MIDDLE of a DOWNSWING....| Poker Vlog Episode 43
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- Опубликовано: 9 апр 2024
- Hi Everyone,
We are at Bellagio and the Wynn battling through a downswing at the $1/3 tables. I hope you enjoy the hands. The sad tone is a bit of a joke but downswings are so hard so I feel for anyone going through it.
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How do you fold that last hand? You’re gonna be good in that spot 99% of the time my guy, don’t be a nit and call him down.
Downswings have a way of effecting you mentally. You start to see monsters everywhere and become convinced that they always have it. Folding that hand is a byproduct of going through a prolonged period of losing when you make big calls on the river.
Right you lose to one card 😢
extactly, there's no way folding basically nuts on that board, mega nit move
@@panicpokerit was a bit of a shocking fold but I also understand the state of mind that lead to it. When you run bad for a long time you just expect to see the nuts
@@nicholi2789 100%
Playing poker eating casino food and siting for hours a day none of us poker players get whole lot of exercise. I have had the opportunity to see a few more of your videos. Like I said you play great you realize your own mistakes which sometimes can be hard for us to see or admit ourselves. Glad your finally on the up swing again and do look forward to watching more of your videos in the future. Best of luck to you. Glad you like the separate account it really does help seriously plus you know what you have at all times and cool thing is seeing that account grow from your winnings. Jay from Tennessee 😎
You’re doing a good thing in always reviewing your decision making after the fact.
Just be careful about being too hard on yourself. Remember in game you didn’t have all the information. Sure you could have thought a little longer in some spots but that’s so easy to say after the fact.
You’re definitely growing and improving as a player. Continue to focus on improving and ride it out my man!
Maybe I’ll see you at Bellagio or Wynn Sunday or Monday!
I feel your pain. But you said it on the rob and omc hands, you knew the right thing to do. First with 88 I think it’s fine to call him and not three bet. But really almost just set mine with it. Then you can make an easy fold on his flop bet. You never see the quads and don’t lose much at all. Then the OMC it was clear when he gets aggressive and three bets that you are done. Even with top set. I think you just made some plays without thinking them through and you know the mistakes you made. Just get back to playing solid. Enjoying your vlog.
I love your self analysis....very hard to do at times.
Time will eventually turn around for you, just keep your head up and be positive 🤙
First hands were bad calls, last hands were bad folds
That sums it up pretty well
Just found your channel. I like it. I like that you're honest without yourself. You don't just say, "Oh well, bad beat"
Love the thought process of ranges etc.
Thank you 🙏
For every losing session, there's a sun run on the other side. Keep it up :)
I'm looking forward to that sun run!
I've done it without the nuts and with. In a recent tournament, I did it when I had the right size stack for the re-raise to be all-in. I got called and more then doubled up. After we were in the money, there were two limps and a raise and I was on the button with AQs and the right size stack to go all-in. The UTG limper went all in and I knew I was screwed but all my chips were in the middle LOL.
Good recording quality. What do you use for recording at the table?
Believe it or not, it’s recorded on my iPhone14. Does a decent enough job although sometimes it struggles either the focus. Other than that, it works great.
AQo @16:09.. closer to a fold than a 3-bet. That being said, a 3-bet to $60 is preferable than a call. Question you have to ask yourself, how are you going to get stacks in when you just call. Do you even want stacks in if the board is Q-high (or A-high) and your SPR is 8-10.
Congrats on hitting gin flop though.
Postflop it's hard to assign what MP is betting with, he could have AQ, KK, JJ, TT (or JTs/KJs/KTs), but he could also have dumb hands like AK/KQ/QJ/QT. LP's range is.. wide too, can be AJ/AK/AT, KQ/QJ/QT, JT/KJ/KT.. along with possibly Q9/AQ.
Honestly hard to say if we should even raise since we shouldn't be raising 2 pair.. Hard to think that we should be raising TT/JJ here. Maybe we turn QQ hand here into a bluff but that seems a bit spewy. Raising here signals "we have a straight" a lot of times. Also note that there is 12 combinations of AQo and 12 combinations of TT+JJ..
Raise size is quite big too. Prob $100ish is best if we were to raise. TT/JJ/KK is going to continue anyways and if we get loose calls from AT/AJ/AK/ AA, that's great, along with KJ/JT/KT that have low equity..
That's why I prefer calling flop, yeah sometimes you do get hosed on turn cards but 28 cards are blanks on the turn (roughly 60% of the deck) not to mention a 9 which now increases the times the turn is fine for you to 68% of the time and you get to stack someone who has Qx.
I think I saw you play at resorts world last weekend. Upswing is coming! Hope to play with you one of these days
I was at Resorts World on Friday so you you probably did see me. Stop by and say hi if you see me at the tables! See if you can get a seat and win some $$$ off me lol.
Checking back that top pair on the flop was a poor decision
Betting that flop with 88 @15:30. Yeah SB/BB could have 9x, 66/44/64 and maybe sometime CO checks with 9x+ but those checks from CO is rare at 1/3 (for good reason). Your hand also needs a ton of protection. $25 bet should be good. Turn is an auto bet. Not only do we have best hand 99/100 times, we get value from 4x/6x and we can value river when a blank falls (non spade) to get thin value from non-believer hands.
Also, betting turn (and flop) leads to just bigger pots when we do spike gin on river. Hard to get $500 in when pot is $60. even if villian has 75/T7, they are more than likely either going to mix call/fold on river when we jam their c/r their straight to 115$. Whereas if we even bet on turn for $25 and 75 call (or T7ss) we go $100 on river.. hard for them to just call when they made their straight. And even if they do (like 10-20%) of the time, we have still won more ($125), than if we slowplayed and then they folded to our c/r jam on river ($115).
The limp raise works in a few scenarios
If your table is crazy action and people are on tilt calling everything pre flop it will work.
One time at hustler casino playing 1-3 I limp raised AA to $85 and got 5 callers lol
I don't doubt it. I just like to make fun of it because it's been around for so long and everyone has seen it and....it's almost always AA like you had🤣
On my table a guy had AA n went all in pre for $300. Then 3 ppl went all in pre. Lmao. the guy didnt like it. Sadly AA didnt hold lol
🤣 of course you have QUADS! 🤣
Keep grinding bro! Let me know when you do a Southpoint session
I will let you know. I plan on getting back there again this summer.
KK hand @10:11 check is okay, bet small (25%) is a fine option too. Theory being bet small is you bet small with all your bluffs here (JT of hearts) while you also bet your value hands (KK, AK no club, 99, KQs)..
After opponent bets 50%, you want to call here with your entire continue range (flushes, sets, pairs with club draws, Ace high that contain a club, AK hands).
After the raise and you get 3-bet, turn is fine. River is slam dunk fold. Also even if opponent jammed on turn, in theory land, we are supposed to fold as well.
OOP I mix between checking and betting small on the flop.Check/Call the flop is the better line. I should be treading VERY lightly after getting 3bet on the flop. Check/call turn and check/fold non-board pairing rivers.
@@panicpokerhow is the pot 325 going to the turn? Shouldn’t it be 275? Something’s off.
Whether it’s 275 or 325, a 100 dollar bet is not large, it’s less than half pot and less than what he 3 bet on the flop??
88 at 7:48 wouldn't say not 3-betting is a mistake (although he is opening this wide, J9o, then yeah 3-bet away), but river is definitely a fold (even though solver mixes in a call/fold with boats lower than Tx here, live.. people don't bluff here at the ratio they should, esp at 1/3). Flop and turn is fine.
Honestly unsure of that aces hand. Seems like a check on turn as well.
Unsure what our bet range is on flop if we even have one. Also even if we have a King, (AK/KQ/KJ), we would have board covered and it would be near impossible to get stacks in by river.
If we had quads on flop of like 777, it's easier to get stacks in if board runs out with high(er) cards since full houses should be wanting to put piles in (i.e. if board is 777J4, Jacks full should be wanting to get stacks in)
Do you think it’s an easy call when villain raises River a little over 4x?
I never limp raise but did see a kid balance it with A5s and take down a nice pot
You are betting your big hands too strong, which forces your opponent to make the right decision. AQ with broadway, let them put money in. Trip A’s with K kicker. Bet small and make it easier for opponents to call, you have two streets to get the money in. Last hand is a snap call
Hilarious you make fun of the limp raise when it worked to perfection. It still works well at my card room but mine is def softer than most.
I will always make fun of the limp raise 😆 also it didn’t work to perfection if he had a value hand. If it was a bluff then kudos 👍🏻
@tadontplay0 U call taking down a small pot pf with EP limp reraised AA or KK as the limp reraise working to perfection? Lol. When it used to work correctly a long time ago, the EP limp reraise would get a call pf because people didnt believe the limp reraiser. The limp reraiser would take down a nice pot postflop. THAT is how it used to work to perfection. Nowadays everyone knows it is AA or KK and everyone folds, costing the limp reraiser postflop value. A later variation was EP limp reraising AK, but same lost value result postflop. Not to mention the many times when no one acting after EP raises, to be able to limp reraise them, then u feel like dummy because u dont know where u stand facing good action postflop with AA or KK in a limped pot. The limp reraise is really outdated.
I will still limp raise, here's why: at 1/3 only. Limping induces lots of pot money, so when you do limp raise, everyone folds assuming you have the nuts. do it with mediocre hands, take down easy money.
I’m going to start offering players money IF they can show a bluff when they limp/raise. I bet I don’t get anyone who takes me up on the offer.
@@panicpoker I will be back out in a few months, will let you know when so you can pay me! lol
Also I hate the limp re raise move so much. However I see people fall for it all the time. More often than not.
I think everyone mostly hates it when it's done in game but I know it can be effective. It just always blows my mind when it actually works because all I'm thinking is "They have AA or KK" and sure enough they show down AA or KK. Never fails.
@@panicpokerI say the same thing every time I see it.
I also automatically think they’re a fish when they pull that shit.
Just like stacking chips in stacks of 10 gets you labeled as a fish by me lol
It seems like more of a tilt than a downswing. Try shifting your focus to the gameplay rather than fixating on the results. If you find yourself tilting because of extended play sessions, consider cutting down on the hours (I've noticed I play my best in the first 2-3 hours). If you're tilting because of bad beats when you're a 98% favorite, take a break and go for a walk. Remember, it's all part of poker, and everyone experiences coolers. Many skilled players struggle due to poor tilt management. Consider reading up on the mind game of poker, and best of luck at the tables!
Thanks! Appreciate the feedback!!
On another note, great video! Hope the viewers see the lesson… a downswing is a great, if not the best, place to up your game. Put the emotions aside and look at the details, find the leaks and break the pattern!
That is the takeaway from this episode. You paid attention;)
"HOPE" is the enemy of profits.
This sounds like a quote from the movie Wall Street or something...lol
I gotta say tough, I don’t feel as bad now. For some reason I thought you said you had 66, and flopped the FH
HA! I did say that. Partly because I was embarrassed and partly because I wanted you to see the hand on the vlog!
Folding KJs (@2:45) seems like a mistake.
Board: 5c 4c 3s Js 7h
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 66.972% 64.22% 02.75% 70 3.00 { 77-33, AJs, AcTc, AsTs, Ac9c, As9s, Ac7c, A6s, KcQc, KsQs, KJs, KcTc, KsTs, Kc9c, Ks9s, Kc8c, Ks8s, Kc7c, Kc6c, QJs, QcTc, QsTs, Qc9c, Qs9s, Qc8c, Qs8s, Qc7c, Qs7s, Qc6c, Qs6s, Jc9c, Jc8c, Tc9c, Ts9s, Tc8c, Ts8s, 9c8c, 9s8s, 9c7c, 86s, 76s, 65s, 54s, AJo, KJo, 76o, 65o, 54o }
Hand 1: 33.028% 30.28% 02.75% 33 3.00 { KdJd }
That was definitely exploitable poker.
Honestly, if youre not calling a raise with AA, you should be in check call mode. The way you played the hand made it obvious you didnt have a K. He couldve been bluffing or overvaluing a q.
100% he could have been raising for value with the worst hand. I just couldn't bring myself to call because in my mind "They Always Have It" check/call would have been a much better line based on my mental state.
Dude u played bad in many spots. N i would have called the raise with AA. Gl.
Are you getting enough sleep because in this video you can tell your off your game. But as before you already know your mistakes your making as well. Plus still seeing that tell of you showing when your going to call when flipping chip in your hand. Not sure if this video comes before or after the one I watched before but that tell tell still there. But don't feel bad we all have went on downward swings and zoned out calls. Something else has our attention or on our mind or like me it always came down to not taking time to rest up weather it's sleep or just taking a day off poker to get the mind right again. I played poker for a living 25 years ago did pretty well made about 75 grand a year back then but was always in the poker room 12 to 15 hours a day back before you could even have volgs much less take pictures in casino hit a bad beat and wouldn't even let me take a picture with my flip phone lol back in 2000. But for three years I was in the casino every day missed a lot out on my kids growing up at time needed there dad as in early to middle teens. Learned the hard way to limit my time in casino as well as take time off for kids and family as the grow up fast. Your a good player and smart you see your mistakes as well as when you can improve least my opinion. Only thing I see is that tell you have really rest you have under control. Jay from Tennessee 😎
I hate the limp re-raise move.....
I wish it would go away permanently....no one is falling for that old move these days.
9:15 "I'm done. F,ck this game".
An understandable reaction after messing up your session but certainly not a very nice one either.
As long as you learn from your mistakes it still is a good session even when you burned some money in the proces.
This vlog you played poorly like you stated yourself and that is the time to be angry with yourself because you know you can play so much better.
Better luck next time and hopefully making better decisions.
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No way in hell I'm folding second nuts on that last hand. If he has a king then I'm just going home
Downswings mess with your head. Monsters under the bed is all you see.
Love the vlog, not riffling…distracting and visually nauseated..🤭
Sorry, what is distracting and visually nauseating?
I’m sorry. I had to
You are the nittiest blogger out there
This is not news...lol
But I enjoy your videos bro !
@@javier481 Thanks! 🤟
why you fold AA on that board. u literally losing to only 1 card
The point here is that the downswing is messing with my head. I'm seeing monsters under the bed and folding the second nuts in a spot where if I'm beat I'm beat. I agree, we should never be folding here, but I did. That is the reality and I'm putting it out there for everyone.
It will be a better episode when we see you make some big laydowns...and be wrong. You need to tighten up, err on the conservative side and cut your losses. Not forever. BTW, I'm coming to Vegas at the end of the month for one night and staying on the strip. It sounds like you like the Bellagio -- best option for low stakes?
I think Bellagio is one of the best rooms for low stakes. The max buyin at $1/3 is $300, which isn't as intimidating as Wynn or Aria which is a $500 max buyin.
Thanks. I played at Aria and the MGM my last time in town. I thought the MGM would be pretty soft, but it was a lot of slacker professional grinders that killed the fun.
@@x9200 now that MGM is uncapped, it attracts a lot more grinders. Plus a lot of people grind at MGM just for the promos. Games aren’t that great as a result.
Lmfaoooooo no way u folded kings full of aces. If you hit an ace and had aces full would you still fold? Because its basically the same thing😂
In my current mental state I probably would. When you keep running into it, you start making bad decisions.
@@panicpokerthat’s one of the hands where you have to be okay with losing no matter how bad you down. Maybe you misread at the time 🤔
@@pocketBreaker no, I can tell you when I raised pre and got called by multiple players and the flop came KKK my mind immediately went to “great, one of these players definitely has a K” so when I get raised on the river it confirms my negative thoughts and I folded.
Trust me, I know it’s not optimal, which is why I included it in the episode.
@@panicpokerif he has a king he deserves to be paid off!!
When you flopped the absolute nuts, you have a person betting into you, a caller, and you decide to make a massive bet? The board was rainbow, so what cards are you afraid of at that time? I'm no poker guru, but I'm just calling there. You can always make a bigger bet on the turn, but you chased off all the players that might put more money in the pot.
I'm no poker guru, but it looks like just calling would be the way to make more money.
I agree, this episode is me making bad decisions all over the place, it’s the theme of the episode
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From my perspective, It looks like you're playing with tight or conservative players. Try playing tight and vlogging a tight session. Would be interesting to watch!
I will give it a try. Thanks!
You flop the nuts and bet everybody off their draws. Why would you want everyone to fold when you make your hand? You hit top set and check raise. How are you going to make money if you're hitting and playing super aggro with the nuts. 5xing any bet is just a overplay. Hey gl man.
To be fair, I didn't want them to fold...lol. I wanted them to call with their Two Pair+ hands. I hit top set and ran into the stone cold nuts...lol
If you are still talking about the llimp raise then is must still be worlking. Just not for you.
I make fun of it because no one uses it correctly. They ONLY do it with big hands which allows everyone to play perfectly against them when they use it. They always claim a bluff but it never is.
You look tired need sleep and seems like your trying to hard to get a win by playing game after game after game trying to get a win when you need to take few days off rest and reset your mind. Them down swings can last awhile too I had my worst one last two months talk about brutal and makes you question your skills or if should quit playing and all kinds of things. Only thing that helped me was I always kept a separate bank account just for poker. That way no matter what my bills were always paid as I have seen guys loose everything houses, cars, family from gambling. Plus on my winning days I would always put half into poker account and half into regular joint account. That way when those loosing streaks hit wasn't worried about bills or family taken care of and I kept always building my poker account and usually at end of the year was built up enough comfortably to even use money from it to take nice family vacations too. Jay from Tennessee 😎
Thankfully I don’t have to rely on poker alone to pay for house, cars, bills etc… I have a full-time gig that takes care of all that. Poker income is on the side which I can use for additional savings, vacations, or any other fun stuff I would like.
I do like the idea of setting up a separate account dedicated to poker funds only. I think that makes sense and helps to alleviate stress as you know exactly how much you have set aside for both playing and profit.
I get plenty of sleep. I hit my average 8 hours of sleep goal every week. Surprisingly I’m still tired all the time. I think it’s more diet and physical exercise that is the problem. While not terrible, my diet could be a lot better. Plus I need to start exercising daily like I used to.
Appreciate the feedback and thanks 🙏 for watching!
I’m very confused as to why you’d raise in this spot. You had the absolute nuts and stacks can easily get in by the river. You’re chasing out a lot of money here.
Which spot are you referring to? Can you list the time stamp?
@@panicpoker apologies. The AQ hand where you flopped broadway. Around the 17 minute mark. You have people willingly putting money into the pot when you have the nuts. Pretty much 0 turn cards are scary. Just let them pile the money in for you and pounce later when more of their stack is in.
Imagine if someone was drawing to the lower end of the straight with 98 and you can cooler them for their stack if a 7 hits. I’m never raising in this spot
Lastly, you said it was smaller, but $150 is a pretty big raise actually. You went 4x plus the $30 call. Massive
OMG!! You instafolded the 2nd nuts to end the night?!?!? I’m only commenting because I want you to improve. What are we doing here? There’s only one K left in the deck. If he has it, he has it. He could be bluffing with all types of hands because of your sizing on the river
that is quite a statement about limp re-raises. they are a great part of my arsenal
as an OMC(as i am viewed). i limp reraise on most all hands in games where there
is little 3 betting. it is so efffective that last week a guy foolded QQ face up to my limp rfe-raise
with AK. when you make "assumptions" you make yourself VERY exploitable.
I've never seen the limp/raise not be the effective nuts. I've heard many claims about it being a bluff but everytime i've seen it go the distance its mostly AA and sometimes KK. So that is to say, yeah, you will get a lot of folds if you are doing this as a bluff.
@@panicpoker not a "bluff", just getting value for a hand being otu of position. i hate raising to 3x or so and getting 3 or 4 calls and then being out of position. i do the same with ALL hands that i would 3 bet in position unless the raiser is REALLY an OMC.
@@paulmaier6305 U are only getting very little value taking down small pots pf with the limp reraise. Its a limited move. Why? Because u are missing out on bigger postflop value. U say u hate raising 3x in EP and getting 3 or 4 callers. Well, u have the option to make adjustments in poker and raise bigger to only get 1 or 2 callers.
please stop riffling on video…..
What is "riffling"?