The Anthony Cumia Show - The Shining: The Wendy Theory (with Chrissie Mayr)

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  • Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
  • 1289 (11/08/2021):
    Ant and Chrissie Mayr discuss the new Wendy Theory about Stanley Kubrick's classic The Shining.
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  • @terrantheblack6587
    @terrantheblack6587 2 года назад +27

    The Wendy theory had me rewatching the shining 20 more times

    • @QuantumRizzX
      @QuantumRizzX 2 года назад

      Did it change your opinion of the movie? Cause I still find a few holes in the Wendy theory. When did the crazy start? Are we to believe that all scenes with Wendy are either imagined or somehow a combination of truth and false. There’s mention of jack physically abusing Danny by both parents but Danny continues to seek out his mother over his father for protection, even though she was abusing him like the Wendy theory suggests.
      Maybe Danny’s just crazy and is imagining all this. That movie “identity” has a possibly similar plot point in that 12 people are trapped in a motel and are being killed 1 by 1. Turns out there were 2 realities going on; one Was the world with the 12 strangers and that turned out to be an imaginary world. And the second was of a serial killer with multiple personalities going through mental experiments designed to get rid of the personality that is murdering people in real life. They leave the kid personally alive in his brain but the twist at the end was the kid personality was the serial killer. Not a Kubrick but still fascinating to think about

    • @terrantheblack6587
      @terrantheblack6587 2 года назад +3

      @@QuantumRizzX 1. I think she was always crazy. 2. The situation itself probably confused Danny, and his love for his mother kept him in denial. Better yet, we could be seeing the story from Wendy’s POV all along.

    • @eirikallee9941
      @eirikallee9941 2 года назад +2

      @@QuantumRizzX for me its more like some scenes without wendy could be what she is imagining is happening to others. jacks first trip to the hotel and the impossible window interview, danny and haloran talking about the shining, jack at the bar, jack in room 237 and the old lady, jacks talk with danny on his lap, danny riding around floor plans that dont make sense, danny seeing the twins, jack's conversations in the walk-in fridge and bathroom with mr grady, etc. she even talks about how shes "so confused" when jack is trying to get the baseball bat from her on the stairs like she is losing grip with what is reality and what she is imagining. nothing magical/ghostly happens to wendy until the end where she sees the bear blowy and all the skeletons in the hallway which could be the result of her slow decent into madness and witnessing her halucinations directly instead of indirectly. wendy claims it was an old lady in room 237 who attacked danny but danny doesnt speak up and after jack meets the old lady he acts like nothing happened/nobody was there (because there wasnt, it was wendy's hallucination). wendy brings up to her therapist that jack hurt danny once before but when jack talks about it he is "confessing" to the bartender which could be her guilty conscience trying to deflect.

    • @ITILII
      @ITILII Год назад +2

      If anyone could have faked the moon landing, it would be the greatest director and film genius of all time, Stanley Kubrick. As Steven Spielberg said "No one, in the history of motion pictures, could craft a film, better than Stanley Kubrick"

  • @sanket7381
    @sanket7381 2 года назад +41

    RUclips "opie and anthony shining vos" one of the funniest moments on O and A

    • @Mytimekid
      @Mytimekid 2 года назад +15

      "Here's Dummy!"

    • @XXthekingofyouXX
      @XXthekingofyouXX 2 года назад +10

      "Your jokes are no good here, Mr. Vos."

    • @TurkFebruary88
      @TurkFebruary88 2 года назад +8

      “Do ya like toothpaste doc?”

    • @xPadge112x
      @xPadge112x 2 года назад +6

      Remember when they Had Rich do a script read with the guy from A Bronx Tale?
      It's tremendous shitting on Vos but every now and again when my mind wanders I here him say.
      "LOUIS......BEANS!"
      And I crack up like fuck.

    • @TurkFebruary88
      @TurkFebruary88 2 года назад +5

      “Tony is a little boy who drowns in my mouth”

  • @thomasthomason4943
    @thomasthomason4943 2 года назад +34

    An important thing to point out is that there was a fire in the movie studio and the set had to be repaired/rebuilt.

    • @peterforget946
      @peterforget946 2 года назад +4

      Wouldn't that have just caused Kubrick to be especially precise about all of the shots & continuity?

    • @QuantumRizzX
      @QuantumRizzX 2 года назад +3

      Yeah they act like there’s not websites and movie lovers out there with lists of continuity errors in films.

  • @mastershake2782
    @mastershake2782 2 года назад +40

    I like the Mirror Theory too. Every time Jack is talking to a ghost there is a mirror in the scene implying he's talking to himself. There are mirrors all over the movie. For example: REDRUM.

    • @nathanpapp432
      @nathanpapp432 2 года назад +9

      When hes talking to Grady in the bathroom hes clearly looking past him and into the mirror. Same for Lloyd, the back of the bar is a mirror.

    • @libertas_americana
      @libertas_americana Год назад

      Not to mention the windows that should not exist. The window in the apartment should not exist and the big bay windows where Jack types shouldn’t exist merely on schematics of the hotel. Yet somehow the TV is always placed in front of these fake window. A tv that has no power cord and tv where Danny watches cartoons. “Don’t worry, he saw it on the television.”

    • @hermanhale9258
      @hermanhale9258 Год назад

      The ghosts come through the mirrors.

  • @brandonobaza8610
    @brandonobaza8610 2 года назад +36

    Of course, the "Kooky Broad Theory"
    This also applies to life in general.

  • @curtislamarh
    @curtislamarh Год назад +7

    And I wholeheartedly believe this theory above all the others.. there's so many times that the clues are present....the typewriter scene, the tricycle being the wrong color, the lamps and the light switches, and I see the writing on the typewriter was a hallucination he probably really had a lot of chapters typed up but her hallucinations

    • @ChrisBrown-ir6sf
      @ChrisBrown-ir6sf 8 месяцев назад

      The biggest was the maze and i am quite surprised how people are not talking about this. Every Time overlook hotel was shown from Helicopter view or Far distanced view. There was no maze in front of the hotel..Look it up at the beginning when Jack arrives at the overlook for the interview.
      But somehow there was a maze when Wendy was walking with Dany or Jack chasing Dany ?
      Makes it obvious the maze exist in someone's delusion and Jack never dies in the maze cause it's not real

  • @BanditoBurrito
    @BanditoBurrito 2 года назад +20

    It’s hard enough to make a classic movie, almost impossible to make one so good there are multiple theories around it nobody can decipher. Kubrick is awesome.

    • @truthsocialmedia
      @truthsocialmedia 2 года назад

      The movie makes sense after the Wendy theory. Other people who believe in a haunted hotel are ******* retards

  • @ITILII
    @ITILII Год назад +3

    "No one, in the history of motion pictures, could craft a film, better than Stanley Kubrick!" - Steven Spielberg

  • @roterfuchs8201
    @roterfuchs8201 2 года назад +18

    Ant should have told Chrissie that Kubrick is still alive when she asked and she would have looked for his social media accounts

    • @sebm3029
      @sebm3029 2 года назад +5

      she's friends with his daughter on twitter but didn't know he's been dead for over 20 years

  • @soulbyliam
    @soulbyliam 2 года назад +16

    Pfft I’d like to land on Christie’s moon puppies

  • @nightwing79
    @nightwing79 2 года назад +8

    I'm stuck on the "Two Jacks" Theory. Jack the writer and Jack the character in Jack's novel. The idea is that from the point we see Jack in the burgundy jacket we're actually inside the story he's writing where he's made himself the character and the one compelling scene for this is after he storms out of their apartment they later cut to a scene where he's sitting there typing and he's in different clothes. As if he's just writing away making this story and then we see him back in the same clothes again with the burgundy jacket. I can't shake this one

  • @stephanc197
    @stephanc197 2 года назад +17

    Speaking of Kubrick's cinematic style, I saw Eyes Wide Shut recently for the first time , it's so good, very underrated. It''s also visually stunning, very rich colours, his use of lighting all that bullshit is a feast for the eyes , and not just for the naked chicks. It's one of those movies where you'll notice something new no matter how many times you've viewed it.

    • @OGRE_HATES_NERDS
      @OGRE_HATES_NERDS 2 года назад +4

      his magnum opus

    • @PantsofVance
      @PantsofVance 2 года назад +1

      Of course the theory there is that the elites killed him for exposing their crazy shit.

    • @tomb5396
      @tomb5396 2 года назад +3

      Just saw it as well for first time, bold colours, what's the password?

    • @vgmilo
      @vgmilo 2 года назад +2

      I don't think hardly anybody denies that visually Kubrick was a genius. Usually they criticize his movies for being boring and detached, but not for looking bad

    • @Shaner373
      @Shaner373 2 года назад +1

      whack your bag?

  • @rofyle
    @rofyle 2 года назад +4

    In the book, Jack beats his own face into hamburger with a croquet mallet.

  • @FreakinSweet86
    @FreakinSweet86 2 года назад +11

    I mean its a great theory but how then how do you explain only Jack seeing the naked granny ghost and the impossible window we see in Ullman's office during Jack's interview. Wendy was not present in those rooms at the time.

    • @alldetected3106
      @alldetected3106 2 года назад +2

      The hallucinations infected jack like the corona virus.

    • @joeytroutman9506
      @joeytroutman9506 2 года назад +1

      You didn't watch the wendy theory did you

  • @Mangaboy69
    @Mangaboy69 2 года назад +5

    Ant would love the jarjar binks theory

  • @mindseyemusicreview
    @mindseyemusicreview 2 года назад +3

    Same thing with guitarists. Its the same 6 stings but when you can hear the flavor of the player it's really special. Just like Stanley Kubrick he was a master at his craft and style

  • @fredmetz7200
    @fredmetz7200 6 месяцев назад

    When Ant imitates Danny. He sounds exactly like Eric The Midget

  • @rayadorno6510
    @rayadorno6510 2 года назад +9

    Bro has anyone seen how awful the footage of the moon landing is?! Stanley Kubrick would've never shot such a poor picture. It might be fake ok but not shot by Kubrick.

  • @ErokusMaximus
    @ErokusMaximus 2 года назад +3

    The 90s TV version with the wings guy was amazing. 2 parter worth a watxh

  • @jpalexander292
    @jpalexander292 2 года назад +11

    I am no sure about the Wendy theory but I know one thing for sure. Nicholson was not the star of this movie, Shelly Duval was.

    • @LeesChannel
      @LeesChannel 2 года назад +2

      Didn't she get nominated for the inaugural Razzie award?

    • @OGRE_HATES_NERDS
      @OGRE_HATES_NERDS 2 года назад +4

      the hotel was the star of the movoe

    • @OGRE_HATES_NERDS
      @OGRE_HATES_NERDS 2 года назад +2

      @@LeesChannel awards dont say anything about how good or bad the performance is, only the individual audience member can decide that

    • @vgmilo
      @vgmilo 2 года назад

      I disagree jack Nicholsons performance is probably one of the best hammy villains movie history

  • @susancouderc359
    @susancouderc359 2 года назад +8

    I do love the Wendy theory I used to wonder why it is Wendy and not Jack surveying and taking care of the generator and machines in the hotel? Surely not a woman's job but yet it's Wendy who does the actual work. Plus she is dressed in Indian clothes which means she represents the Indian spirits the hotel was buried on..does this mean Wendy represents the good and Jack the evil and it is Wendy who gets revenge over Jack even if it is by her falling into a psychotic episode...she revenges the Indian spirits by killing Jack in advertantly? So many questions. I do find it harder to believe it was Wendy abusing Danny but it is possible. I guess in the end all three of them shine Danny Wendy and Jack and the hotel gets the better of them which is why furniture keeps moving around and stuff. But so many possibilities really.

    • @QuantumRizzX
      @QuantumRizzX 2 года назад

      Wendy didn’t kill jack though.

    • @lavendeer6290
      @lavendeer6290 Год назад

      Wendy representing dead indigenous people is probably more in line with her being subject to violence from the same general source.

  • @MyMomDrank
    @MyMomDrank 2 года назад +5

    I watched that Wendy Theory video as well as the documentary on the shining. The Wendy theory is the only one that holds any water.

    • @st0n3p0ny
      @st0n3p0ny 2 года назад +3

      Did she let Jack out of the pantry?

    • @gregparks1785
      @gregparks1785 2 года назад +1

      @@st0n3p0ny if you watch the Wendy Theory video it explains that.

    • @NorthJerseyJabroni
      @NorthJerseyJabroni 2 года назад +5

      The main problem is that if true, it would have had to have been *meticulously* documented in the script. Every minor detail, from where the Kool-Aid on the pantry shelf was, whether there was a Dopey sticker on the door and when there wasn't, the positioning of the background furniture, etc. would ALL have to have highly detailed instructions in the script, and some of those script notes would have survived and been mentioned in the numerous Shining documentaries over the years. We'd know the Wendy Theory was true because there would be countless script notes that would all be documented to prove it.
      A more plausible theory: Kubrick did dozens and dozens of takes for even the most mundane scenes. At some point, somebody in the crew knocks the Kool-Aid off a shelf, rubs against a Dopey sticker, moves furniture to adjust lighting, etc. Kubrick is looking for 22 different acting nuances that do NOT involve the Dopey sticker, and doesn't notice the continuity error.
      That makes more sense then a bizarre hallucination theory that has zero payoff in the movie or script, and is never mentioned or alluded to by anybody for 40 years.

    • @MyMomDrank
      @MyMomDrank 2 года назад +2

      @@NorthJerseyJabroni disagree, maybe for one or two things but it’s way too much for Kubrick to not have noticed. He was a PSYCHO when it came to those mundane details. He literally would say “bring me ten 24mm lenses!” (All same brand and model) and select his favorite. And I DO agree with you that it would be hard to explain certain motivations to the actors without telling them (if you look at the typewriter scene half the time Jack isn’t angry but sort of slackjawed at his potentially crazy wife). Hard not to explain to Nicholson why that would be, so I get what you’re saying. But something like a chair missing from the scene wouldn’t happen with Kubrick.
      I can totally see Kubrick going “you know, what if we made the wife the crazy one, I’ve known a few crazy broads in my time…“ and then did it very subtly. Like you said, having the actors do takes multiple ways to throw them off the scent.
      And just because he may have kept a production script full of his crazy ideas doesn’t mean he explained it to anyone else. All they need to do is ensure continuity until the “eccentric director” says “get that out of here, I hate kool-aid!”
      All I’m saying is there’s definitely enough evidence for seed of doubt, and not enough rationalization that he just “didn’t notice” to erase that seed of doubt. And it’s WAY more evidence than the moon landing or Native American suffering or whatever. Those all felt like nonsense.

    • @NorthJerseyJabroni
      @NorthJerseyJabroni 2 года назад +1

      @@MyMomDrank It's not just actors he would have had to inform, he would have had to have specific instructions to crew as to which props/furniture HAD to be present/absent in each shot, and then how to shoot it the other way for the reverse angle. It would have had to have been meticulously documented in the script notes to his crew in order for all of these mundane details to be in the proper shots, and there would be ample evidence of it. It's not something he could have just done on his own without micro-managing every detail in writing.
      Also, he went to all of this meticulous detail, but then offered no payoff or explanation of it - either in the film or even in interviews done years after the fact?
      It's a fascinating theory, but at the end of the day, I still think it's just a creative way to explain away continuity errors.

  • @talktokatingalls
    @talktokatingalls 2 года назад +2

    I've seen arguments about the Wendy Theory. To be honest, I don't care if it is correct because it is now the lens through which I view the film I enjoy the movie so much more with the application of the Wendy Theory.

  • @kencoakley8366
    @kencoakley8366 2 года назад +8

    Coincidentally, Shelley Duvall,who played Wendy was, and still is, described as nutty in real life.

    • @christophercrochet5454
      @christophercrochet5454 2 года назад +5

      Many people think she's never been the same after how she was treated by Kubrick.

    • @neroclaudious6396
      @neroclaudious6396 2 года назад +2

      Not really. Ever since Dr. Phil exploited her mental issues a few years ago, she's been living in a protected community in Texas and is doing a lot better. She's been interviewed recently and she's doing great.

    • @QuantumRizzX
      @QuantumRizzX 2 года назад +2

      Most actors are

    • @malikjohnson7950
      @malikjohnson7950 2 года назад

      Wasn't she m0lested or something? 1ncest? Can't remember. I think OandA talked about it but i can't find the video. If so, that explains her problems.

  • @justwatching6186
    @justwatching6186 Год назад +5

    I agree with The Wendy Theory. No way Kubrick makes that many continuity mistakes. Also explained why King hated that movie. Stanley took his novel and made it MUCH better. An ego like King’s wouldn’t except that.

    • @goodmaro
      @goodmaro 11 месяцев назад

      It's not just the *number* of "continuity mistakes", it's their specificity, and the fact that many of them would've been extremely difficult to produce accidentally. It took work for those details to happen as they did.
      I have a lot of trouble convincing people of the same about _Lost_ , a TV serial whose maker I was friendly with for many years beforehand (and hence knew his sense of humor). Fans analyzing scenes from that show rationalize tons of supposed production mistakes that included many shots that could happen only by careful arrangement. The trouble is that people are invested in a too-superficial understanding of the plot and reject contrary evidence.

  • @TonsMoreCowbell
    @TonsMoreCowbell 2 года назад +1

    Confessions of a moon landing filmer was the original title of the shining.

  • @johnmiller5679
    @johnmiller5679 11 месяцев назад +1

    I believe in this theory also. The chair there was reality and when the chair is gone it’s what Wendy is seeing. Also notice the office Jack goes into for the interview cannot exists because it has a window. That’s because it’s from Wendy’s point of view of how Jack told her the interview went.

  • @johnkeillor
    @johnkeillor 2 года назад +4

    I'm flabbergasted by the Wendy Theory

    • @CircuitRider
      @CircuitRider 2 года назад +1

      I’m flabbergasted by how idiotic the Wendy Theory is. Oh yeah, disappearing chairs = Wendy is psycho and the real villain and hallucinating everything 🙄

  • @okjoe5561
    @okjoe5561 2 года назад +18

    Chrissie Mayr is a good co-host with Anthony.

    • @rwc20071
      @rwc20071 2 года назад +4

      I hate female comedians, but yeah she is actually not bad as co host

    • @Myrzghe
      @Myrzghe 2 года назад +1

      Stuff like "today he would be trans"?
      It's like she's blindly trying to sing the songs that makes grandpa smile

    • @avengemybreath3084
      @avengemybreath3084 Год назад

      Yes, boobs are fun!

  • @barzy9725
    @barzy9725 2 года назад +3

    The movie was great but even reading the book got you looking over your shoulder. Ha ha for real.

  • @mastershake2782
    @mastershake2782 2 года назад +1

    LMAO! I literally just watched The Wendy Theory too...

    • @TL2354
      @TL2354 2 года назад +1

      What's so funny?

  • @edgrant3994
    @edgrant3994 2 года назад +22

    Let's Go Brandon !

  • @TPTnny
    @TPTnny 2 года назад

    Thank you for covering this.
    I love you now.

  • @AL13NM
    @AL13NM 2 года назад +6

    Doesn't work. How would we the audience be experiencing her hallucinations of things she isn't even aware of, like conversations between characters she is not in the room with?

  • @jockoadams3377
    @jockoadams3377 2 года назад +6

    The Wendy Theory would've made a good version of the movie. But I don't think thats it. The shifting environment and inconsistencies would also speak to the hotel being haunted and fucking with its inhabitants.

    • @QuantumRizzX
      @QuantumRizzX 2 года назад +1

      And why would there be a picture of jack at the end in the ballroom? I think either jacks crazy or possibly events repeating themselves year after year or Danny’s crazy and is imagining all this and his parents are starting to buckle under the pressures of having a special child

    • @abc456f
      @abc456f 2 года назад

      @@QuantumRizzX Kubrick himself said the 1921 picture is indicative of the reincarnation of evil. I don't buy the Wendy theory. I do believe Danny was sexually absurd by his father.

  • @bryanmckinney1098
    @bryanmckinney1098 2 года назад +10

    Legend has it Anthony played red cloak in Eyes Wide Shut (based on true events of course) can anyone provide more info 😆 P.S. The word anthony is looking for is "cinematography" I believe. Or the way a shot is framed. If this is true btw, and Kubrick went to his grave not telling anyone this movie works on 2 levels then I'm speechless....

    • @Robb1977
      @Robb1977 2 года назад +1

      Welcome to the world of Stanley Kubrik. You can pick apart every detail and debate what it means, and what the shot composition is, and why there are errors or if they're errors.
      I can name 1 Continuity error that has no explanation is his entire cinematography... in the marina/betrayal scene of a clockwork orange, dim scuffs his boot against Alex's pant, leaving behind a black mark, but in the next shot it's gone. There's no reason for that to be the way it is, and it's only a few frames so it likely was just an error.
      But Kubrick didn't make many mistakes like that. And the shining remains one of his most debated movies for countless reasons. Wendy theory would explain why he gaslit Duvall through the production, making her feel crazy because her character was supposed to be and he couldn't expressly tell her that. This sort of thing happened in Dr Strangelove as well.
      But at the same time, the layout of the entire hotel doesn't make sense, the whole movie is about disorientation, making even the most meticulous person lose their sense of space and time. The title cards intentionally being oddly specific and also vague, yet not categorically similar, mirrors and windows in hallways where they shouldn't exist or don't make any sense.
      Its not just Wendy who's crazy because there are many moments where she's not present and Jack is going a bit nuts, so either she just is fantasizing, out of view, or everyone is crazy and thinks they're the only sane one.

    • @soccom8341576
      @soccom8341576 2 года назад

      @@Robb1977"everyone is crazy and thinks they're the only sane one." - sounds like serious multi-dimensional
      crazy to me.

  • @jmbwithcats
    @jmbwithcats 2 года назад +10

    I am convinced the wendy theory is what Kubrick intended and why King hated it... because Kubrick took a 2 dimensional story and made it an amazing movie about mental health.

    • @get8bit
      @get8bit 2 года назад +1

      He made a skunkworks inside of King's predictable haunted house garbage story.

    • @Emidretrauqe
      @Emidretrauqe 2 года назад

      I don't buy it. I think if you combine this information with Room 237 you'll find that the entire movie is deliberately inconsistent, regardless of where Wendy is or what she is doing.

    • @lavendeer6290
      @lavendeer6290 Год назад

      Bruh, it already had themes of mental health

  • @dizzyhole666
    @dizzyhole666 2 года назад +14

    Rob Ager makes some great videos on film analysis

  • @The_kookclub
    @The_kookclub 2 года назад +6

    The Wendy theory is awesome. Showing jack screaming her name in the maze makes so much sense when you look at her as the “bad guy” because she is insane.
    It shows how stans mistakes aren’t mistakes but little bread crumbs to lead us on a path of darkness. Showing us that Wendy is abusing danny not jack.
    God I loved watching ant explain this lol

  • @116Bears
    @116Bears 2 года назад

    The existence of Dr. Sleep freezes this theory.

  • @NotDry2457
    @NotDry2457 2 года назад +1

    Also why was NY comedian Colin Quinn just randomly standing at the bar?

  • @backforblood3421
    @backforblood3421 2 года назад +1

    I saw the opening of Scream 3 about a month ago, and could tell it was a Scream movie just from seeing a guy sitting in traffic, not having seen any of those movies, really.

  • @RyanHeinzman1985
    @RyanHeinzman1985 5 месяцев назад

    I really like the Wendy theory as well. There's the Red Book one, Jack being an abusive father, etc. Could Kubrick have tossed in all these clues into the movie on purpose?

  • @wanderingderelict19
    @wanderingderelict19 2 года назад +2

    Eh! The story in the novel, was profound enough. Film enhanced certain parts for the better, yet was lacking in others (such as the historical backdrop).

  • @TerrySilverhand
    @TerrySilverhand 2 года назад

    Now I need to rewatch the shining... Again...... And happily so

  • @FlaminggMoe
    @FlaminggMoe 2 года назад +3

    Mind...fucking....blown. Off to watch the shining again from a whole new perspective

  • @heidi7151
    @heidi7151 2 года назад +3

    There were 2 continuity bombs within the first few minutes of Full Metal Jacket.
    One that I remember is Hartman punches Joker with one hand but it's the other when the camera changes angle. Pretty surprisingly bad.

    • @heidi7151
      @heidi7151 2 года назад

      @@gsesquire3441
      Perfectionism leads to burnout, which leads to mistakes. Perfectionists can hyperfocus on meaningless things and miss the obvious problem. Botching a simple punch in the opening scene is an example of that.
      He smacks Joker for denying the Virgin Mary. The slap looks so fake and the sound effect is laughably bad. Okay, we can say Kubrick did a terrible job or we can say this scene was meant to be absurdist, like Tarantino movies. I don't buy the defense. I just think he fucked up.

    • @heidi7151
      @heidi7151 2 года назад

      @@gsesquire3441
      Funneling all his mistakes into some type of allegory is what people do with the Bible. But Kubrick was very human. He made bad movies and he made mistakes. He's also the best director probably ever.

  • @SoBayK80
    @SoBayK80 2 года назад +8

    I love The Shining theories, and the Wendy Theory is the chef's 💋

  • @JW-un8ui
    @JW-un8ui 6 месяцев назад

    Christopher Nolan has a very distinctive style as well.

  • @washburnbilly
    @washburnbilly 2 года назад +1

    The audio is a bit low, but this whole thing reminds me of the movie Sublime. It's a twisted kind of story but it is interesting to see this as well.

  • @marklaws9868
    @marklaws9868 2 года назад +6

    I bet Stephen King is so upset that people are still talking about a movie he despises so much.

    • @justing7490
      @justing7490 2 года назад +1

      He doesn't hate it. He said it's a bad adaptation, but a good film

    • @marklaws9868
      @marklaws9868 2 года назад

      @@justing7490 Perhaps my words were hyperbole. I stand corrected.

    • @philyamascunt7518
      @philyamascunt7518 2 года назад +3

      Stephen King is upset that no one has figured out that he is "Wendy" in real life.

  • @yeeminyamin5515
    @yeeminyamin5515 2 года назад +1

    At the start when Jack is going for the interview they are walking through the large dining hall and in the background you can see Jack cleaning a large wooden display case. Like he was already there. And the weird books on the desk when he is being interviewed?

  • @GentlemanBystander
    @GentlemanBystander 2 года назад +2

    "We need this record corrrrrrrrrected."

  • @OGRE_HATES_NERDS
    @OGRE_HATES_NERDS 2 года назад +2

    i guess anthony doesnt know that there is a guy on youtube named rob ager who makes a new hour long video about the shining practially every week. he basically has a separate conspiracy theory for each and every frame of the movie

    • @Sweeptheleg83
      @Sweeptheleg83 2 года назад

      Rob is great. I've watched almost every one of his Kubrick videos. Very good stuff

    • @OGRE_HATES_NERDS
      @OGRE_HATES_NERDS 2 года назад

      @@Sweeptheleg83 the guy is a madman lol

  • @joeytroutman9506
    @joeytroutman9506 2 года назад +2

    If you've ever been around someone as sick as wendy immediately get out of this relationship as soon as possible. Yes it makes complete good sense to me this theory.

  • @99tubalcain
    @99tubalcain 2 года назад +8

    This is the stupidest theory I've ever heard. If Wendy is the delusional one then why is Jack talking to Grady in a bathroom alone? Why is he hanging out with the dude from Blade Runner alone if it's all just Wendy's own neurosis?

    • @-Garviel_Loken-
      @-Garviel_Loken- 2 года назад +4

      Jack is a replicant.

    • @letsdiscussitoversometea8479
      @letsdiscussitoversometea8479 2 года назад

      Wendy doesn't absolutely *have* to know how "Lloyd" and "Delbert Grady" looked like (if either character even *_existed_* to begin with).
      Someone can quite easily use their imagination to conjure up a profile of a particular character.
      The two fitted their "roles" quite well I thought.
      I'd earlier on explained my thoughts on Wendy being a fantasist, which is why I suspect that she had ideations of Jack "scheming" in secret with someone he would have had the chance to "connect" with, as was more elaborate with Grady, but even slightly elaborate with Lloyd.
      What in psychiatry is labelled as paranoid schizophrenia (but I believe *truthfully* speaking, to be demonic possession) - that's what I suspect Wendy was susceptible to.
      As if she could be "knocked down by a feather".

    • @ProletarianTakeover
      @ProletarianTakeover 2 года назад +1

      Obviously you didn’t watch the video. Wendy imagines it. Grady didn’t let Jack out of the storage room because he was never in the storage room. Wendy dragged his unconscious body into the maze. Given Kubrick’s meticulous attention to detail the theory has some creedence.

  • @corporalsanders9981
    @corporalsanders9981 2 года назад +4

    A lot of good 2001 space odyssey conspiracies too.

  • @QuantumRizzX
    @QuantumRizzX 2 года назад +3

    If Wendy’s hurting Danny why does Danny continue to seek her help and love?

    • @PaulHattle
      @PaulHattle 5 месяцев назад

      Stockholm syndrome is a real thing that actually happens.

  • @letsdiscussitoversometea8479
    @letsdiscussitoversometea8479 2 года назад +5

    Personally, I never warmed to the family members in "The Shining".
    Jack seems very detached from his wife and son, Wendy seems very needy and on edge, and Danny seems very introverted and cold.
    The explanation about the "Grady" caretaker, and his apparent first name, made perfect sense given the Wendy theory, as did all the missing pieces of furniture, re-placement of certain objects, and substitutions of others.
    I think Wendy was also a bit of a fantasist, clinging to ideas about Jack abusing Danny.
    More than that...she looked - strange.
    Especially in the typewriter scene with Jack (although I do like those boots she's wearing - they look cute 🙂).
    Maybe that's why she was typecast for the role... there was something a bit "off" about her??

    • @99tubalcain
      @99tubalcain 2 года назад +5

      If you watch the documentary that's floating around on RUclips about the making Kubrick also was pretty harsh on Duvall to the point of her breaking down in tears at times. He was trying to push her to the edge and it worked and added to her oddness during the film.

    • @vandaloo420oo8
      @vandaloo420oo8 2 года назад +1

      What about tony did u like him

    • @letsdiscussitoversometea8479
      @letsdiscussitoversometea8479 2 года назад

      @@vandaloo420oo8 "It".
      "It", not "him"!!! 😆
      And No. 😐

    • @QuantumRizzX
      @QuantumRizzX 2 года назад

      “Typecast for the role?” could you explain this further?

    • @letsdiscussitoversometea8479
      @letsdiscussitoversometea8479 2 года назад

      @@QuantumRizzX What I mean when I say "typecast", is that the actress has a certain disposition about her, whereby she appears to be quite susceptible to negative influences.
      As if it wouldn't take a great deal for her to become upset.
      If you look back on Shelley Duvall's career, you can (sort of) tell that she's quite a "weak" person when it comes to being able to endure alot of hardships.
      Some people - perhaps such as Sylvester Stallone - are quite "hardy" people who are equipped with extensive coping mechanisms for difficult situations that involve alot of upheaval.
      I imagine it would have been quite difficult for Kubrick to have made life hard for someone like Stallone, because he comes across as having a very strong constitution... something Duvall certainly doesn't possess.
      One casting director I know _of_ (through reasons that I won't get into here) was Reuben Cannon.
      He cast alot of the actors in programmes such as "Murder, She Wrote" - but he was very unusual, because the culprits we're ALWAYS the ones who were least suspected.
      In essence, typecasting is based upon "hunches" a caster has about the character of an actor or actress.

  • @redeyejedi9504
    @redeyejedi9504 2 года назад +2

    Is doctor sleep not canon?

    • @XXthekingofyouXX
      @XXthekingofyouXX 2 года назад

      Not sure if it’s canon or not but I do know it’s a schyitty movie.

  • @jantelliquawallace355
    @jantelliquawallace355 2 года назад

    Kubrick boxs is a super interesting documentary. You're all welcome.

  • @NorthJerseyJabroni
    @NorthJerseyJabroni 2 года назад +3

    Wendy Theory is like if they did the Sixth Sense but never revealed that Bruce Willis was dead at the end of the movie. And the only hints M. Night Shyamalan gave us was stuff like "Hey - in the restaurant scene, the waiter in the background is wearing an apron, and then when he walks past in the reverse angle shot, he isn't wearing one! Therefore, that tells you that Bruce Willis was dead the whole time."
    Wendy Theory is interesting, but at the end of the day it's just an imaginative way to explain away trivial continuity errors.

  • @aldoparziale5669
    @aldoparziale5669 2 года назад +1

    Yeah I've known about Wendy being crazy for a while lol

  • @napndash
    @napndash Год назад

    Wendy Torrance = Dorothy Gale

  • @stevenedwards4470
    @stevenedwards4470 2 года назад +3

    The Wendy Theory is incorrect. The person who came up with it redirected the movie.

    • @XXthekingofyouXX
      @XXthekingofyouXX 2 года назад

      I can't bring myself to watch King's remake of his own book's cinematic phenomenom.

  • @johnwatts8346
    @johnwatts8346 Год назад

    wendy theory = nonsense. real plot- jack Rs danny in room 237, which doesnt exist because its not a hotel , its a family home- jack even says when ullman first shows them their rooms 'its very homey', the layout of room 237 is the same as jacks room, which he was in fondling danny immediately prior. redrum doesnt just mean murder ,it means r and murder. the film is about doestic violence and abuse and how its cycle handed down.

  • @lavendeer6290
    @lavendeer6290 Год назад

    Y'all would be the guy in a horror movie that says "babe, do you know how crazy you sound?" and then gets killed.
    The Wendy Theory emerging in a time where abuse is spoken about more openly isn't a coincidence. It's a more shallow theory than staring the movie in the face and looking at the themes and subtext.
    It's kinda like saying Get Out is about "a race-obsessed black man who reads discrimination into everything" and snaps one day. I could pull enough reasons out of my ass if i really wanted to but it's silly. Both movies use horror plot devices to explore social violence (domestic abuse, racism). It's right there.
    Or less spicy, Midsommar is just the death dream or drug trip of the main character, Hereditary is about a woman with grief psychosis. Ash just goes crazy and kills all his friends in The Evil Dead! Etc.
    Weird.

  • @elvidviva7365
    @elvidviva7365 2 года назад +2

    yo wich way norf

  • @6atlantis
    @6atlantis 2 года назад +3

    I think the “sequel” with Ewan McGregor debunks the theory that Wendy was the crazy one.

    • @goodmaro
      @goodmaro 11 месяцев назад

      You can't debunk a work by making a subsequent contradictory work.

  • @Iccarus72
    @Iccarus72 2 года назад

    All that space symbolism seen throughout the movie

  • @christdolphin69
    @christdolphin69 2 года назад +1

    There are intentional inconsistencies is eyes wide shut too. Kubrick is brilliant and rob ager/collar I’ve learning is a genius. Highly recommend all of his videos

  • @loonanite
    @loonanite 2 года назад +3

    Chrissy and them milkers goddamn

  • @guinnesslv
    @guinnesslv 2 года назад +4

    If anyone over analyzes ANYTHING they can pick apart and make fantasies about it. I think it was done in history of a certain book. Not sure what it's called.

  • @mr.smithgnrsmith7808
    @mr.smithgnrsmith7808 2 года назад

    She constantly has a crazy ass look in her eyes the whole film too

  • @boilerroomed3682
    @boilerroomed3682 2 года назад

    More volume please!

  • @mediasawdust2458
    @mediasawdust2458 2 года назад

    There are tons of continuity errors in all of Kubrick's films.

  • @CalebMorgan
    @CalebMorgan 2 года назад +1

    The Wendy theory does not make sense if you read the book and the sequel in which both parents are dead.

    • @goodmaro
      @goodmaro 11 месяцев назад

      Doesn't matter. The movie is its own thing. It's like saying the movie of _The Wizard of Oz_ doesn't make sense in light of the original book and its sequels. Or the movie of _One Touch of Venus_ , which similarly -- and brilliantly IMO -- provides a psychologic interpretation by its own added scene.

  • @gimme3steps933
    @gimme3steps933 2 года назад +4

    Sam Raimi is another director where you can tell he’s directing. Very cool

    • @Stephen-lt1tp
      @Stephen-lt1tp 2 года назад +2

      The evil dead movies suck they’re goofy comedies

    • @get8bit
      @get8bit 2 года назад +3

      @@Stephen-lt1tp Your mom's a goofy comedy.

    • @Stephen-lt1tp
      @Stephen-lt1tp 2 года назад +2

      @@get8bit haha and I bet you like Disney movies as well

    • @gimme3steps933
      @gimme3steps933 2 года назад

      Thank God your opinion doesn’t matter.

    • @Stephen-lt1tp
      @Stephen-lt1tp 2 года назад +1

      @@gimme3steps933 nor does yours. But the online hate does exist for those childish films

  • @Votedjt2024
    @Votedjt2024 Год назад

    I really love the original the shining with Jack Nicholson is very good

  • @ProletarianTakeover
    @ProletarianTakeover 2 года назад

    RIGHT THE FUCK IN

  • @Born2b_WILDe
    @Born2b_WILDe 2 года назад

    Yes.

  • @acra3
    @acra3 2 года назад

    Why do you keep saying "The Moon Landing"? There were six of them.

  • @LEARSIKCIGAM
    @LEARSIKCIGAM Год назад

    nah, Jack was abusing Danny
    and she is missing the whole picture

  • @flamingocupproductions5329
    @flamingocupproductions5329 2 года назад

    when you clue into this sorta non-sense in your day to day life you just end up feeling like you're left frozen to die in a maze somewhere, but after the snow all melts you can start to be happy again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @pretorious700
    @pretorious700 2 года назад

    What's with your audio level?

  • @YuriTardid
    @YuriTardid 2 года назад

    Wow I've never heard of this but I knew the movie seemed a little off when I watched it forever ago. Guess I'm rewatching it now

    • @st0n3p0ny
      @st0n3p0ny 2 года назад +1

      So many subtle things are implanted, and not pointed out explicitly, to make it feel off. Ulman's office for example, in the middle of the Overlook on the first floor, has that window with sky and bushes outside. Kubrick was a mad man.

  • @noodlehat3250
    @noodlehat3250 2 года назад +4

    Stephen King hated the Movie.

    • @chriskolb3105
      @chriskolb3105 2 года назад +8

      Stephen king is a nut job and his books are so overrated.

    • @noodlehat3250
      @noodlehat3250 2 года назад +2

      @@chriskolb3105 I agree his recent books are terrible

    • @rigafraction1653
      @rigafraction1653 2 года назад +5

      King's a left wing extremist that is loonier than the characters he writes.

  • @wesleymaione5041
    @wesleymaione5041 2 года назад

    Antnee bring back your 1940‘s voice/character
    10-10.

  • @TheKitchenerLeslie
    @TheKitchenerLeslie 2 года назад

    Wendy Theory is bullshit. All the horror is what he's writing in his book. The scenes where he's overacting are him imagining it in his head. When he talks to Grady in the bathroom, watch his hand... he's "typing" while trying to figure out who the character is in the story. That's why his name is changed.

  • @rigafraction1653
    @rigafraction1653 2 года назад +1

    Next up the GoT theory, those water bottles were left in the scene on purpose.

  • @XXthekingofyouXX
    @XXthekingofyouXX 2 года назад +5

    The Wendy Theory is about as sound and logical as Critical Race Theory.

  • @awc723
    @awc723 2 года назад +1

    Chrissie jumps up and down to punch herself in the face...

  • @marquisethemedic4264
    @marquisethemedic4264 2 года назад

    But there is the new film where the kid Danny is all grown up

  • @charlespeterwatson9051
    @charlespeterwatson9051 2 года назад

    I know Shelley Duvall suffers with effects from the same theory only less violent.

  • @billybadass7718
    @billybadass7718 2 года назад

    Chrissy can get it though!

  • @milomilo5634
    @milomilo5634 2 года назад +2

    Based on this theory, I would say that Cumia has started smoking primo weed

  • @Philo-ul2uq
    @Philo-ul2uq 2 года назад

    just like Darth Jar Jar......this theory is true.....

  • @powerofthetime
    @powerofthetime 2 года назад

    I thought Anthony hated Shines

  • @newenglanddynasty4882
    @newenglanddynasty4882 2 года назад +2

    This theory is lame

  • @slamfreepoetry1845
    @slamfreepoetry1845 2 года назад

    No man will ever go to the moon.