Valve just got serious about Anti-Cheat. 👏👏👏

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  • Опубликовано: 5 янв 2025

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  • @gardiner_bryant
    @gardiner_bryant  2 месяца назад +10

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    • @martinx6502
      @martinx6502 2 месяца назад

      @gardiner_bryan I think you misunderstood the Steam Play change: the first button ("Enable Steam Play for supported titles") always just enabled/disabled Steam Play ALTOGETHER, while the second button ("Enable Steam Play for all other titles") selected whether the (rather small) whitelist was used.
      With the first button gone, Steam Play is now *always* enabled, and the second button *still* enables/disables use of the whitelist.

    • @budgetarms
      @budgetarms Месяц назад

      that looks more like a nintendo switch than a steamdeck

  • @Valkron11
    @Valkron11 2 месяца назад +455

    Good! Im sick of anti-cheat affecting game performance, especially single-player games

    • @ProtoType4588
      @ProtoType4588 2 месяца назад +32

      in a single player game piracy is justified for denuvo and anticheat

    • @Moli05
      @Moli05 2 месяца назад +2

      I actually want kernel anti cheats lol. I don't want cheaters in my games

    • @JoachimVampire
      @JoachimVampire 2 месяца назад +43

      @@Moli05 that's dumb. monster hunter, for example, a coop game, had anti-cheats and there were cheaters day 1. denuvo is stupidly easy to "bypass" which renders it pointless as anti-cheat.

    • @JustDevMe
      @JustDevMe 2 месяца назад +24

      Performance? They want kernel access before they let you play their game. That means they can access or rewrite everything on your computer including audit trails solely because you want a low ping value. Considering their net code sucks and their servers couldn't be arsed to act as a proper referee it's kinda criminal.

    • @juniorceccon
      @juniorceccon 2 месяца назад

      @JoachimVampire denuvo is an anti temper to prevent piracy. It is different from kernel anti cheater. Denuvo, do not run at kernel level it is just several checks during run time that sometimes are way too aggressive and hit the performance badly. Kernel anti cheaters is to prevent cheaters in online games

  • @Durayne
    @Durayne 2 месяца назад +367

    Very good they disclose kernel level anti cheat now.
    A filter option, removing all games using kernel level anti cheat would also be nice. If not built in, maybe a curator?

    • @bionicseaserpent
      @bionicseaserpent 2 месяца назад +49

      The next step is to make sure developers don't disrespect the steam deck and make absolutely sure it actually WORKS on deck or else their game doesn't show up on the home page or what not. That's what we need.

    • @Durayne
      @Durayne 2 месяца назад +10

      @@bionicseaserpent Not using the deck yet, but ditched windows some time ago. I mean most games without anti cheat run on linux now anyway.
      With Anti Cheat it depends wether supported or not and if kernel level anti cheat it definitely runs not.
      For steam deck there might be other reasons it does not run.

    • @storm8216
      @storm8216 2 месяца назад +9

      ​@@bionicseaserpent
      Imagine, they test it.. they put up the "It works on the Steam Deck" thing on their page, and also put up "Oh, we have kernel level anti-cheat"
      Ultimate Pain.

    • @Moli05
      @Moli05 2 месяца назад

      why

    • @Moli05
      @Moli05 2 месяца назад

      ​@@bionicseaserpentgreat idea! obligating developers to support hardware that less than 2% of users on steam have. what could go wrong 🤔

  • @Linuxdirk
    @Linuxdirk 2 месяца назад +246

    Wow, this "anti-cheat" field is basically a buy-or-not-buy field. I like that!

    • @Zorix83
      @Zorix83 2 месяца назад +22

      Until they change it after you buy it, dropping Linux support. Which keeps happening.

    • @dm.3145
      @dm.3145 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Zorix83why do they do that?

    • @MyNameIsBucket
      @MyNameIsBucket 2 месяца назад +3

      I wouldn't mind if they added online/account requirements. I know a few game I never would've bought if I knew I had to be online just to play single-player.

    • @Zorix83
      @Zorix83 2 месяца назад

      @@dm.3145 Windows supremacists. They think Windows is more secure and don't care about anyone else.

    • @betterfosset
      @betterfosset 2 месяца назад

      @@dm.3145 Just to show their current paying customers (whales mostly) that they are doing 'something' to combat cheaters

  • @bland9876
    @bland9876 2 месяца назад +142

    You know how Valve can check if most of your playtime has come from the Steam Deck or not? Imagine if Valve updated their return policy to say that if it developer updates their game to use anti-cheat, like Apex Legends just did, then as long as you have enough play time on Deck, then you are allowed to return the game regardless of playtime and get your money back.
    If it could be implemented to work properly that would be cool.

    • @peterjansen4826
      @peterjansen4826 2 месяца назад +4

      Valve can't easily check whether most of the playtime comes from the SteamDeck. There are ways to do so with a much higher probability but it is highly doubtful that Valve currently does that, most likely Valve simply looks at an envrionment variable. . As a matter of fact, for 1 particular game I set an environmentvariable with which I pretend to use the SteamDeck because that way that game would allow you to run it on Linux, without it it wouldn't. Though I did that on Epic, not on Steam.

    • @woalk
      @woalk 2 месяца назад +5

      @@peterjansen4826I think tracking the gameplay hours on Linux separately would be a very trivial feature they could add to the Steam client in a couple of hours.

    • @catgode
      @catgode 2 месяца назад +19

      @@woalk im pretty sure they do that already since steam replay or w/e the yearly recap thing is shows a pie chart of time spent on different platforms, if you play on many

    • @ThePyramidBox
      @ThePyramidBox 2 месяца назад

      @@peterjansen4826 They actually already do that, but not for Steam Deck - but for Linux in general, they log your system's name upon launching (You can check it by starting Steam from termianl) and when you play any game - Steam Runtime logs time you've played and platform, they can see it and that is why they have statistics for developers about which platforms play your game, and yes - there is possibility of returning games, even if not "officially", if your ticket will be reviewed by Valve employee - then it is more likely to have your refund approved if they see that your primal platform is Linux and not Windows

    • @peterjansen4826
      @peterjansen4826 2 месяца назад +2

      @@woalk I replied to the comment that they could easily track playing on the SteamDeck, that is very different from tracking playing on Linux. Most of us Linux gamers don't game on the SteamDeck.

  • @ZerqTM
    @ZerqTM 2 месяца назад +102

    I think the EU aught to enforce this anti-cheat disclosure thing

    • @Moli05
      @Moli05 2 месяца назад

      pls no

    • @koligiag
      @koligiag 2 месяца назад +33

      @@Moli05 why? what's wrong with a disclosure?

    • @MrMisticZ
      @MrMisticZ 2 месяца назад +23

      ​@@koligiagHe's likely a troll

    • @universalunion01unit29
      @universalunion01unit29 2 месяца назад +1

      Gotta draw a line with the EU somewhere.

    • @TheDragShot
      @TheDragShot 2 месяца назад +3

      ​​@@MrMisticZ yes, he is baiting, I've seen him in other comments already. Nobody would bootlick the way he does.

  • @wojownikwody1804
    @wojownikwody1804 Месяц назад +11

    Kernel level anti-cheat is a security breach, it should have NEVER happen, and WE allowed this madness.
    Thank you Valve.

  • @HiTechLoLife
    @HiTechLoLife 2 месяца назад +49

    I think it's an interesting artifact from the early days of Proton back when proton was quite experimental but given how mature it's become, enabling it by default was the right move.

  • @Omnifarious0
    @Omnifarious0 2 месяца назад +48

    I'm very pleased that they're choosing to highlight kernel mode anti-cheat. IMHO, that should be something that's required by product labeling laws. But, having Steam require it is almost as good. :-)

  • @xard64
    @xard64 2 месяца назад +59

    It's good that Valve is taking the first steps about the anti-cheat situation as it's been lately causing more and more issues. Though I think more actions are needed in the near future to discourage or prevent old releases being rigged with this stuff without any good practical reason.

  • @zFathomz
    @zFathomz 2 месяца назад +82

    Do you think the valve anti-cheat update has anything to do with Apex Legends?
    "Hey Legends,
    We’re sharing today that Linux (and Steam Deck using Linux) will no longer be able to access Apex Legends."

    • @AnEagle
      @AnEagle 2 месяца назад +18

      It's probably GTA 5, they can't make these updates in 5 hours

    • @Moli05
      @Moli05 2 месяца назад

      and they won't gaf because there's barely anyone playing on Linux 😭

    • @pieru
      @pieru 2 месяца назад +19

      @@Moli05 there's barely anyone playing lol apex has fallen off

    • @Moli05
      @Moli05 2 месяца назад

      @pieru true but it still has a healthy playerbase. idk why and how but it does lol

    • @bland9876
      @bland9876 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@pieruI got super into the 3v3 mode one season and then stopped playing afterwards. Kinda miss it every once in a while (they removed it in favor of other side modes)

  • @MegaManNeo
    @MegaManNeo 2 месяца назад +22

    If Framework was to pick this up and support this DIY Deck themselves... damn...

  • @Jackpkmn
    @Jackpkmn 2 месяца назад +28

    I think the switch to proton compatibility being on by default is a positive one. As Steam started to test the waters and offer Linux native games more directly I loved the feature of being able to single out my Linux native games. However the nature of Linux as a moving target due to support libraries being system context only has essentially caused a lot of these games to rot away in terms of function. If they aren't being actively maintained like say Factorio's Linux native version a lot of them don't function anymore. Or function worse than the Windows version running through Proton.

    • @jessephillips8319
      @jessephillips8319 2 месяца назад +2

      Yeah, I'm surprised the list wasn't updated with playable verified titles. But SteamDeck ignored it anyway

    • @revanisalive
      @revanisalive 2 месяца назад +2

      i mean at this point, with how well proton works, is there even a reason for devs to make linux version?

    • @stupidjaosn
      @stupidjaosn 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@@revanisalive managing appdata for games that run through Proton is a pain, since every game has it's own WINE folder in steamapps/compatdata, and they're titled with game IDs instead of names, so if there's a save file you wanna get to, or if you want to manually edit a config file, you have to dig through all those folders. this *could* (probably never will) be helped if Valve set up Proton to use links in the compatdata folders that point appdata to one central folder, like how it would be if the games were running in an actual Windows install. i manually set up links to my main WINE appdata folder in all the games that i even occasionally have to access appdata for.
      with a native Linux build of a game, the save data and other configuration can go to .config, or it's own folder in the home directory or documents, anything is better than being buried under 17 folders in compatdata.
      also, in performance terms, Proton works good, but it can have a lot of CPU overhead, depending on the game. most games these days are so GPU bound that any modern CPU will have lots of power to spare, and will run just as good as Windows native, but some games that are more CPU bound will suffer a lot of performance loss compared to running native.
      good Proton support is better than a bad quality port, but a good Linux build is still ideal.

    • @rarrawer
      @rarrawer 2 месяца назад

      @@stupidjaosn It would probably be possible to write a script that does that.
      Basically you'd just make a dir of symlinks, where the symlink is named based on the game and points to the matching dir ("$HOME/steamapps/compatdata/game_id/").
      a simple for loop over the game_id dirs present there, looking up the game's title from a list of "game_id:game_title", slugifying the title string, and creating the symlink for that game.
      i.e. `"$HOME/steam-proton-links/Fallout 4" -> "$HOME/.steamapps/compatdata/SOME_ID/"`
      I presume there's a bunch of sites with listing of the full steam catalog that can be used for the key-value mapping of GameIDs; but there's probably an internal table or metadata files the pertinent parts of that same info could be grabbed from locally.
      Or even various symlinks for the useful locations each game has; albiet requiring more complicated logic and/or human investigation to produce the listing of what games store what where.
      e.g:
      Savegames: `"$HOME/steam-proton-links/Fallout 4.saves" -> "$HOME/.steamapps/compatdata/SOME_ID/C/Users/User/My Documents/Fallout 4/"`
      Install dir`"$HOME/steam-proton-links/Fallout 4.game-files" -> "$HOME/.steamapps/compatdata/SOME_ID/C/Program Files/Fallout 4/"`
      This would be a lot more involved to create, because of aforementioned game-specific paths.

  • @ThePlayerOfGames
    @ThePlayerOfGames 2 месяца назад +10

    I'd love to see the Steam search function add the ability to filter out different types of anti cheat like you can filter for languages or Linux-only and the such

  • @nathanbuskell
    @nathanbuskell 2 месяца назад +12

    "IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME!" For you younguns out there, angels in the outfield quote.

  • @Nathan84382
    @Nathan84382 2 месяца назад +14

    @2:35 "like that smash button" 😂

    • @illogik
      @illogik 2 месяца назад

      Must be new

    • @TheGoldenPro
      @TheGoldenPro Месяц назад

      @@Nathan84382 I've actually heard so many youtubers say that lmao 😂

    • @jex-the-notebook-guy1002
      @jex-the-notebook-guy1002 Месяц назад

      ​@@TheGoldenPronah it's smash that like button

  • @peterjansen4826
    @peterjansen4826 2 месяца назад +16

    Most of you probably don't know this yet, the developer of Apex:Legends just offially announced not to allow Linux-gamers to play the game anymore. They refuse to accept the simple truth that no anticheat engine will succesfully stop cheaters, at least not with the current X86-hardware. The only solution is to have a whitelist for servers, that way you can simply check a gamer before adding him and removing a gamer if he cheats.

    • @xNullst
      @xNullst 2 месяца назад +4

      Apex had its good reasons
      EAC was bypassed from opensource cheats that were simply run via sudo and then just didn't get detected
      but still windows has most cheaters regardless and the new anticheat of them won't help

    • @ThunderClawShocktrix
      @ThunderClawShocktrix 2 месяца назад +3

      or jsut do like how VAC and some other work have hacker pool where if cheats are dected the cheater is only paired with other cheaters

    • @peterjansen4826
      @peterjansen4826 2 месяца назад +4

      @@ThunderClawShocktrix Fine by me but you first have to catch the cheaters and that is best done by people, not by software alone. Game-developers could put some employees on this and they could appoint some of the trusted gamers as referees and give them privilleged access (watching back matches in which cheating is suspected...). Something like that. Most certainly anticheat software is not going to be capable of catching cheaters while not being circumvented as long as there is not a revolutionary change in how the hardware works, it will remain a cat and mouse game.

    • @peterjansen4826
      @peterjansen4826 2 месяца назад +3

      @@xNullst There is no doubt that EAC is less effective on Linux than on Windows because it doesn't run on the kernel-level but that shouldn't matter much when the % of cheaters which uses Linux for the game is so low. On Windows anticheat software also shouldn't run on the kernel-level, it simply is too insecure. Anticheat software could however run on the server-level, allegedly many game developers choose not to do that because it would be more expensive for them.

    • @JamesTDG
      @JamesTDG 2 месяца назад

      I honestly prefer the model of letting it be a bunch of independent servers running for the game, servers can communicate with each other over cheaters, players don't have to worry about annoying ass anti cheat, and the Linux players get to enjoy the game they paid for.

  • @deamooz9810
    @deamooz9810 2 месяца назад +7

    4:26 that would be awesome, I don't see any videos on youtube on the Beth Deck

  • @Fakyp
    @Fakyp Месяц назад +5

    This is a bit strange, valve is forcing companies to advertise about anti cheat, but steam recently hide the option to filter games by VAC

    • @AlexBlackRaven
      @AlexBlackRaven Месяц назад +6

      filtering by VAC is basically filtering by Valve's releases and source mods of them. It's basically a remnant of the days when Steam's income was mainly from Valve's own games.

  • @Pufty
    @Pufty Месяц назад +1

    0:51 Steam just gets it. There is no yelling at a wall or trying to make a statement. They just do what's right at their own pace and win anyway

  • @DarthTinderalla-qm9zw
    @DarthTinderalla-qm9zw 2 месяца назад +1

    Now imagine if Valve gives us the option to block these. Especially making it a sign up question and homepage notifications with a single click to block and an honest description of what kernal level access actually means.

  • @SketchInkRepeat
    @SketchInkRepeat 2 месяца назад +5

    Definitely want to see a video where you attempt a build of a “Bethdeck”. I own a Steamdeck but it would be really cool to make my own handheld at some point. 👏🏼

  • @Xelief
    @Xelief 2 месяца назад +4

    I am very interested in seeing you build your own "beth deck". I love that such a thing is even practical these days. This framework company is truly doing something worth supporting.

    • @Kashim_o
      @Kashim_o 2 месяца назад +3

      I checked the link to Beth deck and Beth sounds really upset right about now because framework disqualified their entry (Beth deck) into a contest for some reason.

    • @Xelief
      @Xelief 2 месяца назад

      @@Kashim_o I don't care.

    • @Kashim_o
      @Kashim_o 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Xelief okay?

  • @hazrpg
    @hazrpg 2 месяца назад +2

    Yup, you gotta build one. Would love to see that!

  • @bland9876
    @bland9876 2 месяца назад

    I want a button to disable big picture mode on the Steam Deck because when im in desktop mode theres no reason to open bug picture mode.

  • @Luso___
    @Luso___ 2 месяца назад +6

    I am totally interested in seeing a Beth Deck build

  • @lenaheide41
    @lenaheide41 2 месяца назад +1

    I'd be really interested in a BethDeck video, and especially some performance and battery life comparisons against the SteamDeck or similar. If possible, it would also be interesting to see what can be done with adjustments similar to cpu-autofreq for laptops, since my guess would be that the BethDeck is higher performance but worse battery life, if something could be done on the software level to adjust that, since afaik I know you can't undervolt or anything from the BIOS. Noise and ergonomics would also be interesting to compare.

  • @noah2570lol
    @noah2570lol Месяц назад

    2:37 ''why not like that smash button'' 😂

  • @AndrewMalovrh
    @AndrewMalovrh 2 месяца назад +1

    I want to see this Beth deck. Well, I don't suspect I'll be building anything like that anytime soon. I think it'd be a great way to see just what else is out there.
    And finding ways to be able to upgrade the deck when it starts waning in power and be able to upgrade the board is very appealing.

  • @tiagotiagot
    @tiagotiagot 2 месяца назад

    Can the official replacement parts for the Steam Deck be plugged into a Framework mobo? How much is missing to completely recreate the whole outside of the Deck in a functional manner, with a non-Deck mobo inside?

  • @XenHat
    @XenHat 2 месяца назад

    Nice! Very happy to see this, I've tweeted about this before!

  • @GameSlayer41781
    @GameSlayer41781 2 месяца назад +2

    Good 👍
    My steamdeck oled is arriving today 😊

  • @StrudleMaster
    @StrudleMaster 2 месяца назад

    I genuinely hope these new disclosure requirements help discourage these trojanware anticheats companies think are just okay

  • @ActionDan2857
    @ActionDan2857 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm a simple man of fine taste.. I see a Gardiner Bryant Steam and Linux news video, I watch the Gardiner Bryant Steam and Linux news video.

  • @Daniel_VolumeDown
    @Daniel_VolumeDown 2 месяца назад

    I wonder how it will work with games working on linux. I mean currently, to my knowledge, there is no anti-cheat that works on kernel level on linux on steam, but will the games that officially support linux via proton show 2 anti-cheat modes (kernel level on windows and non-kernel-level on linux)?

  • @Laner84
    @Laner84 2 месяца назад

    woohoo you listened ! "Like that smash button " glad it's back ! great video as always and I'm glad steam is about the anti cheat being upfront

  • @Sedokun
    @Sedokun Месяц назад

    Kernel mode anticheat is a backdoor. Everyone remembers the CrowdStrike?

  • @Derpymech
    @Derpymech 2 месяца назад

    Really curious when the steam os ally buttons will be coming!

  • @inputoutput1126
    @inputoutput1126 Месяц назад

    "like that smash button" absolutely threw me

  • @CarlFreeman
    @CarlFreeman 2 месяца назад +2

    Please build one and show the video here!

  • @wingedpanther73
    @wingedpanther73 Месяц назад

    When game makers find out we don't WANT anti-cheat, maybe it will finally go away.

  • @spiritmacardi9300
    @spiritmacardi9300 2 месяца назад

    Next we need a Steam option you can select to have you be notified when DRM is removed from a game.

  • @darknetworld
    @darknetworld 2 месяца назад

    There should be Anti-Cheat check list. example kernel level, always online, it start game with it and stop when the game stop playing, spy on ram memory, check for input, check for internet listen hack tool, update check, is embbed to game or out side the game. does it required permission for admin access, does it required an account, does it need to connect to internet, does need to disable apps, does it log user input?, does it required access to browsers, list go on...

  • @EternalRecurrence88
    @EternalRecurrence88 2 месяца назад

    I thought you was saying Valve was implementing its own Anti Cheat hahaha. I always figured Valve to be the type of guys to be creating the game “trainers” back in the day.

  • @EZchairchillen
    @EZchairchillen Месяц назад

    Yes, you should build the beth deck! Sounds like an awesome video

  • @5mattcolour
    @5mattcolour 2 месяца назад

    Hell yeah I’d like to see you build one of those.

  • @Vonliktenstien
    @Vonliktenstien 2 месяца назад +3

    Finally caved and got Alan Wake 2 and it's DLC's on Epic since it's 50 percent off right now. I don't think it's ever coming to Steam since Epic publishes it but I'll double dip if it ever does just like I did with Control

  • @bunnybreaker
    @bunnybreaker 2 месяца назад

    The Outer Wilds actually scared me away from playing it some years ago. I've barely touched any of the content. 10/10 would recommend ☠️👍🏽

  • @savvygadgetz
    @savvygadgetz 2 месяца назад

    Loving the concept of the Beth Deck lets hope we see more like this.

  • @alicecantsleeep
    @alicecantsleeep 2 месяца назад

    TBH i've been considering this since day 1 of the deck. The mobo is TINY and its screaming for modded decks. But the framework mobo, hmmmm thats an interesting options. Especially because the other project I've been considering in tandem is a handbuilt laptop based on framework. Last week I thought of 3d printing the entire shell and using the laptop model from like cyberpunk or helldivers. Now if I can find a reasonably small CRT i swear imma make a 90s themed steam deck that may or may not run on literal steam.

  • @MGCoin333
    @MGCoin333 2 месяца назад

    The Beth deck isn't recommending using speakers tho?

  • @LordChankaXKhan
    @LordChankaXKhan 2 месяца назад

    Would be nice if they just found a way to let us play those Anti Cheat Games

  • @usb6000
    @usb6000 2 месяца назад

    No joke framework should be contacting this person and getting some official going. These handheld gaming PCs are here to stay.

  • @helpfulhappychappy
    @helpfulhappychappy 2 месяца назад

    Please build and test the "Beth Deck". Would love to see this and how it performs....... And then possibly build one myself 😁

  • @Jokerwolf666
    @Jokerwolf666 2 месяца назад +1

    Build the Beth Deck. I am curious about the performance.

  • @Yami_Industries
    @Yami_Industries 2 месяца назад

    Well I seen changes to steam UI especially in big picture mode in both vr and desktop modes 😂

  • @DarksurfX
    @DarksurfX 2 месяца назад

    Man the Beth Deck looks amazing. Lots of potential!

  • @homework8969
    @homework8969 Месяц назад

    “Why not like that smash button!” -Bryant 2024

  • @thelaughingmanofficial
    @thelaughingmanofficial 2 месяца назад

    I hope they're serious about requiring it's removal. Kernel-level anything is bad.

  • @ZaberfangX
    @ZaberfangX 2 месяца назад

    ones valve gets gamescope working well for alot nvidia user steam os for everyone and maybe a console if people don't want to build one them self? or can be just nothing just someone they wanted to do on their list

  • @JonnieWu817
    @JonnieWu817 2 месяца назад

    and here i was thinking fedora was a hat lol.

  • @doomguy979
    @doomguy979 2 месяца назад

    Why valve does not just let the accses to kernel and slove anti cheat ?

    • @gardiner_bryant
      @gardiner_bryant  2 месяца назад +3

      The thing is, all major anti-cheat vendors already have Linux versions that works just as well as the Windows version does. The problem is that game developers don't want to enable anti-cheat on Linux for whatever reason.
      They claim that the Linux market is too small (it's not. We're larger than macOS users).
      They claim that it's because Linux anticheat software isn't strong enough (which is funny because Android is Linux and Fortnite works just fine on Android).
      They claim that it's because Linux isn't as secure as Windows (which... nah. That's just BS).
      Really, what's happening is most online multiplayer games don't make enough money to justify the (perceived) added costs of supporting Linux.

    • @logicalfundy
      @logicalfundy 2 месяца назад

      Valve doesn't control the kernel.

    • @doomguy979
      @doomguy979 2 месяца назад

      @@gardiner_bryant yes i can play fortnite on my rooted xiaomi phone

    • @doomguy979
      @doomguy979 2 месяца назад

      @@gardiner_bryant but anticheat very weird like you said some games work the divison/ac unity/halo works but watch dogs 2/gta 5(before the latest update its works but now its broken) i dont understand why game companies wanna brick ther games on steam deck they gain money after all i never buy pc games before the steam deck

  • @StiffAftermath
    @StiffAftermath 2 месяца назад +1

    Ak! I cant find that "smash" button...❤

  • @KniteDad
    @KniteDad 2 месяца назад

    Will Bazzite work on an Alienware laptop running a 4090?

  • @cyberbillp
    @cyberbillp 2 месяца назад

    I would imagine that Steam is eye-balling a complete desk top release. If Mint can do it, Steam can too. I can even see you plugging in a steam deck and cloning the OS to a PC.

  • @unconnectedbedna
    @unconnectedbedna 2 месяца назад

    Bryant, I have to ask: Is this your favorite kind of video to make? You are always so hyped in the intro! ❤
    But I thought we all agreed that humble is not good any more and should probably not be supported...

    • @Xelief
      @Xelief 2 месяца назад

      Bread and butter of his channel these days for sure

  • @doomguy979
    @doomguy979 2 месяца назад

    New steam os update horrible i cant update after reimage my device brick

  • @milohoffman274
    @milohoffman274 2 месяца назад +1

    Valve needs to create their own anti-cheat that works on all platforms, and require any games sold on Steam to use it and not any solution of their own.

    • @sylvershadow1247
      @sylvershadow1247 2 месяца назад +3

      That could lead to a lawsuit

    • @gardiner_bryant
      @gardiner_bryant  2 месяца назад +9

      All major anticheat vendors already work on Linux. It's the developers who choose not to support Linux in their games.

    • @logicalfundy
      @logicalfundy 2 месяца назад +1

      They do have their own anti-cheat: VAC. But large publishers don't think it's good enough, and to be fair - VAC does need a lot of work to be more effective.

    • @KillFrenzy96
      @KillFrenzy96 2 месяца назад +2

      I don't quite agree with Valve requiring and monopolizing anti-cheat on all games.
      Many single player games and even some multiplayer co-op games are better off without anti-cheat, especially for the sake of modding.
      Additionally, if Valve is the sole creator of anti-cheat, excessive complacency would result in an influx of cheaters and the demise of competitive multiplayer gaming.

    • @Underqualified_Gunman
      @Underqualified_Gunman Месяц назад

      Valve only has 300 people, they are too busy working on steam, future hardware, the hlx thing, deadlock, cs2, dota 2, and theoerticclly tf2.

  • @Norco666
    @Norco666 2 месяца назад

    alote off players still play with vac ban on record! only in valve exist this sheet vac ban is not permanent

  • @JuanPerez-jg1qk
    @JuanPerez-jg1qk Месяц назад

    only way in my solution is masking all linux users as windows 11 os by kernel translation layer...even its gonna give wrong steam charts stats that will favorite windows number more but important thing it works as same way with dlss mods with fsr3 masking amd and intel and nvidia RTX30 as 4090 gpu's .Is same method what vkd3d devs to translate dx12 library ...it gonna make servers think your running a legit windows 11 while your not

  • @drmarmal8
    @drmarmal8 2 месяца назад +2

    lmao "like that smash button"

  • @guxtavo14
    @guxtavo14 2 месяца назад

    "Help growing your Library" but also make you spend money on a game that you'll likely not play. Just going over your backlog or just playing retro games is better than spending money.

  • @DirasyajX
    @DirasyajX 2 месяца назад

    Why not mention that the beth deck has a problem with the battery overheating?

  • @SireDragonChester
    @SireDragonChester 2 месяца назад +1

    Steam os for desktop PCs sooon please valve.

  • @MatthewWilliamsX
    @MatthewWilliamsX 2 месяца назад

    5:47 Strongbad!!

  • @bogo2
    @bogo2 Месяц назад

    Like that smash button is something I haven't heard before xd

  • @davidbudzinski-o5m
    @davidbudzinski-o5m 2 месяца назад

    I like the anti cheat info for steam deck. So we Will not buy the games that are not supported on the deck 😀😀

  • @ustrucx
    @ustrucx 2 месяца назад

    All I need to know from anti-cheat bs is: Can I play offline? If I can't I am not buying and that is that.

  • @csporto23
    @csporto23 2 месяца назад +1

    Man I really wanted the anti cheat news to be about them figuring a resolve for linux/steamos. Apex just removed them from linux all together cause of anti cheat issues

  • @NFvidoJagg2
    @NFvidoJagg2 2 месяца назад

    So... We're not going to talk about Apex kicking out Linux users "To fight Cheaters"?

  • @Vers1.0
    @Vers1.0 Месяц назад

    If you can't trust kernal level cheats, why should we trust kernel level anticheats?

  • @rincasifutsume
    @rincasifutsume 2 месяца назад

    4:43 haven't of that phrase in a while like since better call saul lmao

  • @Ethorbit
    @Ethorbit 2 месяца назад

    Good. Now I know which games to avoid as they contain anti-gaming software

  • @GamingWithNeytiri
    @GamingWithNeytiri 2 месяца назад

    WHAT ON EARTH do those words mean ???

  • @GvlvxyMilk
    @GvlvxyMilk 2 месяца назад

    Destiny 2 steam deck support incoming ?

  • @Prexry
    @Prexry Месяц назад

    "Like that smash button"???

  • @Nordin-f1q
    @Nordin-f1q 2 месяца назад

    i would like to see you build that beth deck

  • @dragonball3166
    @dragonball3166 2 месяца назад

    How can anyone cheat on valve games ?

  • @celdaemon
    @celdaemon Месяц назад

    Oh hell yeah! Go steam!

  • @sysdrum
    @sysdrum 2 месяца назад

    It awesome when you do a shoutout your members.
    ----
    I will never use Patreon.

  • @ricky_pigeon
    @ricky_pigeon 2 месяца назад +1

    This channel is always like a days to a week behind on news. I heard about the anti cheat thing on steam stores a week ago.
    I used to like content on this channel but now its just steam deck stuff thats out of date by a few days because the other channels have already spoken about it.
    I'm not trying to be rude i'm not sure how else to give criticism. Like at the end of the video you're reading patch notes from 5 days ago when everyone else has already put that out there on the day.

  • @TechnoMinded-qp5in
    @TechnoMinded-qp5in 2 месяца назад

    If Valve discontinues Windows 10 Steam gaming I'm probably gonna have to switch to Linux what I hate is how you can play Steam games on a discontinued Linux based Operating System but gaming on Windows End of Life isn't allowed at this point security patches aren't good enough for security hackers do what they want when they want. What I wanna see is SOMEHOW Windows 10 still being allowed to play Steam games after End of Life according to rumors everything will still work you just won't get security updates. Hear me out before you go pro cybersecurity if these security updates were so safe why do hackers keep finding a way to bypass them? This shows how incompetent and non trust worthy security updates actually are if you tell me Linux can harden their security but Windows can't I don't see a future for Microsoft and Valve and everyone else should just support Linux or don't do business at all.

  • @MadNekUA
    @MadNekUA 2 месяца назад +2

    With release of deck 2 or maybe new more regular console form factor product, i hope VALVE will make huge move and require full(offline and online) native/proton linux support to publish game on steam

    • @logicalfundy
      @logicalfundy 2 месяца назад

      I doubt Valve has enough negotiation power with the largest publishers - they'd just pull their games from Steam and require you to use their launchers.

  • @superJK92
    @superJK92 2 месяца назад

    I'm surprised nobody has managed to make a linux compatible Kernel-level Anti-cheat (To be fair it might be 100% impossible, or probably 99% impossible as there is almost nothing that is impossible, and plus Valve could always fork the linux kernel and make it work with Kernel-level Anti-cheat)

    • @pessoaanonima6345
      @pessoaanonima6345 2 месяца назад +1

      I don't think they are allowed to include a binary blob like an anticheat in the linux kernel

    • @gardiner_bryant
      @gardiner_bryant  2 месяца назад +1

      All major anticheat vendors have a Linux build of their software. It's not anticheat that's the issue, it's the game developers.

    • @endermaster08
      @endermaster08 2 месяца назад

      @@gardiner_bryant Most Anti-cheats that run on linux (Natively and through proton) are not kernel level.

    • @SussyBaka-nx4ge
      @SussyBaka-nx4ge 2 месяца назад

      ​@@gardiner_bryantThe Linux builds of EAC, etc... only have user level anticheat, though.

    • @insu_na
      @insu_na 2 месяца назад +2

      @@SussyBaka-nx4ge Which is more than what's needed. Serverside anticheat is the only reliable anticheat, but it takes effort to implement because the requirements are different for each game, while with clientside anticheat you can just copy&paste the same software that does generic stuff like memory scanning and process scanning and is easily fooled regardless

  • @SimpleTakes0
    @SimpleTakes0 2 месяца назад

    Valve ftw sense the beginning.

  • @amber1225
    @amber1225 2 месяца назад

    Valve doing something for the community!? LOL WHAT A JOKE

  • @Aoitori365
    @Aoitori365 2 месяца назад

    gabe is linux jesus

  • @leonx3882
    @leonx3882 2 месяца назад

    But when will they add steam deck wake up on lcd with Bluetooth controllers?? 😭😭

    • @gardiner_bryant
      @gardiner_bryant  2 месяца назад

      They can't. They had to update the Bluetooth device in the OLED too make that happen.

    • @leonx3882
      @leonx3882 2 месяца назад

      @gardiner_bryant so that's just never happening for the LCD then??

    • @gardiner_bryant
      @gardiner_bryant  2 месяца назад

      Never

    • @leonx3882
      @leonx3882 2 месяца назад

      @@gardiner_bryant *sigh* that's a shame :/

  • @GamingWithNeytiri
    @GamingWithNeytiri 2 месяца назад

    a client side, kernel code anti-cheat..
    uhh WHAT ??????

    • @gardiner_bryant
      @gardiner_bryant  2 месяца назад +1

      Client side: meaning the anti-cheat runs on the players system
      Kernel mode: meaning the anti-cheat works like a virus/malware and gets full access to your computer

    • @GamingWithNeytiri
      @GamingWithNeytiri 2 месяца назад

      @gardiner_bryant but what is an anti-cheat?

    • @gardiner_bryant
      @gardiner_bryant  2 месяца назад

      Anti-cheat is software that monitors system processes to make sure you're not using cheat applications or hacks whole playing online games

  • @HellGatyr
    @HellGatyr 2 месяца назад

    anti cheat my ass
    apex legend using this anti cheat and WHAT SHOCKING is this anti cheat actually the main problem software, cheater can inject cheat to anyone in game live
    it's happen to professional scene apex legend match where genburten have aim bot installed during match