It is interesting how the amount of kit carried by RegularReserve Armed Forces has increased by 50% over the last 35 years. Even if you chat to people who have been involved in civilian camping for decades they say the same thing. The days when used to camp out in a Argos sleeping bag, and use two bin liners as waterproof barrier, seem to be distant memory.
Excellent. You certainly proved it’s possible to get all that kit in the NI patrol pack like you said. Amazing. I can see you suffered with the weather on this video so thanks, that was exactly what I needed to see 👍
Adds the ability to travel lighter with more comfort and faster if required, carring the same kit. However the down side is it looses the ability to pack the doss bag quickly....all the best bex
Bex, just as an idea, I presume the NI pack was set up to go with belt kit. Those items like the water bottle and jet boyle would have fitted into your belt kit, lots of possibilities. I like the idea with the bivi rolled up. Just out of interest, maybe sometime you can show us a belt kit with the NI pack. With a good hip pad, I always liked the belt kit. The bergen doesn't seem to have advanced with a good waist belt but still it's a great bit of kit, thanks
There are several concluding parts to this coming up soon, one is with a webbing platform as mentioned in the vid. I neither carry water in webbing or the pack, look out for how too on the quick tips soon, and the (Jet Boil) weighs next to nothing in the Ni. The (hip belt) on a bergen are actually (kidney pads). Wrap the pads directly under your lower rib cage, and OVER the TOP of your illiac crest (hip bone) it is buckled up directly over your belly button. Hip pads are squared off and come around your hips and sit a hell of a lot lower, kidney pads, (well sit around your kidneys) hence their strange shape compared to a hip belt. you will be able to drop nearly all the weight off your shoulders completely. I still often see recruits cut their pads off and grunt the weight on their shoulders, thinking they are hip belts that don't work lol. By the way I often can get all my web pouch items into a smock, but don't tell any one....If webbing is more your cup of tea, then check out my mixed webbing (recreational only) NOT COMBAT......ruclips.net/video/h-eJP8hg1XA/видео.html
Excellent Information Brother! Thanks for the Info You Are Teaching Us . I. Know it's Helped me. Never Stop Learning. Have a Great Weekend . Happy Trails. Cheers from Swansea SC.
Keeping the kit but leaving the bergen at home, means an old boy like me gets to travel further in more comfort....lol Stacking the patrol sack like this suits me down to the ground.....keep well bud...bex
I put a tent bag that calculates to 91L in the main compartment it took some force to get it to the bottom. It goes right up to the start of the snow bit you could still pack more on top if you wanted to fill that part making it more than a 90L compartment, thats without counting the 2 pockets in lid and the pocket on the front making it 100L for sure. Then you add the 2 rocket pockets and it's well in a 120L.
Great clip mate very informative, mod get some stick but they are not daft, lighter kit means you can carry extra of what matters. some of the recent stuff is very decent and warm. all best mate thanks for sharing.
ABSOLUTELY AWESOME TO SEE HOW YOU CAN ACHIEVE THE SAME LOADOUT BUT DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION I DID NOT KNOW THAT MTP WAS LIGHTER THEN DPM BECAUSE I HAVE JUST MTP BASHA AND AND BIVVY BAG ALL MY OTHER KIT IS DPM ALWAYS GREAT LEARNINGS TAKE CARE BEX...👌👌✌
Definitely my cup of tea...good timing as well. I'm currently aiming for a sort of bugout/travel/wildcamping kit that could cover most three season situations, i travel a lot(or did!) so it has to be portable and not too out of place in a high street. Ideally a mix of surplus and normal gear that fits into a 30-40lt pack. I have Munro pack which i have added webbing to so i can add pouches, tie/bungy kit on etc, not to disimilar to what you you just did...trying to keep it under 9/10kg though, minus food and water ? Just found you so will flick through your back catologue to see what i can find !! Not long subbed. Look forward to your next one... Cheers from sunny Kent
A muted colored rain shield should provide you with the "Grey-man" effect you desire. Holdals are great for an urban environment , in place of a pack. Food shelter and insulation are your primary items, if you don't over think it, you will be warm dry and well fed with just these basics....thanx for subbin...bex
@@bexbugoutsurvivor Thanks for replying Bex. Yeah, over thinking has cost me a few bob over the years ! Hadn't thought of a holdall...detachable pack straps for the hills maybe..?! Appreciate the input mate ATB Deano, Folkestone
looking forward to seeing the side by side weight comparisons ... and the food you carry. DPM kit is generally more robust, which is where i think the weight difference starts to add up, but there again ... stealth camping/fishing etc ... doesn't really rack up the wear and tear like military usage.
The Dpm has that PU waterproof coating on the inner that adds the wight. I know when I fabsil-ed a canvas tent it added a hell of lot of weight. In two minds weather to keep any of my PLCE bergens, now I have found Berghaus 90+20.....bex
@@bexbugoutsurvivor i'll keep my current modded plce shortback (for winter use) ... i have an all arms bergen i'm going to sell, .... but i do have a berghaus ROC i'm planning to modify (and use as an overnight bag) ... my primary ruck is a wisport 75L ... old father time (going soft) has caught up with me and i eventually decided to modernize and have some comfort, .... sold my beloved large alice, sold my RM Arctic pack, sold my SAS Bergen, sold my marpat ilbe, sold my dutch army lowe alpine, sold my air support bergen, sold a couple of pimped out plce long-backs, From having a huge line up i'm down 4 bergens now. (will eventually have 3) I do have an air crew bergen .... will most likely sell that after i've used it, their not designed with comfort in mind or so i'm told.
Sound like we are a very similar path. Have sold or selling most of my PLCE 100, and am head over heals in love with my Berghaus crusader 90+20 mk1, carries everything my plce 100 can but with comfort (who'd have known...lOl) My trekking kit is pretty much dialed in now, with my REI 55 flash, thermarest Xtherm and my Vango Orion 200, base weight of just 7 Kg, Winter kit, same but a berghaus and my sleeping bags mix instead of my down quilt. Old father time has been a bit of a git hasn't he ?...lol Hence my light weight trekking kit as apposed to my heavier bush kit. Just got the Jay Jays bergen left to sell, which will afford me my DCF (cuban fiber tarp 300 grams).... The older I get the less I need, but most viewer just like seeing the videos of heavy kit, and me sweating over it I think...lol Stay safe..bex
If you haven't got it, I doubt it'd be worth having! Blimey, you've got some kit. A jolly good presentation all round - excellent skit at the end, but now the secret is out, you do know that they'll be coming for you 😂 All the very best to you and yours Bex 👍 👍 👍 🍻
I use a Belgian M97 ruck and it's a brute. I never really cared for lightweight stuff. They say you can onpy pick 2 from: lightweight, cheap and durable. I'm a tight git and hate buying things 10 times. Also couldn't you roll the sleeping bag in the bivi system, assuming it isn't down?
Yes I do that often, but needs a large bergen to house it....#Check out my video when this is shown... ruclips.net/video/NWoJb-2CkH0/видео.html An alternative would be to run a sling thru the bed roll, an forego a pack entirely, also seen in another video on my channel....
A very useful video. Thanks. For me surplus gear is tough and budget friendly. My dad gave me 3 of his old British army ponchos. They're not the lightest, but they have a place as a quick shelter from the rain (but I just don't tend to use them that much). A basha is a much better solution, but do you have any advice on how I could perhaps get more out of those old ponchos and improve their waterproofing?
The older canvas ponchos (capes) are designed for two ponchos to be buttoned together, making a tipi type shelter, where two members of the same unit buddy up their ponchos and sleep. This depends on the type of ponchos you have. The Brit 58 pattern rain capes are perfect for this, and a stick can be used to prop the shelter up. I have tried water proofing with "fabsil" but vintage kit is often heavy and bulky, so for practical purposes a modern basha is more than enough.....bex
That can easily be arranged ...lol I love my wooly pulley, and hairy Mary, just don't like carrying the weight of the spares in the pack. I would rather give up the weight of a days rations, to take my pulley....b
Agree on the woolly pulley, the new polyester equivalent is not as warm, or versatile. Lighter yes but the woolly has more uses and also warm when wet (mine is old and all wool). I also have newer one which is 80% wool, which is twice as big as I need, and can be used as a sleep shirt or overall when things get colder, allowing layers underneath or just the pully. Wool has so many advances, and as a medic who once nearly died on the Brecons in a storm told me, wool will always beat man made. Stay safe everyone, prepare for worse to come and hope for the best, but prepare.
I have a120 Bergen and a rucksack of equivalent weight and my kit feels heavier in the Bergen, the other pack sits more comfortable on my back so its ticking my mind to think its lighter. Could you do a video on NATO clothing sizes thanks.
Agreed 100%. Its not designed for comfort, MOD don't give a sh#t about that..lol I have a 90+20 crusader and it feels like cheating carrying the same kit, would go as far as its better than my Osprey of the same weight. Bergen is now a man cave display, or to make #YT vids, (you know what viewers are like, they like discomfort)....lol
It was on my xmas list last year but Santa left me out. The Predator would be an advantage if you want to keep your sleeping bag kit inside the pack, and extend it to accommodate bulkier items. However adding / modding a floating lid, to an existing pack/bergen will have the same affect if you use a compression sack for the doss bag and ride it on top of the snow collar. I suppose the question is, use a floating lid and compression sack and save a kilo, or loose fill the doss bag, and suck up the extra kilo weight of the Predator....I'm still in two minds. I want one, but know I don't really need one...bex
Suffered the weather for this one. I'd love to see tips on using the genuine NI patrol pack as it doesn't have horizontal molle straps like the newer copies. I've used some t bars to convert the front verticals to horizontal, but it's not perfect. It enabled me to attach a molle pouch to the front. I'm sure a lot of people find this issue with the NI pack and I'm sure you've got some solutions. You always do! 😂
My MTP NI has the front ladder to accept molle, but I do get it that many prefer DPM and don't want to make the change. Perhaps consider a PALs ladder panel, you should be able to just carabina it on..... www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Karrimor-SF-Predator-Molle-Panel-PLCE-Karrimorsf-Miltary-Pouch-M0150-Olive-NEW/183741927876?epid=5030731498&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item2ac7df51c4:g:8~oAAOSw5G9ePBsC&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACgBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%252Fn%252BzU5L90Z278x5ickk8Fd9si%252FIbtWQr%252BhnlRwjDWnjVzidBe70bzTKg8%252Bnnryu2Jeap2e6%252FX%252FE0cqy9eypgPHOkL9e813RcOmJtMsAGJvIgcMiJMtHau7ZgkvhWYQke5pRyimx%252BFYYRVa0IsL9hJaFT16HxSMvlTMvHOZVqiKbEVBQR9pGfsXcUKE8ZFnvrLQOooIDypIVFJY08vjpiDG4TjG2nk1ElerfitYoXNQqJ89kW4IxBd3GYZh08QiuA44OLZKTCQ6D0cD8it1YeeVMapgc%252BxX2tmCF1HGOIgbvWBi30YvExjx3xRUl7pRQnFYcm259jpq%252Bb8417IIH9hHGeLL%252BRnp6ZtvXhZ3SIUm6S%252F6qB3%252BwffG8nt90BI5ovQmtCOxXuDf%252BEEyjuJyp6fgHia5gFKyk6jhmpDzcbY%252BdcxkASJjcEGFFnWPQlN%252Fffsfrm5VwuffqwtsbYMZR1MWg6UWr62b%252FVkZvKk4rt9tuB3HlGp82kPEq93p1NhYUuW99nnStMEMhYSvsMBoQH0vBz7OvoPXQJJjDLKBqzwJHkB0xu1CMjKqnkjT0oDXWP5TkB2I2NEoy9kpBRDob0hKQjVRjd6rLlbYXqRd6Q%252FVjIe0Al8%252BP1vyJVgOzXy9z7Mo0snXoX5gEFPsmNL0lxQJOWyERdQTsv6qrp%252FG7CbHH%252FnNxFG%252FaSbYeDlMrhjNM%252BkDSL9uTJ3Crl%252B28XB6JbbCiciooo0Wh9br%252FNUcXxpTo5mDjcOdkcE7dzMx%252Fo62f%252BzG5zh4yDa4C44iW9ZYYjUt3CTjyu1rzd5Kzvv50M86oWJUuIKE7ayNpPSnGuzs%253D%7Ccksum%3A18374192787676ac4c75e09848e7a40e856af8199cd7%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2334524
@@bexbugoutsurvivor I don't mind about the camo, but I got my NI pack pretty cheap in great condition. I think that's why people go for it. All the modern copies do seem to have molle though which I'd prefer
Hi Bex I don't suppose you might know this question I'm going to ask do u think ild be able to fit my pattern 90 articles sleeping bag in the virtus 90l bergen at the bottom of the bergen thanks in advance mate
Yes, absolutely. I have the Virtus GU and it far surpasses functional use of space compared to the (Sheeple) plce bergen. Not sure about the MK3 Virtus tho....(should have thought so)....bex
Nice video Bex. Can I talk of something off topic, but relevant to us that can provide for ourselves that has me concerned, just need an opinion. The world knows there is a huge ship blocking the Suez Canal and could be for some time, also there is now a huge traffic jam of bulk carrier ships in the Red Sea, out into the Indian Ocean. How much fuel (Petrol/Diesel) is there in this country ? How long can it last ? How much of it comes from the Gulf area via the Suez Canal (which is at a stand still). Any shipping traffic avoiding the Suez Canal would take an extra 2 weeks to get to the UK, via the Horn of Africa and the Atlantic, instead of Suez Canal and the Med shortcut. With extra fuel being used as the lockdown rules change on Monday, so more traffic=more fuel. I am wondering if this could cause us problems, as all of Europe will be the same with their fuel situations. It may be wise for everyone to get their vehicles filled and keep them filled, just in case there are "Difficulties".
There shouldn't be any petrol or diesel carried by ships. Only crude oil travels via the Suez in both directions. Not sure of the numbers, but its in the millions of barrels per day. The oil is refined into fuel in the country you buy the fuel. Each country will have a reserve of oil back stocked. I am aware of several attempt plans to refloat the vessel. Currently digging under the ship (dredging) to refloat is pretty standard. There is also a cargo vessel on route right now, to off load the containers too, should this fail. A last resort is to dig a bypass around the ship, to move the back log of vessels, which would take the longest, and is tasked to the military, or even dismantling the ship in situee. Both the former are weeks worth of effort, by which time oil reserves will be nearly depleted. Crude tankers are now diverted to follow off coastline, to maintain a steady flow of oil, but adds weeks to the journey. Its only my guess, but judging by the last fuel shortage UK, we will be rationed with fuel with in a few days, so keep your transport topped up, and only travel for essential needs (IMO). Public transport will benefit first for fuel, in order to keep vital commuters employed, (take advantage of public transport) save your own fuel. To add salt into the wound, cargo being transported via the suez canal will affect us too (food, clothes, white goods, medical supplies) you name it.) The reroute of supplies will ensure close to normal service, if nobody bulk buys (but we know every one will tho) STOCK UP WITH TOILET TISSUES.....Seriously buy long sustaining foods such as rolled oats, rices, etc....Chances are we may not even notice the extreme efforts currently under taken, and things will just tick along.....Always plan for all foreseeable out comes, including bugging out with everything you need, should localized looting and rioting occur, (DON'T ARM IN) you'll be out numbered, but this is good practice for any eventuality (remember no one came to help, when hurricane Katrina happened) it was down to self rescue and the community working together......Sleep well...bex
@@bexbugoutsurvivor Thanks Bex, you are thinking the same as me, I just needed some sort of clarification, especially when you mentioned the last fuel drivers strike, as my Daughter, a Nurse was issued with a priority fuel pass for the local petrol garages. I am a prepper, so was already squared away for the medical emergency when that hit, as where I live between Saddleworth Moor (Pennines) and Glossop (Peak District), so prepared in September/October last year for bad winter, as I do every year. I was legally housebound for months as I am on the Critically Vulnerable list, so was shielding. I used my preps as a real world exercise, as I wasn't going anywhere for months to find any holes in my preps and made them last over 6 months without getting more shopping in. I did find some holes and now sorted them out and completely restocked for another 6 months if needed. I am sorted for alternate power needs, off grid cooking, etc. so can quite happily lock the door and bug in and bag packed, if I needed to bug out either into the local hills, where I can be quite comfortable for a while foraging, etc as the Pennine foothills are literally the other side of my back garden fence , over 1 little road around our small estate as the division , I can be on the Pennine Bridleway in less than 1 minute from my front door walking or to a friends out of the way. Cheers the reply Bex, it was much appreciated. ATB Mark
Hello Bex and that was another very interesting video and I didnt know about the weight difference between DPM and MTP,. That MTP shelter kit bag, where can I get one? Thank you in advance
Only regular size left. I would wait to see if the size large comes back into stock shortly.... www.kitmonster.co.uk/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=bum+roll&search_in_description=0&x=0&y=0
Part 2 was same kit different packs & litreage. ruclips.net/video/Hgcw27-oZIE/видео.html Hoping to bivvy out with this very kit soon with no pack at all....bex
Bex Awesome video as always Why Why Why you just blew me a way as a dpm wooly pully softy suit loving guy with assorted gear mats ect as your self who can get gear into a dpm day bag but not this light by know means This is is gonna cost a fortune to replace is it worth it after over 20 years getting all this gear together tried and tested also not sure if I like running around in mtp still love dpm lol All the best Tony
I have (full kit) in both DPM & MTP, I too love the 90 wooly pully and olive softies and hairy marry wool shirt, but as you will see in the weigh off video coming soon the difference is noticeable. If DPM is just a personal colour preference rather than kit choice, then stick with it...ATB...Bex
@@bexbugoutsurvivor cheers Bex Although weight matters especially at my age I guess I still like dpm Just wasn't aware mtp was so much lighter All the best Tony
1st off me and my woman love your vids. Next up: When you stated what goes in your day sack, my woman said don't teach an old bear how to s@#t in the woods. Yet carry some toilet paper or something to wipe ya butt. Had to post as that's German logic from her
It is interesting how the amount of kit carried by RegularReserve Armed Forces has increased by 50% over the last 35 years.
Even if you chat to people who have been involved in civilian camping for decades they say the same thing.
The days when used to camp out in a Argos sleeping bag, and use two bin liners as waterproof barrier, seem to be distant memory.
Excellent. You certainly proved it’s possible to get all that kit in the NI patrol pack like you said. Amazing. I can see you suffered with the weather on this video so thanks, that was exactly what I needed to see 👍
Adds the ability to travel lighter with more comfort and faster if required, carring the same kit. However the down side is it looses the ability to pack the doss bag quickly....all the best bex
Bex, just as an idea, I presume the NI pack was set up to go with belt kit. Those items like the water bottle and jet boyle would have fitted into your belt kit, lots of possibilities. I like the idea with the bivi rolled up. Just out of interest, maybe sometime you can show us a belt kit with the NI pack. With a good hip pad, I always liked the belt kit. The bergen doesn't seem to have advanced with a good waist belt but still it's a great bit of kit, thanks
There are several concluding parts to this coming up soon, one is with a webbing platform as mentioned in the vid. I neither carry water in webbing or the pack, look out for how too on the quick tips soon, and the (Jet Boil) weighs next to nothing in the Ni. The (hip belt) on a bergen are actually (kidney pads). Wrap the pads directly under your lower rib cage, and OVER the TOP of your illiac crest (hip bone) it is buckled up directly over your belly button. Hip pads are squared off and come around your hips and sit a hell of a lot lower, kidney pads, (well sit around your kidneys) hence their strange shape compared to a hip belt. you will be able to drop nearly all the weight off your shoulders completely. I still often see recruits cut their pads off and grunt the weight on their shoulders, thinking they are hip belts that don't work lol. By the way I often can get all my web pouch items into a smock, but don't tell any one....If webbing is more your cup of tea, then check out my mixed webbing (recreational only) NOT COMBAT......ruclips.net/video/h-eJP8hg1XA/видео.html
@@bexbugoutsurvivor cheers Bex
Nice. I can fit a 90 patt Arctic sleeping bag in to my DPM NI Patrol pack easily
Bex the skit about the MOD made this video double plus good
Glad you enjoyed...bex
Excellent Information Brother! Thanks for the Info You Are Teaching Us . I. Know it's Helped me. Never Stop Learning. Have a Great Weekend . Happy Trails. Cheers from Swansea SC.
Keeping the kit but leaving the bergen at home, means an old boy like me gets to travel further in more comfort....lol Stacking the patrol sack like this suits me down to the ground.....keep well bud...bex
I put a tent bag that calculates to 91L in the main compartment it took some force to get it to the bottom. It goes right up to the start of the snow bit you could still pack more on top if you wanted to fill that part making it more than a 90L compartment, thats without counting the 2 pockets in lid and the pocket on the front making it 100L for sure. Then you add the 2 rocket pockets and it's well in a 120L.
Thanks for watching.
@@bexbugoutsurvivor no problem enjoy the content mate thanks for posting.
Great clip mate very informative, mod get some stick but they are not daft, lighter kit means you can carry extra of what matters. some of the recent stuff is very decent and warm. all best mate thanks for sharing.
ABSOLUTELY AWESOME TO SEE HOW YOU CAN ACHIEVE THE SAME LOADOUT BUT DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION I DID NOT KNOW THAT MTP WAS LIGHTER THEN DPM BECAUSE I HAVE JUST MTP BASHA AND AND BIVVY BAG ALL MY OTHER KIT IS DPM ALWAYS GREAT LEARNINGS TAKE CARE BEX...👌👌✌
Definitely my cup of tea...good timing as well.
I'm currently aiming for a sort of bugout/travel/wildcamping kit that could cover most three season situations, i travel a lot(or did!) so it has to be portable and not too out of place in a high street. Ideally a mix of surplus and normal gear that fits into a 30-40lt pack. I have Munro pack which i have added webbing to so i can add pouches, tie/bungy kit on etc, not to disimilar to what you you just did...trying to keep it under 9/10kg though, minus food and water ? Just found you so will flick through your back catologue to see what i can find !!
Not long subbed. Look forward to your next one...
Cheers from sunny Kent
A muted colored rain shield should provide you with the "Grey-man" effect you desire. Holdals are great for an urban environment , in place of a pack. Food shelter and insulation are your primary items, if you don't over think it, you will be warm dry and well fed with just these basics....thanx for subbin...bex
@@bexbugoutsurvivor Thanks for replying Bex. Yeah, over thinking has cost me a few bob over the years ! Hadn't thought of a holdall...detachable pack straps for the hills maybe..?!
Appreciate the input mate
ATB Deano, Folkestone
looking forward to seeing the side by side weight comparisons ... and the food you carry.
DPM kit is generally more robust, which is where i think the weight difference starts to add up,
but there again ... stealth camping/fishing etc ... doesn't really rack up the wear and tear like military usage.
The Dpm has that PU waterproof coating on the inner that adds the wight. I know when I fabsil-ed a canvas tent it added a hell of lot of weight. In two minds weather to keep any of my PLCE bergens, now I have found Berghaus 90+20.....bex
@@bexbugoutsurvivor i'll keep my current modded plce shortback (for winter use) ... i have an all arms bergen i'm going to sell, .... but i do have a berghaus ROC i'm planning to modify (and use as an overnight bag) ... my primary ruck is a wisport 75L ... old father time (going soft) has caught up with me and i eventually decided to modernize and have some comfort, .... sold my beloved large alice, sold my RM Arctic pack, sold my SAS Bergen, sold my marpat ilbe, sold my dutch army lowe alpine, sold my air support bergen, sold a couple of pimped out plce long-backs, From having a huge line up i'm down 4 bergens now. (will eventually have 3)
I do have an air crew bergen .... will most likely sell that after i've used it, their not designed with comfort in mind or so i'm told.
Sound like we are a very similar path. Have sold or selling most of my PLCE 100, and am head over heals in love with my Berghaus crusader 90+20 mk1, carries everything my plce 100 can but with comfort (who'd have known...lOl)
My trekking kit is pretty much dialed in now, with my REI 55 flash, thermarest Xtherm and my Vango Orion 200, base weight of just 7 Kg, Winter kit, same but a berghaus and my sleeping bags mix instead of my down quilt.
Old father time has been a bit of a git hasn't he ?...lol Hence my light weight trekking kit as apposed to my heavier bush kit. Just got the Jay Jays bergen left to sell, which will afford me my DCF (cuban fiber tarp 300 grams)....
The older I get the less I need, but most viewer just like seeing the videos of heavy kit, and me sweating over it I think...lol Stay safe..bex
If you haven't got it, I doubt it'd be worth having! Blimey, you've got some kit. A jolly good presentation all round - excellent skit at the end, but now the secret is out, you do know that they'll be coming for you 😂
All the very best to you and yours Bex 👍 👍 👍 🍻
I use a Belgian M97 ruck and it's a brute. I never really cared for lightweight stuff. They say you can onpy pick 2 from: lightweight, cheap and durable. I'm a tight git and hate buying things 10 times.
Also couldn't you roll the sleeping bag in the bivi system, assuming it isn't down?
Yes I do that often, but needs a large bergen to house it....#Check out my video when this is shown...
ruclips.net/video/NWoJb-2CkH0/видео.html
An alternative would be to run a sling thru the bed roll, an forego a pack entirely, also seen in another video on my channel....
A very useful video. Thanks. For me surplus gear is tough and budget friendly. My dad gave me 3 of his old British army ponchos. They're not the lightest, but they have a place as a quick shelter from the rain (but I just don't tend to use them that much). A basha is a much better solution, but do you have any advice on how I could perhaps get more out of those old ponchos and improve their waterproofing?
The older canvas ponchos (capes) are designed for two ponchos to be buttoned together, making a tipi type shelter, where two members of the same unit buddy up their ponchos and sleep. This depends on the type of ponchos you have. The Brit 58 pattern rain capes are perfect for this, and a stick can be used to prop the shelter up. I have tried water proofing with "fabsil" but vintage kit is often heavy and bulky, so for practical purposes a modern basha is more than enough.....bex
You’ll have to rip my DPM kit and woolly pulley off my dead body. I’ll never give up my pulley!😂
Great vid Bex 👍
That can easily be arranged ...lol
I love my wooly pulley, and hairy Mary, just don't like carrying the weight of the spares in the pack. I would rather give up the weight of a days rations, to take my pulley....b
Agree on the woolly pulley, the new polyester equivalent is not as warm, or versatile. Lighter yes but the woolly has more uses and also warm when wet (mine is old and all wool). I also have newer one which is 80% wool, which is twice as big as I need, and can be used as a sleep shirt or overall when things get colder, allowing layers underneath or just the pully. Wool has so many advances, and as a medic who once nearly died on the Brecons in a storm told me, wool will always beat man made. Stay safe everyone, prepare for worse to come and hope for the best, but prepare.
I have a120 Bergen and a rucksack of equivalent weight and my kit feels heavier in the Bergen, the other pack sits more comfortable on my back so its ticking my mind to think its lighter.
Could you do a video on NATO clothing sizes thanks.
Agreed 100%. Its not designed for comfort, MOD don't give a sh#t about that..lol
I have a 90+20 crusader and it feels like cheating carrying the same kit, would go as far as its better than my Osprey of the same weight. Bergen is now a man cave display, or to make #YT vids, (you know what viewers are like, they like discomfort)....lol
I have thought about doing a sizing video, will try and see if I can squeeze it in this summer....bex
Excellent vid. What do you think of the Karrimor SF Predator 80-120 bergen?
It was on my xmas list last year but Santa left me out. The Predator would be an advantage if you want to keep your sleeping bag kit inside the pack, and extend it to accommodate bulkier items. However adding / modding a floating lid, to an existing pack/bergen will have the same affect if you use a compression sack for the doss bag and ride it on top of the snow collar. I suppose the question is, use a floating lid and compression sack and save a kilo, or loose fill the doss bag, and suck up the extra kilo weight of the Predator....I'm still in two minds. I want one, but know I don't really need one...bex
Suffered the weather for this one.
I'd love to see tips on using the genuine NI patrol pack as it doesn't have horizontal molle straps like the newer copies. I've used some t bars to convert the front verticals to horizontal, but it's not perfect. It enabled me to attach a molle pouch to the front.
I'm sure a lot of people find this issue with the NI pack and I'm sure you've got some solutions. You always do! 😂
My MTP NI has the front ladder to accept molle, but I do get it that many prefer DPM and don't want to make the change. Perhaps consider a PALs ladder panel, you should be able to just carabina it on.....
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Karrimor-SF-Predator-Molle-Panel-PLCE-Karrimorsf-Miltary-Pouch-M0150-Olive-NEW/183741927876?epid=5030731498&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item2ac7df51c4:g:8~oAAOSw5G9ePBsC&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACgBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%252Fn%252BzU5L90Z278x5ickk8Fd9si%252FIbtWQr%252BhnlRwjDWnjVzidBe70bzTKg8%252Bnnryu2Jeap2e6%252FX%252FE0cqy9eypgPHOkL9e813RcOmJtMsAGJvIgcMiJMtHau7ZgkvhWYQke5pRyimx%252BFYYRVa0IsL9hJaFT16HxSMvlTMvHOZVqiKbEVBQR9pGfsXcUKE8ZFnvrLQOooIDypIVFJY08vjpiDG4TjG2nk1ElerfitYoXNQqJ89kW4IxBd3GYZh08QiuA44OLZKTCQ6D0cD8it1YeeVMapgc%252BxX2tmCF1HGOIgbvWBi30YvExjx3xRUl7pRQnFYcm259jpq%252Bb8417IIH9hHGeLL%252BRnp6ZtvXhZ3SIUm6S%252F6qB3%252BwffG8nt90BI5ovQmtCOxXuDf%252BEEyjuJyp6fgHia5gFKyk6jhmpDzcbY%252BdcxkASJjcEGFFnWPQlN%252Fffsfrm5VwuffqwtsbYMZR1MWg6UWr62b%252FVkZvKk4rt9tuB3HlGp82kPEq93p1NhYUuW99nnStMEMhYSvsMBoQH0vBz7OvoPXQJJjDLKBqzwJHkB0xu1CMjKqnkjT0oDXWP5TkB2I2NEoy9kpBRDob0hKQjVRjd6rLlbYXqRd6Q%252FVjIe0Al8%252BP1vyJVgOzXy9z7Mo0snXoX5gEFPsmNL0lxQJOWyERdQTsv6qrp%252FG7CbHH%252FnNxFG%252FaSbYeDlMrhjNM%252BkDSL9uTJ3Crl%252B28XB6JbbCiciooo0Wh9br%252FNUcXxpTo5mDjcOdkcE7dzMx%252Fo62f%252BzG5zh4yDa4C44iW9ZYYjUt3CTjyu1rzd5Kzvv50M86oWJUuIKE7ayNpPSnGuzs%253D%7Ccksum%3A18374192787676ac4c75e09848e7a40e856af8199cd7%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2334524
@@bexbugoutsurvivor I don't mind about the camo, but I got my NI pack pretty cheap in great condition. I think that's why people go for it. All the modern copies do seem to have molle though which I'd prefer
Hi Bex I don't suppose you might know this question I'm going to ask do u think ild be able to fit my pattern 90 articles sleeping bag in the virtus 90l bergen at the bottom of the bergen thanks in advance mate
Yes, absolutely. I have the Virtus GU and it far surpasses functional use of space compared to the (Sheeple) plce bergen. Not sure about the MK3 Virtus tho....(should have thought so)....bex
That is a great Vid,,, out in the shite and the rain ,, Great channel . S/E Ireland thanks.
My pleasure sir...
Just curious,
Where are you,
Great show,
ThankQ
On the Clwydian range, vale for conwy (Wales)....
@@bexbugoutsurvivor is that near Bala?
Nice video Bex. Can I talk of something off topic, but relevant to us that can provide for ourselves that has me concerned, just need an opinion.
The world knows there is a huge ship blocking the Suez Canal and could be for some time, also there is now a huge traffic jam of bulk carrier ships in the Red Sea, out into the Indian Ocean. How much fuel (Petrol/Diesel) is there in this country ? How long can it last ? How much of it comes from the Gulf area via the Suez Canal (which is at a stand still). Any shipping traffic avoiding the Suez Canal would take an extra 2 weeks to get to the UK, via the Horn of Africa and the Atlantic, instead of Suez Canal and the Med shortcut. With extra fuel being used as the lockdown rules change on Monday, so more traffic=more fuel. I am wondering if this could cause us problems, as all of Europe will be the same with their fuel situations. It may be wise for everyone to get their vehicles filled and keep them filled, just in case there are "Difficulties".
There shouldn't be any petrol or diesel carried by ships. Only crude oil travels via the Suez in both directions. Not sure of the numbers, but its in the millions of barrels per day. The oil is refined into fuel in the country you buy the fuel. Each country will have a reserve of oil back stocked. I am aware of several attempt plans to refloat the vessel. Currently digging under the ship (dredging) to refloat is pretty standard. There is also a cargo vessel on route right now, to off load the containers too, should this fail. A last resort is to dig a bypass around the ship, to move the back log of vessels, which would take the longest, and is tasked to the military, or even dismantling the ship in situee. Both the former are weeks worth of effort, by which time oil reserves will be nearly depleted. Crude tankers are now diverted to follow off coastline, to maintain a steady flow of oil, but adds weeks to the journey. Its only my guess, but judging by the last fuel shortage UK, we will be rationed with fuel with in a few days, so keep your transport topped up, and only travel for essential needs (IMO). Public transport will benefit first for fuel, in order to keep vital commuters employed, (take advantage of public transport) save your own fuel. To add salt into the wound, cargo being transported via the suez canal will affect us too (food, clothes, white goods, medical supplies) you name it.) The reroute of supplies will ensure close to normal service, if nobody bulk buys (but we know every one will tho) STOCK UP WITH TOILET TISSUES.....Seriously buy long sustaining foods such as rolled oats, rices, etc....Chances are we may not even notice the extreme efforts currently under taken, and things will just tick along.....Always plan for all foreseeable out comes, including bugging out with everything you need, should localized looting and rioting occur, (DON'T ARM IN) you'll be out numbered, but this is good practice for any eventuality (remember no one came to help, when hurricane Katrina happened) it was down to self rescue and the community working together......Sleep well...bex
@@bexbugoutsurvivor Thanks Bex, you are thinking the same as me, I just needed some sort of clarification, especially when you mentioned the last fuel drivers strike, as my Daughter, a Nurse was issued with a priority fuel pass for the local petrol garages.
I am a prepper, so was already squared away for the medical emergency when that hit, as where I live between Saddleworth Moor (Pennines) and Glossop (Peak District), so prepared in September/October last year for bad winter, as I do every year. I was legally housebound for months as I am on the Critically Vulnerable list, so was shielding. I used my preps as a real world exercise, as I wasn't going anywhere for months to find any holes in my preps and made them last over 6 months without getting more shopping in. I did find some holes and now sorted them out and completely restocked for another 6 months if needed. I am sorted for alternate power needs, off grid cooking, etc. so can quite happily lock the door and bug in and bag packed, if I needed to bug out either into the local hills, where I can be quite comfortable for a while foraging, etc as the Pennine foothills are literally the other side of my back garden fence , over 1 little road around our small estate as the division , I can be on the Pennine Bridleway in less than 1 minute from my front door walking or to a friends out of the way.
Cheers the reply Bex, it was much appreciated. ATB Mark
Hello Bex and that was another very interesting video and I didnt know about the weight difference between DPM and MTP,. That MTP shelter kit bag, where can I get one? Thank you in advance
Only regular size left. I would wait to see if the size large comes back into stock shortly....
www.kitmonster.co.uk/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=bum+roll&search_in_description=0&x=0&y=0
@@bexbugoutsurvivor thanks Bex and that's a big help
I wanna see part 2, camp with that gear
Part 2 was same kit different packs & litreage.
ruclips.net/video/Hgcw27-oZIE/видео.html
Hoping to bivvy out with this very kit soon with no pack at all....bex
🤣🤣🤣 brilliant measurements scenario bex
Pretty realistic I thought....lol
@@bexbugoutsurvivor pissed meself laughing 🤣🤣🤣
Bex
Awesome video as always
Why Why Why you just blew me a way as a dpm wooly pully softy suit loving guy with assorted gear mats ect as your self who can get gear into a dpm day bag but not this light by know means
This is is gonna cost a fortune to replace is it worth it after over 20 years getting all this gear together tried and tested also not sure if I like running around in mtp still love dpm lol
All the best
Tony
I have (full kit) in both DPM & MTP, I too love the 90 wooly pully and olive softies and hairy marry wool shirt, but as you will see in the weigh off video coming soon the difference is noticeable. If DPM is just a personal colour preference rather than kit choice, then stick with it...ATB...Bex
@@bexbugoutsurvivor cheers Bex
Although weight matters especially at my age I guess I still like dpm
Just wasn't aware mtp was so much lighter
All the best
Tony
More MOD skits please sir 👏🏼👍🏼 that was hilarious 😂👍🏼
Shouldn't really air my rants....lol
1st off me and my woman love your vids. Next up: When you stated what goes in your day sack, my woman said don't teach an old bear how to s@#t in the woods. Yet carry some toilet paper or something to wipe ya butt. Had to post as that's German logic from her
Tell her I just dip my butt in a stream...lol
@@bexbugoutsurvivor lol i will do 👌