Learn from this Maths Teacher who is Trading Options.
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In our video of Face2Face Emerge, we have with us our rocking host Mr. Vivek Bajaj, co-founder of StockEdge and Elearnmarkets, in conversation with Mr. Chirag Jain.
He is from Sirohi (Rajasthan) currently staying in Junagadh (Gujarat).
He has done B.tech in an electrical stream from Nirma University Ahmedabad, Gujarat in 2013. By profession, he is a maths teacher and the Co-founder of a coaching institute named ABHYAS ACADEMY for JEE/NEET.
Started trading in 2014, specifically in nifty and bank nifty weekly options.
In this video, our guest speaker will talk about his experience in options trading, which includes his strategy in detail. As a maths teacher, he will discuss his journey into the share market, and how he progressed after the initial struggle.
He will demonstrate through a trading view to show his strategy that is useful for the options traders. He tries to share an important point regarding journaling and studying the market before entering, which can give much better results. It is always preferred that people know about the venture they are being a part of before deciding anything for their career.
This video is a clear tutorial for people who are trading options, and emerge is providing a platform for people from every background to reveal their strategy. Our maths teacher will teach the tricks of options trading, which will help you in your financial journey.
The video thoroughly explains the art of writing down the pattern of the market and then taking an action after analysis. You will not regret this and will keep asking for more videos. So learn from this maths teacher who is trading options.
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Option writing without hedge in overnight position is a timebomb.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wrong...do psper trade n see result
@@abdulrakibe4945 ITHNA KYO HANSA BHAY 3,4 OK THIS IS TOO MUCH 9*😂
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I have not yet watched the complete video. But the thought process, the home work he has done, the psychology behind the presentation is fantastic.. I don't watch the f2f videos for strategy. For me the best thing to get from such videos is the thought process, the way successful traders/investors put their thought through their career. Today's discussion is on a different level than most of the stock market related videos in YT or other social platforms.
@Chirag - Sir, you are an excellent person and the thought behind each statement you make is of superior quality. Whatever you have explained in the first 30mins are nothing but quant analysis. I am surprised why didn't you (or Vivek) use this word!
@Vivek - Sir, as always your videos are imparting a lot of value into the learner's mind. May god bless you and thank you a lot for introducing Chirag Jain to us.
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Same thought
Vivek sir, I request you please arrange one more session with Mr Chirag Jain.
this is the safe and secure side of trading. it might look risky but nothing is at zero risk. so dare to take a calculated risk with proper planning and strategy. one more F2F with Chirag
Kya baat !!! No word! All I can say.. Maza a gya aaj ka video dekh ke!
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Sir I am intraday trader and in cash market. I use only one rule stop and reverse.
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Very very thanks both of you please Chiragji phon no de sake to bahut aacha hoga main wounko disturb nahi karonga
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Very Nice content...pls share Twitter handle of Chirag Sir..Very nice and humble person...
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Sir maja aa gaya
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Sir ka telagram share karna sir ji
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Vivek sir, I request you to arrange one more session with Chirag to have more clarity on adjustments and exit criteria, also to share his live trades and how he managed during Covid period
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Sir clearty nhi mili
@@Elearnmarkets Yes please. Ask him to come again
Covid period or his maximum time of exit 2.5 month should be understand.
One time again, pl come again
@@Elearnmarkets do you have chirag email id , i need to contact him
I'm no longer waiting for the stimulus check because I earn $22,000 every 14-16 day's recently🚀🚀🚀
That's a lot of cash, please can you explain how you make so much cash in 14 days
Please sir, can you explain to me my financial status is in a bad situation
Same I earn huge weekly profit of $14,320 on my Investment since I started trading with Mrs Rose Robert, her trading strategy are top notch🚀🛎️
I have heard a lot about investing with Mrs Rose Robert and how good she is, please how safe are the profits?
@@danielronald7610 Yes I can assured you because I have aslo been trading with her, profits are secured and over %100 return on your investment.
Dear Mr.Vivek, though you have mastery of all these things, you ask questions just for the sake of us like a layman to make us understand which is really awesome, which is called 'Art of Interviewing' and you got the mastery in it. As Mr. Chirag and you said, Writing notes is really a good habit. And thank u for putting English Sub Titles for ur South Indian Fans like us who does not know much of Hindi.
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I 👍 AGREE
Chirag, need further clarity on your strategy. Request that you make another video by ur self and explain adjustment process. Also go step by step and use specific terms like ‘sell in current week’ or ‘sell in next week’. Use clear examples with values of options - not just chart of BN. This will improve your presentation and your point will come across clearly. Good effort.
Sure
@@mathswithchiragjain1333 Sir little bit confused that when one side move came than after closing of all sides after move, strikes we have to sold is of current running week or of next week....plz expain.....clear with an example.
@@nagardinesh current running week
@@mathswithchiragjain1333 budget day ke din jo move aaya tha usme , loss 96k gaya hai aapke strategy ke hisab se, if we create new position and don't trade till thrusday,4000 points loss, how to handle that situation? PLZ explain .........thanks
@@mathswithchiragjain1333 plz do a short video on which expiry to select, how to adjust 🙏🙏
Great I don't know it's the right word.. there are lot of difference in books and practical. He is explaining his whole life experience and formed his own strategy which deliver to us in 1 hr. Great job. Thank you Vivek sir for sharing.
It's very clear Vivek Sir is not well, still he is fully active in asking queries & listening carefully. Commendable!
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i have been following exactly this strategy for past 9 months.. and have acheived 20 pecent gains till now.. i m doing it in nifty..
I did not understand much about adjustments and exit criteria. But still I appreciate your effort. Thank you Vivek Sir and Chirag Sir
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why no english
@@daya8070 because you are in India not in UK bro I had also studied in English school but I prefer hindi mostly. Lear hindi if you are not able to understand our language.
Please share his trade journal
@@shreemaruti3911 BRO in India there is no one language . there are many languages but English is an international language taught to us from prekg itself. one must know the mother tongue and the common international language. but hindi is not my mother tounge or international language.
It's good having market experts like Mr Franklin.
Mr. Franklin has been managing my trade for months and I keep making profit every week. I made "$24,500 last week also
I wish his trades for Covid fall could have been explained. that would have help viewers understand how to deal with even such falls using this strategy.
Agreed
Agreed and another double trap of mid jan21 to mid april21 should have been shown.
Right
Sure if got a chance will explained....
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vivek sir plz share how to contact chirag jain sir
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The common element every successful person has is "habit of writing and reading"...👍❤️❤️❤️
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First F2F video which is so confusing to me. Chattis hazar aur painthalis hazar ke beech me ghum gaya :-(
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Vivek sir, you are doing wonderful job. Face 2 Face interviews of long term investors would be helpful. Just a suggestion.
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A strategy with a very nice contra approach to adjustment. He is banking on the assumption that after a continuous fall or upmove, the market will reverse and that adjustment will capture profit a lot faster than holding original position. Generally people shift the tested option further out but he is keeping it near the market to capture reversal.
Basically he is converting his short straddle into a covered call where the underlying is deep ITM put. For doing the covered call he is using a leverage of 1:2 .
This doesn't carry much risk if one knows how to do covered call.
@@raviprakashsingh2115 but what if market makes one way move upside and never reverses, this wasn't mentioned?
In the case of downside move the presenter is assuming markets will bounce, this is a fine assumption.
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@@raviprakashsingh2115 I think he is converting his short straddle into short strangle (with his PUT leg deep ITM to get more premium/time value)
Vivek ji I am your gr8 admirer.
I have seen this F2F multiple times.
Mr.Chirag has shared an amazing strategy. It has worked for me too in this short time.
The more I see this F2F the more I feel u have not done justice to this F2F.
I don't know the reason maybe you were not well or what.
You looked lost multiple times in this video...even asked him why far week premium will be higher than the current week premium😂
Also you did not let Mr Chirag share his journal, his trades etc...that could have helped immensely.
Please don't feel I am criticising you...but jo aapne hume dekhne ki aadat daal di he, this video was not that🙏
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This is the most easy and No loss strategy, i Found on F2F.
Big fan of Chirag Jain Sir.
Nice and effective strategy and best part is that it very easy to follow but adjustments are not very clear.
Requesting Vivek sir to record part 2 on adjustment..
It will be great help.
Strategy is good but adjustments are more confusing.
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This strategy fails when due to trendy market we accumulate more than -1800+ points of loss. Then it's very hard to sell illiquid strike pe/ce. Because we have to go in-the-money strike of about 2000+ which usually very illiquid. Actually i tried once that time i face this issue. Let me know if anyone else face similar situation.
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chirag ji said, after 1st adjustment (suppose monday ko kiya humne) he says then upto thursday nothing doing. suppose 5000 points down fall hua tab be kuch nahi karna hai kya
Refreshing session... a different strategy compared to iron fly, condor etc. Thank you Mr. Chirag
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@@Elearnmarkets sir please give twitter I'd of chirag sir
This strategy will work great in normal situations but would bomb in COVID kind of crisis and will wipe out account balance as the downward move is sharp and will not have enough liquidity to adjust deep in-the-money options. But appreciate the thought of returning to the mean and doing adjustment accordingly.
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Chirag sir , even I am a maths teacher specializing I statistics and calculus. I am a directiona stock options seller. I loved your idea of writing 2 pages about market every day. I will implement it and make it as a ritual. Also thanks a ton to vivek sir for working so hard and bringing traders from different areas doing different types of trades.
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Hi Mr Deepak, i’m a math grad aswell, let me know if you’re interested in collaborating
@maths with chirag Jain hi can you tell what to do if after 1st rollover market goes another more than 1200 point move ?
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After First adjustment, your price range is decided on the basic of premium.
If market close in your Range, you will ended up in Profit.
If not please roll over again.
Hopefully u will make second part of this session to explain trades.
And please continue more session of emerge bcoz they are better than all others.
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Last point was confusing. He said that we should aim for 100-120 points in the beginning but at the end mentioned that to look directly on Thursday 3 pm
Did anyone understand when one should not sell 50 rs call? Pls explain
Look directly at 3 pm only if u didn't get the target & now you have to roll over.
If u've achived target. Then at 3 pm Thursday, u just take next weeks trade..
Suppose market went down and you need to carry PE short position..
Let say u are carrying 36000 PE then if any CE strike which is above 36000 and having 50 rs premium then short it
If all strikes above 36000 having premium less than 50 then don't short
When u didn't get exit from strategy in current week itself and if u need to do adjustment then u look directly to next Thursday 3 PM
Otherwise in current week u need to focus on 120-150 points and if u get it then exit
@@latamalkan7885 This 50 Rs call will have more than 80% change of becoming zero by expiry so this is minimum earning of the week which translate into 0.25% earning from the week. He explained it very nicely the logic behind his 50Rs option sale. Pls watch that part again, I watched it for 3 to 4 times, did my own calculation and was amazed to see simple logic that Chirag has put together in this trade.
No clarity, Strategy so confused.
Watch is again, i also got confused, while i watching it first time.
Maths was confusing so is maths teacher 😂😂
I can sense Vivek's reaction...how much he is convinced 😀😀
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vivek ji abhi tak i just watch your videos without subscribe ... but just doint aht because of chirag bhai.... request one more session to get more knowledge. because vo bhi mera jaisa hi ek type of jiddi hai but calculated. any way thank you
Aap kya kr rahe hai vivek sir aap ko pata nahi, mere jaise learner ki life change kr rahe......u rock sir.......aise hi options ke champion late rahiye. Aap ke options ke har ek video ka muje intazaar raihta hai....
don't use this strategy you will wipe out your account if you have to rollover continuously upside
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Dear Vivek Sir... saw the video today, but I feel there is some flaw in the strategy, like if you catch any lifetime high or low, you can never recoup, in case someone caught at COVID low he is still stuck, and in the recent case if you played on 15th dec 2022 which was life time high you are still not at BE after nearly 4 months, I believe the strategy has the potential to make one bankrupt if he was caught on the wrong side during COVID, sharing here to protect retail customers, request please share genuine strategies on your channel, like you verify the trader before the interview, the strategy also should be reviewed as everyone doesnt have the time or passion to dig deeper.. thanks once again
Top Optionseller trader P R Sundar was also MATHS teacher all his life..... he is
Fraud hai bhai wo buddha. 80k fees leta hai webinar ki jo mitesh patel aur vivek bajaj ji ne free mai sikha diya
Aji mera ghantghar h top ka option seller. Penny options sell karta h huge capital me
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@@hemant282 matlab oh nakiye matlab profit hona hai
Straddle is ok but why pe and ce sell for adjustment if market fall agains its big lose
Stradle selling is good but 650 point ko recover karne ka logic samjh nahi aaya..
Mean reversion hai
Nahi hua to
Mujhe bhi nhi aaya samjh
Jb high vix mai Trade karoge 1200 points ka range mil jata hai 1200 points one side movement hone ke baad 90% times mean reversion hoga jb 10% ni ho tb next higher premium put rollover kar do Range aur bada ho jayega
@@figuredoutfitness8154 more than 1200 point ka movement ka adjustment nhi samjh aaya
thank you
As the question came in the discussion, probability of a 6 sigma event is 3.4 times in a million events. ( 0.00034% chance)
👍 Correct, I'm 6 Sigma yellow belt certified.
2 lower circuits will wipe off 100% capital
@@krishnakalyan688 Nopes. Do the maths again. Its ITM Put that is being shorted.
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Punch line "if you less knowledge give less time in Market"
As I'm from Pakistan not completely understand in the money or out of the money terminology becouse in our market we can trade only simple ready and future Market.
Really grateful for being an alumni of him!!.
Such a coherent approach towards trading and market.
Appreciable Interview!!
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I respect your knowledge, still I have doubt your adjustment. Can you clear my doubt.
Maintain a journal & write an essay... very well put practice👍🏻
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100 POINT KA AGAR TARGET HEY THO WHY WAITING ALL THESE DAYS IF YOU HAVE CAPITAL,ONLY WEDNESDAY AND THURSAY ARE ENOUGH.
EITHER WAY PREMIUMS WILL DIE.
This strategy can make money because of back-tested and most importantly discipline (to not overtrade and rule based)
Thanks Vivek sir for bringing good face to face.
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He can't explain clearly.....that's y he had to switch from teaching to Trade & became a trader...😢
Vivek sir is the only person, who is asking questions to maths teacher without any hesitation 😂
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Covid period or his maximum time of exit 2.5 month should be understand.
One time again, pl come again
I think this approach would work for PE rolling down, it is like the approach where you keep selling ATM or ITM PEs expecting for a bullish market on a lon timeframe.
However, I do not see that thos approach will work when you are hit on the CE side, as the market may keep going up on one side for days and weeks and you may never get it back for ex. Someone selling 25k BN CE in Nov 20, would have been rolling for weeks and probably ran out of capital before market comes down to those level.
Exactly what I was thinking. The CE side is thar dangerous one, theres no point in selling ITM CALLS in the hope of a reversal.
Correct, waiting for such big fall to 20k or 25k in bnf is not possible and as he himself told such events will occur once in 10yrs... PE is fine but CE side adjustment should have been explained
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This is good strategy but it will blow up your mind when you will see 500 points net loss. cannot work with it on hope. Hope os never a strategy.
Vivek sir is not feeling well due to his health, still he is doing all this good work.
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Anyone track or follow this setup especially in this low vix era if any pl comment with your valuable experience
Again a master piece strategy Vivek Sir.. after watching 3times Picture got clear.. Surely a great strategy.. Discipline traders will surely create wealth out of it.. 👍👍
You can explain in simple way
Bhai if mkt continue down then what to do can we short deep itm put 2000 rs
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Plz make some small vedio how to creat journal with example.
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Naked selling is not good. Please don't spread it with retail investor... One event will be enough to convert your whole year profit into loss
Vivek ji, dhanyavaad. Take care of health. @Chirag Jain, Thanks for sharing strategy. Just a question, is it good idea to run strategy without stop loss?
If you remember, during Nirmala Sitaraman announcement on 19 September 2018, 2 Rs premium went to 1800...
One more thing, we need to monitor trade regularly to square off.. Right?
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Thank you for another great video!
We need to adjust on PUT side when market breaches 1200 points on down side? And adjust on CALL side if Market breaches 1200 points upside? The adjustments are little confusing also atleast numbers should be spelled in English considering wider audience.
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vivekji : we have learnt life time lessons from this video i have some doubts
1)once the cluster breaches 1200 points we will exit the position(ce &pe) suppose we made a loss of 500 points
same day we have to buy100 ponts ITM PE (vix goes up in falling market) and 50 CE,suppose next day market breached again 1200 points again do we need to shift our PE by sellingRs 1300 ITM PE or wait till weekly expiry
2)how did he manage his position during march 2020 period ?
3)in case V shape recovery will he place any SL for Rs50 CE
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It was confusing. Nothing was clear. Plz can he come down to a new maths student level.
Vivek Sir, Strategy looks very interesting. But I was not able to follow some part of the discussion. For eg @ 54:55 sir is taking about the condition for selling call option worth 50 Rs. And that part where sir has discussed about the switching 100 rs. May we get a write up on his strategy sir?. No doubt the Math teacher is having very good knowledge of option premium movement, but entire content could not be understood properly. It would have been better if the presentation could have be given with an excel sheet. Hope you will have a second webinar even if it paid one. Very eagerly waiting.
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Second part plz. Unable to understand if market falls/rise swiftly. Moving our short position near to market price is ok but loosing points keep on increasing & at certain point our required strikes becomes itm. Very confusing🙄
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26:33 modi ji ki press conference
Ye kab hui
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Apart from convincing to make notes..rest trading system is based on assumption n random
This strategy should not be used in a week having a important Event
What if market makes one way move upside and never reverses, this wasn't mentioned?
In the case of downside move the presenter is assuming markets will bounce, this is a fine assumption and the Startegy would work.
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market never makes one way continiously. It has to reverse.
Very informative and good work @elearmarkets and Vivek Bajaj. I am sure lots of learners will be benefiting from such work. Keep it up.
Gera mudi mane etki Bel jen bhasan maru6 j etki time re perfect Gyan dei thitu
Thanks
Thanks
Sir, please make it possible and share trades of februry, march 2020. I backtested, but M2M is huge. Please arrange.
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lagta hey magar nahi lagta hey. LOL. MATHEMATICS IS NOT LIKE lagta hey . as it is jo hey so hey.😁😁
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Chirag Jain ji aapko ek baar apna ye tarika trade k Phir se batna hoga adjustment bahut log ko samjh Nahi aaya
Your strategy is totally dependent on one principle dat market will be jig Jag.
If it's doesn't n rocket den after 1200 u will ....
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Adjustments r not cleared... Sir ji, please
Please start watching at 32 min save 30 min and thank me..else at 2x
Adjustment is not clear... Sir, please
VIVEK SIR ..... IS Math teacher ne toh mera dimaaag hi hila dala hai
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Kuch Asan tarike se option trading Strategy Bataeye
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Can't understand this bloody option trading ...
And it further complicated with call option sell and buy , put option buy and sell ...
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Bajaj sahab us haryanvi bache ki trah hain hain kr rhe h jo koshish to bht kr rha h par class khatam hone k baad copy faad k jaayega
Profit booking conditions are not clear! hope to see some real trade as said in last part of video 54:00 !
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Strategy is very good but I think Iron fly is much relaxed strategy then this. Exit 1% per week or if you are executing monthly iron fly ……. Esse acha kuch nai also we are hedge with iron fly and margin benefits.
In explained strategy sudden move is 2000 points then what to do will take 5-6 month to recover
In option selling always go with hedge with define loss
Thanks !
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Sir apne jo 50 chig likh rkhi h wo to excel seat bna k sand kr do
Without hedge overnight straddle......In case of of sudden big news you may wipe out your account
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Sir ...your 1/3 screen at bottom is getting blocked with Face2Face logg :(
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Most easiest way to earn money is selling options. Big Wallstreet traders didn't earn using opting writing. But by buying stocks and futures.
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6th time after that understand 50 rs call option sell
sir, gv some mathematical or any logic like this in option buying stetargy.!!!
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twice in a billion - Six Sigma Event Probability
Kindly request him to show is stratergy one more time , since its very difficult to understand the adjustments..
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Mr bajaj aapne 50₹ ke ce ke bare me pucha but mkt 35800 hai n woh bhai 36000 ka itm pe sell karne ko bolta hai uske bare me kuch nahi pucha?? Itm pe aur woh bhi girte mkt me??? Kya logic hai??? Dont invite like this bro. Staddle aise adjust nahi hota. But jo quality trader hai unko to aap bulate hi nahi ho. Any way wast of time vdo
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Lets imagine if we apply these strategy in intraday🤔🤔🤔🤔
Just need Chirag ji social handles. This is nice Stategy. Want to learn more.
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Bhai aapki es strategy me aapke notes kahan kaam aaye..??