The Protesters and the President

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  • Опубликовано: 2 май 2024
  • Warning: this episode contains strong language.
    Over the past week, students at dozens of universities held demonstrations, set up encampments and, at times, seized academic buildings. In response, administrators at many of those colleges decided to crack down and called in the local police to detain and arrest demonstrators.
    As of Thursday, the police had arrested 2,000 people across more than 40 campuses, a situation so startling that President Biden could no longer ignore it.
    Jonathan Wolfe, who has been covering the student protests for The Times, and Peter Baker, the chief White House correspondent, discuss the history-making week.
    Guest:
    • Jonathan Wolfe (www.nytimes.com/by/jonathan-w...) , a senior staff editor on the newsletters team at The New York Times.
    • Peter Baker (www.nytimes.com/by/peter-baker) , the chief White House correspondent for The New York Times covering President Biden and his administration.
    Background reading:
    • As crews cleared the remnants of an encampment at U.C.L.A., students and faculty members wondered how the university could have handled protests over the war in Gaza so badly (www.nytimes.com/2024/05/02/us...) .
    • Biden denounced violence on campus (www.nytimes.com/2024/05/02/us...) , breaking his silence after a rash of arrests.
    For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily (nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-t...) . Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.

Комментарии • 56

  • @jillianchaloux6186
    @jillianchaloux6186 Месяц назад +25

    The biased opinions in this pod cast are so over the top that it was hard to listen to the entire conversation.

    • @bryanmurray9846
      @bryanmurray9846 Месяц назад +4

      I had exactly the same response.

    • @npgibson69
      @npgibson69 Месяц назад +4

      The format of this show is pretty effective. The reporter tells us the “facts”. The music and the host tell us how to feel about the story. By separating the reporter from the response, it makes him seem more credible. The soundtrack is so subtle, a lot of listeners probably aren’t even aware of it. The hosts generally hit just the right note of concern. On a production level, this is one of the best liberal propaganda channels going.

    • @lawrencespicer8671
      @lawrencespicer8671 Месяц назад +2

      Agreed. The protestors "confronted" i.e. attacked

    • @SpiderMan-od3kr
      @SpiderMan-od3kr Месяц назад

      Totally agree. Notice how they portray the counter protesters as starting everything never mind the fact that the anti-Israel activists has been screaming, violent, antisemitic slogans for the last 6 months, intimidating Jewish students, and now committing felonies. NY Times has turned into a Leftist propaganda mouthpiece. Their characterizations are so skewed they can no longer be called a newspaper. I recommend every subscribe to The Free Press. It is such a relief to hear actual discussions where contrary opinions are respectfully debated.

    • @TrishV1
      @TrishV1 Месяц назад

      @@npgibson69 Like how there's a brief mention of the Pro-Israel group being the aggressors against the Pro-Palestine group but then somehow they quickly become "the counter protestors" which could be very confusing to someone not listening very closely.

  • @tunahelpa5433
    @tunahelpa5433 Месяц назад +4

    There is a visceral reaction to the ongoing genocide, that's all. You can't assuage that with police. You must respond with empathy for dead mothers and their children.

  • @VasylDemianov
    @VasylDemianov Месяц назад +1

    "Looked like a warzone?" Really? You haven't seen any pictures from Ukraine or Gaza, have you?

  • @CashSache
    @CashSache Месяц назад +15

    Very few details when students are being attacked by a pack of thugs but we get a play by play when the police attack and the students resist.

    • @mmagaa91
      @mmagaa91 Месяц назад +2

      Wait you thought you were going to get the truth from The Daily?

    • @CashSache
      @CashSache Месяц назад +2

      @@mmagaa91 I didn't, but it doesn't hurt to point out bias, propaganda, and ( in my opinion) racism of the NYT.

    • @m.a.b.4104
      @m.a.b.4104 Месяц назад +1

      I was glad they mentioned it near the beginning. I had seen barely any reporting of it except for local news and Al Jazeera but I have since seen more national/international reporting, eg the BBC had a local San Diego reporter cover it well even though the BBC host seemed to be trying to gloss over it. I would like to see more details reported about who was among the counter protestors. There is clear footage of known neonazi agitators at the protest, such as Narek Palyan who has been involved in numerous violent counter protests against the LGBTQ community and has been open about his antisemitic views but seems to be accepted by at least some in the pro Israel protest camp (this hypocrisy alone makes it news worthy).

  • @alyxcoe2608
    @alyxcoe2608 Месяц назад +14

    If Joe doesn't like "chaos", maybe he shouldn't have helped create it in Gaza. If he says he believes in the "law", maybe he shouldn't be violating international law by abetting crimes against humanity.

    • @MrDellasc
      @MrDellasc Месяц назад +1

      And your view on Hamas/hezbollah/Iran?

    • @alyxcoe2608
      @alyxcoe2608 Месяц назад +2

      @@MrDellasc Terrorists come in all shapes & sizes.

    • @m.a.b.4104
      @m.a.b.4104 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@alyxcoe2608well said. Being against the death and destruction in Gaza by an American ally with American weapons does not mean support for bad actors who's own hands are dripping in blood.

    • @m.a.b.4104
      @m.a.b.4104 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@MrDellascyou have a Celtic Football club logo as your profile? There's a very strong historical link between local Celtic Football fans and the Palestinian movement.

  • @oldasrocks9121
    @oldasrocks9121 Месяц назад

    Who were the counter protestors exactly? Some pro-Palestinian students have publically claimed Proud Boys and others similar were involved.

    • @TrishV1
      @TrishV1 Месяц назад

      The counter protesters were the Pro-Israeli group. You can go back and catch it when you re-listen to the podcast, but it seems to be intentionally misleading/confusing. I'm sure the NYT isn't allowed to expicitly say that the Pro-Israel group were the ones being violent and the reason the cops had to get involved.

  • @lawrencespicer8671
    @lawrencespicer8671 Месяц назад

    Why the hell are people building barricades and deciding who gets in and out of a public university campus?

  • @hwadeiv
    @hwadeiv Месяц назад

    I think Biden's response to this solidified me staying home in November.

  • @user-yl8gd4pp1n
    @user-yl8gd4pp1n Месяц назад +15

    Free Palestine.

    • @itweety21
      @itweety21 Месяц назад +3

      💯%🇵🇸🇺🇲😘

    • @MrDellasc
      @MrDellasc Месяц назад +1

      Free Judea.

  • @gotskinn
    @gotskinn Месяц назад

    They have identified ppl just on the lawn witnessing democracy from Jan 6th.
    We need to send Palestine a list of THESE recruits... they will be needing fighters.
    Where is the go fund me to help with airfare?

    • @jillianchaloux6186
      @jillianchaloux6186 Месяц назад

      Ask Jerry Seinfeld for the money ya goof

    • @ili626
      @ili626 Месяц назад

      Yeah ask Seinfeld dunce

  • @jem7636
    @jem7636 Месяц назад +3

    The universities can regulate time, place, and manner of protests. Protesters should consider if the goal is to help Palestinians or be dramatic. Right now, the main impact of the protests is to help Trump.
    I recently toured a synagogue in the Cleveland area. They had an armed guard to protect their preschool children from threats.

    • @arnoldwilson5377
      @arnoldwilson5377 Месяц назад +1

      Nothing to do with Trump. Stop spreading misinformation.

    • @m.a.b.4104
      @m.a.b.4104 Месяц назад

      That armed guard is necessary because of right wing extremists. Terror attacks on the Jewish community come from neonazis, not pro Palestinian leftists.

    • @jem7636
      @jem7636 Месяц назад

      @@arnoldwilson5377 Please stop being rude.

  • @thaphreak
    @thaphreak Месяц назад +2

    The victimhood is hilarious.. apparently 2024 is the year of victimhood!
    Play dumb games, win dumb prizes.

    • @Isaaxz123
      @Isaaxz123 Месяц назад

      The ironic thing is that even the pro-israelis are competing to be victims, we have republicans talking about how "words are violence" and similar liberal shit.

    • @ili626
      @ili626 Месяц назад

      Netanyahu’s victimhood is so perverse he’s rendered “antisemitism” almost meaningless.. especially when you consider that Palestinians are Semites too.

    • @claireconover
      @claireconover Месяц назад +2

      have you been asleep for the last decade?
      everybody’s proclaimed themselves a victim of one thing or other for the last 10 years, at least.

    • @Isaaxz123
      @Isaaxz123 Месяц назад

      yeah, thats how the game is played. Even Republicans throw down the victim card when they talk about globalists and the great replacement.