All of this waiting for the next leg up reminds me of 2021 and just to be clear, the next leg up never came. We got Terra Luna instead, followed by FTX.
This is why I think you are early on your prediction for the top 2016/17 U state one year post halving it was at $2600… It topped out at almost $20,000 about six months after that! Every cycle the top has almost always come approximately 18 months -in the autumn after a halving
I haven't heard any crypto commentator who was not bullish. Who is not super bullish. Who was not over the top bush. And of course, if you can convince more people to buy Bitcoin now, that will be better for you too
I think Bitcoin will reach somewhere between 120000$ in the worst case and 180000$ in the best case depending on economy and politics (presidential elections in the USA !) . End of the Bullrun ofcourse !
About 5:04 Quadratic interpolation y = ax^2 + bx + c between the 1st, 2nd and 3rd ratio ( 2.8, 3.93, 6.74) tells us that the 4th upcoming ratio is approximately 11.23, that multiplied by 63,870 would be 717,260$. Unrealistic, at least in the next upcoming leg up. Even bc the calculation does not take diminishing returns into account.
Estimates by those who know are that 3.7 million bitcoins are permanently lost. In my estimations for bitcoin supply I am going with less than 20 million.
I'm learning how to read charts of stocks. Otherwise known as technical analysis. I bet Toby knows how to.do this as well. I believe he is right. There will be a pullback and watch out. The rally will be something else. Probably 100k.
We will see if BR can move the boat (BTC and crypto) where ever they want. Or like the Centralized Exchanges - they will crushed the leveraged longs and then the leveraged shorts! Have yachts? Have nots!
I think we have demonstrated diminished returns in BTC are clearly happening. I also think that a pre halving pump to 74k prior to may turn out to be a negative for BTC and crypto in general. Allot of variables here. The dollar/BTC with inflation could put BTC way higher however the dollar could be worth very little. So maybe the best way to calculate BTC is a Gold/BTC or a PAXG/BTC measurement. Things are and will be different this time. All that matters is what you can buy with the value you have. Great video, thank you
The comparison of what a doctor makes as compared to a member or congress and the "obvious" difference in comfort and lifestyles is rather revealing to say the least. Corruption, greed, drugs, debauchery, and our excessive love of riches is destroying us a civilization. My wife and I have been punching a clock for forty-five years (worked two jobs for twenty-seven) and doing our part as productive citizens by setting good examples and paying our fair share of taxes. With twenty-two months left to retirement, we're looking forward to taking profits and living a simple, secure, and comfortable life. We've earned it! Thanks for the update guys and keep doing what you're doing!
Won't be no rally in October boys girls it's all crap retail won't be back no rate cuts in October and to many wars etc going on sorry and btc is being so manipulated 71k was the high wake up
Yes and he was right .An unexpected event will take the market by surprise .It will be scary but will go back up very quickly just like covid crash but a bit less scary.They are giving back people FTX money so they can have liquidity to sell the local top.That expalin why they give back fiat and not the tokens that got stolen.
bags are packed, plans is in place ... I always do more, accountants ready to go, for 2024, 2025!!! just need to consolidate some old AI tokens. And maybe a few other tokens. Gold looks tasty too!
@@_outofphase5480 I pay taxes bills groceries gas . Trying to save for a down payment but ya know people keep voting democrat and are destroying the middle class American .
btc is correlated to the stock market more than ever at this point, i wonder why the looming recession, in which the stock market will certainly crash, will not have bearing on the price of btc?
100k to 130k maybe... Anyone saying a million dollars or even a half a million dollars this cycle, please let me know what you are smoking/drinking and if it is legal I want some....
What pump ? Where is the money gonna come from ? You think smart people waited for bitcoin o go to 64k and then they want to buy it in billionS ? Cmon.
Goes to talk smack on doctors and congress salary, then slaps you in the face with his satoshi t shirts for $29.99 this guy is a clown 🤡 & yesterday he said massive crash coming, Heidi just talk about BlackRock and vanguard just repeating whatever they read in reddit
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0:50 i dont like politicians but there is no way you can compare these two like this, bad form.
pelosi is 84 years old, if she invested 25K of that money over the last 50 years. she would have 300M.
Hey, did you say we are at the end of the bull run?
All of this waiting for the next leg up reminds me of 2021 and just to be clear, the next leg up never came. We got Terra Luna instead, followed by FTX.
This is why I think you are early on your prediction for the top 2016/17 U state one year post halving it was at $2600… It topped out at almost $20,000 about six months after that! Every cycle the top has almost always come approximately 18 months -in the autumn after a halving
I haven't heard any crypto commentator who was not bullish. Who is not super bullish. Who was not over the top bush. And of course, if you can convince more people to buy Bitcoin now, that will be better for you too
I think 12 from halving we will be around 300k
In two months.For 6 months it’s been in two months.But thanks for posting,I just think you have the only credible source.Have a great life.
Wow, the percentage increase doubled each time, 180,300,550,and this time could be 1000 % ? 700K not too bad !
I think Bitcoin will reach somewhere between 120000$ in the worst case and 180000$ in the best case depending on economy and politics (presidential elections in the USA !) .
End of the Bullrun ofcourse !
Thanks for sharing! I’m currently long on BTC using Nexo.
About 5:04 Quadratic interpolation y = ax^2 + bx + c between the 1st, 2nd and 3rd ratio ( 2.8, 3.93, 6.74) tells us that the 4th upcoming ratio is approximately 11.23, that multiplied by 63,870 would be 717,260$. Unrealistic, at least in the next upcoming leg up. Even bc the calculation does not take diminishing returns into account.
Love you guys.. how do you feel about ordiswap?
2025 - 250K
Estimates by those who know are that 3.7 million bitcoins are permanently lost. In my estimations for bitcoin supply I am going with less than 20 million.
Love your show I think I’m gonna join your club on days off if I ever get one
Toby wya? Lobby/restaurant piqued my interest. Thx for your daily updates being in CTClub gives me confidence 🧡
I'm learning how to read charts of stocks. Otherwise known as technical analysis. I bet Toby knows how to.do this as well. I believe he is right. There will be a pullback and watch out. The rally will be something else. Probably 100k.
What is your rationale for cutting a year off the commodity cycle?
Great show always Mr.T.
👍
Three data points on the having ! That is this ancient trend as as anything.
but is Blackrock manipulaing?
Thanks
4:12 these figure are incorrect. According to them, the 2012 halving + 12 months cycle gave a x2.81 return, although in reality it was a x86 return.
Toby, do you still have BTC from your first year in crypto?! 😊
Blackrock is involved now. BTC will pump when they allow it too and not before.
Exactly...the turd in the punch bowl has arrived.
Uncle "Leisure Suit" Larry is now ... The Decider! Even the GigaChad trembles before the might of the Larry of Blackrock! 😎😱
We will see if BR can move the boat (BTC and crypto) where ever they want.
Or like the Centralized Exchanges - they will crushed the leveraged longs and then the leveraged shorts!
Have yachts?
Have nots!
I think we have demonstrated diminished returns in BTC are clearly happening. I also think that a pre halving pump to 74k prior to may turn out to be a negative for BTC and crypto in general. Allot of variables here. The dollar/BTC with inflation could put BTC way higher however the dollar could be worth very little. So maybe the best way to calculate BTC is a Gold/BTC or a PAXG/BTC measurement. Things are and will be different this time. All that matters is what you can buy with the value you have. Great video, thank you
Take your money and run as fast as you can
My charts suggest a top for bitcoin of $150k, more or less
That would be the lowest gaining bull cycle.
rather $650k
LMAO your chart is a joke the next top is 420k Nov 25th 2025 screenshot this
@@Solar33s Ah, a lot of confidence. Usually not a good thing when analyzing price action. We'll see. I hope you're right.
@@J10044 I am a time traveler bro this is not speculative
The comparison of what a doctor makes as compared to a member or congress and the "obvious" difference in comfort and lifestyles is rather revealing to say the least. Corruption, greed, drugs, debauchery, and our excessive love of riches is destroying us a civilization. My wife and I have been punching a clock for forty-five years (worked two jobs for twenty-seven) and doing our part as productive citizens by setting good examples and paying our fair share of taxes. With twenty-two months left to retirement, we're looking forward to taking profits and living a simple, secure, and comfortable life. We've earned it! Thanks for the update guys and keep doing what you're doing!
A simple life is a good life, wish you both the best 👍
12 months later btc at $180k
you have good and bad news from Bitcoin:
Bad: It depends on governments doing the stupid thing
Good: Governments will always do the stupid thing
Won't be no rally in October boys girls it's all crap retail won't be back no rate cuts in October and to many wars etc going on sorry and btc is being so manipulated 71k was the high wake up
Charlie stole the handle and the train won't slow down
🤙
About damn time! Such a abnormalities like this year isn't tolerable any longer. BTC must be AT LEAST $250k.
One week ago, you told about a big BTC crash... decide!!!!
Uh oh someone sold the bottom...
Yes and he was right .An unexpected event will take the market by surprise .It will be scary but will go back up very quickly just like covid crash but a bit less scary.They are giving back people FTX money so they can have liquidity to sell the local top.That expalin why they give back fiat and not the tokens that got stolen.
This guy is all over the place
It might go up but it also might go down 😂😊
@@Bitcoinistheshit you forgot : it might stay stable 😅
If you go by previous cycles then bitcoin will be 350k by 12 months after 2024 halving. 🚀
Where is the money coming from? pumping BTC at 1000$ is not the same as pumping it at 70k.
Belgrade and Tbilisi are interesting to move to, but they are not gay friendly and that is a big turn off
It’s a big turn off if you are a gay but for us hetero people is “ready, steady! Go!” 😂
bags are packed,
plans is in place ... I always do more,
accountants ready to go, for 2024, 2025!!!
just need to consolidate some old AI tokens.
And maybe a few other tokens.
Gold looks tasty too!
I've been stacking more gold to diversify and I'm extremely happy. Praying BTC will go to at least $120k this bull cycle.
Love the reno's you guys did on your house!
Bullish for sure but wouldn't expect gains to be similar to previous ratios since we're Starting at 60k from here.
225 000$ 2025
5:11 if its lower what will that mean?
USA is an oligarchy as is my country the UK. A handful of ppl behind the scenes run the lot 😝
bankers and the owners of those banks, run the show. The BoE, ECB, BoJ, The _Fed_ and beyond!
3x, 5x, 7x, 9x?
You and. Heidi are the “heartbeat” of Bitcoin and economy! And the “”beat goes on”, (Sonny and Cher, many years ago)!🙄☕️
Yeah, let’s listen to you pump pump pump pump so I could sell
Not just pelosi brother,named them all as well as Republican or you dont know
Do you think there'll be another dip in BTC before the surge?
I make 170k and I'm homeless
@@_outofphase5480 I pay taxes bills groceries gas . Trying to save for a down payment but ya know people keep voting democrat and are destroying the middle class American .
btc is correlated to the stock market more than ever at this point, i wonder why the looming recession, in which the stock market will certainly crash, will not have bearing on the price of btc?
Hi😊thank you both for the update ❤🎉😊 let's go 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
Your taste in furniture has become surprisingly classical I must say.
Rather fancy, I say.
Hi, CT! Thanks for being original.
Hmm usually when most youtubers cry pump we must sell. And when they are doom and gloom we must buy.
You mean dump 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Keep *politics out of your musing, please.*
Yes,agreed
Yipeee, more hopium!
not actual.... Toby and Heidi are fairly frugal and realistic - dare I say _conservative,_ with their crypto investments and advice.
100k to 130k maybe... Anyone saying a million dollars or even a half a million dollars this cycle, please let me know what you are smoking/drinking and if it is legal I want some....
😂😂😂
'planB' tea 😂
Ethereum is the way to escape this inflationary runaway train.
So we should all become politicians l.
Remember, they only become politicians for the good of the people ....not for themselves......lol
It will surely continue to go up, but maybe not anywhere near the moon. Too many cream skimmers preventing too much of a rise.
What pump ? Where is the money gonna come from ? You think smart people waited for bitcoin o go to 64k and then they want to buy it in billionS ? Cmon.
yikes,, what kind of bull run is this?
Wash rinse repeat you all chew the same old cud, should could etc....silence..
Vote Trump for crypto!
Goes to talk smack on doctors and congress salary, then slaps you in the face with his satoshi t shirts for $29.99 this guy is a clown 🤡 & yesterday he said massive crash coming, Heidi just talk about BlackRock and vanguard just repeating whatever they read in reddit
Cheater ...
A very real perspective.🫡🤪lol....crash/pullback,the market doesn't move in a straight line.