Great video! Thats incredible. Weather played a role in many midair collisions, including a few with Invaders. But so far Ive never heard of them moving people from one plane to the other with the force of the impact. Its truly incredible anyone survived that.
You might not believe it, but I own the co-pilot seat of 43-38071. It is in very good condition, and came together with the front part of the frame assembly for the seat. It was salvaged from Brustem airfield in the years after the war. As I was told, but can't verify at this time, only one B-17 ever remained at the Brustem airfield, and was salvaged in later years. In any case, when I aquired the seat, I was told it was salvaged in Belgium, but no exact location was given. While cleaning the seat from years of dust and cobwebs, a number appeared on the side of the seat. It sais 43-38071.
If there is any info and pictures, how about planes getting repaired in the field. With wings, stabilizers and other parts getting destroyed during missions, it would be interesting to see how they were repaired. Did they have complete wings and other spare parts, did they fabricate parts and coverings?
That's an interesting question. I didn't paid a lot of attention to it so far. I can remember one B-17, s/n 41-24606, landed in a field and was repaired. But in this case, only engines were replaced. Wings are ok. You can search for the B-17s serial number to get photos.
Although such tight formations kept crews safer from fighter attack it must have resulted in more than a few collisions,and sad that the worse damaged plane was seen going down under control but the crew still all died.it must have suddenly plunged into a dive when closer to the ground.another superbly researched films B-17 FF..
I believe, the image caption, which is original with the images, has mixed up the planes. But because the caption is original, I did not edited it. I paid more attention to the statement of the tail gunner in another B-17.
I understand your doubt and I am not sure myself how that could happen that the radio operator could get into the bow of the other B-17. It is possible that the collision took place near the radio room and the radio operator was sucked out. So propeller hits fuselage near the radio room. Anyway, I can't imagine that they wrote down the wrong crewman's name in the MACR. Which was found in the bow.
@@B17FlyingFortress Propellor hits near radio room and somehow he ends up in the nose? LMFAO. Nothing about it makes any sense, especially since all shown damage is in the nose. I call BULLSHIT.
"Propellor hits near radio room and somehow he ends up in the nose" - this is my own opinion. Not comfirmed by any official documents. In my video, I just said what the MACR said. That's the offical infomation and all I have. In truth, no one knows what exactly happened. Believe it or not. That's your decision.
Great video! Thats incredible. Weather played a role in many midair collisions, including a few with Invaders. But so far Ive never heard of them moving people from one plane to the other with the force of the impact. Its truly incredible anyone survived that.
yeah, that is the only case I heard from. Can't imaging how this could happen, that another crew man found in another plane after mid-air-collision.
You might not believe it, but I own the co-pilot seat of 43-38071. It is in very good condition, and came together with the front part of the frame assembly for the seat. It was salvaged from Brustem airfield in the years after the war. As I was told, but can't verify at this time, only one B-17 ever remained at the Brustem airfield, and was salvaged in later years. In any case, when I aquired the seat, I was told it was salvaged in Belgium, but no exact location was given. While cleaning the seat from years of dust and cobwebs, a number appeared on the side of the seat. It sais 43-38071.
this is really amazing! Can you sent me a picture of the seat?
@@B17FlyingFortress Pictures sent :)
@@Peacemillion44 thanks! :) Replied :)
If there is any info and pictures, how about planes getting repaired in the field. With wings, stabilizers and other parts getting destroyed during missions, it would be interesting to see how they were repaired.
Did they have complete wings and other spare parts, did they fabricate parts and coverings?
That's an interesting question. I didn't paid a lot of attention to it so far. I can remember one B-17, s/n 41-24606, landed in a field and was repaired. But in this case, only engines were replaced. Wings are ok. You can search for the B-17s serial number to get photos.
Although such tight formations kept crews safer from fighter attack it must have resulted in more than a few collisions,and sad that the worse damaged plane was seen going down under control but the crew still all died.it must have suddenly plunged into a dive when closer to the ground.another superbly researched films B-17 FF..
I believe, the image caption, which is original with the images, has mixed up the planes. But because the caption is original, I did not edited it. I paid more attention to the statement of the tail gunner in another B-17.
"Must have"? You bet it did. Mid air collisions, especially on form ups, were the #2 crew killer behind frostbite in WW2. Enemy bullets/flak were #3.
Wowsers !
Radio operator sat in the fuselage, just in front of the waist gunners, over the wing saddle, not in the nose. So I HIGHLY doubt it.
I understand your doubt and I am not sure myself how that could happen that the radio operator could get into the bow of the other B-17.
It is possible that the collision took place near the radio room and the radio operator was sucked out. So propeller hits fuselage near the radio room.
Anyway, I can't imagine that they wrote down the wrong crewman's name in the MACR. Which was found in the bow.
@@B17FlyingFortress Propellor hits near radio room and somehow he ends up in the nose? LMFAO. Nothing about it makes any sense, especially since all shown damage is in the nose. I call BULLSHIT.
"Propellor hits near radio room and somehow he ends up in the nose" - this is my own opinion. Not comfirmed by any official documents.
In my video, I just said what the MACR said. That's the offical infomation and all I have. In truth, no one knows what exactly happened. Believe it or not. That's your decision.