to all of the people arguing in the comments, p/c are like water and v/m are fire. you can not compare them, they’re completely different, but both are beautiful in their own way. do i love that v/m won? yes, it was their last olympics and they killed it. am i sad that p/c didn’t? yes, to an extent. i didn’t feel they skated the best they could’ve, but if they had, they definitely deserved the gold. v/m were just better that week, but both teams are amazing and deserve recognition for that.
thank you for your honesty ...i think like you that the 2 styles are so diferent ....the north american ice school and the eropean ice school ....in fact it would be better to have 1 style makes both !!!! a dream i supposed
being a VM fan it's really hard to praise somebody else..but this routine left me awestruck..so beautiful..i don't know about this time..acc to me both the teams PC and VM deserved gold...but it's all about fate ..so all PC fans don't be sad..it's just the beginning..they have long long way to go..next time they will make it..
your post should be the role model of posts. V/M won, thats cool for me as a P/C fan. one of the two teams had to win, it was a close decision and the better competitors these days won this event. they were flawless and the French made mistakes in the SD. I am sad but the outcome was perfectly right. well done: 5th olympic medal, third gold- wow legends.
Thank you for posting these videos! The American broadcaster doesn’t make Pyeongchang replays available so this is great to watch. Better than them anyway since no one is yapping constantly about the technical side and detracting from enjoyment of watching their broadcasts.
La magnifique miniature résume à elle seule la beauté unique de cette danse. Il y a Papadakis-Cizeron et il y a les autres, tous les autres. Je me souviens avoir visionné cette vidéo au moment des JO, il y a plus de 3 ans, au moment de la guerre des fans hystériques avec Virtue-Moir. C'est bien la première fois que j'ai vu les fans des vainqueurs être aussi haineux vis-à-vis des seconds.
A bit strange - a new record but the title was won by others - for me the winners are Gaby and Guillaume - that dance will go down in history and they will also - the best dancing couple in the world ...
Quel bonheur de les voir patiner sur cette superbe sonate !!! Ils sont formidables !!! Je regrette qu'ils n'aient pas eu l'or mais les canadiens étaient remarquables !!!
That was simple beautiful. Absolute classical choreografie to classical music. Clean lines, delicate, allready perfection of using the egde of skates. Remember me/give vibes how have skated legendary Navka/Kostomarov to classic music. This couple have ice dance figures, what I call Standart: they are both high, have long legs and artistic arms. I'm really sorry for them, that the SD had those problems with wardrobe and twizzles misteakes. When they have cleen SD, they will have won gold and will deserves. that. Canadian are really great, but my opinion-this couple have a reaaly good chances for next Olympics, if they will continue like that. The best programm on this Olympics for me.
wow, how shallow to judge a team by describing their looks as standard: p/c being tall, long legged and long armed. i guess ice dance federations should begin pruning their ranks of teams who don't have the height, long legs nor long arms, even if they have both the technical and dancing goods. *ehem, the shibs? maya certainly doesn't have long legs nor long arms nor the height. maybe she shouldn't be an ice dancer ;)
I agree :) they have a physical appearance that helps their elegant dance, all long and elegant. It is not discrimination, it is description. Some people like musculate tough looking people, some prefer thin classical and graceful people. They represent the ultimate elegance for a french person. I'll wait for them at the next Olympics! Une telle élégance est rarissime, cela ne m'étonne pas qu'ils ne reçoivent que des compliments sur leur grâce par les professionnels. On se rappellera d'eux dans l'histoire de la dance sur glace grâce à leur style particulier
Gia Kourlas for NYT ...wrote about this FD !!! When a program shows 2 bodies moving as only one ...like doing by P/C ...suddently the competition is a window towards 1 other space , 1 other time , strange , quiet , floating and memorable . And C Pinard , their choregraph said ....we want to see , it's not them nor Beethoven it's the meeting both ... Yesterday P/C won the gold medal for the world championships ...with 3 records : SD, FD , and combine ..... I wrote in a precedent post : P/C will be the precursors in ice dance ....now i hope it will be soon !!
Wonderful, graceful and I love the flow of the costumes. They did well with the music BUT their edges - Gabby's in particular and extensions are not quite what i would hope for with this music and look. I have no idea how they did so well in the short dance forget the wardrobe malfunction but technically there were bobbles and artistically this team does not have the magic of Virtue and Moir or Chock and Bates. They can get away a bit more in the Free dance but the short dance the chem was not there. Still I am amazed after what seemed the fix was in and that the judges wanted to give it to them. They gave it to the right team - Virtue and Moir much to my surprise. Still lovely free dance.
Oh, thank you for mentioning their technical skills. I totally agree, I don't know why people seem to think they're better technical skaters than the canadians. They skate almost the entire program on 2 feet, . They're are unison, but their free leg seems to be just thrown out, not extended, like they can't wait to put it down, so they can be back on 2 feet again. At times, it looks quite messy . As to artistic merit, me. It's been done forever by the Russians, nothing new here.
@VIRTUAL WORLD DISORDER REALITY CHECK HAVEN I am a Canadian and a fan of V/M. Stop insulting people just for the fun of it. It is disgraceful and uncall for. And don't come back with the excuse that the French are doing the same thing on the V/M video because my answer will be: Be more respectful of yourself (and of Tessa and Scott), and don't put you to their level. People have the right to prefer the style of dancing of P/C. And it's not true that their program was not difficult. In fact, the base value of the executed elements was exactly the same as V/M for the FD.
They totally messed up their twizzles and we're not in unison in the short. That's why they were rightfully scored lower. It is a shame that their fans cannot accept a loss and continue to perpetuate the myth that it was due to a wardrobe malfunction
They got a higher score than the Canadians for this piece. I think Moir and virtue got a 122.40 and these guys got a 123.35 for their free dance aka this one. The Canadians were 1.7 points ahead after the short program already. So they took the gold by a fraction! I mean I frickin loved the moulin rouge piece, that was their free dance, that was amazing! But just to let you know. Technically these guys scored a tiny bit higher here. I mean the level of artistry and technique is sublime for both couples anyway!
How would you perform your twizzles with your top coming off and exposing your breast at a time where everything is mocked on social medias and knowing you have to go on ? Acknowledge that it messed with Gabby and that her mind was on the program AND on trying to keep her top on herself. Whether or not it's the origin of the mistakes, only Gabriella can know for sure. For the rest of us, we can only speculate.
Their fault ? How is it their fault ? Gabriella can't turn around her head at 180 degrees to see if it's ok. They had someone to take care of that. She did not. Since the accident, Guillaume is the one to sew the costumes. If someone is responsible, it's that lady in charge of the costumes who, obviously, missed something. Besides, they have a coaching team for that. If skaters could do everything themselves, there would be no coaching team. Everyone failed them and one can wonder if this was not on purpose. Besides, please, don't make statements like "V/M are superior". Scores during the olympic season say otherwise. And in the end, it came down to the skaters who were the cleanest. It happened to be V/M. But at the GPF, it was P/C. It was close.
You are misunderstanding at least in my case. I just wish that rivalry would come to a 4 clean skates from both teams. That type of malfunction occurring right at he most important competition of the quad? Big shame. Canadians deserved to win but I just wish it would happen in a competition without this.
В фигурном катании какое-то свое специфическое судейство... Считаю, что они должны были получить золотую медаль. Этот танец уникален по своей проникновенности жестов и музыки.
Me too! Apparently not everyone understands the concept of elegance. For me it's the same difference between Moses Pendleton and Alvin Ailey or Philippe Découflé.. One is athletic (yes very well executed) and one is only beauty you can't feel any effort because there is no show of capacities, only dancing for art. Very different things. The same people who don't go watch contemporary dance is not gonna like Papadakis and Cizeron...
Ha. Those twizzles were a mess. The lift was off and the whole skate was tentative. I won't even comment on the silly pop song they chose to skate through -- all the way through. It's an exhibition number! They do not skate as one. He is SO much better than she is. This should have been 5th after the short dance.
well, overall, it was not a great olympic memory to treasure. i know they were not even happy with their scores in the SD because they know for a fact they were a mess. false achievement.
that as you say is one beautiful and elegant danse, effortless and flying on the ice, I've never felt such emotions while watching ice dancing. It may not be as technical as you want it to be but I feel like I'm not the only one touched by their performances. You're entitled to your opinion only
It was genuinely lovely but I did not think the routine was Olympics worthy. I think they are capable of much more. The audience reaction was not nearly as enthusiastic as it was for V/M. Of course, P/C are much younger and have not had nearly the experience that V/M have. I hope that their coaches will give them more demanding programs in the future. They need to do more than just "lovely", at which they excel.
A Fan It is amazing that they can turn this sport to a ballet on ice. For those, who don't appreciate this artistry, I bet they can't do it themselves, lol!
If I could, I would achieve at least a medal at the 2018 Winter Olympic Games, lol. I am not comparing or judging g/g against anyone. I am talking the arts of the sport. Please don't be prejudiced by your support for v/m.
+Derek To by saying "For those, who don't appreciate this artistry, I bet they can't do it themselves", then you are being prejudiced as to the skills of the fans/viewers who watch ice dance, but not necessarily appreciate p/c's "artistry". like i said, can you even do what p/c is doing? and besides, none of us casual fans are actual judges of this sport, but we can do CRITICAL THINKING of the sport aspect of this discipline, right? do we have to have the skills to be able to do some critical thinking of this sport?
I entitle to my opinion and you entitle to yours. I don't think much of people, who said that certain skaters are boring or overrated. In the spirit of the Olympic games, it is not about getting a metal but the fortitude in participation and the courage to perform in one's best ability. You can do as much Critical thinking of the sport aspect of this discipline, please don't be critical of those had the fortitude and courage to perform, presenting their countries. If you don't have the skills to comment on skaters, it is best to leave it to the judges at the Olympic Games. Judges at the Games are there for a reason, right!
and just comment on "artistry?" hahahaha this is a sport, not just "ballet" on ice. and can you do ballet yourself so you can say you're more "credible" at commenting on the "artistry" of ice dance?
Lots of athletes train in another country than the one they are competing for. P/C moved to Montreal after their coach, Romain Haguenaueur move there and P/C decided to move with him.
Also , you have Bruno Massot ( gold medal in couple ....) who is french and skating for Germany !!!! In your country you have a great chance concerning the number of skating stadium ....in France ; we have just a skating stadium in the biggest cities ......and they are public with priority for school the week and families the weekend ..... We are a " Football " country ....all the skaters must go away for training .....it's the raison for what a medal is very important for us ....a good request ;more money for the federation
Thanks for the Information. I know that skaters go where the best coaches are. That would probably be Canada, Russia and Japan? I was rooting for C/ P at the Olympics. Im not a fan of V/M. Cizeron is imo the best male ice dancer today; My other favorite was Charlie White.
How did they get the highest score ever? There was an obvious mistake in their twizzles. Also, I would say their strength is more on the technical side. Artistically they are rather dull. Compare their artistry to some of the greats from the 1990s for example, like Usova/Zhulin or Klimova/Ponomarenko, and there is no comparison.
mistake on the twizzles for SD ....here they talk about the FD ....you write too quickly !!! After you can' t compare the notes between 1990 and now ...because the rules of ISU changed at the beginning of 2000... Also for me the difference between Usola /Zhulin or other ...is the speed on ice ....i think also the material change , the technology changed also ... Usola /Zhulin or Klimova /ponomarenko...i agreed they was great champions ....but the skating is different ...like for exemple ....Katarina Witt and Alina Zagitova ....it's different but also 2 great skaters ...
Extraordinary !!!you are the only one person who see a mistake on these twizzles ...neither journalists , nor tv reporters , nor judges , nor youtubers on this forum ( 750 ) saw that .... either you don't know nothing in ice dance , or you are blind , or you are just a dirty troll who , said some stupidities and lies and puts her shit on the forum ??? but your opinion is uselessand without arguments ..
It's not a match of football with a video .....now if you want to play this game ....i can see again the V/M videos with the problems on the twizzles and always overscored ......your are'nt fair .....and also not judges , or journalists , or tv reporters ......
yeah better look at the corny shit from v.m right? with stupid faces from scott.those fake orgasm faces. go back to your blog and hate on P/.c theres , v.m uber !OK? , fucking loser!hihi
Monica P/ S are boring loosers . They are moving like my grandpa and grandpa on the ice. Are they 22 @23.?and yes I better with go and watch V/M again. So sexy:)
Monika Tadam Why the overreaction? Can't anyone express their opinions? They didn't like it, they didn't like it. Simple as that. Really, you sound like a petulant child when you attack someone like that for simply expressing their thoughts
My comment above is my personal opinion from what I have watched! I'm not sure what advice you're talking about and btw, I don't need to read any paper, newspaper for that matter to voice my opinion and like what I like.
I'm sick to read dirty comme ts about V/M. They won and thats it. They are two times Olympic champions. P/ S are loosers. I'm sure their time is over. I cant stand to watch those boring provrams anymore.
O ballet sobre gelo desse casal, é bonito,, é uma graça, é leve, suave, é de uma beleza incrível, a sincronia é perfeita, adoro vê-los bailar 🥰🥰👏👏👏👏❤❤⛸⛸🇧🇷🇧🇷
Is a shame what happened in the short program with the wardrobe malfunction. They are exquisite and a joy to watch. Ice dancing is about the lines, telling a story, about emotion and technique and this couple has all of the above. They are still young and hopefully will have another chance for olympic gold.
It's not about emotion, it's about a blade on ice... they will be overscored in future for sure! don't worry, they're not going to round up EUROPEAN JUDGES and kill them all, sadly...
Really? You are a sore fan of the winner? Why? Because Papadakis and Cizeron set another world record in the FD and beat Virtue and Moir in the FD? Do you realize that your comments diminish Virtue and Moir's win? For a fan of the winners to feel compelled to diss the silver medalists says a lot about your character. I am not an expert. But I do know that ice dance commentators always comment about P/C's blades on ice and the fact that in their routines they cover much more of the ice than do most ice dancers. So I doubt that you are any kind of expert in ice dance. But since 2014, I have noticed this about a significant minority of Virtue and Moir's fans. They are mean spirited and find it necessary to diss competitors even when Virtue and Moir are not competing. V/M fans did this to Davis and White when D/W competed on DWTS. And V/M fans did this to Papadakis and Cizeron during 2015 and 2016 even though V/M were not competing. And when D/W won the gold in 2014, they were dissed by V/M fans over and over and over again. I enjoy reading comments, and "no" I have not observed the fans of other ice dance couples be as mean spirited and so persistently mean spirited towards other ice dancers as are V/M's fans.
DONT TALK TO THAT BITCH...she is jealous, every time ... In FS everyone is overscored beside Teass and scott, those lousy , slow skaters who have programs like corny , cheap, tacky tv show , they are fanatics, they hate on p/c eveywhere, even on those events where v.m arent in. tjey will be hating on them until they will stop skating, they are jealous losers
Canadians in ice dance: The French pair have an easier routine ice dance is not about speed or art it's about big difficult skills Canadians in ladies' singles: The Russians have more difficult programs but it's not about jumps it's about speed and art As a Canadian, I am throughly confused by the hypocrisy of certain comments. I for one enjoy them all for their differences, but think difficult and execution of elements should be more important in singles and pairs, where as art, speed, and fluidity should be valued more in dance, as the title itself is an art. Of course being the best in all aspects is ideal but that's not the case with any skater; they all have their strengths and weaknesses.
For the world championship 2018 in Milan ; they won the gold medal but with 3 records ....SD , FD , and total ....i think if their skating was so easely ...it could 'nt be possible .... V/M was great champions ....they made a great career ....now it's seems to me ....we must turn the page ...and sincerely their " cunniliftus " not missing me !!!!
French would have win the gold, it would have been the same, they deserved a gold medal. The Canadian won only cause of the canadian judge in the Free. (No french judge and canadian judge didn t give a single 10 to the french but 4 to the canadian, others judges gave an average 3.3 times a 10 to the french (each judge give 5 marks))
@Cedric L Except that there are only 7 scores that count for the final score. The highest and lowest score are not taken into account, so the score from the Canadian judge did not count.
Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir’s Free Dance in Team Figure Skating | Pyeongchang 2018 960,273 views Cizeron and Papadakis 2018 PyeongChang Olympic free dance new world record 123.35 94,383 views that about sums it up!
well , but i think in Canada the " temperature is MINUS ....it's cold ....and for me it's good in the south of France we have sun and a spring temperature ....also ...i prefer to be out of my home ....sorry for you !!!
VIRTUAL WORLD DISORDER REALITY CHECK HAVEN you are looking at the figures for which video ? The CBC ? Those videos are limited per IOC broadcast regulations . We do not have access in Canada to US or French or other broadcasts , so your comparison is entirely pointless. What exactly is your point ?
Самая лучшая пара, последних 20 лет! Божественны!!! Специально занизили баллы, чтобы канадцы в общей сумме опередили их, не справедливо! Политика и в спорт полезла !
M K вы в фигурном катании хорошо разбираетесь? Вы видели как скальзят французы?на харошей скорости мягко, нежно легко и непринужденно! Вот за это и ставят высокие баллы!
I'm familiar with moonlight sonata but I'm not sure with the story behind the music and that's why I'm not sure about their interpretation of it. That being said their dance is elegant and smooth, but I think some moves didn't match the music. (Or it's only me?) There were wild and fast piano beats but their movements were a little... calm? and there are smooth tunes but their movements were...wild. If they could just exchange some parts, then it'll be sublime. :) Because of those, I feel less emotion from this piece compared to the Shib sibs (it was fun!) or Virtue-Moir (that made me cry the first time I've watched them on YT few days ago, to be honest) Anyway, I'll resume my time in my rabbit hole watching figure skating (this is the first time I've gotten engaged in the sport!)
Julia : in fact this sonata have a story .....when Beethoven wrote this pièce of piano .....he was very sad and depressive after a love affair without future for a young Austrian countess ( 17 old for her 40 old and more for him ) and in the same time he became deaf .....very hard for a musician !!! I think P/C translate perfectly the sadness and also the romantism ( we are in 19 century it's the romantic period in Europa ) For me the traduction of music on ice dance is a perfect moment , i see no P/C nor Beethoven but both in the same story .
I'm not hugely into skating but howd they get silver??? The shib sibs at least matched the intensity of their music and twizzled better than this couple. This was highkey a let down bc of the chemistry too :/ but still elegant.
I must be biased as I'm French (sorry 'bout it) but I don't get the hate? like, we know who was part of the jury and truly, if they were to be biased, they would have been more likely to root for the Canadians than the French. So their scoring was most likely based on the artistry and grace of the French compared to the spectacular elements of the Canadians (as many other comments have pointed out). Anyway, I enjoyed both performances for different reasons and I don't understand how some people here think it's relevant to undermine and hate over one's performance in order to confirm their preference for the competitor. Please consider the hard work and dedication of each!
Totally agree. It's like arguing about which color is the best color. Does not make any sense. Some people like blue, others like red, others like green... No preference of one color is better than the other, it's a personnal thing. And all colors can be beautiful! Don't let the trolls get the better of you, they are not worth it. As I said in another comment I can't understand that such a graceful, beautiful and artistic sport can bring so much ugliness in the comment section. Love from Canada :)
Izza well said. I really ought to not even read the comments, they bring out the worst in me, I feel the need to put them in their place. And I do it regardless of where you’re from or who you may be blindly rooting for. The comments are ridiculous and revolting. I don’t really care if a stranger insults me, they mean nothing to me, but I can’t sit back and let them insult a skater, especially personally. I wish they would simply disable comments, in the absence of a moderator. The ISU has issued a statement about such comments on their Instagram publications. You would think people would use the comments sections of social media videos to ask questions, share information, etc. Instead we are treated to a show of histrionics and conspiracy theories. Its very toxic if one is not careful, as I have learned
isn't it the same under V/M videos? let the haters and trolls be haters and trolls it is impossible to educate them. I love to read comments under a P/C video from you ( obviously V/M fans) that are kind and respectful. ( what doesn't mean that you have to like their performances, of course)
Izza : About the comments. In general, the rave reviews are in the foreground, the hostile comments are only contradictory answers. In contradiction we find everything, from a respectful advice to insults that even evoke the physical dancers. It seems less tiring to counter arguments than to produce them initially. Your response not to be influenced is legitimate, but you will agree to recognize that it is a strong pollution very harmful to our pleasure to exchange our opinions and impressions. Cordially (from France). A propos des commentaires. De façon générale, les commentaires élogieux sont au premier plan, les commentaires hostiles ne sont que des réponses contradictoires. Dans la contradiction on trouve de tout, cela va d'un avis respectueux jusqu'aux insultes qui évoquent même le physique des danseurs. Il semble moins fatiguant de contrer des arguments que d'en produire initialement. Votre réponse de ne pas se laisser influencer est légitime, mais vous serez d'accord à reconnaitre qu'il s'agit d'une forte pollution très néfaste à notre plaisir d'échanger nos avis et impressions. Cordialement
Personally, this does not get to me. I disliked the music. Technically, they looked sharp AF. They are gorgeous dancers. I think so too they were overmarked in the SD, since the twizzles were not great. I am not sure the dress directly impacted the score, but definitely caught them off guard. In the end, it was a tight match between two power houses. Came down to tiny little details. No one should be ashamed of these results!
they were not overmarked, their Personnal Best is higher than that.... So technically the Canadian that beat their PB (for a lot) and french thet don t hit it, it was good marks for both. But canadian have been overmarked at Free yes for sure and french undermarked. When a pair win only because of the marks of one judge who is the judge of their own country, you can easily say they ve been overmarked and even if the canadian deserve a gold medal, here you can say that the french have been roobed. Canadian were better in Original but French were better in Free. At the world the french beated the canadian with almost 3 pts more than them.
If you actually look at the detail scores, you would notice that the scores the canadian judge gave the French is in the same line as the other judges gave. Only one place is she the lowest scoring for a specific element. In any others, other judges had agreed with them. Second, their short dance was nowhere near the canadians. Third, a lot comes with the impression of the judges. Some liked the interpretation of the Canadians best, some the French. Seeing people argue here, it is obvious that it's not black and white. It's a judged sport, so it's about opinions. The French got better marks in the FD. They won that, but their SD was a slumb and that's why they got second. It's that easy. Stop making excuses about the Canadian judge. Look at the score, you might find a conspiracy, because other judges also gave them bad scores. We can also comment on the Turkish judge that gave shit all to the Canadians. Is that a judge influenced by the French? Conspiracies are usually made up. Even the French couple agreed with the scores. You would think they know better.
Didier Gailhaguet has a lot of credibility. Hahahahhaha. The Japanese judge gave V/M higher scores than the Canadian judge. P/C totally messed up their short dance and were hugely over marked despite it. The total score should never have been as close as it was. Be grateful for their silver medal, it was a gift. If you want to know who the best skaters are ask the coaches and other skaters. They will all tell you it's Virtue and Moir. P/C are starring in a new show; it's called Mannequins on Ice. Bring your own emotion because they don't provide any. Hahahahhaha.
And the French and US judges gave the Canadians much lower scores than the rest of the panel. V/M didn't win b/c of any one judge's marks, but they certainly won despite the marks of two judges. On what planet does the short dance not count? Why are you acting like it's all about the free dance - which by the way, I would have given to V/M. It's a two part competition and the French messed up the short. And as for the PB of P/C in the short? Up until the Olympic year, they never got higher than 78 and usually in the mid-70s. Isn't it interesting that ALL of a sudden in the Olympic year, they start to get marks over 80 in the SD for a short dance everybody agrees is ridiculous or at best lame. The Shibutanis, with whom I am not enamoured did a better job. P/C are lucky they weren't 7 or 8 points behind after the short because they surely deserved to be.
I think the performance by Katya Gordeeva and Sergei Grinkov to the Moonlight Sonata is vastly superior to PC's performance. Everything about G&G's performance was exquisite--hairstyle, costumes, choreography, musicality, emotion, elegance of line, synchronicity. G&G's performance was so special, that I would not choose this music if I were part of an ice dance or pairs team today, knowing that people would compare. There is no comparison. PC's costumes look too old fashioned and like they could be purchased at a local department store. P's hair by the end of the dance looked like a rat's nest. Was she trying to be sexy or something? It greatly distracted from the performance. Given their choice of costume for the SD fiasco, I think they should do what Nancy Kerrigan did for her Olympic performances. Nancy had Vera Wang, one of the top designers in the world, make her costumes. They were absolutely beautiful, classical, and emphasized Nancy's long, elegant lines. There is no excuse for a costume malfunction at the Olympics. This is not Ice Capades. It reminded me of Tonya Harding's broken shoe lace in her Olympic long program. I first saw Papadakis' short dance outfit at an earlier competition when it didn't break. I thought it was one of the ugliest costumes I'd ever seen. It looked like a grass skirt and top, like she was going to dance the hula. It was suppose to be the samba or some other latin dance? Go to the You Tube video of Virtue and Moir doing the samba--wow! That is the samba on ice! V and M danced another latin routine, the flamenco, for their original dance at the Olympics in 2010--now that is how you do a latin routine. I think it is still one of the very best ice dance performances I have ever seen. People say the French are lyrical. I can see that to a point, but, again, go to Torvill and Dean's Bolero performance and their subsequent performances. Dean did the choreography. Now that is lyricism. I wish PC the best in the future, but I really think they need help in many areas. They are French, home of the best clothing designers in the world. Get help. Get help with hairstyle, choreography, emotion. C showed no emotion; P looked like she was in angst the entire time. They are so young; why do they look old on ice?
I so agree with you Peggie Flemming. Well said! I hope they will emprove in tbe future. I really hope. Do floatig movements under a magic music is not enough to be Olympic champions. Both their dances were overscored. I don't understand why their fans are complaining. They got more that they deserved.
"They are so young; why do they look old on ice?" that's true, in The Skating Lesson ice dance recap, Sandra Bezic mentioned that V/M managed to make Moulin Rouge felt way fresher than Moonlight Sonat even though it's overused. Their attitude is also a turn off, they think they're too self important to improve, and trying a new style is beneath them. That's why as a fan it's difficult for me to like them.
in this case could you explain the 3 records for the world championships 2018 ....SD; FD ; Total .... the costumes are the same ; the choregraphy idem .....but the skating and emotion are better and better ....you could hear the tv comments ....not french tv ....but british , or spain , or US .....they deserved well these 3 records and the gold medal .... For OG , it was for V/M a Pyrrhus victory , victory by default , yes they skated their 2 programs very well ....but without the costume problem in SD .....P/C won the gold !!!! 0,79 points .....is not a great victory !!!!
Peggy ...the J Torvill and C Dean 's costumes for the Bolero are " HORRIBLE " !!! The choregraphy was very good and C Dean a great skater .....please could you remember .....C Dean is the P/C 's choregraphe and also for a part in S/Massot programs ......this season ....he was the best !!!!
Hi Manick, The T/D costumes for the Bolero were revolutionary at the time. It was 1984, and up until then ice dancing looked like ballroom dancing or Vaudeville--really corny stuff. For Bolero, their costumes were inspired by Romeo and Juliet-type attire. Everyone thought they were beautiful; I still do. The choreography was revolutionary as well--it changed ice dance forever. Dean elevated the sport to art. For a later routine, he composed the music and hired a 40 piece orchestra to record it. I know C Dean is the P/C choreographer and if he continues to be, I wish them all success. So much of this is personal preference--I just haven't connected yet to P/C.
La médaille d'or olympique ne vaut malheureusement rien en patinage à force de triche systématique depuis toujours. L'esprit même des jeux en est trahi. Donc ne pas se fier au classement mais juste au plaisir d'admirer tous ces sportifs qui se depassent pour le plaisir. Le leur et celui de leur public.
En programme libre, ce sont vraiment les meilleurs aucun doute ! Je trouve scandaleux qu'une Présidente de Fédération soit autorisé à juger lorsque ses patineurs jouent une finale olympique ! Je comprends maintenant l'attitude arrogante des canadiens !
Ce ne sont pas tout les canadiens qui sont arrogants. Tu ne peux pas généraliser l'attitude de tout les canadiens par les commentaires de trolls qui se trouve sur RUclips. Il y a autant de commentaires de trolls français dans les vidéos de V/M. C'est une guerre enfantine de sans esprit. La majorité des canadiens respectent les athlètes des autres pays et leurs "fans". Tu n'as certainement pas lu certains commentaires que j'ai posté antérieurement sous cette vidéo...
Izza , je dois reconnaitre votre fair-play et votre justesse d' analyse .....sans renier vos préférences , ce qui est tout a fait a votre honneur ....vous gardez l' esprit ouvert merci ....
Joly Patricia +izza +manick Patricia ... l’arrogance, l’impolitesse, le mépris , ne sont pas l’apanage d’un seul pays. Ce genre de comportement ne connaît pas de frontière, c’est comme pour le racisme. Pour ce qui est d’une juge présidente de fédération, c’est un règlement de la ISU. Ceux qui y voient une manœuvre ou manigance de Patinage Canada sont de mauvaise foi. Le juge français, ou russe, ou américain aurait pu être président de sa fédération. Cela ne veut pas dire que cette personne soit automatiquement incapable de remplir sa fonction première de juge, dans l’impartialité. On a déjà vu des juges d’autres pays subir l’influence de leur président de fédération, avec tous les jeux de coulisses associés aux olympiques. Cela était monnaie courante à l’époque de l’ex URSS.
Pour moi les jeux sont finis ...inutile de parler des règles pour les jo 2018 ....comme je l' ai écrit V/M ont fait le job ...2 programmes parfaits techniquement ....je n' aime pas leur patinage ...mais c'est mon avis et il vaut ce qu'il vaut et n' engage que moi ... Par contre ce qui serait a mon sens perfectible dans le futur serait pour l' ISU d' améliorer ....peut être la composition du jury ( les 3 derniers couples médaillables n' auraient pas de juge de leur pays pour la FD ....
Dear person who videoed this, don’t keep zooming in and out next time :) Stay zoomed in and track them. It will make for a smoother video for you to watch later on. This is motion sickness inducing. Not trying to be rude. ^^” Very thankful for the post regardless.
For me, technicality they were slightly better than virtue and moir. But for chemistry on the ice not a chance comparing to virtue and moir. Thats just me😊😊😊
I prefer this program and the music; I just wish they had better or she had better edges and slightly better lines. They do have magic but so do the Canadians. For some reason though he does not have the male lead though romantic figure persona. But I like them; just think overall the right team won - not a V and M fan either lol. Sometimes I hate what Scott says.
Kim Udang. I agree. There is no chemistry between P/S. When you look at V/M you see woman and man dancing on the ice. Here I don't see it. Just a routine under beautiful music and nothing else.
People with bad taste will never cease to amaze me.. that's why Canadians are nowhere in Fashion, Art, Architecture, Litterature, Music (should I remind you of...Justin freakin Bieber?) et cetera, et cetera.
I don’t want to offend anyone with my opinion, but I wasn’t really excited or “on the edge of my seat” at all when watching this routine. I love moonlight sonata, but this routine was just ok for me.
Can't help but notice that V/M fans seem to go on every P/C video out there to brag about how the Canadians are better and the French don't deserve praise... Have you got nothing better to do ? Your favs won gold, why are you out there jumping at the throat of people who enjoy and/or prefer P/C performances ??
lightwood_m you obviously haven’t been on any Virtue and Moir vidéo since last year, with the exception of the Olympics, where most videos are restricted due to broadcasting rights. Have a look at the comments from the French commentators. Canada or any other country doesn’t have exclusivity on vulgarity and meanness
Dustin Gabe This comment has been flagged for the most obvious reasons. Reprehensible. No human being with a soul or a brain would write such a comment. I will be following up with Google to insist that your account be shut down. There is no place for this. Here or elsewhere
Dustin Gabe BOOHOO bitter loser p/c fans nyahahaahaha! can't even come up with technical reasons why p/c should be superior to v/m. bitter loser p/c fans booohoooohoooo
To person who thinks "this sport has always been at this level of difficulty lol" I say, first cut out the lol nonsense and second, watch the sport as it was just four years ago in Sochi 2014 and the back to Vancouver in 2010. If you can't see how the sport has fallen in difficulty then pls wear a new pair of eyeglasses ( spectacles to the ones with an education).
V/M can easily skate to Moonlight Sonata and it would be glorious. But can you imagine P/C skate to Moulin Rouge? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH they'll obviously look funny. who will their characters be? the Dance Instructor and the Pimp?
J Buda I understood that, don't get me wrong, I am not stupid but why putting such comment? I guess trolls will be trolls... My point is that P/C fan will continue to prefer the style of P/C no matter what others say just like V/M fans will continue to prefer the style of V/M so why bother?
J Buda I agree that it would be interesting to see P/C get out of their "comfort zone", push themselves and try new styles at least for the next 3 years and see how they performe. That would help them for their SD too, they are lacking in that part of the competition. Since they have began to win competitions with their classic style they have stick with it.
El gran error de los franceses no participar en el team event, y eso que eran favoritos de los jueces, aquello les pudo ayudar así como V/M usaron esos eventos previos para ensayo y error con los jueces, lo cual corrigieron en el evento final y se llevaron su 2do oro olimpico (bueno 3ro si contamos el del team event)
both couples well skated !!! in fact we have 2 schools in ice dance first : north- american school who is most " sportive " ...and a european/russian school ; most artistic after it's difficult to reconcile the 2 styles ....the question in ice dance : where 's the part of sport ? where's the part of dance ? it's the eternal question and problem but thank you for your post
@Manick I don't understand why you think V/M are more on the American style school of dance. You seems to forget that they have train for more than 10 years with 2 Russians coach before their 2 years off competition. Marie-France and Patrice trained in France when they were competing so they must have had the French/Russian training, no?
Vanessa James & Morgan Cipres had full houses. Papadakis & Cizrone had surprising low after the "ward robe" mishap. They are absolutely gorgeous and perfect skaters but everybody knew they would not win the competition So sad as they should have I love them
thank you so much for your post !!! for one moment i thought that all north- americain people was racists and the more important was to practise the french bashing .....your are my sunshine for today !!!
Manick I find the French to be glorious. I have found a lady who lives in France and I am trying to get translation from English into French on my Facebook. account but only in the private message. I need it to reverse into English then. The entire French team were treated so poorly in this Olympics.
The French ice skating was the only reason I watched skating this year....though I did think that Javier was awesome. James & Cipres are wonderful skaters that in my opinion were totally ignored and underscored. As were Papadakis & Cizeron. Wish I could make the competition in Milan. Good Luck to them
that is exactly what happened. if the dress malfunction didn't happen maybe ( but maybe not is possible, too- we will never know) they twizzled clearly and they got level4 in the step sequence ( they lost the level because of Gabriella´s bad double twizzle...but to twizzle in balance with a heavy dress that is not close to your body is nearly impossible) but it happened and the tech panel had to call it and so for me the whole competition went fair, although I cheered for the wonderful French team.the outcome of the olys is completely cool.
Don't scroll through the comments, it's going to get ugly. Just watch & appreciate the performance 😊
Even with this warning, I wasn’t prepared.
Glad this was the first comment I saw
to all of the people arguing in the comments, p/c are like water and v/m are fire. you can not compare them, they’re completely different, but both are beautiful in their own way. do i love that v/m won? yes, it was their last olympics and they killed it. am i sad that p/c didn’t? yes, to an extent. i didn’t feel they skated the best they could’ve, but if they had, they definitely deserved the gold. v/m were just better that week, but both teams are amazing and deserve recognition for that.
thank you for your honesty ...i think like you that the 2 styles are so diferent ....the north american ice school and the eropean ice school ....in fact it would be better to have 1 style makes both !!!! a dream i supposed
Manick i mean they do train with the same coaches, but definitely have different styles
President of the canadian federation in the jury killed it for them.
being a VM fan it's really hard to praise somebody else..but this routine left me awestruck..so beautiful..i don't know about this time..acc to me both the teams PC and VM deserved gold...but it's all about fate ..so all PC fans don't be sad..it's just the beginning..they have long long way to go..next time they will make it..
your post should be the role model of posts. V/M won, thats cool for me as a P/C fan. one of the two teams had to win, it was a close decision and the better competitors these days won this event. they were flawless and the French made mistakes in the SD. I am sad but the outcome was perfectly right. well done: 5th olympic medal, third gold- wow legends.
You both are gorgeous. Greatest among the great. May God bless, protect and keep you two in His love for ever.
Thank you for posting these videos! The American broadcaster doesn’t make Pyeongchang replays available so this is great to watch. Better than them anyway since no one is yapping constantly about the technical side and detracting from enjoyment of watching their broadcasts.
I cried when I watched this, thank you. It is so beautiful !
same music used by Grinkov and Gordeeva in their pair free dance in 1994 olympics. Both wonderful.
Grazie! Siete veri campioni! Per me siete numero uno.
They're just beautiful !
O I love them! I love when he takes a knee! When they do it together the ice SIZZLES!🔥
Thanks for the video. I've been looking for it for the past 10 minutes!!
2:24 That following spin is so powerful, majestic, wonderful
La magnifique miniature résume à elle seule la beauté unique de cette danse. Il y a Papadakis-Cizeron et il y a les autres, tous les autres. Je me souviens avoir visionné cette vidéo au moment des JO, il y a plus de 3 ans, au moment de la guerre des fans hystériques avec Virtue-Moir. C'est bien la première fois que j'ai vu les fans des vainqueurs être aussi haineux vis-à-vis des seconds.
I'm Greek and very proud of papadakis!!!
Thanks for being the 1st to post this wonderful performance! ♥
Fantastic Performance
A bit strange - a new record but the title was won by others - for me the winners are Gaby and Guillaume - that dance will go down in history and they will also - the best dancing couple in the world ...
Quel bonheur de les voir patiner sur cette superbe sonate !!! Ils sont formidables !!! Je regrette qu'ils n'aient pas eu l'or mais les canadiens étaient remarquables !!!
That was simple beautiful. Absolute classical choreografie to classical music. Clean lines, delicate, allready perfection of using the egde of skates. Remember me/give vibes how have skated legendary Navka/Kostomarov to classic music. This couple have ice dance figures, what I call Standart: they are both high, have long legs and artistic arms. I'm really sorry for them, that the SD had those problems with wardrobe and twizzles misteakes. When they have cleen SD, they will have won gold and will deserves. that. Canadian are really great, but my opinion-this couple have a reaaly good chances for next Olympics, if they will continue like that. The best programm on this Olympics for me.
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YOU'RE BLIND TOO, WOW!
wow, how shallow to judge a team by describing their looks as standard: p/c being tall, long legged and long armed. i guess ice dance federations should begin pruning their ranks of teams who don't have the height, long legs nor long arms, even if they have both the technical and dancing goods. *ehem, the shibs? maya certainly doesn't have long legs nor long arms nor the height. maybe she shouldn't be an ice dancer ;)
I agree :) they have a physical appearance that helps their elegant dance, all long and elegant. It is not discrimination, it is description. Some people like musculate tough looking people, some prefer thin classical and graceful people. They represent the ultimate elegance for a french person. I'll wait for them at the next Olympics!
Une telle élégance est rarissime, cela ne m'étonne pas qu'ils ne reçoivent que des compliments sur leur grâce par les professionnels. On se rappellera d'eux dans l'histoire de la dance sur glace grâce à leur style particulier
Gia Kourlas for NYT ...wrote about this FD !!!
When a program shows 2 bodies moving as only one ...like doing by P/C ...suddently the competition is a window towards 1 other space , 1 other time , strange , quiet , floating and memorable .
And C Pinard , their choregraph said ....we want to see , it's not them nor Beethoven it's the meeting both ...
Yesterday P/C won the gold medal for the world championships ...with 3 records : SD, FD , and combine .....
I wrote in a precedent post : P/C will be the precursors in ice dance ....now i hope it will be soon !!
Cizeron 和 Papadakis 让我爱上了冰舞。。 他们所呈献的 ‘舞蹈’ 是那么的优美，感人，对我而言更多的是爱的共鸣。纵使我不是很了解冰舞的技术难度，但他们细腻的 ‘演绎‘ 确实不是每一对冰舞运动员都有的艺术特质。我个人特别喜欢他们在 2016 World Championships 的自由舞 - Build a Home, 愿祝他们能将这份美好的艺术传承下去。
i am a VM fan ...but this routine is magical...they are so beautiful..so is their performance..cizeron's moves are so precise and synchronised
Sabarna Das
toronto girl girl what?
Those seats behind the judges cost $550US per seat per session. Nose bleed seats were $185US per person per session. It's outrageous the pricing.
3Axel1996 That probably explains all the empty seats in the arena.
Very disappointing Olympics. I believe lowest viewership ever.
The seats were all sold out. This happens at every Olympics.
So pure , so perfect beautiful..thankyou such a pleasure to watch in a world that is becoming more nasty by the day...
Как я болела за них!!! Жаль, что не первые!
Oh god I found it so emotional act
Wonderful, graceful and I love the flow of the costumes. They did well with the music BUT their edges - Gabby's in particular and extensions are not quite what i would hope for with this music and look. I have no idea how they did so well in the short dance forget the wardrobe malfunction but technically there were bobbles and artistically this team does not have the magic of Virtue and Moir or Chock and Bates. They can get away a bit more in the Free dance but the short dance the chem was not there. Still I am amazed after what seemed the fix was in and that the judges wanted to give it to them. They gave it to the right team - Virtue and Moir much to my surprise. Still lovely free dance.
Oh, thank you for mentioning their technical skills. I totally agree, I don't know why people seem to think they're better technical skaters than the canadians. They skate almost the entire program on 2 feet, . They're are unison, but their free leg seems to be just thrown out, not extended, like they can't wait to put it down, so they can be back on 2 feet again. At times, it looks quite messy . As to artistic merit, me. It's been done forever by the Russians, nothing new here.
North americans be sour cause they know they robbed this.
Amazing! Just amazing! So delicate, and so powerful.... Perfect for the choice of music, which is sublime, of course!
Delicate, don't you mean with barely any difficulty?
You can skate like that? Please tell me where. I will come and watch.
NOW THERE'S AN EDUCATED RESPONSE...ILMAO! AVEUGLE?
@VIRTUAL WORLD DISORDER REALITY CHECK HAVEN
I am a Canadian and a fan of V/M. Stop insulting people just for the fun of it. It is disgraceful and uncall for. And don't come back with the excuse that the French are doing the same thing on the V/M video because my answer will be: Be more respectful of yourself (and of Tessa and Scott), and don't put you to their level.
People have the right to prefer the style of dancing of P/C. And it's not true that their program was not difficult. In fact, the base value of the executed elements was exactly the same as V/M for the FD.
She is just jealous, that judges prefer P./c and find them better skaters
They are the future of dance. That night belonged to the Greatest Dance Team Of All Time
Oh, Torvill and Dean were in PyeongChang? Must've missed that.
This was gorgeous! V&M may be legends but these two made them work for it and earn it!
They totally messed up their twizzles and we're not in unison in the short. That's why they were rightfully scored lower. It is a shame that their fans cannot accept a loss and continue to perpetuate the myth that it was due to a wardrobe malfunction
They got a higher score than the Canadians for this piece. I think Moir and virtue got a 122.40 and these guys got a 123.35 for their free dance aka this one. The Canadians were 1.7 points ahead after the short program already. So they took the gold by a fraction! I mean I frickin loved the moulin rouge piece, that was their free dance, that was amazing! But just to let you know. Technically these guys scored a tiny bit higher here. I mean the level of artistry and technique is sublime for both couples anyway!
How would you perform your twizzles with your top coming off and exposing your breast at a time where everything is mocked on social medias and knowing you have to go on ? Acknowledge that it messed with Gabby and that her mind was on the program AND on trying to keep her top on herself. Whether or not it's the origin of the mistakes, only Gabriella can know for sure. For the rest of us, we can only speculate.
Their fault. Wardrobe is a part of being a figure skater. Dumb mistake to make and it cost them. Oh well. V/M are superior anyway.
Their fault ? How is it their fault ? Gabriella can't turn around her head at 180 degrees to see if it's ok. They had someone to take care of that. She did not. Since the accident, Guillaume is the one to sew the costumes. If someone is responsible, it's that lady in charge of the costumes who, obviously, missed something. Besides, they have a coaching team for that. If skaters could do everything themselves, there would be no coaching team. Everyone failed them and one can wonder if this was not on purpose. Besides, please, don't make statements like "V/M are superior". Scores during the olympic season say otherwise. And in the end, it came down to the skaters who were the cleanest. It happened to be V/M. But at the GPF, it was P/C. It was close.
You are misunderstanding at least in my case. I just wish that rivalry would come to a 4 clean skates from both teams. That type of malfunction occurring right at he most important competition of the quad? Big shame. Canadians deserved to win but I just wish it would happen in a competition without this.
В фигурном катании какое-то свое специфическое судейство... Считаю, что они должны были получить золотую медаль. Этот танец уникален по своей проникновенности жестов и музыки.
It's so beautiful! It literally made me cry!
I know, it was so slow and lame... except for that 1 spin!
a cry of boredom
Me too! Apparently not everyone understands the concept of elegance. For me it's the same difference between Moses Pendleton and Alvin Ailey or Philippe Découflé.. One is athletic (yes very well executed) and one is only beauty you can't feel any effort because there is no show of capacities, only dancing for art. Very different things. The same people who don't go watch contemporary dance is not gonna like Papadakis and Cizeron...
how did they score so close with V/M in the SD with a botched twizzle and no deductions on wardrobe malfunctions ?
Because the twizzles were not botched and the malfunction wasn't enough for a deduction. Read the rules, thanks.
Ha. Those twizzles were a mess. The lift was off and the whole skate was tentative. I won't even comment on the silly pop song they chose to skate through -- all the way through. It's an exhibition number! They do not skate as one. He is SO much better than she is. This should have been 5th after the short dance.
well, overall, it was not a great olympic memory to treasure. i know they were not even happy with their scores in the SD because they know for a fact they were a mess. false achievement.
the ice turns into gold while they skate? WOW! how brilliant. no wonder they got silver.
Because of the wardrobe malfunction the previous day adds up to their current points (points gained from free skate)
That's exactly what beauty really is. Thank you for posting it, G&G are gold in my heart ❤
They’re p/c and not Gand G. Have some respect for Gordeeva and Grinkov.
Poor Gorrdeeva and Grinkov compared to that...
I know right?
that as you say is one beautiful and elegant danse, effortless and flying on the ice, I've never felt such emotions while watching ice dancing. It may not be as technical as you want it to be but I feel like I'm not the only one touched by their performances. You're entitled to your opinion only
Who are you to tell who they are ?
Yawn, the shib sibs should've gotten at least silver. This skate is more of a bronze performance
Just because they skated to classical music doesn't mean it's boring!
Sublime.
It was genuinely lovely but I did not think the routine was Olympics worthy. I think they are capable of much more. The audience reaction was not nearly as enthusiastic as it was for V/M. Of course, P/C are much younger and have not had nearly the experience that V/M have. I hope that their coaches will give them more demanding programs in the future. They need to do more than just "lovely", at which they excel.
First time watching this. Moonlight Sonata is the gold medal of piano music. I could nick pick their performance, but it was a beauty to watch.
A Fan
It is amazing that they can turn this sport to a ballet on ice. For those, who don't appreciate this artistry, I bet they can't do it themselves, lol!
+Derek To AND CAN YOU? can you do what p/c does? much less v/m's? let's see it then ;)
If I could, I would achieve at least a medal at the 2018 Winter Olympic Games, lol. I am not comparing or judging g/g against anyone. I am talking the arts of the sport. Please don't be prejudiced by your support for v/m.
+Derek To by saying "For those, who don't appreciate this artistry, I bet they can't do it themselves", then you are being prejudiced as to the skills of the fans/viewers who watch ice dance, but not necessarily appreciate p/c's "artistry". like i said, can you even do what p/c is doing? and besides, none of us casual fans are actual judges of this sport, but we can do CRITICAL THINKING of the sport aspect of this discipline, right? do we have to have the skills to be able to do some critical thinking of this sport?
I entitle to my opinion and you entitle to yours. I don't think much of people, who said that certain skaters are boring or overrated. In the spirit of the Olympic games, it is not about getting a metal but the fortitude in participation and the courage to perform in one's best ability. You can do as much Critical thinking of the sport aspect of this discipline, please don't be critical of those had the fortitude and courage to perform, presenting their countries. If you don't have the skills to comment on skaters, it is best to leave it to the judges at the Olympic Games. Judges at the Games are there for a reason, right!
and just comment on "artistry?" hahahaha this is a sport, not just "ballet" on ice. and can you do ballet yourself so you can say you're more "credible" at commenting on the "artistry" of ice dance?
I found it interesting that P and C both moved permanently to Montreal Quebec CA, in 2014.
Living in Canada, skating for France.
it was the " similar way " for Marie France Dubreuil and P Lauzon in France ( LYON ) with a coach = Romain Haguenaueur
Lots of athletes train in another country than the one they are competing for. P/C moved to Montreal after their coach, Romain Haguenaueur move there and P/C decided to move with him.
Also , you have Bruno Massot ( gold medal in couple ....) who is french and skating for Germany !!!!
In your country you have a great chance concerning the number of skating stadium ....in France ; we have just a skating stadium in the biggest cities ......and they are public with priority for school the week and families the weekend .....
We are a " Football " country ....all the skaters must go away for training .....it's the raison for what a medal is very important for us ....a good request ;more money for the federation
Thanks for the Information.
I know that skaters go where the best coaches are.
That would probably be Canada, Russia and Japan?
I was rooting for C/ P at the Olympics. Im not a fan of V/M.
Cizeron is imo the best male ice dancer today; My other favorite was Charlie White.
Izza same coaches as V&M
The big win to Canadian coaching and choreography 😘. Brilliant couple
I loved the emotional performance, you could tell that she was really feeling the music and performance!
Graceful with perfection till the end......bravo ***
A year later and I'm still thinking they were the champion😢💕
they were. and they are real winners of the worlds 2017. canadian corruption cam made +3 for fall on step sequence.
Put them good vibes to your hearts fans & never let any evil dare to harm you Ok? Skating makes life worth living
How did they get the highest score ever? There was an obvious mistake in their twizzles. Also, I would say their strength is more on the technical side. Artistically they are rather dull. Compare their artistry to some of the greats from the 1990s for example, like Usova/Zhulin or Klimova/Ponomarenko, and there is no comparison.
mistake on the twizzles for SD ....here they talk about the FD ....you write too quickly !!!
After you can' t compare the notes between 1990 and now ...because the rules of ISU changed at the beginning of 2000...
Also for me the difference between Usola /Zhulin or other ...is the speed on ice ....i think also the material change , the technology changed also ...
Usola /Zhulin or Klimova /ponomarenko...i agreed they was great champions ....but the skating is different ...like for exemple ....Katarina Witt and Alina Zagitova ....it's different but also 2 great skaters ...
I was referring to a mistake in the twizzles here in the FD. In their third twizzle they were out of sync.
Extraordinary !!!you are the only one person who see a mistake on these twizzles ...neither journalists , nor tv reporters , nor judges , nor youtubers on this forum ( 750 ) saw that ....
either you don't know nothing in ice dance , or you are blind , or you are just a dirty troll who , said some stupidities and lies and puts her shit on the forum ???
but your opinion is uselessand without arguments ..
Manick pause at 1:08 and you can see they are out of sync. They are overscored in GOEs.
It's not a match of football with a video .....now if you want to play this game ....i can see again the V/M videos with the problems on the twizzles and always overscored ......your are'nt fair .....and also not judges , or journalists , or tv reporters ......
Bravissimi!
Moonlight sonata and the dancers both amazing.
Класа.грация.вълшебство!Прекрасни!💖
Yawn..... I don't get the big deal.
yeah better look at the corny shit from v.m right? with stupid faces from scott.those fake orgasm faces. go back to your blog and hate on P/.c theres , v.m uber !OK? , fucking loser!hihi
fucking moron.
Monica P/ S are boring loosers . They are moving like my grandpa and grandpa on the ice. Are they 22 @23.?and yes I better with go and watch V/M again. So sexy:)
Sorry my grandma @grandpa
Monika Tadam Why the overreaction? Can't anyone express their opinions? They didn't like it, they didn't like it. Simple as that. Really, you sound like a petulant child when you attack someone like that for simply expressing their thoughts
C'est émouvant tellement c'est beau. On dirait qu'ils volent à l'unisson. On dirait deux voiles au-dessus des glaces.
Does not compare to Scott Moir and Tessa Virtue's performance.
it's your advice ....please read the paper in new-york times about P/C program ....!!!!
The jo are over ....V/M are retired .....could you turn the page ???
My comment above is my personal opinion from what I have watched! I'm not sure what advice you're talking about and btw, I don't need to read any paper, newspaper for that matter to voice my opinion and like what I like.
Enough said, I'm not stooping down to your level.
I'm sick to read dirty comme ts about V/M. They won and thats it. They are two times Olympic champions. P/ S are loosers. I'm sure their time is over. I cant stand to watch those boring provrams anymore.
Quante emozioni !!!! Grandissimi
Same trolls on every skating video comment section.
Bravo!!!!!!
O ballet sobre gelo desse casal, é bonito,, é uma graça, é leve, suave, é de uma beleza incrível, a sincronia é perfeita, adoro vê-los bailar 🥰🥰👏👏👏👏❤❤⛸⛸🇧🇷🇧🇷
Hermosa música!!!!
CLARO DE LUNA del genio BEETHOVEN.
👏👏👏👏👏
Bravo!!!!!!
I thought nothing could top their 2016 free dance for me, but this just might do it...
thank you Xue Zhang from Rodos-Greece
Is a shame what happened in the short program with the wardrobe malfunction. They are exquisite and a joy to watch. Ice dancing is about the lines, telling a story, about emotion and technique and this couple has all of the above. They are still young and hopefully will have another chance for olympic gold.
It's not about emotion, it's about a blade on ice... they will be overscored in future for sure! don't worry, they're not going to round up EUROPEAN JUDGES and kill them all, sadly...
Really? You are a sore fan of the winner? Why? Because Papadakis and Cizeron set another world record in the FD and beat Virtue and Moir in the FD? Do you realize that your comments diminish Virtue and Moir's win? For a fan of the winners to feel compelled to diss the silver medalists says a lot about your character. I am not an expert. But I do know that ice dance commentators always comment about P/C's blades on ice and the fact that in their routines they cover much more of the ice than do most ice dancers. So I doubt that you are any kind of expert in ice dance. But since 2014, I have noticed this about a significant minority of Virtue and Moir's fans. They are mean spirited and find it necessary to diss competitors even when Virtue and Moir are not competing. V/M fans did this to Davis and White when D/W competed on DWTS. And V/M fans did this to Papadakis and Cizeron during 2015 and 2016 even though V/M were not competing. And when D/W won the gold in 2014, they were dissed by V/M fans over and over and over again. I enjoy reading comments, and "no" I have not observed the fans of other ice dance couples be as mean spirited and so persistently mean spirited towards other ice dancers as are V/M's fans.
DONT TALK TO THAT BITCH...she is jealous, every time ... In FS everyone is overscored beside Teass and scott, those lousy , slow skaters who have programs like corny , cheap, tacky tv show , they are fanatics, they hate on p/c eveywhere, even on those events where v.m arent in. tjey will be hating on them until they will stop skating, they are jealous losers
Keep telling yourself that....
Tessa Virtue, Scott Moir Free Dance at Winter Olympics | Pyeongchang 2018
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Chopin music was perfect background for their dance.
yes !!!i agreed !!
Beethoven
Canadians in ice dance: The French pair have an easier routine ice dance is not about speed or art it's about big difficult skills
Canadians in ladies' singles: The Russians have more difficult programs but it's not about jumps it's about speed and art
As a Canadian, I am throughly confused by the hypocrisy of certain comments. I for one enjoy them all for their differences, but think difficult and execution of elements should be more important in singles and pairs, where as art, speed, and fluidity should be valued more in dance, as the title itself is an art. Of course being the best in all aspects is ideal but that's not the case with any skater; they all have their strengths and weaknesses.
For the world championship 2018 in Milan ; they won the gold medal but with 3 records ....SD , FD , and total ....i think if their skating was so easely ...it could 'nt be possible ....
V/M was great champions ....they made a great career ....now it's seems to me ....we must turn the page ...and sincerely their " cunniliftus " not missing me !!!!
And for me i love your young skater Kaetlyn Osmond wonderfull in black swan ....a gold medal well deserved , bravo
Chills, the Canadians were great and deserved the gold, but they don't give me chills like these two do. My wife say's I'm a softy though :):):).
French would have win the gold, it would have been the same, they deserved a gold medal. The Canadian won only cause of the canadian judge in the Free. (No french judge and canadian judge didn t give a single 10 to the french but 4 to the canadian, others judges gave an average 3.3 times a 10 to the french (each judge give 5 marks))
@Cedric L Except that there are only 7 scores that count for the final score. The highest and lowest score are not taken into account, so the score from the Canadian judge did not count.
Maybe your gay and looking at him... she's a so so skater...
Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir’s Free Dance in Team Figure Skating | Pyeongchang 2018
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Cizeron and Papadakis 2018 PyeongChang Olympic free dance new world record 123.35
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that about sums it up!
well , but i think in Canada the " temperature is MINUS ....it's cold ....and for me it's good in the south of France we have sun and a spring temperature ....also ...i prefer to be out of my home ....sorry for you !!!
VIRTUAL WORLD DISORDER REALITY CHECK HAVEN you are looking at the figures for which video ? The CBC ? Those videos are limited per IOC broadcast regulations . We do not have access in Canada to US or French or other broadcasts , so your comparison is entirely pointless. What exactly is your point ?
At this moment we have the european cup of football ....in europe no photo between Foot and ice dance ....
also your comparaison is false .....
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Самая лучшая пара, последних 20 лет! Божественны!!! Специально занизили баллы, чтобы канадцы в общей сумме опередили их, не справедливо! Политика и в спорт полезла !
Kiki49 im ne za izili a povysili baly. Osobenno v korotko tance.
M K вы в фигурном катании хорошо разбираетесь? Вы видели как скальзят французы?на харошей скорости мягко, нежно легко и непринужденно! Вот за это и ставят высокие баллы!
I'm familiar with moonlight sonata but I'm not sure with the story behind the music and that's why I'm not sure about their interpretation of it.
That being said their dance is elegant and smooth, but I think some moves didn't match the music. (Or it's only me?)
There were wild and fast piano beats but their movements were a little... calm? and there are smooth tunes but their movements were...wild. If they could just exchange some parts, then it'll be sublime. :) Because of those, I feel less emotion from this piece compared to the Shib sibs (it was fun!) or Virtue-Moir (that made me cry the first time I've watched them on YT few days ago, to be honest)
Anyway, I'll resume my time in my rabbit hole watching figure skating (this is the first time I've gotten engaged in the sport!)
Julia : in fact this sonata have a story .....when Beethoven wrote this pièce of piano .....he was very sad and depressive after a love affair without future for a young Austrian countess ( 17 old for her 40 old and more for him )
and in the same time he became deaf .....very hard for a musician !!!
I think P/C translate perfectly the sadness and also the romantism ( we are in 19 century it's the romantic period in Europa )
For me the traduction of music on ice dance is a perfect moment , i see no P/C nor Beethoven but both in the same story .
I'm not hugely into skating but howd they get silver??? The shib sibs at least matched the intensity of their music and twizzled better than this couple. This was highkey a let down bc of the chemistry too :/ but still elegant.
It was pretty obvious to people who know about skating. Shib sibs are not even close to as good as P/C. Sorry to blow your reality.
@@dimapoc5853 I would disagree. She has some sloppy edges in this
@@jena5634 Well he makes up for that. Also the shibsibs dont have as nice choreography.
@@articello they're a team. If people want to hail them as brilliant they should both be sharp. And I would disagree with that
I highly doubt that 12 points was just a fluke.
Wonderful.....
Thank so much
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I must be biased as I'm French (sorry 'bout it) but I don't get the hate? like, we know who was part of the jury and truly, if they were to be biased, they would have been more likely to root for the Canadians than the French. So their scoring was most likely based on the artistry and grace of the French compared to the spectacular elements of the Canadians (as many other comments have pointed out). Anyway, I enjoyed both performances for different reasons and I don't understand how some people here think it's relevant to undermine and hate over one's performance in order to confirm their preference for the competitor. Please consider the hard work and dedication of each!
Totally agree. It's like arguing about which color is the best color. Does not make any sense. Some people like blue, others like red, others like green... No preference of one color is better than the other, it's a personnal thing. And all colors can be beautiful!
Don't let the trolls get the better of you, they are not worth it. As I said in another comment I can't understand that such a graceful, beautiful and artistic sport can bring so much ugliness in the comment section.
Love from Canada :)
Izza well said. I really ought to not even read the comments, they bring out the worst in me, I feel the need to put them in their place. And I do it regardless of where you’re from or who you may be blindly rooting for. The comments are ridiculous and revolting. I don’t really care if a stranger insults me, they mean nothing to me, but I can’t sit back and let them insult a skater, especially personally. I wish they would simply disable comments, in the absence of a moderator. The ISU has issued a statement about such comments on their Instagram publications. You would think people would use the comments sections of social media videos to ask questions, share information, etc. Instead we are treated to a show of histrionics and conspiracy theories. Its very toxic if one is not careful, as I have learned
isn't it the same under V/M videos? let the haters and trolls be haters and trolls it is impossible to educate them. I love to read comments under a P/C video from you ( obviously V/M fans) that are kind and respectful. ( what doesn't mean that you have to like their performances, of course)
Izza :
About the comments. In general, the rave reviews are in the foreground, the hostile comments are only contradictory answers. In contradiction we find everything, from a respectful advice to insults that even evoke the physical dancers. It seems less tiring to counter arguments than to produce them initially. Your response not to be influenced is legitimate, but you will agree to recognize that it is a strong pollution very harmful to our pleasure to exchange our opinions and impressions. Cordially (from France).
A propos des commentaires. De façon générale, les commentaires élogieux sont au premier plan, les commentaires hostiles ne sont que des réponses contradictoires. Dans la contradiction on trouve de tout, cela va d'un avis respectueux jusqu'aux insultes qui évoquent même le physique des danseurs. Il semble moins fatiguant de contrer des arguments que d'en produire initialement. Votre réponse de ne pas se laisser influencer est légitime, mais vous serez d'accord à reconnaitre qu'il s'agit d'une forte pollution très néfaste à notre plaisir d'échanger nos avis et impressions. Cordialement
Good job filming; thanks
Personally, this does not get to me. I disliked the music. Technically, they looked sharp AF. They are gorgeous dancers. I think so too they were overmarked in the SD, since the twizzles were not great. I am not sure the dress directly impacted the score, but definitely caught them off guard. In the end, it was a tight match between two power houses. Came down to tiny little details. No one should be ashamed of these results!
they were not overmarked, their Personnal Best is higher than that.... So technically the Canadian that beat their PB (for a lot) and french thet don t hit it, it was good marks for both. But canadian have been overmarked at Free yes for sure and french undermarked. When a pair win only because of the marks of one judge who is the judge of their own country, you can easily say they ve been overmarked and even if the canadian deserve a gold medal, here you can say that the french have been roobed. Canadian were better in Original but French were better in Free. At the world the french beated the canadian with almost 3 pts more than them.
If you actually look at the detail scores, you would notice that the scores the canadian judge gave the French is in the same line as the other judges gave. Only one place is she the lowest scoring for a specific element. In any others, other judges had agreed with them. Second, their short dance was nowhere near the canadians. Third, a lot comes with the impression of the judges. Some liked the interpretation of the Canadians best, some the French. Seeing people argue here, it is obvious that it's not black and white. It's a judged sport, so it's about opinions. The French got better marks in the FD. They won that, but their SD was a slumb and that's why they got second. It's that easy. Stop making excuses about the Canadian judge. Look at the score, you might find a conspiracy, because other judges also gave them bad scores. We can also comment on the Turkish judge that gave shit all to the Canadians. Is that a judge influenced by the French? Conspiracies are usually made up. Even the French couple agreed with the scores. You would think they know better.
Didier Gailhaguet has a lot of credibility. Hahahahhaha. The Japanese judge gave V/M higher scores than the Canadian judge. P/C totally messed up their short dance and were hugely over marked despite it. The total score should never have been as close as it was. Be grateful for their silver medal, it was a gift. If you want to know who the best skaters are ask the coaches and other skaters. They will all tell you it's Virtue and Moir. P/C are starring in a new show; it's called Mannequins on Ice. Bring your own emotion because they don't provide any. Hahahahhaha.
Marc Beaulieu
Beethoven doesn't need your approval of his music, if you are aware of who is he, of course )))))
And the French and US judges gave the Canadians much lower scores than the rest of the panel. V/M didn't win b/c of any one judge's marks, but they certainly won despite the marks of two judges. On what planet does the short dance not count? Why are you acting like it's all about the free dance - which by the way, I would have given to V/M. It's a two part competition and the French messed up the short. And as for the PB of P/C in the short? Up until the Olympic year, they never got higher than 78 and usually in the mid-70s. Isn't it interesting that ALL of a sudden in the Olympic year, they start to get marks over 80 in the SD for a short dance everybody agrees is ridiculous or at best lame. The Shibutanis, with whom I am not enamoured did a better job. P/C are lucky they weren't 7 or 8 points behind after the short because they surely deserved to be.
💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
So refined! so so good. They ARE #1
No they're not!!! ruclips.net/video/8gJEZQXuHIA/видео.html&feature=share
I think the performance by Katya Gordeeva and Sergei Grinkov to the Moonlight Sonata is vastly superior to PC's performance. Everything about G&G's performance was exquisite--hairstyle, costumes, choreography, musicality, emotion, elegance of line, synchronicity. G&G's performance was so special, that I would not choose this music if I were part of an ice dance or pairs team today, knowing that people would compare. There is no comparison. PC's costumes look too old fashioned and like they could be purchased at a local department store. P's hair by the end of the dance looked like a rat's nest. Was she trying to be sexy or something? It greatly distracted from the performance.
Given their choice of costume for the SD fiasco, I think they should do what Nancy Kerrigan did for her Olympic performances. Nancy had Vera Wang, one of the top designers in the world, make her costumes. They were absolutely beautiful, classical, and emphasized Nancy's long, elegant lines. There is no excuse for a costume malfunction at the Olympics. This is not Ice Capades. It reminded me of Tonya Harding's broken shoe lace in her Olympic long program.
I first saw Papadakis' short dance outfit at an earlier competition when it didn't break. I thought it was one of the ugliest costumes I'd ever seen. It looked like a grass skirt and top, like she was going to dance the hula. It was suppose to be the samba or some other latin dance? Go to the You Tube video of Virtue and Moir doing the samba--wow! That is the samba on ice! V and M danced another latin routine, the flamenco, for their original dance at the Olympics in 2010--now that is how you do a latin routine. I think it is still one of the very best ice dance performances I have ever seen.
People say the French are lyrical. I can see that to a point, but, again, go to Torvill and Dean's Bolero performance and their subsequent performances. Dean did the choreography. Now that is lyricism.
I wish PC the best in the future, but I really think they need help in many areas. They are French, home of the best clothing designers in the world. Get help. Get help with hairstyle, choreography, emotion. C showed no emotion; P looked like she was in angst the entire time. They are so young; why do they look old on ice?
I so agree with you Peggie Flemming. Well said! I hope they will emprove in tbe future. I really hope. Do floatig movements under a magic music is not enough to be Olympic champions. Both their dances were overscored. I don't understand why their fans are complaining. They got more that they deserved.
"They are so young; why do they look old on ice?" that's true, in The Skating Lesson ice dance recap, Sandra Bezic mentioned that V/M managed to make Moulin Rouge felt way fresher than Moonlight Sonat even though it's overused.
Their attitude is also a turn off, they think they're too self important to improve, and trying a new style is beneath them. That's why as a fan it's difficult for me to like them.
in this case could you explain the 3 records for the world championships 2018 ....SD; FD ; Total ....
the costumes are the same ; the choregraphy idem .....but the skating and emotion are better and better ....you could hear the tv comments ....not french tv ....but british , or spain , or US .....they deserved well these 3 records and the gold medal ....
For OG , it was for V/M a Pyrrhus victory , victory by default , yes they skated their 2 programs very well ....but without the costume problem in SD .....P/C won the gold !!!! 0,79 points .....is not a great victory !!!!
Peggy ...the J Torvill and C Dean 's costumes for the Bolero are " HORRIBLE " !!! The choregraphy was very good and C Dean a great skater .....please could you remember .....C Dean is the P/C 's choregraphe and also for a part in S/Massot programs ......this season ....he was the best !!!!
Hi Manick, The T/D costumes for the Bolero were revolutionary at the time. It was 1984, and up until then ice dancing looked like ballroom dancing or Vaudeville--really corny stuff. For Bolero, their costumes were inspired by Romeo and Juliet-type attire. Everyone thought they were beautiful; I still do. The choreography was revolutionary as well--it changed ice dance forever. Dean elevated the sport to art. For a later routine, he composed the music and hired a 40 piece orchestra to record it. I know C Dean is the P/C choreographer and if he continues to be, I wish them all success. So much of this is personal preference--I just haven't connected yet to P/C.
GOLD
La médaille d'or olympique ne vaut malheureusement rien en patinage à force de triche systématique depuis toujours. L'esprit même des jeux en est trahi. Donc ne pas se fier au classement mais juste au plaisir d'admirer tous ces sportifs qui se depassent pour le plaisir. Le leur et celui de leur public.
Sublime ♥️♥️
V/M can make any dance their own.
Their own, right. Bad. I love Moulin Rouge and they killed it. Literally.
En programme libre, ce sont vraiment les meilleurs aucun doute ! Je trouve scandaleux qu'une Présidente de Fédération soit autorisé à juger lorsque ses patineurs jouent une finale olympique ! Je comprends maintenant l'attitude arrogante des canadiens !
Ce ne sont pas tout les canadiens qui sont arrogants. Tu ne peux pas généraliser l'attitude de tout les canadiens par les commentaires de trolls qui se trouve sur RUclips. Il y a autant de commentaires de trolls français dans les vidéos de V/M. C'est une guerre enfantine de sans esprit. La majorité des canadiens respectent les athlètes des autres pays et leurs "fans". Tu n'as certainement pas lu certains commentaires que j'ai posté antérieurement sous cette vidéo...
Izza , je dois reconnaitre votre fair-play et votre justesse d' analyse .....sans renier vos préférences , ce qui est tout a fait a votre honneur ....vous gardez l' esprit ouvert merci ....
Joly Patricia +izza +manick Patricia ... l’arrogance, l’impolitesse, le mépris , ne sont pas l’apanage d’un seul pays. Ce genre de comportement ne connaît pas de frontière, c’est comme pour le racisme. Pour ce qui est d’une juge présidente de fédération, c’est un règlement de la ISU. Ceux qui y voient une manœuvre ou manigance de Patinage Canada sont de mauvaise foi. Le juge français, ou russe, ou américain aurait pu être président de sa fédération. Cela ne veut pas dire que cette personne soit automatiquement incapable de remplir sa fonction première de juge, dans l’impartialité. On a déjà vu des juges d’autres pays subir l’influence de leur président de fédération, avec tous les jeux de coulisses associés aux olympiques. Cela était monnaie courante à l’époque de l’ex URSS.
Pour moi les jeux sont finis ...inutile de parler des règles pour les jo 2018 ....comme je l' ai écrit V/M ont fait le job ...2 programmes parfaits techniquement ....je n' aime pas leur patinage ...mais c'est mon avis et il vaut ce qu'il vaut et n' engage que moi ...
Par contre ce qui serait a mon sens perfectible dans le futur serait pour l' ISU d' améliorer ....peut être la composition du jury ( les 3 derniers couples médaillables n' auraient pas de juge de leur pays pour la FD ....
Il son super bien patiner
поэзия музыки по глади ледяной ....Эстетический Катарсис..!!!!........
Dear person who videoed this, don’t keep zooming in and out next time :) Stay zoomed in and track them. It will make for a smoother video for you to watch later on. This is motion sickness inducing. Not trying to be rude. ^^” Very thankful for the post regardless.
For me, technicality they were slightly better than virtue and moir. But for chemistry on the ice not a chance comparing to virtue and moir. Thats just me😊😊😊
lol is that a joke? Chemistry is C&P's strongest point
I think I remember seeing 1 million memes and news articles about C&P’s chemistry come to think about it.... 😏 😂
I prefer this program and the music; I just wish they had better or she had better edges and slightly better lines. They do have magic but so do the Canadians. For some reason though he does not have the male lead though romantic figure persona. But I like them; just think overall the right team won - not a V and M fan either lol. Sometimes I hate what Scott says.
Kim Udang. I agree. There is no chemistry between P/S. When you look at V/M you see woman and man dancing on the ice. Here I don't see it. Just a routine under beautiful music and nothing else.
People with bad taste will never cease to amaze me.. that's why Canadians are nowhere in Fashion, Art, Architecture, Litterature, Music (should I remind you of...Justin freakin Bieber?) et cetera, et cetera.
I don’t want to offend anyone with my opinion, but I wasn’t really excited or “on the edge of my seat” at all when watching this routine. I love moonlight sonata, but this routine was just ok for me.
Le couple français méritait largement la médaille d'or olympique
For me better France and Russia, Guillaume and Gaby are divine
Exquisite
Can't help but notice that V/M fans seem to go on every P/C video out there to brag about how the Canadians are better and the French don't deserve praise... Have you got nothing better to do ? Your favs won gold, why are you out there jumping at the throat of people who enjoy and/or prefer P/C performances ??
same with p/c fans, most especially p/c trolls ;)
lightwood_m you obviously haven’t been on any Virtue and Moir vidéo since last year, with the exception of the Olympics, where most videos are restricted due to broadcasting rights. Have a look at the comments from the French commentators. Canada or any other country doesn’t have exclusivity on vulgarity and meanness
Dustin Gabe This comment has been flagged for the most obvious reasons. Reprehensible. No human being with a soul or a brain would write such a comment. I will be following up with Google to insist that your account be shut down. There is no place for this. Here or elsewhere
Boo hoo, cry me a river, get lost and go to the video of your beloved Scott Doucher and Tessa Virtue.
Dustin Gabe BOOHOO bitter loser p/c fans nyahahaahaha! can't even come up with technical reasons why p/c should be superior to v/m. bitter loser p/c fans booohoooohoooo
The best should win
To person who thinks "this sport has always been at this level of difficulty lol" I say, first cut out the lol nonsense and second, watch the sport as it was just four years ago in Sochi 2014 and the back to Vancouver in 2010. If you can't see how the sport has fallen in difficulty then pls wear a new pair of eyeglasses ( spectacles to the ones with an education).
shut the hell up you absolute moron
V/M can easily skate to Moonlight Sonata and it would be glorious. But can you imagine P/C skate to Moulin Rouge? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
they'll obviously look funny. who will their characters be? the Dance Instructor and the Pimp?
I am a fan of V/M, what is the point of your comment here??
I agree lol. Izza, he is explaining that this couple is not versatile.
J Buda I understood that, don't get me wrong, I am not stupid but why putting such comment? I guess trolls will be trolls...
My point is that P/C fan will continue to prefer the style of P/C no matter what others say just like V/M fans will continue to prefer the style of V/M so why bother?
I wasn’t implying you were. Very true!
J Buda I agree that it would be interesting to see P/C get out of their "comfort zone", push themselves and try new styles at least for the next 3 years and see how they performe. That would help them for their SD too, they are lacking in that part of the competition. Since they have began to win competitions with their classic style they have stick with it.
El gran error de los franceses no participar en el team event, y eso que eran favoritos de los jueces, aquello les pudo ayudar así como V/M usaron esos eventos previos para ensayo y error con los jueces, lo cual corrigieron en el evento final y se llevaron su 2do oro olimpico (bueno 3ro si contamos el del team event)
wow.
Muy Bello
Sorry, I don't speaker trench, but I love Guillaume end Gabriella. They are the best
both couples well skated !!! in fact we have 2 schools in ice dance
first : north- american school who is most " sportive " ...and a european/russian school ; most artistic
after it's difficult to reconcile the 2 styles ....the question in ice dance :
where 's the part of sport ? where's the part of dance ? it's the eternal question and problem
but thank you for your post
@Manick I don't understand why you think V/M are more on the American style school of dance. You seems to forget that they have train for more than 10 years with 2 Russians coach before their 2 years off competition. Marie-France and Patrice trained in France when they were competing so they must have had the French/Russian training, no?
Lindos demais
0:56 song name?
Vanessa James & Morgan Cipres had full houses. Papadakis & Cizrone had surprising low after the "ward robe" mishap. They are absolutely gorgeous and perfect skaters but everybody knew they would not win the competition So sad as they should have I love them
thank you so much for your post !!! for one moment i thought that all north- americain people was racists and the more important was to practise the french bashing .....your are my sunshine for today !!!
Manick I find the French to be glorious. I have found a lady who lives in France and I am trying to get translation from English into French on my Facebook. account but only in the private message. I need it to reverse into English then. The entire French team were treated so poorly in this Olympics.
The French ice skating was the only reason I watched skating this year....though I did think that Javier was awesome. James & Cipres are wonderful skaters that in my opinion were totally ignored and underscored. As were Papadakis & Cizeron. Wish I could make the competition in Milan. Good Luck to them
that is exactly what happened. if the dress malfunction didn't happen maybe ( but maybe not is possible, too- we will never know) they twizzled clearly and they got level4 in the step sequence ( they lost the level because of Gabriella´s bad double twizzle...but to twizzle in balance with a heavy dress that is not close to your body is nearly impossible) but it happened and the tech panel had to call it and so for me the whole competition went fair, although I cheered for the wonderful French team.the outcome of the olys is completely cool.