Four Reasons To Buy A Blu-Ray Player Instead Of A CD Player

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  • Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
  • If you are shopping for a new CD player and curious if a Blu-ray player might be a better option, then check out this video where I compare the Sony UBP-X800M2 blu-ray player to the Cambridge AXC35 which is a dedicated CD player. Note, at the time of this video, the Sony blu-ray player was on sale for $280!
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    00:00 - Intro
    00:36 - Reason 1 - Price
    02:10 - Reason 2 - Features
    06:30 - Reason 3 - Sound
    12:37 - Reason 4 - Obvious
    14:45 - Which Should You Buy
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  • @Sguerrero33
    @Sguerrero33 Год назад +172

    The best reason a music lover would buy a Blu-ray player is to watch concert DVDs. Some of the best shows of bands that don't play live anymore are on DVD.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +13

      Great point thank you!

    • @bwithrow011
      @bwithrow011 Год назад +7

      Agreed 👍! I have a bunch of them

    • @TheGreatTomDix
      @TheGreatTomDix Год назад +4

      RUclips has most I know of!🤘

    • @ENGBriseB
      @ENGBriseB Год назад +4

      Well said...

    • @Timewaits4no1
      @Timewaits4no1 Год назад +6

      Yep, I agree. A lot of concert DVDs were never released on Blu-ray so DVD is the only way to watch/listen to them. Honestly that's pretty much the only DVDs I still play regularly

  • @MrSonofsonof
    @MrSonofsonof Год назад +159

    One issue that hardly anyone seems to talk (or care) about is the mechanical noise of cheap CD/Blu-ray etc. players. Some of them really do whir and rattle a hell of a lot in a way that older CD players from the 1980/90s didn't.
    Unfortunately these days, when we buy nearly everything online, you don't have the opportunity to go to a shop, put a CD in the mechanism, and see how quiet it is and how quickly it loads.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +16

      Yeah I wish there were more audio stores for auditioning gear.

    • @pliedtka
      @pliedtka Год назад +11

      Remember the mid 1990 CD players with large plater, some Pioneer - very quiet by today's standards.

    • @Bugatti12563
      @Bugatti12563 Год назад +6

      That’s why I bought a revised 1990 Philips cd player instead of a blu ray unit.

    • @myrealusername2193
      @myrealusername2193 Год назад +10

      That’s why I use my old CD player for music, despite also having a blu-ray player. Plus there’s the fact that I can use analog out much more easily.

    • @harpalchauhan428
      @harpalchauhan428 Год назад +2

      Im lucky i bought a denon 3313ID in 2013 still running perfectly but best thing its a fanles design and so silent

  • @kevinhill4328
    @kevinhill4328 Год назад +140

    Agree with much of this. My issue with using modern movie players is the lack of operating buttons on the unit and the poor display options - covered here when talking about using a TV. My compromise is to use a "vintage" dvd player from the early 2000s - preferably a Sony as they are more likely to have SACD. You get digital and analogue output, a remote but you aren't lost if the remote is and a decent display. Other bonus, they are dirt cheap.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +6

      I keep my eyes peeled for those cheap finds too!

    • @alexxbaudwhyn7572
      @alexxbaudwhyn7572 Год назад +13

      Yep.
      Scored many Sony, Oppo, Integra, Panasonic, Pioneer, Toshiba and other disc players at thrift the past decade or so.
      Cd, Dvd, and Blu-ray, Most of the DVD and Blu-ray players I pick do SACD and or Dvd Audio.
      I also take good condition 5 disc carousels from Technics, Sony, Pioneer, etc. Some of the Sony DVD carousels or Panasonic 5 disc changers do SACD and or Dvd Audio too
      Never really liked those high capacity 100-400 disc changers, end up forgetting what's in them, misplacing cases or discs, time consuming to load and unload, etc.
      But 5 or 6 disc changers are the sweet spot for hours of selective or background listening

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +4

      Those 100+ players always need the belts replaced too lol

    • @rosssmith8481
      @rosssmith8481 Год назад +7

      Even better.
      Get a used PS3, not only can you run digital out, you can burn and store all your CDs on the hard drive. Plus it streams Netflix, Amazon, and RUclips.

    • @sdrtcacgnrjrc
      @sdrtcacgnrjrc Год назад +4

      @@rosssmith8481 I'm completely ignorant of playstations -- would that need to be connected to a monitor or a TV then? EDIT)/ or could it be controlled via bluetooth from a phone?

  • @DAVID-io9nj
    @DAVID-io9nj Год назад +103

    The obvious difference is being able to play DVD! For me, it's not just movies, it's also concerts of my favorite artists.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +9

      Agree with you on concert DVDs!

    • @mickschnabel
      @mickschnabel Год назад +4

      100%! You'll always want the best quality when it comes to watching live concert discs, bluray all the way (or DVD if that is all that is available)

    • @davidmuth4571
      @davidmuth4571 Год назад +5

      I bought a Korn "best of" CD and it came with a DVD of a gig they played at CBGB. A "best of" Pantera CD came with a DVD of the music videos. At that point I began look for CDs that came with a DVD, and I found a lot of them. Sometimes these are called "Digipacks". This is great for me because I can't go to most concerts because of the anxiety I have in crowds of people.

    • @davidmuth4571
      @davidmuth4571 Год назад +4

      @@mickschnabel I prefer BluRay for the much better sound quality, and even if it's not a concert movie. For films made before Bluray, the video quality does not always make a big improvement, but the sound often does.

    • @FrancisLitanofficialJAPINOY
      @FrancisLitanofficialJAPINOY Год назад +3

      Most DVD players can also play VCD 2.0 discs.

  • @antfirmin
    @antfirmin Год назад +33

    Been using an LG DVD player to play CD’s for 12+ years, plays SACD’s too.
    I keep getting Blu-rays in box collections so I am tempted to upgrade to a Blu-ray player so appreciate this video.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +5

      Thank you! This player dropped in price from when I recorded this video.

    • @edwarddore7617
      @edwarddore7617 Год назад +1

      I mean considering blu-ray has been around since 2006, there was no reason to upgrade, the picture quality is noticeably better than DVD, and at least here in the US, I don't know about other countries, a good quality (not videophile or audiophile, but still) blu-ray player can be found for around $100, or less

    • @lucasRem-ku6eb
      @lucasRem-ku6eb Год назад +2

      Old DVD \ Blu Ray boxes are not 4k HDR, so i keep buying them, you need Older disks, keep 3 sets of all of them ?

    • @tomekichiyamamoto2177
      @tomekichiyamamoto2177 Год назад +1

      Maybe you’ll loose rca connections and direct player without a tv…

  • @danpatrick2175
    @danpatrick2175 Год назад +10

    Excellent video. I’ve been using a Sony BD player as my CD transport for almost 2-years. I have the (coax) digital output fed to my stereo amp and the HDMI output connected to my TV (for movies, etc.). My BD player is an older model that still has a display making it easy to use without the TV when listening to CD’s.
    I also use the front panel USB connection of the BD player to access a flash drive with a large collection of music files. When playing music from the flash drive, I use the TV screen (from the HDMI connection to navigate the folders / files on the flash drive. The Sony BD player menu system works pretty well as an interface for this.

  • @akaFrits1
    @akaFrits1 Год назад +74

    Just a word about the sound comparison: if you do an A/B test, the most important factor is to equalize the output volumes, if possible within 0,1 dB. Simply because our hearing curve isn’t straight. Louder means experiencing more high and low frequencies (with a low volume you hear mainly the mid frequencies).
    Comparing different DACs on different volumes tells you exactly nothing about sound differences.

    • @cameronkrause4712
      @cameronkrause4712 Год назад +2

      very true, it's really tough to tell what you are really hearing unless you have taken this step.

    • @dickJohnsonpeter
      @dickJohnsonpeter 8 месяцев назад +1

      You mean 0.1dB? why do people put commas in numbers?

    • @akaFrits1
      @akaFrits1 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@dickJohnsonpeter My mistake. In English it should be a dot (in most other languages it’s a comma)

    • @user-rr3ci3ky6w
      @user-rr3ci3ky6w 5 месяцев назад

      IM LEARNING

    • @dickJohnsonpeter
      @dickJohnsonpeter 5 месяцев назад

      @@akaFrits1 Oh yeah that's true but why does any country do that since it will always cause confusion in the absence of context? How would someone know if someone is writing a number such a 1,010 (one thousand and ten) or if you mean 1.010 (1 and ten thousandths)? If you're doing math there's no context to go off so there has to be different symbols for each which is why we use a dot instead of a comma for decimals.

  • @dp9324
    @dp9324 Год назад +19

    Its a solid idea actually, been using a regular DVD player for CDs in my workshop for years

  • @AndrewEbling
    @AndrewEbling Год назад +7

    Makes sense. I can remember when I bought my first DVD player (probably around 2002), it sounded significantly better than my ~1995 Technics CD player, which already sounded great to me ears. This was through the analog outputs.

  • @whssy
    @whssy Год назад +20

    The only disadvantage I've found with using BDR players is that the laser seems to wear out faster. For that reason alone I play CDs on CD player. And DVD-A/SACD/Blu-Ray on my BD player. I usually buy second-hand but lasers wearing out has been an issue I've even had on new players. And when they stop making them, it's going to become as hard to find second hand players to replace one that's worn out as it is to find DVD players right now that can play SACD and DVD-A.

    • @josephguo6256
      @josephguo6256 8 месяцев назад +1

      150 a pioneer one, no big deal. it's flimsy but very cheap. good audio and video quality.

    • @marcse7en
      @marcse7en 2 месяца назад

      I've had CD players for around 35 years, and I have some early players around 40 years old. I've had DVD players since they were introduced, and Blu-Ray players for 15 years.
      I've NEVER experienced laser problems of any kind. At all. Ever.

  • @slinkman79
    @slinkman79 Год назад +1

    Did you compare the PCM layer of the DSOTM SACD on both devices, or did you compare the PCM layer on the Cambridge with the DSD layer on the Sony->Emotiva? They tend to sound very different

  • @masonb9788
    @masonb9788 Год назад +2

    We have a lower priced Sony BluRay player. It’s connected to our TV via the hdmi. Then I take the analog outs from the TV to my receiver, an older Yamaha A/V receiver. I also take a optical out from the TV to the Receiver. Both methods sound really good. The receiver is about 20 years old and the Samsung TV is about 10 years old. No idea what kind of DAC is in either the receiver or the TV but they both sound fine and pretty much the same. The BluRay player has a nice TV interface and the other part I love is that I can load a USB drive with files (FLAC, MP3, WAV), plug it in the front and it will play them just fine using the same interface.

  • @machavez00
    @machavez00 Год назад +8

    I bought the Sony X700 for movies AND CDs/SACDs. It is connected via HDMI to my Yamaha TSR700. As mentioned, an HDMI connection is required to play the DSD layer of SACDs.

  • @nout1972
    @nout1972 9 месяцев назад +12

    Gapless music playback is a reason to go with a CD player or a CD transport. Any DVD or Blu Ray player I have used/tried play a small pause between tracks, which is deadly for many classical music CDs and Beatles' Abbey Road for instance.
    And a dedicated CD player is often much quicker in reading discs and select/skip tracks.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  9 месяцев назад

      Great point thank you!!!!

    • @michaelellis7941
      @michaelellis7941 5 месяцев назад +2

      That reason alone is end of discussion, in my opinion. Also having a noisy transport mechanism, having to use it with a tv on aswell, dim displays ect.. hell don't scrimp and get hold of a high end dedicated slot loading cd streaming player that will blow these players right out of the water!!!

    • @jrockofages5413
      @jrockofages5413 3 месяца назад

      Waiter? Check, please....

    • @stevet7487
      @stevet7487 День назад

      OPPO 203 & 205. No such issues. Superb sound quality. No gaps in play back. Display on the front.

  • @minimumriffage7520
    @minimumriffage7520 Год назад +2

    Great video, and I'm glad I found your channel. Refreshing to have someone who is knowledgeable about audio without being condescending.
    Good points about getting a BR player. I have the Sony X800 in my basement with my large 4K TV and 5.2.1 setup, and it's fantastic for films and my 5.1 albums. I've been contemplating getting a standalone cd player for my upstairs setup, where I mostly play a TT via my older (not vintage) Marantz stereo receiver. I've been running a crappy Pioneer dvd player for listening to cds, but it's on its last legs (the tray will open and close at random when trying to put a disc in). Another BR player makes a ton of sense, and I would have to find one with RCA out or a DAC as my receiver has no digital inputs. Thanks for the great advice!

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +1

      Thank you for the kind words. Lately, I've had fun getting back into CDs and their various players (BR, etc) after spending the last few years listening to mostly vinyl. That's what makes this hobby fun, always new ways to listen to our favorite tunes.

  • @paulbourdin5477
    @paulbourdin5477 8 месяцев назад

    Hi, thanks for the video! How do you connect the Sony UBP X 800 M2 with your Amp without doing it by the TV? What kind of cable are you using to listen CD directly to your Amp…?! 😊

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  8 месяцев назад

      I use a coax cable into an external DAC which then connects to my amp via RCA. I have a video on my channel showing how to make that connection. The only trouble is the player doesn't show any info on the front of the unit so you are flying blind without a TV screen. It's doable, especially if you are like me and just plop a CD in and listen front to back.

  • @joeythedime1838
    @joeythedime1838 Год назад +6

    The Sony ES UBP-X1100ES multi-disk player was a great choice before it was discontinued. It came with a front display, coax and optical digital outputs and with a set of RCA outs - but the Sony UBP-X800M2 at it's current price of $248 is a steal.

  • @IndySnowman
    @IndySnowman Год назад +7

    I have compared many dvd/blu-ray players vs comparably priced CD players over the years, and the CD players almost invariably sound better. Add to that the lack of proper controls and display on the DVD player, and a CD player/transport makes more sense.

    • @Aubury
      @Aubury Год назад +1

      My findings to ..,

    • @michaelprice1216
      @michaelprice1216 10 месяцев назад +1

      Plus the DAC/processor in a CD player is designed to do that job alone. The chip or DAC in a DVD/blu-ray is designed with more of it's real estate devoted to video processing over audio in mid-line players.

  • @12voltvids
    @12voltvids 2 месяца назад

    I have been using my Sony Bluray player to play music for years. In addition to the audio disc formats you described, and the ability to play audio from a USB input, it will also play the various digital formats on disc such as .mp3 .flc ect from CDR, DVD-R and BD-R. 25 gigs of disk based music. I have used mine that way for years. I burn digital files to DVD and BD discs and make specific playlists. For example Xmas music, all on 1 disc. I do have a TV connected for menu, but when making a disk based play list, I put all the tracks I want on a separate disc and then hit the shuffle button. Different mood, different disk. Concert discs is another great option because many concerts were only released on DVD or BD.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  2 месяца назад

      Whoa! I have to reply saying thank you for all the videos on your channel. I've been watching for years now and you've often helped me fix an issue repairing gear. I feel honored you stumbled on this video and left a comment. You're one of the GOATs on RUclips. Thank you so much!

  • @F1AVORR
    @F1AVORR 5 месяцев назад

    Newer to all of this. I have the same Sony UBP - X800M2 and have a yamaha receiver. I noticed when I put in the disc it goes straight to PCM, is it supposed to be PCM or something to change in the settings?

  • @yvesboutin5604
    @yvesboutin5604 Год назад +9

    Like CD players, DVD players have different technology and quality parts, hence, different sound. In the past I used a cheap DVD player and the sound was flat and lifeless. Two years ago, a friend gave me his old Pionner Elite DVD player. The sound was great, even better than my Arcam CD73 player. I guess nothing replace testing a product on your own system. Thanks for the video! You gave us a lot to think about, and this is the most important thing!

  • @Riel93
    @Riel93 Год назад +19

    I recently bought a Sony S790 blu ray player. Got it to play newly acquired CDs and the fact that some of the limited editions come with a concert as a BluRay. Using my Fiio K39 pro as a DAC and it helps that my Blu-ray player has a display so I can navigate through the track list :)

    • @flufyfolder4892
      @flufyfolder4892 Год назад

      Fiio K39 is on sell for £699 , bloody hell! This is expensive 😜

    • @ssanc6
      @ssanc6 Год назад

      @@flufyfolder4892 I would not pay for it. I looked up on google, but it didn't come up.

  • @Intercoaster
    @Intercoaster 10 месяцев назад

    Spotted some really neat shelving for vinyl in your video. Is it custom built or proprietary? If the latter, could you please provide a link for the source. Thanks

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  10 месяцев назад

      The lighter wood shelves are Kallax from IKEA. The darker wood was a brand sold at Target that’s unfortunately been discontinued.

  • @andreaslossius7920
    @andreaslossius7920 Год назад

    To enjoy SACD you need to have RCA out on the Blu Ray? Copy protect on SACD does not let you play the SACD layer digitally?

  • @denniszolton
    @denniszolton Год назад +8

    I have the same Sony and it is a good unit. I use it for my 2.1 video set up. I also have a high end audio only 2.1 system with a cd drive and a fine dac in my amp. I’ve played the same cds in both, it sounds considerably better with audio system. The video has active speakers with a sub, great sound for movies, tv and streaming. I guess for receivers or surround. Systems the Sony would be a great buy.

  • @johannkrist
    @johannkrist Год назад +8

    Having to turn on the TV to listen to music is a deal breaker for me. Team CD player here.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +1

      Very understandable! Thank you for watching

    • @marcjohnson9270
      @marcjohnson9270 Месяц назад +1

      Why does one have to see what track he is listening to? Sound quality over convenience gets my vote.

    • @stevet7487
      @stevet7487 День назад

      Huh? Unless you are listening to a boom box, the cd player and the blu-ray player both need amplification. Turn on your integrated amp or receiver, select the source and press play. It's the same process for both. No need for the TV to be turned on. Team quality here.

    • @johannkrist
      @johannkrist День назад

      @@stevet7487 I'm talking about the small info screen on the cd player to see number of tracks. Often missing from blue ray players. Thus needing to turn on the TV while listening to CDs.

  • @zackwilliams2046
    @zackwilliams2046 Год назад

    Did you ditch your Cambridge AXA25 Amp for Emotiva gear? If so, what do you like about the Emotiva gear more than the Cambridge? Thanks!

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +1

      I like that the Emotiva preamp has digital connections while the Cambridge did not. I swap gear in and out a lot though so it’s not always that one is better than the other but that I like to keep experimenting with the playback sound options!

  • @northernthrifter8817
    @northernthrifter8817 Год назад

    I'm currently rebuilding my stereo and entertainment set up, this is very helpful, I'm currently using a HDMI DVD player into my amplifier via the RCA cables do you think blue ray will improve this? It's a cheap DVD player I think it only cost £15 and it's as good as the previous Technics dedicated CD player that I used to use.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +1

      I have another video about what to look for when buying a vintage CD or blu ray (DVD) player that will allow you to upgrade the sound by using an external DAC. That video might help you decide!

    • @northernthrifter8817
      @northernthrifter8817 Год назад

      @@ForeverAnalog thanks I'll check that out 👍

  • @yankee7809
    @yankee7809 Год назад +8

    Certainly if you get a really good Blu-ray player that's transport is quite the benefits of playing Super Audio cd's and DVD-Audio discs alone are worth the investment. While those formats never caught on they still are stunning and are well worth listening to. I have both a Rega Apollo cd player and a Pioneer ES series Blu-Ray player in my headphone system and love 'em both. You have made excellent points!

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +1

      Thank you. I’d love to try out a Rega player!!!

    • @edwarddore7617
      @edwarddore7617 Год назад +2

      There are also 5.1 blu-ray audio discs too.

  • @ijeff2005
    @ijeff2005 Год назад +5

    Very helpful. Looking to buy a new blu-ray but also want to have the audio capabilities including SACD. I also noticed recently Best Buy has this particular Sony model on sale with a $80 discount!

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад

      Yeah I bought mine on sale!

    • @enrage6073
      @enrage6073 Год назад

      But you have to know that you won’t be able to output the SACD digital signal from the SPDIF to an external DAC, in case that’s what you wanted to do

    • @mgrsdgfsdafsdgrsdgfsdg6980
      @mgrsdgfsdafsdgrsdgfsdg6980 8 месяцев назад

      @@enrage6073 Actually you can. I have a Sony 4k player and play SACD's (not hybrid, my SACD's are only pure SACD). Yes, its D2P, you still need to go through the HDMI to get pure DSD, put atleast the option is still there.

  • @JimUK
    @JimUK Год назад

    We brought a Panasonic DMP-UB900EBK 4K player some years ago and use it for music as well, it wasn't cheap, but it has a display on the front, it also has HMDI audio out, Coax, optical and RCA outputs, it's even got an additional eight RCA outputs for 7.1 sound, it really does everything.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад

      Awesome thank you for sharing and watching!

  • @dinosaursr
    @dinosaursr Год назад

    Great to see the channel grow. Keep it up.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад

      Thank you so much to subscribers like you! I really enjoy making videos and the community here on RUclips always makes for great conversation.

  • @CharloBagis
    @CharloBagis Год назад +15

    I have a Panasonic DP-UB820 Blu-ray player, excellent Blu-ray player but also very good CD player, has both RCA outputs and a front display, it's also very elegant and well built

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +3

      Nice

    • @moomcmoosson1992
      @moomcmoosson1992 Год назад +2

      I have the european Model (824) of this one. It really is the best model all around on the market for an affordable price. Any model more expensive than this just has increasing diminishing returns. Also, the Blu-Ray Player market is nearly non-existent at this point with only Panasonic, Sony and LG. I guess there are boutique builders but those seem to be for people with more money than sense.

    • @l21n18
      @l21n18 Год назад

      Would be nice if more of the cheaper models still had analog out

    • @DonTagliatelleRaviolli
      @DonTagliatelleRaviolli 4 месяца назад

      I bought one of those less than a month ago. I've set it to downmix all audio formats to 2.0 to play through my Marantz PM6006 UKE amp, so I have it connected via those analogue outputs to line inputs in the amp.
      I also have a Marantz CD6005 cd player, which I've owned for about 2 years before the Panasonic.
      So it was kind of mandatory and very easy, for me to do a music cd playback comparison.
      Night and day. The blu ray player is nowhere near as good as the dedicated cd player for music. NOWHERE. The instrument separation and stereo imaging simply weren't there with the Panasonic. Neither was the detail.
      You could say it's because of the DACs being different and you'd be right. But I saw another video that said a dvd player uses an entirely different laser for the dvd format that isn't as good as picking out the information required for music reproduction.
      And the CD6005 is a budget level cd player (albeit one of the best).
      If somebody buys a dvd player with either no experience of a good cd player, or no ear for music or detail, then yes, you will hear music being played and you will be tempted to say 'Wow, I've spotted a super bargain life hack that a dvd player can play CD's and you don't need a cd player'.
      You might even be tempted to leave a glowing review of it on Amazon, saying 'And it plays CD's really well, too' but it is not true and it comes due to a psychological phenomenon known as 'confirmation bias', whereby you are only saying it to confirm your prejudicial opinion that 'it must be good because you picked it and you know the difference because you ain't daft; far from it'!
      When, REALLY, the truth is, you don't know shit from Shinola and you are fucking daft if saying that, or anything like it.

    • @marcjohnson9270
      @marcjohnson9270 Месяц назад

      @@DonTagliatelleRaviolli See above comment.

  • @kingofgrills
    @kingofgrills Год назад +43

    If you have the ability to use the HDMI output on the Sony, it is a fantastic experience. Being able to stream DSD from SACDs to an external DAC is wonderful. I have the same Sony, and I tell people this all the time. Still, so many “audiophiles” continue to insist that a dedicated CD player sounds better which is laughable. Also, the Sony also plays Blu-Ray audio discs. 😉

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +4

      Thank you, I hope to start using the HDMI output very soon!

    • @AiwaLover
      @AiwaLover Год назад +8

      CD Players sound better with CDs than DVD or Bluray Players.

    • @ronlevine8873
      @ronlevine8873 Год назад +5

      The Sony is one of the few players that can still output DSD over HDMI. (Sony still supports that format since it was co-developer of the SACD.) But I don't know if your receiver or DAC or whatever recognizes that format or if it just down converts it to PCM.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +3

      I’m not using hdmi for this video but hope to upgrade amp soon and try it out!

    • @user-lt1nj7nq4z
      @user-lt1nj7nq4z Год назад +7

      In what way is it laughable, more like logical. A dedicated CD player has one job to do and is engineered to do that very well. The Sony, which I have, is designed to multitask and whilst it's great for film it really cannot hold a candle to a half decent CD player. If you disagree then I suspect you have never heard a decent CD player or just in denial.

  • @dougieroberts7045
    @dougieroberts7045 2 месяца назад

    Interesting video, enjoyed watching. My only reservation would be that I have to wonder on the longevity of the respective players. Ergo, is the laser in a cd player designed to last longer ? I have a Rotel RCD cd player, not sure which model, I have had it years, I cant even remember buying it, I think its the 965 model, its played literally thousands of CDs and still works great. I have had Blue Ray players come and go, models from Sony, Panasonic and it seems they have a 'lifespan' on the laser, just my opinion.

  • @cinqiwc
    @cinqiwc Год назад +6

    Thanks for this interesting video. I also have a similar Sony blu ray player and it even allows to stream music from my NAS as well. For me the biggest downside is that the TV has to be on when listening to CD’s. By the way thanks for showing the Pink Floyd SACD, I will definitely try to find that one!

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +1

      I bought the Pink Floyd CD from Acoustic Sounds online!

    • @photonqopt
      @photonqopt 5 месяцев назад

      I agree with you about the biggest downside, having to have TV on for music.

  • @erikaleksandermoe1634
    @erikaleksandermoe1634 Год назад +3

    For me another reason is that you can playback Blu-ray pure audio discs. I have several of these great editions of my favorite classical recordings. Karajan’s 1963 Beethoven symphonies cycle being one.

    • @andrewbrazier9664
      @andrewbrazier9664 Год назад +1

      Such a shame Blu Ray audio did not become mainstream. I own a couple of discs Bob Marley GH & Lionel Richie - stunning resolution & warmth 🙂🇬🇧

  • @oscarmiranda7912
    @oscarmiranda7912 Год назад +1

    Hello a question I buying a UBP-X700 in best buy but I have a issue with RUclips when playing movies the screen come on green color audio was ok but what was the issue the cable HDMI

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад

      Hi Oscar. Unfortunately I’m not able to answer that question but maybe someone else in the comments can.

  • @user-pg2bj7rv1t
    @user-pg2bj7rv1t 2 месяца назад

    I have an older Panasonic Blu-ray Player that I bought through Craigslist for $20.00. And it DOES sound better than my Tascam CD recorder on playback. You are SPOT ON!

  • @hackapump
    @hackapump 10 месяцев назад +16

    I can’t believe I didn’t think of this. Been looking for a new CD player, but the problem is prices have skyrocketed, probably because people don’t buy them anymore, and so they’re manufactured in smaller quantities. BD players on the other hand still have a market. Thanks for the heads up.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  10 месяцев назад +3

      Good luck shopping and thanks for watching!

    • @latonbuzzard2386
      @latonbuzzard2386 5 месяцев назад

      @latonbuzzard2386
      57 seconds ago (edited)
      I have a Rotel system that consists of 1x preamp, 4 x power amps, HDCD (High Definition compact Disk) CD player. I bought a Sony blue ray player around 8 years ago that sounded better than the Rotel CD player on the system. I am about to buy a new pre amp and am thinking of adding a Sony play station to give me massive options with my current set up. I am not a gamer, however I will be able to play games, as well as cd's and 4k video, all in one box. Sony blue ray players were featured in the UK what Hi Fi back in the day, for outstanding music playing capabilities, I think this will be my way forward. In this digital streaming age the writing is on the wall for playing film, music, and cd's on separates.
      I understand the new Sony play station has a cd, dvd drive on one version, and also a fully digital version is also available. Its probably the last time you will see a cd drive on a games player from Sony.

  • @johnt1877
    @johnt1877 Год назад +13

    One thing about a Sony Blu-ray player that you did not mention and may not know is that it will not play SACD quality over the coax cable (look at the owners manual). The only way to get the SACD signal is over HDMI. Otherwise, it will send the regular CD signal through coax. Your receiver would need to accept HDMI input in DSD format. I know of no DAC that is on the market now that will accept HDMI. Some have an I2s input that works with HDMI cable, but the HDMI signal will not work in an I2s input. Therefore, you would need an audio-video receiver that accepts DSD signal over an HDMI cable to actually enjoy SACD quality from a Blu-ray player. I find it to be very annoying that Sony will not set up their coax to send DSD signal from a SACD so that you can use an external DAC with an analog receiver without having to buy a separate AV receiver and bypass your expensive external DAC. Furthermore, very few SACD players or transports on the market send HDMI over I2s, so SACD owners are basically out of luck with most inexpensive setups on the market today, unless you don't care that you paid extra to get an SACD only to find you can only play it at the basic CD quality.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад

      Yeah this is why I didn’t spend time in the video comparing SACD to CD sound on the players. I knew I was hearing the SACD layer like I should.

    • @CH-ho5vr
      @CH-ho5vr Год назад

      @@ForeverAnalog Its always been that way with any SACD player it is a security feature, also the Sony BR Player can double the frequency of music playback (CD, USB & streaming from a PC), just need to go into the menu and activate it. I know because i have exactly the same Sony player. Sounds awesome at playing CDs and I've had a lot of CD players in the past.

    • @ScottGrammer
      @ScottGrammer Год назад

      @@CH-ho5vr And that's why SACD sucks. It's bad enough having all the DRM in video software. I will not buy audio software with DRM on it.

    • @AT-wl9yq
      @AT-wl9yq Год назад

      You're correct, but you need to remember 2 things. First, Sony stopped supporting SACD just a few years after they released it. That was back in 2007, so its been 15 years now. Second, Sony doesn't make that player. Its a $50 generic player that they buy from some company in China. They put a Sony label on it and sell it for $300. Just the fact that there's no analog outputs tells you all you need to know. SACD wasn't even a requirement. Whoever Sony buys these things from had the format included in whatever transport and dac they used. Sony wanted a blue ray player. The other formats were just a bonus.

    • @Ezees23
      @Ezees23 Год назад

      HDMI to coax/RCA/Toslink converter FTW!!!

  • @doctorphil0078
    @doctorphil0078 Год назад

    With the Sony what not use a small video monitor to see the track menu?

  • @shotgunmasterQL
    @shotgunmasterQL Год назад

    I currently switched up my setup since my modern receiver broke, so I'm currently using an older (but high quality) all analog Tandberg amp and the headphone out from my TV for most digital sources.
    I'm no DAC expert, but thankfully the DAC in the TV sounds pretty okay, not as good and clean as my AVR's, though. Slightly "fatiguing" I guess, but the sound isn't muddy or dull.
    However, for CD use I'm now using a Sony DVD DVR I originally bought from a thrift store for digitizing VHS tapes. I also do some retro gaming, and while I don't mainly use the DVR for any of that stuff, I have experimented with its video transcoding/conversion capabilities, which seem to be very good. So since the analog video output quality seems to be really clean and well handled, I assume the audio DAC should also be up to that par.
    I think the analog output from that DVR through the all analog amp now sounds a bit better for CDs than my previous setup. The amp probably also influences that as well, since my speakers are bright, my old AVR used to be slightly bright as well, while this Tandberg amp is definitely warmer.
    But I would definitely prefer the DVR's DAC over my TV's. If I want to just have some noise while doing stuff, loading up my rips through the TV is easy and even for some quick listening it's not bad, but if I get a new CD that I really want to listen to, it goes into the DVR and analog out to the amp.

  • @peteberry3826
    @peteberry3826 Год назад +6

    My only complaint about using blu ray player is the lack shuffle/random play options on blu ray players.
    Especially if you plug in an external hard drive.

  • @bmboldt
    @bmboldt Год назад +6

    I bought a couple used older Sony 3D Blue Ray Players for $15 each. They both play SACD and have lots of features. They are old enough that they have RCA outputs and I don't have to turn on the TV to navigate.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад

      I see a couple for sale in my neighborhood and might pick one up as well

    • @danieldaniels7571
      @danieldaniels7571 Год назад

      I use one of those as an audio player as well. What really impresses me about it is how well it plays scratched up CDs.

  • @Chalky.
    @Chalky. Год назад +1

    Thankfully my old dvd recorder still works, as while it doesn't have any modern smart features it does have every input/output connection I could need as an audio player.

  • @sergiogomezphotography
    @sergiogomezphotography 3 месяца назад

    Thank you for the video. I just want to clarify, If I connect from a cd/dvd player, RCA stereo out can I use a DAC and then to stereo?

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  3 месяца назад +1

      You can only connect a DAC by using the digital output on the CD player. So coax or optical to DAC then RCA from DAC to your stereo. I have another video on my channel showing the connection process which might be helpful.

    • @sergiogomezphotography
      @sergiogomezphotography 3 месяца назад

      @@ForeverAnalog Thank you, that clears it up for me . Just wondered what would happen from analog rca through a DAC

  • @JodyM2
    @JodyM2 Год назад +3

    Love my Sony UBP-X800 M2 but I wish it had a disply & a play button. I love listening to SACD's on it.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад

      Yeah the lack of display surprised me at first!

  • @JMG72ARG
    @JMG72ARG Год назад +10

    This year I did what you're saying, but I bought an older used Sony bluray player which still had RCA outputs as well as coaxial and hdmi. PLays cd's, cdr's, dvdr, bluray, anything you put into it. Also, if you have a large cd collection like myself, it's a good idea to have a discman (or several) and reserve batteries, so that your cd's have a guaranteed playable future, even if there's an energy and or internet blackout 😁

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +2

      Great idea on the Discman! Thanks for watching!

  • @hdibart
    @hdibart 9 месяцев назад

    What do you mean by "that much difference" when talking about digital outputs of each?

  • @analogueanorak1904
    @analogueanorak1904 Год назад

    Reply to Gary Ganser the first thing you need to clarify is whether your receiver accepts and decodes native DSD as not all do this. I just followed the n the manual for the Blu-ray and knew it was working as my Marantz reassuringly shows up a red display saying DSD. Some makes of receiver only accept PCM as far as I recall. I hope this reply is useful.

  • @ChadBoughton
    @ChadBoughton Год назад +7

    As someone who uses an outboard dac anyway, I agree this opens you up to pick from Bluray/dvd/or straight CD players and not have to worry about the inferior dac built into the device. I personally use an Integra DVD player, but previously owned a Cambridge CD. One thing I will say is that usually Bluray players are slow compared to dedicated units, and if there is no from panel control/buttons count me out as I don’t want to use a OSD to control it. If you can find a quality, aluminum faced player that works fast and can be controlled intuitively from the front, you’re gold.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +2

      I agree they can be slow - I stopped using my first blu ray player that I bought many many years ago due to it taking forever to load discs! This newer model loads much faster.

    • @niclaslindman
      @niclaslindman Год назад +1

      My Reciver show Where are on CD so are If function amp menu are Go get that are maybe not all can get that way but SA-CD use so show that on my Reciver what song number are on are So y 1080 Reciver have are play from HDMI audio need have BLUERAY through Reciver also Offcourse are Chose no osd so show on Reciver instead of TV screen when play

  • @bricktonyb
    @bricktonyb Год назад +4

    Good video.I now have my dream system! I am very fortunate to have recently aquired a N.O. S. Oppo BDP 95 from ebay. Even though it is 10 years old it is unused. When new it was very highly regarded for all of its features. I have many HDCD CD's, SACD, a few DVD Audio, now I am picking up Blu-Ray Audio discs. Most discs I find on Discogs. NO ONE makes such a player anymore! I feel like I found a unicorn. I love the smooth, detailed, sound this provides me. I am in a nursing home at 57 y.o. so I use this with Meze Audio Liric headphones, (thanks Zeos) Schitt Valhalla II, Loki Max, and a PS Audio Powerplant 15. Speakers just are not viable for me. Physical media is something I will always want. Records too bulky and cumbersome as I am mostly bed bound. My life is so much more tolerable.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад

      Amazing. Love it.

    • @nomorokay
      @nomorokay Год назад +4

      Your stereo is good for your health, since it stimulates you mentally and maybe physically, too. When I came out of the ICU and into an acute care bed after a serious highway crash, watching music on the rental TV with my headphones was great. When some Motown music came on, I was even kind of dancing in my bed, in spite of one leg being in traction. It made me feel so good, emotionally and physically, that I remember it still, a quarter-century later. I sustained life-altering injuries in the crash, meaning that many of my physically active hobbies and pursuits became things of the past. However, music was and still is part of my life, so my stereo helped me feel like it was not all over for me. It gives me a reason to be more active, and I do play LPs from time to time, but having to get up to lift the needle or flip the record is too much effort some days. Sometimes, I do it anyway. Other days, I pop in a CD and enjoy that instead. Anyway, know that you're not alone. Happy continued listening!

    • @bricktonyb
      @bricktonyb Год назад +4

      @@nomorokay Thanks so much for your kind words. I realize I am blessed to have what I have. I just need to feel that way more.

  • @RetroMythologist
    @RetroMythologist Год назад +1

    My old Oppo UDP-205 is now my dedicated CD player (since it was replaced by a Panasonic DP-UB9000 for watching movies)
    This thing plays everything :)

  • @mikesmith5139
    @mikesmith5139 Год назад

    Excellent comparison 👏 Thank you!

  • @davidwatts6478
    @davidwatts6478 Год назад +4

    This Blu-Ray Payer has more audio options available from the HDMI connections than the coaxial connection. If you have an older receiver with the 6 channel (5.1 Surround) or 8 channel (7.1 Surround) analog inputs , the two can be connected via the Essence, Evolve II-4k HDMI v2.0b Multi-Channel DAC. This allows me to play 2 channel & Multichannel SACDs, MLP Lossless 5.1 DVDs, and other surround options. Just make sure the player's BD/DVD Viewing Settings are set to DVD-Audio, and the Music Settings are set to Super Audio CD and DSD Multi.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +1

      Awesome thank you. I’m a two channel stereo guy for now but might get back into 5.1 at some point!

  • @hugobloemers4425
    @hugobloemers4425 Год назад +21

    I think that if you are in to vintage HiFi, the no brainier is to buy a vintage CD player. I paid $40,- for a Technics CD player with their "MASH DAC".
    I use the analog out to connect to my vintage Luxman amplifier and feel no need for an external DAC because it sounds perfectly fine to me.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +5

      Awesome. You are right, so much of this depends on what gear is being used, especially when talking vintage!

    • @adaboy4z
      @adaboy4z Год назад +3

      I have a First run MASH Technics player. Plays wonderful sounds great. Thrift store find for $12!!

    • @hugobloemers4425
      @hugobloemers4425 Год назад +1

      @J G The nice thing is then also that you can stop buying :)

    • @rosielupita5230
      @rosielupita5230 Год назад +1

      I have one Technics Mash and it has 18 bit.

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s Год назад +1

      @@ForeverAnalog vintage is better because it´s more afordable but to meet a 78 amplifier from a good brand today one had to spend several thousands of €´s to meet it´s 70´s sound ,also the phono stage on the 70´s amp. is far better than any modern amp. thats why preamp.´s are bought to meet good vintage material without spending a fortune

  • @jupitermadcat
    @jupitermadcat 9 месяцев назад +1

    I only trouble with the Blu-ray player as a CD player as I’m looking at a lot of them and I don’t have a display on the unit itself I don’t want to have to turn the TV on to play a cd. Can you suggest some that you have a display on the unit?

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  9 месяцев назад

      Good question. I can’t rattle any models off top of mind unfortunately.

  • @mrronenza
    @mrronenza Год назад

    Question Please : If I want to use a High End Machine to play CD's , Is a dedicated High End CD player Better than a BluRay one ? As I've seen an Expensive CD Players that cost thousand of $ ,Thanks

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +1

      I haven’t used a “high end” CD player so I can’t tell you if one is better than the other sorry.

  • @Jasonmadcow666
    @Jasonmadcow666 9 месяцев назад +6

    I found the biggest problem was to find a DVD player with a play button or that would play the music directly. In general, the ones I tried *REALLY* needed a TV attached to see what you're doing (and for configuration is mandatory)

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  9 месяцев назад +1

      Very true! Thanks for watching!

    • @photonqopt
      @photonqopt 5 месяцев назад

      For me, not having to turn on a TV when I play a CD is why I prefer a CD player to a DVD/Blu-ray player for music. I found a few CD players (under 300 dollars) with a digital output . I hope to be able to hook up one of them to my soundbar via an optical cable.

  • @barrybarnes2744
    @barrybarnes2744 Год назад +4

    I agree with everything you said. I use an old ps3 and get a great sound out of on onyko receiver. Also you forgot to mention space with a tape deck space is limited . So I get blue ray in atmos , games and great music all in one.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад

      Great point re: space!

    • @ENGLISHISBEST
      @ENGLISHISBEST Год назад +1

      I use a ps4 Pro loaded with hundreds of flac files & a simple menu system on my TV. But I also use a marantz cd6007 with its usb port. The ps4pro is really only good for the simple easy visibly good menu system. Whereas the marantz has the edge sonically due to a better dac. But having both gives versatility.

  • @deangale4496
    @deangale4496 Год назад

    I bought a top of the line Pioneer bdp-lx70a and the f....g cd 💿 section won't play , plays everything else fine . Got a couple to play on it and sounded fantastic any clues how to fix it ?

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад

      Sorry to hear that. Unfortunately I'm not much into repairing gear. Tried it for awhile but found there are other folks out there much better than me!

  • @JuanDavidMena-oo5li
    @JuanDavidMena-oo5li 3 месяца назад

    Hi! I have the Powered Speakers Edifier S1000 MK II and I just need to listen to my CDs, I am thinking of getting the Yamaha CD Player S303 and I don't wanna to spend more money, is it worth?

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  3 месяца назад +1

      I can't tell you if anything is "worth it" really, but I know folks who have the Yamaha player and really love it. Perhaps find a cheap used bluray player at Best Buy or Walmart first to see if you will enjoy it and then upgrade from there?

  • @dwcinnc
    @dwcinnc Год назад +3

    For years, I have tried to tell the difference in sound quality playing CDs on a vintage or modern CD player, a DVD player, a BluRay player, a PC with optical drive, or playing wav files streamed from a NAS but can't decide on the difference.. It is fun trying anyway. Regarding various connection types, I have an early Sony BluRay player with HDMI, optical, coaxial, RGB analog video and analog RCA stereo. Drawbacks with it is that it is slow reading discs, file codecs are limited and the streaming capabilities are out of date and now virtually useless. I think it was one of the least expensive BluRay players on the market at the time and was about 200 dollars.

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s Год назад +2

      digital players evolved a lot but cd players not just a litle improvement, just try a dat recorder from the 80´s and the high-end of 2000´s minidisc recorders and then tell me what sounds bettter, regards

  • @ENGLISHISBEST
    @ENGLISHISBEST Год назад +4

    No!. a cd player dedicated for music & looks sleeker in a set up. The Marantz cd6007 matches my Marantz set up with its great dac plus I can add my hundreds of flac albums via its usb slot.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад

      CD players often do look a lot better in systems than blu ray players lol

  • @mostirreverent
    @mostirreverent Год назад

    Does the Soni have I squared up for a DAC. The SCAD output is nice
    A better CD player will have a better audio section

  • @gene8933
    @gene8933 Год назад

    Does the Blu-ray Disc player play Super Audio CD (SACD) discs?
    Super Audio CD (SACD) discs are not supported for playback. However, the Blu-ray Disc® player (can play the CD layer of the hybrid disc) not true (SACD)

  • @Sunshine_Superman
    @Sunshine_Superman Год назад +3

    Sorry, but this is only good advice up to a price point and for a A/v applications that want CD/SACD/DVDA playback
    For people with a dedicated 2 channel systems ‘out with a budget end system’ then a blu-player isn’t going to cut it.
    I mean for resolving systems where it’s easy to tell the difference between sources.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +1

      You’re right that when it comes to audio advice it’s always first dependent on the owner’s system level! Thanks for watching.

    • @Sunshine_Superman
      @Sunshine_Superman Год назад

      @@ForeverAnalog Thanks, my man, fair reply. Respect.

  • @audiononsense1611
    @audiononsense1611 10 месяцев назад +4

    I will just add to point #2 with regard to SACD's this is a great choice for two reasons: low entry point and Sony is the most consistent as far as being abbe to play Hybrids (I've had experience even with higher priced models that have horrible interfaces and intermittent playback for PDM / SACD).

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for your feedback and for watching!

  • @NaveedKhan-bs1sc
    @NaveedKhan-bs1sc 3 месяца назад

    I have that 4k player and looking for a dac for it. Can anyone recommend a warm souding dac to pair with it.

  • @simeonbanner6204
    @simeonbanner6204 Год назад

    Bit confused here. Are folks buying say an older DVD or Blue ray to use the DACS inside or co-ax out to a DAC or both? Are some of the older players good enough or have good DACS built in? Also I thought the transport section of a CD player would be better right? Isn't that the whole point of just buying a CD transport? Or is all that a bit of a myth? Decades ago they used to talk about how important the transport was etc.

  • @mircobalzano2455
    @mircobalzano2455 Год назад +5

    Thanks for your great video as allways! I must say you didn't convince me .. LOL :) I still prefer dedicated CD player because, listening music is my screen-free moment of the day. One more thing: what do you think about reliability? CD players looks much better built. Big hug

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +2

      Thank you for watching. The thing I enjoy most about this hobby is that everyone has their own likes/dislikes when it comes to audio gear! I just love when someone has something they really like listening to like you do. I can't speak too much to reliability but all my old vintage CD players would eventually have problems with the lasers dying and not being affordable to replace. So I would think a new laser in a modern player would be more reliable, no matter if inside a CD or blu-ray player!

  • @johncain7949
    @johncain7949 Год назад +6

    I'm also a huge Alien fan. I was lucky enough (although it didn't seem like it at the time) to see Alien at the theater when it first came out. I had no idea what was coming.
    I felt like I was a crew member of the Nostromo!
    Just last night we watched the directors cut of Aliens.
    I just wanted to let you know Alien is now available on 4K blu-ray. Of course I rad to buy it!
    By the way I went to high school with Aliens director James Cameron!
    John from Canada 🇨🇦

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +1

      Awesome!

    • @bondgabebond4907
      @bondgabebond4907 Год назад +2

      I saw Alien in the theater. I'm surprised people didn't die from fright when that cute little alien popped out of John Hurt's stomach.

    • @johncain7949
      @johncain7949 Год назад +1

      I almost did! When asked why he cut the scene of Capt. Dallas cucooned by the Alen, Ridley Scott said he didn't think audiences could handle it. I think he was right!

  • @ringostarr8529
    @ringostarr8529 Год назад

    So question for you. The Grateful Dead release CD's all the time in HDCD format. There are no players out there with option that are current models. Is the HDCD format for just computer burning read?

    • @ringostarr8529
      @ringostarr8529 Год назад

      Nothing affordable that supports this format.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад

      I hope to figure out HDCD playback down the road as I have several Dead discs!

  • @lotog692
    @lotog692 Год назад +1

    I have exactly the same SONY Blu-Ray Player and I'd like to point out a few things.
    First, not only you get Bluetooth, but since it's a SONY it also supports LDAC, which, in my eyes, makes the Bluetooth really worthwhile. I got a Hiby R3, which actually is a DAP, but it can also act as a DAC and/or a Bluetooth Receiver. So I can connect the Hiby with the SONY via LDAC (24/96, as long as connection is good) and connect any wired headphone to my Hiby (up to my Beyerdynamic DT880 600 Ohm, because the Hiby has enough power to run it) and still walk around or sit whereever I want w/o having to worry about cables running across the room.
    Second, any wired playback functions above 24/96 require the use of the HDMI port. That includes SACD and DSD, none of which will be played through the Coaxial out. I wanted to connect the SONY to my Loxije D40 DAC, but I found out, a HDMI-port running HDMI-protocol isn't compatible with HDMI-port running I²S-protocol. 🤔 Luckily I found a converter box on AliExpress, that does a conversion. Otoh I could have connected directly to my AVR, which has true HDMI ports, but then I'd use the internal DAC of the AVR, which wasn't what I wanted.
    I bought the SONY, because I wanted to try out SACD, play DSD and I needed a new Blu-Ray player and options that can do all of that are kinda rare. But at €250 (Amazon) with the Bluetooth/LDAC option and all the other features you mentioned, this was really a good buy and I'm very happy with it. 😀

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад

      Great information. Thank you for watching and commenting!

  • @Ni5ei
    @Ni5ei 5 месяцев назад +3

    For a $300+ Blu-ray player I think the lack of a display is unacceptable.

  • @mikexcopeland
    @mikexcopeland Год назад +4

    I just picked up an older Panasonic DVD player at Goodwill for $12, as a CD transport (using optical out) and I love it!

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +1

      Awesome. It’s a lot of fun finding these for so cheap.

    • @bobf6763
      @bobf6763 Год назад +1

      Same here. It came with a remote, even displays the track number on the front of the player, and my DVD player was only $5! Sound is beautiful, too.

  • @7karlheinz
    @7karlheinz 6 месяцев назад

    In your comparisons are you comparing Blu-Ray discs to CDs? I notice a big sound quality difference between Blu-Ray discs and Redbook CDs.

  • @kenkaminskyj3170
    @kenkaminskyj3170 6 месяцев назад

    Can Blu Ray Audio Disc Play at Hi Res, 24/192? and also playback in 5.1 , besides Audio Cd quality. is this not a reason to buy a Blu Ray Player, please correct if this is not the case.

  • @papablue3015
    @papablue3015 Год назад

    I'm looking for something that plays cd/cd-r/cd-rw from my recording studio. Any ideas? Thanks!

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад

      Both players on this video will work fine

  • @mrfroopy
    @mrfroopy Год назад +8

    I'm sorry but did I miss you discussing using the analog outs of the Blu-Ray player into the preamp? I don't have a preamp with a dac and I think the Cambridge player sounds good analog out to my reciever. Every single Blu-Ray player I ever had running analog to my receiver sounded horrible and headache inducing.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +1

      I might not have tied that together well, apologies, but when I discuss the fatiguing sound of the Woflson DAC in the Cambridge CD player when listening to the Beatles and Pink Floyd, that's when I have the RCA analog outputs connected from the CD player to the preamp. The Emotiva DAC in the preamp smoothed those sounds out for me for this comparison video.

    • @mrfroopy
      @mrfroopy Год назад +1

      @@ForeverAnalog The point I am making is that this isn't apples to apples. Manyy eople don't have an outboard dac so I want to hear the Blu ray dac compared to the internal dac on the Cambridge. I get that the Emotiva is better and smoother but ..

    • @kevingest5452
      @kevingest5452 Год назад +4

      @@mrfroopy the DVD player doesn't have analog outs.

    • @masonb9788
      @masonb9788 Год назад +1

      We have a lower priced Sony BluRay player. It’s connected to our TV via the hdmi. Then I take the analog outs from the TV to my receiver, an older Yamaha A/V receiver. I also take a optical out from the TV to the Receiver. Both methods sound really good. The receiver is about 20 years old and the Samsung TV is about 10 years old. No idea what kind of DAC is in either the receiver or the TV but they both sound fine and pretty much the same. The BluRay player has a nice TV interface and the other part I love is that I can load a USB drive with files (FLAC, MP3, WAV), plug it in the front and it will play them just fine using the same interface.

    • @rosielupita5230
      @rosielupita5230 Год назад +3

      Try using Toshiba DVD Player with high resolution 192 kbps and 24 bit specifications you will be surprised how your favorite will sound like a hi-fi recording. Just connet the audio out to cd audio-in of your pre-amp or directly to your integrated. Just make sure you use high grade interconnect and the cheap ones. I have been using the Toshiba dvd player for my 15 years.
      I did a blind test with my fellow audio friends a couple years ago. I covered my Toshiba and played my hi-fi jazz CDs and asked them to guess what hi-fi CD player I have on my tube amp stereo. All were wrong and shocked to know it was a Toshiba DVD playerm. All of them now own a Toshiba. We all get to play DVD concerts through our hi-fi audio gears with or without the video connected to the flat screen TV. Recently another friend bought and tried. He is very much satisfied.
      Try it and it only cost about $30 a piece.

  • @oscarc9755
    @oscarc9755 Год назад +6

    Love this blu ray 4K player. I collect dvd, blu ray , 4K and blu ray 3D films , so it’s perfect. It can also read all different format of music, flac or m4a etc.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад

      Awesome. Thanks for watching!

    • @DarkShroud24
      @DarkShroud24 9 месяцев назад

      @@borakurt13 Sony's current upscaling in these players is really good. The Sony BD player in the video is the UBP-X800M2, I have the UBP-X700 and it does amazing even with older DVDs.

  • @phillipmeza3459
    @phillipmeza3459 Год назад

    Hi, I have and use a SONY BDP-S3700 Blu-Ray Player (HDMI & D. Coaxial Outputs) connected to my 43" TCL TV, Sony is still supporting the player with updates, but I think "Displaying Metadata" isn't on the horizon, that said are you aware of any Blu-Ray players that support this feature? (Artwork, etc.) Phillip

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад

      I’m not aware of any players with that feature but someone here may! Thank you for watching!

  • @humbertoacastillo
    @humbertoacastillo Год назад

    Thank you! I was just looking for a blu-ray player for my CDs.

  • @bobe3250
    @bobe3250 Год назад +5

    I'm with you. I own many CD players and 3 blu-ray players. I use the blu-ray players more often. If I had only one choice blu-ray would be mine.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +2

      I was surprised that I enjoyed the Blu-ray player more!

  • @johncain7949
    @johncain7949 Год назад +6

    Thanks for confirming what I have known for sometime, blu-ray players are the way to go.
    I compared my early Carver CD player and my Onkyo carousel CD player to my Sony blu-ray player. The Sony was clearly better!
    I also have a new Sony 4K blu-ray player and it is better still!
    I'm a big fan of blu-ray music concerts. Watching in 4K on my Sony 75" 4K TV and my Sony 7 channel receiver through Paradigm speakers (proudly Canadian) and I am in heaven!
    I am a prog rocker from way back, listening to I Robot by the Alan Parsons Project on CD in surround sound is other worldly.
    Thanks for another great video!
    John from Canada

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +1

      Thank you John. Your set up is impressive!

    • @bryfar6178
      @bryfar6178 Год назад +1

      I still use my recapped Carver c4000 pre amp with sonic holograghy from 1980. I Robot record has amazing soundstage with just 2 Magnepan 1.7i s, but that is one recording that sure must blow away with surround.

    • @johncain7949
      @johncain7949 Год назад

      Trust me it does.
      Other other bands that sound great in surround sound are Kraftwerk, Jean Michael Jare and Vangeles.
      Carver always made quality products going back to Phase Linear.
      Also love Maggie's.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +1

      I have a Carver preamp from the early 80s that I’m going to make a video about one day. It still has a VCR input!

    • @bryfar6178
      @bryfar6178 Год назад +1

      @@ForeverAnalog The c4000 has 2 phono stages, MM & MC, 2 Aux, tuner, processor inputs, built in headphone amp, time delay spkr amp, etc & MANY control features. I bought it new 1980. Always been happy with it. Also have the Carver M400 cube amp. 200 wpc. Drives the low sensitivity Magnepans well, but would love the high end tube amp he makes these days.

  • @monsterrun
    @monsterrun Год назад

    If im not wrong the hdmi sound output is only for 5.1 arc tech or the dts 5.1
    Optical only does stereo. Coaxial can handle 5.1 im pretty sure.

  • @u2acrobata
    @u2acrobata Год назад

    !!!! can i ask what happens when you insert an SACD on the AX35 ?!!! it doesnt play or read ?!!!!
    wow ...
    i was planning to get one in the near future cause my stereo amp is from Cambridge audio ...
    ... i guess i have to change "goals" ...
    Thanks for the warning !!!!
    Greetings from Portugal

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +1

      My SACDs are often hybrid, containing two layers for SACD and regular red book CD playback, therefore when I play them on the Cambridge, it reads the red book CD layer and plays that back instead of the SACD layer. So yes, you get sound, just not via the SACD layer.

    • @u2acrobata
      @u2acrobata Год назад

      @@ForeverAnalog wow ... that i didnt know that it worked right that ...
      I realise now that perhaps i've never heard the real SACD sound from my SACD !!!
      Cause i guess i always had "normal" cd players ... eheheh :p
      Thanks fro the explantions ...
      Tought me quite a lot
      Thanks [Obrigado)

  • @kalayongyuanOK
    @kalayongyuanOK Год назад +3

    In my opinion I still like an ordinary CD player because bluray player front panel lack some buttons like skip, pause, repeat, shuffle etc. But I respect your opinion too.

    • @lucasRem-ku6eb
      @lucasRem-ku6eb Год назад

      Front panel, is that a Joke ?
      We all run playlists, Lossless Audio, press tracks, lol, you read displays on it too, or use the remote for that, LOL !

    • @kalayongyuanOK
      @kalayongyuanOK Год назад

      @@lucasRem-ku6eb I don’t read display panel lol, it’s just that I like pressing buttons on players like what Techmoan said. Also I’m not talking anything like playlist, streaming as this has nothing to do with CD players lol. What I’m commenting here is sharing my thoughts on why I like ordinary CD players from the 80s and 90s thru the 2000s rather than boring designs today.

    • @lucasRem-ku6eb
      @lucasRem-ku6eb Год назад

      @@kalayongyuanOK i hate Techmoan, sorry, i repair old synthesizers and chips etc, effect boxes, Amega, for COOL PEOPLE only.
      lol
      I never needed streaming services online, Radio only, kiis fm, keep myself fresh.
      All lossless streaming here is by myself, needing non compressed streaming only, having control over my own tracks.

    • @kalayongyuanOK
      @kalayongyuanOK Год назад

      @@lucasRem-ku6eb well then that’s your opinion. A well mastered CD can sound better and in fact all my CDs are 80s first pressed that were made excellent compared to CDs today with loudness war.

    • @lucasRem-ku6eb
      @lucasRem-ku6eb Год назад +1

      @@kalayongyuanOK I love creative people, music is my passion, coding games too. We need old gear for that. Cool ?

  • @ahlapski
    @ahlapski Год назад +3

    I don't know the rest of your system consist of, but I think part of the problem you've encountered with the Cambridge CD player is the preamp.
    If you connect directly the Cambridge to a half decent integrated amp then to a pair quality speakers. You will find the Cambridge sounds very much different from your experience.
    Fact is the Cambridge doesn't sound harsh; far from it. I know, because I own one. Just my two cents.

  • @simeonbanner6204
    @simeonbanner6204 Год назад

    Any advice gentlemen on here? Well I do the same through a LG blue ray player. From a digital co ax it plugs into a old mission DAC bitstream. Better sound than a dedicated CD player I had (Marantz). But sometimes I get just a hiss, like awful loud white noise. Some discs it just doesn't read. They are good, genuine CDs. Not sure why this happens. Has anybody had this problem too?

  • @flufyfolder4892
    @flufyfolder4892 Год назад

    Super content and presentation - thank you!

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад

      Thank you for watching and the encouraging comment!

  • @gbrm6077
    @gbrm6077 Год назад +4

    I used a Sony Bluray player with digital output to a heavily upgraded belCanto DAC. It was really good. I then tried an Audiolab 6000CDT transport with the belCanto. There was no comparison. With the Audiolab, the imaging was very defined in space, not vague like the Sony. The sound stage was deeper, wider and there was so much more detail in the midrange and treble. The music was not veiled as with the Sony. These tests were conducted in a dedicated, treated, stereo room, with really good equipment. The results may not be as dramatic in different systems.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад

      I would like to get a hold of a 6000CDT soon. Nice to see they are currently $100 off.

    • @MrKentaroMotoPI
      @MrKentaroMotoPI Год назад +2

      Just add some Shun Mook Mpingo Discs and you have arrived!

    • @AT-wl9yq
      @AT-wl9yq Год назад +1

      @@MrKentaroMotoPI I tried those and didn't hear a difference. But the transport he recommends above will make a big difference.

    • @user-lt1nj7nq4z
      @user-lt1nj7nq4z Год назад +1

      I have the same set up, m800 for films & Audiolab 600CDT albeit into an small Arcam external DAC and entirely agree with your experience. The Audiolab is head & shoulders above the Sony for CD playback even though the Sony is linked directly to a fairly high end Arcam receiver.

  • @briannewell6064
    @briannewell6064 Год назад +3

    Just buy an Oppo and yer done.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад

      Yeah but whew some Oppos are getting up there in price!

    • @bricktonyb
      @bricktonyb Год назад

      Absolutely!

    • @bricktonyb
      @bricktonyb Год назад

      @@ForeverAnalog If you can find them.

  • @robertlewsley6363
    @robertlewsley6363 Год назад

    Great video.
    Do check out the Yamaha BD-S681 which has an LCD display so it can be used without a screen when playing Cds. Has RCA and digital outputs. Also has a CD mode for better CD playback.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад

      Thank you. I will definitely check it out!

  • @bjrnen8505
    @bjrnen8505 5 месяцев назад

    Hmm... I have an older Sony Blu-ray player that' is mostly used to play CDs. I haven't had a dedicated CD player for years. The Sony is connected with HDMI but also with a digital optical cable. So when I want to play a cd I unplug the power of the tv, open the tray, place the disc and press play. The OSD doesn't tell me the name of the tracks, I have the CD inlay for that. What more information do I need from the Sony Blu-ray player... And another thing... Is coaxial digital better than optical regarding onboard DAC?

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  5 месяцев назад +1

      I haven't done an A/B test between coax and optical yet

  • @clivepacker
    @clivepacker Год назад +3

    This is ok if you’re Joe Blow buying cheap crappy gear from anyone. Guess what? All cheap crappy gear is cheap and crappy. Even Cambridge make basic stuff although not as mainstream as Sony. True audiophiles will know that a dedicated CD player at a more typical price point will always always perform better than any video player. Get an Emotiva ERC 4 and you’d never look at the Sony again. Evaluating sound quality at the $300 price point is pretty meaningless. It’ll all be “ok”. You don’t have to spend a ton more to do way better. But there is a huge return on investment in moving from $300 to $1000

    • @TriAmpHiFi
      @TriAmpHiFi Год назад +2

      The Sony has no DAC...............It's a streaming, all digital media player.
      The Emotiva ERC4 is $650, a $325 transport & $325 dac in one crappy chassis of chinese junk, It can't even play Lossless, SACD's, HDMI or DSD.
      🔈🔉🔊

  • @insearchofruss
    @insearchofruss Год назад

    Hi. Where did you get the Minor Threat picture from?

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад

      The artist is Nathan McKee - Google and he will pop up first - looks like he still has some for sale in his webstore.

  • @keithspillett5298
    @keithspillett5298 Год назад +1

    I have a high end industrial CD recorder 'which I used for CD replay for a number of years. About two years ago, I purchased a 4K Sony Bluray player, and have barely used the dedicated CD player since!

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад

      Thanks for watching and the nice comment!

  • @ENGBriseB
    @ENGBriseB Год назад +1

    I have a LG TV OLED C2 EVO 120hz 4K. I also have a Denon AVR X2800h DAB. So it should be okay for me using a 4k Blue Ray player to connect it to my AVR using HDMI cable. I'm a bit old school and have just upgraded my home entertainment system. So need a CD player because I still own lots of old ones. So a Blue Ray Player will work well with what music ive got. Plus it will probably give me an even better sound. ? Thank you.

    • @ForeverAnalog
      @ForeverAnalog  Год назад +1

      The blu-ray player you mention will be able to play regular CDs. I'm not sure what you mean by blu-ray music, sorry. Your set up sounds great and I would suggest getting everything up and running with the blu-ray player first, then if you want to add in a CD player, go for it. Just FYI, I'm still using this blu-ray player as my main CD player so it's really just a matter of personal taste. Thank you for watching!

    • @ENGBriseB
      @ENGBriseB 7 месяцев назад

      Thanks for replying to us. What i ment is the blue Ray player Sony UBP X700 which is reasonably priced. Which will play anything from a CD music and give me good quality movies for my new setup. Its a post from yourself that's made me keep my old separates. Thanks for sharing this post.