EXPERT Confirms TRUTH about WHEN FSU is LEAVING ACC | SEC | B1G
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- FSU will soon be out of the ACC and we aren't the only ones to realize it. Josh Pate of CBS Sports has confirmed a timeline and we're talking about it today!
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Espn stabbed Fsu in the front, not in the back.
Then Herbstreit and Finebaum proceeded to twist the knife thereafter by saying fsu needed to quit complaining and bitching
That's not even including the fact that they forced Saban's team into the playoff and then hired him a month later. I'm sure there was no tampering there...
Also knowing it was Saban's last they wanted him in.
Year
More like bending us over
@@garlandalmarode6396 Saban's own words "this team deserves this spot."
BIGXII guy here…..I’d hate to see them go to the SEC ….ESPN and SEC are ruining CFB
Big 10 just as guilty. They get the money without the on field results.
Old adage:,“You get more flies with honey then vinegar.” If ESPN cared about winning FSU over, and steering them to the SEC, they are not using the word “Felony” in the court filing. They have to know that is just another reason to go to the Big 10.
ESPN is now about catching the flies looking for a pile of shit to consume
Or everything they said was to create the illusion they are siding with the ACC when in reality they didnt say anything damning towards FSU. They chose to phrase it in a way that is not straightforward but gets alot of people to comment and engage, more media hype for their network…
The clowns at espn/sec are still belittling FSU. That's why I hope we're NOT associated with such.
It seems as though ND and FSU are heading toward the B1G. And what an amazing conference it will be.
That's what I'm hoping for.
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Someone needs to tell ND that...
@@ct7843At least we’re not playing at SEC trailer parks.
@@ct7843 Well then, FSU won't be concerned about losing. They should breeze right through the conference trouncing everybody. No problemo. Maybe they only need to bring the second and third team guys. Save the starters for the playoffs. Sounds like a good idea.
Why would FSU join SEC if FSU is trying to Become AAU member, there going to B1G
Florida State athletic director Michael Alfred has tied to the Big Ten and real good buddies with the Big Ten commissioner
Exactly
FSU is not going to the Big Ten. No AAU = No Invite.
@@MrMac1138the aau thing can and will be ignored. We have now entered the Era about tv contracts and conference realignment solely for the purpose of money, not academics. Sad as it may be, this is where we are at now. It's gonna be a competition on who gets what powerhouse football schools.
I think these guys are missing something. The Big Ten has TV deals with CBS and NBC. So you have the Big Noon Saturday spot the 3 PM CBS spot and the 8 PM NBC spot. You want big time games at all three spots.
I listen to Josh regularly. He is saying nothing in this monologue that others are not saying. He chooses his words carefully. He's making no bold prediction. He says he has sources. I'm sure he does. But, what he is saying is general enough that anybody just watching FSU internet sites (and interviews with Dough Rohan) could say exactly what he is saying.
Not sure I’ve seen one national talking head give a date of “before FSU plays another game.” But, I agree somewhat- there’s plenty most people can infer.
F*CK ESPN and the ACC! Notre Dame and FSU to the Big Ten! That would make the SEC a “Second Rate” conference! 🤣🤣
Please Fsu has one good year in over a decade.
The Ground is shaking and the Volcanos Mt Saint Corruption and Mt Saint Nepotism are about to erupt!
😂😂😂
😱 I hope not the sec
Spearatics and The Den said it 2 yrs ago
Could someone explain why ESPN would rather pay 90 million to FL ST. for their games than 36 million they pay now?
Because the alternative is to lose them to the B1G and not be able to make any $ on them at all.
@@DoubleFriesNoSlaw Until FSU proves it can get out of the ACC there is no reason why ESPN would want them to leave the ACC. ESPN gets a much better deal with FSU in the ACC,
@@badgerbournemouthfan5408That's what this whole video is. It's going to happen. Everyone in the know knows it's going to happen. The question is what will it cost?
I believe that the B1G will make a huge loan to FSU to allow them to leave the ACC. Both U Maryland and Rutgers got major loans from the B1G in 2014. Both are still repaying. Rutgers will get its first full payment from the B1G in 2027 after final loan payment.
What needs to happen is FSU and the ACC need to settle out of court and sign a NDA stopping the rest of the programs in the ACC from using FSUs case against them I'd argue half of the 500M payout is a fair compromise so 250M ... From there the B1G could write the check as a loan giving FSU a half share until the loan is paid off ... The current B1G payout is around 80M per school and FSU along with the Western Expansion would probably move the needle closer to 100M per school as is the experts are saying that's the estimated B1G payout once USC UCLA Oregon and Washington start playing in the B1G ... That would mean FSU would make 50M a year for a few years which is still more than they will ever make in the ACC and the loan would be paid off in 5 years ... even at 80M per year FSU would make 40M per year (still more than they would make in the ACC) and the loan would be paid off in 6 or 7 years ... Worst case scenario the ACC doesn't play ball and it takes twice as long to pay of the loans so 10 to 13 years but even then FSU would make more per year in the B1G paying off a loan getting a half share than they will ever make in the ACC
FSU doesn't need a loan.
The Big Ten has 0 interest in FSU. Not AAU. FSU adds nothing to the conference.
Sure bud...keep dreaming...because you are delusional
@@MrMac1138Sure thing there Rick. Meanwhile, back on planet earth, FSU ranks #7 in viewership. Top 10 teams are money machines for both networks and conferences. Highly sought after. Also, Fox is aiming to get into the 3rd largest state, Florida. Yep, no interest at all.
The requirement to be in the AAU has no longer been in effect for two years now. Academically, FSU ranks #53 among universities. Newcomer Oregon ranks #78. Long time members, Iowa (#107) and Nebraska (#197), are orders of magnitude lower than FSU.
Tell us again what your point is.
Why would FSU pay a large exit fee when the ESPN contract it's almost over period meaning ESPN has to file an option to extend it in real estate that usually doesn't count
Convenience: Peace of mind.
Not bitter. More money in big TV and more research money. Better academics for fsu to grow to. Big would love fla for tv and recruiting. Why do we pay when contact is almost up, ie option time?
Espn is a trash product. I would much rather watch us on fox
Big Ten and FOX. Florida State does fit into the Big Ten. Academically/research, but mostly the Florida fan base and tv market and recruiting. It’s also why they are looking at Miami too.
No Miami, their fanbase is fickle and weak and their product isn't the best. Private schools are not the best fit into the B1G and I know that as a Northwestern alumnus. USC and ND are the only privates that can bridge the gap as both have a century of strong football, which Miami does not.
@@fecat93 I disagree. The Big Ten has Northwestern in forever, it now has USC in, wants ND, and has no problem with Miami as a private school either. Academics are excellent at all 4. The Big Ten is interested in viewers in Florida so with FSU and Miami they get the north and south covered. Miami area is a good market not just to watch Miami play, but for Big Ten teams to play in due to all the transplants living down there. It also covers the whole State recruiting wise.
When the announcement is made ACC starts withholding money from FSU. Somebody is giving you crap advice thinking you announce and that's all that happens. FSU also stops having anything to say about ACC operations. Go look what happened when Maryland announces its withdrawal. I hope FSU leadership has more sense.
If Fsu had a lot of sense they wouldn't be looking to get out when the CFB playoff is expanding and a new Acc contract is coming up. They ll be paying millions for years.
SEC not big 10 yes, SEC don't respect FSU.
FSU and Notre Dame to the Big Ten.
If ND is willing to join their plus one can be anybody they want. It is worth it for the B1G to take in garbage to get ND to eat crow and take the normal noob B1G deal.
‘’Our side of the fence” = myself, Herbie and ESecPN
My 2 cents.... I think ACC/ESPN and FSU are waiting for news on the what the NC court will decide regarding ACC suit. If NC court stays the case in favor of Florida court case. Then negotiation between parties will move quickly and in favor of FSU as ACC/ESPN do now want contracts to see the light of day. WHAT IF, ACC/ESPN makes a behind the scene deal to release FSU from ACC, with ESPN making the ACC "whole," and FSU agreeing to go to the SEC?
I like Pate. Listen to him regularly. Might not agree with everything he says, but that goes for everyone I watch.
F the sorry excuse for a conference (SEC)
I wonder if FSU fans really want to leave, after all, you just won the ACC championship. Joining the SEC would be super tough to win out. I would think the fact that both 1 loss teams that replaced you lost should make the powers that be less likely to screw the pooch again. FSU has gotten tons of publicity and sympathy, a positive!
What a great helmet logo. Looks like a unuch having a crying tantrum.
SEC wants us cause we gunna replace UF for the Florida school in the SEC. They have just sucked and continue to. Embarrassing for SEC. UF Prolly gunna have to go to big12.
If anyone’s getting kicked out of the SEC, it’s Mississippi State
I doubt that.
I actually like Josh most of the time what he says plays out in some fashion. I’m not sourced at all but i truly believe behind the scenes NFL Lite is being created and FSU will be in the Big with NC and possibly VA and either Clemson or Miami
Why UNC?
@@tomsmithdeal775UNC is coveted by both the B1G and SEC because of their market.
@@treyabbey6477And what market would that be? A football market? UNC ranks #46 in viewership and Virginia #58. If there WAS a market, it would be reflected in viewership. For example, next door Tennessee ranks #13 in a smaller state. Why isn’t UNC doing that well? Simple. They are a basketball school in a basketball state. College football generates between 80-90% of the revenue for the networks. Eyeballs = Money. No eyeballs, no money. Today, if you are only going to be good in one thing, it better be football. Neither are, have ever been or ever will be. As for market, Massachusetts has far more people than Alabama but more people watch football there than in Massachusetts. Some untapped markets are untapped for a reason.
Join the Sec, and Espn will promote Fsu as the Gators' little brother. The academic research money isn't even close between the two conferences
Hello, that’s why they want to leave
So does the academic research money team account for some of those 5 wins 😮 not enough wins or dominate to manifest those thoughts.
@@johnfridayxiii8455 Academic research dollars to B1G institutions dwarf income from sports.
Fsu is a bigger brand than Florida! Plus FSU brings more revenue 😊😊
@@ScottyDuke-kc7uc that's not what Finebaum said nor how Espn sees it
Would FSU be excited to be in the B1G?
Penn State, Nebraska, and Rutgers were excited to join. Note: I didn't say Maryland as their football fans seemed happy, but their basketball fans were disappointed.
I'm not sure about he Pac 12 refugees, but since they are bringing "friends" it is probably less traumatizing.
Just being excited to escape is not enough.
As a B1G alumnus I was excited about PSU and Nebraska, not excited for Rutgers and Maryland, and the Pac 12 debacle is just a step towards the 2 super conferences. Personally I yearn for the olden days of the B1G-Pac10 Rose Bowl.
Not really, at least relative to the SEC. Not a knock on the B1G but the SEC is where we belong.
I think FSU will have to pay $150M to leave the ACC.
Josh pate is very informed and knows his stuff. Has a lot of connections.
If we don’t go to the SEC, it’s going to be the same old story… “the ACC sucks ya’ll couldn’t make it in the SEC” I can hear it now, “the big 10 sucks, FSU could never make it in the SEC.”
FSU will not be in the big 12! Sec doesn’t want to lose a southern team to go to the big 10( or whatever) .
White tee shirt man bad
i love pate. Don't always agree with him but he loves the sport just like us.
Let's go ahead and separate the football programs from their schools. After all they really aren't students any more. That way they can just pay their players and all of them can just be professionals. No big deal, we have other professional leagues. The NBA has the D league and this will just be another of those developmental leagues. Just think how many times you've been to a D league game and you'll see it's really not a big deal.
FSU is a drama queen....only the Big10 would want something like that.
True. Really drama queen material for looking out for their own interests and seeking fair market value for their product. Really bad optics to do something that no one has ever done before. Oh, wait. Schools frequently charge conferences for more money. Nevermind.
Yeah, they are ignorant. Been complaining for over 20 years and blaming others for their poor football.
Luckily for you, in six months they will be gone and the ACC will have to find another way to survive without the $78m a year they give the conference every year while only getting $36m back. That’s a deficit of $42m a year. But the ACC can make up through car washes, bake sales and raffles where the winner gets to play quarterback in the next home game. Best of luck to them.
@@505premoto They just need to sue ESPN for an unreasonable contract and make sure they have good representation on the next negotiation, instead of letting someone take them to the cleaners. Contracts are only valid if they are reasonable.
SEC makes way more sense. Imagine how awesome it would be to drive to all the games and visiting fans driving to Tally. It would be amazing. Who wants to fly to LA, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Iowa, New Jersey, Oregon, Washington? Yuck. Give me drives to Bama, LSU, Texas, Tennessee, Georgia.
Your narrow sited, B1G is the only national conference now, and recruits will live that, period!
The SEC doesn't want them, the BIG does.
@@None-dj8iyyou’re ridiculous . Why would kids from south Georgia/ North Florida/ South Alabama ( fsu recruiting hot bed) want to play in a national college league? They want to be where the families can drive and visit/watch them play. I know fSU fans are goofy, but im starting to think big ten trolls and tshirt fsu fans in the Midwest are pushing the fsu to big ten is better nonsense.
@@ct7843 Baseball sucks.
@@ronelite582 You act like over half the games aren't going to be at home. Who travels to every away game?
FSU filled up Michigan Stadium before FSU had even won one national championship back in 1991.
BIG and SEC form an alliance because of the 2 networks working together…but you think they are about to compete “duke it out” for FSU? If FSU gets in the P2 it’s because the 2 networks agreed that they deserve to be in.
The BIG also made a deal with the ACC BIG12 and PAC to not expand using their programs and look who they've added in the pass 2 or so years USC UCLA Wash and Oregon they literally killed the PAC while having a deal with them ... The B1G is gonna do what's best for the B1G and FSU brought in 75M in TV revenue in 2023 as a 10 win team not in the conference championship picture ... FSU will likely report earnings of around 80M this year and again that's while playing in the ACC which hurts their value ... FSU is a potential 80M to 100M per year program even in a 20 school conference that would mean everyone in that conference is making 8 to 10 million just by adding FSU ... I think they would do it and I don't think the SEC is stupid enough to walk away from the B1G because their TV partner isn't happy about it
Back the camera up. Your mug is taking up my whole screen😆. FSU is going to the SEC. BANK IT.
I'll take that bet.
I doubt it.
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FSU should not have been in the playoff. They looked horrible vs Louisville. That is the truth. What are they so angry about?
How did Alabama look against 6-6 Auburn? FSU didn’t need a miracle to beat their SEC rival. Alabama looked horrible, played horribly AND had their starting quarterback. FSU had their 3rd string quarterback vs. Louisville. FSU beat LSU by 3 touchdowns. How’d Alabama do?
Who doesn’t like pate? I’m pate state material
Our fanbase was super moody after the snub. Josh had said he'd do a full episode if we got left out (think he was joking) and then he sort of didn't go as hard as FSU fans wanted after it happened.
(I like him too, fwiw)
Pate is a flip-flopper who said FSU fans should be quiet about getting left out because the semifinals were good. He's a joke.
No doubt Georgia was the one that got hosed. They were the best team in college football.
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Blame was very mediocre as UGA was.
Blama
😱 I hope not the sec
Any of the two but the ACC!