HeyGears Ultracraft Reflex Preview - A 3D printer FROM THE FUTURE
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Hey all, here's a special one. a printer you've probably never heard of. The company behind this product have specialised for years in Industrial scale 3D printing for Dental and prosthetics.
And now they are entering the consumer space with the UltraCraft Reflex.
Using this printer I took on a commission job of 3D printing the official prototype models for Wargames Atlantic's The Damned Campaign in partnership with MiniWargaming gamefound.com/.... It was as simple as loading the files into the slicer. let the slicer do all the supporting, and click print. So this gives you production quality in minutes, with no need to mess around with settings or temperature, or test prints.
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I work in a dental lab in the 3d print department and we use their printers. That service you got is how they handle everyone. They are super hands on and very knowledgeable. If we have issues we have a tech that they will fly out to us within a. Couple days to assist. Those are the exact same build plate on the industrial printers. We LOVE HeyGears in my lab. Everything they do is quality.
Do they offer castable resins? I work in the jewelry industry and we have similar needs to dental, depending on the final output.
@@richardaubin1951 yes they do. We use it for frames
Can you tell me if keystone resin for splints can be use or if these only works with home brand resins?
I agree, we use their a3d for our lab. It’s amazing best support
@@benburke9355Hey! Dental lab guy here too in metro Atlanta. We have Heygears printers at our lab too, which I run. We have three A2D’s and one A3D. They are all really awesome printers and great customer service. We have a ton of models to print all the time so the A3D really saves the day for its continuous printing where it can cycle itself after each job and start a new job. Without it, it would be very difficult to keep up. I usually nest about 12 to 14 hours worth of jobs for the overnight printing and then it’s ready the next day when I come in.
Proprietary resin bottles is a sure way to monopolize these prices. This is 2D printing all over again!
Yep, I just had a look at their website.
The PAT10 (Clear resin) is £48 on offer (Normally £70)
The PAU10 (ABS like) is the same pricing.
The CMYK set (Sold as a bundle of 5 bottles, not individually) is £241 on offer ( Normally £354)
Each bottle is the standard 1000g of other bottles on the market when not on sale in the UK (Can't speak for US regional pricing), so we are talking double the price, Its already showing the proprietary bollocks that is standard play in the 2d printer sphere.
Only possible saving grace is if someone dumps current market priced ABS-like resins into those bottles and finds a way to get it to print successfully with them.
Yeah but once you use up a bottle of their resin what's stopping you from filling it up with clearance Sirayatech or something? Sure it wont have the settings in the application but I bet you can set that stuff up manually
@@jtrain9926 that would be my hope, even if you can't adjust the settings, I'm sure someone out there figures out a product or mixture of products that matches closely enough to not need adjusting.
As long as they don't fully seal up the bottles and put RFID tags that get triggered as empty so the bottle can't be reused on them there will be some ways to defeat it.
@@Bardghost_IsuI don’t think they’ll go that way because the CYMK set for example is meant to be open and mixed etc so I don’t see why you couldn’t put other stuff in. It will just highly depend whether they support this because if not then it will be unlikely that you can change the relevant settings in the slicer.
@@Bardghost_Isu just wait for some chinese company to copy them and thus FORCE THEM to lower prices significantly, just as the Bambu lab did for filament printing.
Just a heads up, for the bundle it's £1500 before VAT - so for those of you in the UK it'll be around £1800
thx for the info
Not a bad price for the full bundle, the decider would be how much resins cost.
Thanks for all the informative and quality content you create.
At $1,800 - 2,500 I think this platform is way overpriced for what it offers. There are some cool features with the printer (wireless printing, heated resin vat, auto-leveling, etc.) but many of those are beginning to make their way into mainstream printers. For a fraction of the total cost, someone could buy a top of the line consumer printer, wash & cure, and all the consumables from another brand. HeyGears price tag doesn't even include resin.
The wash station feels like a gimmick. Unless the shaking provides demonstrably better results, it’s just more parts to break, will vibrate your workspace, and potentially damage prints by tossing them around. Wash and cure stations from other manufacturers all include a metal basket so you don’t need to dunk your hand in the IPA and smaller parts can be put in a sonic cleaner basket ($5 - 10 on Amazon for a set). There’s also the very real spill risk from user error or a worn-out seal. The one possible saving grace would be if there was a filter that could pull out the resin particulates from the draining IPA.
The proprietary slicer and resin are a big red flag. This screams printer ink 2.0. I would be wary of pricing (current and future), availability, and door-to-door shipping time. Most resin manufactures already have resin profiles you can import or manually input into a slicer, so having them preloaded really isn’t a game changer. People have had issues with resin bottle caps cracking; I would hate for that to happen when the bottle is attached to the top of my printer…
33um is nothing to write home about and it seems odd to spend >$1K for a printer that has worse results than currently available ~$400 printers.
Customer service is huge. But I can’t imagine the average consumer would receive the same white glove treatment as a popular YTer that they sent their product to for free in return for a review (albeit upaid).
If I were going to take a risk on a new entry into the 3D printing space, I would buy from Athena. Their printer has all the best features as this one at a fraction of the cost AND is designed for future upgradability while HeyGears is clearly designed to lock you into their ecosystem.
The big appeal seems to be an “all in one” solution with little tinkering required - but all of that depends on how well all the components (slicer, printer, wash & cure, etc.) perform once they hit mass market.
I am excited to see new players entering 3D resin printing and upping the ante both in features and build quality. I hope this forces existing big players to begin adding these QoL features into their products.
fk no Athena, maby when they show a more reelable model, their photo type. was wonky as hell and not build good, why even risk it in the first place u dont need to.
this at least have stellar build quality, and seems to have a good backbone on aftercare tho 1000 plus for the wash system no thx, I could maby eat 2x the resin cost If it could suck up resin from the vat itself.
It sounds like there's a few company's that are actually "listening and addressing " the issues with resin printing.... I'm really looking forward to watching the tech grow! I'm still on my first photon mono X 6K...and it seems everything ive said to my self...a few company's are addressing! Great share sir!
It is nice to see right, just need more brands on board now
£1499 and I have to purchase their resin...guard is up already but will watch with interest...
That’s the bundle not the printer, but I hear you! Definitely worth keeping an eye on though!
@leanja6926 yep, definately watch the video.
I like the printer. You’re paying for convenience which I’m okay with. I’d rather just send it to the printer and tell it to print without any fuss. I can concentrate on designs. I’m definitely considering getting one. $1399 USD isn’t a bad price.
That wash station looks like it can also serve as a paint mixers for all your paint pots at once! hahaha
For the price...I hope they are the best. I appreciate attentive innovation and precise execution.
I hate resin printing because of resin mess. That resin system is really nice, I might give this a go. I seriously don't care about the resin, I'll buy one color because I'm painting the models or props myself. This looks like something I want to buy.
This printer looks amazing though it's currently a fair bit out of my price range. I love seeing new innovations in printers like this because it only makes the competition sit up and realize they need to up their game.
do you need a lower price printer?
That washing station is nuts haha. For mechanical parts I could totally see it, for minis and other more fragile stuff, I'd be worried about damage. Really cool video, this printer looks like it could be pretty awesome.
Their website is a catastrophe, it took me 5 minutes to find the specs button, to see that this is a 6k 10" mono screen printer. I am pumped to find out, which glorious feature is supposed to sell this machine.
“Features” plural, it’s not just a printer, it’s a whole printing platform.
@cryptokingstechgaming5826 you must be new tto my channel if you think I'm being paid to pump something. Other thangetting the printer i got £0 for this, unlike other creators who did get paid.
My thoughts on this are my own as are any video. don't believe me? with all due respect, ask around.
@@FauxHammer Yeah dude Fauxhammer pretty much relies on being neutral.
What page are you on? Scrolling down to the bottom of the Reflex page shows that it's a 6K screen and I found the specs button after clicking the learn more button.
@cryptokingstechgaming5826 How do you think anyone anywhere does reviews? They send you gear to test out, you review it. Look back at other reviews where he states what he thinks about printers that haven't ended up being recommended. It's the same set up. Being sent a printer to review isn't getting paid, you just don't understand the process.
Seems similar to Formlabs. Price is a little cheaper than the Form3, hopefully resin is cheaper than Formlabs $150 to $250 per liter. Formlabs software has one touch printing also where it auto arranges and does all the settings based on their resin. A lot of their resins require heated curing at 60 to 80 degrees C to get the full potential out of the material. I just got a Form 2 and have been learning about it....we will see how well it works because it was kind of used and abused 😆. Already dismantled it, cleaned spilt resin off some internal electronics....broke it, fixed it a little, broke it some more and then finally got it working. This past 5 hrs has been a rollercoaster for me haha
The price is good for a hassle-free experience, exactly what small business are looking for, but only if it's really hassle-free, good auto-supports and all
Exactly, the hassle free experience needs to be all encompassing. Meaning everything including auto supports, auto orientation etc etc, need to be hassle free. If there is any thing that makes it like any other 3D printer it would loose its hassle free benefit fairly quickly due to price. But so far its looking good.
Nice preview, I was wondering if there was resin fumes and how it was handled ? I like that this 3D printer has doors and covers that if someone is in a wheel chair he or she would have better access and less trouble in working with this set up. So far I like how this 3D Resin printer is standing up in the community.
Formlabs has already done this -- ages ago, not sure how this is revolutionary, it's just based on msla, not sla. You pay for a closed ecosystem and it just works. I have a form3, it just works, at a price. It aint cheap. Question is how much do you want to pay for the "just works" experience. I've not had a failed print on my form3 ever, only prints I've had to re-print are when I've intentionally re-oriented a part against the PreForm slicer objections.
Are the resins calibrated for dimensional accuracy or guaranteed successful prints? Just wondering
wow this looks interresting. Im really new to the 3d resin print scene and I have to say this looks like something I would invest in! Going to be following this closely! Looking in to 3D printing 3D rod puppets for physical indoor/out door performances and this looks like a fantastic setup for that! Thanks for the video and the information! Good work!
I just Ordered this today! for models, stands and some minor business things. Thank you for the help into deciding between you and other videos(and my recent bonus) this seemed to be good for newcomers like me. I'll come back when I get hands on and start printing!
How ya liking the new printer. I would also like to order one.
thoroughly impressed with this printer. just gonna wait to get it next year since its price range is a bit beyond me at this time. hopefully, prices would go down significantly by then.
Can this printer be used with a usb stick and other slicer? I don't want to depend on company proprietary software.
And can you put different resin in the their resin box so that you can still have auto fill and 8k Elegoo resin for example?
I believe the WIFI functionality on the wash and the cure station is for them to send the wash and the cure time to the mashines for the specific model you're printing. They calculate it for you (I believe I saw that in another video)
with the vast majority of resins you can't over cure so being so specific with cure times is pointless
I doubt it's actually the case, but if they've actually figured out autosupports that work well, that's a full magnitude more important than any of the physical hardware here. There are people out there right now making their full-time living doing supports for patreons and kickstarters because automatic supports simply aren't there yet.
You show GREAT, videos, keep then coming. Like and added to 3D printer playlist
Thank you, I will
the wifi on the wash and cure station made me think of how cool it would be to get wash complete or cure complete notifications on my phone.
Cheers for the shoutout, it really is an awesome looking piece of kit 🙂
No problem 👍thanks so much for the same. Yeah, most beautiful printer out there!
I like how he bends and breaks the model at 5:00 then swaps over to the other leg like it was planned, good impromptu recording.
Informative video, let's hope these guys give the resolution chasers a wake up call.
Print a transparent Predator, and paint it half cloacked.
Those look very cool.
My only gripe is the combo is around $3000 here without shipping (looking closer to $3500)
Which from what I see is $2500 for their auto exposure feature. I will wait for the full release and break down before I decide but I haven't bought any printers yet and I really want that top notch bang for buck Resin printer for my medium.
It's less than $1800
@@SamySuzern the combo is $3000 HERE. Reading comprehension helps when replying. As I stated I don’t have all the things on hand I would be looking at the set not the printer alone
Can you find out about the possibility of 3rd party material support? This is a bit restrictive and reminds me of the lock-in that Formlabs creates with they proprietary systems.
$1,400 is a lot for a printer *[and that's for JUST the printer]* I can get a printer made to work in actual metal with sintering for around that price. Not to mention, this is designed to become the same sort of product as laser/ink jet printers as already mentioned by others.
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umm, what $ in usd it said $749?
It looks like it has most of QoL improvement that we all want. I feel like real 8k is already the ceiling for printing miniatures and Producer should just strive to find a balance between QoL and prices. Hopefully this kind of competition will force the major brands to adapt.
Out of my budget at the minute but that type of plug and print looks VERY appealing
Hi there! I love your channel. But, can I STRONGLY disagree about resolution? 😆You already showed in your videos that when you have big voxels, when you paint the result is quite different than when the voxels are tiny or well anti-aliased. I agree that under 35 microns you need a microscope... BUT the texture and appearance of the surfaces changes A LOT and can be noticed at naked eye when we go to 20 microns.
By the way, I agree with you about ACF films: it seems to be blurring and introducing an unintended "texture" to everything.
You aren't wrong in principle, but even on those smaller micron printers like the Mini 8k with it's 22 micron prints, you need to enable Antiailiasing x2 and image blur x2 to remove all voxel and layer lines.
When you do the same on a sub 35 micron printer, it also removes all voxel and layer lines.
So there's a slight reduction in sharpness on the larger micron printers, but I'd challenge anyone to realistically see it.
@FauxHammer with this coming which are you thinking the gktwo or telex for people looking to up their game in the near future?
Nice looking printer, this feels like what Bambu are doing for the FDM. Not going to be for everyone but people doing small runs of prints for sale, the workflow is where your money is going and it’s going to be absolutely worth it for them.
Having three separate devices means you have a proper production line, not having to keep reconfiguring the wash/cure like I have to on the Anycubic.
For me the higher the resolution the better, makes polishing much faster and easier.
I use transparent resin for silicone injection molds. If you add some color to the silicone its amazing to watch how it fills the transparent mold.
Very nice. However while watching I guessed with their resin it would cost a bit more. Checked and saw they charge more than a bit. Its $59 to $99 for 1000g per bottle of resin. Still looks like a great machine but I think many will get it, use a bottle of their resin, then re-use the bottle with less expensive aftermarket resins. At least the people who can't justify spending that kind of money for resin.
I don't have a 3D Resin Printer but this set up appeals to me. Except for the price however if I can get the set up unit by unit I may be able to work this out. Waiting to read your take on this set up.
In one of those weird synchronicity things that makes people think fate is real, I was just thinking "I wonder if there's a resin equivalent to Bambu out there?"
This certainly fits the bill. But... there's one big difference: if I use my X1C with Bambu's own filament, there's no fiddling about with settings. That's similar to HeyGears approach here. *BUT*. I can put any spool I want to on the X1C. Sure, I need to do a little testing when I first start a new type of filament to get the settings perfect, but that only needs to be done once. And so I can go with generic filament for almost half the cost, rather than being tied into Bambu's branded supply.
It doesn't seem like that's an option here. And yes, I realise there's a hazmat issue with printing resin and the proprietary bottle-becomes-feed-system really helps minimise that issue. But it still stands out as a big deal. Having the *choice* to get the high quality branded supplies when it suits me or to use the lower-cost generic stuff when that's good enough is an important factor in evaluating something like this.
I don't mind being in some walled gardens. Bambu has done a good job of making their slicer and so forth just a little smoother and easier to use while still giving me the option to go to, say, Prusa if there's a problem. Knowing that I can (mostly) leave the garden if I need to makes me much more comfortable just sitting inside it. HeyGears doesn't seem to offer those options. Granted that this is probably out of my budget even if it was absolutely perfect; but I'd be more willing to consider it if there was an option to use anyone's resin, and a way to use any slicer.
i think this is that, i give it 5 minutes before Chuitubox or Lychee can slice for this and you can pour in whatever resin you like. or just use an empty bottle of their resin which has 2 screw caps and pour in a litre or 2 of your own
@@FauxHammerin which case I buy your resin, which happens to be water washable, durable, and apparently as detail capable as Heygears.
Good livestream yesterday too. I learned a lot. I’m not a member yet but may be soon, and with this printer.
On that note if you want some models to print, I’ve got some unreleased artwork if your interested in a challenge ;)
I'm looking to upgrade, and have been looking at the Uniformation GKtwo and the Concepts3D Athena, and for me the smart force sensor of the Athena is making me really consider pre-ordering that model, although it doesn't have resin heating. This machine does look fantastic, but at almost £2,000 its beyond the scope of what I can buy for hobbying. This is good for the 3D printing industry though, more competition and better quality and features is going to keep driving the industry forward, and the top features will eventually be found in all price ranges of machines. Exciting times!
It will have a heater very soon
The problem is that it's expensive. VERY expensive. It's interesting though. These features really do tempt me because it does a lot. It's a touch similar to the Athena? that has the same lift top and so I wonder if they are related in any way. This is a no-go price for the "it just works" general populace. Honestly, I think it needs to be 1000-1250 in order to attract people. it's 1750 for the whole kit for me. That and I'll have to pay a premium for their resin unless they allow people to use those bottles for other resins. I would rather them reduce the cost of the unit and make up the money on the resin or vice versa. It's GREAT innovation, but at that price, I'll have to wait until others do it.
That seems amazing...
mmmm so cool to see innovation
IF YOU LIVE ON THE EAST COAST USA:
HeyGears Shipping Pricing is a real concern!
If you get the reflex combo and all available resins, shipping cost from our “LOCAL” warehouse will be $335.00 on top of the 2200.00 for the items themselves. There are 7 areas of shipping pricing in the US alone… from California (area 1) its “only” $198.15. East coast is of course area 7. The US East Coast has the highest shipping cost of all available pre-order areas, including internationally, except for a few (not all) locations in Australia! WTH?!?
Also bottle of resin after launch will be 89.00 + 14.7 + tax… so 110.38est 😮
It is NUTS to having that wide of a shipping cost spread over the US for the intended demographic of these products. And it will (and should) loose them customers because of it.
Interesting product - very tempting as I’d just like a resin printer that is plug and play, novelty of bed levelling and faffing with exposure settings and failed prints has worn off now - the 3D printer is more a tool for me to produce items for hobbies, instead of purely a hobby by itself.
the proprietary resin is putting me off though 🤔
Not a fan of that wash station sadly - don’t have the space for it and anywhere I would put it, would be shaken too much by it shakin’ it’s shimmy, will stick with current wash and cure station - even with its lift off lid
Only thing missing with this, auto resin filling.
Imagine that being together with raise sensors.
Less spillage and faster prints.
Having just ordered a Saturn 3 (upgrading from a Mars Pro), I think that the next time I come to change printers, this will be more mainstream and therefore affordable. Yes I know I'm saying this and I've just bought a Saturn 3, but that was on offer and I had to save up for it. Good review though as usual. I do agree with the lid comment though, I have got to find somewhere to put the Saturn where I can also lift the lid off. If you didn't know, the Saturn's height is 567.3 mm. That's over half a meter! But I pretty much have to add that again for taking the lid off. Doors are definitely a better idea.
Agree 100%
With all it's flaws, the lid on my Halot Mage Pro is WAY more convenient than lifting off my Saturn 2 lid.
I'm always banging the Saturn lid against something - the overhead lights, the printer next to it, etc. Not only that but the lid is hard to hold while maneuvering it around obstacles, it's almost impossible to keep sticky resin fingerprints off it, and I'm forever looking for a place to set the lid down where I won't trip over it. (with all that said, I'll probably get a Saturn 3 Ultra when supply/demand/price eventually stabilize.)
I’ve seen it’s £1500 for bundle. How much for just printed. This does look epic. The best yet.
$749 i think
@@FauxHammer that’s rather reasonable. Not a budget printer but not silly money either.
Great concept, hugely expensive to own and operate. I hate to think about the cost of parts, these styles of machine with force sensor technology is definitely the future. It’s easy to rave about support when a company is in its development stage of a product, but from personal experience in the past that support either becomes a paid for service or evaporates away like it never happened. With this company trying to break into the home hobbyist market from a pure business oriented product line, expect costs to shoot up, you’ll probably get good after sales service for the first year with limitations and then upgrade paths for better service and support at a price.
Anyway interesting video as always 👍
They aren't trying to break into the home hobbyist market necessarily, but rather small printfarms and the like. If you have six printers continuously printing off miniatures for example, then the workflow and QoL can make a significant difference.
Funny story about the 'future of 3D printing'. A few months ago I got serious about working up my ultimate 3D resin printer that does full color, and along the way I found method to convert most ball screw-style printers to negate all peel force and print almost in real time; my R&D test mule went from a full plate 98mm tall print that was doing 9hrs and 38 minutes to 34 minutes. Best part, all it cost me was a bit of time and about $100 in materials. I haven't gotten deep enough to see how fast it's going to burn out a screen, but I suspect it will need a stack of them in the near future.
Wow how is that possible?
@@Cw99612 Normally I'd guard my prototypes rather zealously, but I'd rather pursue other variations so if you know someone who can help, it wasn't too difficult. You need a base printer with a very stout UV source, collimated lens and a reasonably accurate LCD screen. Basically you're going to invert the whole machine and lower the printer arm into a large container of resin, printing almost continuously on the surface of the resin (essentially the upper most layer of your part) as the platform lowers. Syncing up the platform to the exposure rate was the interesting part but totally doable. Also becomes paramount to design parts with the assumption that they will need to vent inverted of normal.
I suspect this is why DLP printers exist, but for the lack of over 2k resolution and larger print plates, I stuck with an LCD screen, as much as I loath their fallible life cycles.
@@C-M-Eif you’ve got an effective prototype, you should chase this as there’s likely some ways to optimize the final product. Bottom up printers are convenient in terms of cost and reliability but if you can use the same equipment for a top down machine that’s just as good and prints significantly faster, I think you’d have a marketable product. Personally I prefer top down machines but they generally cost 4 to 5 figures on the low end…
The alternative would be to try and pitch the idea to a company who’s got capital and is willing to contract things out with you but that’s rather risky territory.
i hope they add a feature that when you pop in a resin bottle and it can sit thare untill you use it and then releases the resin in to the fat when you want to use it that would be so awsome
Even the pre-sale prices are absolutely bonkers, but the care that they put into their machines, resins, and customer support seems pretty evident. I do chafe pretty hard at the closed resin ecosystem - but I also don't see anything mechanical that would prevent you from refilling one of those well-designed resin bottles with something of your own...the only catch would be if the slicer couldn't be trained to work with 3rd-party materials.
Ultimately, I'm going to stick with the poor-friendly resin printing equipment I already have (Phrozen Sonic Mini 4K and Anycubic Wash & Cure station). However, if I won the lottery I'd consider giving this a closer look.
The distance between the handles and the plate looks concerning. Especially with my long lanky hands.
Are you able to refill the proprietary bottles and use custom settings for third party resins? Or are they locked in with an RFID chip (or somethimg like that) like other proprietary resin printers? I can understand having your own that "just work" but I sometimes need to use specialty third party resins with specific properties and also wouldn't want to be stuck with a non-functional printer if they ever stop production for whatever reason.
Not gonna lie... This makes me think of the FormLabs Form 3 printers and their cartridge based resin system. The only concern I have is the costs. Formlabs is a lot higher than any other option I have seen. I have seen a few other companies try a resin tank but it usually created a lot more headache than necessary if you swap resins a lot. (Though for industrial applications this type of thing makes more sense.)
i have given them this feedback. but having now tried all their resins, I'm just goanna stick with the PAM10
For mini's, would you say PAM10 beats out existing resins? The price tag seems prohibitively steep@@FauxHammer
Looks like an MSLA Formlabs clone without much innovation in comparison, and at a similarly high (albeit much lower) price point that most hobbyists won't be able to justify.
The whole 3D printing ecosystem sounds great, but the question remains - how closed off is it? If the cheapest resin you can buy is £100/L it's just not affordable for the vast majority of consumers. Or if the company goes under, or stops supporting that model of printer, so you can effectively no longer use it. If they released an open source resin bottle that you could alter the parameters of that would be great, but I that seems to go against what they're trying to push with this.
That being said, it's good that Formlabs have some competition. But the closed system is really not the direction I think 3D printing should head, and having worked with similar machines in the past, the price difference is mainly for the cosmetic appearance/'ecosystem', rather than the functionality.
looking forward to this one.
it's a good one! I'm excited to share it. I;ve had to say quiet for weeks!!!!
maybe the wifi is for further integration too - to like connect to a camera and show progress or like control and such from out of the room, or if like a power outage is detected it can send you a message and when power is then re-detected (since the 'on' unit would be off - then power restored, and power comes back on) - can alert again, and allow you to resume or something? I dunno but I like that it has the options, even if they don't come to be, over being stripped down to the basics like other companies do.
machine is great, but out of price range for most I think, especially for the actual build volume. (198x123x220 height) its a bit smaller than current printers are doing, but who knows.
I do love the resin bottle ideas as well, but most of the tweaking and auto settings limit you to their resin (as most resins don't tell you their compounds in great enough detail to compile a list of exposure settings to use for 'your' machine) but it also opens the door to some monopolization of prices on them. I mean, you only need "1 bottle" and just fill it with whatever you want to print - but at the same time, it's just a bad feeling thanks to previous companies all doing similar things to exploit and greed. (Apple I am lookin at you, same with you HP printers)
It's a bit all over, in a good way though. If nothing else, maybe it will help companies like Elegoo actually INNOVATE a new design, instead of just.. 'practically the same as last design'
Agreed. If it pushes innovation then that’s what matters.
Use the transparent resin for "unobtanium" brake lights for a vintage car.
So basically a comapny what to relase a product and sent you a "prototype" and you are in a awe that they a replying to all your questions (when you are the only one or one of the few that can even ask the quiestions), and you compare it to companys that have released the product and have thousends of customers, and in your mind they do not treat you the sam3 way(eke special)?
WOW how can they be so responsive?
I do not understand what is so unique about the unit expect the fact that you are happy with your interaction with the company.
One thing you mentioned is thee sensors for the build plate, but I would need more details how it works and how good it is. Once leveled I never had to level again any of my printers (but I always use magnetic plates).
If you had any idea what contact is like from many of the other brands. you'd understand why I'm so impressed with these guys. Watch my Creality Mage pro video for a prime example.
But as a reminder, this is not a review, it's a preview, it's not ready yet. just an agreement with the company to help them launch and get the word out.
I'll share my full opinions later when I do a review.
Unless there is a way to use 3rd party resins (like Siraya Tech), there is absolutely no way I'm buying this. The benefits they're promising couldn't possibly make up for being forced to use their proprietary resins. Maybe get that message to them too 😃If I could pour Siraya Tech resin in a Hey Gears bottle and tell the slicer that's the resin I'm using and it still makes a perfect print, they could steal the resin 3D printing market.
IF YOU LIVE ON THE EAST COAST USA:
HeyGears Shipping Pricing is a real concern!
If you get the reflex combo and all available resins, shipping cost from our “LOCAL” warehouse will be $335.00 on top of the 2200.00 for the items themselves. There are 7 areas of shipping pricing in the US alone… from California (area 1) its “only” $198.15. East coast is of course area 7. The US East Coast has the highest shipping cost of all available pre-order areas, including internationally, except for a few (not all) locations in Australia! WTH?!?
Also bottle of resin after launch will be 89.00 + 14.7 + tax… so 110.38est 😮
It is NUTS to having that wide of a shipping cost spread over the US for the intended demographic of these products. And it will (and should) loose them customers because of it.
Shipping is free on orders over $399 in the US. Maybe that wasn’t the case initially? Companies like heygears usually have distribution centers located across the world to
minimize shipping costs to customers. It’s a nice plug and play printer. It’s not for everyone due to its price, and it being a walled garden. I’m considering buying one because I like what it offers, but I’m waiting for the Athena to become available to compare the two. GKtwo is also a great and affordable printer. Competition is a good thing. 😊
can you please tell me what kind of files the slicer converts the finished supported files into? like what kind of files are these? is it possible to open the finished auto supported files with lychee and chitubox? i would like to use the program to auto support my sculpts. that would save me alot of time...
So kinda like what FormLabs has been doing for years with their printers. Only this one is beta and not marketed directly to engineers and dentists. Right?
At AUD2,500 it's bit expensive for home use.....especially when most other common brands sell the same specs for under AUD800
For the clear resin you could do the crystal skull from Indiana Jones.
Seems like a really nice printer :)
It is!
Any update to this printer? Still a good choice for my new resin printer ?
Wow , That's Fantastic...I sent them an email, hope they will let me take a look! I love the whole system of it. I wish it was a bit bigger print volume . I have my Halot Mage 8k , almost running 24/7. I really need to get another resin printer...I need to print more and more and more lol.
This is a beast
I would hope that if you are one of only a few people with the printer they'd have support people to assist. But what will the actual consumer experience be?
Proprietary bottles? That's not good.
Exposure is easy to get with the Cones of Calibration, just use the proper test.
Proprietary slicer? That's not good.
Printer area size is small for the price. For someone who wants an XL size printer for statues.
Wash station is ridiculous. No, that's horrible, shaking the whole unit. Plus it can lead to damage of the 3D prints.
Cure station with mirrored walls is a good idea, but it's too small.
Build quality does look good. Heated vat is good.
Cost though, yikes!
$2k USD is a bit steep though. It looks promising but they really should have done a kickstarter and started with lower pricing and used that time between to figure out how to get the price down.
Its smaller then the Athena and will likely be about the same cost as it MSRP.
Then having proprietary resin bottles to have the auto fill doesn't sound good either.
Would be nice if they did like 3rd party ink cartridges on printers where you can use one that can be refilled.
The question I have about this is do we have to use their curing station? Surely could use any other washing station, but not sure about curing.
The thing is it's already twice the price of GKtwo with resin easily twice as expensive and those 2 additional stations are making it even worse.
no, use whatever curing station you want
I am already Sold.
As someone who has only had a printer for 3 weeks, they are not complicated to use at all. The quality of my mars 3 far exceeds any miniatures you can buy off the shelf, including warhammer. I would never buy a printer that locks you into anything proprietary. That's a huge no no. The shaking doesn't sound like something I would want but I guess it would depend on how much it vibrated everything around it.
the price is steep, but from this review I'd say its all worth it despite proprietary resin. The main issue is that they do not seem to ship worldwide yet, which is quite mind boggling.
So they've done for resin what Bambulab has done for PLA? Ie; (from what I could see) you can use any resin/pla you want, but using their own stuff's so much easier?
Looks like more plastic wrapping than my FDM prints 😅
Any headsup for the final model? really wanna buy it
I’m very interested in the concepts this printer is promoting. The price is just too steep for what I’m willing to risk for my first resin printer. Unfortunately, we’re all in the early stages of a new consumer product revolution. Much like how TVs used to be insanely expensive and are now dirt cheap, 3D printers are in that early adoption phase of their life cycle. In a decade, the current top-tier machines will all look archaic and the prices will probably be much lower across all brands. Sadly, I want one now and not a decade from now. :P
HeyGears or GK2?
If you had to pick one.
Might make a good video.
Go Two for most people. Easier to just make a comment. Lol
Wouldn't quite say those miniatures are plastic level production quality, but they are decent.
£1600 is not cheap for a printer with such a small build volume and £48 per 1000ml of resin and that's the offer price, the normal price is £79 per bottle! This might make things easier but it sure as hell isn't for beginners or average ya Joe, I print and sell models all over the world and I'd struggle to justify those costs to clients.
A large gremlin that takes 4L of resin cost £32 per bottle for elegoo abs Vs £79, also they should just sell the printer because unless I'm missing something (very possible🤤) it seems like a comb deal and I definitely don't want another wash or cure station..
it dosnt have ventilation?
Hi what is the printer like with it not having any air filters?
5 bottles of resin for $450 dollars. 🎉🎉
1-proprietary resins is a tough sell. 2- if their algorithm doesn't put supports in the right spot, can it print your own supports? Auto-supports are notoriously inconsistent.
A lot of the new features sound like they are nice to have but not something I am willing to pay so much for. What interests me is the claimed ability to orient and support a print automatically. The auto support feature of popular slicers like Lychee and Chitubox is far from perfect, thus, I'd be very surprised if this is truly a plug and print solution. If it REALLY does what it advertises, then yeah, it may be a solution worth paying this much for as it would save hours of meticulously prepping supports of highly detailed models.
Looking to much like Formlabs the monsters of SLA
It looks too much like one of the best printers you can get?
I was pretty interested in this, proprietary resin feels like a little bit of a risk if the prices change but the system seems great, i was also willing to see the value at £1500, all in but no resin, but turns out these prices dont include vat, this printer is amazing on paper, but is it really worth almost double the cost of a gktwo? Especially if resin not on sale will be £70+tax?
I was very excited by the product but im not sure the costs are justified even with the build quality of the machine.
Got a HeyGears, and I've been struggling. Many of the prints have been failing, most likely because the models are small and the supports are insufficient. There is a little tool handle test print that comes with the printer, and I printed that first. What do I use this little tool (a metal thing with three oblong holes, and a handle that screws on)? Is it used to remove the sheet that forms when the whole print bed is flashed to remove a bad print?
I been looking at new printers to buy and came across this. Has me really interested. Was gona buy tje uniformation gk2 but think i might wait on this and see.
Nice.
Did I miss the M5s film test? Seems like this has been drawn out ridiculously.
it's not out yet, it hasn't been drawn out... Please bare in mind that i shared the M5s shorts and then it took me a couple of weeks to create that review. i didnlt get the M5 until a good week or so after that came out. I'm editing the video now and the first part will be out next week which is the M5 review.
the M5s comparison will be out the following week
As I said in this video, this is not my job. it's my side hobby. I don't have a whole studio and staff dedicated to this, it's me.
Kinda looks like they're trying to compete with the Form 3. Even looks like the form 3.
If they get the right and it’s looking like they have. Then people will go all in given ‘it just works’ Why apple tech is so popular even with a walled garden. Folk will live with that for ease of use.
Wonder if they’d do this with FDM
What were the models that were shown at 1:19? they look great and would love to print some.
Had 1 BIG question... could not find the answer on their site (I'm prob blind ). Is this a LCD or DLP printer? I'd guess DLP as nowhere did they mention 4K, 6K, 12K etc.
It’s LCD. They haven’t listed the K because it’s not a comparable metric. Compare the pixel size
It's uses an LCD mask with a COB UV LED light source.
So it's basically the same ideology behind Formlabs? Proprietary "engineered" resins, a reskin of PreForm, and a "just works" claim for a moderate to high price for the average consumer? Now I think this is a better deal than something like the Form 3 for the average person but I don't think it's the solution to someone tinkering with wanting to print some minis. This to me strikes that prosumer territory where you're trying to monetize your hobby.
Edit: So it looks like the presale price of just the printer is $980 USD so in line with something like the Anycubic M3 Max. So while I still don't like proprietary resins it's not as bad as I originally thought.
I agree with this point for this printer: trying to monetize the hobby