The Best Torque Wrench? Testing German 1/2 Hazet Gedore Wera
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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No lb ft scale preferred here beacuse it elimates user error from setting to the wrong scale. Hazet is a European brand and European cars publish fasteneing torque values in Nm. Some manufactuers (eg Norbar) make the same wrench in two versions, one dual-scaled and one metric only. I buy the metric only. When you don't have to work on American cars, or British cars more than 50 years old, you simply don't need a lb ft scale cluttering up your tool.
thanks I will by Hazet
No problem! Glad it helped!
Hello, about the ks tools wrench, when you set it (like you show at 2:15), does the red line indicator match the rotating handle? Say you aim for 40nm, does the red line hit the '40' marking and does the handle say '0'? Mine does not line up and I don't know if i should trust the rotating handle or the red line.
Honestly I can’t remember, but I normally go by the handle in those cases. I have seen this before with other wrenches.
Thank you wanted to buy the Wera good thing I watch youtube first.
No problem! Glad you found it useful!
Top notch review as always. 👍As a german fellow, Stahwille is pronounced Sh-tahlwill-uh instead of Stahlwilly. 😁
Thanks! Figured I would pronounce at least one wrong. I have a hard enough time reading German, let alone pronouncing it lol. I work for Krone here in the US and we all say it how it’s spelled which is wrong lol.
@@Tools-Tested kind of like brands like Hyundai pronounce their own name wrong in the german commercials to make it easier for us to talk about it 😂
I couldn't TU this video fast enough!!! Thanks!
You're welcome!
Hazet: because it's german and the rest of the world use metric.
If you are already on the way to be accurate and use a torque wrench you also better start using metric as there is less chance of making mistakes like with imperial systems. You don't ride carriage anymore do you? So why still use an ancient system above one that scientifically makes sense?
KS Tools is not a manufacturer of anything. They just slap their label on cheap tools that might or might not be any good.
Well, most of these are just rebadged stuff.
The Hazet seems like the best option for currently 113€, the *Stahlwille is more than twice that.
Thanks for the comparison.
No problem! Thanks for the info on KSTools.
Please check Stahlwille MANOSKOP 730N, similar 730 Quick showed in to video
Actually, the machinery I work on - chain saws, John Deere tractors, Kubota Diesel Zero Turn, Kubota RTV, several ATVs - the fasteners are all metric and the shop manuals give the torque in Nm. For me, at least, having a torque wrench that was designed from scratch to adjust directly in Nm is a feature. The Nm on the back of wrenches designed in lb-ft with Nm as an after thought adjusts differently and is easy to make a wrong setting. I have one bicycle torque wrench that is directly in Nm and I really like it. That wrench being directly in Nm is, to me, a feature. I'd really like a set of accurate click type wrenches that were only in Nm and covered the range from 2 Nm to 340 with three wrenches with over lapping ranges. I have that in lb-ft with three wrenches - the bicycle wrench and two HF ICON wrenches.
That’s a very good point I hadn’t considered. If you were in a rush, one could easily mistake the units.
It’s easy to do the conversion with a quick google search anyways 🧰 🛠️ ⚒️
Stahlwille is the best Brand in Germany. The Chrom, the Detail´s and its just perfect... i like Hazet too and Gedore... but Stahlwille is something spezial to me.
Hazet was in the past time rly good, but its more and more not that good then before.
If u wanna have stuff for the next 100 Years, buy Stahlwille and Knipex.
Interesting to see the performance of these. I only have the Wera one, but in a 3/8" drive which is one of the most accurate wrenches I have tested. I haven't tested mine after 1000 operations though. Teng torque wrenches are supplied in a blow molded case, not sure if you have that manufacturer over in USA. Their 3/8 drive was just as accurate as the Wera, I did get a 1/2 drive in the Teng, but found it wasn't as accurate.
I do like the Stahlwille torque wrench, they do carry a premium price though.
Yeah now that you mention it I do remember your Wera video. Maybe I just received a fluke.
Teng is available in the us, but has to be ordered online and is a little pricey compared to other options. They tried to gain market share here a few years back by providing some YT car channels free fully loaded tool boxes. That’s actually how I learned they existed.
Stahlwille seems like good quality, but I agree $$$.
@@Tools-Testedthey did a similar thing here in Britain about 10-15 years ago by gifting Ed China (Wheeler Dealers mechanic of the time) a fully sorted array of TENG tools. They were prolific in every shot. I too hadn’t paid them any attention until then. 😅
Have you made a video on the TENG 1/2”? I couldn’t see any more recent TR videos than the 3/8” one yesterday…
@@NewWorldHoarder no sadly I haven’t done the Teng and 1/2 only the 3/8
@@NewWorldHoarder No I haven't made a video of the Teng 1/2". One in my to do list.
Thanks for testing. Happy holidays to everyone
No problem! Happy holidays!
I'll go with Stahlwille.
Same.
I do myself have two Hazet 5000-series torque wrenches, they are considered the lower end from Hazet. The higher end 6000-series that have +/- 2% accuracy do come in a box instead of a plastic tube. Another advantage not mentioned here is that Hazet states that you don't have to put them back to the lowest settings between uses to maintain their accuracy.
Thanks for the information, I’ll have the check out the 6000 series.
Norbar (uk) makes the same claim about not needing to dial back to the lowest setting for storage. They did some tests and found that micrometer clickers in general were ok left with the spring compressed, especially if they are getting used semi-regularly.
@@sevenninthsfabmachine interesting I almost forgot about Norbar.
Stahlwille makes the same claim. They have a very special design of the internal mechanism which isn't under pressure if you don't use the wrench.
Wera used to get their torque wrenches from Norbar, an English company founded in 1942. They are widely used in industry particularly in fixed torque and specialist applications. They are now owned by the Snap On Corporation which might explain why they no longer make torque wrenches for other tool brands.
Snap-On ruins everything. A great example of why free market and unregulated capitalism SUCKS!
Would have liked to see Tohnichi Japanese torque wrenches featured --- they're common in manufacturing.
Interesting I will have to check them out.
Video was all German brands but yeah Tohnichi is tops in the torque wrench world and very common on assembly lines.
Hazet is nice! but still the Quinn digital torque adapters and torque wrenches are fantastic!
Yep the Quinn digital adapters are a great value.
Thanks for this video. I found a good deal on the Hazet and it seems like a great option. Personally I don't mind not having freedom units on the Hazet torque wrench as I work in NM and it avoids any misreading ;)
No problem! Nice find.
Stahlwille is very good as they do not have to be set to zero after use. The spring is not activated until you pull the key.
Yep easy to use and you don't have to zero it for storage.
No loss not having imperial,
We use Stahlwille and Hazet at work. They get thousands of clicks per year. Both are awesome and are accurate after years of use. Some of the small max 60NM Hazet did break the adjustment locking mechanism because the operators did unintentionally turn the handle grip while using the torque wrench. We had very expensive Gedore torque wrenches before which where painful slowly to adjust and did fail somewhere inside the mechanism after 2-3 years. They had no ratchet which is sometimes a advantage when using it around cnc machines
Interesting, thanks for the info.
Of course that Hazeti is already $30+ more than it was. 😅
lol, the times we live in. You can literally watch the prices go up in realtime.
Woah, that's interesting! I have the wera - it cost just $120 here in poland and I will definetly send it to them in order to get it calibrated after watching this video. It's been a year since I bought it anyways.
Yeah probably wouldn't hurt to check.
wow, I expected better out of Wera.
Yeah I wasn’t expecting the Wera to do bad.
Why don't you also text the Italian brand 'beta' torque wrench? Maybe the 666 model? Don't you know it? Thanks. Bye.
They haven't been real common in the US, but I did see the other day Lowes is now selling them. Hopefully at some point I can test them.
Beta ? Not a Spanish brand? Usag was italian
@@14KiloWhisky 'beta' and 'usag' are Italian brands
@@14KiloWhisky No, it is a product made in Italy.
You forgot about Proxxon 23353 Micro Click MC200
So I ordered it from Amazon DE and the processing warehouse here in the US screwed up and sent me someone’s wallpaper order. Hopefully at some point I can try again but it was out of stock so I proceeded to make the video. Sadly KC tool the main German tool importer here doesn’t sell it.
It's really impressive to me that the Icon splitbeam still compares fairly well even to several very well reputed German brands. It'd be a phenomenal product regardless of who sold it, but especially coming from Harbor Freight.
Yeah it really is impressive, they seem to be focusing on higher quality tools. HF has come a long way.
It might be an outlier. These cheapos are very inconsistent. One is very accurate and the next isn't. Maybe in this test you were just lucky.
@@ThomSteelThat's what you'd think, but he's tested several different icon torque wrenches as far as I recall, and they've all consistently performed well. And even if they don't, due to the HF warranty, you'd be able to just return it and say it isn't reading accurate and get a new one.
@@KeterMalkuth Normally an average user doesn't have anything to check whether his wrench is accurate or not.
Interesting results, especially over long term use, I have a (120 lb.ft?) 3/8" and a 250 lb.ft 1/2" WERA.
If I might suggest you compare the test results to the "calibration" test documentation that should have been included with the tools?
CDI Torque Products and Precision Instruments, unless you're one of those that likes paying 100-200% mark-up to be a Snap-off brah.
It's a pity noone tests the standard Stahlwille 730N without the QuickSet feature. The standard ones have 3% accuracy and I think that the QuickSet mechanism might be a bit inaccurate, also to really hit the right Nm value. So it would be really interesting how the 730N without QuickSet feature would have performed.
Very nice review, informative.
But why Hazet 5122-2CT instead of "5122-3CT" for laboratory testing or to compare with other brands?
3CT is a newer version.
Thanks! I wasn’t aware of a 3CT, only the 2CT is available in the US. I will have to import a 3CT, thanks for the info!
@@Tools-Tested That's ok, no probs.
Just an insight: 2CT is an old model, not sure if they (Hazet) still produce it. But being sold at a very low sale price. And the 3CT came out 2019 I guess. More accurate, more stable and does not need resetting back to the lowest, or park to the lowest after using as manufacturer stated.
Hope, one day you could review a 3CT series to validate their claims. Anyway, I shop German tools mostly from Amazon Germany, a lot cheaper.
I always watch your video/channel when it comes to torque wrenches. Very informative, lots of important details. I'm crazy about torque wrenches.
Probably be a while, but hopefully I can test the 3CT, I’m curious now.
It is the best quality without a doubt (Torque Wrench EVT)
Precision. Under $200 on Amazon. Made in USA. Maybe add to comparison?
Yeah it’s definitely an option, problem is the last PI I tested failed the claimed accuracy test.
That's unfortunate. I have two and just bought one for our son. First I've heard of issues.@@Tools-Tested
@@keadog1838 yeah hopefully it was just a fluke. I need to order another at some point and see.
Something to keep in mind is that, unfortunately, made in U.S.A. and affordable are not a combination you necessarily want to see. U.S. production is inherently expensive. If you find a product that's relatively affordable and which is made in the U.S., there's a good chance that it'll come at expense of quality. That's not to say this is guaranteed- Many European or Japanese tools are affordable and of extreme quality. But just looking at the market realities of how U.S. made tools are priced, it's usually a bad sign. I can't speak as to whether or not the bad testing of the PI is due to this. It's just something that usually leaves me skeptical when I see those two factors combined.
No Facom or king Tony in your country?
Sadly no, we have some Facom rebranded Craftsman V but no torque wrenches yet.
@@Tools-Tested Facom as craftsman? 😁 Thanks to Stanley group... They fucked this top quality brand... 😭
Thanks for another great video. Will you be testing other torque wrenches by any chance? Like Craftsman, Husky, Hart, Pittsburgh, Kobalt, Jobsmart, Gear Wrench, Performance Tool, Duralast and OEM Tools?
Yeah, the actual ones that a mechanic will buy. Or maybe the one that all mechanics end up buying, you know, rhymes with *hack-cough*
I have had many years of trouble free service from my Stahlwille 730r/40 , 80-400 mn torque wrench. The insert tool can be flipped to allow torqueing in the other direction. The 4% deviation is within most fastner clamping force repeatability. Thanks for the vidios, cheers from down under.
Thanks for the info! I agree 4% is fine. No problem cheers!
This went about like I expected. It seems Taiwan is the high tech capital over Germany in many industries these days.
Yep Taiwan has come a long way.
I'm really not all that surprised by Wera. While they have decent screwdrivers, I feel like everything else is mediocre at best, and hyped way way up. Probably because of the whole edgy "TOOL REBEL" moniker. I can agree with you that the Stahlwille and Hazet would be the ones to go with out of that selection.
Yep Wera is definitely over hyped.
Could you test 1/4 expensive torque wrenches? Like, snap on, hazet, stahlwille, gedore, matco etc
Hope to, but it will be a while seeing my Snap On 1/4 tester is down. I’m going to ship it out next week, but who knows when it will come back.
Other than price, are there a reason you would want a mechanical torque wrench instead of a digital one? In a previous video a QUINN digital torque wrench in the sub $200 price range performed good, so this would be my preferred option.
Batteries die. I took my electronic torque wrench with me once and it was a cold day and the batteries went. It wasn't convenient to drive 2 hours round trip to get batteries. But hey if you're better prepared than me or don't get frustrated by that kind of problem, then digital is perfect for you.
I personally prefer mechanical, in a split beam design.
No battery’s, you can torque faster in most cases bc with a digital wrench u have to slow down once u get near the desired torque. You are the accuracy vs a mechanical u keep a constant load and then it clicks. Most digital torque wrench also have a delay before the zero back out allow u to torque another fastener.
@@mediocreman2 That's a valid point I did not think about
@@Tools-Tested Another good point I did not think about, thank you for sharing :)
@@TheJensss no problem! Glad I can help.
Wera is garbage. Not even their screwdrivers have the standard hardness. Yours have nm because everyone who knows their stuff uses metric in the US. Maybe you should just go metric?!
calibrate before and after use, so why use 1000 and expect no movement?
Clearly right over your head? Perhaps the point is to gauge how well the wrenches stay calibrated in a relative sense? Maybe? 😮