I work with inland turtle conservation. Turtles used to be the number one source of food from a vertebrate source within most ecosystems outside of the arctic and antarctic for oh so many millineums. Not only do they no longer perform that function because their numbers have fallen so low they are actually struggling just to sustain any populations at all. The key to their survival was having enough numbers to offset massive predation losses while maintaining a large enough pool of breeding adults to ensure finding fertile mates reliablely primarily by sight. Now that their numbers are not high enough to perform these functions for themselves and others they are not going to majically rebuild their population even if somehow the ecosystem around them became perfect again. So perhaps 4 million murres sounds like alot but in the murre world this population level may just be barely sustainable and not able to recover beyond just surviving. And with so many fewer turtles and murres left in the ecocsystems whats happening to all the creatures that depended on them for sustenance?!
Anyone think that this could have been a natural occurrence and nothing we did caused it, how many times has this happened in the past when we were not even around
I was up in AK when it happened,from Kodiak to Prince William Sound,as a fisherman and birder. It was awful. The Murres,amazing underwater swimmers,couldn’t reach their food source due to ‘The Blob’ of warm water and with their high metabolism were particularly affected,starved. There were other species affected too but not like the Murres.
@@Anthony-hu3rj no way! Humans have infested the planet and have caused irreversible damage. We’re totally releasing CO2 and methane, but also, we’re on schedule for the rhythmic warming and cooling that we’ve done for the past 10k years since the younger dryas.
over fishing? nuke subs passin thru one time to many and cleaning their reactors, a extra large and long plume of micro plastics? plume of radiation from fukushimas waste dumping?
Fukushima has nothing to do with it. Why didn't you mention all the other nuke plants which release contaminated water every day? Fukushima is just one of many
@@philbuell6657you must be very smart. To believe no ill effect comes from pumping billions upon billions of metric tons of toxic pollution annually into the fragile life sustaining ecosystems of the planet.
Common scientific sense tells you, that if what you think caused a die off is mitigated, in other words the temps stablized where the food source returned but the poulation that depends on that source does not recover, then your diagnosis or belief as to the cause was wrong. You puckedvwhat appeared to be an obvious cause without looking further. Now, after enough time has passed that its evident that you picked the wrong coincidence, you have a mystery if your own doing, as you accepted something and looked no further and your prime evidence is long gone. How well studied were these birds before the die out. Why did some not starve or was it not starvation because of lack of one food source? Birds have been around since dinosaurs inhabited earth and have been through many huge disaster and loss of food sources and they adapted finding other foods. Anyone considered that while while their fiod source has returned they had already started adapting to eat other foods, saving them from a complete die off. That could ean that the ppulation will recover once they adapt to other foods. Has the slower recovery also been an adaption to protect the species by dropping the fertility rate until they are sure new foods they are adapting to are plentiful enough to start an increase in population. Or didbit really have anyrhingbtovdo with the loss of a food source as it could be be that losing a preferred good source, was not the issue at all, just coincidence, and while they had secondary sources of good that could have prevented starvation, starvation was not caused by lack of food but by bacteria or a virus which appear to cause starvation. Why only half the population? This could have been an ancient virus that at one time the species dealt with and immuniyies developed that got encoded in DNA. The virus may have waned as it had less and less hosts but instead of fully fying out was oreseved in ice. Without the virus around any longer to kill off any without natural immunity eventually would end up with 50% of s population without immunity. If the virus emerged from a frizen suspended state it could easily have rampaged through the ones without a natural immunity. But without goid samples of birds from before and after the die out, and comparative study of the DNA from both the diseased and survivors and probably no complete cadavers frozen from the die out that can be put through much deeper study to determine whether the dead bird died becausenitbhad no food or because it could not eat or digest or absorb or convert what was absorbed into energy. There are so many things beyond just no primary food source that can cause starvation. Sometimes when it looks like the evidence is right in front of us we tend to accept that the hoof beats we are hearing, so to speak,are horses not zebra and then have s mystery when we find out that on the island we are on their are neither zebra OR horses, and because we assumed we knew what had to be tje explanation we never went to the window to look at what was making the hoof beat sound. And we crested our own biggest mystery. Then becomes the harded job, looking for what could sound like horse, but was not a horse or donkey, as none ever set abhoof on the island. How many years get wasted and how much time and investigation takes place before you discover a herd of unicorns was what you heard and so much me and money could have been saved if you had gonesnd looked instead of creating a mystery.
hunters can posses 40 and harvest 20 birds a day seems like they were looked at a problem by the governing bodies, same thing happens to birds in colorado except there not starved before
They patently refuse to talk about the long-term effects of the Fukushima disaster. This isn't the first report of that kind from that general area. I'm sometimes surprised that humanity has survived this long.
@@frankmacleod2565 Neither of us can state definitively the cause; it may very well be just natural cycles playing out like with other species. However, it would be nonsensical to think dumping vast quantities of radioactive waste water into the ocean doesn't have consequences. And if you check out a map of the ocean currents you'll see why I made my initial statement about the area in question.
@@mikerevendale4810 Why would you focus on Fukushima? Are you not aware that all nuke plants situated oceanside release contaminated water? Your obsession with Fukushima shows how little you know about this subject
@@mikerevendale4810 "Ocean currents carry contaminants from Fukushima across the Pacific Ocean in about 3-4 years. WHOI researchers detected the first signs of radioactive cesium near Uclulet, British Columbia, in February 2015 and found the highest levels about 1,500 miles north of Hawaii in the summer of 2015. However, both are much lower than levels near Japan and only slightly elevated over what was already in the Pacific prior to Fukushima (2 Bq/m3)."
And when Caligula is back in the WH, you can forget any kind of protection for those birds or anything else on this Earth, because you will get from trump the same consideration that every animal gets in a slAughTerhouSe.
@ it’s around 200-300 maybe 400 years for the warming and cooling phases. Please google- (earth’s temperature over the past 10,000 years) look at all of the many graphs and graphics and you’ll see for yourself, a rhythmic pattern, I’m just saying…
4 million is a lot of birds ... both still living and those that died ... that's nature for you, why condors are so big ... you should have seen the dead salmon every year before Europeans started mechanical harvesting ... sheesh ... 4 million dead birds every few decades is nothing compared to ... every ... single ... river-run salmon dying *_every_* year ... 100 million? ... why condors grow so big ...
Thank you for covering this important and critical issue.
The whole world is diminished when a species is lost. The interplay of species amplifies the loss and saddens all who appreciate the divesity of life.
I work with inland turtle conservation. Turtles used to be the number one source of food from a vertebrate source within most ecosystems outside of the arctic and antarctic for oh so many millineums. Not only do they no longer perform that function because their numbers have fallen so low they are actually struggling just to sustain any populations at all. The key to their survival was having enough numbers to offset massive predation losses while maintaining a large enough pool of breeding adults to ensure finding fertile mates reliablely primarily by sight. Now that their numbers are not high enough to perform these functions for themselves and others they are not going to majically rebuild their population even if somehow the ecosystem around them became perfect again. So perhaps 4 million murres sounds like alot but in the murre world this population level may just be barely sustainable and not able to recover beyond just surviving. And with so many fewer turtles and murres left in the ecocsystems whats happening to all the creatures that depended on them for sustenance?!
Thank you for sharing this.
Anyone think that this could have been a natural occurrence and nothing we did caused it, how many times has this happened in the past when we were not even around
Facts
Magnetic pole shift
Our species is basically planet cancer
We're burning a hundred million barrels of oil a day.
@@KatiTheButcherthe poles are not shifting.
I thought there was another major die off last year too. Unfortunately, it looks like they're facing extinction.
@@galacticmoth probably should get out more and stop watching the news.
Bird flu??? Ocean temps??? Over fishing???? Or all of the above????
Fukashima? PFAS? weather/environmental "man"ipulation?
They know exactly, what's going on, their just not going
to admit it! Those precious Birds!😭💔
Yes, it's everything you enjoy every day. Your coffee, your car, everything in your house made of plastic. Your Internet, ect.
@@TC-cr2oy Agreed! But on a major vast scale it's the chemtrails n HARP n CERN, fracking, that's throwing Mother Nature out of whack to!
Oh please. Get a job
@@arlenethomas1167chemtrails are an urban myth. Read a book
Survival of the fittest
So many species losing huge numbers or all, yet most humans ignore that we are on the list.
Humans are not going extinct. Our population is growing rapidly
I was up in AK when it happened,from Kodiak to Prince William Sound,as a fisherman and birder. It was awful. The Murres,amazing underwater swimmers,couldn’t reach their food source due to ‘The Blob’ of warm water and with their high metabolism were particularly affected,starved. There were other species affected too but not like the Murres.
Ebbs and flows are part of the ecosystem in creation. Nothing in nature is static.
Look at the last 10,000 years, if we weren’t warming now it would be alarming
By your logical the Anthropocene is a lie?
@@Anthony-hu3rj no way! Humans have infested the planet and have caused irreversible damage. We’re totally releasing CO2 and methane, but also, we’re on schedule for the rhythmic warming and cooling that we’ve done for the past 10k years since the younger dryas.
@@Anthony-hu3rj we’re not going to stop global warming
Nothing is natural about human impact on the life systems of this planet.
over fishing? nuke subs passin thru one time to many and cleaning their reactors, a extra large and long plume of micro plastics? plume of radiation from fukushimas waste dumping?
PFAS
Fukushima has nothing to do with it. Why didn't you mention all the other nuke plants which release contaminated water every day? Fukushima is just one of many
How has the ice caps increased by 24% since 2012
Thank you! Someone that actually has been paying attention, looking beyond their parroted narrative.
Cite your source. The majority of science says the opposite.
@@SheplerStudiosscientists or paid shills?
@@philbuell6657you must be very smart. To believe no ill effect comes from pumping billions upon billions of metric tons of toxic pollution annually into the fragile life sustaining ecosystems of the planet.
The ice caps are getting smaller, not larger
I love her last sentence. It implies that the economy is the most important thing. 😅
If we keep prioritizing the economy over the environment, what could possibly go wrong??
Just awful. Thank you for covering
Well without knowing for sure they haven't recovered because scientists keep would be my first guess
Common scientific sense tells you, that if what you think caused a die off is mitigated, in other words the temps stablized where the food source returned but the poulation that depends on that source does not recover, then your diagnosis or belief as to the cause was wrong. You puckedvwhat appeared to be an obvious cause without looking further. Now, after enough time has passed that its evident that you picked the wrong coincidence, you have a mystery if your own doing, as you accepted something and looked no further and your prime evidence is long gone.
How well studied were these birds before the die out. Why did some not starve or was it not starvation because of lack of one food source? Birds have been around since dinosaurs inhabited earth and have been through many huge disaster and loss of food sources and they adapted finding other foods. Anyone considered that while while their fiod source has returned they had already started adapting to eat other foods, saving them from a complete die off. That could ean that the ppulation will recover once they adapt to other foods.
Has the slower recovery also been an adaption to protect the species by dropping the fertility rate until they are sure new foods they are adapting to are plentiful enough to start an increase in population. Or didbit really have anyrhingbtovdo with the loss of a food source as it could be be that losing a preferred good source, was not the issue at all, just coincidence, and while they had secondary sources of good that could have prevented starvation, starvation was not caused by lack of food but by bacteria or a virus which appear to cause starvation. Why only half the population? This could have been an ancient virus that at one time the species dealt with and immuniyies developed that got encoded in DNA. The virus may have waned as it had less and less hosts but instead of fully fying out was oreseved in ice. Without the virus around any longer to kill off any without natural immunity eventually would end up with 50% of s population without immunity. If the virus emerged from a frizen suspended state it could easily have rampaged through the ones without a natural immunity. But without goid samples of birds from before and after the die out, and comparative study of the DNA from both the diseased and survivors and probably no complete cadavers frozen from the die out that can be put through much deeper study to determine whether the dead bird died becausenitbhad no food or because it could not eat or digest or absorb or convert what was absorbed into energy.
There are so many things beyond just no primary food source that can cause starvation.
Sometimes when it looks like the evidence is right in front of us we tend to accept that the hoof beats we are hearing, so to speak,are horses not zebra and then have s mystery when we find out that on the island we are on their are neither zebra OR horses, and because we assumed we knew what had to be tje explanation we never went to the window to look at what was making the hoof beat sound. And we crested our own biggest mystery. Then becomes the harded job, looking for what could sound like horse, but was not a horse or donkey, as none ever set abhoof on the island. How many years get wasted and how much time and investigation takes place before you discover a herd of unicorns was what you heard and so much me and money could have been saved if you had gonesnd looked instead of creating a mystery.
According to the cooling and warming trends of the last 10,000 years, we should be warming now.
@@PRND21 big oil funded those studies I’ll bet.
@@Dusty-y6b you would lose your bet. You should look for yourself. Universities, NASA, NOAA, etc have all studied and funded data collection
@@PRND21 but the planet has been cooling for at least the last decade.
Careful….we could be on the list next
hunters can posses 40 and harvest 20 birds a day seems like they were looked at a problem by the governing bodies, same thing happens to birds in colorado except there not starved before
They patently refuse to talk about the long-term effects of the Fukushima disaster. This isn't the first report of that kind from that general area. I'm sometimes surprised that humanity has survived this long.
Radiation has nothing to do with this
Watch the video
@@frankmacleod2565 Neither of us can state definitively the cause; it may very well be just natural cycles playing out like with other species. However, it would be nonsensical to think dumping vast quantities of radioactive waste water into the ocean doesn't have consequences. And if you check out a map of the ocean currents you'll see why I made my initial statement about the area in question.
@@mikerevendale4810 Why would you focus on Fukushima? Are you not aware that all nuke plants situated oceanside release contaminated water? Your obsession with Fukushima shows how little you know about this subject
@@mikerevendale4810 "Ocean currents carry contaminants from Fukushima across the Pacific Ocean in about 3-4 years. WHOI researchers detected the first signs of radioactive cesium near Uclulet, British Columbia, in February 2015 and found the highest levels about 1,500 miles north of Hawaii in the summer of 2015. However, both are much lower than levels near Japan and only slightly elevated over what was already in the Pacific prior to Fukushima (2 Bq/m3)."
When the bees 🐝 go... we all go.
❤️🙏
And when Caligula is back in the WH, you can forget any kind of protection for those birds or anything else on this Earth, because you will get from trump the same consideration that every animal gets in a slAughTerhouSe.
@@Dusty-y6b get yourself some professional help for that TDS there Dusty!
Same thing is happening with what was common sense .
This happens in nature. There are no taxes or mandates that can stop it.
Burning a hundred million barrels of oil a day probably isn't helping
That's like saying it's impossible to murder someone, because people die naturally
@@frankmacleod2565 Maybe they flew into the giant wind turbines on top the mountain behind my house. You know like all the hawks and owls before them.
@@drivenmad7676 what wind turbines? You live in Alaska? I didn't realize they had big windfarms there, I certainly never saw any when I was there.
@@frankmacleod2565 I'm in the NE and yes they exist
Id be looking into chinas 10000 vessel fishing fleet thats been found illegally fishing all over the world
Yeah, because fishing causes heatwaves. Get a clue.
Nature is just levelling out.
Or,..I learned,.40 years ago,"when in doubt phase out",.. Republican party motto,I figured out,then.
Google- Earth’s temperature trends for the last 10,000 years. The oddity would be if we were not in a warming trend.
🤦 yeah over tens of thousands of years not decades
@ it’s around 200-300 maybe 400 years for the warming and cooling phases. Please google- (earth’s temperature over the past 10,000 years) look at all of the many graphs and graphics and you’ll see for yourself, a rhythmic pattern, I’m just saying…
@@PRND21and using the earths atmosphere as a car toilet has NO impact on ANYTHING, huh?
@@Dusty-y6b your extremist assumption is incorrect.
The warming trend doesn't stay at the same rate over time, genius
4 million is a lot of birds ... both still living and those that died ... that's nature for you, why condors are so big ... you should have seen the dead salmon every year before Europeans started mechanical harvesting ... sheesh ... 4 million dead birds every few decades is nothing compared to ... every ... single ... river-run salmon dying *_every_* year ... 100 million? ... why condors grow so big ...
Climate change! The sky is falling 😂😂😂
It's all TRUMPS fault
7 degree water temp increase did not kill all these birds. You people are delusional.
It's not funny.
@@JohnnyAngel8stupid people need a platform too I guess 🤷♀️
@@JohnnyAngel8 what do you expect from someone who binge posts emojis?
Dont worry, mankind will follow soon