/not having friends, back to the fake emails. After Evan said "Go ahead, do that. Tell everyone that you helped write emails from that need to be from a kid who killed himself." And then, the ever so popular "Fuck you, Evan!! Asshole!" In the script, it said Jared said this like helpless, heartbroken little kid. It was obvious that the fact Evan mentioned Jared having no other friends hurt Jared enough, and the possible reason he changed the subject was so he could find another reason to get mad at Evan. I mean think about it, if Jared has no other friends, he could be having problems of his own, BUT he is hiding it all with a mask. He's pretending like he doesn't care, he possibly pushes people away even. He suffers from mental illness as well, and while I really enjoyed the points you've made in this video, I think you could've mentioned Jared too.
I think Jared is a wonderful character I just couldn't find any specific /illnesses/ associated with his character. Alana was already kind of a stretch and I don't personally feel like autism or being on the spectrum is an illness. I don't think those people need to/want to be cured, or in all honesty that there is anything wrong with them in the firs place. I think Jared has issues, just none that are specific enough to be classified by an amateur like me.
*shudders at the mention of borderline personality disorder cause has most symptoms but talked to mother about it once and mother said she was just trying to get attention*
Around 2 years ago almost three now I had just recently moved to a new state and school. Basically ever since I can remember I've had problems with anxiety because of some of the things that happened during my early childhood but this was the worst it had ever been. I could sort of speak to people but not without shaking and feeling like I was going to vomit all over the person. That year was a very lonely period and I didn't even understand that I even had anxiety until I first heard of this musical. This musical and evan made me realize that I wasn't alone in these sinking, downward spiral thoughts, that they had a name and we're treatable. Every day after school I would listen to the soundtrack and just ball my eyes out, feeling too scared to reach out for help and if I was even worth helping. Then I met my bestfriend who helped me grow as a person more then anyone ever has before and made me love myself for all of me and not just the "non anxious and awkward" parts. In the summer though we grew distant because now I started to feel anxiety over him and just talking to him. I felt shaky and so strange when I would talk to my one and only bestfriend and I didn't know why. But they still tried to communicate with me and we're incredibly understanding and loving. But I just couldn't handle maintaining this realatinship I had once loved or any relationship. This mindset and the overwhelming feelings continued for another year and a half (with depression coming into the mix too). Just recently did I finally have the courage to ask for help. It took me so damn long and I wish I would have done it sooner because I feel better then I have since I was like a young child. Of course I still have anxiety and issues with my mental health but I feel more content with myself and the world around me and I wish I didn't wait because it heavily affected my friendships and relationships with family. What I'm trying to say is that if you're starting to feel like how I started to feel 2 years ago and just brush it off as puberty or "just a phase" please don't. Don't wait for it to get worse so you can "have a reason" to seek help. Trust me if you seek help earlier on, you will have less likely of a chance to fall down the rabbithole that me and so many others before me did. I am very grateful for this musical and I'm so glad i was able to find a voice of reason in all of the noise in my head, I hope if anyone s reading this, they can find that voice too. (Sorry I went on a bit of a rant in a RUclips comment section, this musical just makes me really emotional lol)
I am self diagnosed with High functioning anxiety disorder. Since im so young my mom usually undermines what I have to say. I try to tell her “I dont feel ok” or “Im really anxious” or my heart will beat five times faster than usual (even though I have a usually very rapid heart beat) and my thoughts ar just floating everywhere like “Im not okay” “am I going to be ok?” “What is this feeling “I’ve felt this before and “what do I tell my mom”. It started when I was in first grade, It started out as a small case of social anxiety. Then in fourth grade I had two panic attacks in the duration of 6 hours. I had a safe word that would let my teachers know thta I needed to leave the room. But when Im at home I have no one to talk to and this year the year before sixth grade I feel like I have no ine to talk to. At almost the safe time everyday around recess, near 11:15 or 11:25 I feel uneasy. I cant get around and I feel like I need to escape. The words cant get out because nobody has the key, no one asks if im okay or is like “hey howre you doing” even if they do all I can get out is “i-im (not) fine”. I cant get over it. My mom was like the last time I talk to her she said “What do you want drugs? You know since I was an addict you could get addicted too” and she sounded so angry and all I could say was “anything to make me feel ok”. Its one big hastle, because part of it was because when I was 2 up until I was 9 my mother was domestically abused by my dad. All I could do was sit and watch when it got bad and that triggered some of it as I got a little older. It happened in kindergarten too I just broke down in the middle of class so they sent me to a counsler and sent CPS to my house the next day when I mentioned a big fight they had a week prior. Im only 11 and Im carrying so much luggage with me that wont fit on the plane. Its so much and I cant get help.
I'm so sorry, there is evidence that life gets better though and you won't always be where you are. Middle school is the hardest, because your body is just trying to mess with you. High school will always be better and you are strong. You've made it this far already, you are stronger than you think.
I like how you described how mental illnesses are linked. I understand that because my eating disorder and 1 of my anxiety disorders are linked to my phobia. And sometimes it’s hard to explain to other people
During a day I can go from being super happy and excited about life to contemplating death the next. My friends describe me as confusing cause I can go from being really happy to really sad. Also, I am scared when I am happy. I just think that the happiness wont last because something bad *will* happen. It's like I'm in purgatory. I self-harm about every 5 days. Often I just dont have the energy to. I am afraid to get into relationships because I am worried that I'll leave them suddenly from suicide and they'll be in pain.
Very good video! I personally have high-functioning autism, and for the most part it doesn’t affect my life, but I do strongly relate to Evan in many ways because of it. Personally, I see Evan as also having autism, evidenced by his awkwardness with people, his love for trees (excessive interest in something is often a symptom of autism- for me it comes out as fangirling, and for some people with autism I know it’s dogs, or robots, or something. For Evan, it’s trees.) And the sentiments expressed in Waving through a Window are common amongst higher-functioning individuals with autism, who can see they’re different from others, want to establish relationships with others but don’t know how. Once on a bad day, I spent a long time (don’t remember how long) rocking and quietly singing Waving to myself because it perfectly expressed how I felt.
THANKYOU! every time I have suggested mlthat maybe Connor has BPD to any other fans they either don't know or just dismiss it and see him as just depressed. I'm glad I'm not the only person thinking this.
I just want to thank you for this video. As a person with social anxiety I'm often kind of misunderstood by my family because for them I'm just "shy" or "antisocial". But with that video you just show to people that we are not shy people or antisocial, and that it's possible for someone to not be okay. To struggle with something that other people don't even acknowledge the existence. Thank you for showing to people who don't have these illnesses that we are existing, and thank you for showing us, people who suffers, that we are not alone. You just made my evening. Thank you again. (And sorry for my bad english btw ..)
It means so much to me that this video had an impact on you. You are not alone and there are tons of people out there who understand these issues. We just have to keep proving to the ignorants that we are here and our illnesses are valid and a /real/ problem. Anxiety, particularly social anxiety is so glossed over because people can be considered "shy". We just have to keep raising awareness and being proactive. Your English is great by the way.
Thank you for mentioning BPD, I suffer with BPD and Depression but depression is very common and I expected that, I didn't expect BPD to be talked about because it isnt really well known at all. So thank you
My parents and my best friends parents don't believe in mental illnesses, but both of us are sure something is wrong with us. There is no doubt in my head that my best friend has extreme social anxiety; we usually only contact each other by text and she can not talk to strangers whatsoever. I believe I may have some sort of depression and high functioning anxiety. Of course, I may be wrong, but neither of us can go and ask our parents to take us to get diagnosed. We've agreed that once on of our dumbasses learns to drive we will take ourselves to find out.
Thank you for this. I started going to therapy for a few months now and this are only getting worse and worse. I suffer from anxiety (there are still trying to narrow it down, I'm going to a psychiatrist in a month) and some form of depression and a mood disorder. This just made me learn more about my future and what's ahead.
I’m not using this video as any way of self diagnosis but I do believe that out of all these illnesses the one that I might have is high functioning anxiety. I’ve met 2 people in my life with social anxiety. My friend who I’ll call Britney and another girl who all call Peggy. So Britney has quite minor social anxiety she just has trouble making friends and has very bad stage fright but she was diagnosed by a doctor for having it. Peggy’s is Very serve she breaks down in crowds hides in the corner for most of class. I don’t know if Peggy has been diagnosed but from what I know about social anxiety she shows almost all the symptoms very clearly.
I think that part of it is our society and middle/high school are just miserable times of life regardless of if you're mentally ill or not, but it does get better, and if it doesn't, seek help, because it can get better.
Thank you for the warning in the beginning even though I have been diagnosed with ADHD/ADD and anxiety at cincinnati children's hospital and have been taking medication, it's still good that the viewers are aware that you are not a doctor! (Hopefully they already knew that) I'm also very glad you made this video in general. It tought me more about myself and the musical. It kinda made me feel the tiniest bit less anxious. Thank you!
Yeah, I notice that people really like to self diagnose and it's very concerning. I really just intended for the video to be informative not used as a means for diagnosis. Cause I haven't even taken a class on psychology so I'm by no means an expert. I am so happy you liked the video though
As someone who has been diagnosed with GAD since the age of 18 this was really beautifully put and I can confirm the part of "people are aware that something irrational is going on in the brain" + that there can be signs of other mental health situations as well. DEH is one of my fave musicals since it was created and having a video like this really gives good insight on mental health matters. I will link this video on my website so more people can take note of it.
Wait...anxiety can often trigger depression??? Well, I'm screwed! I have anxiety, (um...I think? I dunno it's not that strong, i...guess? You know what, that's something for another day. Er...night.) and my mom has a bit of depression, and I've heard teens sometimes get depressive stages, so yup! Nother thing to prepare for! First the seasonal depression that may or may not come round in November, and now depression in high school! ...yay...better say good bye to my future grades...
Depression and anxiety affect everyone different there is no guarantee that because you have anxiety you will be depressed and teens get depressive episodes because rising hormones create intense mood swings. Your hormones while they can effect your mental state do not necessarily create or give you depression. Try not to think so negatively, your mind is very powerful and the more positive you are the more positive things will be
This is a great video. I'm very happy about how you can easily recognize the disorders and touch upon them very well and sensitively. It was also extremely thoughtful of you to add all of those hotlines in the description.
I haven't even seen DEH yet...just heard the soundtrack (hoping to see it next year when it comes near where I live!) but...the soundtrack alone has had me broken into tears many times because of just...how much I relate to Evan. Like...I have a hard time explaining my feelings and how my mind workds and why I struggle so much to improve myself and where I am in life and just...a lot of the lyrics to the songs in DEH just...ring so true to me. Especially Waving Through a Window, and Good For You. (GFY mostly if you imagine it from the perspective that the others arent actually say that...this is just Evan's mind imagining they are being this harsh after his mistakes...that this is how fast others' opinion of you spirals and how even your smallest mistake can be this world ending horrible screw up). I really can't wait to see the actual play...the soundtrack alone has made me love it. I...find it kinda funny that I discovered it through Sincerely me and...thought it would be a comedy because of such. but...I'm kinda glad it wasnt...something like this really needs to exist in the world..whoever wrote this either has dealt with these issues themselves, or has done their research DAMN well because again, even without seeing the play...I can easily put myself in Evan's shoes.
yes im so glad you explored connor's BPD. as a person with BPD its so clear to me that he had this disorder. sadly a lot of people say its bipolar. thank you for this video you did so well
Thank you, you really explained all of these illnesses well and I could feel more of a connection with the characters!!! This video is really important to me because of how honest it is.
Hey! This is amazing. I just wanted to mention, Jared probably also has quite a lot of problems! He’s not there just for comic relief. In “good for you” Will Roland really portrayed how Jared was really feeling during the fight with Evan. The reason he is such an asshole is because he’s insecure, and afraid to show his feelings in the slightest which leads to him acting rude. Also, his camp friends probably don’t exist. Which is very sad.
I had depression.... I only told one of my not online friends about it and she ignored it even though I was cutting (I'm a wuss though so it wasn't cuts that left scars and most of the time the cuts didn't even bleed) after that I just ended up not getting out of bed and most days I wouldn't go to school, in second year of high school I went to school for only a few weeks if you put the days together.... After like a week or two, I got bored of cutting and most of my time was spent on Instagram, chatting with a really good friend of mine, he knew about my depression but didn't bring it up in conversations unless needed, I also drew a lot (mainly sonic oc's) and roleplayed with my main oc, Swiftney, I also watched Aphmau a lot and listened to sad songs, I also read fanfics too and I would usually read them on deviant art but I eventually ran out of tmnt x reader fanfics and I went to google instead and I found wattpad where I was shy at first but I soon warmed up to the app and I have made some amazing friends on there. During what I like to call "the great depression", shortly after I found comfort in fanfics, my mum got more aggressive with me and I stopped talking with her and stopped as much physical contact with as possible, whilst this was happening I became suicidal and I even googled painless ways to kill myself cause I have a fear of pain. I read more and more fan fiction and spent less and less time with my friends and family, I also started eating more and because I wasn't exercising, I started gaining belly fat and I grew uncomfortable in my own body. Shortly after I created a wattpad account, I found out that I was part of lgbtq+. I thought that I was bisexual and I honestly started feeling better about myself, but then I thought I was genderfluid and I convinced my mum into getting me a binder.... I finally felt right about myself. Then I started questioning my sexuality again and found out I am Pansexual but wasn't completely convinced until I met V. Shortly after meeting V, I started questioning my gender and I have recently came to the conclusion that I am Non-Binary. Sometime last summer (the school year before was 2nd year and I am currently in 3rd year) I started feeling less depressed and even started getting out of bed more often. I am much much better now and its all thanks to wattpad and finding myself.... This much longer than my normal rants, sorry.... While I'm at it I'll just say, I've had ocd since primary school and the "Kyla touch" was invented and I have slight social anxiety
I've mentioned to my parents multiple times that I think I have anxiety (social and high functioning) and depression but they don't believe me so I can't get diagnosed. What's funny is my dad has social anxiety and my mom has PTSD so IDK why they think it's so impossible for my claim to be true.
hi! I really liked this video and thought it was very well done! I am a psych major and am studying mental illness and I thought this was very informative, but I did want to add something. (Note I want to add this for the sake of education and adding to the convo, not to be like rude or anything) I thought it was very intuitive that you picked up on BPD with Connor but technically, since his character is a minor, he cannot be officially diagnosed with BPD, or any personality disorder for that matter. The reasons being (and this is kinda hard to explain lol) is that for any personality disorder, to be diagnosed you have to be experiencing symptoms for a long period of time, and they have to be constant throughout different environments and since typically for the first 18 years of life (birth-college) you're in the same environment (same hometown and class, maybe moved, living with the same family) you can't be diagnosed. Usually those diagnoses will come after 18 years of age, but you could always be given something like "BPD-like symptoms", to key in that you would need help with these issues. Just a rule of thumb I learned that I thought was interesting. :) great video!
Ah thank you! That's really interesting I didn't know that (I wish I had known it so I could have put it in the video), but it makes a lot of sense that you would do that. It seems like it would be hard to diagnose teenagers in general and then personality disorders are all about a part of the brain that isn't finished developing until later in life anyways, so it really doesn't make sense to diagnose them when their brain isn't fully there yet. (I didn't think you were being rude at all. These are the kind of comments that give me life, thank you.)
aw no problem! That's another good point about brain development you brought up, and it's definitely true as well. It is harder to diagnose teenagers and children in general, but with other illnesses like anxiety and depression, it is a bit easier to diagnose than personality disorder, and I think you did a really good job with this video! :)
Okay so I'm not gonna lie I started crying like within the first 2 minutes so I didn't finish the video but idc because I literally discovered this show (really only like 2 songs) yesterday and I already love it and soon I'm gonna sit down and just listen to the whole soundtrack and cry and then look up tickets to see if it's still running on broadway.
It is definitely still running, but the tickets (even by broadway standards) are really expensive. I mean they aren't the price of Hamilton tickets, but most of them have been scalped now and really aren't cheap. I do recommend listening to the whole soundtrack though because it is beautiful and you will cry and love it.
That Lazy Snail Yea after I commented I checked. Went to a couple of sites, saw nothing below $200. Honestly I don't care. I'm only 18 but I'll save the money. I really wanna see this.
When I first told my mom I thought I had anxiety I pronounced the word wrong because I’d literally never said the words “I think I have anxiety” out loud before, even to myself (I was too afraid to) and I started freaking out in my head because I’d said it wrong and she just looked at me and said, “I understand.” Please, if you think you have a mental illness, talk to someone! Even if your family doesn’t understand, SOMEONE WILL. Just know that everything CAN be okay. Just talk to someone you know you can trust, and if you don’t think you can trust anyone you know, talk to someone over the internet or the phone that you are sure would be able to help you in some way. The wonderful thing about Dear Evan Hansen is that I not only found Evan the character I most relate to out of pretty much any character I know, but there’s also such a large fan base that can understand how you feel. Thank you so much for making this video and for everyone else for commenting. I’m sorry if I rambled too much or posted too many replies and comments…
As someone who is suffering with GAD, I can tell you that you are pretty accurate. GAD is horrible and many tell me that I "just want attention" from people. Thank you for making this video. You gave people some information about mental illness and also let people reach out for help. Keep up the good work.
I swear you are one of my new favorite people. The way you explained everything was perfect, and you did research on it for a RUclips video you didn't have to make! Thank you so much for this amazing video, and I hope you have an amazing day.
small thing, but thank you for talking about ect in a reasonable way. I know three close family members who've had it done and they all say it really helped when other treatments didn't, but media always portrays it in such fear mongering and inaccurate ways (looking @ you next to normal) that everyone seems to think it's some kinda outdated torture akin to lobotomy
I can't really say much about this video, because I've never been good with words, but thank you. You did your research, and seem to really care. Thank.
This is why DEH is my favorite musical. I know it class I'll barely move or if we're taking a test I'll wait an unholy amount of time for someone else to get up and turn in their tests. And even when I'm the last person, I'll get so worried that I'm taking up everyone's time and stopping them from moving on in the class. I hardly talk to people and over think all of my actions to keep the friends I have even thought I know that I shouldn't worry because they're my friends, but I still worry
Why has this video been more help actually finding whats going on inside my head. A few weeks ago I just thought I had social anxiety and paranoia but now I think I have actually figured myself out somehow
I have been diagnosed with anxiety and depression. I've had it all long as I can remember but it only started getting noticed about 6 years ago when I moved to a new state I was about 11. It wasn't the best situation for them to finally notice.I had started getting bullied at my new school ,then they would say that I threaten them or making me late or not show up to a class at all by locking me in the bathroom or in the janitor's closet. I stopped going to school I would wait for my mom to leave the house them go back in for the day.I had lost count of how many time I had thought of running away or of suicide. The school finally call my mom after a week of me not coming. I remember her coming home and being so angry. I locked my self in a closet in our apartment. The best day she drove me to school and a teacher was to say with me the whole time so I couldn't leave.My mom decided to take to a therapist after my first attempt in the school bathroom. But its been awhile I made friends ,I'm an actor at my school ,I'm an active member with my high school and I'm going to be graduating next. This sounds like a really random story but this is the story I tell my people at pride ,Anti- bullying club ,group therapy that I help,at my old middle school .I tell it to help anyone who might be going threw something similar that things can get better.But it you want to get better it starts with you.Go to someone for help, reach out .I love dear evan Hanson because it says that exact same thing. its okay if you feel like this just know youre not alone and you doing have to suffer in silence like Connor is this show did. "All feelings are valid" it you are feeling this way let yourself get help.
This is a very inspirational story. There aren't words for all the feelings I felt while reading this comment. But I am so proud of you and inspired by you.
I cut once in my life it was after my brother whom I went to for guidance he taunted me he is 22 and he lives with his mother and has no job yet he expects my respect because he "passed childhood" he moved out with a ridiculous dream and came crawling back to us because it was "too hard". Less on that I cut because of him I instantly regretted it why should he have so much control on the emotions I feel and what I do to myself so for the past year I have tried to just stop thinking and talking to and about him he is an asshat with no future unless he gets his game up I keep our sentenced brief and I have no intention of ever seeing him again after I move out.
It's hard not to let the people you live with influence your life and your emotions. I completely understand that and don't beat yourself up over it. It's good that you know that how he makes you feel is unhealthy and bad and you're taking the correct actions to get out of that toxic environment.
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Some people may be wondering why anti-depressants increase suicidal risks - so I'll try to explain.
When people are depressed suicidal thoughts are fairly common. Yet, not lots of people act on the thoughts because they are tired or don't find the motivation to do so. It's common for people that are depressed to feel like that.
Anti-depressants help people with depression by giving them more energy.
Anti-depressants _can't_ change someone's thoughts of suicide - it's impossible to erase someone's thoughts.
*Anti-depressants are the cause for many suicides.*
When anti-depressants give you more energy, they motivate someone to do normal tasks.
_People with depression might act on their thoughts of suicide because they have the energy to do so_
Unfortunately, many people have this thought that anti-depressants help people get rid of thoughts of suicide, but they don't.
If you know someone taking anti-depressants, make sure to alert their families about this. Not many people know that anti-depressants will motivate people to commit suicide - so be alert with people that take them.
Thank you for adding this comment! I was going to add this to the video but there wasn't enough time so thank you for posting this. Anti-depressants aren't really some magic cure all to depression and they have side effects just like all prescription drugs I'm really glad you made a comment talking about this and how anti-depressants effect people with suicidal thoughts and tendencies.
Glory Hallelujah! No problem. After my close cousin was diagnosed and given prescription anti-depressants, I researched them and found out this stuff. I had to tell family members that were close to her so they kept an eye one her.
I want to spread this information because lots of people don't understand how dangerous antidepressants can be.
Also the video was very interesting.
Thank you! I'm glad you're spreading the word. More people need to talk about it.
rintea; holy shit I thought this was common sense 😂
rintea; w
As someone with Social Anxiety Disorder listening to Dear Evan Hansen I finally saw myself and that I wasn't alone.
Miles Williams me too, i got diagnosed after this video and it really helped me understand that some people won't believe you or something, but there are always people you can talk to and that you aren't alone.
Miles Williams I'm glad you feel like you've been found. You aren’t alone ❤️❤️❤️
I listen to Dear Evan Hansen and I have a social anxiety disorder
SAD
to me it had sort of that effect? meaning it scares me to think my situation might get to that point...( I still can't listen to Waving Through A Window without almost crying...)
Thank fuck somebody mentioned BPD and depression when it came to Connor! I've heard a lot of people talk about him having bipolar disorder, but I never really got that. Manic episodes are never really mentioned, and he seems to be angry/depressed almost all of the time. Even if he had bipolar disorder that was the kind that had more depressive time than manic, we would have heard about extended periods of time in which he was manic. It's not just moment-to-moment 'mood swings' with bipolar, and people need to get that misconception out of their heads. BPD fits much better. Thank you for this!
I agree, I did tons of research on different disorders and to me it just didn't seem like Bipolar disorder fit Connor. You are on point about the whole manic episodes thing, that was never talked about in the show. He definitely seems more BPD, especially once you know the symptoms of it. Plus it's such an under-discussed disorder that is actually pretty common and relevant. Which makes the fact that Connor might have it even more impactful.
Good Doggy I didn't know what bpd was until now and I'm so glad it was mentioned cause I have the same symptoms as conner and I'm going to ask a therapist about it
Yay she's left handed! Another one for the lefty crew!
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That Lazy Snail yes we will!!
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Judging by all the sketching you did in this, if you are a snail you are not a lazy one.
Bob Last Name gotta love editing, making me look far more productive than I am. Thank you though 😊
Am I the only one who thinks Connor has something other than depression? This is mostly going off his scene with Evan in the library. It's a real stretch to claim that Evan wanted to hurt him by mentioning his sister in a letter he wasn't meant to see. I see him as having paranoia.
That's why I talked about BPD. Some of the symptoms of that are paranoia and random outbursts like that. I definitely think he is more than just depressed.
I would say borderline Personality Disorder
That’s what I was thinking-
That is why the video mentioned BPD. Or he could have bipolar disorder.
In the book he said that the things he did like pushing Evan in the beginning it was just compulsive and he didn’t think about what he did.
I may as well be forgotten in this sea of comments, but I am almost 100% positive I have Depression and Anxiety, but every time I ask my parents to see if I can get diagnosed, they dismiss it as I’m just being “shy” and it’s just a “mood”. What should I do? I keep asking and asking, but every time is always a, “You’re just shy. Stop being shy.”
(I read all my comments so there is no worry that you will be unseen) I would just keep asking your parents and trying to find support where you can. If you're parents are unsupportive than you just have to try and survive until you can get the help you need yourself. If you are really struggling there are hotlines and websites that can be useful. I tried to list a lot of them in this description. You are not alone and you will be okay someday
THANKS, A LOT, MOOOM.
she has freaking anxiety running through her blood. And most of her familly, including me, has it. I was diagnosed with social anxiety and depression, and its hard.
SO THANKS
I thought you were calling me mom and because I'm the mom friend in my friend group and I was getting ready to accept you into my mom friend nest. But I understand your struggle, my anxiety is also genetic.
literally SAME!!
I was diagnosed with anxiety, bipolar disorder, and a depressive disorder a few months ago. I've been up at night pacing and sobbing because I had nothing to stop the relentless thoughts. One morning I was so anxious about going to school I was sitting at the kitchen table sobbing, holding my head, repeating "I can't." I'm a bi-polar anxious teen with a depressive disorder and I don't know what to do.
I honestly believe I have social anxiety. Research has led me to realizing that I share the same symptoms as Evan Hansen, despite not knowing of him at the time. It was in my mind for ages and, the moment I saw Evan acting during the opening scene, it became so clear that my own behaviour wasn't normal. My family only believes in Depression, seeing that a cousin got diagnosed with it last month. I know they won't understand my dilemma and might just brush it off as my own shyness. What do I do?
I am not sure what to tell you except keep trying, and if they don't believe you just know that you're not alone and that you can find help after you move out. I had the same feeling when I first saw Evan and his sweaty hands monologue. It took me forever to convince my family that I needed help. But you aren't alone and even if your family doesn't believe you that doesn't mean that it's not a problem you have to deal with. Be strong, I believe in you
I have Depression and anxiety, ive known something was wrong for 3 years. Last year I told my mother I need to talk to a psychologist. My parents dont believe I have it, despite taking antidepressants and they most likely never will believe that I have it, but I'm getting professional help and thats important. Whether your family believes in it or not is their problem, if you believe you need help, go get it. Just tell your parents you need to talk to a psycologist, you dont need to tell them why. I know how hard it can be, but you can do it.
Acey Michealis just tell them that you want to get diagnosed, i did get diagnosed with social anxiety, before that people didn't believe me, but if they don't believe you, tell them that you want to get diagnosed my a medical professional and or get a psychiatrist for anxiety, it helps alot.
My parents made the same mistake for thinking my anxiety and depression was just me being shy. Try to tell them you want/need help and if they don't agree call a depression hotline.
Acey Michealis I think I have social anxiety just anxiety too you know my family doesn't take it seriously because they say I'm over dramatic which is true so they don't believe anything I say
I get evans anxiety too well, i commonly have anxiety attacks in the middle of the night or at public places and stuff like that, and when i get them i will either lose sleep or act weirdly or awkwardly, i mean, more than i already am, i get this video and i love that you would do this video, it has alot of information about these things and i now have been diagnosed with social anxiety, because of this video i thought i should go ask a medical professional about this, thank you, oh, and the drawings are really fun to look at while you speak about a more serious topic, keep it up :)
Päivi Metsi Ahh thank you so much, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I'm sorry you struggle with anxiety. I understand your struggle and I'm glad you've decided to seek help. I hope to see you on my channel some more ❤️
*when your personality is first on the "more commonly seen to have depression" list*
Me: HOW TF DID YOU KNOW
I'm sorry if I gave you the wrong impression but I was really just listing random personalities that came to mind? From what I know, the myers briggs personalities don't actually effect whether or not you have depression but I couldn't actually think of another visual representation for "personality" other than that.
That Lazy Snail
Oh, it's completely fine, it just seemed funny to me, cause yeah
Izzy Jurgens this was me.
Thank you for the way you talked about these. You talked about them really well.
Ahh thank you for watching the video. I'm glad you liked it
tag yourself i'm the amygdala bc i'm problematic
Nah, you're not problematic
Ramazing Rachel Lmao
Me
same
We can’t both be the Amygdala...
I love this show so much because I relate with Evan so much. I have a generalized anxiety disorder and a (much milder case than evan) social anxiety disorder. I have so many ticks that he has and it's so great to have proper representation.
The representation is so great. It's actually life saving and I just think about all the people who are struggling who just needed that one person they can relate to and how important that is.
That Lazy Snail it really is. I still can't make it through You Will Be Found without crying
Rachel.Othon i have social alxiety and it really really sucks, i can not get any friends and that has caused me to have really bad waves of sadness sometimes, but they would usually go away with the power of internet and internet friends, internet friends are the only kinds of friends i have and at school i sat alone everywhere.
Internet friends are the best! Don't worry Päivi, things will get better. Someone will like you for you even with your social anxiety! Those sadness bands are very common for people with anxiety. I often have patches where I am unmotivated, and just sad for no reason but they always pass and they will for you too.
Rachel.Othon It’s the exact same for me. One of my first reactions to the musical was my awe at how good Ben Platt was at acting out all those emotions I’ve felt before. And when people are confused that I sometimes mess with my hands or feet when sitting I can just point them to DEH and Ben Platt’s acting.
I have severe anxiety. Looking at this made me feel a lot better. Thank you for this video
Thank you for watching, I hope you feel less alone now, and maybe understand your mind a bit better. I find comfort in knowing how my brain works sometimes.
*When you sound more professional than a professional*
You just defined my actual life
HA HA, that's basically my life tbh. I'm a freshman in college and literally everyone who doesn't know me thinks I am a junior.
I didn’t self diagnose from this video, but the section on Alana actually helped me realize that I could have anxiety. So, thank you for this, it was what I needed to reach out
This is actually very important and more people need to know about this?? It's something people really don't talk about a lot, and thank you for covering it!
Ah thank you for watching. You are right though, we need to talk about it more so there is less of a stigma surrounding mental illness.
I have a VERY slight case of Aspergers Syndrome and I'm very high functioning however even so, I still suffer certain symptoms. Three of my major issues is self care, as well as obsessing or getting sucked in to certain topics for long periods of time and overall, my biggest one is social interaction. It's so difficult for me to understand social cues in language, even though reading body langauge is one of my biggest "obsessions". Anyways, every day is a struggle but the first time I saw DEH, the next morning, after I cried myself to sleep over how much it impacted me I realized that the message was right. None of us are alone. Sorry for rambling, I tend to do that. Thanks for making this video! I really appreciate it!
I am glad that you found the show and thank for watching and enjoying my video. I'm so glad it meant something to you ❤️❤️❤️
Sheridan Dwyer god,we have the same situatuion. I have a slight aspergers,I suck at social interaction,I ussually come off as weird or dumb,because I take like 2 weeks to understand simple jokes,ESPECIALLY sarcasm,I always take it seriously. Or maybe I make a joke that is too complicated that no one understands,I can get really angry really fast...
Lots of stuff,but I always try too stay positive! Life is not for worrying you know? Idk I just kinda wanted to share that
I'm the same ❤
I'm the exact same way! *you are not alone starts playing in the background*
That Lazy Snail Hello, you may not see this and well you explain this clearer than many doctors i suffer parly from Evans anxiety about making friends or interacing with people, so thank you
I'm glad you also saw BPD in Connor, I listened to the show shortly after watching the game theories about Until Dawn and Handsome Jack: the Hero, where they talked about BPD and Schizophrenia in their characters, so it's nice to have it reafirmed that I'm not *just* jumping to that connection because of confirmation bias. It was one of the more disturbing parts of the show to me that dispute having money and claiming to have tried to help him, Connors parents never saw him diagnosed and treated for what seem glaringly obvious conditions when you hear the symptoms. I mean really, he was on stage as himself for like, five minutes + that mention from Zoe about his behavior. The fact that the show/Evan's campaign was "no one deserves to be forgotten" and then overwrites the reality of this boy to people who had known what he was like, and inventing a whole person over his image to thousands of strangers, although perhaps an outweighed evil, was really quite horrible in context. "In context" meaning it really wouldn't suck so much if the person warping your memory wasn't preaching memoriam, the irony in the self proving untruth of the situation is, again, really quite awful. Keeping the campaign alive after learning the truth as the Murphy's do was an honourable choice, calling back to the Dark Knight Two-Face conclusion of letting actuality die to give people hope, and you could argue that inciting it as Evan did is too... practically, I suppose it is, but the ethical truth is that it's cold and in poor taste. Of course Evan is a neurotically sick child, his manipulations are again, understandable, excusable even, but not endorsable.
It's also pretty terrible that his stint with Evan was one of, if not THE final trigger that brought on his suicide.... like... damn.
I've yet to check the fanfiction archive, because towards the plays conclusion I lost the desire that is slowly returning, for a "good ending" rewrite, where maybe Connor just hands Evan his paper without reading it and they do maintain a sort of friendly facade etc, with realistic characterization of Connor's behaviours and illness (but ending up being fake relationship to real, duh, we all know how it goes, at least in fanfiction land, because even when we make it realistically rocky, what we desire and create is the inevitability of fake it till you make it to bring together unlikely characters, organically.)
I don't know if I would say that Evan's note was the final trigger for Connor's suicide but it was probably at least one trigger. That is one of the things I love about the show though, is that it leaves a lot of grey areas. There is no proof the Murphy's tried to help him outside of telling him not to do drugs and we don't really know that much about Connor. But it's like that by design we are supposed to be able to relate to these characters and their lives because they are fundamentally human but they lack exact specifics to allow people to connect with each situation. You are right about Evan's actions. They were not okay and even though the foundation was important the way he went about it was not appropriate. The show is supposed to be complex like that though, if you do something bad, but you help so many people in the end, how bad really was it? I love that the show creates that and it allows the audience to decide for themselves. We aren't supposed to know Connor because it's not his story, we are only supposed to know Evan's Connor because he (Evan) is the one who spawns all the change. It's sad we never get to know the real Connor, but I think it's necessary for the show.
I feel like Jared has a mental illness or disorder.
He might? I think he definitely needs therapy to deal with his insecurity and relationships but there really isn't enough information from the show to be able to talk about a specific illness in regards to him so I didn't include him.
Hmm I can see why you'd think that, but personally I don't think so. I just believe he has trouble communicating his feelings and sharing deep connections with people, which is very common for guys his age - I wouldn't quite call it an illness, but as previously mentioned, could definitely be improved with therapy.
Thanks guys.
That Lazy Snail it's been confirmed that he hides his feelings behind jokes and is majority insecurerd. It said in the script
(Jared enters with practiced swagger that only the deeply insecurerd can pull off) something like that. So we may have no idea what he really feels.
Ihasmagma Animations I don’t think he has ASPD. He just doesn’t display the right symptoms. I definitely think he is very insecure though
I understand a lot of what your talking about. I have ADHD, because of that I also have anxiety, I freak out over seemingly small things. It sucks. I think a big reason that I like this is because it understands what having disorders is actual like. For example, depression. My friend has bad depression and she had told me what it's like, DEH basically gets what it's like. Anxiety sucks, it's like you have this feeling that you just can't shake..... You can tell yourself that it's nothing, over, and over, and over and you still won't believe yourself. DEH also gets these things. It's an amazing musical and I highly recommend it to those who haven't seen it yet.
DEH is amazing! I totally understand the anxiety thing, it's something I struggle with too. It's so important for there to be good representation like DEH out there.
Shaebug 0711 i have social anxiety but i do also freak out over really small and unimportant things and i always have this feeling inside me and when it gets really bad sometimes i can't breathe because i overthink things and the social anxiety really sucks, i can't get friends and i am really awkward because of it and sometimes i do get waves of sadness because if those reasons.
I have ADHD and general anxiety disorders I'm just always hyper and on edge and it's hell
God same bout Adhd
And i seriously know i have some damn form of anxiety either from my adhd or my dad telling me to be like my brother in academic level
my dad usually tries to ignore it saying im a Hypochondriac and I only have Adhd
Its very annoying and pisses me off and I will be asking my doctor when I go there for a checkup and it probably will be diagnosed because of Speech class and I am horrible with talking infront of many people so yeah
Ok so I love how you mentioned the fact that connor has bpd it was so obvious in the show that it made me really mad that they dismissed it as him being a jerk
Lololol she mentioned when he was like " yeah but you still have to wait for the guy to sort the change so it's awkward standing there!"
And it's silent and he's counting the change.... Honestly though, I have a panic attack if someone knocks on the door so that scene in the show was a big deal for me. Very relatable.
Overwatch_nerd _ Yeah! It’s true (I have anxiety). And what I thought of was all the (few) times I’ve gone out to eat with my family and I hate ordering so much because I have to talk to strangers, but even worse then ordering for yourself is ordering when someone else is paying because I’m extra worried about them thinking I made them pay too much for food.
I have anxiety, depression and social phobia and I think you talked about mental illness ins a very educated and well thought out way. I'm glad you made this video because it's important to show how well received any form of media that portrays these things correctly can become!
I'm glad you think I did a good job. I tried really hard to be as educated as possible (without years of medical school). I agree it is really important to talk about mental illness and the media that represents it more. We need to stop supporting unhealthy representations and start supporting accurate ones.
the whole thing about high functioning anxiety really hit me for some reason. i think that's pretty accurate to me as a person, seeing as i often hide my anxiety out of fear or being made fun of.
thank you.
Thank /you/ for watching the video! I also relate to high functioning anxiety a lot.
Wow she actually CITED HER SOURCES!!! *ON RUclips*!!! This girl is legit 👏😆
Always cite your sources babey
I believe I have high functioning anxiety I've been put on a pedestal to turn around my family's school lives and lives in general and I have the crushing fear of failure whenever I get something below a b, even though I'm not failing, I have a serious breakdown. whenever I can't do something right in sports my mind goes "you're nothing worthless can't do anything right." and I hate it it's incredibly counter-productive and achieves nothing through negative thoughts
I'm sorry, try to remain positive (although I know no one wants to hear that) it does help. You are not a failure ❤️❤️❤️
That Lazy Snail thank you so much!
I feel like the show points to Alana having high functioning anxiety when she sings “I’m waving through a window” in between two scenes, or not and they just needed a little more time to switch the props on stage idk lol
It did not occur to me
I think this was very educational and explanatory. You asked to say what mental disorders people watching have? Well, I know it's common, but I have ad/hd. I think you deserve more sub's, this helped me learn about the causes of many mental disorders so I can help people avoid them. Overall, this video deserves more likes and that one asshole who disliked it is probably dumb.
Ahh thank you so much! I'm glad you learned something. My cousin has ADHD, it is common but that doesn't make it any easier.
#adhdsquad
Took me til 5:35 to notice you're left handed 😂 But more importantly everything about this video is very impressive 👌🏽
Ah yes I am a lefty and sometimes it's a curse but I think it's worth it. Thank you, I'm glad you liked the video!
I relate to Evan in Dear Evan Hanson so much, and recently I've been having panic attacks and it's terrible,
Dear Evan Hansen made me sob uncontrollably because of how accurate it is. Dealing with anxiety and depression (it's the lower-case type of depression) is hard and can be difficult. And Dear Evan Hansen helps me when I'm feeling down. Loved this video!
I just want to say a quick thank you for making this video, I can clearly see all the time and research you put into it. Thanks especially for discussing GAD, as I have that, I was diagnosed when I was very little and all my life I really haven't seen too many people talking about it. ❤️
Thank /you/ ❤️
I just realized I have high functioning Anxiety. At school I’m laterally obsess with my grades and I always put a lot of pressure in myself and I don’t wanna fell. See I want to become a doctor since I’m little, because a important person in my family was in hospital (she’s still there right now). My parents were not really there, but when they always said something like:
87 % at your Math exam? It’s not enough ! Where the hell you think you’re gonna go with that ?!
And I just check and I have most of the signs.
Édit: I chek with my doctor, and I really have it.
i'm so glad you mentioned bpd because i immediately recognized the signs of it in connor
It's a rather understudied illness unfortunately
I'm not sure if you have read the book, but if you haven't, it may give more insight into the characters. Mostly Connor. The musical follows Evan, and so does the book, but you also get to see more of Connor in the novel.
I can't even walk outside without fearing people looking at me, I can't walk around town alone or even do things by myself without someone to help me and make me seen normal and keep me from melting down.
so that’s why alanna also sings waving through a window...
This is pretty much my favourite musical because I can relate to so many of the characters. One thing that really annoys me though is that I don't think you can ask people "hey, do you ever lie about absolutely fucking everything because of your anxiety?", and the lying is one of the worst parts of me I'm majorly ashamed of but I'm in too deep. Evan is one of the most relatable fictional characters of all time to me. Words fail ruins me emotionally because I can see so much of myself in Evan at that point.
I stuggled with lying due to my anxiety a lot too, its so nice to see yourself represented in media isn't it?
Thank you so much for this ! I really appreciate all the research and work you put into this video !
Ah thank you, I tried really hard to be sensitive because it is a sensitive and sometimes dangerous topic
If I ever need to do a project on anxiety or depression, I'm gonna rewatch this.
That means a lot, it means my video is informative enough that you could use it for a source. ❤️❤️❤️
That Lazy Snail well it's *definitely* easier to understand than other videos I've seen! I didn't even know borderline personality disorder was a thing!
Kinda off topic, but I got a feeling that I should maybe comment this.
I feel like a lot of people misunderstand bipolar disorder, PTSD, DID, and so many more mental illnesses.
I’m going to use bipolar as an example here.
I personally suffer from bipolar disorder, and I feel as though people use it as a negative term or an insult. When I have mood swings, very very frequently and at the drop of a hat, I’ve been told in a snarky voice “Oh my god, stop being so bipolar,” or something along those lines.
It’s not a choice. Believe me, I wish more than anything that I’d be able to stay consistent with my emotions, instead of going through them all in the span of 15 seconds(that’s an exaggeration but you get the point).
For me, I have one central thought, and start developing emotions based on that thought. One emotion will surface, and I will display that emotion. Not too long after another conflicting emotion will surface as well and I’ll have an inward-turned-outward struggle with myself to see which is more relevant to the situation.
On top of this, I’m a very sensitive person, and I don’t know if that’s because of the disorder or visa versa.
I am on medication for depression and anxiety, and mood stabilizers that have helped so so much. I think the most common misconception about medication is that it will ‘fix’ you, but it doesn’t do that. It just aids, in most cases, in your path to recovery and content.
Most(if not all, I’m not sure) mental disorders are chemical imbalances in your brain. The one on the tip of my tongue is depression specifically. I’m not a doctor and nowhere near close to a psychologist or psychiatrist, I just know what I’ve researched about my own disorders(PTSD, depression, anxiety disorder, bipolar, bulimia, etc.).
I hope that reading this wasn’t too boring. Please know that you, the person reading this, are always loved and always have someone to talk to.
No one deserves to be forgotten.
Now I feel weird. I always related to Connor, because I have inappropriate anger outbursts too and some people say I act paranoid. Now I feel like I might have borderline, but I dont want to talk to my family, because they never take me seriously.
Wow. First of all, this video makes sense. The disorders are explained extremely well.
Second of all, when you were saying that depression could be based on personality, at first I though I saw my personality type. So I rewinded the video, and paused it at the third one.
I’m an I.N.F.J, who has depression.
This is really fascinating to see I could be more likely to get depression, and I have it.
I’m in awe.
The MEYERS BRIGGS personality types don't really have anything to do with it, I was just looking for a way to explain it with a picture, although it would be interesting to do a study on how many introverts have anxiety/depression.
I literally didn't know high functioning anxiety was a thing. Since I was 12 I have believed I have anxiety bc of body symptoms (shaking, stomachache in social situations, headaches, physically not being able to talk at times, etc). I have been to the psychologist and the psychiatrist a couple of times but every time it's like "it's impossible that you have any kind of mental illness, you are doing too well in school"
You need to find a new doctor love, success in school means nothing.
@@ThatLazySnail oof, i have been to three psychologists and one psychiatrist and they've all told me the same thing
Hear even Hansen what to say to you.... you have my.... wait
I do this literally all the time, it annoys my friends and confuses my parents.
Cecelia Sherven omg
Omg a literally do this so much lol.
oof I'm sorry I don't really understand, can anyone plz let me know? 😖
@@yumeyuze its a Hamilton song
I have GAD and social anxiety, and when reading the novel and listening to the musical.. I couldn’t help but, feel happy. I relate to Evan, like a lot, and when I was listening to him through the book and songs, I felt weird, I don’t know, how to explain it, but I just related. I love Evan and Connor, they helped me realize I’m not the only person in this word with problems, and other people are scarred. Thank you Evan Hansen and Connor Murphy
I have VERY BAD social anxiety. I made my first friend in school in 4th grade and my best friend in 5th grade. I stick with those 2 friends because every time I try to talk to someone new, I have a panic attack. I also have dermatophagia and pick at my fingertips very often whenever I’m stressed. During school I have very very bad anxiety and stress because I’m worried about grades and basic school stuff, so I’m always picking at my fingers. Once my teacher saw my fingers were bleeding so she sent me to the nurse. I’m not saying this for people to feel bad for me or anything. I’m saying this because it’s very common and it needs to be more recognized as a mental illness.
This is amazing.
Thank you so much for making this video! I appreciate the time it must have took you to research all this.❤️
Ahhh thank you so much for watching, I'm glad you liked it. The research was actually kind of fun because I find it all very interesting and it's nice to be able to understand everything that goes on in my own, and other peoples brains.
My social anxiety caused my depression and my depression fuels my social anxiety.
I’m in a never ending loop.
I have depression and social anxiety, and the show helps me a lot
This show helped me finally get the treatment I needed, I am so glad it's helping you too.
AAAAA I'M SO PROUD THIS IS SO GOOD YOU DID REALLY WELL BABE!!!
AHHH thanks babe
Glory Hallelujah! I LOVE YOU
Ace / Maya ummm
I honestly think I might have high functioning anxiety from the way you described alana. It sounds exactly like me. I'm probably going to talk to a therapist about it. Thank you!
Why didn't you mention Jared? He had problems too. I remember in the show that in a scene during Good For You, Evan was telling Jared they had to make more emails. Jared said "You should remember who your friends are." Evan then said that he thought the only reason Jared talked to him was for car insurance. Then he went on to say "So maybe the only reason you talk to me, Jared, is because you don't have any other friends." Jared's reaction was threatening to tell everyone about the lies. He reacted in anger, and switched the topic from having/not having friends, back to the fake emails. After Evan said "Go ahead, do that. Tell everyone that you helped write emails from that need to be from a kid who killed himself." And then, the ever so popular "Fuck you, Evan!! Asshole!" In the script, it said Jared said this like helpless, heartbroken little kid. It was obvious that the fact Evan mentioned Jared having no other friends hurt Jared enough, and the possible reason he changed the subject was so he could find another reason to get mad at Evan. I mean think about it, if Jared has no other friends, he could be having problems of his own, BUT he is hiding it all with a mask. He's pretending like he doesn't care, he possibly pushes people away even. He suffers from mental illness as well, and while I really enjoyed the points you've made in this video, I think you could've mentioned Jared too.
I think Jared is a wonderful character I just couldn't find any specific /illnesses/ associated with his character. Alana was already kind of a stretch and I don't personally feel like autism or being on the spectrum is an illness. I don't think those people need to/want to be cured, or in all honesty that there is anything wrong with them in the firs place. I think Jared has issues, just none that are specific enough to be classified by an amateur like me.
*shudders at the mention of borderline personality disorder cause has most symptoms but talked to mother about it once and mother said she was just trying to get attention*
Around 2 years ago almost three now I had just recently moved to a new state and school. Basically ever since I can remember I've had problems with anxiety because of some of the things that happened during my early childhood but this was the worst it had ever been. I could sort of speak to people but not without shaking and feeling like I was going to vomit all over the person. That year was a very lonely period and I didn't even understand that I even had anxiety until I first heard of this musical. This musical and evan made me realize that I wasn't alone in these sinking, downward spiral thoughts, that they had a name and we're treatable. Every day after school I would listen to the soundtrack and just ball my eyes out, feeling too scared to reach out for help and if I was even worth helping. Then I met my bestfriend who helped me grow as a person more then anyone ever has before and made me love myself for all of me and not just the "non anxious and awkward" parts. In the summer though we grew distant because now I started to feel anxiety over him and just talking to him. I felt shaky and so strange when I would talk to my one and only bestfriend and I didn't know why. But they still tried to communicate with me and we're incredibly understanding and loving. But I just couldn't handle maintaining this realatinship I had once loved or any relationship. This mindset and the overwhelming feelings continued for another year and a half (with depression coming into the mix too). Just recently did I finally have the courage to ask for help. It took me so damn long and I wish I would have done it sooner because I feel better then I have since I was like a young child. Of course I still have anxiety and issues with my mental health but I feel more content with myself and the world around me and I wish I didn't wait because it heavily affected my friendships and relationships with family. What I'm trying to say is that if you're starting to feel like how I started to feel 2 years ago and just brush it off as puberty or "just a phase" please don't. Don't wait for it to get worse so you can "have a reason" to seek help. Trust me if you seek help earlier on, you will have less likely of a chance to fall down the rabbithole that me and so many others before me did. I am very grateful for this musical and I'm so glad i was able to find a voice of reason in all of the noise in my head, I hope if anyone s reading this, they can find that voice too. (Sorry I went on a bit of a rant in a RUclips comment section, this musical just makes me really emotional lol)
I am self diagnosed with High functioning anxiety disorder. Since im so young my mom usually undermines what I have to say. I try to tell her “I dont feel ok” or “Im really anxious” or my heart will beat five times faster than usual (even though I have a usually very rapid heart beat) and my thoughts ar just floating everywhere like “Im not okay” “am I going to be ok?” “What is this feeling “I’ve felt this before and “what do I tell my mom”. It started when I was in first grade, It started out as a small case of social anxiety. Then in fourth grade I had two panic attacks in the duration of 6 hours. I had a safe word that would let my teachers know thta I needed to leave the room. But when Im at home I have no one to talk to and this year the year before sixth grade I feel like I have no ine to talk to. At almost the safe time everyday around recess, near 11:15 or 11:25 I feel uneasy. I cant get around and I feel like I need to escape. The words cant get out because nobody has the key, no one asks if im okay or is like “hey howre you doing” even if they do all I can get out is “i-im (not) fine”. I cant get over it. My mom was like the last time I talk to her she said “What do you want drugs? You know since I was an addict you could get addicted too” and she sounded so angry and all I could say was “anything to make me feel ok”. Its one big hastle, because part of it was because when I was 2 up until I was 9 my mother was domestically abused by my dad. All I could do was sit and watch when it got bad and that triggered some of it as I got a little older. It happened in kindergarten too I just broke down in the middle of class so they sent me to a counsler and sent CPS to my house the next day when I mentioned a big fight they had a week prior. Im only 11 and Im carrying so much luggage with me that wont fit on the plane. Its so much and I cant get help.
I'm so sorry, there is evidence that life gets better though and you won't always be where you are. Middle school is the hardest, because your body is just trying to mess with you. High school will always be better and you are strong. You've made it this far already, you are stronger than you think.
Thanks
I like how you described how mental illnesses are linked. I understand that because my eating disorder and 1 of my anxiety disorders are linked to my phobia. And sometimes it’s hard to explain to other people
During a day I can go from being super happy and excited about life to contemplating death the next. My friends describe me as confusing cause I can go from being really happy to really sad. Also, I am scared when I am happy. I just think that the happiness wont last because something bad *will* happen. It's like I'm in purgatory. I self-harm about every 5 days. Often I just dont have the energy to. I am afraid to get into relationships because I am worried that I'll leave them suddenly from suicide and they'll be in pain.
Very good video! I personally have high-functioning autism, and for the most part it doesn’t affect my life, but I do strongly relate to Evan in many ways because of it. Personally, I see Evan as also having autism, evidenced by his awkwardness with people, his love for trees (excessive interest in something is often a symptom of autism- for me it comes out as fangirling, and for some people with autism I know it’s dogs, or robots, or something. For Evan, it’s trees.) And the sentiments expressed in Waving through a Window are common amongst higher-functioning individuals with autism, who can see they’re different from others, want to establish relationships with others but don’t know how. Once on a bad day, I spent a long time (don’t remember how long) rocking and quietly singing Waving to myself because it perfectly expressed how I felt.
I have high functioning autism too
Yeah my cousin has borderline personality disorder and she had that shock wave thingy. it so comforting to hear this, thank you.
BPD is so under-discussed. It really needs to be talked about more.
THANKYOU! every time I have suggested mlthat maybe Connor has BPD to any other fans they either don't know or just dismiss it and see him as just depressed. I'm glad I'm not the only person thinking this.
I just want to thank you for this video. As a person with social anxiety I'm often kind of misunderstood by my family because for them I'm just "shy" or "antisocial". But with that video you just show to people that we are not shy people or antisocial, and that it's possible for someone to not be okay. To struggle with something that other people don't even acknowledge the existence.
Thank you for showing to people who don't have these illnesses that we are existing, and thank you for showing us, people who suffers, that we are not alone.
You just made my evening. Thank you again. (And sorry for my bad english btw ..)
It means so much to me that this video had an impact on you. You are not alone and there are tons of people out there who understand these issues. We just have to keep proving to the ignorants that we are here and our illnesses are valid and a /real/ problem. Anxiety, particularly social anxiety is so glossed over because people can be considered "shy". We just have to keep raising awareness and being proactive. Your English is great by the way.
Thank you for mentioning BPD, I suffer with BPD and Depression but depression is very common and I expected that, I didn't expect BPD to be talked about because it isnt really well known at all. So thank you
My parents and my best friends parents don't believe in mental illnesses, but both of us are sure something is wrong with us. There is no doubt in my head that my best friend has extreme social anxiety; we usually only contact each other by text and she can not talk to strangers whatsoever. I believe I may have some sort of depression and high functioning anxiety. Of course, I may be wrong, but neither of us can go and ask our parents to take us to get diagnosed. We've agreed that once on of our dumbasses learns to drive we will take ourselves to find out.
I'm sorry your parents aren't supportive. I hope you someday you can find the support you need
Great idea, you both are very brave for doing it on your own. I hope things get better for you and your friend.
Thank you.
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Thank you for this. I started going to therapy for a few months now and this are only getting worse and worse. I suffer from anxiety (there are still trying to narrow it down, I'm going to a psychiatrist in a month) and some form of depression and a mood disorder. This just made me learn more about my future and what's ahead.
Don't give up! It does get better, I promise. I speak from experience too.
I’m not using this video as any way of self diagnosis but I do believe that out of all these illnesses the one that I might have is high functioning anxiety. I’ve met 2 people in my life with social anxiety. My friend who I’ll call Britney and another girl who all call Peggy. So Britney has quite minor social anxiety she just has trouble making friends and has very bad stage fright but she was diagnosed by a doctor for having it. Peggy’s is Very serve she breaks down in crowds hides in the corner for most of class. I don’t know if Peggy has been diagnosed but from what I know about social anxiety she shows almost all the symptoms very clearly.
I think that part of it is our society and middle/high school are just miserable times of life regardless of if you're mentally ill or not, but it does get better, and if it doesn't, seek help, because it can get better.
That Lazy Snail thank you for the advice and I already do have sessions that I go to.
Thank you for the warning in the beginning even though I have been diagnosed with ADHD/ADD and anxiety at cincinnati children's hospital and have been taking medication, it's still good that the viewers are aware that you are not a doctor! (Hopefully they already knew that) I'm also very glad you made this video in general. It tought me more about myself and the musical. It kinda made me feel the tiniest bit less anxious. Thank you!
Yeah, I notice that people really like to self diagnose and it's very concerning. I really just intended for the video to be informative not used as a means for diagnosis. Cause I haven't even taken a class on psychology so I'm by no means an expert. I am so happy you liked the video though
Me and my friend already came to the conclusion I probably have social anxiety but I'm now seeing why my mom thinks I'm depressed
You should see a doctor about it! Please don't use this video for self diagnosis, see a medical professional
@@ThatLazySnail I’ve been to the doctor since then I’ve got anxiety or OCD we don’t know which though and I think I have ADD/ADHD
As someone who has been diagnosed with GAD since the age of 18 this was really beautifully put and I can confirm the part of "people are aware that something irrational is going on in the brain" + that there can be signs of other mental health situations as well. DEH is one of my fave musicals since it was created and having a video like this really gives good insight on mental health matters. I will link this video on my website so more people can take note of it.
Omg thank you, I worked really hard to try to make the video as accurate and informative as possible
Wait...anxiety can often trigger depression???
Well, I'm screwed! I have anxiety, (um...I think? I dunno it's not that strong, i...guess? You know what, that's something for another day. Er...night.) and my mom has a bit of depression, and I've heard teens sometimes get depressive stages, so yup! Nother thing to prepare for! First the seasonal depression that may or may not come round in November, and now depression in high school! ...yay...better say good bye to my future grades...
Update: GOSHDANGIT, IM INFJ
WELL THEN
DOUBLE SCREWED
(Well I also think I might be INFP, but i think it's INFJ)
Your Meyers-Briggs personality is in no way related to depression it's just a symbol I used to illustrate the point I was making
Depression and anxiety affect everyone different there is no guarantee that because you have anxiety you will be depressed and teens get depressive episodes because rising hormones create intense mood swings. Your hormones while they can effect your mental state do not necessarily create or give you depression. Try not to think so negatively, your mind is very powerful and the more positive you are the more positive things will be
This is a great video. I'm very happy about how you can easily recognize the disorders and touch upon them very well and sensitively. It was also extremely thoughtful of you to add all of those hotlines in the description.
I feel like it's really important for everyone to have access to the hotlines and they aren't always the easiest to find
I haven't even seen DEH yet...just heard the soundtrack (hoping to see it next year when it comes near where I live!) but...the soundtrack alone has had me broken into tears many times because of just...how much I relate to Evan. Like...I have a hard time explaining my feelings and how my mind workds and why I struggle so much to improve myself and where I am in life and just...a lot of the lyrics to the songs in DEH just...ring so true to me. Especially Waving Through a Window, and Good For You. (GFY mostly if you imagine it from the perspective that the others arent actually say that...this is just Evan's mind imagining they are being this harsh after his mistakes...that this is how fast others' opinion of you spirals and how even your smallest mistake can be this world ending horrible screw up).
I really can't wait to see the actual play...the soundtrack alone has made me love it.
I...find it kinda funny that I discovered it through Sincerely me and...thought it would be a comedy because of such.
but...I'm kinda glad it wasnt...something like this really needs to exist in the world..whoever wrote this either has dealt with these issues themselves, or has done their research DAMN well because again, even without seeing the play...I can easily put myself in Evan's shoes.
yes im so glad you explored connor's BPD. as a person with BPD its so clear to me that he had this disorder. sadly a lot of people say its bipolar.
thank you for this video you did so well
Bipolar disorder does not fit him in my opinion, he doesn't have the mania that people with Bipolar disorder have. I am glad you enjoyed the video
Thank you, you really explained all of these illnesses well and I could feel more of a connection with the characters!!! This video is really important to me because of how honest it is.
Hey! This is amazing. I just wanted to mention, Jared probably also has quite a lot of problems! He’s not there just for comic relief. In “good for you” Will Roland really portrayed how Jared was really feeling during the fight with Evan. The reason he is such an asshole is because he’s insecure, and afraid to show his feelings in the slightest which leads to him acting rude. Also, his camp friends probably don’t exist. Which is very sad.
I had depression.... I only told one of my not online friends about it and she ignored it even though I was cutting (I'm a wuss though so it wasn't cuts that left scars and most of the time the cuts didn't even bleed) after that I just ended up not getting out of bed and most days I wouldn't go to school, in second year of high school I went to school for only a few weeks if you put the days together.... After like a week or two, I got bored of cutting and most of my time was spent on Instagram, chatting with a really good friend of mine, he knew about my depression but didn't bring it up in conversations unless needed, I also drew a lot (mainly sonic oc's) and roleplayed with my main oc, Swiftney, I also watched Aphmau a lot and listened to sad songs, I also read fanfics too and I would usually read them on deviant art but I eventually ran out of tmnt x reader fanfics and I went to google instead and I found wattpad where I was shy at first but I soon warmed up to the app and I have made some amazing friends on there.
During what I like to call "the great depression", shortly after I found comfort in fanfics, my mum got more aggressive with me and I stopped talking with her and stopped as much physical contact with as possible, whilst this was happening I became suicidal and I even googled painless ways to kill myself cause I have a fear of pain.
I read more and more fan fiction and spent less and less time with my friends and family, I also started eating more and because I wasn't exercising, I started gaining belly fat and I grew uncomfortable in my own body.
Shortly after I created a wattpad account, I found out that I was part of lgbtq+.
I thought that I was bisexual and I honestly started feeling better about myself, but then I thought I was genderfluid and I convinced my mum into getting me a binder.... I finally felt right about myself.
Then I started questioning my sexuality again and found out I am Pansexual but wasn't completely convinced until I met V.
Shortly after meeting V, I started questioning my gender and I have recently came to the conclusion that I am Non-Binary.
Sometime last summer (the school year before was 2nd year and I am currently in 3rd year) I started feeling less depressed and even started getting out of bed more often.
I am much much better now and its all thanks to wattpad and finding myself....
This much longer than my normal rants, sorry....
While I'm at it I'll just say, I've had ocd since primary school and the "Kyla touch" was invented and I have slight social anxiety
I've mentioned to my parents multiple times that I think I have anxiety (social and high functioning) and depression but they don't believe me so I can't get diagnosed. What's funny is my dad has social anxiety and my mom has PTSD so IDK why they think it's so impossible for my claim to be true.
hi! I really liked this video and thought it was very well done! I am a psych major and am studying mental illness and I thought this was very informative, but I did want to add something. (Note I want to add this for the sake of education and adding to the convo, not to be like rude or anything) I thought it was very intuitive that you picked up on BPD with Connor but technically, since his character is a minor, he cannot be officially diagnosed with BPD, or any personality disorder for that matter. The reasons being (and this is kinda hard to explain lol) is that for any personality disorder, to be diagnosed you have to be experiencing symptoms for a long period of time, and they have to be constant throughout different environments and since typically for the first 18 years of life (birth-college) you're in the same environment (same hometown and class, maybe moved, living with the same family) you can't be diagnosed. Usually those diagnoses will come after 18 years of age, but you could always be given something like "BPD-like symptoms", to key in that you would need help with these issues. Just a rule of thumb I learned that I thought was interesting. :) great video!
Ah thank you! That's really interesting I didn't know that (I wish I had known it so I could have put it in the video), but it makes a lot of sense that you would do that. It seems like it would be hard to diagnose teenagers in general and then personality disorders are all about a part of the brain that isn't finished developing until later in life anyways, so it really doesn't make sense to diagnose them when their brain isn't fully there yet. (I didn't think you were being rude at all. These are the kind of comments that give me life, thank you.)
aw no problem! That's another good point about brain development you brought up, and it's definitely true as well. It is harder to diagnose teenagers and children in general, but with other illnesses like anxiety and depression, it is a bit easier to diagnose than personality disorder, and I think you did a really good job with this video! :)
Okay so I'm not gonna lie I started crying like within the first 2 minutes so I didn't finish the video but idc because I literally discovered this show (really only like 2 songs) yesterday and I already love it and soon I'm gonna sit down and just listen to the whole soundtrack and cry and then look up tickets to see if it's still running on broadway.
It is definitely still running, but the tickets (even by broadway standards) are really expensive. I mean they aren't the price of Hamilton tickets, but most of them have been scalped now and really aren't cheap. I do recommend listening to the whole soundtrack though because it is beautiful and you will cry and love it.
That Lazy Snail Yea after I commented I checked. Went to a couple of sites, saw nothing below $200. Honestly I don't care. I'm only 18 but I'll save the money. I really wanna see this.
Good luck friend!
When I first told my mom I thought I had anxiety I pronounced the word wrong because I’d literally never said the words “I think I have anxiety” out loud before, even to myself (I was too afraid to) and I started freaking out in my head because I’d said it wrong and she just looked at me and said, “I understand.”
Please, if you think you have a mental illness, talk to someone! Even if your family doesn’t understand, SOMEONE WILL. Just know that everything CAN be okay. Just talk to someone you know you can trust, and if you don’t think you can trust anyone you know, talk to someone over the internet or the phone that you are sure would be able to help you in some way. The wonderful thing about Dear Evan Hansen is that I not only found Evan the character I most relate to out of pretty much any character I know, but there’s also such a large fan base that can understand how you feel.
Thank you so much for making this video and for everyone else for commenting. I’m sorry if I rambled too much or posted too many replies and comments…
I think you posted something good so don't apologize! It is very important to talk to people if you feel mentally ill and ask for help
As someone who is suffering with GAD, I can tell you that you are pretty accurate. GAD is horrible and many tell me that I "just want attention" from people. Thank you for making this video. You gave people some information about mental illness and also let people reach out for help. Keep up the good work.
I'm so glad you liked it, I hope to see you here in future videos
I swear you are one of my new favorite people. The way you explained everything was perfect, and you did research on it for a RUclips video you didn't have to make! Thank you so much for this amazing video, and I hope you have an amazing day.
This is one of the nicest comments I have ever gotten thank you
i like the >:( face you give to connor
Ahh thank you! I felt like it fit him pretty well.
Im sorry for this being unrelated to anything but the way she drew Illinois so perfectly seems so satisfying
small thing, but thank you for talking about ect in a reasonable way. I know three close family members who've had it done and they all say it really helped when other treatments didn't, but media always portrays it in such fear mongering and inaccurate ways (looking @ you next to normal) that everyone seems to think it's some kinda outdated torture akin to lobotomy
I can't really say much about this video, because I've never been good with words, but thank you. You did your research, and seem to really care. Thank.
I do care, I also suffer from some of the illnesses and I want people to feel understood and loved.
Snail friend!!! Personally I haven't watched dear Evan Hansen because it'll make me cry like a baby. Great video non the less!
TrashSlug I can't argue with you on the crying part because I always cry like a baby, but I'm glad you liked the video! I love your username too
This is why DEH is my favorite musical. I know it class I'll barely move or if we're taking a test I'll wait an unholy amount of time for someone else to get up and turn in their tests. And even when I'm the last person, I'll get so worried that I'm taking up everyone's time and stopping them from moving on in the class. I hardly talk to people and over think all of my actions to keep the friends I have even thought I know that I shouldn't worry because they're my friends, but I still worry
Why has this video been more help actually finding whats going on inside my head. A few weeks ago I just thought I had social anxiety and paranoia but now I think I have actually figured myself out somehow
I mean that's good but I am not a doctor and you should def talk to a doctor, they will most definitely help you more than I can
That Lazy Snail I’m trying to see a doctor and hopefully I can see one soon
I showed this to my therapist and she said you did a great job!!
Wow, this is so underrated, I found this so useful, thanks!
Thanks!
I have been diagnosed with anxiety and depression. I've had it all long as I can remember but it only started getting noticed about 6 years ago when I moved to a new state I was about 11. It wasn't the best situation for them to finally notice.I had started getting bullied at my new school ,then they would say that I threaten them or making me late or not show up to a class at all by locking me in the bathroom or in the janitor's closet. I stopped going to school I would wait for my mom to leave the house them go back in for the day.I had lost count of how many time I had thought of running away or of suicide. The school finally call my mom after a week of me not coming. I remember her coming home and being so angry. I locked my self in a closet in our apartment. The best day she drove me to school and a teacher was to say with me the whole time so I couldn't leave.My mom decided to take to a therapist after my first attempt in the school bathroom. But its been awhile I made friends ,I'm an actor at my school ,I'm an active member with my high school and I'm going to be graduating next. This sounds like a really random story but this is the story I tell my people at pride ,Anti- bullying club ,group therapy that I help,at my old middle school .I tell it to help anyone who might be going threw something similar that things can get better.But it you want to get better it starts with you.Go to someone for help, reach out .I love dear evan Hanson because it says that exact same thing. its okay if you feel like this just know youre not alone and you doing have to suffer in silence like Connor is this show did. "All feelings are valid" it you are feeling this way let yourself get help.
This is a very inspirational story. There aren't words for all the feelings I felt while reading this comment. But I am so proud of you and inspired by you.
That Lazy Snail I'm so happy to know that.I live to help inspire people around me.
This video was satisfying to watch. I love the time lap ish thing you do
Ahh thank you, I film myself drawing and then speed it up to my audio. It's like really bad animation
I LOVED THIS I learnt so many things I didn't know and actually made me want to learn more so thank you for this video
Ahh thank you for watching it!
I cut once in my life it was after my brother whom I went to for guidance he taunted me he is 22 and he lives with his mother and has no job yet he expects my respect because he "passed childhood" he moved out with a ridiculous dream and came crawling back to us because it was "too hard". Less on that I cut because of him I instantly regretted it why should he have so much control on the emotions I feel and what I do to myself so for the past year I have tried to just stop thinking and talking to and about him he is an asshat with no future unless he gets his game up I keep our sentenced brief and I have no intention of ever seeing him again after I move out.
It's hard not to let the people you live with influence your life and your emotions. I completely understand that and don't beat yourself up over it. It's good that you know that how he makes you feel is unhealthy and bad and you're taking the correct actions to get out of that toxic environment.
Basically, you explained me in the first little bit about anxiety and I never knew that I could have these... And don't worry, I'm not assuming I do.