It really is a great instrument for inspiration. With all the ability to change the stories to your needs, and with midi drag and drop for further refinements and using other instruments its very useful. With the crossgrade price I'm happy with the purpose.
God damn it, i already decided not to get it, but your review makes me want to give it a try again. I am still very bad at sketching and never got really into „the orchestra“, but this looks so much more complete and capable. Sounds much better and it is nice to see how you use it and expend on the ideas.
To tell the truth, The Orchestra 3 sounds way better and it's much more complete, given that you have all the isolated orchestral sections (Violin 1 & 2, violas, cellos, basses as well as trumpets, trombones, horns and so on...) each one with tons of articulations, while The Score just has those big mixed patches (High strings, low strings, high brass, low brass,...) with just a few articulations, that means much less versatility. The point is here you have much more non-orchestral instruments, at the cost of having a very simplified, patch based orchestra. It must be still said that this arrangement engine is much more powerful than The Orchestra series, almost in the style of EastWest Hollywood Orchestrator.
@@cosmodrome9478I hope they bring these updates to the orchestra. Probably will in version 4. I keep coming back to TOC, even after getting "better" libraries. It's a huge and very complete library. Rarely use legato's from TOC though, allthough the brass legato is pretty nice
Great overview video! While this may seem like a downgrade from East West Opus, I think it's important to remember price point. Many (most?) music producers aren't scoring blockbuster movies or AAA video games. The average listener for less than that isn't even going to notice. The price of most orchestral libraries shut the hobbiest or low to no pay producer out. Don't even get me started on Spitfire releasing a new expensive high end ultra niche library every 5 seconds. The Score should be applauded for its place in this.
@@Hugosanches594 East West Opus has every section of the orchestra sampled on its own, while The Score relies on mixed orchestral patches like high-low strings, as well as for the other instruments. Moreover, the EW Orchestrator can work with all the orchestral sections together - without the 5 or 10 instruments limitations - and every section is controlled with a specific track and with more detail. Anyway it's still a great library, especially for sophisticated sketching.
@@cosmodrome9478 and if i want to finish my works in orchestral tools libraries? And only care about sketching features? Which would be better? Ew or the score?
Has anyone been having issues using The Score with Cubase 13 and Kontakt 7, with the External Mode set to on (or off for that matter)? Sonuscore tells me that you have to set up The Score in a Rack and not an Instrument Track. Well, this doesn't work either. I get varying results, none of them work to get the exported MIDI tracks (10 slots) to play correctly. Either I get one track to play back, or some strange thing where more than one instrument plays back on a single MIDI track, even though the MIDI tracks are all set to different MIDI channel settings. I've been back and forth with Sonuscore and Best Services with no luck, no matter what their instructions are. Anyone's help will be appreciated, especially our esteemed host, The Sampleist.
@@thesampleist thanks...i noticed that the question couple times so far under bestservice and sonuscore videos but no answer so far which could be an answer^^
Thanks for this excellent overview. I was wondering, why you did not use single tracks for each of the 10 story instruments (=slots) in your DAW. I understood from the manual that this is possible, for eg. exchanging single thescore instruments by own (maybe better) instruments, like OrchTools con Sordino strings etc. By exporting all 10 slots into one singular DAW track that is not possible, but I assume you have a reason why you did so.
From a sampling standpoint, The Orchestra Complete has separate sample sets for each instrument group in an orchestra (violins 1 & 2, violas, cellos etc) but The Score only has high strings and low strings, high and low winds etc. I absolutely love TOC3 but am not the enthusiastic about the sound of The Scoore.
I really hate these libraries unless they are used as a starting point for creating something completely new with a preset. That's the whole point. They shouldnt be used to "cheat"
Cheers for the comment. That’s kind of the point of the stories. They are do customisable, you can completely change it to suit whatever else you’re doing. Inspiration starters, not whole track creators!
@@thesampleist if you start relying on this kind of libraries its the same as draging alrady made samples ... like i gues you could use them for textures or some clever way bot overral never be to reliant on them cause at some point everything will start to sound the same ...
@@HumanTouchArt it’s all about customisation and using the stories as a foundation. It also depends on your goal and what you want your output to be. For kickstarting creativity and inspiration, it’s a powerful library. You wouldn’t present the stories as a finished piece. But seeing how all of the tools connect together, it’s a very well rounded composing tool. Just my honest opinion!
having been making music for over 40 years and seeing various technologies come and go over time, i can't help but draw a parallel between these new ideas of "stories" or "patterns" etc with the kind of thing you would get on things like casio keyboards back in the 80's where you could hold down a note and it would play the chords and rhythm track behind it ... of course things are way advanced beyond that simplicity these days and I'm not saying its a bad thing, i think this is greatky innovative and inspiring if it isnt misused, but it does make me smile when i think of this comparison and see how old ideas come around again.
It really is a great instrument for inspiration. With all the ability to change the stories to your needs, and with midi drag and drop for further refinements and using other instruments its very useful. With the crossgrade price I'm happy with the purpose.
This has to be one of the best reviews I have seen. Thank you!
Thanks so much! We try our best :)
Thanks for the presets I think I would make some and share
Great job and I love your composition!
Glad you enjoy it!
Great review !!!! One question : how can we get rid of the chord piano sound when lead generated is playing ? Thanks.
God damn it, i already decided not to get it, but your review makes me want to give it a try again.
I am still very bad at sketching and never got really into „the orchestra“, but this looks so much more complete and capable. Sounds much better and it is nice to see how you use it and expend on the ideas.
To tell the truth, The Orchestra 3 sounds way better and it's much more complete, given that you have all the isolated orchestral sections (Violin 1 & 2, violas, cellos, basses as well as trumpets, trombones, horns and so on...) each one with tons of articulations, while The Score just has those big mixed patches (High strings, low strings, high brass, low brass,...) with just a few articulations, that means much less versatility.
The point is here you have much more non-orchestral instruments, at the cost of having a very simplified, patch based orchestra.
It must be still said that this arrangement engine is much more powerful than The Orchestra series, almost in the style of EastWest Hollywood Orchestrator.
@@cosmodrome9478I hope they bring these updates to the orchestra. Probably will in version 4. I keep coming back to TOC, even after getting "better" libraries.
It's a huge and very complete library.
Rarely use legato's from TOC though, allthough the brass legato is pretty nice
Great overview video! While this may seem like a downgrade from East West Opus, I think it's important to remember price point. Many (most?) music producers aren't scoring blockbuster movies or AAA video games. The average listener for less than that isn't even going to notice. The price of most orchestral libraries shut the hobbiest or low to no pay producer out. Don't even get me started on Spitfire releasing a new expensive high end ultra niche library every 5 seconds. The Score should be applauded for its place in this.
In which things is a downgrade. East west opus?
I would like an orchestration like that to export the midi and use with another libraries
@@Hugosanches594 East West Opus has every section of the orchestra sampled on its own, while The Score relies on mixed orchestral patches like high-low strings, as well as for the other instruments.
Moreover, the EW Orchestrator can work with all the orchestral sections together - without the 5 or 10 instruments limitations - and every section is controlled with a specific track and with more detail.
Anyway it's still a great library, especially for sophisticated sketching.
@@cosmodrome9478 and if i want to finish my works in orchestral tools libraries? And only care about sketching features? Which would be better? Ew or the score?
I like the term 'animated'. This, like many Sonuscore product is indeed not loops. It's animated music, generated by your input.
It's a sequencer / arpeggiator.
Has anyone been having issues using The Score with Cubase 13 and Kontakt 7, with the External Mode set to on (or off for that matter)? Sonuscore tells me that you have to set up The Score in a Rack and not an Instrument Track. Well, this doesn't work either. I get varying results, none of them work to get the exported MIDI tracks (10 slots) to play correctly. Either I get one track to play back, or some strange thing where more than one instrument plays back on a single MIDI track, even though the MIDI tracks are all set to different MIDI channel settings. I've been back and forth with Sonuscore and Best Services with no luck, no matter what their instructions are. Anyone's help will be appreciated, especially our esteemed host, The Sampleist.
Strange. I’ve recently updated and had no issues. Hope you get it sorted :)
@@thesampleist Thanks for your reply. Any chance we can compare notes? Is there a way to contact you directly?
How much new samplr content hss the score?
Or has it samples from older sonuscore libs within this engine?
I believe it is all new content yet I’d contact Best Service for a definitive answer! :)
@@thesampleist thanks...i noticed that the question couple times so far under bestservice and sonuscore videos but no answer so far which could be an answer^^
It seems to me that some of the “world” content may be derived from their Origins instruments.
27:33 in chord studio could you show or tell me every kind of chord possible? For example chords made by 4th like D-G-C-F
Is possible?
Thanks for this excellent overview. I was wondering, why you did not use single tracks for each of the 10 story instruments (=slots) in your DAW. I understood from the manual that this is possible, for eg. exchanging single thescore instruments by own (maybe better) instruments, like OrchTools con Sordino strings etc. By exporting all 10 slots into one singular DAW track that is not possible, but I assume you have a reason why you did so.
Thanks for the comment. While that is certainly possible and a viable option, we want to focus on The Score completely in our video. :)
Whats the differents between the score and the orchestra complete 3. As a beginner i realy like this.... what do you prefure as a trailer composer
From a sampling standpoint, The Orchestra Complete has separate sample sets for each instrument group in an orchestra (violins 1 & 2, violas, cellos etc) but The Score only has high strings and low strings, high and low winds etc. I absolutely love TOC3 but am not the enthusiastic about the sound of The Scoore.
I really hate these libraries unless they are used as a starting point for creating something completely new with a preset. That's the whole point. They shouldnt be used to "cheat"
Cheers for the comment. That’s kind of the point of the stories. They are do customisable, you can completely change it to suit whatever else you’re doing. Inspiration starters, not whole track creators!
@@thesampleist if you start relying on this kind of libraries its the same as draging alrady made samples ... like i gues you could use them for textures or some clever way bot overral never be to reliant on them cause at some point everything will start to sound the same ...
@@HumanTouchArt it’s all about customisation and using the stories as a foundation. It also depends on your goal and what you want your output to be. For kickstarting creativity and inspiration, it’s a powerful library. You wouldn’t present the stories as a finished piece. But seeing how all of the tools connect together, it’s a very well rounded composing tool. Just my honest opinion!
having been making music for over 40 years and seeing various technologies come and go over time, i can't help but draw a parallel between these new ideas of "stories" or "patterns" etc with the kind of thing you would get on things like casio keyboards back in the 80's where you could hold down a note and it would play the chords and rhythm track behind it ... of course things are way advanced beyond that simplicity these days and I'm not saying its a bad thing, i think this is greatky innovative and inspiring if it isnt misused, but it does make me smile when i think of this comparison and see how old ideas come around again.
Maybe learn the library before hitting the record button.
Cheers Tonyr, I’m always open to constructive feedback. What do you feel I got wrong?
@tonyr - Maybe learn to how to make an intelligent comment hitting the send button...