Thank you for your thorough video. I have been running 235/65r17 on my '18 FXT for 40k miles. Slight rubbing during the first 25K miles - only in the front in reverse at full lock. I have the 1.5" ADF lift w/rear multi link. Lift should help you clear. I run 17x 7.5" +45 offset w/25mm spacer all around. Winter 225/60r18 on stock wheels w/25mm spacer - no rubbing. Good luck with your lift install.
Your Forester looks great man. I am thinking of adding 235/65/17s on my 2023 Forester Wilderness, and considering the Wildpeak AT3s or the Toyo Open Country A/T IIIs Not really interested in lifting it at this time so this was a great video to help me decide. Definitely gonna do 235/65/17s
Great video. Thanks for your time posting and answering all the previous questions, its really helpful. I have a 2014 xt, same as yours, same colour too. I'm about to get a 2" lift kit and bigger tires, falken wildpeak at trail 235/60 r18 with stock rims (I'll need spacers). The stock tires are 225/55 r18. Its a 5.1% diameter increase from 27.7" up to 29.1". The ones that you use are 29" so the ones that I am about to use are just 2mm more than yours. So I know from now that I will need to do some trimming, no big deal with that. I asked to some local forester owners about my plans and they are concerned about cv stress running larger heavier tires. Have you heard anyone having gearbox, cvt or diferencial problems running larger tires? I tow a own-made teardrop trailer too. Regards from Chile.
Thank you for the kind words! Any size change in tires is gonna cause more wear and tear on your cv and other components. And the larger you go it will put more strain on those components but doesn’t mean that it will cause a significant failure.
Sorry for the end of the video. I tried to do a quick patch replacement for a copywrite claim issue and it deleted my words and seems out of place. I apologize!
hi your set up looks awesome on the foz and by the way I am looking at the same setup for my car also which is se as your And I will going with 235/65/17 falken wildpeak on a 17x8 +45 offset will be in a straight 2 inch spacer lifted will this going to be an issue for this setup will it be rubbing the strut Perch ( my most concerned) please help me out here with you experience thanks
Thank you for sharing this information I tried putting these tires on my 2014 Subaru Forrester Limited and they fit perfectly it was absolutely no rubbing even when turning the front wheel lock to lock there was still no rubbing I had no rubbing in the back tires either so if you’re considering buying a pair of these tires I’m here to let you know that they do fit
Hey David! So I also have a 14' forester and was wondering I bought a set of 235/75/r15s I'm going to have to buy a lift correct I'm a noob to modify vehicles
is it vertical clearance between the tire and the spring perch you're referring to or horizontal? I guess my questoin is would it clear if you had wheels with the stock offset?
Solid tires man. I’ve Had them for 15k now and they are still solid and great on the trail. Took them up a 20 miles jeep trail last weekend and they crushed it
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS I ran the BFG KO2s on my crosstrek for 20k and loved them but trying something new with my new wilderness but the geolander tires aren't aggressive enough for my liking.
@@danieljackson-woods6225 I think you’ll find the Toyota’s to your liking. Way lighter than the BK02’s but look aggressive and act aggressive. But surprisingly quiet and smooth on the road
Thank you! Those are the exact same size as the 235/65/17’s just different configuration so you’ll rub in all the same places mine does with my set up (+20 offset)
I actually got them through throtl.com which honestly I wouldn’t recommend. Nothing on throtls part but it was a special order item bc throtl didn’t have it in stock and it took 3 months to get them delivered. I’d recommend from LP directly OR a website that has them in stock
I have a 19 wrx and am going to be running stock premium 18’s. Am picking up the adf 1” lift, what size tire would you recommend I can get away with without rubbing issues?
Hahaha thanks man! Have you ever checked out @softroadingthewest ? He had an SH and did a ton of videos before it that are really great! He wrecked it and has a frontier now but his older videos are still great for reference for SH owners
Yes it’s a 2.0 XT. I dunno if it would rub or not. My wider offset prevented them from touching the spring perch. It will definitely be closer in stock wheels. You could always get spacers to fix that
I just replaced the tires on my forester to the tire size you featured. the other day. And what i did is i installed 1/4 wheel spacer on the front wheels and the result didn't rub the plastic on both full turns. Thanks for the tip mate.
Great video! came across it while researching for wheel and tire size options for my '19 Forester Sport. I'm thinking of getting a lift too. Just wondering if your forester has already been lifted on this video and if not, did the rubbing go away or decrease after the lift? Thanks!
As of that video no that was all at stock height. Since then I have lifted it. I am extremely happy with the new clearance and will be doing a video soon on the improvements and difference in clearance. With the SJ it actually caused more rubbing and ended up having to trim away the plastic I discussed in this video in front of the pinch weld as well as reshape some of the splash guard with a heat gun. The reason is on the SJ the fender well actually gets narrower towards the bottom so when it got lifted it got closer to the wider portions of the tire. But now that it is trimmed and lifted I could not be happier. I am unaware if the new gens fender Wells do the same as the SJ’s so I cannot answer your question with confidence if it would make it rub more or less. But I would safely say expect to do some sort of remolding or trimming If you go with this set up. But it’s worth it 🤙🏼
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS Wow! Thanks for that very detailed response. Definitely going with the same Toyo tires that you have and I'll also be getting a 2" lift kit. I hope it all fits well and don't have to trim too much of the plastics at the wheel wells. Looking forward to your next uploads.
do you have any rubbings on the sides due to width? my forester came with 225 55 r18 and i want to put 235 55 r18... i went to tire calculator websites and it says the 235 65 r17 has 29" diameter and 9.3" width while original is 28.5" diameter and 8.9"width.. my forester came with 18s and i checked that overall is smaller in diameter and width than the 225 65 r17 setup most foresters comes with, it seems that even if i go 235 55 r18, the diameter is going to be smaller than the 225 65 r17 stock setup, 28.5 vs 28.2 so i shouldn't be running into the same problem you have in this video, my only concern is going from 8.9 to 9.3 width..
No I don’t have any rubbing from the 9.3 tire but I also have wheels with increased backspace and offset, so that changes things a little bit. I am honestly unsure if 235’s on a stock rim would rub or not. I know it would be closer to the spring perch than mine currently and I have about .75-1.0 inch of clearance between the perch and tire currently
Very helpful video. I have 2018 2.5i on stock suspension and wheels and was debating wether going with 235/65 or 235/60…this led me to 235/60 as you mentioned a lift won’t help w rubbing.
Glad I could help! Yea rubbing actually got worse with the lift, due to the geometry of the wheel well narrowing at the bottom. I was surprised. BUT after trimming it fits great and I haven’t looked back. The 12 inches of clearance it has now with the lift has served me well on the trail and I am super happy and impressed
@@NK-vw4ms bro I’m sorry I must of been out of my mind. Of course it’s impressive Bc it’s wrong lol!!! I have 10.7 inches of clearance but it’s a significant amount. Just did a jeep trail last weekend. 20 miles and didn’t scrape once.
@@chadsinclair6872 225/55’s are stock but on an 18 inch rim. 225/55/18 and 225/60/r17 are exactly the same diameter and width, just different side profiles. The 18 obviously has less rubber more rim from the side and vice versa. But fit wise they are identical
Definitely a better bet if you want to avoid rubbing without a lift. I know a few guys that run the 235/60’s without issue. That was my original pick until I decided to lift it and went with these.
Good video! Nice to see you have minimal rubbing. I have a 19 forester premium with the 17” wheels. Thinking about doing 235/65R17’s on the stock rim. Hopefully it doesn’t rub that much and if it does it seems like an easy fix. No lift kit yet it’s all stock so far. This seems to be the most popular size tire to go with. Either that or maybe downsize to 225/65R17?
The issue you’ll run into is on the stock wheel the offset isn’t wide enough for a 235/65/17 and it may rub the spring perch. These wheels stuck out about an inch further than stock wheels which is what allowed the 235/65/17’s to work. 225/65/17 on stock wheels may be a better option. tiresize.com/comparison/ This is the website I use to do all my comparisons. Also check out the offset section. You can put in the offset of your wheels and tires and see where the tire would sit in the wheel well. Hope this helps!
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS that makes sense. The stock wheel offset is I believe a +48 maybe from what I’ve heard? What offset would I need to make it work. Or maybe add something like a 1” wheel slacker? Might be easier just to go with 225’s at that point lol.
Been searching for a while to see some LP1’s with the Toyo AT tires. How do you feel the road noise is to the stock wheels on the interstate and how does the engine feel with the heavier tires? Thank you for your time.
Sorry been AFK for awhile. Road noise isn’t too bad. I get more noise from my roof rack than my tires. Engine still scoots quick af especially in sport mode. I don’t feel much difference in the pick up of the engine
Comparing the two tires side by side, I think it would be too big. There would be considerable rubbing and you would have to modify alot to get them to function.They definitely would not fit on a stock wheel bc the offset would be too positive. It would rub all over the spring perch and would need to have an aftermarket wheel that moved the tire further out. I had to do quite a bit of trimming for my 235/65/17’s on my 2 inch lift. I think the 245’s would be more more of a headache than they’d be worth. You’d have less articulation as well. But everything can fit technically, just a question of how much do you wanna cut and modify so it can function. Hope this helps!
I fit 225/60r18 A/T tire on my forester and it feels like I’m driving a boat it’s hard to control the car because the steering is so precise, any solution?
Hmmm... mine doesn’t feel like that. Definitely had a different feel Bc it sits higher snd catches more drags but I don’t feel like it’s bad enough to compare like a boat. Unless I have cross winds.
How did you figure the gas mileage? With my larger tires my speedo is off 12% and when you factor that in it's makes a noticeable difference .. I use my GPS to figure miles and then divide the gallons into that.
Ah ok. Well I just used me distanced traveled and divided it by the tank capacity upon refill. But that distance is calculated by the odometer. My tire size only increased by like 4.5% so I’m not sure that it’s 12% off but my estimated mpg in the video is definitely probably off. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Now that I have a lift installed I need to redo my mpg anyways and I’ll be sure to do it this way for a more accurate reading. Thanks!
Yes you’ll still have rubbing to address bc after my two inch I actually had more rubbing than with no lift. So if you’re not afraid of cutting some splash guard off to accommodate, you’ll be good to go!
Could I drop down to a 235/65/r16 to address the rubbing? I like the look of a smaller rim so that would suit me if that would work on a 2011 Forester. Cheers bro
Yessir that should work! That or a 235/60/17 configuration would do as well. Both the 235/65/16 and 235/60/17 are 28 inch tires. If you want to play with different sizes and compare, use this: most helpful tool I’ve ever come across for figuring out tire questions. tiresize.com/comparison/
235/60’s shouldnt be an issue. If you had rubbing at all it would we very minimal. But also depends on what wheels you have. 235 size tires may need more negative offset to get away from the spring perch. Same width as mine but shorter and I had to push my wheels out to give myself plenty of room from the spring perch. About a fingers width
Yes I have lifted it. Did a whole tutorial and lost half the recordings so no tutorial on it but I’m gonna do a review, difference in tire clearance and rubbing and how I fixed it here soon
Thanks man. I will say initially it rubbed more after the lift Bc the fender well is narrower at the bottom but I fixed it easy with trimming and a heat gun. The rear gained a lot more clearance after the alignment. Nice spacing all around
@@applesnotoranges I appreciate it but I got that done like when I made that comment around 6 months ago lol. I got a readylift kit installed with one size bigger tire Falken Wildpeak AT Trails. Had to trim the rubber flaps in front of the front tire to stop minor rubbing and it’s worked out great so far! Thanks
The 14-18 models are the same so should run into the same rubbing issues that I have and fixed myself with some trimming. (Once I lifted it I actually ended up trimming the plastic off and exposing the pinch weld. It doesn’t contact my tire at all)
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS great! I am thinking of doing installing the kit on 2017 but the instruction on the website suggests that I may have to do some cutting to remove the trail arm shield on the rear. Did you have any problems with that? how long did it take you?
@@ricky215 thanks for the sub! And yes I did have to cut off the shield but it is a very thin piece of metal. I used an angle grinder and cut it off. It was definitely an all day project to get the lift fully installed. But alot of that was setting up camera angles and such for the install video (which I accidentally deleted critical videos so scratched the project). So I’d say maybe a 5-6 hour job. I’d definitely allocate a full day to it
You say the weather trim doesn't really affect the car and can be taken out. Didn't the engineers put it in for a reason? I"ve been reading some Outbacks are experiencing flooding from heavy rain, especially when it's parked for any extended period of time in the element. Their foot well is literally soaked. I really wouldn't want water intruding ghrough the wheel well since that's where most of the water wiould be impacting the car while in mobility.
I by no means said it can be taken out. I said it can be trimmed. The weather stripping has a lip that protrudes out and you can trim that lip leaving the weather trim still intact. I definitely wouldn’t recommend removing it. In terms of the plastic in the wheel well it is simply a splash guard to prevent excess water from splashing into the engine bay and holds no weight in preventing water from getting inside your car. If that was the case every lifted tacoma or Offroad rig that has ever been modified and trimmed would have issues with soggy feet. By no means an I not saying those outback’s had some sort of issue but modifying the splash guard or slightly trimming the weather trim on the rear wheel isn’t gonna cause that.
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS Thanks for the reply and apologies if there is any confusion with my statement. I'm about to buy my first Subaru (an Onyx Outback) and some videos I see perplexes me as to how it's possible. Like water crossing where the water level seems to be higher than the engine while not causing it to hydro lock and I've seen some people openly spray to wash their engine bay wihtout covering anything up. I wouldn't mind understanding a little more before attempting to overland or go thorugh the ocassional flooded road here in town which seems to be happening more and more these years. Can you give a quick synopsis why the engine can sustain "some" water when these crossings are happening wihtout hdyro locking? Thanks
No problem at all! That’s why we are all here, right? To learn and teach others! The Onyx edition Outback will be an awesome rig! I’m excited for you. In terms of your question, water is going to get in your engine bay. It’s just part of life and engineers know this and generally waterproof everything that needs to NOT get wet. That’s why you can pressure wash your engine bay out or splash puddles and such and not worry. In terms of an actual water crossing, you will only hydrolock your engine if you submerge the front of your vehicle high enough for the air intake (about level with the top of your boxer engine) under water. If water is sucked up into your air intake it will hydrolock your engine. This is the reason a lot of overlanders will put snorkels in their vehicles. It’s an extension of the air intake, basically moving the filter to a higher/dryer area, thus allowing the vehicle to cross deeper water and not suck water into the engine. By all generalized terms your engine and under the hood parts are “waterproof” but water had a nasty habit of finding its way into stuff if submerged for too long. But not actively moving through a creek or shallow river. I drowned a jeep once in a creek. Flooded my floorboards up to the glovebox. Once I got towed out, and it drained it started right up! Had to change a bunch of fluids Bc water had seeped into things but it still worked Bc the air intake never got submerged. Hope this helps!
Hi, i can read in comments that you use 17x8 with +20mm offset. Is that with any spacers behind rims? I about to go with 225/65r17x7, with no lift and no spacers. - what do you think i would need in offset to get similar yours flush fitment?
I have a 2014 Forester Premium and I want to know if I can go from 225/60/17 to 235/60/17. Do you think that increasing the width of the tire will cause friction when turning the steering wheel?
Thank you for your thorough video. I have been running 235/65r17 on my '18 FXT for 40k miles. Slight rubbing during the first 25K miles - only in the front in reverse at full lock. I have the 1.5" ADF lift w/rear multi link. Lift should help you clear. I run 17x 7.5" +45 offset w/25mm spacer all around. Winter 225/60r18 on stock wheels w/25mm spacer - no rubbing. Good luck with your lift install.
Just got my toyo open country a/t iii tires. 235/65r17. Fitting them on AP7 Wheels 17x8x38.
Sorry... LP7 not AP7
Your Forester looks great man. I am thinking of adding 235/65/17s on my 2023 Forester Wilderness, and considering the Wildpeak AT3s or the Toyo Open Country A/T IIIs Not really interested in lifting it at this time so this was a great video to help me decide. Definitely gonna do 235/65/17s
Great video. Thanks for your time posting and answering all the previous questions, its really helpful. I have a 2014 xt, same as yours, same colour too. I'm about to get a 2" lift kit and bigger tires, falken wildpeak at trail 235/60 r18 with stock rims (I'll need spacers). The stock tires are 225/55 r18. Its a 5.1% diameter increase from 27.7" up to 29.1". The ones that you use are 29" so the ones that I am about to use are just 2mm more than yours. So I know from now that I will need to do some trimming, no big deal with that.
I asked to some local forester owners about my plans and they are concerned about cv stress running larger heavier tires. Have you heard anyone having gearbox, cvt or diferencial problems running larger tires? I tow a own-made teardrop trailer too. Regards from Chile.
Thank you for the kind words! Any size change in tires is gonna cause more wear and tear on your cv and other components. And the larger you go it will put more strain on those components but doesn’t mean that it will cause a significant failure.
Sorry for the end of the video. I tried to do a quick patch replacement for a copywrite claim issue and it deleted my words and seems out of place. I apologize!
I beat mine with a hammer and flattened the pinch card then used spray paint on it so the metal won't rust out. No rubbing at full turn
Awesome!
I have a premium 2019 premium. Planning to get lp1 wheels. Which you recommended for stock suspension. 225/65/17 or 235/60/17?
Same question man! I really love the handling on road and a little bit afraid to mess it up with a lift.
Do these offroad tires only start actually looking aggressive with 245 width and more? The at3w for example looks like a totally different tire.
hi your set up looks awesome on the foz and by the way I am looking at the same setup for my car also which is se as your And I will going with 235/65/17 falken wildpeak on a 17x8 +45 offset will be in a straight 2 inch spacer lifted will this going to be an issue for this setup will it be rubbing the strut Perch ( my most concerned) please help me out here with you experience thanks
My ears exploded 30 seconds in.
It’s because you shaved your beard... gave you sissy eardrums. Lol I’ll have the audio issue fixed next video.
What is your wheels offset .?
Thanks, useful info!
Thank you for sharing this information I tried putting these tires on my 2014 Subaru Forrester Limited and they fit perfectly it was absolutely no rubbing even when turning the front wheel lock to lock there was still no rubbing I had no rubbing in the back tires either so if you’re considering buying a pair of these tires I’m here to let you know that they do fit
Hey David! So I also have a 14' forester and was wondering I bought a set of 235/75/r15s I'm going to have to buy a lift correct I'm a noob to modify vehicles
@@itsyaboimat2393did you end up needed a lift?
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is it vertical clearance between the tire and the spring perch you're referring to or horizontal? I guess my questoin is would it clear if you had wheels with the stock offset?
okay cool. I just got the 17x8 et38 LP7. Was looking at tires for the wheel. I have a 2017 forester 2.0 XT
Nice! I originally was gonna go with those but wanted the wider stance with some rubber showing and I’m happy I did
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS Agreed. It looks really nice on yours. Did you get your lift yet?
Just ordered my open country at 3s for my outback wilderness
Solid tires man. I’ve Had them for 15k now and they are still solid and great on the trail. Took them up a 20 miles jeep trail last weekend and they crushed it
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS I ran the BFG KO2s on my crosstrek for 20k and loved them but trying something new with my new wilderness but the geolander tires aren't aggressive enough for my liking.
@@danieljackson-woods6225 I think you’ll find the Toyota’s to your liking. Way lighter than the BK02’s but look aggressive and act aggressive. But surprisingly quiet and smooth on the road
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS that works planning a trip to an ohv area next week after I get them installed to test them out
Lemme know how you like them!
Great Video men.
Can I use 235 60 R18 on Forester 2.5 2017?? Issues or not? thanks hero!!
Thank you! Those are the exact same size as the 235/65/17’s just different configuration so you’ll rub in all the same places mine does with my set up (+20 offset)
Did you get the wheels directly from LP website? Seems they don’t offer any +20 5x100 wheels anymore.
I actually got them through throtl.com which honestly I wouldn’t recommend. Nothing on throtls part but it was a special order item bc throtl didn’t have it in stock and it took 3 months to get them delivered. I’d recommend from LP directly OR a website that has them in stock
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS ok thanks for info! Love the channel too keep it up
@@mattbustamante6461 thanks man!
I have a 19 wrx and am going to be running stock premium 18’s. Am picking up the adf 1” lift, what size tire would you recommend I can get away with without rubbing issues?
I wonder if there will be the same rubbing issue with the 2023 Forester wilderness?
I would like to know this as well as will it fit in the spare compartment.
This is great information. This is exactly exactly i need to find for the 3rd gen (sh) Forester.
I wish you had an older car. 😉
Hahaha thanks man! Have you ever checked out @softroadingthewest ? He had an SH and did a ton of videos before it that are really great! He wrecked it and has a frontier now but his older videos are still great for reference for SH owners
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS Thank you for the suggestion. I am looking him up now.
Is your SJ a 2.0 XT? Planning install that tires w/ a stock Crosstek Mags will they rub on the front shocks?
Yes it’s a 2.0 XT. I dunno if it would rub or not. My wider offset prevented them from touching the spring perch. It will definitely be closer in stock wheels. You could always get spacers to fix that
I just replaced the tires on my forester to the tire size you featured. the other day. And what i did is i installed 1/4 wheel spacer on the front wheels and the result didn't rub the plastic on both full turns. Thanks for the tip mate.
Will they fit in the spare tire space?
Great video! came across it while researching for wheel and tire size options for my '19 Forester Sport. I'm thinking of getting a lift too. Just wondering if your forester has already been lifted on this video and if not, did the rubbing go away or decrease after the lift? Thanks!
As of that video no that was all at stock height. Since then I have lifted it. I am extremely happy with the new clearance and will be doing a video soon on the improvements and difference in clearance.
With the SJ it actually caused more rubbing and ended up having to trim away the plastic I discussed in this video in front of the pinch weld as well as reshape some of the splash guard with a heat gun. The reason is on the SJ the fender well actually gets narrower towards the bottom so when it got lifted it got closer to the wider portions of the tire. But now that it is trimmed and lifted I could not be happier.
I am unaware if the new gens fender Wells do the same as the SJ’s so I cannot answer your question with confidence if it would make it rub more or less. But I would safely say expect to do some sort of remolding or trimming If you go with this set up.
But it’s worth it 🤙🏼
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS Wow! Thanks for that very detailed response.
Definitely going with the same Toyo tires that you have and I'll also be getting a 2" lift kit. I hope it all fits well and don't have to trim too much of the plastics at the wheel wells.
Looking forward to your next uploads.
I Got The Same Sizes In My (2008) "Jeep Compass" And They Are Look Amazing More Highest👉🚗🙂👌
Just wondering why your mileage is so low. My 2020 forester with off road tires but stock rims gets 32 mph on the highway and 27 plus around town
do you have any rubbings on the sides due to width?
my forester came with 225 55 r18 and i want to put 235 55 r18... i went to tire calculator websites and it says the 235 65 r17 has 29" diameter and 9.3" width while original is 28.5" diameter and 8.9"width.. my forester came with 18s and i checked that overall is smaller in diameter and width than the 225 65 r17 setup most foresters comes with, it seems that even if i go 235 55 r18, the diameter is going to be smaller than the 225 65 r17 stock setup, 28.5 vs 28.2 so i shouldn't be running into the same problem you have in this video, my only concern is going from 8.9 to 9.3 width..
No I don’t have any rubbing from the 9.3 tire but I also have wheels with increased backspace and offset, so that changes things a little bit. I am honestly unsure if 235’s on a stock rim would rub or not. I know it would be closer to the spring perch than mine currently and I have about .75-1.0 inch of clearance between the perch and tire currently
You could always try it and if it rubbed, buy spacers
Awesome video, I was curious if you used plastidip for the fog light bezels? Looks great
No I actually used professional grade rustoleum satin black spray paint
And thanks!
Great Subaru off-road info. Thanks! BTW, you have the face / look to do a Nayib Bukele (El Salavador Pres) parody. Just sayin! haha
Very helpful video. I have 2018 2.5i on stock suspension and wheels and was debating wether going with 235/65 or 235/60…this led me to 235/60 as you mentioned a lift won’t help w rubbing.
Glad I could help! Yea rubbing actually got worse with the lift, due to the geometry of the wheel well narrowing at the bottom. I was surprised. BUT after trimming it fits great and I haven’t looked back.
The 12 inches of clearance it has now with the lift has served me well on the trail and I am super happy and impressed
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS Thanks for the replies! 12 inches of clearance is impressive.
@@NK-vw4ms bro I’m sorry I must of been out of my mind. Of course it’s impressive Bc it’s wrong lol!!! I have 10.7 inches of clearance but it’s a significant amount. Just did a jeep trail last weekend. 20 miles and didn’t scrape once.
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS haha all good. Love hearing jeep trails worked by Subies
Just to clarify did your 235/60 rub? 17” or 18”
Great video!!! I have a 16' 2.5 premium completely stock, would a 225/60/r17 fit without rubbing issues?
Yessir! That’s actually the equivalent of the stock tire that came on my forester
Oh heck yeah, thanks! For some reason I thought 225/55s were stock so this is great.
@@chadsinclair6872 225/55’s are stock but on an 18 inch rim. 225/55/18 and 225/60/r17 are exactly the same diameter and width, just different side profiles. The 18 obviously has less rubber more rim from the side and vice versa. But fit wise they are identical
Great vid. Looks like I'll be going with 225 65 17 or 235 60 17s on mine. Thanks!
Definitely a better bet if you want to avoid rubbing without a lift. I know a few guys that run the 235/60’s without issue. That was my original pick until I decided to lift it and went with these.
Good video! Nice to see you have minimal rubbing. I have a 19 forester premium with the 17” wheels. Thinking about doing 235/65R17’s on the stock rim. Hopefully it doesn’t rub that much and if it does it seems like an easy fix. No lift kit yet it’s all stock so far. This seems to be the most popular size tire to go with. Either that or maybe downsize to 225/65R17?
The issue you’ll run into is on the stock wheel the offset isn’t wide enough for a 235/65/17 and it may rub the spring perch. These wheels stuck out about an inch further than stock wheels which is what allowed the 235/65/17’s to work. 225/65/17 on stock wheels may be a better option.
tiresize.com/comparison/
This is the website I use to do all my comparisons. Also check out the offset section. You can put in the offset of your wheels and tires and see where the tire would sit in the wheel well. Hope this helps!
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS that makes sense. The stock wheel offset is I believe a +48 maybe from what I’ve heard? What offset would I need to make it work. Or maybe add something like a 1” wheel slacker? Might be easier just to go with 225’s at that point lol.
Been searching for a while to see some LP1’s with the Toyo AT tires. How do you feel the road noise is to the stock wheels on the interstate and how does the engine feel with the heavier tires? Thank you for your time.
Sorry been AFK for awhile. Road noise isn’t too bad. I get more noise from my roof rack than my tires. Engine still scoots quick af especially in sport mode. I don’t feel much difference in the pick up of the engine
Hi, one year after fitting your Foz with that 235/65R17, have you already install a lift kit ?
stock wheels? how bad is the rubbing, can you load the car with 5 people?
Do you think a 245 65 r17 will fit with a 1" front and 1 3/8" rear lift?
Or would those fit with a stock Subaru?
Comparing the two tires side by side, I think it would be too big. There would be considerable rubbing and you would have to modify alot to get them to function.They definitely would not fit on a stock wheel bc the offset would be too positive. It would rub all over the spring perch and would need to have an aftermarket wheel that moved the tire further out.
I had to do quite a bit of trimming for my 235/65/17’s on my 2 inch lift.
I think the 245’s would be more more of a headache than they’d be worth. You’d have less articulation as well.
But everything can fit technically, just a question of how much do you wanna cut and modify so it can function. Hope this helps!
What size is good for my 2009 Subaru Forester like you tires and rims
What is causing the rub? The 235 or the 65?
What wheels are you running?
Looks like the LP1’s
What you recommend lp1 wheels on my 19 forester. The +20 offset or +35 offset?
I fit 225/60r18 A/T tire on my forester and it feels like I’m driving a boat it’s hard to control the car because the steering is so precise, any solution?
Hmmm... mine doesn’t feel like that. Definitely had a different feel Bc it sits higher snd catches more drags but I don’t feel like it’s bad enough to compare like a boat. Unless I have cross winds.
Hello are those 9 inch or 8.5 rims
How did you figure the gas mileage? With my larger tires my speedo is off 12% and when you factor that in it's makes a noticeable difference .. I use my GPS to figure miles and then divide the gallons into that.
What size tires are you running?
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS 285/75 16” s on Steelies .. on a 2001 Ford Explorer 2Dr
Ah ok. Well I just used me distanced traveled and divided it by the tank capacity upon refill. But that distance is calculated by the odometer. My tire size only increased by like 4.5% so I’m not sure that it’s 12% off but my estimated mpg in the video is definitely probably off. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Now that I have a lift installed I need to redo my mpg anyways and I’ll be sure to do it this way for a more accurate reading. Thanks!
What was your mpg before the larger tires?
Approximately 23-24mpg so lost around 2 mpg with the larger tires and higher profile. Honestly i contribute some of it to the roof basket drag
Would a 1" work?
Yes you’ll still have rubbing to address bc after my two inch I actually had more rubbing than with no lift. So if you’re not afraid of cutting some splash guard off to accommodate, you’ll be good to go!
Would 225-65-17 fit an sk forester?
Yes it would
Could I drop down to a 235/65/r16 to address the rubbing? I like the look of a smaller rim so that would suit me if that would work on a 2011 Forester. Cheers bro
Yessir that should work! That or a 235/60/17 configuration would do as well. Both the 235/65/16 and 235/60/17 are 28 inch tires.
If you want to play with different sizes and compare, use this: most helpful tool I’ve ever come across for figuring out tire questions.
tiresize.com/comparison/
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS too good brother! Cheers for the help.
@@Scottyhutch1 no problem brother! Happy trails!
Great vid! What offset are those wheels?
Thank you! The offset is +20
I have 15 forester XT with 2" lifted kit and I'm planning to delete the lifted kit. Can I run 235 60 r17? Will it rub? 🤔
235/60’s shouldnt be an issue. If you had rubbing at all it would we very minimal. But also depends on what wheels you have. 235 size tires may need more negative offset to get away from the spring perch. Same width as mine but shorter and I had to push my wheels out to give myself plenty of room from the spring perch. About a fingers width
Great video and thanks for the info.
Can you get these tires for stock rims
Yes you can. Just go down in size
Have you lifted yet? I'm in the exact same situation as you
Yes I have lifted it. Did a whole tutorial and lost half the recordings so no tutorial on it but I’m gonna do a review, difference in tire clearance and rubbing and how I fixed it here soon
Sorry for your loss but that sounds great, I'll be looking forward to it!
Thanks man. I will say initially it rubbed more after the lift Bc the fender well is narrower at the bottom but I fixed it easy with trimming and a heat gun. The rear gained a lot more clearance after the alignment. Nice spacing all around
Looking to get this size for my XV Crosstrek, would this be fine with a 1.5” lift?
Lemme do some research and get back to you!
@@applesnotoranges I appreciate it but I got that done like when I made that comment around 6 months ago lol. I got a readylift kit installed with one size bigger tire Falken Wildpeak AT Trails. Had to trim the rubber flaps in front of the front tire to stop minor rubbing and it’s worked out great so far! Thanks
Are you on a lift spacer?
Yessir I have a 2 inch spacer Lift from Rough Country
Man, this is a really nice video! Keep going. By the way you've got 2.0l engine or 2.5??
Thank you! I have the 2.0 turbo
What’s your wheels offset ?
Would this tire setup work on a 14 forester?
The 14-18 models are the same so should run into the same rubbing issues that I have and fixed myself with some trimming. (Once I lifted it I actually ended up trimming the plastic off and exposing the pinch weld. It doesn’t contact my tire at all)
What size wheel did you use?
17x8 with +20mm offset
I own a 2020 Outback. Im running 235/65/17 no rubbing since 2inch lift. If I upgrade to 245 will there be rubbs?
Did it rub without the lift?
Really, no lift kit no rubbing ?.?
Why are you 40 with a backwards hat. What's it suppose to mean?
Tryna stay hip and cool with the young guns out here. Gotta stay relevant. No regerts, nam sayin?
Did you install the lift kit yourself or did you have a shop do it?
I did it myself!
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS great! I am thinking of doing installing the kit on 2017 but the instruction on the website suggests that I may have to do some cutting to remove the trail arm shield on the rear. Did you have any problems with that? how long did it take you?
@@ricky215 thanks for the sub! And yes I did have to cut off the shield but it is a very thin piece of metal. I used an angle grinder and cut it off. It was definitely an all day project to get the lift fully installed. But alot of that was setting up camera angles and such for the install video (which I accidentally deleted critical videos so scratched the project).
So I’d say maybe a 5-6 hour job. I’d definitely allocate a full day to it
You say the weather trim doesn't really affect the car and can be taken out. Didn't the engineers put it in for a reason? I"ve been reading some Outbacks are experiencing flooding from heavy rain, especially when it's parked for any extended period of time in the element. Their foot well is literally soaked. I really wouldn't want water intruding ghrough the wheel well since that's where most of the water wiould be impacting the car while in mobility.
I by no means said it can be taken out. I said it can be trimmed. The weather stripping has a lip that protrudes out and you can trim that lip leaving the weather trim still intact. I definitely wouldn’t recommend removing it.
In terms of the plastic in the wheel well it is simply a splash guard to prevent excess water from splashing into the engine bay and holds no weight in preventing water from getting inside your car. If that was the case every lifted tacoma or Offroad rig that has ever been modified and trimmed would have issues with soggy feet.
By no means an I not saying those outback’s had some sort of issue but modifying the splash guard or slightly trimming the weather trim on the rear wheel isn’t gonna cause that.
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS Thanks for the reply and apologies if there is any confusion with my statement. I'm about to buy my first Subaru (an Onyx Outback) and some videos I see perplexes me as to how it's possible. Like water crossing where the water level seems to be higher than the engine while not causing it to hydro lock and I've seen some people openly spray to wash their engine bay wihtout covering anything up.
I wouldn't mind understanding a little more before attempting to overland or go thorugh the ocassional flooded road here in town which seems to be happening more and more these years.
Can you give a quick synopsis why the engine can sustain "some" water when these crossings are happening wihtout hdyro locking?
Thanks
No problem at all! That’s why we are all here, right? To learn and teach others! The Onyx edition Outback will be an awesome rig! I’m excited for you.
In terms of your question, water is going to get in your engine bay. It’s just part of life and engineers know this and generally waterproof everything that needs to NOT get wet. That’s why you can pressure wash your engine bay out or splash puddles and such and not worry.
In terms of an actual water crossing, you will only hydrolock your engine if you submerge the front of your vehicle high enough for the air intake (about level with the top of your boxer engine) under water. If water is sucked up into your air intake it will hydrolock your engine. This is the reason a lot of overlanders will put snorkels in their vehicles. It’s an extension of the air intake, basically moving the filter to a higher/dryer area, thus allowing the vehicle to cross deeper water and not suck water into the engine.
By all generalized terms your engine and under the hood parts are “waterproof” but water had a nasty habit of finding its way into stuff if submerged for too long. But not actively moving through a creek or shallow river.
I drowned a jeep once in a creek. Flooded my floorboards up to the glovebox. Once I got towed out, and it drained it started right up! Had to change a bunch of fluids Bc water had seeped into things but it still worked Bc the air intake never got submerged.
Hope this helps!
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Hi, i can read in comments that you use 17x8 with +20mm offset. Is that with any spacers behind rims?
I about to go with 225/65r17x7, with no lift and no spacers. - what do you think i would need in offset to get similar yours flush fitment?
Your rims is about 40mm further out from stock (ET55) - but it seems to work fine. Your only issues is the tire diameter. Right?
Anyone run this size on an SH forester
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I have a 2014 Forester Premium and I want to know if I can go from 225/60/17 to 235/60/17. Do you think that increasing the width of the tire will cause friction when turning the steering wheel?
What rims are you using please? LP Adventure with +15 offset?