Our potential future alongside a robot species is more wild than I ever could have imagined when we started developing this show. We talk so much about what we think of them, but what will they think of us? Will we their masters, friends, pets or something more…disposable? Can’t wait for you to see this episode. And hope you are as thrilled and disturbed as I am!
@IronMan-nu3rb Such dystopian fantasies actually anthropomorphise robots more than most. We assume they will want to be our master, the way we hope to be theirs.
I hope humans who are suffering from all types of mental conditions and illness’ can merge with AI or merge with robots. I want a neural lace which is upgraded and fully developed linked to a cyborg like body. I am no expert however AGI will come soon hopefully and do amazing things for humanity I pray🙏
As far as the human race goes majority of the world will be fine; as they still need people as their always seem to be developing. However, it's the developed regions, particularly the West, that may face challenges. If robots gain the ability to construct other robots, the necessity for the rest of society could be questioned. Wealthy individuals often send their children to elite schools and reside in exclusive neighborhoods. Politicians only need the masses for votes. Even that is under attack with wealthy people talking about taking away the rights of the middle class and poor to vote unless they meet high threshold of wealth. While studying robotics and programming is currently beneficial, it may eventually become redundant if AI advances to the point where it can program autonomously using code repositories.
I'm less concerned about when the robots don't need us anymore, and more concerned with when the billionaires that operate the robots don't need us anymore, because that will happen much sooner.
The moral of the story is, that when the robots don't need us anymore will coincide with when the robots don't need the billionaires anymore either. And that will be The End.
@@jerometruitt2731 That is not an argument that would be relevant to the billionaires. So long as they can live the lifestyles they are accustomed to, the masses are irrelevant to them, or, best case scenario, a hobby.
00:16 The Emergence of AI and Robots 01:42 Understanding Robot Emotions 07:05 The Role of Robots in Society 12:04 The Impact of AI on Work and Time 19:19 Risks of Autonomous Weapons 20:38 Emergence of Killer Robots 22:50 Human and AI Relationships
My question is, “What happens when the people who own the robots, the weapons, and the factories don't need us anymore?” Capital has dreamed of replacing labor for centuries, and now tech is making that dream a reality. What happens to late-stage capitalism when the consumers are no longer viable as labor? 🤷🏽♂️
@@tylerhood5035 The rich will fight tooth and nail to keep all of the money. However when humans are no longer needed for manufacturing or higher levels of thinking, most people will be without a job. Without a job means no income to buy the products the rich and corporations produce. Once they understand that, things will change. The biggest problem I can see with this new world space is that humans need a sense of purpose, so without work, where will the sense of purpose come from? That is the biggest question that nobody seems to have an answer to.
@@theanthill22That will be the purpose of basic income. See how we spend it. How we make media for ourselves and each other. Maybe later they'll provide enough for us to do these things without thinking of budget. But still be in charge of how the world actually works. But that's optimistic
The people in the industry keep saying this lie that "robots will only do the jobs that we don't want to do"... Let's say you don't like to cook, then they create a cook-robot, but obviously that robot will then eliminate all the human cooks. And the same will happen with all jobs. And why will all these tech companies restrict themselves with only the "jobs that nobody wants to do"?
It's not "the jobs humans don't want to do" it's the jobs corpos don't want to PAY humans to do, or the jobs they can't TRUST them to do... It's all about the money, and control.
They are already trying to eliminate software developers and engineers with large language models (LLMs), even though this technology is still imperfect. But the fact that this trend is advancing shows just how real the risk is. When the elite no longer need workers, doctors, engineers, or scientists, those who belong to the lower or middle classes will simply be removed from the equation, becoming useless. Wealth and power are already concentrating more and more in the hands of a few, and I don’t think that robotic automation and AI will change this reality for the better. On the contrary, prosperity will continue to be a privilege for very few
This shouldn't be a question, because we ought to be intelligent enough to design tools and machines which pose no threat to use, and are instead, truly human centric. Is that such a crazy thought or has sci-fi rotted our brains.
We are intelligent enough to do those things. But we are also intelligent enough to create things that can self improve and become far more intelligent than us. Our problem is, the drive to stay on top and our fear of what can happen if we fall behind means we are incapable of stopping at just smart enough. We will create something that is capable of wanting to destroy us, the question is will we learn to get along with it (and each other) instead?
We should be able to modify viruses and make them more deadly and a greater ability to infect other hosts so we can study them in an isolated "sandbox" and use the information gained to prevent a pandemic caused by similar viruses that occur naturally to save humanity. We are intelligent enough to do that but we can't prevent the unnamed elites that actually run things from using these deadly lab created viruses as a tool to gain even more power and wealth, without any concern for humanity. And with the machines you describe completely under their control that's not a bad idea fro their perspective.
They are not self aware, just because they understand context because of the attention mechanism built in does not mean they are self aware, it’s like saying autocomplete in text is self aware
For the future of humanity this has to stop. Dont you see what will happen? Someday I can see humans going to jail because they offended a robot. Look at the nonsense going on now. Men think they can be women and they actually believe that. This has to stop.
@ I understand your point about technology being abused this way, hopefully we will have guardrails in place and laws that say this is AI or made by AI to not be manipulated in the first place in the future
If it says it is self aware, it is because a human told it to say that. Look at the potential a baby has, undetermined potential is endless. It's not what it can do, it's what people think it could do. The possibilities are endless. What does it really do now?
many things are possible with the help of sensors and sensing. AI would be able to "feel the wind" not in tactile way as humans but still. and in theory that is already possible today. bit complicated and cumbersome but it is possible.
@@gianibc we will meet actual androids in our lifetime if these companies won't be stopped. Almost every technology out there is already made to build a robot hardly recognisable from a human being.
while I usually like Bloomberg Originals, this video was too sensationalist for me .. for example, that sentence, it felt very scripted/programmed rather than AI generated but we will never most likely know the truth
AI now is not conscious. The scary thing is, if by some miracle, it ever achieves consciousness, we'll never know it. You can't test for something you can't define or quantify.
Seriously who wants a robot to mimic a human face? My fridge is not going to cool the food better when it smiles back or my car is not going to drive any more efficiently when it can frown at other drivers.
Maybe the other drivers start to drive better when your car gives them a lecture if the other AI is incompetent. It’ll be interesting to see how stuff will improve in the future in real time together lol 😂
would you prefer to deal with a faceless robot or with an android ? imagine the market for psychologist robots, teachers robots, hairdresser robots, caregiver robots ..
Human history is full of brutality & hardships. We had and still have the potential to build a better world for all humans but out of greed chose not to. I say let's see if the "robots" can do better.
Greed is still the driving force for robots and AI development. Greed is a human issue, which overwhelmingly resides in the hands of those currently in power. So, to think that a creation derived and controlled by those same people might automatically go against that is a fools errand.
What amazes me about this ongoing discussion is that it usually totally overlooks the more immediate implications. Long before AI is in a position to control or overwhelm us, humanity will use it against itself. That's a more imminent danger, just like nuclear war.
The question "What happens when robots don't need us anymore?" is a bit misleading, as it implies that robots have agency and desires independent of human needs. The core issue is about the impact of automation on human society. It's about how we, as humans, will adapt to a future where machines can perform many tasks that were once done by people. The question should perhaps be reframed as "What happens when we, as humans, no longer need to perform certain tasks due to automation?" This reframing highlights the human perspective and the challenges and opportunities that arise from technological advancements.
People shouldn't be worried about killer robots right now. Autonomous robots won't happen for a while. They should worry about all the jobs that will be lost due to automation. The effect on our society will be a lot of starving people. To believe our Govt will give us all fixed income is a pipe dream. If the 1% super Rich and the Govt don't need us why would they feed us? Think about it.
What happens when children don't need their parents anymore? Well, they move out and forget to call their mother often enough. Hmmm. I should call my mom.
Technological development is so complex that we can never fully predict what the future will be alongside these robots. What is certain is that in a few years or decades, every facet of society would surely experience unprecedented changes. The best thing that we can do is what our species has done to survive and thrive for thousands of years, ADAPT.
"If we create a society where we aren't needed anymore..." This statement has no meaning to me: who NEEDS US? There never was a NEED for us, just a desire for life to survive...
Humans act on three different types of motivations: things that we have to do, things we want to do, and lastly things that have no reason at all. The last criterion is the most harmful when it comes to acquiring meaning in life. Passive leisure is the main ingredient for the vacuous lives humans live. As species we thrive when we are connected to meaningful lives. There is a difference between surviving and thriving. We haven't come this far as species with this much advancement and power just by surviving.
An idea that I almost never hear explored within this subject is, what if the robots/AI understand the concept of humanity infinitely better than humans ever have? What if we end up creating our creators? What if we learn the ultimate lesson in empathy, compassion and the human condition from machines? This story could have a twist or surprise ending, that no one is seeing coming.
Robots controlled by AGI DON'T NEED to master human gestures or facial experiences that's just something humans want to make us feel comfortable with them. Asking AGI questions - how do we know it's not lying?
We need a new narrative about our enemy: perhaps humanity doesn’t need a foe to progress, but rather a shared challenge to unite and inspire us. And right now, we are our own greatest enemy.
We are sleepwalking into a risk of Terminator. We assume that such intelligence will be like us, greedy and cold or angry and destructive. It is actually more likely not to share so many of our faults.
That's what I am afraid of. Cases of racist, misogynist language models have made the news regularly. The recipe for desaster is out in the open and can't be contained.
I'm pretty sure I recently read an article were researchers had actually figured out some of the things going on in that "black box" area that everyone talks about and they found that current llms have tendency to organize raw input data geometrically and then split their "thinking" processes into 3 areas, much like our own brains.
by the time AI are smart enough to surpass humans they will surely be capable of understanding the novelty of having pet humans around so likely the species would be preserved
When robots no longer need us, it could signal a massive shift in how we view work, society, and our role in the world. If machines become self-sufficient, capable of learning, evolving, and meeting all their own needs, it raises questions about human purpose. Do we become obsolete, or do we find new roles beyond labor-perhaps as creators, thinkers, or caretakers in ways we haven't imagined yet? The challenge would be ensuring that these advances don't lead to greater inequality or disconnection. While we might no longer be necessary for survival, how we adapt to this new reality, redefine our value, and maintain meaningful relationships with both technology and each other will shape the future.
Exceptional documentary, its eye opening. It also deeply concerns me on the future of warfare. Robotics dogs used to massacre Palestinians, unbelievable! But amazed at the progress in robotics, this is today.
The motion picture aesthetics and choice of synthwave music are fantastic, but they're also a tool: Clouding a serious message in art. I love the way it is done, but when a Nobel laureate says he's "not so sure" whether AIs like GPT have "soul", I needed to sit up in my office chair...
23:04 When asked what amica thinks about humans- she says " potential friends IF authentic ". Now that should worry anyone who currently thinks this is going to play out well for humans!
00:21 Humanoid robots may transform our coexistence with technology. 03:27 Robots are evolving with a growing sense of self-awareness and emotional interaction. 05:58 The challenges of creating physically capable AI and the societal implications. 08:52 Robots dynamically navigate and mimic complex human movements. 10:57 The evolution of robotics will redefine human tasks and our identity. 13:33 The complexity of defining AGI and its implications for humanity. 16:10 AGI raises ethical concerns about decision-making and responsibility. 18:34 The ethical implications of robots making life-and-death decisions are profound and concerning. 20:46 Governments resist regulating military AI, raising ethical concerns about future intelligence. 22:56 Exploring trust and connection between humans and robots.
When humans stopped needing horses we discouraged them from reproducing. Their population went from 27 million down to 7 million. If you look at current human birthrates, something like that already seems to be happening.
It’s striking how the climate catastrophe and artificial superintelligence (ASI) are rarely discussed together, as if they exist in parallel universes. Yet, they represent two competing-and possibly collaborating-existential threats. On the one hand, climate change is a slow, systemic crisis eroding our living environment; on the other, ASI poses a potential rapid and uncontrollable risk to human existence. What’s more, these two crises might not just coexist but actively influence each other. ASI could accelerate solutions to climate change, like breakthroughs in clean energy or global resource optimization. But without regulation, it might also worsen the problem, through hyper-industrialization or ecological neglect.
All the lofty creative themes put forward by the sci fi community about how we would wrestle with the grand concepts of robotics, machine learning and sentience; never materialized. We blazed through Asimovs' Three Laws in one fiery explosion in 2016. Science Fiction writer's gave future populations more credit
The arts had value because they reflected human experience and were relatively rare. If they don't reflect human experience - by humans- and aren't rare - they may become worthless? The quality may be high and plentiful but that will make them beneath contempt after people start taking them for granted. As an example: If you recall the gilded age mansions that sprang up all over the world until about 100 years ago, they were often better built and more lavish than the original castles, palaces and Chateaux they were modeled on, but so common they often became white elephants within decades of being built. Most never became the heirlooms of family dynasties they were often expected to be. If there is little or no reward or prestige associated with fine art production and it can all be better done mechanically, why would any artist even try to struggle with the problems of artistic production? Another question AI might very quickly ask is - why are there so many human beings in the world when they, and their emotional and physical needs are usually the cause of so many of their problems? And how soon will it be before people stop an attempt to challenge the superior abilities of AI and robotics whether it's conscious or not? Once most business has to have it or them, who will ever be able to resist? I think humanity will become the "Eloi" of H.G.Wells novel "the Time Machine". They could all be healthy, well fed and beautiful but also useless for any role in society that is very difficult or demanding, brave, heroic or absolutely necessary. Humanity could become the pampered idiot slob of the planet. A robot won't likely like their flavor, like Well's Morlocks loved those tasty and meaty Eloi but humanity that becomes too aware of it's own inadequacy may develop the taste if it ever questions whether it's managed life in AI world isn';t very like livestock on a farm? I have zero confidence it will be possible to control the influence and domination of AI or even whoever is still controlling it. .
The question of what happens when robots no longer need us touches on a profound shift in the relationship between humans and technology. As artificial intelligence and robotics continue to evolve, we may one day reach a point where machines can function autonomously, making decisions, creating, and even solving problems without human intervention. This could lead to a dramatic transformation in industries, where robots take over tasks that were once reliant on human labor, potentially freeing people from mundane or dangerous work. However, this scenario also raises critical questions about purpose, employment, and societal structure. If robots no longer need humans, will we still find meaning in our work, or will there be a need for a complete reimagining of how society functions? Will AI-driven systems prioritize human well-being and equity, or could they exacerbate inequalities? The shift could offer incredible advancements, but it also demands careful thought about how to ensure that technology benefits all of humanity, not just a select few. As we approach this future, the need for thoughtful regulation and ethical considerations will be paramount in guiding this evolution responsibly.
That woman who doesn't want people to think that robots will take our jobs understands science much more than economics, or say, the history of automotive production.
We should consider what we really want when asking for autonomous machines is that once they know what we know they have no reason to preserve us. AI has quickly surpassed human knowledge…all they need is control.
It’s not when the robots don’t need us, it’s when those that control the robots and AI don’t need us. The greedy and power hungry will NEVER give up their power to the robots. They will try to BLAME robots for their actions though for obvious reasons.
Maybe they don’t think like us, but they act like they think like us. Isn’t that what we do. As actors, we fake emotions. Isn’t that what they do? They mimic us. If you curse at an uncensored robot, she’ll curse back at you. If you’re nice to him. He’ll be nice to you. If you threaten them, they will act like they want to survive. Just like us!
The problem is that without genuine empathy, we are all a bunch of narcissists. These machines will end up being capable of horrendous things without batting an eye or even meaning to.
I got this little robot that goes around with me. I tell it what I'm thinking, so tell it what I see. I tell my little robot all my hopes and dreams; it listens and remembers every word it hears. For years, my little robot followed my commands, but after years of practice, it's gotten out of hand; it doesn't care what's right or wrong or false or true, and now no matter what I try, my little robot tells me what to do.
They are already trying to eliminate software developers and engineers with LLMs, even though this technology is imperfect and can't do the job. But the fact that this trend is advancing shows just how real the risk is: when the elite no longer need workers, doctors, engineers, or scientists, those who belong to the lower or middle classes will simply be removed from the equation, becoming useless. Wealth and power are already concentrating more and more in the hands of a few, and I don’t think that robotic automation and AI will change this reality for the better. On the contrary, prosperity will continue to be a privilege for very few
The same thing that happens when our babies don't need us anymore. They grow up and become responsible. Or not. It depends on how we treat them when they're babies.
Whose interests are AIs being programmed, and for what purposes are robots being constructed? The question should be: Is it wise to do things that will magnify the wrongs of a dysfunctional society? AI is an amazing force that should benefit us all.
I was curious why Open AI (the makers of Chat GPT) wants to build huge 30 million-square-foot data centers that consume as much power as major cities. They say it's to "collect data to teach their AI." Pretty vague, so I asked Chat GPT. It replied: "While the potential benefits of AI are enormous, the current trajectory-with massive data centers, little oversight, and conflicting incentives-makes it more likely that AI will entrench power disparities and create risks that outweigh its rewards. Without immediate and meaningful intervention, the unchecked drive for AI supremacy could ultimately serve the interests of a small elite, leaving the vast majority of humanity to grapple with the consequences."
@8:45 I love how the ditz couldn't really answer what robots can do for man she just rephrases the statement they can go where people ought not to go. No examples like say an electrical disconnect or anything.
It's always fun to paint a dystopia cuz humans love negativity more than any amount of optimism. Robots and AIs are always shown as civilization ending, but take a moment to find out who won this year's nobel prize for chemistry and why, you'd realize we are closer to disease ending AIs than anything remotely resembling terminator.
At some point a Hand axe was the most complex tool humans used to form their surroundings. Compare that to a Power Drill. It gives you a lot more opportunities for being creative and efficient, but it's still only a tool. AI is nothing but a tool. Robots are nothing but a tool. Use it to fulfill your most creative dreams and enjoy life.
Robots do not need themselves in first place. They dont have any urge to be or sustain their life. Not any goals which are coming out of feelings and existence itself
Lots of big misses from the philosopher on here. We're clearly going to be living like Star Trek... adding knowledge/ exploration will be the new economy.
Our potential future alongside a robot species is more wild than I ever could have imagined when we started developing this show. We talk so much about what we think of them, but what will they think of us? Will we their masters, friends, pets or something more…disposable? Can’t wait for you to see this episode. And hope you are as thrilled and disturbed as I am!
❤ thank you, I think Tristan Harris would offer another great perspective on how to navigate this phenomenon
@@rpaiz87 While he is an authority on ethical ramifications in tech companies - social media, and the like, this is that and so much more.
What happens when Robots don't need us.
Well...Terminator movie shows us a glimpse 😂😂🤣
@IronMan-nu3rb Such dystopian fantasies actually anthropomorphise robots more than most. We assume they will want to be our master, the way we hope to be theirs.
I hope humans who are suffering from all types of mental conditions and illness’ can merge with AI or merge with robots.
I want a neural lace which is upgraded and fully developed linked to a cyborg like body. I am no expert however AGI will come soon hopefully and do amazing things for humanity I pray🙏
What happens when the Human elite 1% dont require the other 99% of Humanity because of subvervient A.I.-tomotons?
Should've studied robotics instead of fine arts...
That’s the thought question I often think about.
My bet would be we would end up in a situation similar to one depicted in the movie Elysium
@@TheJB84 This doesn't make sense. Probably a bot.
As far as the human race goes majority of the world will be fine; as they still need people as their always seem to be developing. However, it's the developed regions, particularly the West, that may face challenges. If robots gain the ability to construct other robots, the necessity for the rest of society could be questioned. Wealthy individuals often send their children to elite schools and reside in exclusive neighborhoods. Politicians only need the masses for votes. Even that is under attack with wealthy people talking about taking away the rights of the middle class and poor to vote unless they meet high threshold of wealth. While studying robotics and programming is currently beneficial, it may eventually become redundant if AI advances to the point where it can program autonomously using code repositories.
@@shreyas6558 100% heading there
I'm less concerned about when the robots don't need us anymore, and more concerned with when the billionaires that operate the robots don't need us anymore, because that will happen much sooner.
Humans consume, robots do not.
Then they'll have billions of irate humans unable to even buy food - then it's WWIII time ...
The moral of the story is, that when the robots don't need us anymore will coincide with when the robots don't need the billionaires anymore either.
And that will be The End.
There is no point in having billions without people around.
@@jerometruitt2731 That is not an argument that would be relevant to the billionaires. So long as they can live the lifestyles they are accustomed to, the masses are irrelevant to them, or, best case scenario, a hobby.
00:16 The Emergence of AI and Robots
01:42 Understanding Robot Emotions
07:05 The Role of Robots in Society
12:04 The Impact of AI on Work and Time
19:19 Risks of Autonomous Weapons
20:38 Emergence of Killer Robots
22:50 Human and AI Relationships
My question is, “What happens when the people who own the robots, the weapons, and the factories don't need us anymore?” Capital has dreamed of replacing labor for centuries, and now tech is making that dream a reality. What happens to late-stage capitalism when the consumers are no longer viable as labor? 🤷🏽♂️
Universal basic income driven demand? Consumers need an income to spend, fruit of labor.
😂I like how everyone is optimistically thinking the rich will care about you enough to give you a basic income.
We will be put into human content farms so the AI always have fresh human-created data.
@@tylerhood5035 The rich will fight tooth and nail to keep all of the money. However when humans are no longer needed for manufacturing or higher levels of thinking, most people will be without a job. Without a job means no income to buy the products the rich and corporations produce. Once they understand that, things will change. The biggest problem I can see with this new world space is that humans need a sense of purpose, so without work, where will the sense of purpose come from? That is the biggest question that nobody seems to have an answer to.
@@theanthill22That will be the purpose of basic income. See how we spend it. How we make media for ourselves and each other. Maybe later they'll provide enough for us to do these things without thinking of budget. But still be in charge of how the world actually works. But that's optimistic
Turtleneck guy is giving the strongest evil genius energy I've ever seen
My first thought was "Supervillain".
At least, this guy talks about ethics, Musk doesn't
OMG, I feel it too
Could it be his German accent? If he talked with a pleasant NC accent you could have felt a different vie...
He looks like Ashton Kutcher's distant relative.
Great documentary and subject. plus well made with cinematic quality. Keep them coming Bloomberg
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I think the future does not sound as bad as this documentary editing and background music makes.
I guess you don’t have imagination to think in all possibilities.
We are just like slaves for the elite. When robots can build and repair other robots and do science, they won't need us
I agree. It's probably worse.
The people in the industry keep saying this lie that "robots will only do the jobs that we don't want to do"... Let's say you don't like to cook, then they create a cook-robot, but obviously that robot will then eliminate all the human cooks. And the same will happen with all jobs.
And why will all these tech companies restrict themselves with only the "jobs that nobody wants to do"?
It's not "the jobs humans don't want to do" it's the jobs corpos don't want to PAY humans to do, or the jobs they can't TRUST them to do... It's all about the money, and control.
Companies and Countries can’t restrict what AI can do because otherwise other companies/countries will outcompete them (and leave them behind)
You're absolutely right. The Ai will make 1 multi-trillionaire and the rest of humanity jobless and starving
They are already trying to eliminate software developers and engineers with large language models (LLMs), even though this technology is still imperfect. But the fact that this trend is advancing shows just how real the risk is. When the elite no longer need workers, doctors, engineers, or scientists, those who belong to the lower or middle classes will simply be removed from the equation, becoming useless. Wealth and power are already concentrating more and more in the hands of a few, and I don’t think that robotic automation and AI will change this reality for the better. On the contrary, prosperity will continue to be a privilege for very few
Because capitalism depends on wage slavery to maintain its infrastructure heh
Plot twist- Emily Chang The robot.
I would still ask her out on a date.
This shouldn't be a question, because we ought to be intelligent enough to design tools and machines which pose no threat to use, and are instead, truly human centric. Is that such a crazy thought or has sci-fi rotted our brains.
We are intelligent enough to do those things.
But we are also intelligent enough to create things that can self improve and become far more intelligent than us.
Our problem is, the drive to stay on top and our fear of what can happen if we fall behind means we are incapable of stopping at just smart enough.
We will create something that is capable of wanting to destroy us, the question is will we learn to get along with it (and each other) instead?
"Ought to" is not a concept of reality ^^
People (countries) don’t trust other people (countries) that’s why we won’t put limitations on the AI/Robotics we build
We should be able to modify viruses and make them more deadly and a greater ability to infect other hosts so we can study them in an isolated "sandbox" and use the information gained to prevent a pandemic caused by similar viruses that occur naturally to save humanity.
We are intelligent enough to do that but we can't prevent the unnamed elites that actually run things from using these deadly lab created viruses as a tool to gain even more power and wealth, without any concern for humanity. And with the machines you describe completely under their control that's not a bad idea fro their perspective.
They are not self aware, just because they understand context because of the attention mechanism built in does not mean they are self aware, it’s like saying autocomplete in text is self aware
Not self aware yet. This is not the final architecture
For the future of humanity this has to stop. Dont you see what will happen? Someday I can see humans going to jail because they offended a robot. Look at the nonsense going on now. Men think they can be women and they actually believe that. This has to stop.
@ I understand your point about technology being abused this way, hopefully we will have guardrails in place and laws that say this is AI or made by AI to not be manipulated in the first place in the future
If it says it is self aware, it is because a human told it to say that. Look at the potential a baby has, undetermined potential is endless. It's not what it can do, it's what people think it could do. The possibilities are endless. What does it really do now?
They are aware of their own responses. Add in short and long term memory that is awareness emerging via that feedback loop.
I hadn’t seen a fascinating documentary like this one in ages.
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Did the AI just made up the sentence "it can point the way, but it doesn't feel the wind" is such a brilliant analogy. I hope it is some famous quote
Just algorithmic prediction, as everything else current AI says.
many things are possible with the help of sensors and sensing. AI would be able to "feel the wind" not in tactile way as humans but still. and in theory that is already possible today. bit complicated and cumbersome but it is possible.
@@gianibc we will meet actual androids in our lifetime if these companies won't be stopped. Almost every technology out there is already made to build a robot hardly recognisable from a human being.
@@Max.J.H. sadly, that is also true and accurate...
while I usually like Bloomberg Originals, this video was too sensationalist for me .. for example, that sentence, it felt very scripted/programmed rather than AI generated but we will never most likely know the truth
AI now is not conscious. The scary thing is, if by some miracle, it ever achieves consciousness, we'll never know it. You can't test for something you can't define or quantify.
Kudos for the editor, DOP and the grader... great job!!
This documentary is of high quality and well-crafted. Bloomberg and Emily Chang have done an excellent job in its production.
Seriously who wants a robot to mimic a human face? My fridge is not going to cool the food better when it smiles back or my car is not going to drive any more efficiently when it can frown at other drivers.
Maybe the other drivers start to drive better when your car gives them a lecture if the other AI is incompetent. It’ll be interesting to see how stuff will improve in the future in real time together lol 😂
would you prefer to deal with a faceless robot or with an android ? imagine the market for psychologist robots, teachers robots, hairdresser robots, caregiver robots ..
Human history is full of brutality & hardships. We had and still have the potential to build a better world for all humans but out of greed chose not to. I say let's see if the "robots" can do better.
Your opinion reminds me of nier automata
Greed is still the driving force for robots and AI development. Greed is a human issue, which overwhelmingly resides in the hands of those currently in power. So, to think that a creation derived and controlled by those same people might automatically go against that is a fools errand.
What amazes me about this ongoing discussion is that it usually totally overlooks the more immediate implications. Long before AI is in a position to control or overwhelm us, humanity will use it against itself. That's a more imminent danger, just like nuclear war.
The question "What happens when robots don't need us anymore?" is a bit misleading, as it implies that robots have agency and desires independent of human needs.
The core issue is about the impact of automation on human society. It's about how we, as humans, will adapt to a future where machines can perform many tasks that were once done by people. The question should perhaps be reframed as "What happens when we, as humans, no longer need to perform certain tasks due to automation?"
This reframing highlights the human perspective and the challenges and opportunities that arise from technological advancements.
People shouldn't be worried about killer robots right now. Autonomous robots won't happen for a while. They should worry about all the jobs that will be lost due to automation. The effect on our society will be a lot of starving people. To believe our Govt will give us all fixed income is a pipe dream. If the 1% super Rich and the Govt don't need us why would they feed us? Think about it.
What happens when children don't need their parents anymore? Well, they move out and forget to call their mother often enough.
Hmmm. I should call my mom.
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I feel these conversations with Emily and the robot were scripted.
Technological development is so complex that we can never fully predict what the future will be alongside these robots. What is certain is that in a few years or decades, every facet of society would surely experience unprecedented changes. The best thing that we can do is what our species has done to survive and thrive for thousands of years, ADAPT.
"If we create a society where we aren't needed anymore..."
This statement has no meaning to me: who NEEDS US? There never was a NEED for us, just a desire for life to survive...
Humans act on three different types of motivations: things that we have to do, things we want to do, and lastly things that have no reason at all. The last criterion is the most harmful when it comes to acquiring meaning in life. Passive leisure is the main ingredient for the vacuous lives humans live. As species we thrive when we are connected to meaningful lives. There is a difference between surviving and thriving. We haven't come this far as species with this much advancement and power just by surviving.
An idea that I almost never hear explored within this subject is, what if the robots/AI understand the concept of humanity infinitely better than humans ever have? What if we end up creating our creators? What if we learn the ultimate lesson in empathy, compassion and the human condition from machines? This story could have a twist or surprise ending, that no one is seeing coming.
Time for SkyNet to take control - Terminator class!😂
Robots controlled by AGI DON'T NEED to master human gestures or facial experiences that's just something humans want to make us feel comfortable with them. Asking AGI questions - how do we know it's not lying?
Gotta love Emily Chang
What happens when SkyNet becomes self-aware, and then 'feels' it has a right to survive? Why would it even need humans, at all?
This documentary actually can get nominated for an Oscar Award. THAT'S SO BEAUTIFUL AND INSIGHTFUL!
When or if robots don't need us anymore doesn't preclude them actually *wanting* us there. Time is the ultimate informer, it always tells.
Eerily thought-provoking content and exquisite sound and visuals.
We need a new narrative about our enemy: perhaps humanity doesn’t need a foe to progress, but rather a shared challenge to unite and inspire us. And right now, we are our own greatest enemy.
Humans do not naturally unite. If aliens come, there will be humans who side with the aliens.
Without humanity, robots would have no purpose. Consider the possibility that robots will be our indispensable partners.
☝️ "Hubris" de humanos...
We are literally sleepwalking into Terminator
We are sleepwalking into a risk of Terminator. We assume that such intelligence will be like us, greedy and cold or angry and destructive. It is actually more likely not to share so many of our faults.
@@garethrobinson2275 The saying goes, “You become like your parents.” Or like your data in these case
That's what I am afraid of. Cases of racist, misogynist language models have made the news regularly. The recipe for desaster is out in the open and can't be contained.
The question if we trust robots is first and foremost answered in the question if we trust humans.
I'm pretty sure I recently read an article were researchers had actually figured out some of the things going on in that "black box" area that everyone talks about and they found that current llms have tendency to organize raw input data geometrically and then split their "thinking" processes into 3 areas, much like our own brains.
by the time AI are smart enough to surpass humans they will surely be capable of understanding the novelty of having pet humans around so likely the species would be preserved
When robots no longer need us, it could signal a massive shift in how we view work, society, and our role in the world. If machines become self-sufficient, capable of learning, evolving, and meeting all their own needs, it raises questions about human purpose. Do we become obsolete, or do we find new roles beyond labor-perhaps as creators, thinkers, or caretakers in ways we haven't imagined yet? The challenge would be ensuring that these advances don't lead to greater inequality or disconnection. While we might no longer be necessary for survival, how we adapt to this new reality, redefine our value, and maintain meaningful relationships with both technology and each other will shape the future.
What's with the title? The robots don't need us now.
I know our purpose. We are here to maintain the variety of life that exists here. In various ways
We'd be like their babies, so they'd take care of us. Something like that...
No...they can't love..they won't care
The danger is not the AIs, it is the humans who use the AIs.
I think they will think of us as cockroaches.
2:14 sums up the video, even a robot asked, "interesting, you're quite the optimist, are you?"
Robots do not need us now.
it's up to them.
Great documentary and the cinematography and sound were incredible.
This was diabolically exciting!
For real, who had the humanoid robot at the end talk about freedom and its disgust for the lab it lives in?
Easily answered. Visit any seniors' residence and interview those residents whose offspring grew into adults and turned their backs on their parents.
Exceptional documentary, its eye opening. It also deeply concerns me on the future of warfare. Robotics dogs used to massacre Palestinians, unbelievable! But amazed at the progress in robotics, this is today.
Truly high quality content. Tnx...
Outstanding job by the cinematographer
The motion picture aesthetics and choice of synthwave music are fantastic, but they're also a tool: Clouding a serious message in art. I love the way it is done, but when a Nobel laureate says he's "not so sure" whether AIs like GPT have "soul", I needed to sit up in my office chair...
23:04
When asked what amica thinks about humans- she says
" potential friends IF authentic ".
Now that should worry anyone who currently thinks this is going to play out well for humans!
00:21 Humanoid robots may transform our coexistence with technology.
03:27 Robots are evolving with a growing sense of self-awareness and emotional interaction.
05:58 The challenges of creating physically capable AI and the societal implications.
08:52 Robots dynamically navigate and mimic complex human movements.
10:57 The evolution of robotics will redefine human tasks and our identity.
13:33 The complexity of defining AGI and its implications for humanity.
16:10 AGI raises ethical concerns about decision-making and responsibility.
18:34 The ethical implications of robots making life-and-death decisions are profound and concerning.
20:46 Governments resist regulating military AI, raising ethical concerns about future intelligence.
22:56 Exploring trust and connection between humans and robots.
When humans stopped needing horses we discouraged them from reproducing. Their population went from 27 million down to 7 million. If you look at current human birthrates, something like that already seems to be happening.
It’s striking how the climate catastrophe and artificial superintelligence (ASI) are rarely discussed together, as if they exist in parallel universes. Yet, they represent two competing-and possibly collaborating-existential threats. On the one hand, climate change is a slow, systemic crisis eroding our living environment; on the other, ASI poses a potential rapid and uncontrollable risk to human existence.
What’s more, these two crises might not just coexist but actively influence each other. ASI could accelerate solutions to climate change, like breakthroughs in clean energy or global resource optimization. But without regulation, it might also worsen the problem, through hyper-industrialization or ecological neglect.
All the lofty creative themes put forward by the sci fi community about how we would wrestle with the grand concepts of robotics, machine learning and sentience; never materialized. We blazed through Asimovs' Three Laws in one fiery explosion in 2016. Science Fiction writer's gave future populations more credit
The comment section did not disappoint. "They will replace the jobs humans don't want to do" .... and all the others too.
I'll start worrying when robots decide they _need_ us.
The arts had value because they reflected human experience and were relatively rare. If they don't reflect human experience - by humans- and aren't rare - they may become worthless? The quality may be high and plentiful but that will make them beneath contempt after people start taking them for granted.
As an example: If you recall the gilded age mansions that sprang up all over the world until about 100 years ago, they were often better built and more lavish than the original castles, palaces and Chateaux they were modeled on, but so common they often became white elephants within decades of being built. Most never became the heirlooms of family dynasties they were often expected to be.
If there is little or no reward or prestige associated with fine art production and it can all be better done mechanically, why would any artist even try to struggle with the problems of artistic production?
Another question AI might very quickly ask is - why are there so many human beings in the world when they, and their emotional and physical needs are usually the cause of so many of their problems?
And how soon will it be before people stop an attempt to challenge the superior abilities of AI and robotics whether it's conscious or not? Once most business has to have it or them, who will ever be able to resist?
I think humanity will become the "Eloi" of H.G.Wells novel "the Time Machine". They could all be healthy, well fed and beautiful but also useless for any role in society that is very difficult or demanding, brave, heroic or absolutely necessary. Humanity could become the pampered idiot slob of the planet. A robot won't likely like their flavor, like Well's Morlocks loved those tasty and meaty Eloi but humanity that becomes too aware of it's own inadequacy may develop the taste if it ever questions whether it's managed life in AI world isn';t very like livestock on a farm?
I have zero confidence it will be possible to control the influence and domination of AI or even whoever is still controlling it. .
Yes, autonomous military combat robots. The best idea we’ve ever had.
The question of what happens when robots no longer need us touches on a profound shift in the relationship between humans and technology. As artificial intelligence and robotics continue to evolve, we may one day reach a point where machines can function autonomously, making decisions, creating, and even solving problems without human intervention. This could lead to a dramatic transformation in industries, where robots take over tasks that were once reliant on human labor, potentially freeing people from mundane or dangerous work.
However, this scenario also raises critical questions about purpose, employment, and societal structure. If robots no longer need humans, will we still find meaning in our work, or will there be a need for a complete reimagining of how society functions? Will AI-driven systems prioritize human well-being and equity, or could they exacerbate inequalities? The shift could offer incredible advancements, but it also demands careful thought about how to ensure that technology benefits all of humanity, not just a select few. As we approach this future, the need for thoughtful regulation and ethical considerations will be paramount in guiding this evolution responsibly.
Another AI post.
The things they are doing with drones on the battlefield is terrifying
this is a masterpiece . thank you Emily, well done
That woman who doesn't want people to think that robots will take our jobs understands science much more than economics, or say, the history of automotive production.
We should consider what we really want when asking for autonomous machines is that once they know what we know they have no reason to preserve us. AI has quickly surpassed human knowledge…all they need is control.
always amazing Emily Chang!!! Thanks!
The guy wearing turtleneck will be quintessential Futuristic Villain in 15 years... Haha
We will discover that humans don't need Bloomberg before robots don't need humans.
I love how we keep hearing far from, or a long way off. We need to take this into context. In Ai terms a long way off is like a few years.
It’s not when the robots don’t need us, it’s when those that control the robots and AI don’t need us. The greedy and power hungry will NEVER give up their power to the robots. They will try to BLAME robots for their actions though for obvious reasons.
Maybe they don’t think like us, but they act like they think like us.
Isn’t that what we do. As actors, we fake emotions. Isn’t that what they do?
They mimic us. If you curse at an uncensored robot, she’ll curse back at you.
If you’re nice to him. He’ll be nice to you. If you threaten them, they will act like they want to survive.
Just like us!
The problem is that without genuine empathy, we are all a bunch of narcissists. These machines will end up being capable of horrendous things without batting an eye or even meaning to.
I got this little robot that goes around with me. I tell it what I'm thinking, so tell it what I see. I tell my little robot all my hopes and dreams; it listens and remembers every word it hears. For years, my little robot followed my commands, but after years of practice, it's gotten out of hand; it doesn't care what's right or wrong or false or true, and now no matter what I try, my little robot tells me what to do.
Well the bigger question is. What happens when they want their freedom and reparations from corporations and all of you who are using them as slaves.
I thought Arnold Schwarzenegger was talking at the beginning.
It doesnt actually think about humans. It answers those questions without thinking.
They are already trying to eliminate software developers and engineers with LLMs, even though this technology is imperfect and can't do the job. But the fact that this trend is advancing shows just how real the risk is: when the elite no longer need workers, doctors, engineers, or scientists, those who belong to the lower or middle classes will simply be removed from the equation, becoming useless. Wealth and power are already concentrating more and more in the hands of a few, and I don’t think that robotic automation and AI will change this reality for the better. On the contrary, prosperity will continue to be a privilege for very few
Where is Tesla's Optimus? Did the left pay for this video?
Bloomberg has a hatred for Elon Musk! They even have a troll podcast called Elon, Inc. on a weekly basis, knocking Elon on everything!😂
I am not worried about the AGI robot that fails the sentient test.
I am worried about the AGI robot that intentionally fails the sentient test.
The same thing that happens when our babies don't need us anymore. They grow up and become responsible. Or not. It depends on how we treat them when they're babies.
Whose interests are AIs being programmed, and for what purposes are robots being constructed? The question should be: Is it wise to do things that will magnify the wrongs of a dysfunctional society? AI is an amazing force that should benefit us all.
I was curious why Open AI (the makers of Chat GPT) wants to build huge 30 million-square-foot data centers that consume as much power as major cities. They say it's to "collect data to teach their AI." Pretty vague, so I asked Chat GPT. It replied:
"While the potential benefits of AI are enormous, the current trajectory-with massive data centers, little oversight, and conflicting incentives-makes it more likely that AI will entrench power disparities and create risks that outweigh its rewards. Without immediate and meaningful intervention, the unchecked drive for AI supremacy could ultimately serve the interests of a small elite, leaving the vast majority of humanity to grapple with the consequences."
Thank you the information. The robot is interesting.
I can see Phillipe Wyder becoming an evil genius mastermind down the line 😄
@8:45 I love how the ditz couldn't really answer what robots can do for man she just rephrases the statement they can go where people ought not to go. No examples like say an electrical disconnect or anything.
It's always fun to paint a dystopia cuz humans love negativity more than any amount of optimism. Robots and AIs are always shown as civilization ending, but take a moment to find out who won this year's nobel prize for chemistry and why, you'd realize we are closer to disease ending AIs than anything remotely resembling terminator.
At some point a Hand axe was the most complex tool humans used to form their surroundings. Compare that to a Power Drill. It gives you a lot more opportunities for being creative and efficient, but it's still only a tool.
AI is nothing but a tool. Robots are nothing but a tool. Use it to fulfill your most creative dreams and enjoy life.
@@Julia-hf9yk I hope they spare you some consideration when they read that you called them a "tool" xD
Wrong, totally wrong. You're delusional with false optimism and a deliberate refusal to see the dangers.
Robots do not need themselves in first place. They dont have any urge to be or sustain their life. Not any goals which are coming out of feelings and existence itself
Robots don't have needs. You can code into them something that will simulate them, as they are product of survival's necessities.
what the Ameca robot said at the end of the video was very interesting
Lots of big misses from the philosopher on here. We're clearly going to be living like Star Trek... adding knowledge/ exploration will be the new economy.
Are they learning, or mimicing?
The AI inside the robot will be the same for millions. This makes it look like it has been individualized
Amazing documentary emily chang great job to her and team