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Why Do Flag Emoji Count As Two Characters?
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- Опубликовано: 22 июн 2014
- tomscott.com - / tomscott - If you've tried to tweet a national flag emoji lately -- I can't imagine why -- you'll have noticed that you can only fit 70 of them into a tweet. The reason why is buried in a bit of technical specification, and shows how your phone can lie to you...
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Oh, snap! i was planning on tweeting 71 french flags!
Haha lol
RedBirdRedstone Tweet white flags (⚐). It's basically the same thing and they count as one character each.
+Jan Sten Adámek That's the kind of flag I wave when I try to understand this stuff
+Jan Sten Adámek The white flag is basically the French flag... They wave it around enough.
Kill3rCat oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh dayyyyyyyyyyummmmmmmmmm
Is... Is that an entire wall of dry erase board?
Oh. Oh I see.
no.. just a wall xD
There are desks made of it, why not walls? It'd probably be an over-preparer's dream!
Common in many universities
@@adamfra64 My sisters room was a white board before, didnt realise it was that uncommon
my android only displays the letters and i was so confused as to why everyone was tweeting the letters DE after the World Cup and now i know lol
Mike 'm_jacko12' Jakubowski 🇬🇧
🇫🇷🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇫🇷
🇫🇷🇮🇹🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
🇫🇷🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇫🇷🇫🇷
🇫🇷🇮🇹🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
🇫🇷🇮🇹🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
🇳🇳
DE
*DE*
Tom didn't your parents teach you not to draw on walls?
that's his bedroom, his parents knew he wouldn't listen so they just made all the walls whiteboards.
+BlazeChronicGreen420 why doesnt it work with whiteboard pen then?
coooooooooool1000 Possibly a special type of whiteboard marker that works with the whiteboard wall...
Most likely is what Tom is using in this video.
hundredth like
"...combine those, making the french flag" *draws a white flag* classic Tom :)
"nous nous rendons"
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The wheel spins, and lands on France
To be fair, the actual French flag WAS a white flag for a while, during the bourbon restoration. It's the colour of their royalists
Mega oof
Fun fact, using these emoji is popular on Discord because they look like big letters-a more meme-y version of SHOUTING IN ALL CAPS.
Discord automatically puts spaces after them when you insert them, and I've seen some people confused as to why flags appear when they delete the spaces... Now they'll know why!
They're also used as reactions, if you want to react with letters
2:42 That's a 100% correct French flag
Dammit I was about to say that :D
In some eras, yes! It was in fact all-white for some parts of history!
They fought under that banner, and they were _feared_ for it.
It was their flag between 1814 and 1830...
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I am curious how old Tom Scott is...
He looks young, but got a lot of grey hair.
He's been in his mid 20's for the last few decades.
My grandmother had entirely white hair by the age of 17... Strange stuff happens all the time XD
+Teth47 Continuous Marie Antoinette syndromes?
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Internet: You're impossibly well-traveled, and smart. Your skin is pale white like you're of west European heritage. Your shirt never changes color, and sometimes you speak like-like you're from a different country. You never age or grow a beard. You don't go out in Slough. ... How old are you?
Tom: Mid-twenties.
Internet: How long have you been in your mid-twenties?
Tom: A while.
Internet: I know what you are.
Tom: Say it. Out loud. Say it!
Internet: TAAM
“Lets say you’re French and youve just stormed it against the Swiss”
That aged well
Wondered if someone mentioned that
The English bit too.
Why did he put the red and blue on the french flag?
+IScreamAtCats33 Beat me to it
XD Much love man.
+IScreamAtCats33 I don't get it.
Szymon Gorczynski Oh lmao. Sorry I'm being thick.
That's why when I put 2 Icelandic flags in my bio people thought I was part of isis
@@Saucy-ws6jc In Icelandic the country is called "Ísland".
@@NeoMark627 Island is an Island in Island
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2000 : The internet is full of wonders! I bet that we will be able to learn anything in the internet of the future!
2014 : "Flag emoji count as two characters"
Damnit. After 6 years this video is still accurate. Doesn’t happen a lot on RUclips these days.
the character limit has increased to 280
Well so are most other videos about unicodes
Unicode is designed with future proofing in mind so that's not changing any time soon.
"Let's say your team has won the world cup. Unlikely if you're english"
Of course it's still accurate.
2:17 Well that’s not the case. All versions of Windows including windows 10 DO NOT support flags emojis. All you can see for 🇫🇷 is 🇫 🇷(without the space in between).
Maybe Microsoft isn’t willing to deal with these political things.
They don't wanna anger China
My old android also cant see flags
🇫🇷
@@imperson1785 🇹🇼
@@gamermapper What type of flag is that???
That is a very cool whiteboard.
Watch the rest at the end of the video. It isn't a whiteboard, unfortunately. LOL
YSDQ
I've seen that, but that's exactly what makes it so cool.
Its paint that is meant to be written on with whiteboard pen.
@@kurtc5957 WHITEBOARD PAINT
YSDQ its a giant whiteboard, its weird but some lecture halls have these
Discord people realizing why they're called regional indicators: *A S C E N D E D*
Lmao
I can confirm.
@MintyKP Found another discord user
:e:
EXACTLY LMAOO
That second camera angle is really weird, it feels like you're talking to an audience
Yes. It also feels sort of tacky, like an infomercial when they try to be trendy and impressive.
According to a reply on some other video, it's to help disguise the joining of different takes while also keeping the video more interesting since it uses more than one perspective
Zyngarde I understand that, but they could’ve used a better second perspective.
I actually learned this because in discord there is an emoji called regional_indicator_[letter] and you can use these to sort of spell out emoji words. I had once put f and r together and it showed up as the French flag... I was very confused, and watching this video I was surprised that the example was my situation! Anyways, nice video, I really enjoyed it!
Some types of interactive whiteboard can't be used as conventional whiteboards, so resulting in the same problem.
The other classic is accidentally using a permanent marker...
Mercifully, many solvents, e.g. acetone, isopropyl alcohol (tape/CD cleaner) or denatured alcohol will get rid of them - usually without damaging the board.
You can actually get rid of permanent marker from a whiteboard by filling in the mark with a whiteboard marker and then erasing it.
And, of course, you will always get that _one_ lackwit who uses _a permanent marker ON AN INTERACTIVE BOARD,_ even though they've turned the sodding thing on there's an electronic pen just sitting there for them to use.
Hanging's too good, etc.
Funny you say that, I've just damaged a clear plastic paperclip by trying to clean it with acetone. Take advice from those who know better and test on a small surface!
@@BvousBrainSystems Why were you trying to clean a paperclip?
@@theblackwidower It was probably dirty.
So much has changed, that the title is true again :)
About a year ago, Twitter has extended its character limit to 280, but started counting two-byte characters as two, making country flags four character long (and other emojis, including other flags even longer, with subdivision flags, like England's 🏴 being even 14 characters long).
And then, Oct 2018, Twitter started counting all emojis, regardless of what's inside them, as two characters (or one two-byte character), and 🇫🇷 is two character again, but so is 🙂.
Uƞicode is usⱸful.
The weird n worked but the other one didnt it was just a box with a ?
its a weird e with something like ~ on the bottom right
thópr 🆅🅔🅡🅨
thópr e~
How much did that wall cost?
Well he'll make someone else pay for it
+iamanenigma unknowntotheworld Like... Mexicans ?
+Jordan Steel a bucket of dry erase paint costs anywhere from $20 - $200 dollars
It could even just be white aqua panel. (The plastic like stuff on walls in some bathrooms)
A small Loan of a million dollars
On a previous phone, I used to be able to hit the delete button when I typed in a flag and it only deleted the last letter, leaving one letter. The letter wasn't dotted though, it was just bold. If you would type the Nepalese flag, delete the last letter, then type the Spanish flag and delete the last letter, a Dutch flag would appear. This quite explained the whole concept of flag emoji's to me then.
"Let's say you're French and you've just stormed it against the Swiss"
Euro 2020...
😭
"Let's say your team has just won a World Cup Match. Unlikely if your English, I know." x)
you were already done drawing the french flag at 0:25
+sonikku dammit I don't get it.
+Daniel Dorda the flag of surrendering
Vaughn Colestock i need more explaination what happend, please.
It's a shitty joke Americans make about France, that their flag is just a white flag of surrender. I heard growing up that French gave up on WWII and were pussies, even though they in reality contributed a lot, and some people still hold the prejudice.
+Daniel Dorda
Squiggy Seven: First Impressions [NES Reviews] Thank you.
Idea of new video: I was stunned when on my old Nokia phone I could use 160 symbols for SMS, and if I make it long it gave same 160 symbols and started a new one, after that it sent out 2 SMS, but the receiver got only 1 long SMS. On the modern phones, if I make long SMS, they give me just 120 new symbols for each the new one. What the heck? And it gets even worse: if I chose to write Ukrainian or Russian they originally give me just 70 symbols. So, maybe in the SMS system there are no standardized eastern European symbols? It would be really interesting to dig in...
Vadym Mykhaylyuk 🤔 Is all that I can think of in reply.
It's due to character encoding, depends what the phone and the carrier use but the gist is, for an ASCII character, 7 bits is used to encode it, for other characters that need UTF encoding with 16 bits for each character, you can only fit 70 characters in a single SMS. Russian and Ukrainian specific characters aren't a part of ASCII so you get a 70 character limit.
I have an F
I have an R
ughhh
French flag
this meme was relevant for 5 minutes. it is no longer relevant.
And that is the most accurate representation of the inner worikngs of a computer dealing with unicode
This joke has not aged well...
🇫 🇷 🇫🇷
the only good pen pineapple apple pen joke
Tom: Your french flag at the end is a bit out of date. It hasn't been all-white since the end of the Ancien Régime.
It was white during world war 2 when the Germans came knocking
oof
StalkingYouMate
What? No. The French Republic's flag was the familiar blue-white-red. As it was for Vichy France, and the provisional government that followed the end of the war. The government-in-exile lead by Charles de Gaulle used it too, though they added a red Cross of Lorraine to the center section.
It was white because they surrendered you nugget, it was a joke
Keiya Bachhuber omfg
The coffin emoji counts as 2 characters why? This one ⚰️
Because funerals are so expensive they even take characters away from your smartphone.
^^
[C][F] , maybe? Which is, _entirely coincidentally_ (ahem), also the flag code for Switzerland.
because there is a person inside it
@@raspberri love it
TL;DR version: he wrote on a wall and it won't come off
Insert incoming joke about 69 likes here
2:43 "And that's a French flag"
*Leaves flag white*
Tom’s handwriting is actually really cool.
They should add a feature sort of like some other emojis, where you hold it down and it changes slightly. Where if you hold down the flag it gives all its former historical ones.
0:03 Tom jinxing the English once again.
Dat ending... DOH!
Awesome. I actually learned two things from this video; other than the unicode flag thing, I also learned that the plural for emoji is emoji.
Japanese doesn't have a singular/plural distinction, so there's no sushi and sushis, just sushi, nor anime and animes, just anime, etc.
One emojo, two emoji 😏
Are emoji from Japan?
firstname possibly. The name for sure was coined by the Japanese.
There are much more like uncanny valley dad joke etc
Why did this have to get recommended now...
2:38 As you can see, Tom Scott draws a white flag (which usually symbolizes "surrender") and tells the viewers that it is the French flag, making a subtle joke about the French surrendering in the Battle of France.
I just LOVE your storytelling style
2:22
TOM: "Puts 'em together, *lies to you* ..."
Me: *I knEW it*
2:42
Tom knows what the REAL French flag looks like.
2:43 Of course the colours on the french flag are white, white and white.
How else does one surrender?
So, Blanc, Blanc, and Blanc?
2020 and this starts landing in RUclips recommends.
My phone has letter emojis, if you use those to put in "FR", it'll switch to a french flag
I kind of guessed the solution to this but I wanted to check if I was right :))
0:23 was hoping you wouldn’t have filled it in
Bruh, just 4 years later we are making it to the semifinals and it’s coming home, oh how quickly things change
RIP
3 Lions on the shirt 54 years of hurt, somehow stopped Tom dreaming!
Hey Tom,
Thank yoou for this neat inside on emojis. But I just tested it on twitter and found out, that the rainbow and the pirate flag use 4 letters! Do you know why is that?
In gnome-terminal (the terminal emulator for the GNOME desktop environment) the flag emojis are shown as the two-letter country code in bold blue and molten together and not as the characters separated and each surrounded by dots. I've actually never seen the dot-surrounded representation, all the time either the flag icon or the bold, blue, molten-together characters.
2:23 "Lies to you" That quote low key made me mad
Surrender flag?
Maybe I dont know everything about unicode, sure, and maybe I could be wrong because I never STUDIED anything like this, but from what I know, this is incorrect. The flag emojis are treated as two different characters, but not for this reason. When unicode was presented, shortly after I new form of unicode characters were released called "Modifiers". Now modifiers work quite simply: a modifier character is placed AFTER another unicode character (emoji for example) to modify the previous character. This is the same way emojis now have skin tones that you can change (modify). The flag-- from my knowledge and use of flag modifiers-- is one of the most commonly modified letters. See, the usual unicode character for a flag that is UNMODIFIED is "🏳️" (as it displays in this comment on RUclips) and by proxy, a modifing character can be added on to change it into say the french flag, lgbt flag, chinese flag, et cetera. As an example, the LGBT flag (a rainbow flag) is represented in unicode as "🏳️ 🌈", the rainbow being a modifier and allowing for the previous emoji flag to combine into "🏳️🌈". If you don't believe me, try it yourself. In a comment, copy and paste the white flag emoji, and then directly after, paste the rainbow. If you've done it correctly, you'll immediatly see a change to the LGBT flag.
Of course I completley respect Tom and his team for putting this together, and I am possibly incorrect and the video is correct, but this is just the knowledge I have. Thank you.
Bottom line : There aren’t actually any flags emojis so they improvised..
And probably the same reason why we can’t type in those special letter emojis...
It's such a rare moment to see Tom Scott Filming A Video In His Own House, Rather Than Roaming Around The Whole World..😂
The example you drew (A and Z) is probably Azerbaijan's flag
Unicode aint got time for fluctuating military coos!
*coups
lol my bad
QTHERESSERECTION French loanwords, huzzah. It's actually short for "coup d'etat"
so thats why when my friend skypes me pictures of the qatar flag (dont ask qhy) it shows up as 'QA'
Where even is qatar?
go back to school
cityuser i just figured out where qatar is
@Kanashimi I'm now at the end of mandatory Geography as well, and can confirm, Qatar was not mentioned. Apologies to the guy I insulted for not knowing where it is. It is a small middle eastern nation famous for being very rich because of oil, and for its large national airline of the same name: "Qatar Airways". It is located slightly northwest of the United Arab Emirates (largest city "Dubai"), and shares a border with Saudi Arabia. The capital is Doha.
Why?
0:06did he just foreshadow France winning the World Cup
2:43 I've been dying to make that joke...
If you have an LG phone, you'll understand this problem. LG only has 10 flag emojis so anything else shows up as two letters in blue. For Canada it'll say CA
So at the end of the video the french flag is a fully white flag.... very smooth Mr Scott. Well played.
Fun fact: Discord, the chat platform, actually lets you use regional indicators as letters.
🇫 🇷 (space added in between so you can see it, try to copy and paste these, then remove the space: presto)
🇫🇷
FR
This reminds me back when I played Minecraft trying to type emojis on Xbox live on signs or something, and they always ended up looking like that.
So this is why my Instagram bio had “too many characters,” when it said the character count still said I still had 1 character left
Funny how he just draws a white flag as the French flag in the end. :D
I surrender
1:54 *rubs out perfectly*
later: "it won't come off"
A while ago, I had a weird phone, and when you typed multiple flags together and hit backspace, the regional indicator letters would show, and you could use this to make a flag with a question mark on it that I think was a placeholder for “There’s no flag for these indicators!”
Had to listen to the first sentence 3 times to realize he was saying "world cup match" The brittish accent is strong with this one.
Predicted that France won creepy whos watching in 2018
So why does the Norwegian flag turn into the German flag on my LG G2? 😂
WW2
Giradox 😤
Triggered
Not updated since 1945... :P
🇳🇴 Works for me
Because Germany has Reich-Zeit with austria and influences evry Country in Europe with the jerman Flag
"Is this not whiteboard paint? This is a wall, I've drawn on the wall."
Can you input those letters independently? Say just the F and not the R? What if Russia is RU and you input FRU next to each other? Do you get a French flag and a bare U?
You can see these on discord actually. They're literally emojis there
:thumbs_up:
I wonder why he never coloured in the french flag the second time around...
they're pretty much the same flag
Those regional indicator symbols happen to be very useful to reacting for discord. Ahahahhaga, we can talk in the announcements now
So is that a whiteboard room? Because that's cool!
(I do know how you can make your own, but this looks more like a whiteboard than just using glossy wall paint.)
" I hate schtick"
-Tom the emoji expert Scott
"this is just a wall...i've just drawn on a wall." i'm dead
I noticed that when people post a Brazil flag in YT and I read by PC, it's a B R in blue
2:00 discord actually made emojis for those regional indicators, :regional_indicator_[letter]: and when sending just one, it will do like it's a letter emoji, but when sending two of them together, like :regional_indicator_f::regional_indicator_r: it will convert instantly to :flag_fr: when sending.
I like how you didn't color the French flag after.
Etrius Lau I thought he nailed it
What are you talking about? It already has all colours needed
0:55 the hole wall is a blackboard.
I want one of those.
Argenis Jimenez *whole
whiteboard*
*the
Ah I remember the good old days when tweets were only 140 characters. The site lost its charm when it went away from that imo.
I had to go check on twitter for myself. 2021 and the character limit is now 280 but they still take up 2!
Along the same lines, using a single emoji in a text message will often cut your character count in half, because it changes the encoding of the message, and text lengths are based on bytes, not characters. The more you know...
I thought UTF-8 was supposed to solve that? It offers 1-byte representations of ASCII characters at the same time as multi-byte representations of non-ASCII.
George Bateman
I *think* text messages use either ASCII or UTF-16, which is silly, but I *think* that's the way it does it.
TRiG.
George Bateman The GSM standard was written before UTF-8 was popular.
My Android browser lets me pick the character encoding, but still does not display emoji components by switching it, so I guess that it's the font that's missing highlighted characters.
Flags: Exist
Unicode: Oh no, I'm not brave enough for politics.
Nothing to do with bravery or politics. Everything to do with bureaucracy and work. They would have to alter the symbol (which in turn is used as a template for every font on every device) whenever a flag changed.
Most emoji symbols define the meaning, flags are meansings that define the symbol, and meanings they are singular.
Meanings change all the time, so the symbol change, and emoji of a car doesn't need to be changed even tho cars aren't the same look because the word andeaning car doesn't create the symbol, the mechine that consist of 4 wheels and move makes the meaning of the car.
Changing Unicode means update to every mechine on earth that uses them
(sorry if this offends anyone because it probably will)
I like how when you redrew the French flag you didn’t fill it in and it was still the French flag
*gets this recommended as 5 years ago*
*opens video*
*sees at description that the video was uploaded 6 years ago*
Me: [confused screaming]
Flags don't work on android :(. They show up as blue bold letters.
oh, I always wondered why people typed that
+Sven Producties | bleuthoot Works on my phone... Your phone must suck... Team LG G4!!!!
+MrTwhispers Nope, it's the android version. I had 4.4.4, those flags where added in 5.x. So I updated my phone to Android 5.1.1
+Sven Producties | bleuthoot I have them on my nexus 7 running android 6.0.1, but not on my phone (OnePlus 2) running 5.1.1, so I'm guessing they were introduced in marshmallow and not lollipop
+Adam Burdett 6.0.1 they were introduced
Drinking game: take a shot every time you find a "white flag=French flag" kind of joke in the comment section
Did so ......
... while sitting --
-- no, meanwhile lying --
-- on a park bench ......
... can someone fetch a
wheelbarrow and bring
me home ... ? 😃
@@Reinhard_G.1965 are you ok?
Yes, so far... I only haven't seen
so many white mice around me
ever before! 😉
I already know why before watching the video.
Emojis count them as FR for France, NL for Netherlands, US for United States etc.
"Things you might not know"? More like things I know already because I watched this video years ago, but it's in my recommended, and I'll gladly watch it again.
Be predicted France winning in 2018
so you can only have 676 flags?
Arthur lee what?
the max amount of flags allowed by this system is 676(26x26)
TheNinjas
what? in twitter you can use 70 flags in a tweet.
Rhys Reene Gaming He means in general not in twitter
TheNinjas
There aren't 626 countries.
It's kind of the same when pressing Return key on your keyboard, it takes two chars as well. It's because behind the scenes, it's actually a combination of carriage return (=return the 'cursor', the blinking line, in the beginning of the line) and line feed (=create a new line, and move the cursor to it)
I had a text file with separate characters CR and LF. I set the font so that I could see them. When I placed them next to each other, they were replaced by a newline.
Older Nokias used to kind of drop (I guess) the character count from 140 to sixty-something if you used diacritics in text message. That means that languages, which rely on them, get less space in a text message. And that lead to omitting them for the sake of saving money.
Tom predicted 2018 world cup in 2014
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🇨🇦!
+denelson83 +Chrman6710 I SEE SMALL LETTERS!
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+TheLMGN I see blue bold letters.
🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Love these videos, and I'm not surprised they're your main ones. Will you do any more linguistics ones, though?
I was watching the rt podcast the other day where gavin talks about this. now, completely randomly i find this video. i only heard about it having 2 characters in that podcast
Why did you add the blue and red to the French flag?