The Ultimate HeyGears Reflex RS P Review - PERFECT PRINTING MADE EASY!!!
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00:00 - Intro
The lesson I learned with my Ender 3 was that I HATE calibration. It reminded me of the guys in High School that spent more time working in their cars than driving them.
That’s why I got a Bambu X1c. I just want to print stuff. The first time.
I have an Elegoo Mars 3 that sits unused because I can’t figure out what’s wrong with it and I don’t have time to get a degree in additive manufacturing or chemistry just for my hobby.
I just want to design things on my pc and have a machine make it real. Period! I have no time or inclination to d1ck around with it.
Thank you SO MUCH for this video. $1200 seems like a lot. But Ive wasred $600 just trying to get my $300 printer to make a thing.
I want this. I’m glad you made this despite the hate you received.
Thanks, and this is exactly where we are, people like you who wnat this now have the choice to buy it and you'll get that exact experience. it;s still messy coz resin, but you will have the accurate "thinG" you wnat to print easily.
I'm getting hate for this one too!
Absolutely agree. When I started 3D printing, I got the original ender 3, believing I was saving money and could learn the ends and outs of the machine. When I realized I needed something that was plug and print when My Gf stated "you spend more time building and modifying it then printing" I sold it at that point and got the ender S1 Pro and then the Bambu X1 and have never really had a problem since.
Made the same mistake when I got into resin printing got a cheaper anycubic and the problems that thing caused me I could rage about all day. I got rid of that and got the GKtwo thanks to this and other channels. In short Faux knows what he is talking about.
Hey Gears is costly but honestly, it really does seem Plug and play. Based off my experience the machine seems worth it and I will be following it closely. And yeah, the System is locked into its own stuff, but ask yourself, if you knew your print was going to come out perfect every time you made something, is it even worth using other materials and print failure, wasted resin, clean up and the like?
Either way if you don't like the machine, dislike the machine, don't hate the messenger. Honestly, without this channel and others like it would any of us be into this craft at all? Faux, you're doing a great job
@@FauxHammer I _have_ the pro-background, and I agree most consumer printers of the "Frozen AnyGoo" types are utter 💩, even on a good day.
But, this Heygears Reflex RS printer seems very primo, a beginner will love it because "it just works" and a pro will love it out of appreciation of how good it is. The cost is worth it if one's time isn't worthless 🙂
No problem at all with your videos on these HeyGears printers, too bad you don't like Voxeldance Tango, if you got over your Tango complex, you could get similar superior autosupport results on your other printers that you have as the HeyGears gets with BluePrint slicer.
With the pre-sale price, the Heygears Reflex RS is way more worth it than the "Revo", not even in the same league.
_Full disclosure - I bought the Heygears Reflex RS with the peel-pump heated-vat combo and I own 8 other printers, too (but no Frozen AnyGoo types)_
@@GUEST-mq3nr agree 100% I just want it to work. I don't want to be a printer tech lolol
100% agree!
The printer looks great enough, but proprietary resin is a hard pass for me unfortunately. I have multiple printers and don’t want to use different resins for different machines. Not to mention the potential price gouging…
@@LPP_YT you can use your own resins mate. James at Rising Alr showed it and another channel called Greedy3D has done loads of tests
Honestly? If I was running a print farm where resin printing was part of the service (or I was making decent money from my printers) then this would be the go to choice. The time saved from mucking around with getting the resin dialled in, the supports right and so on would more than make up for the extra cost and propriety resin to be able to just, to quote, drag, drop, go.
To know that the print will come out bang on and with the turn around time being shorter (due to the previously mentioned faffing around) means the client/customer gets their print at the highest quality in the shortest turn around which means time saved=money saved=more prints=more money made... and the price isn't anywhere near as bad as I was expecting either (even the full, non discounted pre-order price).
Talking about build plates, I don't understand why companies aren't copying the GKtwo's build plate design in their newer printers. No resin on the top of my build plate is one of my favorite aspects of the printer and why it's still my top choice. It may seem like a small thing, but once you experience it, you'll never want to go back.
Yeah I hear you. That style is still my fave by far
I don’t mind proprietary resin AT ALL if it’s affordable and leads to better results/ease of use. My Saturn 4 Ultra died after a month (user error, overfilling->tons of leakage through tilting vat). Everyone needs to understand that there are plenty of people that don’t know what exposure settings even are but just want to 3D print, and this seems like the perfect printer for that. Sure an open system would be nice, but only for those that are enthusiasts and know a lot about 3D printing and how to dial in resin, which let’s be honest here that’s not the majority of people and it never will be. After owning sonic mini 8k, Saturn 4 ultra, mars 5 ultra (all very impressive printers that I loved), I just received the Reflex (non-RS) and right out of the box you can tell the build quality is absolutely next level. This is not a toy, this is a machine I trust to be used by my employees at my dental clinic that know nothing about 3D printing (unlike all the others I’ve owned before)
I understand all the tech, all the settings, and have ZERO interest in that being my hobby I want 3D printers, FDM or resin to be tools for my real hobbies. This, much like the two Bambu Lab printers I used instead of the five other FDM I have, would likely relegate my two Elegoo resin printers to the dusk-collection shelf.
@@S.A.S.H. I think that's probably where the biggest disagreements about things like this come in: for some 3D printing is the hobby, and for others (I'm with you) 3D printing is a tool to facilitate hobbies. An expensive tool, mind, but then some people have very expensive hobbies as well.
@@jaym2381 100%.
Yep. Exactly what I meant. Well said!
You want the jazz of a printer without learning how it works
I dont think it's overpriced, it just simply costs to much to purchase one. A lot of people got into printing to save money because a hobby they loved was to expensive (me included) which should tell you something about the communities fun budget. It's like walking into a village where everyone only eats potatoes and talking about how wonderful the new chocolate bar is. Im not saying dont do it, im just saying dont be surprised when folks give a knee jurck emotional response ❤
I don't think that this is targeted towards hobbyists. Its more for professional use.
@@evanskan6326 fair point 😁
they also sell industrial printers, they cost much more this I would class as prosumer
@@evanskan6326 This is definitely targeting pros and hobbyists, just at a certain bracket. Kinda like Bambu did with the X1Carbon.
If they want to guarantee and support perfection in printing with their machines with proprietary resin, more power to them. But that doesn't mean the machine needs to be locked down to their resin. I doubt they claim that other resins will damage the machine in some way that would prevent their resins from working again. So no problem. They can say "this is out of the box, hands down, the best prosumer resin printer system when used with our resins. With other resins, YMMV and don't call us." This would solve everyone's issues, and still sell tons of their resin if it's really that good and that easy.
If they say no to this, then it means just one thing: they want to get their money selling you overpriced, and yes, I mean overpriced, resin. Period. Same as the inkjet printer makers. And they deserve, in that case, to be called out, and to have an industry built up around jailbreaking their resin system.
They can’t just say don’t call us with other resins. People will still call and say “I’m using a good resin, your machine is crap.” No one fact checks consumer reviews.
They would need a way to validate what resin was used.
They don't say it will damage/destroy your printer, they do say they don't support other resins, which means just that. Don't try to use the fault ticket system if your print doesn't come out OK, because they simply won't help - and have no obligation to do so. The cat is already out of the bag that other resins work fine, and they haven't stopped providing review equipment to the reviewer that tested that (the opposite, in fact). Don't expect them to go announcing it though. Why should they?
I'm saving for such a beast and waiting for my Mars 3 to end itself. The quality difference I got going from a Anycubic FDM to a Bambu Labs P1S was amazing. If this printer does as you say in the resin world, it would definitely be the path I take.
It may be a long wait, my Mars Pro is still going fine 7 years on.
Thanks again Ross for another great review. This is exactly what I want, a drag and drop resin printer system. I currently print FDM after my friends started printing, I got the bambu lab x1 carbon based on your videos. That was a great decision, as the quality of my prints are so good compared to my friends that they have stopped FDM printing them selves and I print there stuff for them. The people commenting on all of the locked aspects of these systems don’t see the point of these aspects saves time, as you know the quality and standards you’re going to get before you start the print. I know some people like the journey of the print set up, but for me I got into printing because I liked producing stuff, and now I want to print minis. So for me a locked system that guarantees quality, and allows me to enjoy the prints more and not have to waste time and material trying to get something to work is the perfect solution. As from my view point I’m buying the time to enjoy my prints, which I guarantee over 1-2 years for printing time with this machine will save me money from not wasting material on failed prints, the headaches of calibration, and disappointment of random failures.
Yep that;s it. It saves time that it;s the difference between.
"Ohhhh, I want to print that, but first i need to X"
and
"oooh, I want to print that, Print"
@@FauxHammer as I had someone say to me the other day, you don’t buy a 2d printer and spend time worrying about the dpi, you buy what gives you the results you want. For me this is how the majority of people look at 3d printers, as they don’t want the fails and the constant tinkering, they want the one button press to print system.
@@ashmonkeyflash2942 Thank you! yes! thankyou so much!
I’ll admit majority of my misprints are due to a ID10T error on my part. Normally my rushing due to forgetting to print it the day before.
So for myself I don’t have a need for this printer, but saying that I can see its appeal to new users and less technical or skilled users.
The only time I have ever heard a RUclipsr reference polyamory to compare the love of multiple things.
I'm an FDM guy who has a massively modified Ender 3 V2 and has stepped back from the "printers as a project" with the Bambu X1C. I've avoided resin like the plague because I have no desire to deal with learning a new set of proficiencies along with all the safety requirements that come along with resin. The Heygears is the only printer I'm actually considering because it minimizes the knowledge I'd have to pick up. Now if only someone could make non-toxic resin.... :)
Well put, I;ve seen a lot of this lately. Resin is much easier to dial in than FDM, but yeah, Even I'm bored of it to a degree.
HeyGear == FormLabs == BambuLab
That's just insulting towards Bambulab
bambulab is clearly a mistake, HP - maybe, but they are even more anti-consumer
Why am I soo excited about this? Can't wait.
Because GAS Gear Acquiring Syndrome kicking in.
Probably the same reason you were so excited for the CyberTruck...
Please, on top of a Reflex vs Reflex RS video, we also need a comparison video of their resins, that might put to bed a lot of critics. Also a review of all the accessories, their need and functions, would be great for those that just like me want to start resin 3d printing. What are the life spam of the LCDs and other consumables?
Also, if possible, can you make a Reflex RS vs Saturn 4 Ultra? Please!!!😇😅 I'm between this 2 options.
Great video! Thanks
I would think the answer to proprietary resin is simply to compile a public list of third-party resin that is less expensive and works in the machine and produces similar results as the proprietary resin. When users use those resins instead and Hey Gears loses money on resin, they'll either lower prices or open up their ecosystem to certified vendors. The question is whether the hardware and software elements are that much better, that it's worth making that effort. The only retort to that I can think of is that the Hey Gears user-base is very specific, and the cost of resin isn't a factor to them, making it a moot point.
As someone who does not own a resin printer, and therefore have no bias one way or another, I can completely understand Hey Gears wanting to use only proprietary resin in their printers. It allows them to control the quality of the printed product to the nth degree, which is clearly what matters to them the most. Quality. Full stop. If they open it up to other resins, print quality will likely suffer, thus making their equipment seem inferior/flawed to those who don't understand it's likely down to the cheap or poorly tuned resin they were using.
On the other hand, I completely understand the fear of spending a ton of money on a fantastic printer that only uses proprietary resin, which may be a lot more expensive than other resins on the market, and which may at any point become forever unavailable if Hey Gears goes under (yes, I know, they won't) or chooses to stop doing these printers for one reason or another, leaving you with an expensive, useless brick on your bench.
Both arguments make sense. I guess it comes down to whether or not you've got enough money to either not care or blindly trust that, when you buy this Hey Gears printer, the 2nd argument will just never become reality. And if that's the case, then the whole thing is moot and all that's left is to maybe whinge about the cost of the resin, but if you've spent that much money on the printer and its accessories, you likely don't care about that either.
I mean, the detail on that Hey Gears printer is INSANE!! So, if you want/need that, then you pay the cost of entry to get it and you pay for their resin and you enjoy it. It clearly seems to be the Bambu X1C of resin printers. Just simple-stupid to use, with fantastic results every single time. For everyone else, there are really, really good resin printers out there that don't use proprietary resin.
Why argue beyond that?
Damn, youv’e literal just summed up my entire follow-up video in 3 paragraphs!
@@FauxHammer - LOL...sorry mate. Didn't mean to steal your thunder. Just seemed like the most sensible argument, objectively speaking. Really don't understand all the hate directed at this printer or Hey Gears.
@@meadmaker4525 Thanks. good to know in advance you feel this is sensible. Now just to add some pomp and drama to that and I have a Video!
its like apple, ppl feel the same way about them too
And click bait, dont forget the clickbait. @@FauxHammer
Heygears makes Amazing printers, the best in term of printer building, the best in customer support, if you dismantle the printer you can understand why it is the best in class quality made
Easily!
That is a killer printer. Even the Athena printer is right up there with this machine.
Denis Wang gave a really good review of the printer as well, so I'm not sure how to feel about it. I bought the form 1+ a long time ago when it came out and that thing was super expensive to run, and failed on so many level ( hardware ). Once I started having some issues I was never able to get it to work properly again. Really worried about spending so much money and once the printer internal sensors start to fail, I'm left with a brick. Hopefully the printer has good customer service in the long run and can keep working for a long time without issues.
They have been solid with me, and that’s just in the slicer support
I also have a big trauma from my first fdm printer, a Ender 5 S1 i think, and it gave me so many headaches and even tough creality called it their best printer to that time I got only crap out of it. My P1S from Bambu makes factory made high precision prints in comparison. And now I am thinking of going into resin printing and am really considering which printer I should buy, becaue the heygears is good as it seems but also is expensive for me as a student. But I dont want those headaches.
I've been saving up for Heygears for a while and now there is a 2nd one?? @Fauxhammer which one do you think is better the old brother or the new brother? Either way I will either need to buy or will come with heating.
I think the RS is more than good enough for me. I do t need what the RS gives. Like a sluice gate for the resin and a larger control LCD
Hey Ross. Thank you for the discount link. Just ordered the printer heater package. I have been in maching and fabrication for 30 years as well as 3D printing and Industrial printing for 10 years. Been waiting for Consumer resin printers to become more Formlabsish. Like Bambu has done for FDM, Hey Gears is doing for resin. Thanks again.
Hope you enjoy it! I don’t use anything else now
it's either this or the Gk3 for me... I do love how easy this is so might acually go for this one
2 very different machines. But good luck choosing
Does the transfer tool work with the new RS?
I haven't used a lot of printers, but I noticed the screws in the bottom of the build plate. Will those affect what is printed over them? How are they sealed to prevent resin from seeping around them? The base is not flat at those points. Thanks.
Screws in the build plate? That’s what attached the release fil gram to the vat.
Dont worry it’s under a lot of tension. Won’t leak
@FauxHammer I'm referring to the 4 screw holes that seem to connect the mounting mechanism to the plate. As shown at 6:41 in the video when you show the bottom of the plate.
@@rons3580 oh. Yeah I mean resin will go in and probably cure in a bit, but that’s about it
There are a few things I'm not happy about (because I feel like Uniformation does it better), like the buildplate and mounting. But this printer is exciting, I, just like I had with Uniformation, am just waiting for other brands to catch up on the things they do nail. My main concern of propriety resin is ... What if they stop producing it/go broke for some reason, it just bricks your printer. I get why they do it, and it has mayor benefits, but the potential cost is to high. Great video, great printer.
It's way too expensive for me, and although I love my prints to come out perfect, I can make due with the Saturn 2.
Have you tried replacing the resin in an empty box with some standard resin, and seen if it does something?
Yep, it still works. Greedy 3D and Rising ape have tested this. Links to their videos in the description.
I'm understanding it more and more... Gonna have to think about this. Ordered the gk3 because of the integrated heating and the bigger build plate, but this one changes things.. The build plate difference isn't too bad, the lack of heating is the only real problem for me. But that ease of use.... That's really making me think now..
I know which one I’d pick. The GK3 is a bigger GK2. If you need big prints. Get that
Hmmm one thing that they should consider IMO is adding the ability to use a 3rd resin but you lose the ability to use the failed print support. That way if you have a problem with a 3rd party resin your on your own to fix it.
So it turns out you can use any resin Greedy3D and Rising Ape have proved it
@@FauxHammer I should have said by also tweaking the setting like other printers unless they never locked them down in the first place in which case nevermind 😊
Well I just bought the saturn ultra 4 partly based off your review as well as others so Ill have to wait awhile before the wife lets me buy another one. But Ill give this a try when looking for another.
Great review. Proprietary resin totally makes sense for business users. The time savings it makes possible would more than offset any increase in resin cost.
and second question:
Whats the differnece between the Reflex and the Reflex RS ?
Mostly, size, price and official resin capacity.
The reflex has a few more tech features and slight more finish built quality because it’s more metal. And the heater comes as standard
No Fuzz printing, like getting popular in FDM, is very welcoming! It makes the audience broader and as long as the resin is within reason to high quality resins like Sirayatech I really do not care. The risk is they start get greedy BUT all printer makers have had their products challenged by 3rd party replacements, I cannot see any issues refilling bottles. My Saturn 2 will work for many years more but I want easier and higher quality and faster slicing/removal of support.
Uhhh, i would realy like that comparison video on the Refelx and the RS, and im so stoked that they grought out a new printer
Already recorded the audio. Just need tome to edit it. I have other printer reviews to do first.
I want this printer (or it's older brother) - I just can't afford or justify it... yet. I'm still just putzing around with an old HalotOne I picked up used, but eventually I would updgrade to something like this. I like the ease of use and auto-supports you demonstrated. As for the resin - I can live with it because it's not a hobbiest printer. I expect this at the price point they sell their machines.
Great call
Where can you find the pfa film for the pulsing the resin?
It’s on the site now
Ross, any chance you could do a comparison of the GKTwo and the new RS? right now they are in the same price bracket.
I could but they are in 2 different leagues. I’ll probably do this in my end of year roundup.
Thanks another great video love the printer it’s not the complete package there are glaring errors in design but it works and isn’t that what we are all looking for so when it comes to pricing that’s down to the individual What grips me is the way it’s priced against the US market that’s just money grabbing in the exchange rate sad they thought they needed to do it Hey I may purchase got time before the promotion ends PS don’t let the negativity of others ruin your joy
What was their reasoning for making the RS a 405nm wavelength machine to also keep the resin proprietary? Seems odd change to the industry standard wavelength, not make it compatible with their entire line of resins and keep it a locked down system. I thought one of the main reasons for the proprietary resin on the OG Reflex was the 385nm wavelength. Does this open up the RS to be more compatible with other resins?
I don't have an issue with proprietary resins when ease of use is a benefit, but the lack of printing options is something to consider. You can print in your favorite color, as long as that color is Pale Purple. Grey also being an option for near 2x the price.. Wax, colors and transparent resins seem to be missing from the RS menu.
I have a follow up video covering this topic at length.
But turns out you can use your own resin. and PAS10 is nw only $35 a bottle, which is great
@@FauxHammer That's great news, looking forward to listening.
I bought one! First printer for me! Been watching these videos forever trying to decide on one and with the big pre order discount and extra $50 I couldn’t resist. Got the printer with the pulsing release module. I want to buy the cleaning and curating machines they sell too and what not for ease of use but that’ll have to wait a bit
Yeh it’s a great machine and this is a great preview, your videos just get better. I think I am still in love with my Reflex to be honest it’s just so well made it’s unreal.
Thanks brother! I’m actually favouring this one. I like those extra 3cm
I'm glad it's here for the people that would be unable/unwilling to get into 3d printing, but the walled garden and price tag for me is a bit much. I love the idea of the GKTwo as well, but that price is still so offputting. As of right now, my Mars 3 is pulling strong, even if I wish it was bigger. If/when I need to be in the market again, perhaps the convenience factors will sway me then
Hey, if you live your Mars and it’s still going strong… good. It’s an awesome printer and in ways it’s better than the 4 and 5
This will not be for me. I thought the cost for the machine was ok until I looked at the price plus the heater part. Maybe there's something I don't understand but how can a heated tray double the price? That makes it a nonstarter for our house.
I think you are looking at the whole PRM Module, the only thing you need is the Heated Vat itself, which is $200 but currently discounted
Hi Faux Hammer, after all the things you showed us in the video, my question is:
Can this Heygears machine print engineering parts?
Thanks in advance.
Yes, absolutely
@@FauxHammer Thanks.
I absolutely hate proprietary resin but I guess it makes sense and do think it's a very interesting printer worth considering.
Apparently it works just as well with 3rd party resin. Another reviewer has been doing tests for the past couple of months using the Reflex, and just put out a video on using SunLu standard in the RS.
well atleast you can buy them, in mexico we cant haha ):
Ordered mine. I love FDM 3D Printing but I really like the idea of not having the learning curve like I have had with FDM. Can’t wait for it to ship!
Hahah. You sound like a potential Ender 3 user
Nope, I started with an Artillery Sidewinder. I own Prusa now. Just like the idea of not having to instantly learn all the different settings and ways to calibrate with my first Resin Printer.
Has anyone else noticed the large Wolverine Lego guy in the background?
As always thank you for another great review and I am the few who does like HeyGears printer!
Glad someone spotted that. Little preview for you
This looks so good, and would so love to have one, as I am really getting into D&D and other systems and this would be perfect. Your review of this machine and the previous versions were just nails in the coffin to try and convince me.
Thankyou!
So do you need the extra expensive accessories or is the printer alone enough for quality print? Like that vibrating whatever that pumps air in is quite expensive but is it needed?
without it it would preform like a normal printer with the same release film when it comes to releasing, with it it should release with less force so you can have smaller supports and less fails in theory
@awildtomappeared5925 do you like know if their resin is quality is it bendy like abs or idk I print for dnd so my scale is 28mm so durable minis is very important to me. I found elgoos 8k standard to be brittle and broke easily. Curious how expensive this companies resin is
@@zacharysmith5859 I haven't tried their resins so idk, I'm sure they will have some more bendy then elegoo 8k but will cost more
No heater, less than 8k, proprietary resin.... at $900? Does he think this is what we want?
Has no one ever dragged and dropped in their slicer, and gotten a fail? Never? I would need a few prints where that is shown... a complex model drag and dropped and printed with no fails. Msybe 10 tests
I think you missed a few of the points
But mainly, no I do t think it’s what you want. It’s what I want. But these are the facts of the product.
You do you. As I said in the video, if this is not for you. Definitely, don’t buy it.
8K for my GKTwo is fine. And the closer any resin company gets to the ease, and hence fun, of BambuLabs the better. But my GKTwo is going fine so Heygears will have to wait for my dosh 😆
PS: Not least because the pulser and the heater take it back up into Woah!Gears territory (!)
The cost is kinda an issue but its very interesting
Just ordered mine. Thanks for the great info!!
nice printer but cartridge prop resin and cost make it a no for me . great review but personally I am sitting out this generation as my 2 elegoo printers (a mars3 and saturn 3 ultra) do everything i need. I have to agree the build quality looks more pro-sumer than consumer level which explains the price which also puts it out of my range as a retiree.
Totally fair comments and well made. and yeah the Saturn 3 is still an awesome printer!
Common, was about to pull the trigger in the GKTWO and you upload this video...
How does it compares to the Uniformation GK Two 8k ?
in terms of usability, it blows it out of the water.
They could offer all this while letting you use your own resin. You could still have all the benafits while not locking you down. Funny enough if they didn't lock theses printers down to expensive resin only. I'd be buying one and only using their resin if it works. It's about having the choice even when i choice to use their resin.
Just so you know, I saved it for my next video because I didn't realise others would show it so early, you can use your own resin in these
@@FauxHammer That's great news! It'll defintily be on my shopping list for my workshop if other reviews are also as postive as your video!
Not hate just being somewhat realistic. They can offer the assistant service for their resin only, they have no resin for things like action figures etc. So this printer is not even useable for me. I read one resin on their site that seemed useable but the price for 1k to try it and find out it isn't useable is just too high. The price of their resins are higher then Resione. Just a thought buy resione resins, download their chitu settings for your printer and hit print. The only time I have gotten a fail was my own supporting screw up. Ok to be fair I had a fail with my saturn 4 ultra, but Elegoo support helped me out with that fail.
I understand they cannot control other companies resin but Bambu got it right, its plug and print with their own filament but the printer and slicer still has a generic option. If Bambu does not offer their filament in the colors or type I need, the printer is not a desk weight.
This might be the ultimate printer for wargaming minis but it would seem to stop there. Add that each resin bottle is higher then the cost of a Warhammer squad, it makes you wonder if its worth the investment.
I do agree with this, even still.
But if they opened it up. people would abuse that system and say they are using their resin when they arent.
but also, as per other channels. you can just use whatever resin you wnat in these anyway because they are thay good the plate sensor dynamically compensates for excessive pull forces and it seems almot any resin still works fine
when will Hey Gears ship to more countries, many of us have been waiting for a verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry long time for them to ship direct.
I know. It’s crap. They are opening to more territories.
Hi, our online store can now support shipping to more EU countries including Italy, Belgium, Netherlands, Austria, Spain, Lithuania, Cyprus, Ireland, Estonia, Finland, Spain, Lithuania, Cyprus, Ireland, Estonia, Croatia, Latvia, Luxembourg, Malta, Slovakia, Slovenia, Greece.
@@HeyGears what about singapore??
@@HeyGears Engaging with your community here, says a lot! Great work guys!
I want! Need to save and work on a ventilated garage.
Hi Ross, long time follower here, I love your videos.
The system HeyGears is offering its amazing, my only problem with proprietary resins is price.
There are some models I print, for example terrain, which dont demand highest quality resin possible, so I have some opportunity to save some bucks.
Thanks for sharing! Turns out you can use any resin in it Greedy3D and Rising Ape have proved it
Might be time for me to finally get a resin printer.
Pretty sexy right
Thanks for making this. I am sorry the last one hurt your channel.
Thanks for this video, for me privately this printer isn't it. This is mainly because of my limited hobby funds. But I do admire this printer for its quality efficiency and reliability and not to forget its ease of use. If I was asked to advise a printer for a library school or printer farm then this will be it. Time and reliability paired with quality beats the odds in those settings. Just figure having to support (and removal), tuning in the printer to the resin. And next batch of resin reacts differently, you just wasted all that time. Disappointed customers and labor costs. But yes for me personally it is to expensive.
i really wait your review of anycubic new photon mono 4 and for ultra i think its a really solid chois with 7 inch 10k 17microrn lcd . a specially for price 189 usd
After years of elegoo’s and more recently my Saturn 4 ultra’s LCD breaking for the third time (along with one of resin tank bolts becoming fused). I was about to finally make the jump to a gktwo, but this beauty might actually sway me
@@ParamediCass how did you break it three times out of curiosity
Probably makes more sense if Id put Saturn 3 like I was meant to. First one happened within a few weeks. Can't think of anything specifically that caused it, could have been user/warranty issue but I just went ahead and bought a new one. Second one was the better part of a year later, some hardened resin I missed in the tank causing a crack on an attempted print. Third was a few weeks ago, I installed an LCD that was already slightly cracked on arrival and stopped working within a week of normal use.
Dunno if I just had a bad luck with a dud machine as other haven't been that bad. But that thing would lose its zero constantly. Plus the sheer effort it would take to get the tank off because of the bolt issue. Making rezeroing after every 2 prints, real fun…. Its put me off any future bolt tank printers and any printers requiring less faf is a win for me 😅
@ParamediCass wow never heard of this lol I have a cheap mars 4 base model and printed on it twice a day for around a year now and jus now I'm having errors with it to the point where I need to upgrade so I was jus curious
My mars 3 pro still works like a champ with the odd nfep change. Defo a print quaility discrepancy whenever there was super detailed models though
A lot of people that are against proprietary resin have never bought knockoff brand printer ink to save a nickel, and it shows. The poor man pays twice.
yeah, that's fair, but I guess it depends what you want. If (on a 2D printer) i;m just printing shit at home, I don;t care about accurate colour reproduction. if I am printing pro photos. I want a professional printer with the legit ink hands down
here is my take on it. resin printing is full of princesses. and heygears is way missing the mark. for example people dont hate closed systems. look at apple look at bambu. here is what bambu got right. you can make something closed and amazing and charge a little more then a creality or elegoo. heygears isnt even spitting on it first. plus the price point is triple that of a saturn neptune 4 ultra. i just dont see it making sense. it doesnt seem like there is a big enough market their. i could be very wrong though
This is the bit where I clearly haven’t communicated this well enough and it’s what I said on my livestream last night and why I want to make another video about the resin.
If you could touch this and see it in action. You would understand instantly why this is about 3x the cost of a Saturn.
But the fact that other people have shown you can just any resin in this and it dynamically compensates lift and retract speeds to ensure success every time. Rather than relying on the user to dial it in is just one example of what this does that nobody else comes close to
And if I haven’t conveyed that clear enough in the video
That’s on me
@FauxHammer I get it brother. I watched the whole thing. Just my point of view boss
@@ProjectDefi Oh and it's more than welcome, thank you!
"this is not a review"
Damn right it isn't! It's an add lol
No mate. It’s a preview.
The thoughts are my own. Believe me or don’t
I was not paid to make this video. In fact, I turned down $700 when I made this video because I don’t do sponsored reviews.
love it but to bad that at this point its just a other secret little wet dream, i can not afford or justify to buy jet an other printer. my wife would murder me if i buy more printers hahahah thanks for the video tho great as always i enjoyed watching it
A lot of people seem to be either totally missing, or deliberaterly ignoring, your pointers to Rising Ape and Greedy3D and their take on using 3rd party resins in this machine. It renders the whole "proprietary resin" argument moot.
Almost renders it moot, but this is why I have seperated that out into my next video.
24:00 when you put it like that how can anyone disagree 🤔
The commentary at 24:00. 🤣 PERFECT!
@Fauxhammer I do not hate any Hey Gears printers, I dislike the ability to choose my own way when it comes to resin. That said, I truly understand why it is a closed ecosystem, for the exact reasons you voiced. I am at the bottom end of commercial printing. My goal is to consistently have a $500 profit each month. I am a pensioner whose necessities are covered each month, a bit more is needed to have fun. If money were no object I would bee all-in. You wished for a comment, and now you have yet another.
keep up the good work Ross
I don't know about this, I just bought the GK3 at the early bird special, i don't know about spending another 900 ( I NEED A HEATED SYSTEM ) I'm having a hard time about the resin, being so damn expensive, and the only way for good prints is to use their software and resin
But it's also their software and resin that "ensures" good prints. It's a hard one mate, Between these two. what do you want more. certainty of a high quality print, or big prints.
To answer your question, I do big prints, but I understand what you're saying. Am I going to spend another 1000 plus their own resin. It's a hard pass, but I do understand what you are saying. Love your videos, sir.
@@dwilliams660 Thanks, also, you may not know but you can use third party resin. Both Greedy3D and Rising Ape proved this.
In this video... You sound like Uncle Jessy reviewing an elegoo product...
Ouch. But only because I know you meant that as an insult. But he does his thing, I do mine. I mean this is how I genuinely feel about it. But if you want to take it that way. I’m not gonna fight you.
Honestly I can not afford it yet
Elegoo's 4k DLP has been very disappointing , at 1st It was a plug & print & perfect
After taking parts off plate leveling moved { from parts sticking hard } the ball joint moved from plate to locking mechanism
After re-leveling plate { by instruction manual } , it lost all springing action so in a locked position , always print failures now
After 3 more plates { 1 bought & 2 sent free by Elegoo ) all the plates stick & no springing action , just locked in place
It is basically a paper weight on my desk
I bought it because I thought it would last , I got 3 months use ......
I have been told to ask for a refund , but with models made & sitting around for 3 months they have started to crack and split open while using Elegoo resin only with printer
I am not sure I want to 3D print anymore OR use Elegoo products
would you recommend this or the GK3 Ultra? Thanks
Do you want size or ease of use and quality?
@@FauxHammer welll....lol I love the size of the GK# ultra, does it not have the quality and ease of use as the heygears?
@@scarfa21 yeah go for the size then mate, but no it's just a normal printer with some very smart and well-designed features, it;s not as easy or as sharp as the heygears
@@FauxHammer Thank you!!
With the price of their resin they could even sell it for 200eur that I won’t even consider it
Their cheapest resin is $35 a bottle. PAS10, which is the same as PARP10, a resin so good I made a video about it. Love that stuff.
But also, you can use your own resin as Greedy3D and RisingApe have proved.
nice video, always a happy to support on patreon, never thought you sold yourself and yes the printer is nice BUT the "promise" of easy and stable prints and all auto-support is just bullshit marketing talk. open up to other slicers and resins would minimize their resin sells bc people know its not a great resin just a regular one. imo you have a choice between easy, fast stable but high resin price (for the industrie and printfarms) on the one hand and perfect minimalistic but slower supports and cheaper resin (hobby) on the other. for me i'd love to have their nice well build machine and the opportunity to use my goto resin mix and my own supports. i just guess they will not open completely to the hobby market bc a huge part of their business is a complete solution like 2D printer companies...
I promise you, their promise of easy prints is not just marketing talk. If I have not shown it well enough. You’d understand just by using this how much easier it is and how inviting it is to keep going back to print another thing
@@FauxHammer i def got you, maybe I haven't made my point well. i don't consider "easy and stable prints" marketing bullshit but that this is the actual reason for not providing the freedom to use the slicer and resin we want. like any other company they don't care about the customer and the perfect solution but their profit and it is clear to me that they see more value in gatekeeping and selling only their resin than in selling more printers. thats why i compared it to 2D printing. the real profit isn't in the printer but in the resin/ink
@@nideininger That's most likely on me not digesting your initial point well. I was falling asleep and replying to lots!
Just ordered the RS using your discount code. Thank you. Can’t wait. Coming off the Saturn 2
Integrity is never easy to maintain. Keep up the good work and keep speaking truth. Your channel is quickly becoming one of the few that is taken as an uncorrupted opinion for consumers.
Thankyou for your understanding. The bigger I get the more comments I get contrary to this and I have to be honest, with everything I do to maintain my integrity, those comments trigger me.
Yours has made my day...
I turned down $700 to make this video about the machine!
Really? because I saw some serious bias going on in this video, particularly when it comes to the lack of a resin vat heater coming standard with a $1000 printer. He called out the Saturn 4 Ultra for it which is less than half the cost but Heygears gets a free pass. Oh, also he mentioned "Honesty" as something this company is known for when they lie on their own marketing literature about the wavelength of their lighting systems(Fun Fact: the Reflex is not 385nm, closer to 405 actually than it is to 385). That aside, it looks like it is a great product and they are learning from what Bambu is doing in the FDM space. I just dont think they should be purposefully preventing you from dialing in your own resins at your own risk. If their slicer wont work, then disable the auto-support function when using third-party resins, but dont make it impossible to do so. If Heygears goes out of business, jacks their prices up, or discontinues the resin you rely on, you are screwed. I personally wont give a company leverage over me on proprietary consumables, they will eventually take advantage of you because they can.
Noob question, how does this compare to a form 4? Not considering the price, just performance.
Honestly their resin costs more than i would like. 1kg of clearish resin doesnt need to be $90 a kg
Really? $90 per kg? Holy crap.
Really? $90? Holy crap
@@mitcho590 yeah its kinda nuts, that said greedy3d has been testing to see if resins from other brands work. He was able to make a lot of 3rd party normal resin work and even got the one transparent resin he tried to work as well.
he mentioned plans of trying other clear resins as well
PAS10 is $35?
PAT10 (the transparent resin) isn't listed as compatible with the RS. You'd need the more expensive printer for that privilege.
Ross, i think you slightly buried the lede on this video. Heygears' system didn't really click for me until literally the last minute. They're industrial manufacturers? Of course! Tight integration for maximum efficiency and performance is the norm with industrial machinery. I dabble with 3D printing, but professionally I work in traditional printing (laser, wide-format signage, etc.). All of our machines use proprietary materials, whether it's liquid ink, powder toner or repair parts. But the thing is, they all just work. Load it, hit continue, and keep working, because downtime is the profit-killer, not proprietary parts. That's Heygears' business model. I completely get the antipathy toward it, but i now really understand where Heygears are coming from, too.
Yep, that’s exactly right. But I have nothing industrial to compare to. It’s a different leave to the rest. But in the consumer space it’s in its own.
But it’s in its own. And without a rival, it’s hard to showcase it against anything else.
Looks like a great machine, but waaaaay too much expensive for my blood. Love the innovations HeyGears are bringing in the resin world though.
Does this machine allow for any other slicing software to be used with it?
Also, I read somewhere online that the official slicer won't work without an active online connection - is this true?
No it only works with Blueprint and no. I don’t think you need an online connection. You can use their cloud service to store and transfer files. But that’s optional
Once in a Six Side just released a video to show that you can not use the official slicer without an active online connection. Even if you are logged in and loose the online connection.
I feel like I'm very well within in their target audience, the price is far better than I expected and I'd happily pay for something made by people who put this much care into their product, but I'm also quite opposed to some of their practices (the lack of resin choice, the always-online requirement of their slicer that sends every action to their servers, the silly attempt to lock the sliced output files.. and that's just the bits i know about!) and have disliked the responses they give about them online. :) Fortunately they don't ship to my country so I don't have to concern myself about which would win out. Looks like another great, high quality printer anyway!
So you want to pay $45-$55 a kg for resin? have at it lol
@@anthonylong5870 I have to put premium gas in my car. You don't have to be a dick.
@@anthonylong5870 to not mess with resin calibration? yeah lol
For the full review, could you possibly address the print quality when compared to DLP options like the Elegoo Mars 4 DLP. I understand they aren't on the same level when it comes to build quality and ease of use features. Thanks, your videos have been a tremendous help. I appreciate it
Mars is not a DLP printer. It’s MSLA.
The "Mars 4 DLP" is DLP mate, there were 4 different Mars 4 printers. Normal, Ultra, Max and DLP.
As for the difference. this is easily as sharp as any DLP I have seen, and has a higher resolution.
Heygears isn't for me. And it's not the cost.
the plastic and metal parts are bad, it looks like USD 500 machine
Any idea why the Reflex RS is 35% more expensive in Germany and other countries as opposed to UK and US (974Euro vs 799$)? Heygears does not answer me :(
They said in another comment it’s taxes
I could never afford this printer but I have no problem with proprietary resin. If the prints work and you get consistently successful prints then the resin has paid for itself. I would say on average 1/4 to 1/3 of my resin goes to failed prints even when fully supported so I'm completely on board with this.
Great video Ross. Always loved your channel.
The resin is $45 to $55 a kg......THATS STUPID!
$33-$90 mate
Siraya Tech Fast ABS-Like is anywhere from $28 to 36 (rounded up) for 1 kg. Using his above numbers over lost resin you are looking at .250 to .333 Kg lost which amounts to for every 3 to 4 kgs you have basically lost 1 bottle. So you get anywhere from 2 to 3 kgs of printed models with supports. At 2kg this cost you $84 for 3kg it’s $112 at $28. At $36 it’s $108 to $144. Let’s say on Heygear all prints are good at 2 kg for PRAPR10 at $45 a bottle that’s $90 for a better print for the 3 kg it’s $135 it less than 4 bottles of good prints with Siraya Tech. The quality is on the high end do to the X factor of you using a more commercial and consistent printer. So if you print a lot and are buying there resin you should come out with either a savings or break even. Note I use Sunlu resin so where I would come out reducing cost and time is over the support due the size and removing the supports. I love my GKTWO but there times when the Sunlu resin is just not up to par so I’ve got wasted resin.
@@anthonylong5870 that is cheap for what they provided happily take that over the 200+ resin on other printers of this caliber
Ok...I will comment. The build quality looks amazing, and i have no doubt that this could be the best built printer in the consumer market. For me however, I'm hooked on the science of how these machines work as much as the end result. I love acgreat print, but i also enjoy playing with exposure times, AA settings, and figuring out how supports need to vary with different resins. I want a quality machine, and after this video, as impressed as I am, im still feeling good about my GK3 pre-order. 😊
I wish this printer had other resin support, i use my phrozen for jewlery models used for the casting process. This means the resin has to be castable no shrink resin made for jewelry. This makss this amazing printer obsolete for me :(
They do have a casting material, but you can only use it on the Reflex and the price per bottle is insane in my opinion. I know casting resins are more expensive anyway, but wow!
it would be helpful if you could now summarize all the printers you tested and help newbies choosing resin/fdm printer for them.
I plan to do that toward the end of the year, they release so many so fast, I can't do this as regular as I would like. I'll have one before end of October
I would love to buy this printer, but they dont ship to Denmark. Anybody know if they wil do that in the future?
they will. they have only just opened up to a larger list of EU countries, I would email them and ask when
@@FauxHammer Thank you. I have emailed them to ask. No answer yet.
Honestly, I am upset at the lack of more upsetting things said in this video. I CAME HERE TO BE OFFENDED - NOW I AM OFFENDED FOR THE WRONG REASONS!
Sorry…
You’re a dick…
How’s that? I’m tired. This is not my best work
@@FauxHammer Bravo! ... wait
Sooooooooo..... What your saying is......... this is the Bambu of resin printing???????????? or maybe a little better??????