The elitists will try to shame you for using the installer. Please ignore them. You don't need to have linux completely figured out before you even try it. You can learn as you go. When you come across a problem then look it up. Personally I have a separate drive for Arch. When you're ready to make the full switch it'll be easier
the elitists don't even understand manual installation, they just waste time doing it step by step from a wiki. Arch isn't harder than any other distro, other than the fact it breaks 20x as often as any other distro and you have to chroot into it and save it, lmao
@@xU9aC6jQ5kR2zU0x I've been linux-only for 2 years and it was really easy for me to switch. Never booted windows so I eventually just removed it a long time ago
I'll be honest, in my time with Linux I've almost never seen these "elitists" people were fearing about, so people MIGHT be exaggerating their presence in the community. That being said, I absolutely agree! Installing Arch is as easy as Mutahar showed in this video, and even if you manually install, it's just these steps but you're typing the commands yourself! And if this is the "harder" version of Linux, imagine how easier it is to install "beginner friendly" ones like Mint. Seriously, people. Go ahead, try Linux. The community is nothing to be afraid of.
1)Heavy resource usage. 2)60+ gb of storage for a operating system like 11. 3)unwanted bloatware and services running in the background. 4)data collection(stealing). 5)privacy violation. 6) forced auto updates which can't be turned off. Make sure to mention more things.
When Win 10 ends next year, I'm done with it. I already tried a test run of Mint on my box and it works fine. I'm tired of MS telling me what I'm going to do with my computer.
That's nice, I heard from someone that they had moderate expectations that people would actually switch with the death of 10, hardware support incompatibility is a nice factor for our mission
@@MrBelles104 MS is making it easy with all the intrusive junk they force on you. I ran Windows update last night and it shoved Copilot onto my box yet again. They have no concept of the word NO. The lead up to Win 10 end gives me time to do my research to see what I need to adapt. Win for me lose for MS. I already switched to LibreOffice years ago, no regrets.
Holy shit can we talk about how discord finally has audio screensharing on linux??? That's like a massive thing imo. Completely flew under my radar lol
@MrBelles104 once you stop playing them you start to notice how shit those games actually are and how predatory and shady some of them are. giving up on playing live service addicting games is one of the best things you can do.
My mom use Linux Mint for about 8 years and never had any issues. She is super non-technical type, just edit documents, browsing web or watch a movie. But she did not need me to help with anything in Mint. I just updated the system after about 7 years cause I wanted to.
Yeah most users are like that. They need an OS that has a text editor and an email client and a web browser. However it's hard to get them used to using something like Mint even though it looks exactly the same as Windows. Idk why that is, but ive gotten calls from relatives telling me Facebook or an app on their phone was "broken" and I had to "fix it" because the company decided to change some colours and font sizes around. Same layout. Changed the looks a tiny bit. "It's broken."
Yeah linux is good for either "bootstrapper for browser and text editor" types (Steam is also online nowadays) or "neurotically learns literally everything (unfortunatefully for me I have a couple fo programs that I'm having trouble getting off windows from so wish me luch T_T)
My 78 year old father needed tech support from me every few months on windows due to viruses or other issues. 8 years ago I forced him on mint. After 2 weeks of getting used to things he started boasting to his friends how it "just works" and "it's free, can you believe it!?". To this day he's still running the same hardware and distro and he loves it.
My sister literally has learning disabilities from a head injury. I put her on Ubuntu, no more slow laptop, no more viruses, no more computer problems for years. I completely disagree with the notion that Linux isn't normie ready, it is.
as a windows user too, I tried linux and tbh I like it a lot, but I am still going to use Windows. Like not as a daily driver, but more as a some days driver some other days is Debian
@@Mochimash420i used Linux for 6 months. Recently switched back to Windows, and the only issue I have with Linux is the poor sound quality. Like FU%K me is it horrid compared to windows
It's good to hear progress is being made with games. I'm still using windows and not by choice. I'm pretty computer illiterate and scared to try Linux. Seems like there might be light at the end of the tunnel now though. Hopefully I get the courage to switch before they force us into windows 11. Thank you for the update.
Linux Mint is very user friendly with Ubuntu as a close second. While running programs that you download can be slightly annoying, anything you install from the repos through the software store will run out of the box. When you do switch, start with Mint.
I second Ubuntu, Mint, or a direct relative as a good starting point to use. Many people either install Linux as a second operating system or install it on an old computer, but if you're really worried, it is possible to buy a computer with Linux installed from the factory. System76 is a brand I've bought from in the past.
Just stay far away from asking the community if you get stuck on something. There’s no one linux forums hate more than a user who needs help getting started. you’ll just get people telling you that you aren’t smart enough and to go back to windows. They’ll also claim that this is only a problem in whatever forum you encountered it on and you just need to go somewhere else that _totally_ doesn’t have the same culture problem, or that they’re right to exclude people who need help, or that it must be your fault for not asking properly somehow. They’ll pop up to reply to this comment without realizing they’re the proof in the poop pudding, too, which is funny 100% of the time.
Owning a steamdeck certainly made me realize linux was fine for gaming, so i bought a separate ssd and installed linux mint as a dual boot and left my win10 install alone, so my windows is unchanged. That was about 6 months ago, the reality is that now i just dont use windows at all, like not at all, but its still there if ever i wanted to go use it. Every game ive thrown at linux runs perfectly, the only tinkering ive had to do is just choosing which proton version to use, which is just a right click menu on steam. Why did i do this, simply because i will not move to win11, and m$ is going to stop supporting win10. Im happy i decided to "just see" what linux was like, now im staying.
will windows get yahoomailed lmao I still keep my cringey ass yahoo mail because most of my subscriptions are there and I haven't worked up the patience and motivation to move them all to my other email
And a lot of the software people that work for a living need don't exist on your computer and nobody with any self respect is going to use stuff like Gimp instead.
Linux marketshare by year according to internet statistics: 2009: 0.69% 2010: 0.78% 2011: 0.79% 2012: 0.85% 2013: 1.1% 2014: 1.33% 2015: 1.63% 2016: 1.49% 2017: 1.64% 2018: 1.59% 2019: 1.68% 2020: 1.76% 2021: 2.2% 2022: 2.55% 2023: 3.01% 2024: 4.11% Other than dips in 2016 and 2018, it's been steady growth year over year.
No they won’t be and a lot of people don’t realize is that the US/Canadian government only have their companies interest at heart. Why do you think there’s so much spyware when the patriot act came out? It doesn’t stop at the OS, it’s internet too. Everything you are connected to. So.. it’s more or less which person gets the most and it’s always Microsoft.
Your "installing hardest operating system" video helped me a lot. I've installed arch on my laptop and old PC using it as a guide. Thanks for doing it.
@@MangoPanic Because a large portion of people started using PCs past Windows 95, and let's be real: Windows used to do a lot of things for their users and still does. So unless you needed something really out of the norm, chances were all you ever did was updating drivers and that was it. But if you are old enough to remember the good old DOS times? If you had to learn a lot of actual commands and attributes to make said commands work as you wanted them to? Yeah, installing Linux is just like a path through memory lane, and it makes you wonder why people think it's hard. Well... it was if you never had to use the command prompt in your Windows life 😉
Linux is neat and all, and this channel got me into it... But Linux overtaking windows is impossible unless a Linux distribution comes out that is as normie friendly as actual Windows. Windows is so popular because their users can go their entire lives without ever actually entering a command window or a power shell.
Linux Mint is as "normie friendly as actual Windows". I recommend it to all my friends who are interested in trying or switching to Linux. It's the easiest to get started using. The Cinnamon version is very visually similar to Windows (task bar on the bottom, Start Menu type button on the lower left, time and notifications on the lower right, icons on the desktop, etc.
I've really been thinking about switching to Linux since the announcement of Windows 10 no longer being supported by the tail end of next year and with what I've seen, I think the next time I upgrade my PC is when I'll make the switch over. As someone that hasn't gotten into the Linux space before, aside from Raspberry Pi projects, I'm still a little apprehensive about it, but I'd be willing to try it now that things like Bazzite make it look a lot easier.
Just use a separate drive and unplug your Windows drive. Install Linux fresh like it is the only thing on the PC. This way Windows can't get accidentally erased and if you decide you want to go back, just unplug the Linux drive and plug the Windows drive back in and boot normally.
@@crimson-foxtwitch2581 oh... yeah judgement day. PLEASE let these words be true I do NOT WANT to be forced to use WinSlop11 It's not like my PC even CAN downgrade to Win11 (I do not have the spyware chip
Valve making an awesome handheld and encouraging ports to it is resulting in a lot of titles get native releases on Linux, and I have no doubt that's entirely intentional. They've been diligently and single-handedly leading the charge to free gamers from Microsoft for *years*, ever since Windows 8 era at least when Gabe N first talked about doing so. Their herculean efforts are paying off, and the Linux desktop is flourishing in ways that really surprise me (as someone who's used it professionally on both client and server for >10 years).
GabeN should finally drop Steam OS for ALL PCs and not just keeping the darn thing Steam Deck exclusive >_> I swear they already dropped the ball when Win8.1 expired and the will totally miss this opportunity again to catch up people who don't wanna continue with Win11 but will do anyway simply because Valve won't get anything done.
@@KRAFTWERK2K6They probably will since it will help them sell more steam decks and possibly steam boxes in the future. But MSFT will never port the Xbox PC or PC gamepass to linux. Especially games like COD and Warzone
@@Freddisred Sony already owns the Bloodborne IP and they're not doing anything with it. Owning FromSoftware isn't going to change anything on that matter.
Why? Sony runs their own version of BSD. BSD and Linux both use a standard called "POSIX" (same with Mac btw). So it's easy to work with both operating system for ports of software. The issue has always been Microsoft using their own proprietary standards and forcing away the choice with its monopolistic market share. There is a reason why valve is doing all this stuff with Linux to hedge their business. Sony could easily port to Linux/Steam.
Technically they're trying to acquire the parent company of FromSoftware. They would get From in thst deal, but it's not as simple as tha.t they'd be absorbing a lot more than From. It'll probably happen. The world is run by gross oligopolies
I put manjaro on my old gaming laptop recently and I'm kind of surprised at how basically everything just... works. And better than windows did. My windows 10 install was laggy and choppy and manjaro just works and all the hardware is supported.
setup dual boot with Kubuntu 8 years ago. my expectation was that I'll have to boot into windows due to technical issues or learning curve on a daily basis. did never boot into windows again.
I know right! Thanks to trackpad gestures (thanks, Gnome! because of whom, KDE added them too), basically all I want is here, except kinetic scrolling. No more windows garbage. I am always excited for updates on linux! I'm like "what's updates do we have now!" LDAC works *out of the box*! HDR is still in its infancy, but it's seeing good progress too. nvidia is catching onto the linux driver train too, so that's nice. I really hope more security features make it sooner than later because you can start to expect bad actors targeting linux too. The techie in me appreciates the features in the windows kernel, especially the security side of things. Flatpak is nice but it is not a good sandbox from a security pov. It's good as a unified packaging solution. Overall optimistic for the future of linux.
I said this before and I'll keep to it. Once Win 10 is done, I'm done with windows. I'll switch to Linux and I expect we'll see some kind of a bump in Linux users at that time. One problem everyone will face is that Windows dumbed down everything for so long that using Linux will be a pretty painful learning experience. Great advice to try out in VM first. I hope Muta will make another in-depth guide when that time comes. I can figure out how to set up linux but there are so many options etc. that I have no idea what they mean (but I might want to change them for whatever reason) and I'd just choose default. Also, I'm not a fanboy (I don't support monopolies) but Valve makes it really hard to dislike them with everything they do for gamers. They are one of very, very few companies that know their userbase or at the very least know how not to shaft it for money in a way that will bite them back. I respect that simply because we live in a world where that approach is so, SO much better than the approach all other companies take, aka taking a fat one on the end user just to have a few more pennies. Steam is second only to GOG but for very different reasons.
I'm a systems administrator in a library. I had to replace a couple of old computers earlier this year. They both have Windows 10 on them, and their hardware can't do Windows 11. No problem...coming up next fall, I'll dump it in favor of Linux. If Microsoft wants to shoot themselves in the foot THAT badly...well, not my problem. LONG LIVE LINUX!
I saw that announcement and I'm so gonna be part of the state to switch. I wanted to get a steam deck to try Linux but honestly I've been debating to try Linux on my desktop because of these videos
probably. iirc mutarhar's real job is in IT. his hobby is content creation and gaming and tinkering with linux. literally 90% of his life in on the computer 😂
The last major barrier in gaming support revolves around a select few major game studios checking a damn checkbox, which only shows how broken the philosophy of closed source is.
Of course it's broken, Microsoft did get sued for anti-competitive practices and frankly it's common in gaming, exclusives for example, as a practice is to buy your way to fucking over your competition. Of course game developers owned by companies with a serious stake in the PC market choose not to make their games available for an open source platform, because they can't monetize it. Alot of ways they make money off of cross polination between games only being available on Windows, to sell Windows as the only plausible platform for gaming. Corpo greed is as corpo greed does. The fact that Linux might get to a proportional size of the market that they have to take it serious, is great. Consumers do actually some power over the market, and the corpos hate it. However, there is also the problem of incompatible anti-cheat software that doesn't work on Linux, which takes some of the fortnites out of the equation.
What is broken about the philosophy? They simply don't bother supporting platforms 97% don't use and why should they just because you think they should?
@@omega1231 What are you talking about? 🤦🏼♂ Game developers obviously can monetize their games on LInux just like on Windows, it makes no difference to them. The reason they are not on Linux is that nobody except a few nerds is using it.
@@cyberfunk3793 Broken as in, the fate of software rests in the hands of a few people, it's never been good for end users, which is why Flash Player was superseeded by the open HTML5, and quickly died afterwards, as an example.
I think one day, AI will advance enough until the hype is definitely deserved. But that day is not today. Microsoft needs to chill with their crummy Copilot project. It’s not really all that.
@@steven1671 AI will advance and we'll just be accustomed to it. It'll be a part of normal life, I have a hard time believing lots of people will be excited about it. The only people who care now are corpos and tech bros, the only people who will care in 10 years are corpos and tech bros Until it kills us anyway
@@mgord9518 Strongly disagree, there is a growing trend of morons who use GPTs for their way of life and think it's functional even with how bad it currently is, and I'm not talking about techy people.
I agree, BUT...your average pc user thinks remembering their own email password is too much effort. Learning Linux requires more than the common TicTok / YT short level of attention span.
>Be me in middle school >decided to use linux cuz all the cool kid used it >not a single tutorial >even kids in my class refuse to help me out >"learn to read" "go read the documentation" they said >community isnt much help either, giving some abstract solution, told me to just read documentation, etc >decided that linux's not worth the effort >ffw 5-7 years later >still using windows, somehow managed to bypass all the annoying stuff in it, and get all my job done in an instance >everyone's suddenly released how to use linux videos >even my classmate's suddenly recomending linux >"here's an easy to use distros" "ill even teach you how yo use it" they said >people are getting nicer in linux now. Tho some part of the community are the same When i tryna install linux back then no one's betting an eye. But now that ive been comfortable with windows everyone's asking me to use linux now?
I haven’t had issues with Proton/Wine compatibility stuff. HOWEVER, if you’re new and have your games on a separate drive, keep in mind that Proton and Wine seem to be a lot more stable if the games are installed on an ext4 partitioned drive. If your system is windows, then your drives are more than likely ntfs partitioned. So if you’re new to Linux gaming and are getting weird issues with compatibility even with Proton or Wine, then make sure the drive with your games is ext4 and not ntfs. Just be aware that would require a reformat, which means you will lose any data on the drive, so back it up.
@ yeah, what I was talking about is setups where there’s multiple drives on the same computer. Let’s say you have windows on drive 1 and your games on drive 2. If you then replace windows with Linux, drive 2 will still be ntfs, so if you try to launch a game with Wine from drive 2, it causes problems.
I got some issues with my gaming ssd (NTFS). The first problem is file ownership, Wine/Proton will only work if the little windows folder used to run the game (called prefix) is owned by you (the user running the game), second drives my be mounted by the running user, or may be mounted by root, giving an access error. The second issue is that NTFS doesn't allow ':' on file names, breaking the proton prefixes shortly after creating them. Formatting wasn't an option because my sisters uses the PC as well, so I "fixed" it by redirecting the prefixes to the Linux drive, and changing those files permissions so it can work
I tried to use Linux some weeks ago. Did like it... for a couple of days. I tried Mint and Fedora, but find out that pretty much constantly I was investing a TON of time trying to make something work that on Windows would took me just a few clicks. Even worse if your english is not on point as the majority of the information you need is in this language.
I will say if you don't have the time or energy/effort to do that sort of thing then it's completely understandable, especially given how the language barrier does create a very large inaccessibility problem. I will say though, for someone who was a Windows user for such a long time, I did figure it out and I touch the command prompt very rarely now, but yeah Windows just has the edge because most applications that are built on PC has Windows in mind, so of course it just works. I hope people and well-meaning companies see this growth and develop things specifically for Linux in a straightforward manner so that even my grandma can use the OS. The reality is the OS is superior to Windows in a lot of ways, but people are totally stuck in the Windows ecosystem because it still has the ease of use edge. That is something that, above everything else, must be taken into consideration when making the switch, up until something is done about it.
@@MonkeSle I too hope the same thing. Even though I had a lot of problems I could see the appeal, my pc in general was running better, non-native games didn't run properly for me, but the native ones... holy moly, that was another story entirely. I do believe in the huge potential of Linux, and hope it reaches a point where as you said, anyone can use it without complications.
in the beginning as you're learning the terminal may be necessary if you're trying to do certain things, but as you learn the system, it should be less necessary over time
My point exactly: you tried it for a couple of DAYS. How much time did you have to invest before you learned Windows properly and figured out how things could be just done with a few clicks? And how important was the stuff you needed to do actually? Or was it just something you got really used to do in a certain way, so you didn't even look at how it was "normally" done under Linux? Not judging, it's just something I see happening a lot of the time.
> Even worse if your english is not on point as the majority of the information you need is in this language. To be honest, that's true with almost all fields. English is the lingua franca of the modern world and a lot of science and development happens purely in it. Translations to local languages tend to be somewhat rare, less detailed, and often 30 years out of date. No matter the field.
I had no idea we were getting a mod manager for Linux. And it currently supports Cyberpunk 2077, Stardew Valley, and Baldur's Gate 3. Every now and then I'll pop into a Muta video and learn about something I'm totally gonna waste hours experimenting with lmao.
Finally, even though it's fairly easily done manually (as it is on Windows, the problem might be the file location as it's buried in compatibility folders) larger mod packs was and is a pain to install on Linux.
yesterday i modded fallout 4 according to the mignight ride guide, once you get the wine / prefix thing, it gets pretty easy to do things. Just install Mod Organizer 2 into your wine prefix, it works flawlessly
I made my second PC into a ProxMox testrig as a side project and tried all the Linux distros that seemed interesting to me on it. I think I will go with Fedora for my main rig somwhere down the line. But I can see why office people or gamers wouldn´t switch just like that. You have to completely rethink how you interact with your OS, where stuff is, how it gets saved and updated, you have to port over all your databases and programs, be it your browser files, your password managers, etc. You have to adjust all your workflows and that requires, that you´re already somewhat tech savy on Windows in the first place. I think Linux is a great choice for people who know nothing about PCs or for people that already came from IT in the first place. For everyone else it´s just hella confusing and time consuming to do the switch for good, so they need a good reason and clear instructions on how to do it.
I've been primarily gaming on a MacBook for the last 10 years, I know, I'm the only one. This is mostly down to how much I have been burned by Windows OS and how many problems I've encountered on it that shouldn't happen, like at all. Seeing the advancements in gaming on Linux has been amazing and seeing Apple take a serious swing at gaming for macs is also interesting. I do hope that things continue in this way because it's just good all around. I'm just surprised at how much Microsoft has kinda shot themselves in the foot over the last couple of months and how much I don't want to use Windows 11 more now than any other Windows OS. Like I'll take Vista over Win11.
What don't you like about Windows 11? From a basic user standpoint, it is no different in functionality than Windows 10. I am typing this on my Mac, by when I updated my Windows 10 system to Windows 11 I did not have any problems or really even encounter much change is usage. I know it is fashionable to knock Windows 11, but I don't see the actually problem for people who can run it. To be fair, the usage requirements are dumb and if non-TPM hardware was supported, I don't think anyone at all would be complaining. It's not like it's Windows 8 or anything.
@@wjckc79 It's mostly from a security standpoint as that's my profession, in addition to a lot restrictions on the system making me think, "When did Microsoft start taking lessons from Apple in locking down stuff?" Also with how ham-fisted copilot and recall have been implemented.
@@maximiliangruber2796 personal preference and because I’ve never had a windows computer not have some major malfunction within the first year of owning it. The personal preference comes from the fact I’ve been using Macs since OS 9.3, note this is not OSX, I mean OS 9.3, power pc G4 OS. I will agree the Mac’s are a bit overpriced, but I’m willing to pay that for a computer that will last me more than 10 years.
Long full time time linux user (currently Linux Mint 21.3) and gamer. Under current times thanks to steam deck proton with steam I'm playing any game I want that doesn't have an Origin launcher requirement. On the exact same hardware (listed below) I get more fps on all titles I play in linux than I did in windows 10 including windows only titles running threw proton. AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, Radeon RX 6750 xt 12gb, 64gb ddr4, 2tb boot nvme ssd, 6tb WD black gaming hard drive, Linux Mint 21.3, X11 (wayland not ready yet imo).
Ive been putting off installing windows 11 LTSC on my laptop for months now but I think I am going to give Linux a try finally. I am getting so fucking sick of MS's bullshit.
Why wait to try a Linux distro ? Just buy a low cost external SSD and install Linux on it and use it from time to time alongside your current Windows. That way you'll get to acclimatize to it to see if it's something you could use full-time going forward. There's really no need to wait until ' crunch time'. If you decide that Linux isn't for you, then at least you have extra external storage for your laptop that maybe you could use to store copies of important files.
it cant run the most specific .exe Skyrim SE mods, so Linux is completely dead to me, even more so that in the near future ill be getting a VR headset and ill be needing to see such mods with another perspective
Listen, I like Linux just as much as the other guy but we need to be tactful when recommending this OS for daily driving. While Linux is very nice for specific tasks, once you want to do a wider array of actions problems may arise here and there. And for those who are tech inclined they may have easier time dealing with issues, but the average joe won't share the same experience. Once more, I love Linux, but I'll never recommend it to anyone. It has to be the type of person who's willing to tinker and learn in their personal time.
I don't know if I agree with you here. Linux imo isn't really that much harder, it's just different. If you just sit someone that has never used a PC in front of a Windows installation they'd be just as lost as if you'd put them in front of a Linux installation. If you never had any contact with Windows, I'm sure that someone could learn to use Linux just as fast as they could learn to use Windows (at least the basics stuff like installing and using software and basic configuration). I don't see why typing apt install firefox would be much harder compared to going to the website, downloading the installer and double clicking it. It's just a completely different approach that you need to get used to when coming from Windows, which does most things differently. It's hard to let go of old habits, that's why most people have problems switching to Linux. Not because it's so advanced that you need to have studied computer science to use it.
Yea, I used to be gung ho about it until I realized people don't wanna follow me down this rabbit hole. Before getting into it myself, I just wanted things to work. Heck, even though I want to play around with Slackware and CRUX (and even FreeBSD), I STILL just want things to work at times, so I want to spend time in friendlier systems without fragmenting ( so basically Ubuntu and Fedora) so I can see if I'd recommended them to others.
@@LeyaWehner It works until it doesn't, and then you have to search for a solution, you run into the issue of different answers for different kernels and distros. This is where Linux fails IMO.
Mutahar, great video. Thanks. I've played with running Linux but always (sadly) came back to windows. I run a Ryzen 9 7940 HS Mini PC and it's great. I might swpa the drives out for some spares I have and give Bazzite another go. Thanks for being the first RUclipsr taking about Linux desktops that I've heard pronounce Gnome correctly :D Cheers
Arch user btw. I've used Windows my whole life, but made the switch to Linux 3 years ago during the pandemic cus why the fuck not. Best decision of my life.
I wanted to make the switch, but school and work used windoze. I tried using Libre Office, but my documents always came out a huge mess in ms Word. I've always kind of BASHed windoze, but I will give them credit for making Excel a decent program.
I look into Linux every other year. But it always seems like a pain where you have to go back to using command prompt to do everything and have a 60% chance to brick your pc. I did use dos as a kid but I don't really want to have to do that now.
It does feel like a pain to use the command line for some solutions that are not in a GUI. The moment you know what command to use, it is better. But that is sadly the catch (for me). Getting to that moment takes time.
Ubuntu is my main OS. The only time I use the command line is when I install, update, or remove programs, but make no mistake: you can do all this graphically now.
OpenSUSE is my main OS, I only use the command line to move files around in batches - not because it is impossible to do through a GUI, but because it is faster for me to type up a nice mv glob than clicking around. And to update the system just because I like it. 60% chance to brick your pc is a stat pulled right out of someone's dirty hole, you won't be bricking your linux installation any more than you would brick your windows installation. Restoring a fail is also way easier on Linux than on Windows, thanks to snapper - your just power up your pc and select a snapshot right in the first screen, no "recovery mode", no "your computer failed" screen, nothing, just choose and bam, ready to rollback.
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man? Distros like mint do not require the terminal, at all. Please just get this myth out of here, it's holding linux back.
The problem with Anti-Cheats is not that they cannot make a proper equivalent of the Windows version for Linux, but the company making them just don't see the reason to work to make them for Linux. Some of them did released a Linux version from their anti-cheat, but they basically strip out pretty much anything low-level from them, making them almost useless. After all in the world we live in, everything is about profit. Anti-Cheats company doesn't see the need to work on something working for Linux due to the rather low market share and Game Publisher often just don't want to do any work for Linux players anyways. Just the fact that games like Counter-Strike 2 can work perfectly fine under Linux prove that fact. The more people start using Linux for Gaming, the more company might start to realized that it is not such a small market anymore and it might be worth working to make their games work fine under Linux instead of just blocking users that want to play with that system.
The problem is the negative feedback loop here - Anti-cheat doesn't support Linux -> Users stay on windows (let's assume majority of the games they play are multiplayer and/use AC that doesn't support Linux) due to the perceived inconvenience of having to switch back and forth to play those specific games -> -1 for linux gamer which continues to make AC devs seem like it'll be not worth investing in it, rinse and repeat. With the rise of the Steam Deck and Proton, I have very high hopes as we are now starting to see more movement in that general direction, but for the majority of people who just want to be able to play their favorite online video game, Windows will continue to seem like the most convenient option. I think about at least partially switching to Linux consistently but unfortunately due to certain ACs straight up hard blocking users trying to use it on Linux (Looking at you Apex Legends), I don't really have the convenience of doing that.
@@BreadtheRipper Linux has gone up 0.13% to 2% on the steam hardware survey and that is after steam deck has been out for ages. There is no movement lol
The thing thats stopping me from doing a full linux swap would have to be VR. I play a decent amount of games on it, and losing that would be not worth all the effort.
I bought a Steamdeck LCD on sale when the OLED version was released. Shortly after, my work PC broke down and I had to get a new one. I had stuck with Windows 10 for as long as I could, but with the new work PC I had no choice but to update to Windows 11... The Steamdeck proved to me that I don't need Windows and I installed Manjaro Linux on my new Work PC. I now have Manjaro on all my PCs and Microsoft is no longer welcome on the premises.
i'd honestly argue it's not that simple; linux is very straightforward for two types of people, the people who use their computer for very basic tasks (email, web browsing, watching videos, movies, listening to music), and the power users who can manage configuration and updates and whatnot. the people who'd have the hardest time with linux are the people in the middle, who are looking to do more than the basics but aren't quite power users.
Have been there, I was lucky some guy made my specific dongle work on linux on github, eventually linux detected the dongle before needing any additional install.
It's only popular because it's been the default and people (myself included) usually just go with the default. Luckily, watching Muta has encouraged me to explore other options.
Yes, ms doesn't support efi standard and access regulations and absolutely butchers it to try and make itself prioritised. Not how efi is supposed to be used the way they do it. Manually disable "fast boot" or whatever other deceptively useless name they have given it, do a "full shutdown" of windows not the fake one that isn't shutdown that it likes to do without speciffic settings, then install linux. Or just blast windows away and daily drive the better quality OS that doesn't ignore established hardware standards.
A few weeks ago I made the switch, and I know for a fact that integrations with some of my hardware is actually BETTER than it is with windows. Arch is incredible, and I cannot find a single reason why I would ever go back. I still build it manually myself, but it's sort of therapeutic in a way.
part of the appeal is doing everything yourself i find. using the installer is understandable but there's something fun about building it yourself, not unlike building a computer. AFAIK anecdotally archinstall does some things weird depending on your configuration (like if you choose to use btrfs, it just sets up the subvolumes completely wrong). but that's what i've been told and it's been like a year since then, give or take.
@@gassug2 I definitely feel like I can control the KDE bloat when I build myself. When you use the installer, it is sort of all or nothing. I know that I have better stability when I control the order of things to fit what, in my mind, makes the most sense. I think it may be the most stable computing experience I've ever had. Even games are incredible lol. I just can't believe how far things have progressed. I fully intend on devoting most of my open source contributions to the community. We will make Windows a thing of the past. Sooner than we think.
I swore that Windows 10 would be the last Windows OS since Windows has gotten REALLY bad over the years. I'm all for Linux gaming if it can get to the point where I can install the game and run it out of the box on linux.
Its soo close, yet so far... Jokes aside, most games do work with a switch enabled. Indeed its sad that there are exclusive games and specific things that needs adjusting to get a game you might like to work
Any game released in the past 5 years, Steam on Linux usually runs ootb. Any game released between 5 and 10 years ago may need a little bit of tinkering (check ProtonDB). Games released before 2010 usually need extensive configuration to work and I doubt that will change any time soon... but then again that's frequently the case on modern Windows. Connecting to a server is a bit more hit or miss. I'm still disappointed that the creator of Rust won't tick the checkbox that allows Easy Anti-Cheat players on Linux to join servers, purely because of his personal grievances.
@the1necromancer I remember when rust was fun. Ironically the gunplay recoil change made it easier for cheaters to blend in, despite being sold as the opposite. They sell a lot of copies to cheaters
Unless it starts coming pre installed, 99% of people not gonna bother. Maybe more like 5% of gamers will Now for web or app dev.. 🤧 it got better but only masochists use it
^^This. None of the Linux fanatics ever talk about this. They just say "oh its so easy to install Linux on your PC". Most non-tech savvy people will likely never be able to do it. And pretty much non computer that most people would buy comes with Linux preinstalled. And that's assuming your average PC user even knows about Linux (which pretty much no one knows about this lunix thing). When was the last time anyone saw an ad for a Linux PC on TV? When was the last time anyone saw a pre-installed Linux PC in store? I know there are online retailers that sell PCs with Linux, but no average PC user has ever heard of System76 or TuxedoPCs and no person is going out of their way to look for Linux PCs from HP or Dell or Lenovo.
I agree for ultra normies but a huge amount of PC gamers build their systems themself, likely not the majority but enough to cause a tide shift if gaming on Linux still wasn't so miserable.
@@zombieguyYou mean they build the pc which will inevitably run a WinOS because the installation is as easy as downloading it onto a flash drive and sticking it in?
I'm actually getting off of Windows. I draw the line at what i see them doing with copilot. I don't like it. I don't trust it anymore. They really screwed the pooch this time.
Built a new computer after 12 years and got linux mint running thanks to you bud. Been running CB2077 for 2 months now and its been an exciting adventure. Cheers happy thanksgiving ;)
The purpose of an operating system is to run the applications I want to run. I'm not opposed to running anything other than windows, but that something HAS to, and this isn't negotiable, it HAS to run 100% of all my applications. Ok, I'm also not opposed to having to do a little extra work to get them running, but even if ONE application functions at a suboptimal level of performance, I'm out.
Just sayin, older computers and non god tier computers spend half (if not more) of their resources on windows. The same devices we then wiped and gave ubuntu Boom all that free space even after loading the files back on and all the system that was weighed down by windows girth. If you really feel attached to your apps of tech monarch ms make a dual boot machine. You can choose whichever you want to boot with when you turn the machine on. All the apps that only play nice in windows and all the apps you would have to pay for if you tried to get them on windows (2048, and solitaire for examples, are free on linux) none of the weird Microsoft micro & macro crimes against privacy either.
Wrong! The purpose of computers is to get the job done. You don't need a specific tool (specific computer, operating system, software, brand of keyboard) to do what you need to do. Life becomes so much easier when you switch from "I need this software" to "I need a software to do this".
@@a-british-villain mate, among the things I want to do are the thousands of games I own I want to run. That is just one of the things I need my OS to do.
arch is not for new to linux users stop acting like it just works if these new to linux users get on arch they gonna quit the second something breaks (and it will break it is arch)
To be clear, I started back in the BASIC days so typing in esoteric commands is something I *USED* to do. The FRAGMENTED mess that is the LINUX Desktop environment is just silly. Even your boy Linus sez so.
Yep can confirm, been using Linux Mint for over a year now, and recently started streaming on it too. It's gotten to a state that I hope I'll never have to go back to win again. Maybe one day I'll go grow some bigger balls ( and have time lol ) and will go full Arch......
dw about it man, it's fun to use arch, but there's nothing wrong with using a debian based distro. Considering how much support flatpak has, you're not really missing out on updated software. I like using arch personally, but the great thing about linux is the way that a distro can really fit your workflow.
Every single Arch install I have had ends up borking itself after an update. Never fails, boots to a black screen and nothing will fix it. Even booting to a previous image ends up not working. I've gone to Fedora KDE and stayed here.
Microsoft should just put Windows in the Linux distro list right now. It is becoming more and more like Linux. When Microsoft look at their user base it is evident that by and large their data shows techies use windows more than any other normal user and they don’t want to loose this base. This is why windows is doing WSL, soon it “WINDOWS” will become a native LinuxOS. Give it time.
It already has… my god, most people can go into a registry and turn most things to a 0 and make a script with python to run every time you update and it’ll disable it 😂
WIsh Steam would finally release a Linux based OS for PC. Sure there's a ton of distros out there, so many it's easy to get lost and at times hard to find easy to understand solutions for issues one might run into. Steam with all their infrastructure and financial resources could be a total gamechanger bringing Linux to the average consumer.
SteamOS is not a super special Valve product, contrary to what most Windows users believe. It's literally just an atomic version (i.e. you can't change system files) of Arch Linux with the KDE Plasma desktop, and drivers to control the Steam Deck's power profiles. Having it come to PC would not really make that much of a difference from what's already available, save for being recognizable as a brand product, which I guess is the idea.
Nobara Linux is pretty cool. too, I just tested it totally in RAM with Live distro, Steam and Halls of Torment game on a i5 14400 and Nvidia GTX 1660. Nobara has Steam Deck version, too. :)
I wanna swap to linux so bad on my main computer but i use adobe software fusion 360 and others that dont work on linux just cause companies dont want to make versions of them that work on linux im not worried about games running on linux because there are "issues" but software like adobe should have a linux port but companies for some reason dont.
Their reason for not having a Linux port is typically because the cost of developing and maintaining it exceeds the revenue they predict to generate from it. Its a real Catch-22 situation: developers won’t make software compatible with Linux because there aren’t enough users, but a huge reason behind the lack of users is the lack of software compatibility. It takes companies like Valve to take a risk and get the ball rolling.
If fortnite is the only software or game you run, you might want to try dual booting. This way you can use linux for everything else and windows for windows only applications. The only hassle is rebooting each time you need said application
@@AramJonghu I have looked into dual booting my system but it’s not really worth it for one game when I play hundreds that natively support windows. As SteamOS and proton get better I may give more thought into it but it seems like every multiplayer game that use Easy Anti Cheat is only Windows compatible so I can’t really do much. The only fully exclusive Windows game I play is Fortnite but it isn’t the only one that is primarily Windows focused. I’ve looked into Prism Launcher for Minecraft and the several ways to make Vr work, it kind of is just Fortnite.
@@Buzz.co2 totally understandable! It's great to see consideration like this. Personally I play League of Legends (God forbid) and that is my main windows usecase. That works for me. Good luck with your endeavours!
Seriously? Fortnite is your deciding factor? There are so many other ways to play Fortnite. Xbox, Playstation, Switch, Cloud, Amazon Fire Stick... Since I switched to Linux, I now enjoy sitting in my living room playing games on consoles with friends and family on a comfy sofa and a large tv. It's been nice to leave my gaming chair, stretch my legs and play games on a 4k tv while sitting 10 feet away. I think I spent too much of my life sitting at a desk, 2 feet from my screen for way too long. I forgot how comfortable my living room was.
@@Buzz.co2I'm in a similar use case, didnnt stop me. I only have a 200gb windows partition for Destiny and that's it. It's not that big of a deal, it feels like launching a console or my real computer.
Honestly, I’ve been using Bazzite and had a much smoother time transitioning. Seriously anyone that wants to game on Linux I’d pick Bazzite, especially if you want things to work right out of the box
I've been using Bazzite for a week or so now, and it's the biggest piece of shit OS i've ever used, how anyone thinks this thing is good is totally beyond me
I can't switch because I'm already using linux for more than 10 years, And yes, it's is almost ready for the average user, but I still have some complains. It's better than my mac anyway
I was working with Linux every now and then since the dawn of Windows 10. But didn't actually make the full transition, because of some issues. After Microsoft dropped the ball with Recall, I finally made the (almost) full switch onto Manjaro. And due to new developments in the Linux space (such like pipewire and proton) a lot of my problems with Linux are fixed now. I am a very happy Linux user now. There's one last piece of software that keeps me from ditching windows completely. But that issue will be fixed very soon too. People seem to shit on Manjaro a lot. But so far it has been a flawless experience. I love having a semi-rolling Arch distro.
Whats the point in switching to linux? Maybe if windows starts doing some stupid shit like throwing ads randomly on our screen or take our data and sell it trough ai,but until then it feels like changing to linux is more of a hassle than a need. It makes sense that people that are into tech,programming and similar would enjoy linux but for a random dude on the internet that is just browsing the net and playing some games its just pointless.
People have been saying for a decade that MS should be worried. MS isn't worried.Why? Because most of Ms revenue doesn't come from Windows, it comes from their Cloud Services and Software Products. They still have a strong grip in the business word, especially since they offer full device management to Windows devices. Your home user isn't their demographic. But even if you look at gamers, there are still a lot of compatability issues with games, particularly with anticheat in competitive games.
My main issue with linux is the absurd usage of the commsnd line. I'm not turbo nerd enough to understand the command line, and 9/10 times you look sonething up online, it uses the command line, and it's spooky to me. I need more GUIs.
@fuehwbdb3765 As a person currently using Mint, it definitely doesn't solve the need to use a terminal. If you encounter an issue or want to do something more specific, all information online is using a terminal. While that is because commands are more consistent than GUI, it's still can be pretty annoying.
I get your point but providing a list of commands instead of a bunch of screenshots is much easier to make and use if you have an extremely basic understanding of the terminal and is much more consistent on different systems because of the different desktop environments on linux
Easy Anticheat is not only thing preventing some games to run on linux. There are others having problem too, or... causing players getting banned. Also there is a lot, and I mean A LOT of older users that have problems moving from XP to W7/10/11. Getting them on linux would be like 2nd job running 24x7 on call support.
Okay, so 7-8 minutes in- the video game you showed. Sir, explain to me why humans haven’t created games/VR that are ultra photorealistic and controlled by these modern AIs using Local/Cloud LLMs. I can’t understand Human Logics.
I never had my own pc, i was always playing on xbox from 360. Recently i started becoming so fed up with Microshart and google(youtube). So i decided to build my own pc, installed linux mint, microsoft and google will not touch my system. Im currently trying to figure out VirtualBox, to use microsoft for certain games and also autocad and riscan for work(topographic surveying,gps, and scanning). Im a complete noob that was fed up and now im learning linux. Microsoft is the best advertising for switching to Linux.
Congrats on rejecting something you started to hate! I've seen so many people just accept dissatisfaction as a part of life, even outside of the tech sphere. My advice: instead of VirtualBox, try Lutris or Bottles for gaming. Or if you bought the game through Steam, click Steam (top left)>Settings>Compatibility>"Enable Steam Play for all other titles," which will let me run nearly all of my games without issue. God help you if it's an anticheat problem though.
@@zipzopbeesopdro I think if Apple Tried to do what Valve is doing to Support Games (Maybe team up with steam to make it happen) Then they would eat into Microsofts market more.
Thank you for making this video Muta! That Arch Linux installer is amazing news to me. This is the opportunity I've been waiting on to really try out Arch Linux.
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How do you know Muta is an Arch Linux user? He'll bring it up in a video at least once a month.
that's still 100 times less often than an average Arch Linux user
Arch Linux users are the vegans of the OS.
"I use arch btw on arch, btw"
Just wait until he uses Void as his primary distro.
vegans of the pc market
The elitists will try to shame you for using the installer. Please ignore them. You don't need to have linux completely figured out before you even try it. You can learn as you go. When you come across a problem then look it up. Personally I have a separate drive for Arch. When you're ready to make the full switch it'll be easier
The only reason to build from scratch is the learning experience. After that just make a custom ISO and slap that on any new system you get.
the elitists don't even understand manual installation, they just waste time doing it step by step from a wiki. Arch isn't harder than any other distro, other than the fact it breaks 20x as often as any other distro and you have to chroot into it and save it, lmao
Right. The same way we learned how to use Windows, we can learn how to use Linux. Even if you went to MacOS, you will need to learn that too.
@@xU9aC6jQ5kR2zU0x I've been linux-only for 2 years and it was really easy for me to switch. Never booted windows so I eventually just removed it a long time ago
I'll be honest, in my time with Linux I've almost never seen these "elitists" people were fearing about, so people MIGHT be exaggerating their presence in the community.
That being said, I absolutely agree! Installing Arch is as easy as Mutahar showed in this video, and even if you manually install, it's just these steps but you're typing the commands yourself! And if this is the "harder" version of Linux, imagine how easier it is to install "beginner friendly" ones like Mint. Seriously, people. Go ahead, try Linux. The community is nothing to be afraid of.
The biggest perk of going Linux is leaving Microsoft behind.
yes no more annoying windows updates
evergreen comment
1)Heavy resource usage.
2)60+ gb of storage for a operating system like 11.
3)unwanted bloatware and services running in the background.
4)data collection(stealing). 5)privacy violation.
6) forced auto updates which can't be turned off.
Make sure to mention more things.
@@Barood88 7.) Windows smells funny. Like decay.
and let valve has full control who wants to make the game you bought not yours(but just rented to you)
When Win 10 ends next year, I'm done with it. I already tried a test run of Mint on my box and it works fine. I'm tired of MS telling me what I'm going to do with my computer.
That's nice, I heard from someone that they had moderate expectations that people would actually switch with the death of 10, hardware support incompatibility is a nice factor for our mission
@@MrBelles104 My PC is from 2017. It runs 11 without any issues at all. Hardware incompatibility is a smaller problem than people think
@@MrBelles104 MS is making it easy with all the intrusive junk they force on you. I ran Windows update last night and it shoved Copilot onto my box yet again. They have no concept of the word NO. The lead up to Win 10 end gives me time to do my research to see what I need to adapt. Win for me lose for MS. I already switched to LibreOffice years ago, no regrets.
@@eidodk I think you underestimate how many computers with 10+ year old hardware are still out there because they're still working hardware.
Ah, got your first taste of Mint! Really leaves you coming back for more, doesn't it? Excellent choice for your first dive into Linux.
Holy shit can we talk about how discord finally has audio screensharing on linux??? That's like a massive thing imo. Completely flew under my radar lol
Under Wayland, or just Xorg? Cause I think it's worked under Xorg for a while now.
Only in canary
never noticed it had audio screensharing on windows also lmao
now i can finally screenshare w audio femboy videos to my friends
Vencord or vesktop fixed that a while ago
3:03 What surprises me is that Linux outnumbers OSX on the Steam Hardware Survey
Because gaming on Linux is a technical issue, while gaming on Mac is a cultural issue.
@@Mr.Heller I thought mac was a technical issue greater than linux
apple has made horrible decisions when it comes to gaming on mac, developers can no longer reasonably keep up with mac support
@@TheJunky228 From my understanding, its really a MONEY issue from which everything else flows.
Why? Almost every steam deck is running Steam OS which is Linux (arch) so this doesn't surprise me at all.
I stopped playing games with anticheat that was incompatible with the penguin. Best decision ever.
Why? Is it because those games have a nature of draining your wallet, or other reasons of that like?
@MrBelles104 once you stop playing them you start to notice how shit those games actually are and how predatory and shady some of them are. giving up on playing live service addicting games is one of the best things you can do.
@@azenyr brah... this 10000000000%
I'm thankful for Tim Sweeney of Epic Games to allow Easy Anti Cheat (EAC) to support Linux. He proved that its possible on a large scale.
@@termiterasin It's Kernel level access to your machine which honestly i wouldn't trust
You know who else should be worried about Microsoft....
Your mom?
MY MOM
MY MOM!!
Who? Tell me pls
Microhard?
My mom use Linux Mint for about 8 years and never had any issues. She is super non-technical type, just edit documents, browsing web or watch a movie.
But she did not need me to help with anything in Mint. I just updated the system after about 7 years cause I wanted to.
Yeah most users are like that. They need an OS that has a text editor and an email client and a web browser.
However it's hard to get them used to using something like Mint even though it looks exactly the same as Windows. Idk why that is, but ive gotten calls from relatives telling me Facebook or an app on their phone was "broken" and I had to "fix it" because the company decided to change some colours and font sizes around. Same layout. Changed the looks a tiny bit. "It's broken."
Yeah linux is good for either "bootstrapper for browser and text editor" types (Steam is also online nowadays) or "neurotically learns literally everything (unfortunatefully for me I have a couple fo programs that I'm having trouble getting off windows from so wish me luch T_T)
My 78 year old father needed tech support from me every few months on windows due to viruses or other issues. 8 years ago I forced him on mint. After 2 weeks of getting used to things he started boasting to his friends how it "just works" and "it's free, can you believe it!?". To this day he's still running the same hardware and distro and he loves it.
@@EzekielGoldbergII You're a good son 👍
Wow... thats what you can do in Windows XP too... for this you could use any OS from 2000s or newer
My sister literally has learning disabilities from a head injury. I put her on Ubuntu, no more slow laptop, no more viruses, no more computer problems for years. I completely disagree with the notion that Linux isn't normie ready, it is.
I pray for your sister, man.
that dont mean anything, "learning disability" can be anywhere from ADHD and poor eyesight to down's syndrome
@@goofygoober875 No no, it does. Look at the words after "learning disability" and you'll see "head injury"
@@rullvardi She's fine but thank you.
@@ccgm_harpy Good to hear
as a windows user myself
i for one welcome our linux overlords. and support them at that matter.
I support arch linx!!! - me a dumb windows user
as a windows user too, I tried linux and tbh I like it a lot, but I am still going to use Windows. Like not as a daily driver, but more as a some days driver some other days is Debian
@@Mochimash420i used Linux for 6 months. Recently switched back to Windows, and the only issue I have with Linux is the poor sound quality. Like FU%K me is it horrid compared to windows
:3
I agree, competition is healthy and Windows has had basically no competition for far too long.
It's good to hear progress is being made with games. I'm still using windows and not by choice. I'm pretty computer illiterate and scared to try Linux. Seems like there might be light at the end of the tunnel now though. Hopefully I get the courage to switch before they force us into windows 11. Thank you for the update.
If you use an Android device, then congratulations, you already use Linux
Really you need more literacy to safely use Windows because it's always trying to trick you into doing things you don't want but Microsoft do.
Linux Mint is very user friendly with Ubuntu as a close second. While running programs that you download can be slightly annoying, anything you install from the repos through the software store will run out of the box. When you do switch, start with Mint.
I second Ubuntu, Mint, or a direct relative as a good starting point to use. Many people either install Linux as a second operating system or install it on an old computer, but if you're really worried, it is possible to buy a computer with Linux installed from the factory. System76 is a brand I've bought from in the past.
Just stay far away from asking the community if you get stuck on something. There’s no one linux forums hate more than a user who needs help getting started. you’ll just get people telling you that you aren’t smart enough and to go back to windows.
They’ll also claim that this is only a problem in whatever forum you encountered it on and you just need to go somewhere else that _totally_ doesn’t have the same culture problem, or that they’re right to exclude people who need help, or that it must be your fault for not asking properly somehow.
They’ll pop up to reply to this comment without realizing they’re the proof in the poop pudding, too, which is funny 100% of the time.
Owning a steamdeck certainly made me realize linux was fine for gaming, so i bought a separate ssd and installed linux mint as a dual boot and left my win10 install alone, so my windows is unchanged. That was about 6 months ago, the reality is that now i just dont use windows at all, like not at all, but its still there if ever i wanted to go use it. Every game ive thrown at linux runs perfectly, the only tinkering ive had to do is just choosing which proton version to use, which is just a right click menu on steam. Why did i do this, simply because i will not move to win11, and m$ is going to stop supporting win10. Im happy i decided to "just see" what linux was like, now im staying.
Praise Valve for Breaking the Ice on Linux.
Unless you want to play any game that has anti cheat or some DRM integrity in it, then you should be fine playing games on Linux
will windows get yahoomailed lmao
I still keep my cringey ass yahoo mail because most of my subscriptions are there and I haven't worked up the patience and motivation to move them all to my other email
And a lot of the software people that work for a living need don't exist on your computer and nobody with any self respect is going to use stuff like Gimp instead.
Linux marketshare by year according to internet statistics:
2009: 0.69%
2010: 0.78%
2011: 0.79%
2012: 0.85%
2013: 1.1%
2014: 1.33%
2015: 1.63%
2016: 1.49%
2017: 1.64%
2018: 1.59%
2019: 1.68%
2020: 1.76%
2021: 2.2%
2022: 2.55%
2023: 3.01%
2024: 4.11%
Other than dips in 2016 and 2018, it's been steady growth year over year.
Uploading this video when everyone is buying PC parts from Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales is brilliant.
the plot thickens...
Microsoft's worth $3.19 trillion. They're never going to be "really worried," ever.
Like iNteL was ?
@@Anders357 Apples and oranges, stupid, besides which Intel is still extremely wealthy, so you lost the argument twice.
No they won’t be and a lot of people don’t realize is that the US/Canadian government only have their companies interest at heart. Why do you think there’s so much spyware when the patriot act came out? It doesn’t stop at the OS, it’s internet too. Everything you are connected to. So.. it’s more or less which person gets the most and it’s always Microsoft.
@@VirtualBilly Everybody and everything can be replaced, there is no company "too big to fail", not a single one.
@@Reinaldulin lol Ok then, prove me wrong by making the $3.19 trillion company "really worried."
Your "installing hardest operating system" video helped me a lot. I've installed arch on my laptop and old PC using it as a guide. Thanks for doing it.
Fr I'm shocked just how easy it is. People describe installing arch like they're entering the Matrix 🤣
@@MangoPanic they think they gotta go through the linux kernel source code or something
now install CachyOS - it's Arch but even better and faster, and has a GUI installer
I'm still scared of it 😂 Someday in a VM though so off to bookmark that video.
@@MangoPanic Because a large portion of people started using PCs past Windows 95, and let's be real: Windows used to do a lot of things for their users and still does. So unless you needed something really out of the norm, chances were all you ever did was updating drivers and that was it.
But if you are old enough to remember the good old DOS times? If you had to learn a lot of actual commands and attributes to make said commands work as you wanted them to? Yeah, installing Linux is just like a path through memory lane, and it makes you wonder why people think it's hard. Well... it was if you never had to use the command prompt in your Windows life 😉
Linux is neat and all, and this channel got me into it... But Linux overtaking windows is impossible unless a Linux distribution comes out that is as normie friendly as actual Windows. Windows is so popular because their users can go their entire lives without ever actually entering a command window or a power shell.
It's possible they could. If M$ keeps bungling up with Windows 11 and future. M$ has been pretty damn aggressive, and invasive with their new updates.
People are lazy, and if Ubuntu was the default, that would become marketshare immediately.
Linux Mint is as "normie friendly as actual Windows". I recommend it to all my friends who are interested in trying or switching to Linux. It's the easiest to get started using. The Cinnamon version is very visually similar to Windows (task bar on the bottom, Start Menu type button on the lower left, time and notifications on the lower right, icons on the desktop, etc.
@@MrBelles104 either that or mint/kde heck, even the gaming specific distros
Linux Mint is more user-friendly than Windows
I've really been thinking about switching to Linux since the announcement of Windows 10 no longer being supported by the tail end of next year and with what I've seen, I think the next time I upgrade my PC is when I'll make the switch over. As someone that hasn't gotten into the Linux space before, aside from Raspberry Pi projects, I'm still a little apprehensive about it, but I'd be willing to try it now that things like Bazzite make it look a lot easier.
Just use a separate drive and unplug your Windows drive. Install Linux fresh like it is the only thing on the PC. This way Windows can't get accidentally erased and if you decide you want to go back, just unplug the Linux drive and plug the Windows drive back in and boot normally.
Linux surpassing OSX in Steam surveys is a good sign, I hope to see that number rocket upwards as next Halloween rolls around.
why Halloween specifically? also... what's OSX
@@DanYamiapples macos
@@DanYamiBecause the week prior Microsoft shuts off security updates for Windows 10’s main branches.
@@crimson-foxtwitch2581 oh... yeah
judgement day.
PLEASE let these words be true I do NOT WANT to be forced to use WinSlop11
It's not like my PC even CAN downgrade to Win11 (I do not have the spyware chip
@@crimson-foxtwitch2581 Average people don't care about being out of support for security updates though. It won't affect anything major.
Valve making an awesome handheld and encouraging ports to it is resulting in a lot of titles get native releases on Linux, and I have no doubt that's entirely intentional. They've been diligently and single-handedly leading the charge to free gamers from Microsoft for *years*, ever since Windows 8 era at least when Gabe N first talked about doing so. Their herculean efforts are paying off, and the Linux desktop is flourishing in ways that really surprise me (as someone who's used it professionally on both client and server for >10 years).
GabeN should finally drop Steam OS for ALL PCs and not just keeping the darn thing Steam Deck exclusive >_> I swear they already dropped the ball when Win8.1 expired and the will totally miss this opportunity again to catch up people who don't wanna continue with Win11 but will do anyway simply because Valve won't get anything done.
@@KRAFTWERK2K6They probably will since it will help them sell more steam decks and possibly steam boxes in the future. But MSFT will never port the Xbox PC or PC gamepass to linux. Especially games like COD and Warzone
Fedora ≠ Arch... What you want is cat ears, a maid skirt and stripey programmer socks.
I'm actually more worried about Fromsoftware getting acquired by Sony than Microsoft here
But but but muh Bloodborne 2
@@Freddisred Sony already owns the Bloodborne IP and they're not doing anything with it.
Owning FromSoftware isn't going to change anything on that matter.
@@RomainDelmaire It's a pain but genuinely it's probably better to just emulate Bloodborne now.
Why? Sony runs their own version of BSD. BSD and Linux both use a standard called "POSIX" (same with Mac btw). So it's easy to work with both operating system for ports of software. The issue has always been Microsoft using their own proprietary standards and forcing away the choice with its monopolistic market share. There is a reason why valve is doing all this stuff with Linux to hedge their business.
Sony could easily port to Linux/Steam.
Technically they're trying to acquire the parent company of FromSoftware. They would get From in thst deal, but it's not as simple as tha.t they'd be absorbing a lot more than From. It'll probably happen. The world is run by gross oligopolies
Put linux on my laptop, and been using it for about an year. Extremely happy.
I put manjaro on my old gaming laptop recently and I'm kind of surprised at how basically everything just... works. And better than windows did. My windows 10 install was laggy and choppy and manjaro just works and all the hardware is supported.
setup dual boot with Kubuntu 8 years ago.
my expectation was that I'll have to boot into windows due to technical issues or learning curve on a daily basis.
did never boot into windows again.
I know right! Thanks to trackpad gestures (thanks, Gnome! because of whom, KDE added them too), basically all I want is here, except kinetic scrolling.
No more windows garbage. I am always excited for updates on linux! I'm like "what's updates do we have now!" LDAC works *out of the box*! HDR is still in its infancy, but it's seeing good progress too. nvidia is catching onto the linux driver train too, so that's nice.
I really hope more security features make it sooner than later because you can start to expect bad actors targeting linux too. The techie in me appreciates the features in the windows kernel, especially the security side of things.
Flatpak is nice but it is not a good sandbox from a security pov. It's good as a unified packaging solution.
Overall optimistic for the future of linux.
I said this before and I'll keep to it. Once Win 10 is done, I'm done with windows. I'll switch to Linux and I expect we'll see some kind of a bump in Linux users at that time. One problem everyone will face is that Windows dumbed down everything for so long that using Linux will be a pretty painful learning experience. Great advice to try out in VM first.
I hope Muta will make another in-depth guide when that time comes. I can figure out how to set up linux but there are so many options etc. that I have no idea what they mean (but I might want to change them for whatever reason) and I'd just choose default.
Also, I'm not a fanboy (I don't support monopolies) but Valve makes it really hard to dislike them with everything they do for gamers. They are one of very, very few companies that know their userbase or at the very least know how not to shaft it for money in a way that will bite them back. I respect that simply because we live in a world where that approach is so, SO much better than the approach all other companies take, aka taking a fat one on the end user just to have a few more pennies. Steam is second only to GOG but for very different reasons.
I'm a systems administrator in a library. I had to replace a couple of old computers earlier this year. They both have Windows 10 on them, and their hardware can't do Windows 11. No problem...coming up next fall, I'll dump it in favor of Linux. If Microsoft wants to shoot themselves in the foot THAT badly...well, not my problem. LONG LIVE LINUX!
When Gabe Newell dies, Steam will probably be enshitified unfortunately
Awesome mate. Stay away from Arch and its derivatives if you're just starting out. I recommend Mint
@@reezlawI've been using Linux for almost 20 years now. Me, I feel most at home with Debian Stable.
I saw that announcement and I'm so gonna be part of the state to switch. I wanted to get a steam deck to try Linux but honestly I've been debating to try Linux on my desktop because of these videos
Its not a fedora that gives it away, its the sunken darkness around your eyes that say you look at computer screens more than 3/4 of the world
probably. iirc mutarhar's real job is in IT. his hobby is content creation and gaming and tinkering with linux. literally 90% of his life in on the computer 😂
he got insomnia and night terrors too.
@@Rudi_Gauss I did not know that, that sucks man. Sorry brah. I also suffer from insomnia at times.
The last major barrier in gaming support revolves around a select few major game studios checking a damn checkbox, which only shows how broken the philosophy of closed source is.
Of course it's broken, Microsoft did get sued for anti-competitive practices and frankly it's common in gaming, exclusives for example, as a practice is to buy your way to fucking over your competition. Of course game developers owned by companies with a serious stake in the PC market choose not to make their games available for an open source platform, because they can't monetize it. Alot of ways they make money off of cross polination between games only being available on Windows, to sell Windows as the only plausible platform for gaming.
Corpo greed is as corpo greed does. The fact that Linux might get to a proportional size of the market that they have to take it serious, is great. Consumers do actually some power over the market, and the corpos hate it.
However, there is also the problem of incompatible anti-cheat software that doesn't work on Linux, which takes some of the fortnites out of the equation.
What is broken about the philosophy? They simply don't bother supporting platforms 97% don't use and why should they just because you think they should?
@@omega1231 What are you talking about? 🤦🏼♂ Game developers obviously can monetize their games on LInux just like on Windows, it makes no difference to them. The reason they are not on Linux is that nobody except a few nerds is using it.
@@cyberfunk3793Bro anyone who owns a gaming PC is already a nerd.
@@cyberfunk3793 Broken as in, the fate of software rests in the hands of a few people, it's never been good for end users, which is why Flash Player was superseeded by the open HTML5, and quickly died afterwards, as an example.
Another day, another Linux video by Mutahar as I watch from my comfy Windows gaming desktop
What's up with the Enderman behind you?
It would be in front of him?
Wtf I can't unsee it 😂
Lol
Enderman is opening up another layer of VM it seems
i thought of endermanch...
The overhype of AI is insane.
I think one day, AI will advance enough until the hype is definitely deserved. But that day is not today. Microsoft needs to chill with their crummy Copilot project. It’s not really all that.
@@steven1671 AI will advance and we'll just be accustomed to it. It'll be a part of normal life, I have a hard time believing lots of people will be excited about it. The only people who care now are corpos and tech bros, the only people who will care in 10 years are corpos and tech bros
Until it kills us anyway
Ai is a neat tool.. I don't know why people keep trying to avoid it.
I use it at least 100 times a day..
@@mgord9518 Strongly disagree, there is a growing trend of morons who use GPTs for their way of life and think it's functional even with how bad it currently is, and I'm not talking about techy people.
@@steven1671 ai is fast googling
Unbelievable. People are moving to Linux not thanks to Linux marketing, but because Microsoft is pushing them away.
I agree, BUT...your average pc user thinks remembering their own email password is too much effort. Learning Linux requires more than the common TicTok / YT short level of attention span.
Your average PC user isn't concerned with the reasons why people switch to Linux...
I actually bought a Raspberry Pi just to get a touch of Linux. And ended up loving how to figure out how to make different things work.
Shit you actually right bro xD
Us PC users are a dying breed. At risk of sounding like a boomer, everyone is on their DAMN PHONES
@@itsdokko2990 kids thesedays reactively want to touch the screen, not even knowing what is a controller
@@Feed9Will Firefox and Chrome, remember email password just as fine on Linux.
Fear the penguin, Microsoft...
😂
Tux is bound to come crashing through the flimsy glass Windows, and eat a big Mac for breakfast like it's nothing!
Insert noot noot meme
yeah yeah
Microsoft should be afraid of itself. They're really the only one that's pushing people away with their dumbassery.
>Be me in middle school
>decided to use linux cuz all the cool kid used it
>not a single tutorial
>even kids in my class refuse to help me out
>"learn to read" "go read the documentation" they said
>community isnt much help either, giving some abstract solution, told me to just read documentation, etc
>decided that linux's not worth the effort
>ffw 5-7 years later
>still using windows, somehow managed to bypass all the annoying stuff in it, and get all my job done in an instance
>everyone's suddenly released how to use linux videos
>even my classmate's suddenly recomending linux
>"here's an easy to use distros" "ill even teach you how yo use it" they said
>people are getting nicer in linux now. Tho some part of the community are the same
When i tryna install linux back then no one's betting an eye. But now that ive been comfortable with windows everyone's asking me to use linux now?
I haven’t had issues with Proton/Wine compatibility stuff. HOWEVER, if you’re new and have your games on a separate drive, keep in mind that Proton and Wine seem to be a lot more stable if the games are installed on an ext4 partitioned drive. If your system is windows, then your drives are more than likely ntfs partitioned. So if you’re new to Linux gaming and are getting weird issues with compatibility even with Proton or Wine, then make sure the drive with your games is ext4 and not ntfs. Just be aware that would require a reformat, which means you will lose any data on the drive, so back it up.
Never tried using an NTFS drive on Linux, but I can't imagine it works very well. Personally, I use btrfs.
@ yeah, what I was talking about is setups where there’s multiple drives on the same computer. Let’s say you have windows on drive 1 and your games on drive 2. If you then replace windows with Linux, drive 2 will still be ntfs, so if you try to launch a game with Wine from drive 2, it causes problems.
Might be worth making a compatdata symlink on your NTFS drive to "~/.steam/steam/steamapps/compatdata".
it doesn't necessarily have to be ext4, other linux filesystems like btrfs work just as well
I got some issues with my gaming ssd (NTFS). The first problem is file ownership, Wine/Proton will only work if the little windows folder used to run the game (called prefix) is owned by you (the user running the game), second drives my be mounted by the running user, or may be mounted by root, giving an access error. The second issue is that NTFS doesn't allow ':' on file names, breaking the proton prefixes shortly after creating them.
Formatting wasn't an option because my sisters uses the PC as well, so I "fixed" it by redirecting the prefixes to the Linux drive, and changing those files permissions so it can work
Might get hate from computer nerds for saying this but I love the archinstall script 10:21. Work smarter, not harder. 😜
I agree. It makes me want to test it on a VM
Bro as a person whose installed arch at least 12 times I was so hyped when I found out about it
Just use endeavourOS it's prepackaged really well and you get started quickly
Yeah but it's sort of buggy
@@StanleyRBLX endeavourOS
I swear to god, if anticheat games finally get linux support at least through private servers or shit, I will cry of happiness
I tried to use Linux some weeks ago. Did like it... for a couple of days. I tried Mint and Fedora, but find out that pretty much constantly I was investing a TON of time trying to make something work that on Windows would took me just a few clicks. Even worse if your english is not on point as the majority of the information you need is in this language.
I will say if you don't have the time or energy/effort to do that sort of thing then it's completely understandable, especially given how the language barrier does create a very large inaccessibility problem. I will say though, for someone who was a Windows user for such a long time, I did figure it out and I touch the command prompt very rarely now, but yeah Windows just has the edge because most applications that are built on PC has Windows in mind, so of course it just works. I hope people and well-meaning companies see this growth and develop things specifically for Linux in a straightforward manner so that even my grandma can use the OS. The reality is the OS is superior to Windows in a lot of ways, but people are totally stuck in the Windows ecosystem because it still has the ease of use edge. That is something that, above everything else, must be taken into consideration when making the switch, up until something is done about it.
@@MonkeSle I too hope the same thing. Even though I had a lot of problems I could see the appeal, my pc in general was running better, non-native games didn't run properly for me, but the native ones... holy moly, that was another story entirely. I do believe in the huge potential of Linux, and hope it reaches a point where as you said, anyone can use it without complications.
in the beginning as you're learning the terminal may be necessary if you're trying to do certain things, but as you learn the system, it should be less necessary over time
My point exactly: you tried it for a couple of DAYS. How much time did you have to invest before you learned Windows properly and figured out how things could be just done with a few clicks? And how important was the stuff you needed to do actually? Or was it just something you got really used to do in a certain way, so you didn't even look at how it was "normally" done under Linux? Not judging, it's just something I see happening a lot of the time.
> Even worse if your english is not on point as the majority of the information you need is in this language.
To be honest, that's true with almost all fields. English is the lingua franca of the modern world and a lot of science and development happens purely in it. Translations to local languages tend to be somewhat rare, less detailed, and often 30 years out of date. No matter the field.
I had no idea we were getting a mod manager for Linux. And it currently supports Cyberpunk 2077, Stardew Valley, and Baldur's Gate 3.
Every now and then I'll pop into a Muta video and learn about something I'm totally gonna waste hours experimenting with lmao.
Finally, even though it's fairly easily done manually (as it is on Windows, the problem might be the file location as it's buried in compatibility folders) larger mod packs was and is a pain to install on Linux.
When it supports Skyrim and Oblivion I may make the switch
yesterday i modded fallout 4 according to the mignight ride guide, once you get the wine / prefix thing, it gets pretty easy to do things.
Just install Mod Organizer 2 into your wine prefix, it works flawlessly
You could always use steamtinkerlaunch to use vortex - It's nice they are making a native manager but we has the ability to mod since 2020 easily
@@plasmastormel5940 if thats stopping you from switching to linux, it's supported through steamtinkerlaunch that allows vortex mod launcher on linux
I made my second PC into a ProxMox testrig as a side project and tried all the Linux distros that seemed interesting to me on it. I think I will go with Fedora for my main rig somwhere down the line. But I can see why office people or gamers wouldn´t switch just like that.
You have to completely rethink how you interact with your OS, where stuff is, how it gets saved and updated, you have to port over all your databases and programs, be it your browser files, your password managers, etc. You have to adjust all your workflows and that requires, that you´re already somewhat tech savy on Windows in the first place.
I think Linux is a great choice for people who know nothing about PCs or for people that already came from IT in the first place. For everyone else it´s just hella confusing and time consuming to do the switch for good, so they need a good reason and clear instructions on how to do it.
bliss and the frutiger aero vibe from windows xp is so nostalgic. Nowadays every UI looks standarized to be "modern and clean". It's just boring.
and then there's xfce 😭 (i use default xfce)
@@FurqanHuncheck out the ReVista theme
I've been primarily gaming on a MacBook for the last 10 years, I know, I'm the only one. This is mostly down to how much I have been burned by Windows OS and how many problems I've encountered on it that shouldn't happen, like at all. Seeing the advancements in gaming on Linux has been amazing and seeing Apple take a serious swing at gaming for macs is also interesting. I do hope that things continue in this way because it's just good all around. I'm just surprised at how much Microsoft has kinda shot themselves in the foot over the last couple of months and how much I don't want to use Windows 11 more now than any other Windows OS. Like I'll take Vista over Win11.
What don't you like about Windows 11? From a basic user standpoint, it is no different in functionality than Windows 10. I am typing this on my Mac, by when I updated my Windows 10 system to Windows 11 I did not have any problems or really even encounter much change is usage. I know it is fashionable to knock Windows 11, but I don't see the actually problem for people who can run it. To be fair, the usage requirements are dumb and if non-TPM hardware was supported, I don't think anyone at all would be complaining. It's not like it's Windows 8 or anything.
@@wjckc79 It's mostly from a security standpoint as that's my profession, in addition to a lot restrictions on the system making me think, "When did Microsoft start taking lessons from Apple in locking down stuff?" Also with how ham-fisted copilot and recall have been implemented.
@@wjckc79 Windows 11 is more intrusive, and it uses more resources. Plus Copilot is a thing, and they're not wanting to back down on Recall.
Why should you get overpriced trash hardware in form of an apple for gaming?
@@maximiliangruber2796 personal preference and because I’ve never had a windows computer not have some major malfunction within the first year of owning it. The personal preference comes from the fact I’ve been using Macs since OS 9.3, note this is not OSX, I mean OS 9.3, power pc G4 OS. I will agree the Mac’s are a bit overpriced, but I’m willing to pay that for a computer that will last me more than 10 years.
Long full time time linux user (currently Linux Mint 21.3) and gamer. Under current times thanks to steam deck proton with steam I'm playing any game I want that doesn't have an Origin launcher requirement. On the exact same hardware (listed below) I get more fps on all titles I play in linux than I did in windows 10 including windows only titles running threw proton.
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, Radeon RX 6750 xt 12gb, 64gb ddr4, 2tb boot nvme ssd, 6tb WD black gaming hard drive, Linux Mint 21.3, X11 (wayland not ready yet imo).
Ive been putting off installing windows 11 LTSC on my laptop for months now but I think I am going to give Linux a try finally. I am getting so fucking sick of MS's bullshit.
its worth it imo, im starting with ubuntu its decently user friendly
Yeah Windows quality has been degrading. Windows 11 is where I want to switch to anything else
@@nadiaecho9583 Try mint instead is based on Ubuntu but way better and more friendly for windows users.
Why wait to try a Linux distro ? Just buy a low cost external SSD and install Linux on it and use it from time to time alongside your current Windows. That way you'll get to acclimatize to it to see if it's something you could use full-time going forward. There's really no need to wait until ' crunch time'. If you decide that Linux isn't for you, then at least you have extra external storage for your laptop that maybe you could use to store copies of important files.
@@ianhenshaw2930 I want to eventually make the full switch
if linux can run all my games i would switch in day one
And other programs
For me, if it could run my programs, then I would switch over.
@@MaoRatto What programs is it you need? Is it Adobe stuff?
Check if your programs and games can run in a compatibility layer like Wine or Proton
it cant run the most specific .exe Skyrim SE mods, so Linux is completely dead to me, even more so that in the near future ill be getting a VR headset and ill be needing to see such mods with another perspective
I appreciate how good videos you make. You always give good insight.
Listen, I like Linux just as much as the other guy but we need to be tactful when recommending this OS for daily driving.
While Linux is very nice for specific tasks, once you want to do a wider array of actions problems may arise here and there.
And for those who are tech inclined they may have easier time dealing with issues, but the average joe won't share the same experience.
Once more, I love Linux, but I'll never recommend it to anyone. It has to be the type of person who's willing to tinker and learn in their personal time.
Absolutely, and often if you screw up on Linux that's a whole another rabbit hole to deal with for a normal user.
@@Charvin Yep. This happaned to me so many times. Thankfully these days WSL is a thing.
I don't know if I agree with you here. Linux imo isn't really that much harder, it's just different. If you just sit someone that has never used a PC in front of a Windows installation they'd be just as lost as if you'd put them in front of a Linux installation.
If you never had any contact with Windows, I'm sure that someone could learn to use Linux just as fast as they could learn to use Windows (at least the basics stuff like installing and using software and basic configuration). I don't see why typing apt install firefox would be much harder compared to going to the website, downloading the installer and double clicking it. It's just a completely different approach that you need to get used to when coming from Windows, which does most things differently. It's hard to let go of old habits, that's why most people have problems switching to Linux. Not because it's so advanced that you need to have studied computer science to use it.
Yea, I used to be gung ho about it until I realized people don't wanna follow me down this rabbit hole. Before getting into it myself, I just wanted things to work. Heck, even though I want to play around with Slackware and CRUX (and even FreeBSD), I STILL just want things to work at times, so I want to spend time in friendlier systems without fragmenting ( so basically Ubuntu and Fedora) so I can see if I'd recommended them to others.
@@LeyaWehner It works until it doesn't, and then you have to search for a solution, you run into the issue of different answers for different kernels and distros. This is where Linux fails IMO.
0:27 As a Linux user I love and hate it
**insanely deep inhale** HEY GUYS I USE ARCH
And before anybody runs me over, I actually use Knoppix, because I love working hard for minor benefits.
@@der_pinguin44 I use arco, looking to switch to nix
Mutahar, great video. Thanks. I've played with running Linux but always (sadly) came back to windows. I run a Ryzen 9 7940 HS Mini PC and it's great. I might swpa the drives out for some spares I have and give Bazzite another go. Thanks for being the first RUclipsr taking about Linux desktops that I've heard pronounce Gnome correctly :D Cheers
Arch user btw. I've used Windows my whole life, but made the switch to Linux 3 years ago during the pandemic cus why the fuck not. Best decision of my life.
same
I wanted to make the switch, but school and work used windoze. I tried using Libre Office, but my documents always came out a huge mess in ms Word. I've always kind of BASHed windoze, but I will give them credit for making Excel a decent program.
same exact thing. february 2021 i just set it up for laughs and ended up daily driving it
I look into Linux every other year. But it always seems like a pain where you have to go back to using command prompt to do everything and have a 60% chance to brick your pc. I did use dos as a kid but I don't really want to have to do that now.
It does feel like a pain to use the command line for some solutions that are not in a GUI. The moment you know what command to use, it is better. But that is sadly the catch (for me). Getting to that moment takes time.
Bazzite is what you want
Ubuntu is my main OS. The only time I use the command line is when I install, update, or remove programs, but make no mistake: you can do all this graphically now.
OpenSUSE is my main OS, I only use the command line to move files around in batches - not because it is impossible to do through a GUI, but because it is faster for me to type up a nice mv glob than clicking around. And to update the system just because I like it. 60% chance to brick your pc is a stat pulled right out of someone's dirty hole, you won't be bricking your linux installation any more than you would brick your windows installation. Restoring a fail is also way easier on Linux than on Windows, thanks to snapper - your just power up your pc and select a snapshot right in the first screen, no "recovery mode", no "your computer failed" screen, nothing, just choose and bam, ready to rollback.
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?
Distros like mint do not require the terminal, at all.
Please just get this myth out of here, it's holding linux back.
Was hoping you’d cover Pokemon go situation. Excited for tomorrow.
5:20 based as fuck Level1techs shoutout. Wendell is the most GOATed tech youtuber alive
One of the best
GN is also great
he is bigoted towards ...well
The problem with Anti-Cheats is not that they cannot make a proper equivalent of the Windows version for Linux, but the company making them just don't see the reason to work to make them for Linux. Some of them did released a Linux version from their anti-cheat, but they basically strip out pretty much anything low-level from them, making them almost useless. After all in the world we live in, everything is about profit. Anti-Cheats company doesn't see the need to work on something working for Linux due to the rather low market share and Game Publisher often just don't want to do any work for Linux players anyways. Just the fact that games like Counter-Strike 2 can work perfectly fine under Linux prove that fact.
The more people start using Linux for Gaming, the more company might start to realized that it is not such a small market anymore and it might be worth working to make their games work fine under Linux instead of just blocking users that want to play with that system.
The problem is the negative feedback loop here - Anti-cheat doesn't support Linux -> Users stay on windows (let's assume majority of the games they play are multiplayer and/use AC that doesn't support Linux) due to the perceived inconvenience of having to switch back and forth to play those specific games -> -1 for linux gamer which continues to make AC devs seem like it'll be not worth investing in it, rinse and repeat. With the rise of the Steam Deck and Proton, I have very high hopes as we are now starting to see more movement in that general direction, but for the majority of people who just want to be able to play their favorite online video game, Windows will continue to seem like the most convenient option. I think about at least partially switching to Linux consistently but unfortunately due to certain ACs straight up hard blocking users trying to use it on Linux (Looking at you Apex Legends), I don't really have the convenience of doing that.
@@BreadtheRipper Linux has gone up 0.13% to 2% on the steam hardware survey and that is after steam deck has been out for ages. There is no movement lol
@@Whatareyouareyoumakes ya wonder why? 😂
The thing thats stopping me from doing a full linux swap would have to be VR. I play a decent amount of games on it, and losing that would be not worth all the effort.
I bought a Steamdeck LCD on sale when the OLED version was released. Shortly after, my work PC broke down and I had to get a new one. I had stuck with Windows 10 for as long as I could, but with the new work PC I had no choice but to update to Windows 11...
The Steamdeck proved to me that I don't need Windows and I installed Manjaro Linux on my new Work PC.
I now have Manjaro on all my PCs and Microsoft is no longer welcome on the premises.
Manjaro is a Broken distro that bricks itself
Use EndeavorOS for a better experience
If my mom can use linux in her laptop and pc then everyone in this comment section can, she has been using it for half a decade
i'd honestly argue it's not that simple; linux is very straightforward for two types of people, the people who use their computer for very basic tasks (email, web browsing, watching videos, movies, listening to music), and the power users who can manage configuration and updates and whatnot. the people who'd have the hardest time with linux are the people in the middle, who are looking to do more than the basics but aren't quite power users.
Very informative video as a fellow Gamer I really appreciate this information 🙏🏻
13:33 MENTAL OUTLAW MENTIONED!!!
So many games are running under Proton 9.0 that weren't running under last year's Proton.
I feel like Muta would’ve made an awesome head flight attendant, reading off the seatbelt rules and safety procedures before a flight takes off.
All fun until you have to install a goddamn wifi usb dongle.
Have been there, I was lucky some guy made my specific dongle work on linux on github, eventually linux detected the dongle before needing any additional install.
It's only popular because it's been the default and people (myself included) usually just go with the default. Luckily, watching Muta has encouraged me to explore other options.
it's also pretty new that many games run better on linux than on windows
I swear sometimes Windows will purposely break my Arch Linux whenever I use it bare metal. It literally messes up the bootloader.
Yes, ms doesn't support efi standard and access regulations and absolutely butchers it to try and make itself prioritised.
Not how efi is supposed to be used the way they do it.
Manually disable "fast boot" or whatever other deceptively useless name they have given it, do a "full shutdown" of windows not the fake one that isn't shutdown that it likes to do without speciffic settings, then install linux.
Or just blast windows away and daily drive the better quality OS that doesn't ignore established hardware standards.
Microsoft needs to fix their gaming side also
Use 10 IoT LTSC. Zero problems. The only thing it lacks is direct storage functionality, but only a handful of games use that.
A few weeks ago I made the switch, and I know for a fact that integrations with some of my hardware is actually BETTER than it is with windows. Arch is incredible, and I cannot find a single reason why I would ever go back.
I still build it manually myself, but it's sort of therapeutic in a way.
part of the appeal is doing everything yourself i find. using the installer is understandable but there's something fun about building it yourself, not unlike building a computer.
AFAIK anecdotally archinstall does some things weird depending on your configuration (like if you choose to use btrfs, it just sets up the subvolumes completely wrong). but that's what i've been told and it's been like a year since then, give or take.
@@gassug2 I definitely feel like I can control the KDE bloat when I build myself. When you use the installer, it is sort of all or nothing.
I know that I have better stability when I control the order of things to fit what, in my mind, makes the most sense. I think it may be the most stable computing experience I've ever had. Even games are incredible lol. I just can't believe how far things have progressed. I fully intend on devoting most of my open source contributions to the community. We will make Windows a thing of the past. Sooner than we think.
11:50 OMG GUYS he almost did the meme face!!! It must be the power of virtual machines!!
I swore that Windows 10 would be the last Windows OS since Windows has gotten REALLY bad over the years. I'm all for Linux gaming if it can get to the point where I can install the game and run it out of the box on linux.
Its soo close, yet so far... Jokes aside, most games do work with a switch enabled. Indeed its sad that there are exclusive games and specific things that needs adjusting to get a game you might like to work
Any game released in the past 5 years, Steam on Linux usually runs ootb. Any game released between 5 and 10 years ago may need a little bit of tinkering (check ProtonDB). Games released before 2010 usually need extensive configuration to work and I doubt that will change any time soon... but then again that's frequently the case on modern Windows.
Connecting to a server is a bit more hit or miss. I'm still disappointed that the creator of Rust won't tick the checkbox that allows Easy Anti-Cheat players on Linux to join servers, purely because of his personal grievances.
@the1necromancer I remember when rust was fun. Ironically the gunplay recoil change made it easier for cheaters to blend in, despite being sold as the opposite. They sell a lot of copies to cheaters
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Unless it starts coming pre installed, 99% of people not gonna bother. Maybe more like 5% of gamers will
Now for web or app dev.. 🤧 it got better but only masochists use it
^^This. None of the Linux fanatics ever talk about this. They just say "oh its so easy to install Linux on your PC". Most non-tech savvy people will likely never be able to do it. And pretty much non computer that most people would buy comes with Linux preinstalled. And that's assuming your average PC user even knows about Linux (which pretty much no one knows about this lunix thing). When was the last time anyone saw an ad for a Linux PC on TV? When was the last time anyone saw a pre-installed Linux PC in store? I know there are online retailers that sell PCs with Linux, but no average PC user has ever heard of System76 or TuxedoPCs and no person is going out of their way to look for Linux PCs from HP or Dell or Lenovo.
I agree for ultra normies but a huge amount of PC gamers build their systems themself, likely not the majority but enough to cause a tide shift if gaming on Linux still wasn't so miserable.
@@zombieguyYou mean they build the pc which will inevitably run a WinOS because the installation is as easy as downloading it onto a flash drive and sticking it in?
I'm actually getting off of Windows. I draw the line at what i see them doing with copilot. I don't like it. I don't trust it anymore. They really screwed the pooch this time.
Off topic but when I get sad or have a shii day ur videos right here are just great thank you !!!
FEAR THE PENGUIN, WINDOW.
Another muta linux vid, LETS GO! You were a huge part of me moving to linux!
makes using the PC much more enjoyable doesn't it?
Built a new computer after 12 years and got linux mint running thanks to you bud. Been running CB2077 for 2 months now and its been an exciting adventure. Cheers happy thanksgiving ;)
The purpose of an operating system is to run the applications I want to run.
I'm not opposed to running anything other than windows, but that something HAS to, and this isn't negotiable, it HAS to run 100% of all my applications.
Ok, I'm also not opposed to having to do a little extra work to get them running, but even if ONE application functions at a suboptimal level of performance, I'm out.
i agree, i'd love to run linux but unfortunately i have way too many windows-specific programs
Just sayin, older computers and non god tier computers spend half (if not more) of their resources on windows.
The same devices we then wiped and gave ubuntu Boom all that free space even after loading the files back on and all the system that was weighed down by windows girth.
If you really feel attached to your apps of tech monarch ms make a dual boot machine. You can choose whichever you want to boot with when you turn the machine on. All the apps that only play nice in windows and all the apps you would have to pay for if you tried to get them on windows (2048, and solitaire for examples, are free on linux) none of the weird Microsoft micro & macro crimes against privacy either.
@@m.lorace3589 NON NEGOTIABLE. 100% or not at all.
Wrong! The purpose of computers is to get the job done. You don't need a specific tool (specific computer, operating system, software, brand of keyboard) to do what you need to do.
Life becomes so much easier when you switch from "I need this software" to "I need a software to do this".
@@a-british-villain mate, among the things I want to do are the thousands of games I own I want to run. That is just one of the things I need my OS to do.
arch is not for new to linux users stop acting like it just works if these new to linux users get on arch they gonna quit the second something breaks (and it will break it is arch)
To be clear, I started back in the BASIC days so typing in esoteric commands is something I *USED* to do. The FRAGMENTED mess that is the LINUX Desktop environment is just silly.
Even your boy Linus sez so.
Yep can confirm, been using Linux Mint for over a year now, and recently started streaming on it too. It's gotten to a state that I hope I'll never have to go back to win again.
Maybe one day I'll go grow some bigger balls ( and have time lol ) and will go full Arch......
dw about it man, it's fun to use arch, but there's nothing wrong with using a debian based distro. Considering how much support flatpak has, you're not really missing out on updated software. I like using arch personally, but the great thing about linux is the way that a distro can really fit your workflow.
Every single Arch install I have had ends up borking itself after an update. Never fails, boots to a black screen and nothing will fix it. Even booting to a previous image ends up not working. I've gone to Fedora KDE and stayed here.
9:00 now you have my attention
Microsoft should just put Windows in the Linux distro list right now. It is becoming more and more like Linux. When Microsoft look at their user base it is evident that by and large their data shows techies use windows more than any other normal user and they don’t want to loose this base. This is why windows is doing WSL, soon it “WINDOWS” will become a native LinuxOS. Give it time.
It already has… my god, most people can go into a registry and turn most things to a 0 and make a script with python to run every time you update and it’ll disable it 😂
WIsh Steam would finally release a Linux based OS for PC. Sure there's a ton of distros out there, so many it's easy to get lost and at times hard to find easy to understand solutions for issues one might run into. Steam with all their infrastructure and financial resources could be a total gamechanger bringing Linux to the average consumer.
SteamOS is not a super special Valve product, contrary to what most Windows users believe. It's literally just an atomic version (i.e. you can't change system files) of Arch Linux with the KDE Plasma desktop, and drivers to control the Steam Deck's power profiles. Having it come to PC would not really make that much of a difference from what's already available, save for being recognizable as a brand product, which I guess is the idea.
Isn't that SteamOS?
im fairly certain they want a PC specific distro here instead of steamOS which is only really meant for steamdeck
So early, Arkane and Tango are still up and running
Nobara Linux is pretty cool. too, I just tested it totally in RAM with Live distro, Steam and Halls of Torment game on a i5 14400 and Nvidia GTX 1660. Nobara has Steam Deck version, too. :)
Yep and it keeps breaking on me with updates. I went to Fedora (which Nobara is made from) and have settled here.
I wanna swap to linux so bad on my main computer but i use adobe software fusion 360 and others that dont work on linux just cause companies dont want to make versions of them that work on linux im not worried about games running on linux because there are "issues" but software like adobe should have a linux port but companies for some reason dont.
Their reason for not having a Linux port is typically because the cost of developing and maintaining it exceeds the revenue they predict to generate from it. Its a real Catch-22 situation: developers won’t make software compatible with Linux because there aren’t enough users, but a huge reason behind the lack of users is the lack of software compatibility.
It takes companies like Valve to take a risk and get the ball rolling.
If Fortnite is able to run on Linux soon then I will switch, it is the only thing keeping me from switching.
If fortnite is the only software or game you run, you might want to try dual booting. This way you can use linux for everything else and windows for windows only applications. The only hassle is rebooting each time you need said application
@@AramJonghu I have looked into dual booting my system but it’s not really worth it for one game when I play hundreds that natively support windows. As SteamOS and proton get better I may give more thought into it but it seems like every multiplayer game that use Easy Anti Cheat is only Windows compatible so I can’t really do much. The only fully exclusive Windows game I play is Fortnite but it isn’t the only one that is primarily Windows focused. I’ve looked into Prism Launcher for Minecraft and the several ways to make Vr work, it kind of is just Fortnite.
@@Buzz.co2 totally understandable! It's great to see consideration like this. Personally I play League of Legends (God forbid) and that is my main windows usecase. That works for me. Good luck with your endeavours!
Seriously? Fortnite is your deciding factor? There are so many other ways to play Fortnite. Xbox, Playstation, Switch, Cloud, Amazon Fire Stick... Since I switched to Linux, I now enjoy sitting in my living room playing games on consoles with friends and family on a comfy sofa and a large tv. It's been nice to leave my gaming chair, stretch my legs and play games on a 4k tv while sitting 10 feet away. I think I spent too much of my life sitting at a desk, 2 feet from my screen for way too long. I forgot how comfortable my living room was.
@@Buzz.co2I'm in a similar use case, didnnt stop me. I only have a 200gb windows partition for Destiny and that's it. It's not that big of a deal, it feels like launching a console or my real computer.
As someone who works in the industry I've been listening to this fairy tale for 15 years.
Honestly, I’ve been using Bazzite and had a much smoother time transitioning. Seriously anyone that wants to game on Linux I’d pick Bazzite, especially if you want things to work right out of the box
I've been using Bazzite for a week or so now, and it's the biggest piece of shit OS i've ever used, how anyone thinks this thing is good is totally beyond me
Nobara is better
I can't switch because I'm already using linux for more than 10 years, And yes, it's is almost ready for the average user, but I still have some complains. It's better than my mac anyway
Must destroy Windows, must make Linux the default OS.
FYI on macOS you can use Asahi Linux to run Linux natively on Apple Silicon Macs
hi Muta 🖐 🖐 thank you for getting me into the yakuza series
I was working with Linux every now and then since the dawn of Windows 10. But didn't actually make the full transition, because of some issues.
After Microsoft dropped the ball with Recall, I finally made the (almost) full switch onto Manjaro. And due to new developments in the Linux space (such like pipewire and proton) a lot of my problems with Linux are fixed now. I am a very happy Linux user now.
There's one last piece of software that keeps me from ditching windows completely. But that issue will be fixed very soon too.
People seem to shit on Manjaro a lot. But so far it has been a flawless experience. I love having a semi-rolling Arch distro.
Have you tried CachyOS?
Manjaro will be bringing opt-out telemetry soon... you might have to change.
try endeavour, manjaro is the old days
Whats the point in switching to linux?
Maybe if windows starts doing some stupid shit like throwing ads randomly on our screen or take our data and sell it trough ai,but until then it feels like changing to linux is more of a hassle than a need.
It makes sense that people that are into tech,programming and similar would enjoy linux but for a random dude on the internet that is just browsing the net and playing some games its just pointless.
People have been saying for a decade that MS should be worried. MS isn't worried.Why?
Because most of Ms revenue doesn't come from Windows, it comes from their Cloud Services and Software Products. They still have a strong grip in the business word, especially since they offer full device management to Windows devices.
Your home user isn't their demographic. But even if you look at gamers, there are still a lot of compatability issues with games, particularly with anticheat in competitive games.
My main issue with linux is the absurd usage of the commsnd line. I'm not turbo nerd enough to understand the command line, and 9/10 times you look sonething up online, it uses the command line, and it's spooky to me. I need more GUIs.
Use Mint instead of Arch
I feel you
and half the time when you try to do what they say in the command line it doesn't work anyway XD
@fuehwbdb3765 As a person currently using Mint, it definitely doesn't solve the need to use a terminal.
If you encounter an issue or want to do something more specific, all information online is using a terminal. While that is because commands are more consistent than GUI, it's still can be pretty annoying.
You don't need that any more.
I get your point but providing a list of commands instead of a bunch of screenshots is much easier to make and use if you have an extremely basic understanding of the terminal and is much more consistent on different systems because of the different desktop environments on linux
Easy Anticheat is not only thing preventing some games to run on linux. There are others having problem too, or... causing players getting banned.
Also there is a lot, and I mean A LOT of older users that have problems moving from XP to W7/10/11. Getting them on linux would be like 2nd job running 24x7 on call support.
Okay, so 7-8 minutes in- the video game you showed. Sir, explain to me why humans haven’t created games/VR that are ultra photorealistic and controlled by these modern AIs using Local/Cloud LLMs. I can’t understand Human Logics.
1 minute ago and the porn bots are already here
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Don't let them win
Sometimes they came in first before u.
I never had my own pc, i was always playing on xbox from 360. Recently i started becoming so fed up with Microshart and google(youtube).
So i decided to build my own pc, installed linux mint, microsoft and google will not touch my system.
Im currently trying to figure out VirtualBox, to use microsoft for certain games and also autocad and riscan for work(topographic surveying,gps, and scanning). Im a complete noob that was fed up and now im learning linux. Microsoft is the best advertising for switching to Linux.
Congrats on rejecting something you started to hate! I've seen so many people just accept dissatisfaction as a part of life, even outside of the tech sphere.
My advice: instead of VirtualBox, try Lutris or Bottles for gaming. Or if you bought the game through Steam, click Steam (top left)>Settings>Compatibility>"Enable Steam Play for all other titles," which will let me run nearly all of my games without issue. God help you if it's an anticheat problem though.
How did I miss this channel !!
0:19 mac os is good when it works
If you don't game at all then OSX is perfect.
thats true! I use both windows and mac os and i unfortunately prefer mac os. But i game on windows
@@zipzopbeesopdro Literally the same. I only use Windows for gaming.
@@zipzopbeesopdro I think if Apple Tried to do what Valve is doing to Support Games (Maybe team up with steam to make it happen) Then they would eat into Microsofts market more.
@ true true
Thank you for making this video Muta! That Arch Linux installer is amazing news to me. This is the opportunity I've been waiting on to really try out Arch Linux.