The only time I didn't like Yukari was when the group went to Port Island outskirts and egged those tough characters on. Everyone told her to shut up and she still went on and didn't care about the consequences until Junpei got hurt.
she is still a teenager after all. Definitely a teenager moment. Her defiant attitude also kinda makes sense to me considering she doesn't have a stable parental figure in her life
@@VelvetAura Her being a teen isn't an excuse for making an already dangerous situation even worth with her ego and bad mouth, which would've gotten her and MC hurt and already got Junpei hurt before Shinji stepped in. Neither is her home life. What she did was just plain stupid.
To clarify one thing if anyone miss it in the game it is said that Yukari and Junpei have been in the same class since they were young so that kind of banter can be expected given their characters.
I’m not sure about Reload, but I know in the original, she was more nasty than Junpei and I don’t recall him being the same way. I do get what you mean, I definitely see it in Ann and Ryuji in Persona 5, but I do know Yukari is pretty vicious when she says things (at least in the original, she seems more calm in P3Reload, I haven’t finished it yet). Yosuke and Morgana to me have that same issue, but worse, (Yosuke literally asking if Kanji would S.A. him and Yu in the tent, which he never would do while Yosuke the next day has swimsuits on hand for the girls, which is creepy as shit and Morgana calls Ryuji stupid for 90% of the game and then gets butthurt at being called worthless and only shuts his ass up about Ryuji when he almost dies saving all the main characters, who in return beat him up). Persona has a big issue with not making the characters have growth in their stories.
One of the things that threw me for a loop my first time playing p3, is when it’s December and everyone’s freaking out because they might die and Yukari says “what’s wrong? Are you scared?” Like NO SHIT. Looking back, I see it as a character trait that she has, to tease people even when it seems inappropriate. I don’t know if that makes sense or not.
@@yaboichris1247 Yep, I completely forgot about that moment. I actually remembered it when I rewatched the video when IT WAS DONE 😭😭 But yeah that’s when her teasing and “hating” on Junpei was getting too far.
@@nerogoro She immediately apologizes and she also protects Makoto when Junpei started to lay blame on him so her kindness is clear👌. I find this very normal cause as a teen I also used to do dumb stuff like that.
I do think she likes junpei. She just doesn't like his flirty nature and the fact he's lazy but she does see him as a friend. Her being happy for him if you decide to bring chidori back is proof of that. I guess you could call them frenemies.
@@ElTioPental Yukari and Junpei honestly reminds me a lot of my own relationship with my big brother and a lot of friends. just playful ribbing between friends who know each other well enough to know it's all in good fun and there's no real insult or malice behind the barbs. It's not really a matter of love or hate, just two friends who've known each other for years doing a bit.
If you want a truly controvertial character there is akechi... like many people hate yukateca, and many others love her, but the fact that is she is well written isn't denied really, the debate is wether she is annoying or not.
"Annoying"? Anymore annoying than Junpei's immaturity? Fuuka's passivity? Mitsuru's naivety? Akihiko's single-mindedness? Ken's hypocrisy? Shinjiro's low self esteem? They're character flaws, I miss the part were those are meant to be seen as anything apart from weaknesses. Many of those same people will also complain about characters without overly pronounced flaws, and dub them "boring". So making a multifaceted, flawed character of interest? Egregious offense. Making a character without so noticeably glaring flaws? Boring, and also an egregious offense. The "debate" as you put it, are mostly hypocrites who have about as much understanding of literature as they do the world outside their nations' borders....VERY little. Here's the point, one type of character asks the player to think much more carefully than the other, and instead of looking at the greater picture, looking at the why "X" "Y" and/or "Z" happened as any logical person would. They turn their brains off. So how is anyone suppose to take them seriously outside of the context that these might very well be the ones the writers listen to?
@@Ninja07Keaton i'm not saying that her being annoying is bad, that is the point, she is agresive and annoying in the beginning and stops being so in the end of the game. I'm just saying that the main debate is wether or not she is and is why she is "controvertial". To me, being annoying doesn't make a character controvertial in any way.
I actually hated how they watered down the escalation on the Answer... The original She was very antagonistic about the party members who dont agree with her displaying how desperate she was to go back to the past which made sense for the conflict, but in Reload she just decides "Nah fuck this, imma just take your key" and breaks down after she's lost
You forgot the part where in the original Persona 3 FES the Answer where Yukari tried to kill Aigis. So they explained to the group that without her key Aigis would potentially die and in front of everyone after Aigis won all the keys, she tries to yank them away from Aigis. I mean I really doubt she could have actually pri them off of Aigis’ mechanical hands but it is something to note.
@@BasementDweller_ Metis never detailed HOW Aigis would lose her life by losing her key during the debate. She kinda just yelled at her and put her head down for 5 seconds keeping that detail for herself for some odd reason and in Reload that detail comes way after the fight takes place. So to Yukari her goal doesn't change her situation, in both versions she gains no info.
I already knew that there was more to yukari when she was the one sitting by your side when you woke up in the hospital and opened up to you. I wish she would be a bit nicer to junpei though. I'm super close to finishing fes, but i also started playing reload. Lord forgive me.
Honestly, in Reload, Yukari is way nicer than the original game. I think part of it is Michelle Ruff’s voice (she also voiced Sadayo Kawakami) being really harsh sounding, but she was also really and unnecessarily aggressive sounding when she said things. Ryuji and Ann had similar rapport, but you can tell it’s very even where in the original, it was really one sided and felt a bit rude, especially because you can’t say anything about it. Actually, since Yukari uses wind, she’s actually in the Wind Hater’s Club, which also features Yosuke and Morgana. Like Yukari in the original, all three have really disrespectful rapport with the side character’s first friend, who is usually the less smart and comic relief sidekick to the main character, Junpei and Ryuji, and the lovable Himbo, Kanji. Morgana and Yukari (in the original, I haven’t finished Reload) call Junpei and Ryuji stupid like 80% of their games, despite they really aren’t that dumb/are equally as dumb as other playable characters, and Yosuke is just vile to Kanji, who never really threatens nobody, treats anyone in the group with kindness, sticks up for any of the main characters, and genuinely wants to be better (Ryuji as well); I mean, Yosuke even implies that Kanji is going to S.A. him and Yu with no proof, and the next day has swimsuits for the girls on hand, unplanned and Chie literally calls him out for it, which is creepy AF. And I could forgive the Wind Hater’s club if they apologize for their actions (they are flawed characters, that’s how stories work, they grow), but they never do (actually Ryuji has to apologize to bitchy Morgana for calling him worthless one time and it’s obviously that Ryuji didn’t mean it intentionally, where Morgana literally calls Ryuji stupid at least in each palace and 10,000 more times in the real world). I think that’s why she’s not the most beloved character, but I think she might have apologized in both, I don’t really know. But Yosuke and Morgana are assholes through and through.
2:22 there’s actually fourth lovers arcana character, Lisa Silverman (from Persona 2)! you should look into her character, she’s my personal favorite (with yukari being second of course)
man the only thing I hated about yukari is how much she hated on junpei like relax still one of the most well written characters and materials saver with basically full party heal for 2-4-11 sp
@@maxmelee1145There's a difference between hate and brotherly-sisterly classmate banter. It's not really any different to the other group dynamics in Persona like Chie to Yosuke or Ann to Ryuji but I guess Yukari gets singled out because she has more defined reasons and a built-up dynamic before the game even started.
@@maxmelee1145 I mean she doesn’t genuinely hate him though 😭 It’s like the same dynamic with Chie with Yosuke and Ann with Ryuji and Yusuke with Futaba 😭
I've warmed up alot to Yukari over the years. She still has her moments of being "hard to get along with" to put it nicely, but the way she's written is realistic and this goes for the others, All the characters in P3 are flawed but very human. Junpei is my favourite character in the game and my favourite best friend in the series. Yukari is actually very sweet, she just has a rare disease called "junpei derangement syndrome" that I pray she can find a cure for one day.
I feel like the most controversial character. Is actually just the female main character for portable I mean...... You don't get much... more controversial than that
@DynoSkrimisher yeah, you can play as a female main character in persona, 3 portable. In fact, instead of getting the female part of sees as social links, you get to have the male members of SEES as social links. Including the amazing Koro-chan
@@Jamie_black it's not a problem with the character if you think about it for 2 seconds, yes it's messed up that Ken is a romance option, but it's not the character's fault (btw I may be wrong but isn't there a way of completing his social link without romancing him?)
I think the only Yukari moment I hated most was the one in the Yakushima trip where you have to go and make sure she's fine after discovering her dad was involved in the creation of the dark hour. It's understandable when she ran off after such harsh revelation, but the only part I didn't really understand well was when she ends up blowing up at the protagonist when he/she wants to comfort her, and then yells that he/she doesn't know her. Like girl, the MC just wanted to make sure you don't end up hurting yourself any further, and mainly so that you weren't outside when the dark hour happened (which is what happens in the movies, but the part where she gets angry at the MC was omitted, so there's that). I guess that happen because she still had to let out those expressions after what happened, only that the one that had to receive that was the poor MC lol. Thankfully, after that happens she figures what happened and apologizes to the protagonist. Apart from that, I don't really hate her, it's just that she ends up being one of the characters that develops a lot more than the others, even when The Answer happens (compared to others there, like Ken and Junpei, who have already developed in character quite a bit before), and IIRC when P4A:U happens she's finally a more reasonable girl, with all the character development she had accompaning her (compared to Akihiko, who uuh is the SEES member that forgot he had character development and is even more hotheaded and rash than he was in P3 lol).
You know, I'm kinda like Yukari, not only because my mother died when I was 12 but because I also want Makoto back, I cannot accept his death. I wanted to spend more time with all of these characters...
I absolutely HATED Yukari all throughout p3reload. I really wanted to give her a chance, but man, sometimes Junpei was just chilling and out of nowhere Yukari would go and be MEAN. Like a BULLY. I swear, if Yukari and Junpei were genderswapped istg people would cancel her IMMEDIATELY. I think she's well written as a character, but she didn't have to be so F mean. Gosh. Obnoxious.
She was worse in the original game. Her character seriously was a deviation from what she was supposed to be. Reload, at least, made her kinder, like she was originally supposed to be. Her bitchiness was a byproduct of bad localization in the original game. Yukari in Reload is downright adorable, and her warm, loving nature is shown more in the linked episodes where she becomes determined to cook the MC a delicious meal, and the beach scene where you're given the option to hug her, and she reciprocates the hug.
Uhm... dude 90% of the time Junpei either says something Pervy or so dumb that any friend would roast the fuck out of you. You mention genderswapping but funnily enough I feel that if Yukari wasn't a pretty young woman and was instead a man people wouldn't care nearly as much.
I love the picture you either did or had comidioned of the main character and junpi and yukari in the car because it sums things up perfectly our boy just trying to hangout with his friends only for them to make it like one of the worst times possible
That one ace defective clip where Yukari says "that" word exists because it was actually a line said by her voice actress in a hentai. Or so I've heard.
Wait, like actual Michelle Ruff (her English VA for every appearance up until Reload when they recast all the main characters)? She was in a hentai??? Where did you hear this info? The internet must investigate...
i played through portable as Kotone and well lets just say Junpei was first a normal guy i didn't think much of him but when he joins the sees group he is a bit of a jackass for a few months it had gotten to the point where Mitsuru had to step in so things didn't escalate further mainly because Junpei assumed the 'Man' aka himself should be the leader instead of a girl he does get better later on but when thats the first impression you get i was fully behind Yukari and her banter
Yeah when Junpei was being jealous about being the “main man” in the team he was a bit insufferable and his treatment towards the MC is uncalled for. That’s why I said that he does deserve some of the “hate” he gets from Yukari
@@nerogoro im stil pretty new to persona only having played 3 games persona 5 royal persona 5 strikers and now persona 3 portable ^^' even though i played through royal 3 times XD
Yukari character was my favourite character from P3R, and I romanced her as soon as I could. It genuinely surprised me when I saw people hating on her.
@@Fatterfixer4385the answer may shock you but it's sexism. My guess is that Yukari acting that way and not the typical anime blush "kyaaa you perv!" Response and a more real "what are you a creep?" Response made them uncomfortable on some level
I haven't play P3Reloaded so everything I'm about to say is based off the original and FES. Yukari isn't the only person the story set up to be disliked, very few people liked Junpei during his jealousy phase of the story. Despite this nearly everyone comes around to at least understanding Junpei if not outright liking him. Yukari in the Answer is different, not because she holds a different view from the rest of the SEES members. IMO the reason for the Yukari hate during the Answer is because she acts like she's the only person who is suffering, or more precisely is the only one allowed to suffer from the MC's death. Regardless of whether she was genuinely the closest to the MC or not when he died, it clearly has an affect on everyone he was close to, especially the other SEES members. She see's the member who want to move forward as a sort of betrayal to him, which can make sense from a teenage girls perspective but she still takes it way too far with her 'none of you are hurting like I am' perspective. It's beyond dismissive and downright egotistical of her, which is ironically what she accuses the others of doing. It's not a crime to be flawed, some of the best Persona characters are flawed characters, it could almost be considered the point. Yukari's problem is that despite what everyone's been through together, she ignores everyone else's grief and pain to play up her own.
I think that's why I liked Yukari's character because when dealing with a massive loss like that, obviously she's going to be more selfish, she's going to be thinking that no one is sharing her pain, she's going to think like she's the only that cared about him. It's a realistic viewpoint because losing someone or something very important to you can mess you up in a lot of ways as I also relate to her a lot. I was also thinking and feeling like that because it's a very hard phase to go through. I don't fault her to be very selfish in that moment, it's a very human thing to do.
Yukari in reload is not the same beast as Yukari in the original P3. Especially in the answer. I understood everything about her, but I just found her very annoying. In reload she's been watered down and... honestly lost her charm in a lot of places cuz of it. Either way, I'm still on team Aegis. Best girl fr
I love Yukari! She was probably the most relatable character for me personally, as I have a similar family experience/dynamic. I understood her banter with Junpei as affection, agreed with her reasons to have doubts about how/why SEES was operating and respected her steadfast focus on seeing their mission through. She was also the first to express concern about how Makoto was being spied on by SEES and oblivious to their motives. She knew who she was, what she stood for and wasn’t to be messed with. A queen. ✨ I can understand why people would be annoyed with her decision/feelings in Episode Aigis but tbh I just felt that it made her character all the more realistic. She was devastated and clearly no one was catching on. I can’t blame her for behaving the way she did. Hats off to the writers for writing a well balanced character. At least in my book! Haters gonna hate.
Still watching the vid, but thank you for covering Yukari! Me personally, she is the one of the best characters in the Persona series! Especially on the answer episodes (both FES and RELOAD!) Loved all of her versions!
Honestly I love her whole character, that includes her flaws and boy does she have many. The first time I got reversed in her SL, it clicks to me that she's not just an average NPC made just to like the MC and everything's happy ever after. She's a character that have so much troubles and much angst that she don't know what to do, she's a real teenage girl in a series filled with nothing but high schoolers. One thing that bothers me in Persona SL/Confidant is that everyone is happy dandy with the MC, the troubles they got almost always from external factors. So far only Yukari have unique trait in that she's the only one that her character herself the caused of the drama in the SL with real consequences. And for that I respect her, even in The Answer since her one defining emotions for door-kun situation was pain of denial. She's high above among Persona cast IMO.
Yes, she misses her shots a lot in P3FES. But because she uses a ranged weapon, her misses don't cause her to fall down and become vulnerable. Still, she's only really good for healing, which MC can take up due to being an MC, and Wind element, which again, MC has it covered.
I didn't know how she is before playing any Persona game, but the moment I saw her (design wise) the first time I said: "She's... Perfect.* Then after I saw how she is (counting the twisted memes) I said: "She's my other half." I'm somewhat of an apathetic antisocial psychopath, emphasis on the last word as Yukari "apparently" was somewhat of it in og Persona 3. (Although it's probably just another shitty joke.)
15:29 Pfft- what the hell is this?! I thought we were talking about Yukari, this sounds more like a Total Drama character! Like, I get why some people see Yukari as this, but she's usually never this venomous or mean by default, folks.
Nah seriously bro, she's just joking. She honestly cares for her friends and also junpei, i think she just dont know how to express her feelings other than joking or teasing on him. You went on too deep into a hateful character while she is just that teasing strong willed girl, while i know that her comment on the whole "you scared ?" Was too much but again it strengthen my point where i said that she is too blunt and doesn't know how to express her feeling, she is just blunt, and this moment just showed that yukari is very honest, blunt and strong willed, she was scared too btw she just made her think to herself she wasnt, great character btw like every others.
Yeah I know she’s joking. I was joking too when I said that she’s a hater 😭 I never legitimately thought that Yukari genuinely hates Junpei or anything like that
I think shes a good character because she can generate these debates simply because she shows normal, flawed, human behaviors. Some people will like her, some will despise her depending on their personal experiences. For example, I think Yukari is absolutely unbearable, she snaps at everything, is demeaning, she reacts before thinking, yes she does attack Junpei a lot, but Junpei is also a jealous, pompous, sometimes double faced jackass. They contrast really well with the stand up characters of the cast but that have other issues. At the end of the day, they are all in the process of becoming better versions of themselves and thats what matters, I only wish they could actually show their personal progress and I think P4 did this much better.
@@Hemestal That’s good to hear. I understand that she can be demeaning and is prone to snap at everything, but I think that’s a reason why, for me personally, she’s a realistic character because a lot of teenage girls in real life do those things and are prone to do those things too 😭 Growing up throughout high school made me realized how insufferable girls can be in high school and since Yukari acted like them, for some reason it just adds a layer of relatability for me towards Yukari.
17:50 as for this part, yeah, it's a bit though how things like social media and the opinions of some people can really influence others in terms of what they like. Even that happened to me, so as for now I've started at trying to form my own opinions and likes, and not really base them or get them influenced from the opinions of others. I still have ways to go, but it's there.
The only thing I have to argue with is that she really does just hate Junpei, to a bizarre extreme. Also, having played Portable, her weapon accuracy is indeed pretty bad, to the point that even Yukari acknowledges it, but it's a trade-off for not stumbling when she misses. At least her spell accuracy is reliable.
Hot take: a huge part of her controversial status comes from misogyny. Complex, human, well-written female characters get a lot of shit compared to their male counterparts The worst example in recent years is the discourse around Fire Emblem Three Houses (Fire Emblem fans don't deserve complex characters. Well, neither do Persona's). There's also Skyler in Breaking Bad being hated when she is one of the only real person in the show
Are her controversies driven from misogyny? I don't really think so because it's understandable that people might find her annoying due to her personality and The Answer, and if those things were to be put in a male character per se, they would probably have the same reactions. Yes, obviously there are misogynists out there that finally can make their point when Yukari acted unlikable, but I don't think that's a really huge part of it.
@nerogoro Well I've seen many instances where flawed male characters got people's sympathy and understanding in moments of doubts and tensions compared to their female counterparts, or female characters getting hated for things that aren't a big deal at all For example the "Junpei Ace Defective" scene I mean c'mon even the best siblings/friends/coworkers banter like this all the time
@@nerogoro Indeed. And the Yukari defenders who call those who don't like her "virgin incels who can't get laid" are misandrists. Because it has nothing to do with attracting women. It's more how she comes across that rubs plenty of fans the wrong way. Honestly, the Yukari defenders who make these arguments are just as bad as those "Virgin neckbearded incels" they claim to hate.
Although she was written well in Episode Aigis, the things she said to Aigis went a bit too far. It's no surprise that Aigis is the second most popular character in the series only beaten by Joker, and everyone knows that attack is our favorite toaster Enemy #1, what makes this even worse is that it happens in a game called episode AIGIS so your eyes and ears are 100% focused on Aigis's story. Side note: I would love to have more spin-offs or expansions that are about specific characters, I happen to be playing Persona 4 dancing and I like that we learn more about rise
I think people cared less about Aigis for that to be the case than caring more about the fact that they had to sit there in The Answer suffering through grueling grinding just to get rewarded with Yukari sass. Still a pretty dumb reason to hate her but I get it.
@@Shadow-Joop-157 Yeah, I do agree that how she treated Aigis was uncalled for. But for me personally, it was quite realistic because I did go through of losing someone special and for a while I started treating friends and family like how Yukari treated Aigis. That’s why I said that Yukari is the most realistic because I can relate to her a lot in a personal level.
I had no issues with her up until the hotel slap sceen. I always hated the trope in anime of a female character slapping/abusing the main character as a joke or gag for something completely out of their control. Both of them fell victim to the mirrors influence so it felt uncalled for and really turned me off. Especially since I've delt with a women in a previous relationship of mine where she felt it was okay to push me whenever she got angry with me so that scene just kinda made all those bad times come flooding back. I understand that she apparently apologizes for it if you talk to her after the fact but for me personally, situations like that I handle the same way as you normally would if someone cheated on you. Once you've felt comfortable enough to put your hands on me in ANY way that isn't loving, or intended to harm me, we're done. Any feelings I had for you instantly die, this applies to friends as well. Otherwise, I thought she was completely fine. I had no issues with her other than that.
I think the title of the video fits nanto or kanji more since weirdos on Twitter swear up and down those two are gay and trans when they clearly aren't nor does the story imply that to be the case its just head canon
Yeah, a lot of people nowadays especially on Twitter they have 0 media literacy at all 😭🙏 But I think in most like RUclips, TikTok, Instagram, and Twitter a lot of people are like making out characters like Joker and Akechi gay for each other, Naoto being like trans/androgynous, Kanji and Yosuke being gay, Yukari and Mitsuru to be lesbians which is really weird because they are not those things at all. People somehow and someway failed to see like the actual development these characters go through and their true nature as well. Probably because they’re projecting themselves into these characters and are pushing their headcanons and delusions way too far.
@nerogoro exactly i mean head cannon is fine and all but if you're going to be a insufferable twat about it keep that shit to yourself it's people like that makes a remake of persona 4 worrying for me
i did not even know any of this , And i'm kinda like wut X"D I never really played the og P3 tried to and failed but i find this kinda funny especially how time goes on , Especially the banter between Yukari and Junpei , it reminded me of when i was still a teen , Friends would insult you not because they hate you or anything but as friendly banter , But then there is Junpei actively being a dumbass from time to time. I didnt realize we were going into the dlc and hadn't touched that yet but thats fine, The awnser seems really confusing to me cause why would people hate on her for that. there is so much media out there where a character would want to go back to save a loved one. Heck Yukari is fucking based for it. There are so many people who would choose a path like that. I Like character progression and stories like that. The biggest thing i think i learned was that certain things have aged badly over time. characters and other things don't fly now a days anymore for multiple reasons. i learn this alot while just going through older media in general. that being said . Yukari was my waifu pick aswell ! I related to her struggles , I related to her fears her growth and everything. Great video , got informed about things i didnt know hahaha.
Yeah, I think according to people The Answer in the original Persona 3, Yukari was way more "worse" than how she acted in Persona 3 Reload. Even then, it's understandable on how she acted no matter on what scale.
Tbh, had similar experience it was like, yeah, she can be a romance here, she's cool. But to be honest, I haven't touched the internet regarding persona until I finished. She is annoying with her hating on junpei. She literally blames him for "skipping" the mission because HE WAS KIDNAPPED. She started as a very girly character, but she is written as that popular girl that will be an asshole if she wants to. Maybe someone will not care, for me it was insufferable and crossed her out. At least her heals were great. I don't care about the whole twitter dramas regarding characters, as I don't care for twitter in the first place, but if you are seeing the interactions of her with the rest. She is just an annoying person to deal with.
People point out Yukari hating on Junpei but conveniently leave out that he either said something Pervy to get accosted or just something so stupid that any good friend would call you a dumb ass. Honestly, I think part of its just that Yukari's a girl
I feel like a lot of these problem kinda stem from new players coming into the series , like how a lot of normie coming into anime during the lock down and then proceed to binge through it , shallowly . It's like a growing pain ? just a phase , it will pass .
I think you are missing the point. When the game came out and around FES, you had fans that really didn't like her. Her attacks DID often miss, her mag/atk was around average to less than average and if you experiment with the arcana, you can very easily screw yourself over with a mostly less than average and borderline weak Yukari, who's only role is healing. Her selfish motive looked worse when it was put aside Misaru. Even though they want the same thing Misaru's goal was way above Yukari. If it wasn't for the anime, she would have probably been wholehearted hated across the board. But Reloaded happen. Reloaded fixed all her battle problems. With all the problems fix, Yukari as a character shown more. This is where Twitter ban wagons spotted her. Yukari "hate" now isn't like it was 18y ago. The "hate" she gets now is from an impressionist spot. The accusers (most of which are just posers) are super imposing themselves onto Yukari. Placing Yukari as a shield for their questionable actions and takes. I would say she isn't even hated anymore thanks to Reload and Persona Q. Truthfully the "weirdness" you see from her reputation is due to posers that most likely never finished the game, nor even played the series, saw a popular character and bandwagon onto the first moron that said something. She isn't the only one to suffer from this. This was done with a multitude of others [My hero academia, little witch academia, Goblin Slayer, Demon Slayer, Dragon Ball series, Sailor Moon, now Ranma etc.]. My advice is don't go to twitter. They are locust. The true opinion is from the fans, that can be found on fan sites, message boards, or polls.
2:04 nah Mimi is literally just a copy of yukari idk why this triggers me even as a DANDANDAN fan it’s the other way around Yukari was before Momo If Anything Momo Literally stole Yukari whole flow lol
You can't take what people say on twitter or reddit seriously - there's a lot of people with genuine mental illness, or people that are just young and want to be edgy on the internet. Yukari is a good character and like you concluded, I don't think she hates Junpei, I actually think they get along and understand each other pretty well. Yukari is like the number 2 popular girl in the school next to Mitsuru, so for Yukari to even talk to Junpei basically proves she doesn't hate him, as when you're popular talking to a loser can be seen as a detriment to your social credit. Yukari thinks Junpei is a slacker on his studies, so she insults him for it, but she knows the other students like Junpei because he's a nice guy, so she doesn't treat him like a loser and IGNORE him. I would think Yukari insults Junpei to keep their friendship from advancing into something more because what do you think would happen if she complimented him instead? Junpei would for sure catch feelings. Junpei always calls her "Yuka-tan" which is his friendly way of flirting with the second most sought after girl in the school. He acts cute with her. I would argue their dynamic is much deeper then the dialogue options you make the MC say, and they're a much better match the MC+Yukari, but the game is pandering to an immature "I won all the girls" kind of fantasy. I especially always saw it as a next level of home wrecker when cucking Akihiko by dating MItsuru :')
I don't think you can actually "cuck" Akihiko since he and Mitsuru aren't dating. Even if you don't date Mitsuru and ask her if she and Akihiko are dating, she says that Akihiko is just a friend and Akihiko says the same thing in the dancing game. In the P4A where they're both adults they're still close friends but not romantically involved. I think their relationship is somewhat similar to Yukari and Junpei's, just with less banter.
I think you are overthinking it. Yukari was written to have low self esteem. Yes, she does have looks, but she is constantly battling with feeling low self worth and learned helplessness. Junpei tries to be friendly but he steps on her toes constantly by using baby talk like calling her Yukari-Tan. For someone with such deep rooted issues, being talked at like that can feel demeaning and reductive and of course, that person will snap at you, be passive aggresive or even lash out if they don't talk it over.
Maybe I am just out of touch, but people calling Yukari racist is a new one for me. I like Yukari as a character, although at first when I played P3 (FES) I didn't initially. She isn't nice and isn't the most pleasant to be around, but her behavior makes sense the more you get to know her throughout her social link and the game. She has a lot of loneliness and mistrust that causes her to be defensive and push people away. We see character growth with her, and sometimes there feels like setbacks. She feels like a more fleshed out character then many video game characters out there, and her internal struggles fit the theme of Persona. Also, I never thought she hated Junpei. She certainly gets annoyed by him and sees him as immature and irresponsible often, but I've had the impression that she was teasing him more in line of "affirmative teasing", that meaning it signals some level of comfort from someone who otherwise wouldn't tease others or a way of affirming him and her way of showing affection rather than out of a place of malice. Since she has often lived in a defensive nature with most people this may be a way of her using teasing as a coping mechanism to show closeness while also feeling a sense of control over the relationship. (IMO, I am not a psychologist). I think a lot of people have been quick to judge her, and while I respect that there are people who don't like her I think it's unfortunate when they just see her on the surface level and don't look at more of her character development that explains the way she is. I also think by the time we see her in P4AU she's come a long way in her self-confidence and her teasing of Junpei is more clearly from a place of friendship. Also I think how Yukari and Junpei use honorifics reflect how they feel about eachother. Yukari uses -kun with his given name which shows at least a baseline respect and friendliness or familiarairty, even though they constantly bicker. If she didn't like him she'd probably omit honorifics. Junpei uses the -tan honorific which implies he views her with a level of friendliness, playfulness, and teasing familiarity. I don't think Junpei would call her Yuka-tan, also using a nickname, if he didn't feel some positive feelings and closeness with her. If he really felt she was being cruel to him he likely would be more distant in how he addressed her such as "Iori-san". Such as how we see Mitsuru often addressing many other characters by their family name to keep a more formal and distant salutation, at least at first.
Yukari did in fact say something very homophobic in the original P3 (it was a different time back then, & was probably a choice made by the translators) but it has been fixed and yet that one decision continues to haunt this character even after it was corrected (the internet never forgets… for better or in this case, for worse).
@@DynamiteRyper I've played all 3 reload, fes and portable all in japanese version. I don't recall she ever said something even remotely offensive, it might be a translation issue.
@@SolidSnake240 She IS like a typical HS girl 😭😭 I mean her being “controversial” is debatable and that’s why I made this video for discussions and such.
If Yukari has only one fan then that is me. If Yukari has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against Yukari, then I am against the world
I'm near the end of Persona3R and Yukari has been invaluable. She's clearly the White Mage type and has some similarities to Rosa (FF4). Seeing as I haven't played the Answer yet I skipped that section. Overall, she has been one of the more identifiable characters in the game for me and while she does have a bit of a mean streak, (particularly against my favorite bench warmer Junpei) it doesn't seem overly malicious. It is just that she knows him well and is just used to his antics and has a quick wit to deal with them.
I was not a fan at all of Yukari back when i played p3 portable and even though i like her a bit more in reload (mostly because of the redesign, she is cuter now) she is still not my cup of tea... but saying she is a racist its a very unfair stretch
Yukari was a true definition of selfishness in the answer and the original game. Mind you, the only reason mitsuru teamed up with her was because she didn't want yukari to be alone since she was the one who helped her cope and get back on her feet. I get why she wants him back since makoto was the only one who could relate to her and, at the same time, had feelings for him. So I do get why she was jealous of aigis. I know some people don't like the changes in the answer, but I honestly think they handled it better than the original. I may not have played the original, but I have seen others play it and watch videos of the original. I'll be honest I didn't like Yukari in the original game as far as the aigis chapter. Mostly because of the way she treated aigis. She crossed the line a few times and granted I get it. She was emotional, and she was jealous, and bitterness got the best of her. She was the only character whose personality was different. That fact that atlus had to change that entire scene, whether it was good or bad, really showed how hated yukari was. It was basically damaged control. I don't hate it, but I was disappointed with how she was acting, but it was understandable.
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The only time I didn't like Yukari was when the group went to Port Island outskirts and egged those tough characters on. Everyone told her to shut up and she still went on and didn't care about the consequences until Junpei got hurt.
Yeah… she does have moments like that 😭
she is still a teenager after all. Definitely a teenager moment. Her defiant attitude also kinda makes sense to me considering she doesn't have a stable parental figure in her life
@@VelvetAuraYeah but it should be clear when you’re in danger. It’s common sense, Yukari was just being stupid in that moment
Yukari lacks common sense but she can 100% be caring and kind deep down when push comes to shove
Just like me fr
@@VelvetAura
Her being a teen isn't an excuse for making an already dangerous situation even worth with her ego and bad mouth, which would've gotten her and MC hurt and already got Junpei hurt before Shinji stepped in. Neither is her home life. What she did was just plain stupid.
Yukari Takeba they could never make me hate you
Facts
To clarify one thing if anyone miss it in the game it is said that Yukari and Junpei have been in the same class since they were young so that kind of banter can be expected given their characters.
So that perfectly warrants the one-sided disrespect.
I’m not sure about Reload, but I know in the original, she was more nasty than Junpei and I don’t recall him being the same way. I do get what you mean, I definitely see it in Ann and Ryuji in Persona 5, but I do know Yukari is pretty vicious when she says things (at least in the original, she seems more calm in P3Reload, I haven’t finished it yet).
Yosuke and Morgana to me have that same issue, but worse, (Yosuke literally asking if Kanji would S.A. him and Yu in the tent, which he never would do while Yosuke the next day has swimsuits on hand for the girls, which is creepy as shit and Morgana calls Ryuji stupid for 90% of the game and then gets butthurt at being called worthless and only shuts his ass up about Ryuji when he almost dies saving all the main characters, who in return beat him up). Persona has a big issue with not making the characters have growth in their stories.
Based Yukari still causing people to seethe to this day
Yukari does what Yukari does best 🙏
And that’s why after I get akihiko and mitsuru, she stays on the bench
@@shonenking3948 Good for you, she's a permanent member of my team.
@@ShadowOfMassDestruction I’m sorry for your losses 😂
@@shonenking3948 loss? She is one of the strongest character in the game, what are you talking about 😂😂
One of the things that threw me for a loop my first time playing p3, is when it’s December and everyone’s freaking out because they might die and Yukari says “what’s wrong? Are you scared?” Like NO SHIT.
Looking back, I see it as a character trait that she has, to tease people even when it seems inappropriate.
I don’t know if that makes sense or not.
No it does, in some cases she lacks social awareness at times when it's THE most important
@ glad I was able to come across well.
@@yaboichris1247 Yep, I completely forgot about that moment. I actually remembered it when I rewatched the video when IT WAS DONE 😭😭 But yeah that’s when her teasing and “hating” on Junpei was getting too far.
@@nerogoro She immediately apologizes and she also protects Makoto when Junpei started to lay blame on him so her kindness is clear👌. I find this very normal cause as a teen I also used to do dumb stuff like that.
@@nerogoro Nah I personally think Elizabeth is the canon pairing for Makoto
She doesn’t hate junepei she loves junepei just treats him like a brother 😭
the classic annoying older/younger brother i don't know who is older and who is younger though
i dont know mate, if someone tells me if prefer to be perpetually alone or receive this type of love... eternal loneliness doesnt sound so bad🤣
Yeah leave it to persona fans to just misunderstand the situation man. No worries.
I do think she likes junpei. She just doesn't like his flirty nature and the fact he's lazy but she does see him as a friend. Her being happy for him if you decide to bring chidori back is proof of that. I guess you could call them frenemies.
@@ElTioPental Yukari and Junpei honestly reminds me a lot of my own relationship with my big brother and a lot of friends. just playful ribbing between friends who know each other well enough to know it's all in good fun and there's no real insult or malice behind the barbs. It's not really a matter of love or hate, just two friends who've known each other for years doing a bit.
If you want a truly controvertial character there is akechi... like many people hate yukateca, and many others love her, but the fact that is she is well written isn't denied really, the debate is wether she is annoying or not.
"Annoying"? Anymore annoying than Junpei's immaturity? Fuuka's passivity? Mitsuru's naivety? Akihiko's single-mindedness? Ken's hypocrisy? Shinjiro's low self esteem?
They're character flaws, I miss the part were those are meant to be seen as anything apart from weaknesses. Many of those same people will also complain about characters without overly pronounced flaws, and dub them "boring".
So making a multifaceted, flawed character of interest? Egregious offense. Making a character without so noticeably glaring flaws? Boring, and also an egregious offense. The "debate" as you put it, are mostly hypocrites who have about as much understanding of literature as they do the world outside their nations' borders....VERY little. Here's the point, one type of character asks the player to think much more carefully than the other, and instead of looking at the greater picture, looking at the why "X" "Y" and/or "Z" happened as any logical person would. They turn their brains off. So how is anyone suppose to take them seriously outside of the context that these might very well be the ones the writers listen to?
Akechi is funny because him being controversial seems to be mainly pockets of the western fandom. The east loves him.
@@Ninja07Keaton i'm not saying that her being annoying is bad, that is the point, she is agresive and annoying in the beginning and stops being so in the end of the game. I'm just saying that the main debate is wether or not she is and is why she is "controvertial". To me, being annoying doesn't make a character controvertial in any way.
@@Ninja07Keaton True
@@DigitalStarrymaybe because akechi is the goddamn light yagami
I actually hated how they watered down the escalation on the Answer... The original She was very antagonistic about the party members who dont agree with her displaying how desperate she was to go back to the past which made sense for the conflict, but in Reload she just decides "Nah fuck this, imma just take your key" and breaks down after she's lost
You forgot the part where in the original Persona 3 FES the Answer where Yukari tried to kill Aigis. So they explained to the group that without her key Aigis would potentially die and in front of everyone after Aigis won all the keys, she tries to yank them away from Aigis. I mean I really doubt she could have actually pri them off of Aigis’ mechanical hands but it is something to note.
@@BasementDweller_ Really? Damn, Yukari in the old game was really not playing around 😭
I mean, good luck trying to physically overpower a robot as a young woman
@@BasementDweller_ Metis never detailed HOW Aigis would lose her life by losing her key during the debate. She kinda just yelled at her and put her head down for 5 seconds keeping that detail for herself for some odd reason and in Reload that detail comes way after the fight takes place. So to Yukari her goal doesn't change her situation, in both versions she gains no info.
I already knew that there was more to yukari when she was the one sitting by your side when you woke up in the hospital and opened up to you. I wish she would be a bit nicer to junpei though.
I'm super close to finishing fes, but i also started playing reload. Lord forgive me.
@@jumpingmoose5554 Praying for you 🙏 Reload took me 120 hrs to complete and I literally sat down in front of my PC for a week straight 😭
@@nerogoro Yup I cried as well. Beautiful game.
Honestly, in Reload, Yukari is way nicer than the original game. I think part of it is Michelle Ruff’s voice (she also voiced Sadayo Kawakami) being really harsh sounding, but she was also really and unnecessarily aggressive sounding when she said things. Ryuji and Ann had similar rapport, but you can tell it’s very even where in the original, it was really one sided and felt a bit rude, especially because you can’t say anything about it.
Actually, since Yukari uses wind, she’s actually in the Wind Hater’s Club, which also features Yosuke and Morgana. Like Yukari in the original, all three have really disrespectful rapport with the side character’s first friend, who is usually the less smart and comic relief sidekick to the main character, Junpei and Ryuji, and the lovable Himbo, Kanji. Morgana and Yukari (in the original, I haven’t finished Reload) call Junpei and Ryuji stupid like 80% of their games, despite they really aren’t that dumb/are equally as dumb as other playable characters, and Yosuke is just vile to Kanji, who never really threatens nobody, treats anyone in the group with kindness, sticks up for any of the main characters, and genuinely wants to be better (Ryuji as well); I mean, Yosuke even implies that Kanji is going to S.A. him and Yu with no proof, and the next day has swimsuits for the girls on hand, unplanned and Chie literally calls him out for it, which is creepy AF. And I could forgive the Wind Hater’s club if they apologize for their actions (they are flawed characters, that’s how stories work, they grow), but they never do (actually Ryuji has to apologize to bitchy Morgana for calling him worthless one time and it’s obviously that Ryuji didn’t mean it intentionally, where Morgana literally calls Ryuji stupid at least in each palace and 10,000 more times in the real world).
I think that’s why she’s not the most beloved character, but I think she might have apologized in both, I don’t really know. But Yosuke and Morgana are assholes through and through.
2:22 there’s actually fourth lovers arcana character, Lisa Silverman (from Persona 2)! you should look into her character, she’s my personal favorite (with yukari being second of course)
also love the video! yukari hate always seemed like another instance of female characters getting hate for not taking shit from anyone to me
perosna 2 mentioned!
@@wondergirlllisaPoor Ayase from Persona 1...
@@ShadowOfMassDestruction “mean girl” characters who have a big heart will always be top tier
@@wondergirlllisa I've found one of culture.
man the only thing I hated about yukari is how much she hated on junpei like relax
still one of the most well written characters and materials saver with basically full party heal for 2-4-11 sp
That’s completely fair… but you’ve got to admit that the “Stupei Ace Defective” line was hilarious 😂
No she had her reasons, he was creepy and pervy at times
@ShumaiTheDetective yeah no I agree but still she just hates on him every opportunity she gets
Like junpei is just joking around and a bit lazy😔
@@maxmelee1145There's a difference between hate and brotherly-sisterly classmate banter. It's not really any different to the other group dynamics in Persona like Chie to Yosuke or Ann to Ryuji but I guess Yukari gets singled out because she has more defined reasons and a built-up dynamic before the game even started.
@@maxmelee1145 I mean she doesn’t genuinely hate him though 😭 It’s like the same dynamic with Chie with Yosuke and Ann with Ryuji and Yusuke with Futaba 😭
Well, just to know that there's Bebe, a literal French guy in the game
“french people” aren’t real sorry bro 😢🙏
@@nerogoro im here man 😭
@@DaIceberg sorry man 😭🙏
@@DaIceberg BIG BOSS!
no one hears a word they say, has the memory gone, are you feeling numb?
I've warmed up alot to Yukari over the years. She still has her moments of being "hard to get along with" to put it nicely, but the way she's written is realistic and this goes for the others, All the characters in P3 are flawed but very human. Junpei is my favourite character in the game and my favourite best friend in the series. Yukari is actually very sweet, she just has a rare disease called "junpei derangement syndrome" that I pray she can find a cure for one day.
she is the realest character in the series. snowflakes hate her
Real
I feel like the most controversial character.
Is actually just the female main character for portable
I mean......
You don't get much... more controversial than that
There's a female character?
Atlus. Please, just let her be CANON.
@DynoSkrimisher yeah, you can play as a female main character in persona, 3 portable. In fact, instead of getting the female part of sees as social links, you get to have the male members of SEES as social links. Including the amazing Koro-chan
(sigh), is this about Ken
it's about Ken, isn't it
@@MastaGambit what else would it be about?
@@Jamie_black it's not a problem with the character if you think about it for 2 seconds, yes it's messed up that Ken is a romance option, but it's not the character's fault (btw I may be wrong but isn't there a way of completing his social link without romancing him?)
I think the only Yukari moment I hated most was the one in the Yakushima trip where you have to go and make sure she's fine after discovering her dad was involved in the creation of the dark hour. It's understandable when she ran off after such harsh revelation, but the only part I didn't really understand well was when she ends up blowing up at the protagonist when he/she wants to comfort her, and then yells that he/she doesn't know her. Like girl, the MC just wanted to make sure you don't end up hurting yourself any further, and mainly so that you weren't outside when the dark hour happened (which is what happens in the movies, but the part where she gets angry at the MC was omitted, so there's that). I guess that happen because she still had to let out those expressions after what happened, only that the one that had to receive that was the poor MC lol. Thankfully, after that happens she figures what happened and apologizes to the protagonist.
Apart from that, I don't really hate her, it's just that she ends up being one of the characters that develops a lot more than the others, even when The Answer happens (compared to others there, like Ken and Junpei, who have already developed in character quite a bit before), and IIRC when P4A:U happens she's finally a more reasonable girl, with all the character development she had accompaning her (compared to Akihiko, who uuh is the SEES member that forgot he had character development and is even more hotheaded and rash than he was in P3 lol).
You know, I'm kinda like Yukari, not only because my mother died when I was 12 but because I also want Makoto back, I cannot accept his death. I wanted to spend more time with all of these characters...
Yukari’s max accuracy outside of Reload is like 55% (although it feels like she never hits anything).
@@DynamiteRyper 55% is pretty low…😭
@@DynamiteRyper I got really lucky during my FES playthrough's because for me if she's not missing she was criting up a storm lol.
Just buy her a good bow and raise her level. Mine has an acuracy of 9/10.
@ … Max accuracy with ALL of her bows, OUTSIDE of Reload.
I absolutely HATED Yukari all throughout p3reload. I really wanted to give her a chance, but man, sometimes Junpei was just chilling and out of nowhere Yukari would go and be MEAN. Like a BULLY. I swear, if Yukari and Junpei were genderswapped istg people would cancel her IMMEDIATELY. I think she's well written as a character, but she didn't have to be so F mean. Gosh. Obnoxious.
Typical HS girls do be like that sometimes
She was worse in the original game. Her character seriously was a deviation from what she was supposed to be. Reload, at least, made her kinder, like she was originally supposed to be. Her bitchiness was a byproduct of bad localization in the original game. Yukari in Reload is downright adorable, and her warm, loving nature is shown more in the linked episodes where she becomes determined to cook the MC a delicious meal, and the beach scene where you're given the option to hug her, and she reciprocates the hug.
Instagram would cancel female Yukari too. Those comments will cancel anyone they see
Uhm... dude 90% of the time Junpei either says something Pervy or so dumb that any friend would roast the fuck out of you. You mention genderswapping but funnily enough I feel that if Yukari wasn't a pretty young woman and was instead a man people wouldn't care nearly as much.
5:32 I was expecting something else
I had to live through my dad slowly dying pancreatic cancer.
I get it.
A new Persona RUclipsr? I’ll subscribe instantly.
YESSIR MORE PERSONA TIME!
I will stand by Yukari forever till the day I die
I love the picture you either did or had comidioned of the main character and junpi and yukari in the car because it sums things up perfectly our boy just trying to hangout with his friends only for them to make it like one of the worst times possible
That one ace defective clip where Yukari says "that" word exists because it was actually a line said by her voice actress in a hentai.
Or so I've heard.
Tbh I don’t find it offensive or anything like that about that “clip”, it just shocked me given the current state of the internet 😭
Bro what, you gotta elaborate
What do you mean that word, the N word.
Wait, like actual Michelle Ruff (her English VA for every appearance up until Reload when they recast all the main characters)? She was in a hentai??? Where did you hear this info? The internet must investigate...
what word bro?
i played through portable as Kotone and well lets just say Junpei was first a normal guy i didn't think much of him but when he joins the sees group he is a bit of a jackass for a few months it had gotten to the point where Mitsuru had to step in so things didn't escalate further mainly because Junpei assumed the 'Man' aka himself should be the leader instead of a girl he does get better later on but when thats the first impression you get i was fully behind Yukari and her banter
@@lucygirl1111 oh yeah I forgot Junpei was sexist in the females route lmao. I'm too used to him just being jealous.
Yeah when Junpei was being jealous about being the “main man” in the team he was a bit insufferable and his treatment towards the MC is uncalled for. That’s why I said that he does deserve some of the “hate” he gets from Yukari
@@nerogoro im stil pretty new to persona only having played 3 games persona 5 royal persona 5 strikers and now persona 3 portable ^^' even though i played through royal 3 times XD
Yukari character was my favourite character from P3R, and I romanced her as soon as I could. It genuinely surprised me when I saw people hating on her.
Well people in the internet do be like that…
Lol same I don't understand what is even there people hate about her, infact Junpei was the one who was being annoying or creepy most of the time.
@@Fatterfixer4385the answer may shock you but it's sexism. My guess is that Yukari acting that way and not the typical anime blush "kyaaa you perv!" Response and a more real "what are you a creep?" Response made them uncomfortable on some level
I haven't play P3Reloaded so everything I'm about to say is based off the original and FES. Yukari isn't the only person the story set up to be disliked, very few people liked Junpei during his jealousy phase of the story. Despite this nearly everyone comes around to at least understanding Junpei if not outright liking him. Yukari in the Answer is different, not because she holds a different view from the rest of the SEES members. IMO the reason for the Yukari hate during the Answer is because she acts like she's the only person who is suffering, or more precisely is the only one allowed to suffer from the MC's death. Regardless of whether she was genuinely the closest to the MC or not when he died, it clearly has an affect on everyone he was close to, especially the other SEES members.
She see's the member who want to move forward as a sort of betrayal to him, which can make sense from a teenage girls perspective but she still takes it way too far with her 'none of you are hurting like I am' perspective. It's beyond dismissive and downright egotistical of her, which is ironically what she accuses the others of doing. It's not a crime to be flawed, some of the best Persona characters are flawed characters, it could almost be considered the point. Yukari's problem is that despite what everyone's been through together, she ignores everyone else's grief and pain to play up her own.
I think that's why I liked Yukari's character because when dealing with a massive loss like that, obviously she's going to be more selfish, she's going to be thinking that no one is sharing her pain, she's going to think like she's the only that cared about him. It's a realistic viewpoint because losing someone or something very important to you can mess you up in a lot of ways as I also relate to her a lot. I was also thinking and feeling like that because it's a very hard phase to go through. I don't fault her to be very selfish in that moment, it's a very human thing to do.
Yukari is one of the best written characters in the series
2:01 is the Gyaru with us?
Search up “kogal gyaru”…
@@nerogoroshe doesn’t have the makeup or the hair
1:05 see this is what I’m talking about thank you so much for telling me that I’m about to play the game your a real one I’ll be back
Enjoy Persona 3!
Yukari in reload is not the same beast as Yukari in the original P3. Especially in the answer. I understood everything about her, but I just found her very annoying. In reload she's been watered down and... honestly lost her charm in a lot of places cuz of it.
Either way, I'm still on team Aegis. Best girl fr
Yukari has been filtering all kinds for years because she's not a simple one note girl like most expect
I think only playing Kotone’s route in Portable helped make me see Yukari in a more positive light, especially since her Social Link starts earlier.
0:21 I've never played a Persona Game, but I am still here.
The mene behund yukari calling junpei thr F slur comes from her original voice actor saying that line in a dubbed hentai. Fun fact.
I love Yukari! She was probably the most relatable character for me personally, as I have a similar family experience/dynamic. I understood her banter with Junpei as affection, agreed with her reasons to have doubts about how/why SEES was operating and respected her steadfast focus on seeing their mission through. She was also the first to express concern about how Makoto was being spied on by SEES and oblivious to their motives. She knew who she was, what she stood for and wasn’t to be messed with. A queen. ✨
I can understand why people would be annoyed with her decision/feelings in Episode Aigis but tbh I just felt that it made her character all the more realistic. She was devastated and clearly no one was catching on. I can’t blame her for behaving the way she did. Hats off to the writers for writing a well balanced character. At least in my book! Haters gonna hate.
Still watching the vid, but thank you for covering Yukari! Me personally, she is the one of the best characters in the Persona series! Especially on the answer episodes (both FES and RELOAD!) Loved all of her versions!
Yo, great video. It's nice to see a high-quality persona video 🐧
She’s not a bad person, but she wouldn’t be a close friend of mine.
Honestly I love her whole character, that includes her flaws and boy does she have many.
The first time I got reversed in her SL, it clicks to me that she's not just an average NPC made just to like the MC and everything's happy ever after. She's a character that have so much troubles and much angst that she don't know what to do, she's a real teenage girl in a series filled with nothing but high schoolers.
One thing that bothers me in Persona SL/Confidant is that everyone is happy dandy with the MC, the troubles they got almost always from external factors. So far only Yukari have unique trait in that she's the only one that her character herself the caused of the drama in the SL with real consequences.
And for that I respect her, even in The Answer since her one defining emotions for door-kun situation was pain of denial. She's high above among Persona cast IMO.
Btw I love the fact you properly pronounce Yukari's full name
I thought a WW2 leader was the most controversial in Persona
@@terranghost5432 True
The Nazis and aliens will never have their way!
I never thought of any of those things about Yukari that the thumbnail seems to be suggesting.
Yes, she misses her shots a lot in P3FES. But because she uses a ranged weapon, her misses don't cause her to fall down and become vulnerable. Still, she's only really good for healing, which MC can take up due to being an MC, and Wind element, which again, MC has it covered.
I didn't know how she is before playing any Persona game, but the moment I saw her (design wise) the first time I said: "She's... Perfect.* Then after I saw how she is (counting the twisted memes) I said: "She's my other half." I'm somewhat of an apathetic antisocial psychopath, emphasis on the last word as Yukari "apparently" was somewhat of it in og Persona 3. (Although it's probably just another shitty joke.)
Lmao same😭 I saw her for the first time in Reload in the Iwatodai dorm was like, “Yeah, this is #1 romance option”
Really well made video and awesome channel!
4:44 “She hit her shots just fine.”
Also the song in the background at this part
*Minding my biz, so mind your own biz*
15:29 Pfft- what the hell is this?! I thought we were talking about Yukari, this sounds more like a Total Drama character! Like, I get why some people see Yukari as this, but she's usually never this venomous or mean by default, folks.
whoa, didn't know this extended to the answer...brb
Nah seriously bro, she's just joking. She honestly cares for her friends and also junpei, i think she just dont know how to express her feelings other than joking or teasing on him. You went on too deep into a hateful character while she is just that teasing strong willed girl, while i know that her comment on the whole "you scared ?" Was too much but again it strengthen my point where i said that she is too blunt and doesn't know how to express her feeling, she is just blunt, and this moment just showed that yukari is very honest, blunt and strong willed, she was scared too btw she just made her think to herself she wasnt, great character btw like every others.
Yeah I know she’s joking. I was joking too when I said that she’s a hater 😭 I never legitimately thought that Yukari genuinely hates Junpei or anything like that
Genuinely asking. Do you know how brother/sister or friend to friend interaction in the east? That's basically what Yukari and Junpei is
I think shes a good character because she can generate these debates simply because she shows normal, flawed, human behaviors.
Some people will like her, some will despise her depending on their personal experiences. For example, I think Yukari is absolutely unbearable, she snaps at everything, is demeaning, she reacts before thinking, yes she does attack Junpei a lot, but Junpei is also a jealous, pompous, sometimes double faced jackass.
They contrast really well with the stand up characters of the cast but that have other issues. At the end of the day, they are all in the process of becoming better versions of themselves and thats what matters, I only wish they could actually show their personal progress and I think P4 did this much better.
@@Hemestal That’s good to hear. I understand that she can be demeaning and is prone to snap at everything, but I think that’s a reason why, for me personally, she’s a realistic character because a lot of teenage girls in real life do those things and are prone to do those things too 😭 Growing up throughout high school made me realized how insufferable girls can be in high school and since Yukari acted like them, for some reason it just adds a layer of relatability for me towards Yukari.
I have an inside joke about yukari I always use with my bestfriend (she doesn’t even play persona but she likes everything I like)
if Yukari is a worse person, then wait till you find people who defends Satou Matsuzaka.
17:50 as for this part, yeah, it's a bit though how things like social media and the opinions of some people can really influence others in terms of what they like. Even that happened to me, so as for now I've started at trying to form my own opinions and likes, and not really base them or get them influenced from the opinions of others. I still have ways to go, but it's there.
I want the 19 mins and 38 secs that I spent on watching this video back
@@tur-tl-es Damn 😔
The only thing I have to argue with is that she really does just hate Junpei, to a bizarre extreme. Also, having played Portable, her weapon accuracy is indeed pretty bad, to the point that even Yukari acknowledges it, but it's a trade-off for not stumbling when she misses. At least her spell accuracy is reliable.
Hot take: a huge part of her controversial status comes from misogyny. Complex, human, well-written female characters get a lot of shit compared to their male counterparts
The worst example in recent years is the discourse around Fire Emblem Three Houses (Fire Emblem fans don't deserve complex characters. Well, neither do Persona's).
There's also Skyler in Breaking Bad being hated when she is one of the only real person in the show
Are her controversies driven from misogyny? I don't really think so because it's understandable that people might find her annoying due to her personality and The Answer, and if those things were to be put in a male character per se, they would probably have the same reactions. Yes, obviously there are misogynists out there that finally can make their point when Yukari acted unlikable, but I don't think that's a really huge part of it.
@nerogoro Well I've seen many instances where flawed male characters got people's sympathy and understanding in moments of doubts and tensions compared to their female counterparts, or female characters getting hated for things that aren't a big deal at all
For example the "Junpei Ace Defective" scene I mean c'mon even the best siblings/friends/coworkers banter like this all the time
@@nerogoro Indeed. And the Yukari defenders who call those who don't like her "virgin incels who can't get laid" are misandrists. Because it has nothing to do with attracting women. It's more how she comes across that rubs plenty of fans the wrong way. Honestly, the Yukari defenders who make these arguments are just as bad as those "Virgin neckbearded incels" they claim to hate.
Controversial? I think you mean based. Yukari my beloved you'll always be my favorite no matter what
I LOVE YUKA TAN!!!!!!
GO BACK TO YOUR CHIDORI JUNPEI
@@nerogoroJunpei the type of guy to have a girl die for him and then proceed to hit on someone else
Although she was written well in Episode Aigis, the things she said to Aigis went a bit too far.
It's no surprise that Aigis is the second most popular character in the series only beaten by Joker, and everyone knows that attack is our favorite toaster Enemy #1, what makes this even worse is that it happens in a game called episode AIGIS so your eyes and ears are 100% focused on Aigis's story.
Side note: I would love to have more spin-offs or expansions that are about specific characters, I happen to be playing Persona 4 dancing and I like that we learn more about rise
I think people cared less about Aigis for that to be the case than caring more about the fact that they had to sit there in The Answer suffering through grueling grinding just to get rewarded with Yukari sass. Still a pretty dumb reason to hate her but I get it.
@@Shadow-Joop-157 Yeah, I do agree that how she treated Aigis was uncalled for. But for me personally, it was quite realistic because I did go through of losing someone special and for a while I started treating friends and family like how Yukari treated Aigis. That’s why I said that Yukari is the most realistic because I can relate to her a lot in a personal level.
@nerogoro That's true, like I said yukari is written well in Episode Aigis, but it's just that a lot of people personally just didn't like that part
I havent even watched the video and idk what the conclusion is I love yukari shes my goat
The conclusion is she’s THE GOAT 🥰
I had no issues with her up until the hotel slap sceen. I always hated the trope in anime of a female character slapping/abusing the main character as a joke or gag for something completely out of their control. Both of them fell victim to the mirrors influence so it felt uncalled for and really turned me off. Especially since I've delt with a women in a previous relationship of mine where she felt it was okay to push me whenever she got angry with me so that scene just kinda made all those bad times come flooding back. I understand that she apparently apologizes for it if you talk to her after the fact but for me personally, situations like that I handle the same way as you normally would if someone cheated on you. Once you've felt comfortable enough to put your hands on me in ANY way that isn't loving, or intended to harm me, we're done. Any feelings I had for you instantly die, this applies to friends as well. Otherwise, I thought she was completely fine. I had no issues with her other than that.
Real
from a post, i learnt that people who lost their loved one tend to be selfish, because they don't have anyone else to care about anymore
I think the title of the video fits nanto or kanji more since weirdos on Twitter swear up and down those two are gay and trans when they clearly aren't nor does the story imply that to be the case its just head canon
Yeah, a lot of people nowadays especially on Twitter they have 0 media literacy at all 😭🙏 But I think in most like RUclips, TikTok, Instagram, and Twitter a lot of people are like making out characters like Joker and Akechi gay for each other, Naoto being like trans/androgynous, Kanji and Yosuke being gay, Yukari and Mitsuru to be lesbians which is really weird because they are not those things at all. People somehow and someway failed to see like the actual development these characters go through and their true nature as well. Probably because they’re projecting themselves into these characters and are pushing their headcanons and delusions way too far.
@nerogoro exactly i mean head cannon is fine and all but if you're going to be a insufferable twat about it keep that shit to yourself it's people like that makes a remake of persona 4 worrying for me
11:56 sounds like you speak from experience. yeah it kinda lingers on you for a while
Yep, my experience isn’t to the degree like Yukari but when I dealt with losing someone I loved, I was acting similarly to Yukari.
i did not even know any of this , And i'm kinda like wut X"D I never really played the og P3 tried to and failed but i find this kinda funny especially how time goes on , Especially the banter between Yukari and Junpei , it reminded me of when i was still a teen , Friends would insult you not because they hate you or anything but as friendly banter , But then there is Junpei actively being a dumbass from time to time. I didnt realize we were going into the dlc and hadn't touched that yet but thats fine, The awnser seems really confusing to me cause why would people hate on her for that. there is so much media out there where a character would want to go back to save a loved one. Heck Yukari is fucking based for it. There are so many people who would choose a path like that. I Like character progression and stories like that.
The biggest thing i think i learned was that certain things have aged badly over time. characters and other things don't fly now a days anymore for multiple reasons. i learn this alot while just going through older media in general. that being said . Yukari was my waifu pick aswell ! I related to her struggles , I related to her fears her growth and everything. Great video , got informed about things i didnt know hahaha.
Yeah, I think according to people The Answer in the original Persona 3, Yukari was way more "worse" than how she acted in Persona 3 Reload. Even then, it's understandable on how she acted no matter on what scale.
Tbh, had similar experience it was like, yeah, she can be a romance here, she's cool. But to be honest, I haven't touched the internet regarding persona until I finished. She is annoying with her hating on junpei. She literally blames him for "skipping" the mission because HE WAS KIDNAPPED.
She started as a very girly character, but she is written as that popular girl that will be an asshole if she wants to. Maybe someone will not care, for me it was insufferable and crossed her out. At least her heals were great.
I don't care about the whole twitter dramas regarding characters, as I don't care for twitter in the first place, but if you are seeing the interactions of her with the rest. She is just an annoying person to deal with.
Twitter brought me here. I'm not disappointed (I love Yukari Takeba)
I SWEAR I’M NOT HATING OR CANCELLING HER 😭🙏
Yukari is rly well written. I didn't like her at first but as the game went on, she got more character development and grew on me
could never hate yukari, my favorite p3 character
5:16 I shall now only refer to him as Stupei
People point out Yukari hating on Junpei but conveniently leave out that he either said something Pervy to get accosted or just something so stupid that any good friend would call you a dumb ass. Honestly, I think part of its just that Yukari's a girl
Damn what did Momo Ayase do to deserve this treatment 😢
Yep, another Yukari bag.
I feel like a lot of these problem kinda stem from new players coming into the series ,
like how a lot of normie coming into anime during the lock down and then proceed to binge through it , shallowly .
It's like a growing pain ? just a phase , it will pass .
I think you are missing the point.
When the game came out and around FES, you had fans that really didn't like her. Her attacks DID often miss, her mag/atk was around average to less than average and if you experiment with the arcana, you can very easily screw yourself over with a mostly less than average and borderline weak Yukari, who's only role is healing. Her selfish motive looked worse when it was put aside Misaru. Even though they want the same thing Misaru's goal was way above Yukari. If it wasn't for the anime, she would have probably been wholehearted hated across the board.
But Reloaded happen. Reloaded fixed all her battle problems.
With all the problems fix, Yukari as a character shown more. This is where Twitter ban wagons spotted her. Yukari "hate" now isn't like it was 18y ago. The "hate" she gets now is from an impressionist spot. The accusers (most of which are just posers) are super imposing themselves onto Yukari. Placing Yukari as a shield for their questionable actions and takes. I would say she isn't even hated anymore thanks to Reload and Persona Q.
Truthfully the "weirdness" you see from her reputation is due to posers that most likely never finished the game, nor even played the series, saw a popular character and bandwagon onto the first moron that said something. She isn't the only one to suffer from this. This was done with a multitude of others [My hero academia, little witch academia, Goblin Slayer, Demon Slayer, Dragon Ball series, Sailor Moon, now Ranma etc.].
My advice is don't go to twitter. They are locust. The true opinion is from the fans, that can be found on fan sites, message boards, or polls.
That's why she's my favorite character
2:04 nah Mimi is literally just a copy of yukari idk why this triggers me even as a DANDANDAN fan it’s the other way around Yukari was before Momo If Anything Momo Literally stole Yukari whole flow lol
Obviously Momo be copying the goat Yukari 😭🙏
@@nerogorofr
Why is half of the comment section typing with broken English?
Based Morgana profile pic.
About the thing about the other Lovers Arcana girls.
Rise isn't a Model
She's an IDOL
You can't take what people say on twitter or reddit seriously - there's a lot of people with genuine mental illness, or people that are just young and want to be edgy on the internet.
Yukari is a good character and like you concluded, I don't think she hates Junpei, I actually think they get along and understand each other pretty well.
Yukari is like the number 2 popular girl in the school next to Mitsuru, so for Yukari to even talk to Junpei basically proves she doesn't hate him, as when you're popular talking to a loser can be seen as a detriment to your social credit. Yukari thinks Junpei is a slacker on his studies, so she insults him for it, but she knows the other students like Junpei because he's a nice guy, so she doesn't treat him like a loser and IGNORE him.
I would think Yukari insults Junpei to keep their friendship from advancing into something more because what do you think would happen if she complimented him instead? Junpei would for sure catch feelings. Junpei always calls her "Yuka-tan" which is his friendly way of flirting with the second most sought after girl in the school. He acts cute with her.
I would argue their dynamic is much deeper then the dialogue options you make the MC say, and they're a much better match the MC+Yukari, but the game is pandering to an immature "I won all the girls" kind of fantasy. I especially always saw it as a next level of home wrecker when cucking Akihiko by dating MItsuru :')
I mean yeah I shouldn’t really take what people say on twitter and reddit seriously but it’s just funny sometimes seeing it 😭
I don't think you can actually "cuck" Akihiko since he and Mitsuru aren't dating. Even if you don't date Mitsuru and ask her if she and Akihiko are dating, she says that Akihiko is just a friend and Akihiko says the same thing in the dancing game. In the P4A where they're both adults they're still close friends but not romantically involved. I think their relationship is somewhat similar to Yukari and Junpei's, just with less banter.
I think you are overthinking it. Yukari was written to have low self esteem. Yes, she does have looks, but she is constantly battling with feeling low self worth and learned helplessness.
Junpei tries to be friendly but he steps on her toes constantly by using baby talk like calling her Yukari-Tan.
For someone with such deep rooted issues, being talked at like that can feel demeaning and reductive and of course, that person will snap at you, be passive aggresive or even lash out if they don't talk it over.
Maybe I am just out of touch, but people calling Yukari racist is a new one for me.
I like Yukari as a character, although at first when I played P3 (FES) I didn't initially. She isn't nice and isn't the most pleasant to be around, but her behavior makes sense the more you get to know her throughout her social link and the game. She has a lot of loneliness and mistrust that causes her to be defensive and push people away. We see character growth with her, and sometimes there feels like setbacks. She feels like a more fleshed out character then many video game characters out there, and her internal struggles fit the theme of Persona.
Also, I never thought she hated Junpei. She certainly gets annoyed by him and sees him as immature and irresponsible often, but I've had the impression that she was teasing him more in line of "affirmative teasing", that meaning it signals some level of comfort from someone who otherwise wouldn't tease others or a way of affirming him and her way of showing affection rather than out of a place of malice. Since she has often lived in a defensive nature with most people this may be a way of her using teasing as a coping mechanism to show closeness while also feeling a sense of control over the relationship. (IMO, I am not a psychologist).
I think a lot of people have been quick to judge her, and while I respect that there are people who don't like her I think it's unfortunate when they just see her on the surface level and don't look at more of her character development that explains the way she is. I also think by the time we see her in P4AU she's come a long way in her self-confidence and her teasing of Junpei is more clearly from a place of friendship.
Also I think how Yukari and Junpei use honorifics reflect how they feel about eachother. Yukari uses -kun with his given name which shows at least a baseline respect and friendliness or familiarairty, even though they constantly bicker. If she didn't like him she'd probably omit honorifics. Junpei uses the -tan honorific which implies he views her with a level of friendliness, playfulness, and teasing familiarity. I don't think Junpei would call her Yuka-tan, also using a nickname, if he didn't feel some positive feelings and closeness with her. If he really felt she was being cruel to him he likely would be more distant in how he addressed her such as "Iori-san". Such as how we see Mitsuru often addressing many other characters by their family name to keep a more formal and distant salutation, at least at first.
Yukari did in fact say something very homophobic in the original P3 (it was a different time back then, & was probably a choice made by the translators) but it has been fixed and yet that one decision continues to haunt this character even after it was corrected (the internet never forgets… for better or in this case, for worse).
Can't believe people would be so butthurt about that
@@DynamiteRyper WHAT DID SHE SAY
@@DynamiteRyper I legit don't even remember what she said.
@ I’m fairly certain it’s the F slur (like actually)
@@DynamiteRyper I've played all 3 reload, fes and portable all in japanese version. I don't recall she ever said something even remotely offensive, it might be a translation issue.
Yuka-Tan my beloved 🤩😍
Yukari my beloved
Wasn't aware that she was "controversial" lol. She just seemed like a typical hs girl to me.
@@SolidSnake240 She IS like a typical HS girl 😭😭 I mean her being “controversial” is debatable and that’s why I made this video for discussions and such.
If Yukari has only one fan then that is me. If Yukari has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against Yukari, then I am against the world
I'm near the end of Persona3R and Yukari has been invaluable. She's clearly the White Mage type and has some similarities to Rosa (FF4). Seeing as I haven't played the Answer yet I skipped that section. Overall, she has been one of the more identifiable characters in the game for me and while she does have a bit of a mean streak, (particularly against my favorite bench warmer Junpei) it doesn't seem overly malicious. It is just that she knows him well and is just used to his antics and has a quick wit to deal with them.
That's why she is the best.
I was not a fan at all of Yukari back when i played p3 portable and even though i like her a bit more in reload (mostly because of the redesign, she is cuter now) she is still not my cup of tea... but saying she is a racist its a very unfair stretch
Eh, she’s not racist. It’s just funny there’s a lot of people on Twitter/Instagram/TikTok saying that she would say the n-word for no reason😭
My favorite p3 side character fr fr
Not just the most realistic character in p3, but the most realistically written female character in the entire franchise.
finally ordered P3R
Leave her alone man 😭🙏
@@RileyTheGhost I ain’t even hating on her bruh 😭🙏
Yukari was a true definition of selfishness in the answer and the original game. Mind you, the only reason mitsuru teamed up with her was because she didn't want yukari to be alone since she was the one who helped her cope and get back on her feet. I get why she wants him back since makoto was the only one who could relate to her and, at the same time, had feelings for him. So I do get why she was jealous of aigis.
I know some people don't like the changes in the answer, but I honestly think they handled it better than the original. I may not have played the original, but I have seen others play it and watch videos of the original.
I'll be honest I didn't like Yukari in the original game as far as the aigis chapter. Mostly because of the way she treated aigis. She crossed the line a few times and granted I get it. She was emotional, and she was jealous, and bitterness got the best of her. She was the only character whose personality was different.
That fact that atlus had to change that entire scene, whether it was good or bad, really showed how hated yukari was. It was basically damaged control.
I don't hate it, but I was disappointed with how she was acting, but it was understandable.