Pushing Back on Grievance Studies with Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- In an attempt to expose academic fields corrupted by postmodern ideology, Helen Pluckrose, Peter Boghossian and James Lindsay spent a year submitting intentionally broken papers to academic journals.
Their secret project was cut short when an investigative journalist from the Wall Street Journal discovered the group had published a paper under a fake name.
In October 2018, with the story set to break within days, the group seeks advice from Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying.
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Why am I so drawn in and affected by this? Something deeply attatched to me cannot take my eyes off of this. Are my early institutions of learning so corrupted? How do I remedy it?
Personally, this has highlighted what I've been trying to figure out by myself ever since the term "worldview" entered my own vocabulary.
I think I suffer from postmodernism, and have been considering it a personal cognitive disability for years. Thank you so much for what seems to be a step in some sort of pathway to recovery.
This should, at the very least, reset what is considered "intellectual" and "academic".
Thanks so much for having the foresight to record it, and thanks so much for sharing.
Thank you for your work, Mike. I wish I could donate more.
You are doing the lords work, Mike.
Thank you, and a huge THANKS to these professors & researchers who have risked everything to stand up to this cancer eroding our academic institutions.
Hey Mike. I was wondering if they have plans for a real academic paper on their findings. I see a real experiment going on, and it would be exciting to read about the full analysis and how this study connects together.
@@projectnemesi5950 They were thinking about doing this but the project evolved in way that will not be looked on favourably by the academic community. The project was also cut short well before completion so it's all quite messy and the time it would take to do this seems better spent on other projects.
"We rewrote a section of "Mein Kampf" as inter sectional Feminism, and it was accepted."
Says it all really......
Yeah that's such overwhelming proof that something is broken, and these ideas need investigation.
Have you read mein ?
Brilliant!
Juan Valdez is it any good?
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These people are so admirable, risking their careers, reputation & personal lives to shed light on these issues. I sincerely hope that they don't suffer too greatly as a consequence.
I sincerely hope that if they do, it doesn't discourage others from doing the same.
I think the whole "coming after me" scenarios for Peter will primarily rely on someone filing a false report then having a group of students call for action against Prof Boghossian. All this may be orchestrated by another professor, or even some sort of diversity officer. I would suggest staying off social media, and just playing it safe. Befriend students in intro courses so that they'll take your class again Peter, and be able to be allies or classroom witnesses when such scenario described in sentence one goes down.
@@ricodelavega4511 I believe that the administration are already throwing everything that they can at him, claiming that he falsified data
People within universities will try to shit on them as much as they feel is expedient. It'll be the usual suspects - administrators, young students, activists, etc. But there's a growing number of heterodox voices that have created something that resembles a community. Call it the Intellectual Dark Web, call it the skeptic community, call it whatever. But there's a vibrant & growing hunger for these types of voices, & these 3 academics will find support because of it. I don't fear for their futures. Not because I think it'll be easy for them, but I just think they're clever enough to handle it.
G L definitly! I'm a proffesor. It's very dificult teach with the P.C. speech.
This is unsettling. As an *actual* liberal progressive, this is a "the call is coming from inside your house" moment.
Wait for the intersectionality workshops coming to your work place soon.
This is an incurable virus for any multi racial slash diverse society. They’ve reached their minimal viable mass. These people make the Bolsheviks look like Busch league. This is potentially going to be catastrophic if it’s allowed to continue to manifest. I’m very concerned that this is hurting actual liberal progressivism that’s not of the radicalized variety. It won’t even lead to useful change, just a generalized distrust, social alienation, the rot of culture and art, depression, hate in general... it’s incredibly regressive. Sad. This could end overnight by passing a law that labels these folks a religion. Call Marxism a religion, give it a framework, give examples, empower individuals to lodge complaints with the state for religious discrimination and/or abuse under the framework that the Marxist religious members are violating the rights and protections of the individual, group or organization. They’re getting away with this abuse because they’re not a religion in the public’s space but they are in fact a religious organization
Wowbagger it will not work without force. There’s very little acceptance for the level of force common of the former USSR or today’s N Korea to prop up Marxism so they’re trying to occupy spaces and shame folks. What they’re up against is their not going to get more support. It’s at its max. Unfortunately for them their goals are far enough removed from the statistical average that they cannot possibly get everything they want... thus all everyone will get is nonstop social unrest and bickering but no consensus. They cannot win but their whole movement can make everyone very unhappy, alienated and insecure. They wanted to change the society sans war and that is not possible. They have to win with a war... that’s the premise required to flip a society the way they want to flip it. They can create “Balkanization” and civil unrest but not changes. Now you know what it’s like to live in the Middle East where there’s been many years of this social stalemate situation; people aren’t arguing politics they’re arguing reality, culture, social morays. The left can only create rot in the west they cannot takeover. I’m hoping it gets better and I’m pretty sure it will. But right now it’s not good.
@@michaelharold1334 They get away with it because real liberals are complicit and say nothing against it for fear of being eaten themselves. Moderates have stood by and allowed this for decades to the point where pre 2000s Democrats would be considered far right by them today. Real ideals have given way to attacking others personal beliefs as hate speech or thoughts that must be silenced or eradicated. Academia and the so called "educated" have becoming the modern KKK for Regressive leftist politics. Supporting a group like Antifa shoukd have sent up red flags everywhere
The Stig
It already has been for decades.
I have very little sympathy for either Weinstein or his wife. I attended UCSC (where they got their postdocs, I think) and had to transfer. It was just as bad as Evergreen.
The wife says it all: “we thought we’d be ok within the framework of higher ed.” Notice there was a momentary flash across her face....because why? The arguments are more sophisticated? I don’t think so.
It was because they thought they shared the same ideology.
It reveals the rank smugness with which academics regard themselves.
The Weinsteins have been perpetuating the very shallowness that has made them martyrs.
The left eats its own, and postmodern intersectional political theory is its primary dining utensil.
A while ago this sort of thing would have been on 60 minutes. Now it makes it to a little corner of RUclips.
You are 100% correct. The mainstream (fake news) media is complicit in omitting vital information that Americans need to know.
KarmaWalker 60 Minutes spent decades pimping for Fidel. The was never a time when the program opposed the authoritarian left.
Main stream, 48miniets is rotten, as technology changed, analog, digital, internet, smart phones, as the changes came in the cynical theories came.with the people,
Im telling any young person to study the pure idea at uni, physics, accounting, GIS etc, and start a RUclips channel and report on it, ideas, rather than study liberal arts. Or take an appentaship as a gap year, learn a lifetime skill instead.
Yes and I’m incredibly disturbed by this. This evergreen incident should have been covered by all
Mainstream media outlets .. instead there was nothing
60 minutes would NEVER show this because it attacks the hand that feeds it.
Most frightening moment:
Peter - "I asked the officer of Diversity & Inclusion to meet with him to have a conversation with him about Diversity & Inclusion and he reported me for professional misconduct."
Heather - "That's straight out of the playbook"
It’s scary
To hear Bret say that without the help of Joe, Sam and Dave, that they would've gone under is actually really fuckin scary.
It's really really scary
Makes you appreciate Joe, Sam, and Dave more.
I honestly get more excited when this channel post something than any other I follow! Keep up the good work!
yes... I can't wait for the proper documentaries from this crowd...
this is like the nerdy avengers
Lol. So true!!
Thank God for the sanity you people display. Please keep going.
What's fascinating is how much this has been incorporated into business and corporate culture. Academia was the starting point, it has spread.
Companies like Google have diversity officers just like the Universities who push this train of thought into the corporations.
I was a diversity officer for the staff of a Federal Prison and the entire idea was logically inconsistent. And this was several years ago. I have since retired.
My heart hurts over what happened to the Weinsteins.
It's sad, but they won their lawsuit and have friends in their corner.
@@ProjectMadKow my understanding is that there was a $500k settlement pursuant to which evergreen admitted no wrongdoing and both heather and bret gave up their tenured professorship positions. whether this is a "win" isn't exactly clear.
Thank you Peter Boghossian for putting yourself out there and taking a bullet for what's right!!!!!
Avery Brooks yeah, Armenians doing some good for America. Not like that stupid race traitor bitch on TYT
Gerard he’s an American philosopher you nitwit. He just has Armenian roots. Same goes for Anna Kasparian who was born in LA. For Pete’s sake, these comments on RUclips are mind boggling stupid, I just can’t .. I give up
May we all have the strength to do the same when it comes for us. liberte, egalite, fraternite!
This gives me hope for the future. Thank you all from the bottom of my heart. Thank you!
Several members of this group strike me as super fatalistic about academia. Many profs are just doing their work and not attempting to start stuff like at Evergreen, in the way that black professor orchestrated students to target others.
@@ricodelavega4511 But this stuff has spread throughout the universities and biggest corporations of the English language world (i.e. the Five Eyes: US, Canada, UK, Australia and NZ). Many profs are indeed going about their work, just as they did (or do) in the Communist world and other neo-totalitarian regimes. But the identity and grievance cultures are highly motivated and energised, clothed in infallible and religion-like certainty, against which the protection of tenure and unions are useless. While whiffs of this ideology are being felt in Europe, its advance in the white-dominant English-derived societies may be due to the exploitation of guilt regarding colonialism and its evils. It pains me to see colleagues who are personally opposed to this ideology but don't dare to act against it, even when in their own departments a minority, being loud proponents of "Equity, Diversity and Inclusion", start taking over politically.
@@awuma Glenn Loury frequently engages in academic conferences related to race. That's what Peter B should do, actually try to produce some scholarship related to race or gender. He states these fields are legit, just corrupted by the vast majority of scholars in these. That suggest PB believes there may be scholars in these departments he admires. He should seek them out, even if they dont want to acknowledge him publicly.
@@ricodelavega4511 How do you know he isn’t doing just that and I silent on behalf of these academics?
Even in this video they say that while there are probably a measurable population of faculty in universities that might be silently agreeing but refuse to publicly acknowledge, what they have discovered is much more important for the students to make them aware of the snakeoil being sold in the guise of a societal cure.
Additionally, these people you are talking about are held to the exact same rigid standards as these professors once were. Hell, Bret just wanted to teach his class like normal! But no, that wasn’t up to par with the updated grievance scholarship. So, for minding his own business, just because his actions can be loosely associated with disagreement, he was attacked, accosted and then hunted down like an animal. That’s what the mere implication of association with these ideas will get you.
If it ever leaked that Loury was TALKING to these people? Instant Hearsay charge by his own colleagues. He’d be sold out in a heartbeat and sent down the River to drown. It would be unethical to facilitate such things when he doesn’t want any public association at all.
"Grievance Studies" LOL, that's the perfect term.
Jump to 6:20 if you've been following this project for a while now and want to get to the new content.
Gawd! Ty!
Ty!
I love all these videos keep them up please
Aren't you tired of the same content? Haven't you figured out "the answer" yet?
Jesus, Bret and Heather's points on "weaponizing something" was prescient.
if Peter B is really interested in staying in academia, he should probably take the initiative and engage with scholars with some of these fields he satirized/hoaxed.
@@ricodelavega4511 You're joking right?
Every person involved in the Sokal Squared hoax had a history of trying to engage grievance fields directly. Academics in these fields rarely, if ever, tolerate criticism, which is why they moved on to the hoax.
I have huge respect and gratitude towards every member of the conversation in this video.
In 1972, when I was a student at UCLA with my major in Psychology, I took an elective class in Philosophy. The professor would regularly give the class a subject to write a paper about, arguing and supporting (with footnotes) the side of the argument of one's choice. One week the subject was: "Is There A Right to be Born?" I researched and submitted my paper supporting my position (and belief) of "Yes, there is a right to be born." The paper was returned to me, noting that I had failed the assignment. Rather than accept the failure, I asked if I could resubmit. I was told, "Yes." As an experiment, I decided to do a complete 180 degree flip on my position, arguing that there is no right to be born and supporting abortion because "a fetus is not a human being," completely opposite of my actual beliefs. I submitted that paper and was shocked to see that I received an "A." I saved the paper and often re-read the notations from the Teaching Assistant to remind me how the Left has taken over our learning institutions. And since then, I see it getting worse every year.
It breaks my heart to see the bastardization of higher education prevalent in American university.
Make no mistake this bastardization is not in every field, its the outlier.
This is one of the most explosive and important pieces of research in the past two decades and it's going to go way under the radar. Hallelujah
Another great video Mike.
I have a great amount of respect for all the academics involved, but I could listen to Brett Weinstein all day. He's just so interesting to listen to, I can see why he was such a loved teacher.
It is utterly heart-breaking how Weinstein was driven out of his profession. He speaks with such calmness, despite the ominous place where are today.
Excellent summary video of this issue! I love that you are continuing to keep this story alive and present!
"There is no objective knowledge" is self-contradictory.
"There is no objective knowledge..."
How would you know?
I just wanted to finally know who is Milo Yianopoulous, I knew some clips, seen a very few clips with crazy people (Big Red), but I was still fully in Blue Pill World (gonna describe the period pre-2016 very simplistic). Hell, in 2016 I started reading The Guardian.
Anyway, I watched 2 episodes of JRE with Milo, and got to know The Rubin Report (of which I became a fan). That was early 2017. And I end up here, very very deep into a very nasty rabbit hole.
I watched so much, I listened so damn much (since I can, because of the nature of my work, every working day I got my mp3 player filled with podcasts, YT livestreams, etc), because I wanted to know what's going on here. I did get there was apparently a Free Speech issue developing.
In the Netherlands too I hear the language of people of institutions, I see the language of newspapers, I see the disgraceful attitude of our national news broadcaster, the NOS, and the number of people here who seem to really get it are extremely limited. Maybe there are a few more, but I only know 2 people here in NL who has a real grasp of what's going on: Sid Lukkassen and Sietske Bergsma. Marijn Poels (director of docus The Uncertainty Has Settled & Paradogma) seems to get to that level of awareness too.
What I basically tried to do the past 2+ years, especially after I got a grasp of what's happening, is looking at developments, dynamics, etc. And by now I feel highly.....unsettled. And lonely. Because, who the hell am I going to talk about this. And how. I see how many people I know are way too much influenced by mainstream news, how I'm suddenly "not with" someone because I don't see how a certain politician is sexist as fuck and a thread to all women's rights. How that split happened? I listened to the person, they heard the narrative via the MSM.
I barely have changed, besides being more mature than in the past, but in general I still have the same worldview, the same political stances, the same attitude towards people, etc. I used to be on the same level as most other people around me. Free speech has always been a no 1 principle of mine, which was no problem at all back when I was around the whole Occupy movement (Yep, had one in Amsterdam too). Now I'm suddenly some sort of thread...
Great times people, great times.
Living here in california, a hotbed for this mind virus, I wholeheartedly see where you’re coming from. Sometimes it feels like I’m going insane. How the fuck am i surrounded completely by people that are that ignorant of these ideas?!
YESSSS, i always felt this story never got enough exposure! thanks for this! subbed n bell
"I really wanted to get into Fat Studies, but my grades weren't high enough..." said nobody, ever. I've met a lot of ppl trapped in second rate academic programs, because they couldn't manage in the program they wanted: math and chemistry not good enough to be in biofuels, end up in cultural anthropology, etc.
Brilliant and courageous minds.
Not really. They are still only appealing to the useless minority.
Just to add... I do disagree vigorously with the orthodoxy of any movement. So for instance, the term “cis” appended to woman or man makes me crazy. To not understand that “ whiteness” isn’t monolithic in terms of privilege is sickening, and any inability to critique is dangerous.
This and other videos help me greatly in discussing the issues with normis, thanks
random thing, but I learned a little while back that the bourgeoisie was basically the pre 19th century term for normie. I was pretty happy when I figured this out, and surprised that bourgeoisie looks so different spelled than it sounds.
The fuck is a normie?
@@Jajalaatmaar Normies are people oblivious of the culture war. Gamer gate may have coined the term. I am surprised that you published gamer videos and have not come across it.
@@nickmagrick7702 Not quiet. The oppression olympics of pitting oppressor and oppressed has many historical parallels. Master-slave, bourgeoisie-proletariat, male-female white-black etc... The divide and conquer intersecting along ever increasing class dimensions. Normies are the the non combatant civilians usually oblivious to the culture war. Their hearts and minds are the battleground and object of the culture war. They may be middle class but are not yet indoctrinated by the "woke army" or their opponents.
This is something that normies can get on board with. I think what makes it palatable is the dispassionate academic approach. It is fun subversion and trolling to get to the truth and bottom of corruption that most can't put their finger on.
Culture war trolling can get a bit self serving and esoteric. The whole gamergate 4chan HWNDO KEK Trump progression can be a bit hard for normies to swallow.
Strangely enough people that lived in communist countries can sense the parallels and know how to navigate this miasma.
These guys are all my spirit animals.
I'm glad your thoughts and words are up Shapiro's ass.
Brett from 11:23 is so salient with his perception of modern academia, the social justice movement and left-wing politics.
Probably because he's the biggest victim of it in its history lol
Love this... anyone looking inside can see it is madness. You maniacs, went inside to show/prove it from the inside!
Is PSU going to be OK with this?
They will come for me.
And they did.
Great point by Bret at 8:30 on postmodernism. Also impressed with his predictive powers at 14:35 in how this hoax would be received.
Outstanding work all of you. This demands far greater exposure.
I have to say that Brett and Heather are my two favorite people in the “intellectual dark web”. They first and foremost are on the left, which is where I come from, they also seem to be the people arguing in good faith all the time. They don’t try to get “gotcha” moments from their opposition. They really seem to want to add sanity to the discussion. They don’t seem to have any agenda other than striving for open inquiry and honesty in academia.
James and Helen also seem to be coming from the same position. Peter’s position sounds a little more biased to me, but it could just be because he’s a little more openly vocal about his distaste for the social justice ideologues. Peter uses more “us vs them” rhetoric, while the others (especially Brett and Heather) use language that make it sound like their arguments are far less adversarial, sounding like it’s US needing to get better.
Thank you for your collective academic integrity, diligence and humor.
Can't wait for full doc!
Please write this investigation up and try to find an academic journal that will publish it. Focus may need to change to something positive like “Impact of Pre-Conceived Agenda and Orientation on Publication Rate in Social Science”. It may not be a grievance study journal, but what about a psychology journal? Conclusions need to include a statement to the effect that journal reviewers should examine implicit bias when reviewing papers, and suggest perhaps that to truly reduce implicit bias, journals should routinely have additional reviewers outside the immediate field also review prior to publication.
If you only go with a public video you will not begin to build up a scientifically legitimate bulwark against the obviously ‘fluffy’ papers that are being published as ostensibly legitimate. Please publish this as the research that it is!
I didn't know I wanted to hear a "prepare for battle" speech from Bret but boy, oh boy, am I glad that I did.
Once again, Mike, what a terrific video! The quality is superb, the music choices are well-considered, the shots are beautifully blended. That's to say nothing of the content, which comes home to me like truth. Well done!
I'd like to think students will heed the call to come to reality but I fear they enjoy the permanent state of righteous indignation too much.
I would have LOVED to have any of these guys as my professors in undergrad or graduate school...instead I had a bunch of postmodernists, with good intentions....but who only wanted to teach me and indoctrinate me in post modernism.
Imagine a university where you can learn philosophy from Peter Boghossian, Biology from Heather Heying, Psychology from Jordan Peterson, Evo Psych from Gad Saad, Mathematics from Eric Weinstein....
That ...would be a world-class education.
And I think it's possible.
Jordan Pederson dresses up his religion to proselytize to atheists. I don't think he's the best call for a psychology prof.
@Jack Schitt
Hahaha....
Not for everyone, I suppose.
@@WhoTookMyMirr Well that's debatable...
@@JG-ts2ud not really. Look at the rigid order vs chaos theory he loves so much. It's the same black and white vision of the world as Christian belief. The man has an entire book chapter where he goes on lengthy tangents about the Garden of Eden, ffs.
@@WhoTookMyMirr Okay.
People with integrity and intelligence...a novel idea. Thanks for the work all of you are doing.
This is essential information.
It sounds like they need to found The Weinstein University for Higher Learning.
Offer an alternative with proper instruction and research paths.
I hate to put a monetary spin on this but it's needed. The message needs to get to as many main stream citizens as possible. YOUR tax dollars are paying their salaries! YOU are paying for your children to study these things! Students are taking on loans for degrees that will likely NEVER contribute to society or their success as adults! People need to think in these terms and vote with their pocketbook. We also need to be certain our elected officials know our stance. Go to your local school board meetings! Ask questions! Challenge them!
It's like the #1 rule in business, IF THE MONEY DOESN'T WORK, NOTHING WORKS.
It's more than just paying the salaries, there are political and corporate policies based on these fields of study. Consider for example that a very high percentage of law grads going into public service, i.e. future district attorneys, judges and legislators, have a foundation in grievance studies. Consider also that most corporations now have a chief diversity officer. Additionally, most grads of any major are increasingly required to complete a certain number of grievance studies courses.
You guys are all doing great work. I love whenever a new update appears in my subscriptions.
Evergreen state college is an experimental college and dose NOT represent the majority of colleges in america
Evergreen state college is an experimental college and dose NOT represent the majority of colleges in america
I ❤️ Heather’s calm demeanor. Brett should be a Presidental Advisor to whoever is in the White House to explain the insanity.
I do not have the words to express the love I have for these people. Thank you Mike Nayna, for documenting this.
This is nothing new; cultural studies was the rage in academe in the late 1980's and early 1990's. There was a lot a trashy post modern clap trap then too.
They’re like team Winston in America’s growing 1984
Dont say that☹
President of the Secrete Sankcake Server, is it not true?
“Though the academic authorities are actually proud of conducting everything by means of Examinations, they seldom indulge in what religious people used to descibe as Self-Examination. The consequence is that the modern State has educated its citizens in a series of ephemeral fads.” - Nash’s Pall Mall Magazine, April, 1935
“The position we have now reached is this: starting from the State, we try to remedy the failures of all the families, all the nurseries, all the schools, all the workshops, all the secondary institutions that once had some authority of their own. Everything is ultimately brought into the Law Courts. We are trying to stop the leak at the other end.” - Illustrated London News, March 24, 1923~~~G.K Chesterton.
This is so important! I'm eagerly waiting for the full length documentary.
As a lifelong progressive, and a graduate of The Evergreen State College who witnessed the horrifying turn that the Left has taken over the past few years, I am beyond impressed, inspired, and most of all, hopeful by this brave undertaking. I have shared this video on social media, and will continue updating myself with the latest developments.
Side note: please, please, PLEASE put this on Netflix! Make the call!
75 years since D-Day today. Your work is merely an extension of the liberal democratic dream they fought and died for by the thousands. You give me hope for the future!
*No wonder the Left is falling apart..... Good work!!*
I love hearing from Brett, Heather andEric. Always enlightening.
This is *CRUCIAL.* Get this in front of every student you can! Yes, you! Reading this! *Do your part!*
Many thanks for posting this, Mike. Good stuff here.
Thank you for what you’re doing here. Both the videos themselves and the people involved here deserve respect.
Thank you. Great and very disturbing content. Please persist. Keep up your efforts.
aw sweet, at 4am I have to be first
Im glad your talking about this stuff, but whats different with this video from the others you have made so far? Doesn't look like any new information is being introduced.
God damn I know this is off point, but they have the best view from a house ive ever seen. That porch or w/e it is, is amazing. And I don't normally care about how a house looks or decor or anything like that.
12:46 spider in your hair dude
hmmmm, 2pm for me ;)
Nearly midnight here in New Zealand
damn everyone here is from different places. Thats promising actually.
Thanks Mike. I’ve been following this fiasco since 2017, primarily through Benjamin Boyce’s RUclips channel
This is absolutely riveting! This should be mandatory viewing for anyone enrolling in post-secondary education. Let's make it high school curriculum.
1. Mike you are a brave man, this probably hasn't been easy (for anyone involved), and I know you were reluctant in the beginning, but you are doing great and really important work here. 2. Please start using the brave browser and add your channel there, so I (and others) can start tipping you BAT currency. 3. Again great editing! Even though it's mainly just a conversation, the details you put in always gives an extra layer & depth to it. All the best from Amsterdam. 🙏🏻
As a progressive, I have always suspected that some of the gender and equality studies programs in academia lack the truth that comes from genuine scientific rigorous research. This proves that the humanities and social sciences need to return to the drawing boards and take "science methodology" seriously to heart. Shame on the gender studies, masculinities studies, and the equality studies journals! Shame on the academic world. Shame on universities. Let's get back to real science and throw out the lazy thinkers in these departments. Somebody, please talk to Michael Moore about doing a documentary!
Wow....electric interaction. Kinda feels like planning for the "Crusades." Noble people, noble cause, hopefully a rising consciousness.
Just to reiterate what's been quite rightly said over and over, this needs to be on Netflix. xx
I love these people (even though I believe that evolutionary psychology is junk science). I don't have to agree with everything these folks say to defend their right to freely share their ideas without fear of being fired or tarred as racist/misogynist/fascists.
I'm on team Nurture, but I am disgusted by the way people who disagree with me are treated.
Also - I could be wrong, and we must ALWAYS be open to being wrong so that we can move forward as a society.
Postmodernism is asinine, and I fully support academic freedom and open debate.
Brett Weinstein, Heather Heying, James Lindsay, Helen Pluckrose, and Peter Boghossian are my heroes - and they should be heroes to ANYONE who believes in Free Speech and academic freedom.
Ever see that crime series "Fear Thy Neighbor"? The warring neighbors seem to kind of thrive and live, in a way, for the conflict...both sides...until somebody dies. I think that SJWs and Critical Race theorists have become addicted to the titillation of things like "microaggressions". There's no end and CAN'T BE an end to their "struggle".
I look forward to seeing the documentary. I’d say I’m center left or probably now more moderate middle (if that exists) because I care about others and know we aren’t given equal opportunities. Or lost skills from injury or disease, i.e. society isn’t fair. So some kindness is needed in places.
HOWEVER I think the SJWs or far Left extremists are causing the opposite of what they want to happen. When you see the common person voting for the likes of Trump (who I despise) you know a lot of it is in spite of this insane extreme PC nonsense. It’s created massive polarisation of the western world.
For example if you don’t agree with the SJW extremists opinions then you are an ‘oppressor’, with no room to even debate why you disagree. Ironically that is the SJWs oppressing your opinion.
Anyway I’ve dug my heals in and am a lot more crass and less PC myself because the SJWs piss me off so much! I use to listen to the reasons why, but I noticed a bombastic attitude and dogma on grievance issues that I suspected not to be even true. Then I discovered this video and feel relief that its been proven to be nonsense yet is condoned by this ‘far’ left movement.
My question is, are the people involved in the nonsense in communication with each other working on a grand plan? Or is this just organically evolving a bit like ‘Chinese Whispers’ (Opps can’t say Chinese anymore) but the message gets more empowered, trendy and pompous as it evolves.
I originally believed the latter, as noticed 17 years ago those that went to gender studies, high on their pedestal, looking down on us less educated folk and getting a kick out of correcting people, ‘calling out’ an individual in public. Embarrassing that person, (Why not talk to that person quietly in private I thought). but it’s because the SJW loves absorbing the glory of their mob.
But I’m now wondering is there a network of people engineering this social justice stuff for other reasons. I hear claims that it’s political, and economic but I don’t see true Marxism, some parallels. There’s no leader and political party attached? Definitely not the Democrats because they are in the pockets of corporations just like the Republicans.
Anyway what’s the end game? Is any actual group running this shit, or is it a bad social trend with thousands of egomaniacs lapping it up and spreading it further like Covid?
Looking at Heather, Brett is priviliged AF.
A wife who doesn't respect you enough to take your last name? Did he even reproduce?
No kids. Neither does his brother. They are failures
@@Gnolomweb What? Bret and Heather have kids! Eric has kids too. Stupid troll.
@@miszminska7594 Link source? I researched on Google before I posted. Cant find anything about it.
I remember as an undergrad and talking to women’s studies majors, my friends. I’d encounter some post modern illogical ideas. All I could think....maybe they’re rejecting logic because... it’s feminism....it’s going to be all emotion because emotion is feminine.
Brent and his wife were eaten by the monster they helped build...now they are making a living opposing it
Douglas Denham the left is ultimately nihilistic and bound to become self destructive. The division within in the ideology will lead its members to attacking one another.
They didn't build any of it. They just taught biology at a liberal school.
@@duncansutherland47 This seems to be true from mid- to far-left (also fear is involved). Once the mid- has been overtaken, the left is done; however, centre-left and classical liberalism is not nihilistic nor are the doctrines, philosophies, speakers, and foundational figures (though, this is also being overtaken by the extremists).
What Bret, Heather, et al. are describing in this video is precisely the same kind of problematic groupthink that people engaged in during the Communist scare in the 1950s, and the Salem witch hunts in the late 17th century, and the Spanish Inquisition in the late 15th century. These phenomena are hallmarked by the inability to question, and leveling of the maximum level mistreatment permissible in each era toward the people who dare to speak up and resist going along.
To be clear, as Bret has said: the core of social justice is an excellent goal. The problem is that "Social Justice Warriors" and their ilk are attempting to execute this goal in mostly perverted and flawed ways.
Heather at 16:26… so matter of fact chilling. She and Bret know what’s coming - they can’t do anything about it and you can feel their pain but strength. Incredible moment.
I want to post this video to the internal Yammer page for Div/Equ/Incl of the company for which I work.
Shall I put it under the heading of "Diverse thought"? D'you think I'll get fired?
Edit. Rhetorical question.
I see Bret. *I CLICK*
Does the fact that neither his nor his brother's wife took their last name AND they both sired no children make you think less of them? I think that.
"Not the brand." This is the key.
As a lefty sanders supporter, these sorts of people are the reason why the alt right got more popular. I think if you see this and change your political standing to right wing, that's weak minded. However if you recognize this and see the problems in your own leaning and identify them and make movements to correct them as these people have, as they say studying these things is important. That's more in line with the ideal. Don't fall victim to "the left extreme was mean to me so now I'm right wing" that's beyond moronic and it shows you have weak principles. This is why I'm glad AOC supported sanders and rejected identity politics, and instead embraced policy.
I am moving over to Bitchute. Youtub just keeps adding layers of advertising and with adding all the censorship I think it's time to move on.
This is CRAZY... watching this discussion that occurred BEFORE they were exposed. It's eerie how accurate they were about everything that would transpire. This is AMAZING work Mike.
Will there be a feature length docco on this? The topic is screaming for a two-hour doco
There is, yeah. Join me tomorrow if you're around, I can answer in more detail - ruclips.net/video/K7iFIhUVHuw/видео.html
Dream panel: these 5 + Jordan Peterson, Camille Paglia and Christina Hoff Sommers.
from my experience, the "academic" will attack the methodology of the papers. They will say that "everyone knows" the studies are flawed
Dude was using Ubuntu. A Linux man. Sweet...
Good job Mike, et al. Real academia must be preserved against this new unsubstantiated bs.
How is this not out raging real scientist? The peer review process in an integral part of every branch of science. If the peer review process can be corrupted it cast doubt on all of science. This will be a propaganda tool to deny and discredit all of science. I understand that it would be harder to corrupt the peer review process of say chemistry then it would be in gender studies. But that is not the point. The point is that a process that is integral to chemistry can possibly be corrupted by ideology this casts doubt on on everything.
Cannot smash the like enough. This is even better than the evergreen series. These people are the real avengers #RealAvengers
At this point anyone who doesn't recognize so called social justice and intersectional feminism have authoritarian aims is either lying, or not paying attention.
these videos have been an amazing series Mike really informative and scary, well done
I did an 'advanced psychology of women' paper at uni and it really gave me a shock. I thought it was going to be about how men and women differ psychologically, but it was about feminism and power. And being the only male in that class was a little uncomfortable haha, although my fellow students were super nice about it
I am 62, I was born into a completely different world. Yes, I've seen things change (obviously) but it all changed so gradually. And now I look at the world and all I see is total insanity. I just can't get my head around all the crazy stuff that has come about, which now passes for normal. As far as I know, nothing like this has ever happened in the history of mankind. It's totally frightening, it's totally destructive for our civilization. I think Bret is right: the main force behind all this is power. It looks like reason is subordinate to power. If that's the case, what are we to do? Anyway, on the bright side: Mike is doing a fantastic job. Keep it up, my friend.
Isn't this what happened in Russia when the Bolsheviks revolted? So far these Marxists have been relatively less violent.
Keep in mind you're now constantly confronted by opinions of people all over the world at near the speed of light. This might not be a massive shift in culture as much as it is an inundation of information you've only been exposed to in the last 2 decades. It's also increasingly becoming monetized and leveraged politically.
I think it's a bit of an overreaction to claim this has never happened and it's totally destructive for our civilization. Corruption has been worse in the past, and with worse consequences. That doesn't excuse what's going on, but it doesn't mean the correct reaction is to panic and give up on everything assuming everything is irreparably corrupt.
I’m happy Bret has committed to fixing the problem his old college has shown to be a significant threat to society. The only issue is their findings are remarkably scary and I fear we’re too late to stop these people.
Re-titled Mein Kampf accepted - I keep telling everyone that National Socialism has more to do with the Left than the Right!
PSU, my beloved alma mater, will be doing its current and future students a great disservice if it fires Dr. Boghossian. He is the best professor that I studied under outside of the school of engineering. Students should have their minds opened at uni not closed. For what it is worth, you can count me as an ally in your stand against idea laundering.
Tim Gulzow
The reason I believe I can trust the academic journal process is less about what is published than what published works are cited in subsequent works.
Did this exercise find that the hoax documents were used in later documents?