Devilbiss DV1 Clear 1.3

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  • Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025

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  • @ianholmen888
    @ianholmen888 5 лет назад +6

    I have never seen a paint that looked that good in real life.

  • @MidnightAutoPainter
    @MidnightAutoPainter 5 лет назад +10

    Nice job Gabriel. Too many reviewers of this gun give this gun a poor review because they do not understand concept of HVLP and do not set up thier gun properly. The whole idea of HVLP is transfer efficiency. (Less overspray going into the filters) Thats why these guns work best at very low pressures. Higher VOLUME of air with a lower PRESSURE of air. That is....to atomize the paint with MORE air (bigger air chambers) rather than faster, higher pressures of air. Too many do not understand this concept and try to treat or set up their gun like an RP. This is why we use 3/8 high flow air fittings. The best way to use an hvlp is to set to full open and adjust at the wall. The reason for this is when you adjust at the gun is has the same effect as when you put your thumb over the end of a water hose...you increase the velocity and pressure of the water. Remember, you want MORE air not FASTER higher pressure air. People always ask, "What pressure do you set your gun to?" The answer I give is where ever the sweet spot is. It's a range that is entirely dependent of booth conditions, material being sprayed, etc. With this gun I set it anywhere from 16 to 20 psi on the digital guage depending on those factors.

  • @HPAcustomriflesandcerakote
    @HPAcustomriflesandcerakote Год назад +1

    I love the dv1 clear gun so much i sold all my walcoms and got the 3 dv1 guns and a flg primer gun

  • @David_Creyke
    @David_Creyke 4 года назад +3

    I’ve had these base/clear guns for like a month now. I love them. Make life easier. They’re actually a little lighter than a GTI but they are weighted different, they feel great but I’m taller lol.

  • @moparnut6286
    @moparnut6286 5 лет назад +4

    Between you and the gunman........I really want one of these guns......great video.........thank you

  • @TTRVision
    @TTRVision 4 года назад

    your finish is top quality because your first layer of clear is full wet thus it makes the perfect foundation for the second final one. top job! a real pro!

  • @tvtafga4504
    @tvtafga4504 5 лет назад +1

    You are a very teacher of this industry I am from Morocco, following all the videos posted on RUclips

  • @madisonmarlow8848
    @madisonmarlow8848 5 лет назад +3

    Great demo. It turned out great! You should work with a paint gun company to make lighter guns for short people lol. But the tips for orange peel and the spray pattern were perfect! Keep up the amazing work!

  • @MrMelvinkennedy1
    @MrMelvinkennedy1 Год назад +2

    I cant lay down glass, continues to lay down pure glass finish

  • @MrSecyrb13
    @MrSecyrb13 2 года назад +1

    Keep an eye out for the recent PPS liners they are standard on one half of the seal and really thin one the other half. It's been causing drips onto the panels

  • @bodytm
    @bodytm 5 лет назад +7

    Thank you so much.. I wanted that gun wen Devilbiss showed first time, and now after great review from you.. I want it even more 🙈 thank you so much Gabriel!! 🤣😄

  • @trulygifted6301
    @trulygifted6301 5 лет назад +4

    The gun is good, color is pretty, but price point makes me just stick with my Sagola 4600 extreme as its lays clear just like a beast. I think the 22 psi is calibrated and different from inlet pressure, but i could be wrong. Glad to see you back Gabe!

    • @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS  5 лет назад +2

      Boom! Whatever works for you is the best period!

    • @mescalp
      @mescalp 4 года назад +2

      yeah its tempting to go on PMP supplies but how many clear guns do we need.. Sagola 4600 is a beast

    • @David_Creyke
      @David_Creyke 4 года назад

      You’re right the digital reads a little lower as it’s meant to read pressure at the tip of the gun. I would try the Sagola but they aren’t very well supported here in America. Prefer to get my guns from our vender they get a better rate than just going on eBay or one of the online sellers.

    • @trulygifted6301
      @trulygifted6301 4 года назад +2

      David Creyke Refinishing if you want Sagola, They have support here in US, Len at autobodystore (dot) com. PMP supplies has really good deal on Sagola 4600, use “Sagolasale” as coupon cose

  • @speedokoterefinishnetwork4937
    @speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 5 лет назад +2

    Amazing finish

  • @ferenkmendez2083
    @ferenkmendez2083 5 лет назад +3

    Another class for me Gabriel..!! God bless you bro.

  • @lafmon5785
    @lafmon5785 5 лет назад +12

    Gabe I bet you can slick a job out with a harbor freight gun lol, you make the gun look good. It's the operator not the gun with you Consistency is key. Keep up the great work and great vids

    • @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS  5 лет назад +1

      Hahaha thanks so so much 🥰🥰

    • @yurygerasimov5840
      @yurygerasimov5840 5 лет назад

      Harbor freight came out with Sata 5500 clone

    • @splash5974
      @splash5974 5 лет назад

      We dont have Harbour Freights in Canada.
      But we do have Princess Auto
      Lol

  • @cristianrojas1931
    @cristianrojas1931 3 месяца назад

    How much is one of those guns in the USA?

  • @lloydkratka3733
    @lloydkratka3733 3 года назад

    Just bought mine, should be here in a few days

  • @frankiej.5581
    @frankiej.5581 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you Gabe for the review I am going to pick between the sagola or the dv1 thanks.......

    • @megaman4201
      @megaman4201 4 года назад +1

      Which one did you choose?!
      Looking at the DV1...
      TC
      Annapolis MD

    • @frankiej.5581
      @frankiej.5581 4 года назад

      I chose the sagola with the 1.4 tip the reason being is sagola has a wider fan pattern....

  • @kamildarek3425
    @kamildarek3425 5 лет назад +1

    nice nice nice😀 good job Gabe

  • @masbropainting819
    @masbropainting819 5 лет назад +1

    Nice good job my friend.. 🙏🙏💪💪👍👍👍💟💟💟

  • @rodneythomas6517
    @rodneythomas6517 5 лет назад +2

    Nice job brother!!!

  • @asicerik
    @asicerik 5 лет назад +1

    Looks really nice Gabe!

  • @PhillipHall01
    @PhillipHall01 3 года назад

    Wonder why you are not a fan of the DV1 base coat? Thanks

  • @audia4addict950
    @audia4addict950 2 года назад

    Nice job 👍

  • @brandonproctor9028
    @brandonproctor9028 5 лет назад +2

    Great video brother!! I spray for gerber collision in Detroit Michigan we use the iwata ws400-01 clear guns and iwata base guns as well. I may take a job offer at a local dealer here and I’m considering on buying new clear and base guns, gerber supplies us with the iwata and I love them. But I’m short as well same height so I’m nervous about that! My paint rep is saying this gun is amazing, what’s your favorite clear gun out?! I got abunch of sata 4000s but I want a new set up!

    • @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS  5 лет назад

      I am bias because I sell them. But but but I sell them because they have been so amazing for me in a production shop! Walcom hte base and clear. 1.3 both on my website thats how much I like them! www.motivatedpainters.com

  • @komoru
    @komoru 3 года назад

    Can you do an updated review on this gun after you've been using it for over a year?

  • @lazz8827
    @lazz8827 2 года назад

    Just got the dv1 clear gun and was wondering could u spray base coat with this gun?

  • @ARIASPHIL123
    @ARIASPHIL123 2 года назад

    Where are you Gabriel.

  • @satamanschmidt3428
    @satamanschmidt3428 5 лет назад +4

    Gabe, the pressure on the internal gauge is actually significantly lower than the true pressure at the bottom of the gun. 22 PSIG on the internal gauge is about 29 PSIG at the bottom of the gun. This fact is even spelled on in the DeVilbiss manual that comes with the gun.

    • @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS  5 лет назад

      Great!! Make sense then !

    • @PhillipHall01
      @PhillipHall01 3 года назад

      SATAMAN Schmidt I have read your comments before and I have respect for what you say. I have a question for you. In your opinion will a brand new Sata 4000b rp still in the box spray clear as nice as this DV1 clear gun shown in this video? I bought one several years ago and was in an accident and now am ready to use it on a restoration vehicle. I have much to learn though I have done much studying. Thanks, Phillip Hall

    • @satamanschmidt3428
      @satamanschmidt3428 3 года назад

      @@PhillipHall01 No, but it really doesn't matter. SATA made, in my opinion, two dog guns the 3000 and the 4000. They got their shit back together with the 5000. If you're doing a restoration the truth of the matter is that a super quality spray gun is unimportant as you're going to cut and buff it anyway. The 4000 will certainly do that job well enough so that after cut and buff nobody will be able to tell what gun you used. For professional painters it matters more as they are trying to avoid cut and buff at all cost. On the car and out the door is what's needed to make money. To a pro the ability to match factory peel or lay it down like glass if that's what's needed matters. To somebody doing a restoration anything better than the $12 Harbor Freight gun will normally get the job done. Everybody concerns themselves with the clear which is the less important of the two phases as the clear can always be fixed with sandpaper and compound. The base is where the money shot really is if it's a metallic. The 4000 is more than sufficient to get both halves of your project, base and clear, done.

    • @PhillipHall01
      @PhillipHall01 3 года назад

      @@satamanschmidt3428
      Thank you very much!!! You have also answered all my concerns about this gun, including base and metallic! Blessings to you!
      Phillip Hall

  • @alliho2243
    @alliho2243 5 лет назад +1

    Hey brother, where you've been? Running out of things to watch here. Looking forward for some new videos.

    • @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS  5 лет назад +1

      Hahaha thanks man!!! Got one coming up! Should be interesting!

  • @eksine
    @eksine 5 лет назад +2

    you and the gunman released this video about the exact same gun on the exact same day!

  • @rockyyz9591
    @rockyyz9591 3 месяца назад

    thank you primo

  • @royrodriguez7352
    @royrodriguez7352 18 дней назад

    What cap c1 or c2

  • @josemora3352
    @josemora3352 5 лет назад +2

    Uste es un pintor chingon Gabriel 👊

  • @walterwalters3069
    @walterwalters3069 5 лет назад +4

    Hey Gabe between Iwata Ws400 and this one what is your choice?

    • @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS  5 лет назад +1

      Walcom hte clear 😂😂 but from those 2 ws400

    • @elinaostapenko4396
      @elinaostapenko4396 5 лет назад

      I thought you would say Sagola clear but looks like your like now this Walcom better @@MOTIVATEDPAINTERS

  • @chuckstewart8927
    @chuckstewart8927 5 лет назад

    As always....another good video. .....also you do good work.....enjoy

  • @charlesstevenson1352
    @charlesstevenson1352 4 года назад +1

    Yo Gabe!!! What’s the best gun to use for painting industrial trucks with single stage. Keep in mind these are not show trucks so they don’t need to be flawless. I’m just looking for something that shoots single stage nice and heavy? Thanks for all your help.

    • @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS  4 года назад

      I would get a ws400 80psi at the wall and regulated at the gun 30

  • @jonathanbuchan6224
    @jonathanbuchan6224 5 лет назад +1

    Hey Gabe, I don't know about the weight thing. I weighed the demo gun I got and it was almost 100g lighter than my 5000rp and pro lite!

    • @mcats8
      @mcats8 5 лет назад +2

      ? The DV1 weighs 480 grams compared to the Pro-lite at 340. No way the DV1 is lighter

    • @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS  5 лет назад +1

      Compared to my walcom is insane the difference

    • @IratusAngelus621
      @IratusAngelus621 3 года назад

      No way is the dv1 lighter than a pro light or even a gti pro. Does feel solid and well made though and I like that about the dv1

  • @MartinMora92
    @MartinMora92 Год назад

    Is your fluid wide open? And fan?

  • @alfaivre2990
    @alfaivre2990 5 лет назад +1

    Hey Gabriel, I saw on here you said you weren't really into the basecoat version of the DV1 but during your review of it you said you liked it. I was wondering if you used it more and just found some stuff you didn't like about it with more use or you just like your Iwata more.
    I'm looking for a new base gun and I don't know if I want to get a DV1 or a ws/ls 400 Iwata. I'm upgrading from a Satajet 4000.

    • @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS  5 лет назад

      Yeah it was okay for me the cons outweighed the pros. My current favorite gun hands down is the the base Walcom 1.3 which is why I'm proud to sell it and fully stand behind it! I offer money back guarantee because I believe in it so much! Motivatedpainters.com

  • @Jaimerga
    @Jaimerga 5 лет назад +1

    Hi Gabriel, first of all, congratulations on such great videos. Question: which gun do you recommend more, the DV1 Clear or SATA 5500 RP for clear. Thanks and regards.

  • @jimmatzke4974
    @jimmatzke4974 5 лет назад

    Hi Gabe. Good video as always. What percent are you over reducing the 530? No dieback or pop with added solvent? Are you doing the same with 520 and 550?

  • @danraul6258
    @danraul6258 5 лет назад +1

    Hey Gabe, great video like always. I was wondering if there is a big difference between the base and clear version. I have the base one and I really like the way it lays the clear.
    Thanks and wish you great hollydays with loved ones.

    • @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS  5 лет назад

      To be honest I'm not to sure I believe the caps are a bit different.

    • @jeremyoetken2094
      @jeremyoetken2094 4 года назад +1

      The clear gun is faster

    • @PhillipHall01
      @PhillipHall01 3 года назад

      Dan I have heard great things about the base gun used for laying clear. In your opinion, do you think your base DV1 lays clear as nicely as this example of the clear version in this video? Thanks. Phillip Hall

  • @splash5974
    @splash5974 5 лет назад +2

    Man, that finish layed down beautifully!
    Whats the actual weight of the gun compared to lets say the Tekna Prolite?

    • @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS  5 лет назад

      Shoot I don't know! It was a demo

    • @splash5974
      @splash5974 4 года назад

      Took me 6 months because of this darn Covid19, but i finally got the DV1 clear to demo! I didn't get the same luck or results right off the hop like you did, but im gonna stay on it! I was running full fan, full fluid, 24psi with 1.3 tip. Gonna dial the fan in a bit tomorrow and try around 22psi. We spray Glasurit clear at our shop. That EC530 looks like it lays down real nice👌

    • @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS  4 года назад

      When you are ready! I would suggest getting a walcom HTE clear 1.2 you will be in love brother! I sell them on my site and if you don't love it I'll refund the money
      Motivatedpainters.com

    • @PhillipHall01
      @PhillipHall01 3 года назад

      @@MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      Is this the gun? (I found it on your site). Slim Kombat HTE MP Special edition Nero
      Sale price$325.00 Regular price$450.00

  • @rgomez5683
    @rgomez5683 4 года назад +1

    Nice job, can a 1.2 tip work as good to spray basecoat on that same gun ?

  • @B0tinh0
    @B0tinh0 5 лет назад +2

    Now you got me curious...
    What's the weight difference between the iwata or walcom and the devilbiss?
    Good job there mate!

  • @jus1975
    @jus1975 4 года назад

    What's the difference between the dv1 clear coat gun vs the base coat gun. And please don't say one is for base and the other for clear

    • @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS  4 года назад

      I believe the cap holes might be different. I don't own them so I could tell you

  • @neffmunoz7
    @neffmunoz7 5 лет назад +1

    Love your videos bro. Keep it up 👍

  • @fyof5540
    @fyof5540 3 года назад

    Compared to the GTI PROLITE, is the DV1 clear gun’s fan lager?

  • @matthewturkington6538
    @matthewturkington6538 5 лет назад +1

    Cool review 👍

  • @trevinopadayachee8570
    @trevinopadayachee8570 2 года назад

    What clear is that
    Hs or ms and the brand ?

  • @carvenmarsh
    @carvenmarsh 5 лет назад +1

    Gabe can you recommend me a good mid tier/medium budget gun for base coats and one for clears? I've only ever shot with the $16 harbor freight gun and I want a better one that wont break the bank. It would mean a lot!

  • @Tyler.56
    @Tyler.56 5 лет назад +3

    Hey Gabe what pressure do u set your gauge that’s on wall at?

  • @CristianCastro-nx2nu
    @CristianCastro-nx2nu 3 года назад

    Hi, between the Dv1 and the genesi 360 of clear which one do you prefer?

  • @modzillacustoms1559
    @modzillacustoms1559 4 года назад +1

    Awesome work 👌 how many turns out on fluid did you run

    • @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS  4 года назад

      Usually I turn until it hits my finger on the trigger

  • @gtogus712
    @gtogus712 2 года назад

    What do you think about that blue prolite you have there compared to the DV1? For clear

  • @reyjr3608
    @reyjr3608 2 года назад

    Amazing..Im planning to have one..what do u recommend on cap? C1 or C2? Fluid tips?

    • @SkrillMillMusic
      @SkrillMillMusic 2 года назад +2

      i just got one like a month ago, i mostly use the c2 cap as i find it covers better, but the c1 cap is supposed to be slower but get a more smooth finish, i would recommend 1.3 as a nice all rounder,
      if you spray really thin clear i would recommend 1.2 (based on what i use)
      and if you spray very thick clear i would go for 1.4,
      1.3 or 1.4 for acrylic 2k gloss paint or non sanding primers,
      so if you are handy with the fluid knob go for 1.4 and adjust acordingly :)

  • @krischarest8469
    @krischarest8469 5 лет назад +1

    Great video!

  • @stevemaccumber6698
    @stevemaccumber6698 5 лет назад +1

    I picked up one of these guns last week and I am loving it. I don't mind the extra little bit of weight

  • @TheXavier1313
    @TheXavier1313 5 лет назад +1

    Yo man can i ask you something what gun do you use for your blender and sealer? thanks alot man this is my 2nd year painting

    • @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS  5 лет назад

      Blender I use spray can from spray max called 1k blender and sealer I use ws400 1.3

  • @David_Creyke
    @David_Creyke 4 года назад +1

    I wonder if you’re currently running a Tekna Clear is it worth the upgrade. It looks the business 👀

    • @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS  4 года назад +1

      I would say if what you got now works then keep it. But if you are ready to update then do it

    • @David_Creyke
      @David_Creyke 4 года назад +1

      Gabriel Merino thank you sir 🤛

  • @chrisyoung5275
    @chrisyoung5275 4 года назад

    Want one of these real bad!

  • @NuKe11Killer
    @NuKe11Killer 4 года назад

    What settings did you use during this video

  • @beledugjatiBJM
    @beledugjatiBJM 5 лет назад +1

    love your video bro👍👍👍

  • @TheXavier1313
    @TheXavier1313 5 лет назад

    Thats the clear gun that im getting next it looks great

  • @FernandoDIY
    @FernandoDIY 5 лет назад

    what clear did you use MS ,HS ? mix 4:1,3:1,2:1??? any thinners used??? come on more information please

    • @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS  5 лет назад

      Ppg ec530 clear Google it 🤗 it will be alot more useful than me

  • @karlitosortega6430
    @karlitosortega6430 5 лет назад

    Recomiendas aplicar transparente con boquillas hvlp, a cuantas psi tiraste el trasparente???

    • @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS  5 лет назад

      Como dije en el vídeo ... 22 jaja

    • @karlitosortega6430
      @karlitosortega6430 5 лет назад

      @@MOTIVATEDPAINTERSjajajajaja me perdí esa parte cuando harás tu canal en español o por lo menos algunos videos saludos!!!

  • @radjadji
    @radjadji 5 лет назад +1

    When a job looks that good, do you still polish it?

  • @moevidas9939
    @moevidas9939 4 года назад +3

    Saludos bro! Hey what was your settings on the gun

  • @dinotom1
    @dinotom1 5 лет назад +1

    What clear are you using with this gun?

  • @mornejack5799
    @mornejack5799 5 лет назад +2

    Smart bru

  • @downfromthecount3187
    @downfromthecount3187 5 лет назад +1

    How long do you wait till you bake it?

  • @rgomez5683
    @rgomez5683 4 года назад +1

    Did you use 1.3 or 1.4 tip?

  • @piratauto7123
    @piratauto7123 5 лет назад

    Сколько по цене , такой аппарат???

  • @mescalp
    @mescalp 4 года назад +1

    i need a demo DV1 clear coat gun so I don't have to buy anymore

  • @JHari-qj4lv
    @JHari-qj4lv 5 лет назад +4

    Ws400. Lays. GLASS ,and is faster..
    Thats true, since many years ago..

  • @branislav9017
    @branislav9017 2 года назад

    Helo Gab, Dv1, Sata 5500 Rp or Sagola 4600 for clear?

  • @samsbogh9361
    @samsbogh9361 5 лет назад +1

    How much did you pay for that beauty Gabriel? Another excellent video✌

    • @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS  5 лет назад +1

      This was a demo! It's gone now haha I think they are 700

    • @MrSecyrb13
      @MrSecyrb13 5 лет назад +1

      They are 700 through my jobber

    • @iEvocate
      @iEvocate 5 лет назад +1

      I got mine for $500 something US for spraygunsdirect a month or so ago. That was for the non-digital version and without the plastic cup

    • @samsbogh9361
      @samsbogh9361 5 лет назад

      @@MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      Wow hat's a lot money boss

  • @radudanielman
    @radudanielman 3 года назад

    👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @rybsonb3874
    @rybsonb3874 5 лет назад

    Can you compare Dv1 to Gti Pro Lite T110??

    • @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS  5 лет назад

      I would say this is finer spray

    • @jeffeaton5221
      @jeffeaton5221 5 лет назад

      @@MOTIVATEDPAINTERS Even with a 1.2 tip & T110?

    • @SergeiArkadjevich
      @SergeiArkadjevich 4 года назад

      Yeah .I would like to know that too
      And what aircap equivalent to gti pro lite?
      What else they could do to it to make it better
      Probably just put two more holes in the aircap to make it look different. And they changed exterior. But it still the same gti pro ? don't you think so?

  • @Ldavidable
    @Ldavidable 5 лет назад

    Walcom or DV1???

  • @pinturaautomotivojairo4932
    @pinturaautomotivojairo4932 4 года назад +1

    Show, Brasil

  • @vehiclesprayerssociety
    @vehiclesprayerssociety 3 года назад

    😍😍😍😍😍

  • @lewismartin9980
    @lewismartin9980 5 лет назад +1

    Need to see you paint a car in a home garage every body doesn't have a paint booth to paint in.Thks

  • @dhaley8847
    @dhaley8847 4 года назад +1

    you said no I dont get guns for free then said I do get guns for free! So.. you do get some guns for free! like most of us think

    • @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS
      @MOTIVATEDPAINTERS  4 года назад

      I got no guns for free back then now I pay for them by making videos so no they are never free. Free died long time ago 🤪

  • @adelegentili5318
    @adelegentili5318 3 года назад

    🤩🤩👍🤙🤙🤙

  • @canadianpainter8344
    @canadianpainter8344 5 лет назад +1

    Hi Gabe. Can you please tell me the setup on that gun, the fan, fluid, pressure at gun .
    Thanks,
    Vinny

  • @splash5974
    @splash5974 5 лет назад

    12 Iwata fans disliked this video...
    Not nice!!😂🤣

  • @meanpaintandbody
    @meanpaintandbody 3 года назад

    What psi did u use? I seen paint society sprayed like at 20 psi and it did not look good

    • @roofhy4133
      @roofhy4133 3 года назад +1

      He says and shows in the video, 22psi. And i watched that video also and if u notice their spray techniques were different. The paint society video, he wasnt as close to panel and was moving a lot faster, where as gabriel was closer to panel and was tad bit slower hammering the clear on!