Hey Tamar, I originally started with a separate 6" jointer and 12" lunchbox planer. I switched to a 12" jointer/planer but found it a little difficult to get used to constantly switching back and forth. A lot of the jointer/planers on the market have aluminum fences and from what i've seen and my experience, they're fairly flimsy, and even if you get it set to 90 degrees, slight pressure on the fence while using can deflect it out of square. Furthermore, a lot of the jointer/planers have a very long fence post out the back of the machine that prevents you from putting it against a wall. Just some food for thought. I know that there are a lot of fans of them out there too, but coming from having separate machines, I found the transition difficult.
Totally agree with you. I have a cheap combo (350€ here in France) and it is not very well manufactured. It does the job but with some pain on setting it up correctly. IMHO, if you go for a combo you need a semi pro/pro one with an iron casted top. Definitely not cheaper than the two separated tools and it take some space also. Not good, not bad solution but I don't think it worth the investment when you already have both.
Scott, I had the 6” jointer and 13” planer, upgraded to the 16” jointer/planer combo Hammer from Felder. Yes it took a bit to get used to switching it it from jointer to planer but now that I am totally worth it. Much bigger jointer planer and smaller footprint. Don’t give up on the move to one machine
@@chippychippy8291 There's models where you don't have to switch between different modes to do either planing or jointing. Wood-mizer have a couple of models.
I got the Rikon 25-010 10” jointer/planer and would NOT recommend. Jointer tables are aluminum, are not long enough and deflect too easily. Even worse, the planer doesn’t plane parallel so I always end up with a trapezoid like one side is lower than the other. I’ve tried to adjust it, even contacted Rikon and nothing had worked. Honestly I wouldn’t even sell it, as I can’t in good conscience take money for it from another person. Lesson learned.
Love the real time panic on the slabs. I totally get that when your focus is suddenly shot and you HAVE to know what happened. Anyway, good luck with the new shop can wait to see the final set up.
This video is surprisingly refreshing. You pro youtubers make it look so easy and clean so it's nice to see that you're still a human being! A hard look at the process, even if messy, can sometimes be more helpful than a really slick build video. Thanks!
Have you considered piping your dust collection through to the garage, reduces the noise in your workshop and any dust gathered on bag etc. Looking forward to seeing you set up the space.
If the DC is put is in the garage it'll suck all of the conditioned shop air into the garage in minutes. There would have to be an enclosure around the DC with the air vented back into the shop.
@@kwilliams2239 my grandpa had an air conditioned shop with DC in the garage. Worked like a charm. Kept noise down and saved space. Small shop and the DC didn’t come close to pulling all the conditioned air into the garage.
@@jrhenry24 Think about it. 1200CFM moving from the air conditioned shop to the DC in an unconditioned shop with air exfiltration to the outside. Where is that air going to go? At 1200CFM, assuming a 2-car garage-sized shop (24x24, say) with eight foot ceilings is ~4,600 cu. ft., that's just short of four minutes to pump all the air out of the shop into the garage. Scale for your shop size and DC. The numbers don't lie. Worse, that air will be replaced by warm, humid, air from the outside. The cast iron tools will be cool because of the AC and you're now introducing humid air. What can go wrong? The only answer is to return that air to the shop. It's easier to build a closet in the shop with baffling and a large vent returning the air to the shop. You could build the closet on the garage side but watch fire codes.
Looking forward to seeing videos made in the new shop. I'm going to miss the old table saw. I recently put up a small rumber lack using french cleats. Still waiting for it to fail.
Nice workshop :) Regarding Jointer/planner, if you get a good one (like a Jet JPT 12", Rikon 25-210H: 12″ Helical Planer/ Jointer or bigger), you'll have no problems switching. You can easily use casters to move it around if needed (like in the "new brit workshop"). Quite useful for super long boards, or just because you just want to rearrange everything. And it would free the middle of your shop, as it would go perfectly well along the long wall. I personnaly have 0 problem with the jointer fence, while switching mode or moving it around. Jay Bates has a hammer A-31, great machine but just a bit less convenient for switching from jointer to planner.
Idea...for the mitre station. Why not make a flip top rolling cart with fold out wings that has your planer on one side and your mitre saw on the other side? Then you can use the wings for both tools...inlet and outlet will be there then as well. Just a thought....
I have a Hammer A3-31 Jointer/Planer combo machine and I highly recommend taking a look at one. It has a 12" capacity and with the optional mobility kit it's super easy to move around. I keep it tucked up against the wall and roll it out when needed. I opted for the segmented cutterblock which makes the machine super quiet to operate and leaves a fantastic finish on all types of wood. As far a cost it was less than buying an 8" jointer and 13" planer separately and it takes up way less space than 2 machines would. Also I would recommend trying Starrett M-1 protective lubricant to help with rust issues. Thanks for taking us along on your new shop adventure!
Welcome back, Tamar! And MANY CONGRATULATIONS on your move, new shop, and NEW TABLE SAW! I am so happy for you - thank you for being such an inspiration to us all - your enthusiasm and skills are so appreciated. I look forward to watching your new builds... Love the outtakes at the end of your videos, too!
Hi Tamar, Congratulations on with your new workshop. Indeed, one can make so many plans, there will always be other factors to pop up. Enjoy it to the fullest. Willy from Belgium. 🤩👍🐣
Having separate spaces for machinery and assembly is what I love most about my shop. Hope you enjoy your new space and good luck with your channel, I always love your videos.
Well done! Well... not done yet, but getting there. I bought a Contractor Saw in 2018, with the cast iron wings. And I rewired for 240 volts, which was a chore, since clearances are tight.
Looks like a great space Tamar and so happy for you to now have a shop where you won’t freeze in winter. Congratulations and looking forward to some awesome projects.
What an absolute joy you are! Thank you for so openly sharing your thought processes, which give me direction on organizing. My wife and I love working with you! Thank you for all the work involved in sharing, especially in the midst of being the Mom, wife and moving! I do not know how you do so much for us too!
Congratulations on the new shop, I'm very happy for you! The future is going to be sawdust awesome. For rust protection I've used Boeshield t-9 (developed by Boeing for Aerospace) it's really good.
I live on the north shore of Lake Michigan, and I have lots of humidity in the summertime. When I got my new table saw, it only took 1 day for rust to show. I have solved this by covering it every night when I leave my shop. All I do is cover the top with an old beach towel and then place a 3/4" plywood sheet on top of it. I have it there all winter too, my shop is only heated when I am working with a ceiling heater, and it has never shown any rust since this practice started. This is easy and costs little. I do this with all tops that have cast iron tops: jointer, drill press, etc. It works for all.
So nice to see you Tamar, I love the new shop, I’m sure you’ll maximize all that space to perfection like you do with all of your projects, assembling table would be a good start before constructing the kids beds, however you will figure this out for sure !!!
I have a Hammer A3 41 jointer/planner with their silent power cutter head. Great machine, saves a lot of space over separate machines. It quick to switch from jointer to planner mode, takes me about a minute.
Love your new shop! I have the same HF dust collection and try to keep the biggest dust producers closest to the unit and least producers farther away. Additionally, adding portable shop vacs on sanding tools keeps dust hoses shorter. Looks like you have a good layout but keep your options open as the layout plan will change as you begin to use your tools. This new addition will make creating so much more convenient for you.
It has only been 3 weeks? It seems like forever!!! So glad to see you got everything set up. And honestly... the lighting does not look bad at all. It comes across on video pretty good. Congratulations on getting all organized... now... build us something cool!
@@3x3CustomTamar it's probably the frequency of the lights or tone I think they call it. Your eyes will perceive it differently but it's more of a visual effect than reality. You can kind of notice it at the display areas at the hardware store but it is really noticeable from a dark room and swapping the light sources.
Good to see you are no longer in the freezing garage. You will change your setup a few times in the future. I did. I would suggest an Oneida dust deputy. It works well with my HF dust collector. Only mess with the plastic bag once a year or less.
I am just starting to fit out my first work shop so this is really interesting to get ideas about what I should be buying and how I should be laying things out. My space isn't as large as yours but is almost exactly square being just over 16 feet each way and that is allowing me to have everything perfectly aligned. Does anyone else have a mental itch about creating straight lines and avoiding things not being square - or is it just me? 🤷♂
I like the idea of the assembly table. A neat project I saw a while ago on DIY was a large torsion box assembly table. The maker designed it to be the flattest and true surface in his shop. He had a pretty big shop and made it at least 4’x8’, but he built large pieces of furniture.
As woodworkers, we are uniquely qualified by adapting to the chaos of our natural medium (wood) and our former mistakes. Evolution fills the gaps of the vessel or environment. Workflow evolves too. Pilgrim Tamar will do well.
Very nice shop upgrade. Look forward to your future videos. I would recommend getting the SawStop MB-IND-000 Industrial Mobile Base and the out-feed attachment.
Congrats and nice shop space. You have a well thought out plan for efficiency and keeping as many things mobile is helpful. I’d consider putting the miter saw and planer on the same wall. Deep breath on so many projects, but I’m looking forward to seeing them and well deserved getting the saw stop! 👍
Tamar, what I did with my dust collection, (because I am in a small stand-alone building) was to build an outdoor "closet" for it and the compressor. I found a through-the-wall port from Rockler, but they also make them of steel for woodstove pipes too. So the closet is attached to the outside wall, insulated with foam board and soundproofing. The pipe from the DC goes through the wall at the ceiling and goes around the shop with drops to each power tool. I do have the Rockler blue hose with an attached handle for easy disconnect that runs from a drop to my center island with a built-in table saw. I leave the hose on a hook when not in use and when I want to vacuum up a pile of dust & chips, I attach the hose to the floor attachment or put it onto the table saw. The nice thing about keeping the pipes up high is that it does not interfere with wall cabinets and the wood storage rack. Something to think about if you have an outside wall.
Congratulations on your move. The new ship is looking good and, I'm sure, will get organised really soon. I do have a criticism, one of my pet hates. Please don't allow your tape measure to retract at speed. If you do this you will eventually wear the slots that allow you to do internal and external measurements in the end tab. Your tape measure will then start to measure short.
I've got a Hammer A3-31 (12 Inch Planer - Thcknesser Combo) with the Spiral cutter Head, and i absolutly love this beast! so quiet, powerful and the results are Beautiful, most times without sanding! most times, i only do a light brush with a bronze brush to clean up the last fibers, and bring the wood to a light, natural structur.
For dust collection, consider the Harvey G700 - While it is big, expensive and horizontal vs vertical, it is so much quieter than the cyclone DC systems and it is powerful. Plus, you can put a bench on top of the unit.
Congratulations on the new house and shop Tamar! After building one of the best woodworking channels using a job site saw, nobody deserves a Sawstop more than you do. Look forward to seeing the projects you will make with it.
I would build a bench above the jointer for the miter saw. Use a long bench type stool to access the higher saw, where you only need to stand right in front of the saw.
Loved the bloopers, and the very real moment of "oh no, where are the slabs?" I think you are correct though, at that price point, the latest saw stop at nearly 1k - competitors need to step it up. Sure, you can find them cheaper, and if you are careful you might not have any injury (if you are lucky) but that'll just about pay for itself the first time it stops you from doing something stupid. Loved the angles you used, multi camera setup could be extremely helpful. Admittedly might even save you time on editing as you don't need to transition unless you want to. Great video Tamar!
> competitors need to step it up They did. Bosch made the Reaxx. SawStop sued them to force it off the market. Most of the SawStop patents start expiring this year and next, though, so hopefully we'll see more affordable, safer saws pretty soon.
@@sumnerhayes3411 Copying the idea of a patent was a bad business plan. Competitors can and should be looking for 'new' innovation not how can we re-engineer a competitors product to do the same thing. But, I concede that you absolute are correct that Bosch tried to do the same thing. Patents are a pain, especially for inventors, but without them, any big business will just snatch the idea of a small start-up and duplicate.
@@Makkenhoff Bosch came up with a completely different and innovative solution than SawStop. Their airbag approach doesn't damage the blades and they don't use a mechanical arrest as SawStop does. The case was badly decided, as patent cases often are.
@@sumnerhayes3411 Plus, there's already way superior technology out on the market compared to saw stop, which in comparison is really outdated.. And frankly not that great. Just look at Felder PCS. But as with all things, it costs money, more than a saw stop...
I'm so happy for you. I love how well you explaine everything on your videos. I am a cabinet maker and painter and know all to well about outgrowing your space. Keep up the great work young lady.
Love the new shop i have a jointer/planner and it's a bit of a pain changing back and forth but if there is limited space in my shop so i just have to suck it up and deal with it. It's better then having no machine nothing at all.🔨🔨🔨🔨😀😀😀😀
Welcome to the SawStop family. I love mine, in spite of the affinity for rust! Once you get the pastewax on, that should buy you at least 6months or so of not having to worry about it. I wished I'd listened to your guidance, though, before I did the first cleaning; I used circular motions that definitely marked the surface up. Ah well.
As someone who’s dust collection is a cyclone on a shopvac, I use my garage door to my advantage. My jointer and planer store next to the door. I roll them to just inside the door and I open it up and shoot all the debris out the door. The leaf blower is a speedy way to clean out the shop and driveway and the chips end up in the yard. Full disclosure, my shop garage door accesses the back yard so the noise doesn’t upset the neighbors. Yes, it is chilly in the winter and hot in the summer but if you plan and stage everything first the door is not open that long.
I struggled with space and after a few years decided on a combo jointer planner from Felder with a helical head. Change over is pretty quick and the machine is amazing. I am milling hickory right now and it doing a great job. I have their 12 inch model which is sufficient but I know others who love the 16 inch. Congrats on you new space. It looks great and you will love the mini split. I added one 8 years ago. I love it. Good luck unpacking
Say , last year I purchased a super cell from Oneida dust collection. I set the unit OUTSIDE the shop area. Like in your garage. No noise in the shop or valuable real estate being used. I worked with a man named Guy. Helped me lay in all out. They are in sycrause ny I think. I love it. I don’t think I could have a better set up. Good luck..and keep those hands moving 😋
Just found the video. Great upgrade with the Sawstop. Just went through a do or don't I question myself regarding Sawstop and decided just not the right time yet. Going up to a 10 inch, but a cheaper contractor Rigid 4560. But congratulations on your move and your new work space.
I know RUclipsrs Jay Bates, Rag n’ Bone Brown, and Scott Walsh all have combination jointer/planer machines. You may want to see if they’re willing to share their thoughts about them. Congrats on getting into the new shop (and house). Looking forward to seeing it all come together over time!
I have a 10' x 14 workshop. Everything is modular and multipurpose. I was able to build an entire kitchen for my son as well as use the room for my fine art studio or wood carving projects. It also serves as general workshop for repairs of all kinds. Organization and creative design is a must and you seem to be on your way.
Hi 3x3, I put my portable planer under my table saw which has wheels. The stock travels in the same direction for both machines, so it's usually pointed in the right direction.
The shop is looking great Tamar!! You are so entertaining to watch! Not only are you an amazing craftsman…your very humble and your able to laugh at yourself which makes you very relatable!!!
Awesome excitement on your new space! Really cool to see how stoked you are about it. As for the jointer under the horizontal lumber storage, it will work well-exactly what I did in my 20’x20’ shop. Today I took delivery of a Laguna Sheartec JX8 jointer and when placed under the wood storage, it’s like I lost zero space but now have an 8” jointer. I did a RUclips shop video prior to the jointer install so if interested in the link, let me know.
Just got to this video. Nice shop! I have a 12" Joiner planer w/carbide insert helical head. I absolutely love it! Its 5 hp so chews through anything. I still keep my Dewalt around but don't seem to use it near as much.
Boeshield is the bomb for protection. My son lives in TX where the humidity is over the top. His saw stop table saw started the rusting process before he could actually move in completely. He cleaned the top and swears by the stuff. No rust ever again. No damage to the wood products either. Just a thought. Have fun with your moving in. Love your vids!
Nice to see you back Tamar! Another data point from me on the jointer/planer combo topic. I have 12” Jet with a helical head and it’s sensational. I have to say though I’ve kept my dedicated DeWalt thicknesser as I just find it easier. I often find myself having to joint and plane just one more board after I’ve done the rest and having two separate machines saves a lot of back and forward flipping between settings on the jointer. The convenience of the separate thicknesser being ‘just there’ wins it for me. Good luck with your decision making and looking forward to seeing you flip from ‘router-jig Queen of Chicago’ to ‘table-saw-jig Queen of Chicago’. I’m sure you’ll be back to normal soon enough. PS your trim router jig arrived a couple of weeks ago and I love it! Highly recommend it to anyone reading!
Awesome! So glad you like it! And yeah. That’s my thinking. Sometimes I like to keep the machine set to thickness bc I might need another board or something. We shall see ha
I went with the 12 inch j/p combo. I got the Felder/Hammer 12 inch one. Definitely worth it. I just didn’t have space for both the jointer and the planer separately, and I don’t find that having to do the conversion is ever an issue. It’s really easy to just plan your workflow so you do the jointing first, and then the planing, when milling wood for a project. Shop looks great - I wish I had that much room!
Soffit duct location is great. WD40 is great for abrasive pads. After top dries I would paste wax it. Stay away from "combo" tools, too many compromises. My old shop used a 55gal drum with a cone dust separator which I built. Two drums in series would reduce almost all dust. You are a thinker. Keep up great ideas!
Fix the gap on the garage with White PVC/Foam Garage Weatherstrip at Lowe's - this is where I got mine and fixed that garage gap to keep the garage from letting the HOT air get in.
Congratulations on the new space, and best of luck on the layout. I’m in a tiny 144 square foot space which I’m constantly trying to arrange better and keep clean and uncluttered. Can’t wait to see how yours comes together.
Happy to see your back on screen! Congratulations on move, saw, and your progress. We moved , 10 months ago, down sized. Did all the “ honey doos“ , as promised, before going back to my projects. A year from sell, buy, “ honey doos” , reorganizing tools in an extended third car garage. Glad yours seems to be a quicker transition . Awaiting more of your projects.
You are having fun planning that shop, and imagining what working in it is going to be like. Half your luck!! You might want to make an early project to be a trolley/mobile table at the same height as your table saw and workbench so as you work on a project, you can put the timber through the jointer or whatever, then on top of the mobile table, then just push the mobile table to the next tool/station. That keeps all your parts together, and saves a lot of wandering back and forth from place to place in your shop.
Congratulations on the move! I have the HF 2HP Dust collector with the Oneida cyclone and a barrel from Uline. I used DIYTyler’s design and it’s awesome! I was able to place that and my compressor in an adjacent shed with piping through the walls. Very quiet. And I installed led light bulbs for each to know when they are powered on through a wireless remote.
Congratulations on new shop. I recently purchased a Hammer combo unit that contains sliding table saw, shaper, jointer and planer. I bought this to conserve on space and to simplify wiring and dust collection. The combo jointer planer works great (I have 16 inch capacity). Modern combo tools work great, are really precise and are cost competitive compared to buying individual tools. Factoring in cost savings for electrical and dust duct simplification it’s been well worth it. If you run a two or more person shop it’s not ideal to put all of those tools in one package as you can only run one one at a time. However, for a single person shop it’s ideal. Changing from one tool to another is fast and easy to do. Sorry for long comment, but got for the combo units (from good manga).
I am redesigning my shop with the addition of the planer and jointer. The planer, hooked to a dust system, will fill your bags very fast. I added a Seperator after the planer and it is capturing 75% of the shavings really saving the main system. I got the barrel and kit from Rockler and it works super. Look forward to your new videos. I too just upgraded to the SawStop from the same Dewalt Contractors saw you had. I use mineral oil on the top, my shop is super humid and it works great. I use mineral oil on all metal surfaces on the various tables. I added a large Rockler silicone pad on top of the sawstop when using it as a bench after applying the mineral oil.
I have got a 8x10 combined planer/thicknesser, and I love it, plus I have it on wheels, with locking casters, so I can just pull it out when I need it, handy as my workshop is only 8'x12' 🤣
I put my mitre saw on the DeWalt rolling stand. Very flexible bolts for attaching the saw. My mitre saw is a DeWalt but the frame is very versital. It has collapsable and height adjustable in and outfeed arms. One of the best purchases I made for my shop. So easy to have anywhere in the shop or completely out of the way if needed.
I have a Laguna combination Table saw, jointer, planner, shaper and mortise all in one machine. Definitely saves room for a smaller shop; however you have to add additional set up time for your projects to configure equipment. Most of the time this is no problem….
I have a 12" CWS jointer planer Combo unit. Its a helical head and I absolutely love it. Transition from jointer to planer is about 30 seconds. The whole thing is insanely sturdy and at three horse it is very powerful. Before I had a small Delta jointer that I put a helical head into but it wasn't wide enough. Having a 12" jointer is amazing. I would totally get one. I ordered it Feb 2020 and git it October 2020 and it cost about 4400.00. I have a smaller garage shop and it saves a ton of space. Highly recommended.
Congratulations! After the first few projects, the optimal layout will start to come to light. I need to build myself one of those rumber lacks also. Thumbs up, and thanks for posting!
I have an Oneida Supercell with quick clamp ducting, its awesome but expensive. you can have infinite bends and the ductwork is easily reconfigured with quick clamps when shop layout changes. congrats on new shop!
I have a 16 inch combo unit with a spiral/helical cutterhead and I love it. I've had it a year and a half and it's held up great, and is still dead accurate. Barely a minute to go from jointer to planer and the other way around. Takes up very little space and handles long boards. I think the longest board I've milled on it was a piece of white oak 8 ft long by 2 inch thick by 10 inches wide and the machine handled it very well, without any visible or audible slowdown.
Nice Space. And it is nice to know I am not the only one who flips around the first letters of words while I am talking. On a recent trip I was looking for a place to park the camper while we ate lunch. And the "Purch Charkinglot" next tore restaurant was where I did it. We now cannot drive past one with out the kids reminding me about that one. Oh well.
Having a 12" wide jointer is a plus. If it were me, I would want to stand in front of the actual machine if possible to make sure I could comfortably work with the height of the jointer table. You would need a couple roller stands to stabilize in and outfeed of long boards. Nice new shop! Enjoy!
Regarding the combined jointer-thickness planer, there are machines that you can switch between functions without even stopping. The Wood-Mizer MP160 is one example that I can find in a hurry but I am sure there are more of them out there.
Hi Tamar! I’d like to make a quick plug for the jointer/planer combo machine. I’m currently using the JET JJP-12HH, and I absolutely love it! For tricky to manage spaces, the savings are well worth the changeover process. It takes less than one minute to convert from jointer to planer mode, and most often you will be doing all of your jointing first and then your planing after your stock has all been jointed. The single change over for the process is not bad at all. As with any jointer or planer setup - including if you decide to do separates, I cannot recommend the helical head cutters enough. No fussing with blade sharpening, much cleaner cuts, everything is a time saver with added quality. Cleanup of the machines is dead simple, which is a nice added bonus, and maintenance is minimal. Also, I never would have purchased a 12” jointer had I gone with a separate machine, but I am so incredibly grateful that I have it. I joint oversized stock *all* the time now. Why? Because I can! Negatives of the JET…. While it hasn’t been an issue for me yet, I can see where people feel that the fence is not solid enough for their needs. I don’t typically angle my joints, so my fence nearly always stays at a dead 90. After I dialed it in, I’ve only had to adjust it a very small handful of times over the past 5 years. The other thing that drove me nuts was making precise adjustments to the thickness when planing. I wound up adding a Wixey gauge that provided a digital readout for the planing thickness, and it has been amazing. The costs of the combo machines can be a bit of a turnoff. I went with the JET, love it, and have only occasionally wondered if I should have gotten the Hammer. I’d suggest checking them both out as options for you and see what feels best. Love the new space. Super happy to see your business branching out with your JKM collab on the router jigs. Definitely excited to see where you go!
Congratulations! Happy for you. Looking forward to seeing what you do next, what you do about storage amidst the support brackets, and most definitely any furniture builds. I’m currently doing planter boxes and jigs. Some jigs are complex, like the S.N. X-Y drill press table I’m in the middle of, so I find it rewarding to go back and forth between projects and jigs unless there’s a necessary jig for safety or pertinent to a current project. I’m not liking my old, used 6-1/4” craftsman jointer/planer. I spent a whole day trying to adjust the knives and still not happy with the results as a planer. I just go with it for now and after thickness planing use a hand or electric planer for glue up’s. See you on the next one.
Great looking shop , I know how you feel. I have been in my shop 16x36 for 4 months now. I spent first month moving things over and over again then I finally hard plumped in my dust collecter. Owe and my dust collecter and miter saw right by my roll up door. Miter saw folds up out of way and I use a leaf blower to clean up around it. My table saw and other tools hard plumped in even got the blank spot for my bandsaw one day. A miter saw station didn't work for me.
on those long take up hose sections - just take short pieces of 2x4 to act as a floor support and tape the hose onto one every couple of feet - you can then slide them together , the hose will compress along it's length and reduce draw length for the suction...
I purchased a similar setup four months ago and have been looking at doing away with the bracing for the overarm dust collector also. I've had two thoughts: one is to have a welding shop create an oversized ell brace that would follow the support tube back up, and then under the top, if that makes sense. The second would be a brace that extends from the bottom of the leg back to the saw cabinet. The problem with either of these is the weight for the brackets is likely to throw the balance of the saw off, if the mobile base is used (I have the industrial base). I've moved it only once since setup, and the experience with my old Unisaw was that I moved it only once a year, if that, but the balance issue is still a thought.
You may want to consider a dedicated dehumidifier for the shop. The mini-split will pull some water out of the air when it is cooling, but that may not be enough to keep the humidity down to where you want it. There's a bunch of options on Amazon that will run about $1k and they'll keep the entire shop dry enough to keep from rusting all your nice new tools. I live in the northwest and find it useful, so it should be 10x as helpful in the Garden State.
Congratulations on your new shop. I am sure you will love the stability of the tablesaw. Not to mention the airconditioning. I am 18 months into my new, smaller workshop and still moving machines around.
The whole thing is really well thought out. Only then do you realize what you have to consider when setting up a workshop. Mine has grown over the years and therefore had to be rebuilt again and again. I wish you lots of fun, happiness and above all health in your new home and workshop.
I definitely feel the tension between building "real" projects and shop projects. I've fallen into a pattern where in between client projects, I try to tackle one or two shop projects. Its a nice relief valve for all the ideas you come up with when you notice inefficiencies while working on a non-shop project that you don't want to stop and take the time to correct.
I was watching a video from Capt. Eddie and he suggest using a Dry Lube Like T-9 for protection of surfaces. It leaves no residue to transfer to your hands or projects. Love your new area and looking forward to some projects from you. Thanks Tim
Oh God...you deserve your new amazing space and table saw..you gift us every time you post a new video class and everyone here hopes all the best for you...waiting for the new video project.. congratulations from Brazil
Hey Tamar, I originally started with a separate 6" jointer and 12" lunchbox planer. I switched to a 12" jointer/planer but found it a little difficult to get used to constantly switching back and forth.
A lot of the jointer/planers on the market have aluminum fences and from what i've seen and my experience, they're fairly flimsy, and even if you get it set to 90 degrees, slight pressure on the fence while using can deflect it out of square. Furthermore, a lot of the jointer/planers have a very long fence post out the back of the machine that prevents you from putting it against a wall.
Just some food for thought. I know that there are a lot of fans of them out there too, but coming from having separate machines, I found the transition difficult.
Totally agree with you. I have a cheap combo (350€ here in France) and it is not very well manufactured. It does the job but with some pain on setting it up correctly. IMHO, if you go for a combo you need a semi pro/pro one with an iron casted top. Definitely not cheaper than the two separated tools and it take some space also. Not good, not bad solution but I don't think it worth the investment when you already have both.
Scott, I had the 6” jointer and 13” planer, upgraded to the 16” jointer/planer combo Hammer from Felder. Yes it took a bit to get used to switching it it from jointer to planer but now that I am totally worth it. Much bigger jointer planer and smaller footprint. Don’t give up on the move to one machine
@@chippychippy8291 There's models where you don't have to switch between different modes to do either planing or jointing.
Wood-mizer have a couple of models.
I agree. The fences are flimsy.
I got the Rikon 25-010 10” jointer/planer and would NOT recommend. Jointer tables are aluminum, are not long enough and deflect too easily. Even worse, the planer doesn’t plane parallel so I always end up with a trapezoid like one side is lower than the other. I’ve tried to adjust it, even contacted Rikon and nothing had worked.
Honestly I wouldn’t even sell it, as I can’t in good conscience take money for it from another person.
Lesson learned.
Love the real time panic on the slabs. I totally get that when your focus is suddenly shot and you HAVE to know what happened. Anyway, good luck with the new shop can wait to see the final set up.
if I lost track of "my slabs', I'd have to drop everything until that was sorted out!
For me it's usually my pencil.
I know, right? "don't edit it out just leave it in, they'll get it" for the win :D
"Real time"? There were multiple camera angles :)
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I just love her ❤️ She's an awesome representative of us women in woodworking.
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Is her awesome ability to not "mansplain" nature or nurture? [asks Cliff Clavin]
Ladies that do woodworking bring great content.
@@trep53 Most do, but there are a couple that think they have to dress super skimpy and I'm not a fan of that.
Yes she represents women well. I have used a number of her project and tool ideas. She puts a lot of effort into her work.
This video is surprisingly refreshing. You pro youtubers make it look so easy and clean so it's nice to see that you're still a human being! A hard look at the process, even if messy, can sometimes be more helpful than a really slick build video. Thanks!
Have you considered piping your dust collection through to the garage, reduces the noise in your workshop and any dust gathered on bag etc. Looking forward to seeing you set up the space.
If the DC is put is in the garage it'll suck all of the conditioned shop air into the garage in minutes. There would have to be an enclosure around the DC with the air vented back into the shop.
@@kwilliams2239 Ohhhhh
@@kwilliams2239 good to know, thanks.
@@kwilliams2239 my grandpa had an air conditioned shop with DC in the garage. Worked like a charm. Kept noise down and saved space. Small shop and the DC didn’t come close to pulling all the conditioned air into the garage.
@@jrhenry24 Think about it. 1200CFM moving from the air conditioned shop to the DC in an unconditioned shop with air exfiltration to the outside. Where is that air going to go? At 1200CFM, assuming a 2-car garage-sized shop (24x24, say) with eight foot ceilings is ~4,600 cu. ft., that's just short of four minutes to pump all the air out of the shop into the garage. Scale for your shop size and DC. The numbers don't lie.
Worse, that air will be replaced by warm, humid, air from the outside. The cast iron tools will be cool because of the AC and you're now introducing humid air. What can go wrong?
The only answer is to return that air to the shop. It's easier to build a closet in the shop with baffling and a large vent returning the air to the shop. You could build the closet on the garage side but watch fire codes.
Looking forward to seeing videos made in the new shop.
I'm going to miss the old table saw.
I recently put up a small rumber lack using french cleats. Still waiting for it to fail.
Nice workshop :)
Regarding Jointer/planner, if you get a good one (like a Jet JPT 12", Rikon 25-210H: 12″ Helical Planer/ Jointer or bigger), you'll have no problems switching. You can easily use casters to move it around if needed (like in the "new brit workshop"). Quite useful for super long boards, or just because you just want to rearrange everything. And it would free the middle of your shop, as it would go perfectly well along the long wall. I personnaly have 0 problem with the jointer fence, while switching mode or moving it around. Jay Bates has a hammer A-31, great machine but just a bit less convenient for switching from jointer to planner.
Idea...for the mitre station. Why not make a flip top rolling cart with fold out wings that has your planer on one side and your mitre saw on the other side? Then you can use the wings for both tools...inlet and outlet will be there then as well.
Just a thought....
Congratulations on the new shop! Moving is so stressful. What kind of structure are you going to use for your #rumberlack?
I have a Hammer A3-31 Jointer/Planer combo machine and I highly recommend taking a look at one. It has a 12" capacity and with the optional mobility kit it's super easy to move around. I keep it tucked up against the wall and roll it out when needed. I opted for the segmented cutterblock which makes the machine super quiet to operate and leaves a fantastic finish on all types of wood. As far a cost it was less than buying an 8" jointer and 13" planer separately and it takes up way less space than 2 machines would. Also I would recommend trying Starrett M-1 protective lubricant to help with rust issues. Thanks for taking us along on your new shop adventure!
Welcome back, Tamar! And MANY CONGRATULATIONS on your move, new shop, and NEW TABLE SAW! I am so happy for you - thank you for being such an inspiration to us all - your enthusiasm and skills are so appreciated. I look forward to watching your new builds... Love the outtakes at the end of your videos, too!
@Hit me up @CustomTamar via Telegram ughhh this is is spam!!!
@@3x3CustomTamar I thought it was, which is why I came back to this video to check it out!!! I can't stand spammers.😒
Hi Tamar,
Congratulations on with your new workshop. Indeed, one can make so many plans, there will always be other factors to pop up.
Enjoy it to the fullest.
Willy from Belgium.
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Having separate spaces for machinery and assembly is what I love most about my shop. Hope you enjoy your new space and good luck with your channel, I always love your videos.
Thanks so much!
Well done! Well... not done yet, but getting there.
I bought a Contractor Saw in 2018, with the cast iron wings. And I rewired for 240 volts, which was a chore, since clearances are tight.
Looks like a great space Tamar and so happy for you to now have a shop where you won’t freeze in winter. Congratulations and looking forward to some awesome projects.
What an absolute joy you are! Thank you for so openly sharing your thought processes, which give me direction on organizing. My wife and I love working with you! Thank you for all the work involved in sharing, especially in the midst of being the Mom, wife and moving! I do not know how you do so much for us too!
Congratulations on the new shop, I'm very happy for you! The future is going to be sawdust awesome. For rust protection I've used Boeshield t-9 (developed by Boeing for Aerospace) it's really good.
I live on the north shore of Lake Michigan, and I have lots of humidity in the summertime. When I got my new table saw, it only took 1 day for rust to show. I have solved this by covering it every night when I leave my shop. All I do is cover the top with an old beach towel and then place a 3/4" plywood sheet on top of it. I have it there all winter too, my shop is only heated when I am working with a ceiling heater, and it has never shown any rust since this practice started. This is easy and costs little. I do this with all tops that have cast iron tops: jointer, drill press, etc. It works for all.
So nice to see you Tamar, I love the new shop, I’m sure you’ll maximize all that space to perfection like you do with all of your projects, assembling table would be a good start before constructing the kids beds, however you will figure this out for sure !!!
I have a Hammer A3 41 jointer/planner with their silent power cutter head. Great machine, saves a lot of space over separate machines. It quick to switch from jointer to planner mode, takes me about a minute.
Love your new shop! I have the same HF dust collection and try to keep the biggest dust producers closest to the unit and least producers farther away. Additionally, adding portable shop vacs on sanding tools keeps dust hoses shorter. Looks like you have a good layout but keep your options open as the layout plan will change as you begin to use your tools. This new addition will make creating so much more convenient for you.
It has only been 3 weeks? It seems like forever!!! So glad to see you got everything set up. And honestly... the lighting does not look bad at all. It comes across on video pretty good. Congratulations on getting all organized... now... build us something cool!
The lighting is so weird. It feels brighter than my old shop. But for some reason on camera it doesn’t come off that way so k have to bump the iso
@@3x3CustomTamar it's probably the frequency of the lights or tone I think they call it. Your eyes will perceive it differently but it's more of a visual effect than reality.
You can kind of notice it at the display areas at the hardware store but it is really noticeable from a dark room and swapping the light sources.
Good to see you are no longer in the freezing garage. You will change your setup a few times in the future. I did. I would suggest an Oneida dust deputy. It works well with my HF dust collector. Only mess with the plastic bag once a year or less.
I am just starting to fit out my first work shop so this is really interesting to get ideas about what I should be buying and how I should be laying things out. My space isn't as large as yours but is almost exactly square being just over 16 feet each way and that is allowing me to have everything perfectly aligned. Does anyone else have a mental itch about creating straight lines and avoiding things not being square - or is it just me? 🤷♂
I'm building a 18 x16 shop and everything will be on casters to avoid getting boxed in with a given layout.
I like the idea of the assembly table. A neat project I saw a while ago on DIY was a large torsion box assembly table. The maker designed it to be the flattest and true surface in his shop. He had a pretty big shop and made it at least 4’x8’, but he built large pieces of furniture.
The shop is looking great! The layout will be fluid for the first year I’m sure while you’re really getting your best workflow
As woodworkers, we are uniquely qualified by adapting to the chaos of our natural medium (wood) and our former mistakes. Evolution fills the gaps of the vessel or environment. Workflow evolves too. Pilgrim Tamar will do well.
Oh for sure. After a big project I’m already making changes in my mind
Very nice shop upgrade. Look forward to your future videos.
I would recommend getting the SawStop MB-IND-000 Industrial Mobile Base and the out-feed attachment.
Congrats and nice shop space. You have a well thought out plan for efficiency and keeping as many things mobile is helpful. I’d consider putting the miter saw and planer on the same wall. Deep breath on so many projects, but I’m looking forward to seeing them and well deserved getting the saw stop! 👍
Tamar, what I did with my dust collection, (because I am in a small stand-alone building) was to build an outdoor "closet" for it and the compressor. I found a through-the-wall port from Rockler, but they also make them of steel for woodstove pipes too. So the closet is attached to the outside wall, insulated with foam board and soundproofing. The pipe from the DC goes through the wall at the ceiling and goes around the shop with drops to each power tool. I do have the Rockler blue hose with an attached handle for easy disconnect that runs from a drop to my center island with a built-in table saw. I leave the hose on a hook when not in use and when I want to vacuum up a pile of dust & chips, I attach the hose to the floor attachment or put it onto the table saw. The nice thing about keeping the pipes up high is that it does not interfere with wall cabinets and the wood storage rack. Something to think about if you have an outside wall.
Congratulations on your move. The new ship is looking good and, I'm sure, will get organised really soon. I do have a criticism, one of my pet hates. Please don't allow your tape measure to retract at speed. If you do this you will eventually wear the slots that allow you to do internal and external measurements in the end tab. Your tape measure will then start to measure short.
I've got a Hammer A3-31 (12 Inch Planer - Thcknesser Combo) with the Spiral cutter Head, and i absolutly love this beast!
so quiet, powerful and the results are Beautiful, most times without sanding!
most times, i only do a light brush with a bronze brush to clean up the last fibers, and bring the wood to a light, natural structur.
We've been waiting a long time for this. It looks great. Congratulations.
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For dust collection, consider the Harvey G700 - While it is big, expensive and horizontal vs vertical, it is so much quieter than the cyclone DC systems and it is powerful. Plus, you can put a bench on top of the unit.
Well thought out plans for your shop. It’s going to be awesome when you get it all together. Btw, the router jig is wonderful!!
Your thoughts about your dust collection is a real good one. Do a solid main pipe along the ceiling/soffit and you cna branch out to every station.
Congratulations on the new house and shop Tamar! After building one of the best woodworking channels using a job site saw, nobody deserves a Sawstop more than you do. Look forward to seeing the projects you will make with it.
I would build a bench above the jointer for the miter saw. Use a long bench type stool to access the higher saw, where you only need to stand right in front of the saw.
Loved the bloopers, and the very real moment of "oh no, where are the slabs?" I think you are correct though, at that price point, the latest saw stop at nearly 1k - competitors need to step it up. Sure, you can find them cheaper, and if you are careful you might not have any injury (if you are lucky) but that'll just about pay for itself the first time it stops you from doing something stupid.
Loved the angles you used, multi camera setup could be extremely helpful. Admittedly might even save you time on editing as you don't need to transition unless you want to.
Great video Tamar!
> competitors need to step it up
They did. Bosch made the Reaxx. SawStop sued them to force it off the market.
Most of the SawStop patents start expiring this year and next, though, so hopefully we'll see more affordable, safer saws pretty soon.
@@sumnerhayes3411 Copying the idea of a patent was a bad business plan. Competitors can and should be looking for 'new' innovation not how can we re-engineer a competitors product to do the same thing. But, I concede that you absolute are correct that Bosch tried to do the same thing. Patents are a pain, especially for inventors, but without them, any big business will just snatch the idea of a small start-up and duplicate.
@@Makkenhoff Bosch came up with a completely different and innovative solution than SawStop. Their airbag approach doesn't damage the blades and they don't use a mechanical arrest as SawStop does.
The case was badly decided, as patent cases often are.
@@sumnerhayes3411 Plus, there's already way superior technology out on the market compared to saw stop, which in comparison is really outdated.. And frankly not that great.
Just look at Felder PCS. But as with all things, it costs money, more than a saw stop...
I'm so happy for you. I love how well you explaine everything on your videos. I am a cabinet maker and painter and know all to well about outgrowing your space.
Keep up the great work young lady.
Love the new shop i have a jointer/planner and it's a bit of a pain changing back and forth but if there is limited space in my shop so i just have to suck it up and deal with it.
It's better then having no machine nothing at all.🔨🔨🔨🔨😀😀😀😀
Haha that is true!
Welcome to the SawStop family. I love mine, in spite of the affinity for rust! Once you get the pastewax on, that should buy you at least 6months or so of not having to worry about it. I wished I'd listened to your guidance, though, before I did the first cleaning; I used circular motions that definitely marked the surface up. Ah well.
As someone who’s dust collection is a cyclone on a shopvac, I use my garage door to my advantage. My jointer and planer store next to the door. I roll them to just inside the door and I open it up and shoot all the debris out the door. The leaf blower is a speedy way to clean out the shop and driveway and the chips end up in the yard. Full disclosure, my shop garage door accesses the back yard so the noise doesn’t upset the neighbors. Yes, it is chilly in the winter and hot in the summer but if you plan and stage everything first the door is not open that long.
Sounds like a good system!
I struggled with space and after a few years decided on a combo jointer planner from Felder with a helical head. Change over is pretty quick and the machine is amazing. I am milling hickory right now and it doing a great job. I have their 12 inch model which is sufficient but I know others who love the 16 inch.
Congrats on you new space. It looks great and you will love the mini split. I added one 8 years ago. I love it.
Good luck unpacking
Thanks so much!
Say , last year I purchased a super cell from Oneida dust collection. I set the unit OUTSIDE the shop area. Like in your garage. No noise in the shop or valuable real estate being used. I worked with a man named Guy. Helped me lay in all out. They are in sycrause ny I think. I love it. I don’t think I could have a better set up. Good luck..and keep those hands moving 😋
Just found the video. Great upgrade with the Sawstop. Just went through a do or don't I question myself regarding Sawstop and decided just not the right time yet. Going up to a 10 inch, but a cheaper contractor Rigid 4560. But congratulations on your move and your new work space.
I know RUclipsrs Jay Bates, Rag n’ Bone Brown, and Scott Walsh all have combination jointer/planer machines. You may want to see if they’re willing to share their thoughts about them. Congrats on getting into the new shop (and house). Looking forward to seeing it all come together over time!
A jointer/planer is a great space saver. I would recommend the Hammer line of machines. Quality construction and industrial build.
Congrats on the new shop!! You could get pvc garage door stop moulding for around the side and top of your garage to keep heat/ac in the garage.
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I have a 10' x 14 workshop. Everything is modular and multipurpose. I was able to build an entire kitchen for my son as well as use the room for my fine art studio or wood carving projects. It also serves as general workshop for repairs of all kinds. Organization and creative design is a must and you seem to be on your way.
Almost there!
Hi 3x3, I put my portable planer under my table saw which has wheels. The stock travels in the same direction for both machines, so it's usually pointed in the right direction.
The shop is looking great Tamar!! You are so entertaining to watch! Not only are you an amazing craftsman…your very humble and your able to laugh at yourself which makes you very relatable!!!
Awesome excitement on your new space! Really cool to see how stoked you are about it. As for the jointer under the horizontal lumber storage, it will work well-exactly what I did in my 20’x20’ shop. Today I took delivery of a Laguna Sheartec JX8 jointer and when placed under the wood storage, it’s like I lost zero space but now have an 8” jointer.
I did a RUclips shop video prior to the jointer install so if interested in the link, let me know.
Just got to this video. Nice shop! I have a 12" Joiner planer w/carbide insert helical head. I absolutely love it! Its 5 hp so chews through anything. I still keep my Dewalt around but don't seem to use it near as much.
Boeshield is the bomb for protection. My son lives in TX where the humidity is over the top. His saw stop table saw started the rusting process before he could actually move in completely. He cleaned the top and swears by the stuff. No rust ever again. No damage to the wood products either. Just a thought. Have fun with your moving in. Love your vids!
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Nice to see you back Tamar! Another data point from me on the jointer/planer combo topic. I have 12” Jet with a helical head and it’s sensational. I have to say though I’ve kept my dedicated DeWalt thicknesser as I just find it easier. I often find myself having to joint and plane just one more board after I’ve done the rest and having two separate machines saves a lot of back and forward flipping between settings on the jointer. The convenience of the separate thicknesser being ‘just there’ wins it for me. Good luck with your decision making and looking forward to seeing you flip from ‘router-jig Queen of Chicago’ to ‘table-saw-jig Queen of Chicago’. I’m sure you’ll be back to normal soon enough. PS your trim router jig arrived a couple of weeks ago and I love it! Highly recommend it to anyone reading!
Awesome! So glad you like it! And yeah. That’s my thinking. Sometimes I like to keep the machine set to thickness bc I might need another board or something. We shall see ha
I went with the 12 inch j/p combo. I got the Felder/Hammer 12 inch one. Definitely worth it. I just didn’t have space for both the jointer and the planer separately, and I don’t find that having to do the conversion is ever an issue. It’s really easy to just plan your workflow so you do the jointing first, and then the planing, when milling wood for a project.
Shop looks great - I wish I had that much room!
Soffit duct location is great. WD40 is great for abrasive pads. After top dries I would paste wax it. Stay away from "combo" tools, too many compromises. My old shop used a 55gal drum with a cone dust separator which I built. Two drums in series would reduce almost all dust. You are a thinker. Keep up great ideas!
thank you and bless your heart moving is hard and then setting up the new shop wow .
It was an interesting couple of weeks!
Fix the gap on the garage with White PVC/Foam Garage Weatherstrip at Lowe's - this is where I got mine and fixed that garage gap to keep the garage from letting the HOT air get in.
Congratulations on the new space, and best of luck on the layout. I’m in a tiny 144 square foot space which I’m constantly trying to arrange better and keep clean and uncluttered. Can’t wait to see how yours comes together.
Happy to see your back on screen! Congratulations on move, saw, and your progress. We moved , 10 months ago, down sized. Did all the “ honey doos“ , as promised, before going back to my projects. A year from sell, buy, “ honey doos” , reorganizing tools in an extended third car garage. Glad yours seems to be a quicker transition . Awaiting more of your projects.
You are having fun planning that shop, and imagining what working in it is going to be like. Half your luck!! You might want to make an early project to be a trolley/mobile table at the same height as your table saw and workbench so as you work on a project, you can put the timber through the jointer or whatever, then on top of the mobile table, then just push the mobile table to the next tool/station. That keeps all your parts together, and saves a lot of wandering back and forth from place to place in your shop.
Congratulations on the move! I have the HF 2HP Dust collector with the Oneida cyclone and a barrel from Uline. I used DIYTyler’s design and it’s awesome! I was able to place that and my compressor in an adjacent shed with piping through the walls. Very quiet. And I installed led light bulbs for each to know when they are powered on through a wireless remote.
Sounds cool
Congratulations on new shop. I recently purchased a Hammer combo unit that contains sliding table saw, shaper, jointer and planer. I bought this to conserve on space and to simplify wiring and dust collection. The combo jointer planer works great (I have 16 inch capacity). Modern combo tools work great, are really precise and are cost competitive compared to buying individual tools. Factoring in cost savings for electrical and dust duct simplification it’s been well worth it. If you run a two or more person shop it’s not ideal to put all of those tools in one package as you can only run one one at a time. However, for a single person shop it’s ideal. Changing from one tool to another is fast and easy to do. Sorry for long comment, but got for the combo units (from good manga).
I am redesigning my shop with the addition of the planer and jointer. The planer, hooked to a dust system, will fill your bags very fast. I added a Seperator after the planer and it is capturing 75% of the shavings really saving the main system. I got the barrel and kit from Rockler and it works super. Look forward to your new videos.
I too just upgraded to the SawStop from the same Dewalt Contractors saw you had. I use mineral oil on the top, my shop is super humid and it works great. I use mineral oil on all metal surfaces on the various tables. I added a large Rockler silicone pad on top of the sawstop when using it as a bench after applying the mineral oil.
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I have got a 8x10 combined planer/thicknesser, and I love it, plus I have it on wheels, with locking casters, so I can just pull it out when I need it, handy as my workshop is only 8'x12' 🤣
I put my mitre saw on the DeWalt rolling stand. Very flexible bolts for attaching the saw. My mitre saw is a DeWalt but the frame is very versital. It has collapsable and height adjustable in and outfeed arms. One of the best purchases I made for my shop. So easy to have anywhere in the shop or completely out of the way if needed.
I have a Laguna combination Table saw, jointer, planner, shaper and mortise all in one machine. Definitely saves room for a smaller shop; however you have to add additional set up time for your projects to configure equipment. Most of the time this is no problem….
I have a 12" CWS jointer planer Combo unit. Its a helical head and I absolutely love it. Transition from jointer to planer is about 30 seconds. The whole thing is insanely sturdy and at three horse it is very powerful. Before I had a small Delta jointer that I put a helical head into but it wasn't wide enough. Having a 12" jointer is amazing. I would totally get one. I ordered it Feb 2020 and git it October 2020 and it cost about 4400.00. I have a smaller garage shop and it saves a ton of space. Highly recommended.
Congratulations! After the first few projects, the optimal layout will start to come to light.
I need to build myself one of those rumber lacks also. Thumbs up, and thanks for posting!
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I have an Oneida Supercell with quick clamp ducting, its awesome but expensive. you can have infinite bends and the ductwork is easily reconfigured with quick clamps when shop layout changes. congrats on new shop!
I have a 16 inch combo unit with a spiral/helical cutterhead and I love it. I've had it a year and a half and it's held up great, and is still dead accurate. Barely a minute to go from jointer to planer and the other way around. Takes up very little space and handles long boards. I think the longest board I've milled on it was a piece of white oak 8 ft long by 2 inch thick by 10 inches wide and the machine handled it very well, without any visible or audible slowdown.
Congrats on the move! Jointer-planer combo: Hammer A3 41. Jay Bates really seems to like his (cost: Arm/Leg).
Seems like a popular one
Nice Space. And it is nice to know I am not the only one who flips around the first letters of words while I am talking. On a recent trip I was looking for a place to park the camper while we ate lunch. And the "Purch Charkinglot" next tore restaurant was where I did it.
We now cannot drive past one with out the kids reminding me about that one.
Oh well.
Having a 12" wide jointer is a plus. If it were me, I would want to stand in front of the actual machine if possible to make sure I could comfortably work with the height of the jointer table. You would need a couple roller stands to stabilize in and outfeed of long boards. Nice new shop! Enjoy!
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Regarding the combined jointer-thickness planer, there are machines that you can switch between functions without even stopping. The Wood-Mizer MP160 is one example that I can find in a hurry but I am sure there are more of them out there.
Great video and smart plans experimenting before central dust collection and duct installation.
Fit wheels / castors to everything. so easy then to move things around, ijust reorganised my garage this week, moving giant cabinets on castors.
Nice shop, I like the non-square shape I think it gives you more usable wall space and eliminates 90 deg corners.
It’s been working great so far!
LOL @the sheer terror of misplacing the slabs! Glad you kept that bit in the video.
@3x3Custom - Tamar - is this a thing? -_____-
Good Luck with your NEW home and shop. I'll be watching for your updates and new projects.
Hi Tamar!
I’d like to make a quick plug for the jointer/planer combo machine. I’m currently using the JET JJP-12HH, and I absolutely love it! For tricky to manage spaces, the savings are well worth the changeover process. It takes less than one minute to convert from jointer to planer mode, and most often you will be doing all of your jointing first and then your planing after your stock has all been jointed. The single change over for the process is not bad at all.
As with any jointer or planer setup - including if you decide to do separates, I cannot recommend the helical head cutters enough. No fussing with blade sharpening, much cleaner cuts, everything is a time saver with added quality.
Cleanup of the machines is dead simple, which is a nice added bonus, and maintenance is minimal. Also, I never would have purchased a 12” jointer had I gone with a separate machine, but I am so incredibly grateful that I have it. I joint oversized stock *all* the time now. Why? Because I can!
Negatives of the JET…. While it hasn’t been an issue for me yet, I can see where people feel that the fence is not solid enough for their needs. I don’t typically angle my joints, so my fence nearly always stays at a dead 90. After I dialed it in, I’ve only had to adjust it a very small handful of times over the past 5 years. The other thing that drove me nuts was making precise adjustments to the thickness when planing. I wound up adding a Wixey gauge that provided a digital readout for the planing thickness, and it has been amazing.
The costs of the combo machines can be a bit of a turnoff. I went with the JET, love it, and have only occasionally wondered if I should have gotten the Hammer. I’d suggest checking them both out as options for you and see what feels best.
Love the new space. Super happy to see your business branching out with your JKM collab on the router jigs. Definitely excited to see where you go!
Congratulations! Happy for you. Looking forward to seeing what you do next, what you do about storage amidst the support brackets, and most definitely any furniture builds. I’m currently doing planter boxes and jigs. Some jigs are complex, like the S.N. X-Y drill press table I’m in the middle of, so I find it rewarding to go back and forth between projects and jigs unless there’s a necessary jig for safety or pertinent to a current project. I’m not liking my old, used 6-1/4” craftsman jointer/planer. I spent a whole day trying to adjust the knives and still not happy with the results as a planer. I just go with it for now and after thickness planing use a hand or electric planer for glue up’s.
See you on the next one.
Great looking shop , I know how you feel. I have been in my shop 16x36 for 4 months now. I spent first month moving things over and over again then I finally hard plumped in my dust collecter. Owe and my dust collecter and miter saw right by my roll up door. Miter saw folds up out of way and I use a leaf blower to clean up around it. My table saw and other tools hard plumped in even got the blank spot for my bandsaw one day. A miter saw station didn't work for me.
Yeah. I really only use it for rough cutting. It feels like a waste of a wall. We’ll see. Ha
on those long take up hose sections - just take short pieces of 2x4 to act as a floor support and tape the hose onto one every couple of feet - you can then slide them together , the hose will compress along it's length and reduce draw length for the suction...
Living up in the Great Lakes area I’ve ran across this brand Thermo Traks. It pushes the door tight and seals an overhead door.
I purchased a similar setup four months ago and have been looking at doing away with the bracing for the overarm dust collector also. I've had two thoughts: one is to have a welding shop create an oversized ell brace that would follow the support tube back up, and then under the top, if that makes sense. The second would be a brace that extends from the bottom of the leg back to the saw cabinet. The problem with either of these is the weight for the brackets is likely to throw the balance of the saw off, if the mobile base is used (I have the industrial base). I've moved it only once since setup, and the experience with my old Unisaw was that I moved it only once a year, if that, but the balance issue is still a thought.
Good luck on your new venture. I Love your attitude and open mindedness about all your challenges. God Bless.
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You may want to consider a dedicated dehumidifier for the shop. The mini-split will pull some water out of the air when it is cooling, but that may not be enough to keep the humidity down to where you want it. There's a bunch of options on Amazon that will run about $1k and they'll keep the entire shop dry enough to keep from rusting all your nice new tools. I live in the northwest and find it useful, so it should be 10x as helpful in the Garden State.
Congratulations on your new shop. I am sure you will love the stability of the tablesaw. Not to mention the airconditioning. I am 18 months into my new, smaller workshop and still moving machines around.
Started my first project and I can’t believe how nicely it cuts through thick hard maple!!
The whole thing is really well thought out. Only then do you realize what you have to consider when setting up a workshop. Mine has grown over the years and therefore had to be rebuilt again and again.
I wish you lots of fun, happiness and above all health in your new home and workshop.
I definitely feel the tension between building "real" projects and shop projects. I've fallen into a pattern where in between client projects, I try to tackle one or two shop projects. Its a nice relief valve for all the ideas you come up with when you notice inefficiencies while working on a non-shop project that you don't want to stop and take the time to correct.
I have a Hammer combo machine. I absolutely love it. Perfect every time and it is very easy to switch back and forth.
I was watching a video from Capt. Eddie and he suggest using a Dry Lube Like T-9 for protection of surfaces. It leaves no residue to transfer to your hands or projects. Love your new area and looking forward to some projects from you. Thanks Tim
I’m looking forward to seeing you fill up the space and all the projects to follow.
We coat our cast Iron Machine Tables with Oil after a day of use; Diesel works very well, as does any multi purpuse oil, etc.
Congrats on the new space! You're so talented and creative. I love watching your videos.
Congratulations, and God willing, the new workshop will be better for you. from lebanon
Hi Tamar, this is great that you have new workshop. I am looking forward your new projects.
Awesome to hear!
Oh God...you deserve your new amazing space and table saw..you gift us every time you post a new video class and everyone here hopes all the best for you...waiting for the new video project.. congratulations from Brazil
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