Debt And Power - With Michael Hudson

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  • Опубликовано: 3 июн 2024
  • In this post we discuss debt in the current context, and consider where the very high levels of debt will take us. And as importantly, who wins and who loses.
    Michael Hudson is an American economist, Professor of Economics, Author of Killing the Host and “and forgive them their debts,” among many earlier books. Many articles and interviews are available on michael-hudson.com/
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Комментарии • 527

  • @tonyskoulakis4975
    @tonyskoulakis4975 4 года назад +72

    I have been following Micheal for years he's an amazing economist and expert in monetary history.

    • @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
      @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 3 года назад

      @Der Gorghast In a "managed the Rockefellers" way.

    • @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
      @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 3 года назад +3

      @Der Gorghast So you're not able to look up basic information? Michael Hudson wrote a book called "Super-Imperialism" and because it so well explained capitalism then Hudson was hired as the chief economist - the accountant for the Rockefellers. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hudson_(economist) worked as a balance of payment economist in Chase Manhattan Bank (1964-1968). In 1964, Hudson, who had just received his master's degree in economics, joined Chase Manhattan Bank's research economics department as a balance-of-payments specialist. His task was to establish the payment capacity of Argentina, Brazil and Chile. Based on data on their export earnings and other international payments, Hudson had to find out what kind of income the bank could get from the debt payments that these countries had accumulated. He recalled as such: "I soon found that the Latin American countries I analyzed were fully "loaned up." There were no more hard-currency inflows available to extract as interest on new loans or bond issues. In fact, there was capital flight". Among other important tasks that Hudson performed in Chase Manhattan were an analysis of the balance of payments of the American oil industry and the tracking of dirty money that settled in the banks of Switzerland. According to Hudson, this work has given him invaluable experience in understanding how banks and the financial sector work as well as understanding how banking accounting and real life correlate. It was during the study of oil companies' flows (the study was funded by Chase Manhattan and Socony Oil Company) that Hudson met with Alan Greenspan (future Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors) who acted as an observer for Socony Oil. Hudson recalled that Greenspan had already successfully lobbied the interests of his clients in those years and in the framework of the research tried to provide rough estimates of the American market based on global trends: "Mr. Rockefeller, Chase President, told me to inform Mr. Greenspan that unless he could provide specifically US figures, and/or be forthright about his assumptions, we would have to leave his contribution out of the study".[citation ne

    • @lindamohamed5296
      @lindamohamed5296 3 года назад +1

      me too

    • @PikachooUpYou
      @PikachooUpYou 3 года назад +2

      @@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 So what you’re saying is he has a first hand knowledge of the financial system from the inside, how evil and corrupt it is and believes it’s the root of almost all of our social economic problems to date. You could have just said that.

    • @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
      @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 3 года назад

      @@PikachooUpYou If u can repeat what @Der Gorghast had stated first to which I then replied then I can properly reply to you also. thanks

  • @yuser5821
    @yuser5821 4 года назад +76

    Excellent guest. Very informative, specially this fact: The bigger the stimulus into Wall St (including bail outs), the more that is sucked out of the real economy.

    • @AlienLivesMatter
      @AlienLivesMatter 4 года назад +5

      No bail in or bail out Y User.
      Eat the political pigs

    • @altbinhax
      @altbinhax 4 года назад +2

      Animal Farm

    • @yuser5821
      @yuser5821 4 года назад +1

      @@AlienLivesMatter , Who is advocating bail outs?

    • @countchivas
      @countchivas 4 года назад

      Interesting history lesson...but he's a BIG GOVERNMENT MARXIST. Perhaps he doesn't know his history that well! LOL

    • @yuser5821
      @yuser5821 4 года назад +4

      @@countchivas Whatever his persuasion, he gives a good explanation of the status quo.

  • @chrish9155
    @chrish9155 4 года назад +36

    Thank you for bringing up this honest man to your show!

    • @sword7872
      @sword7872 4 года назад +6

      Yes so refreshing when someone is honest and cares about the majority. Didn't realise Obama is the worst president of the century!

  • @theobradley5926
    @theobradley5926 4 года назад +82

    Magnificent Interview Mr North. Best to your guest Michael.

  • @geb9927
    @geb9927 4 года назад +26

    The bailing out of these corporations is what blows my mind. The government rewards them for corruption and mismanagement. The government hands over money but takes no stake in ownership??? Would the same government hand over money to bail to bail me out of my mortgage and take no stake when it does so?

    • @OMGAnotherday
      @OMGAnotherday 4 года назад +10

      GEB - Not government, Oligarchs. We lost our governments a long time ago.

    • @AlienLivesMatter
      @AlienLivesMatter 4 года назад +5

      Yeah L N, donors own our bought’n’paid4 politicians.
      The political system is designed to obfuscate the rights of regular taxpayers, while preferential treatment is given to wholesale tax evaders and political donors.
      Anger is a byproduct of frustration, violence is a choice...
      Let’s hope our predatory politicians don’t leave violence as the only viable option for change.

    • @OMGAnotherday
      @OMGAnotherday 4 года назад +1

      Jæ Š - Agree, But I don’t know who will carry out the violence, I see lots of calls for violence, but no ordinary person quite rightly wants anything to do with that, I certainly don’t want any blood she’d in my name. I have thought about damaging property as part of a protest, but it’s only a thought.
      This is a war of attrition, and right now the Oligarchs have all the power, all the money and all the weapons, I don’t know how we are going to get out of this.
      I think the lockdown came because we were causing them trouble, and they used the marshal law card( or next thing to marshal law).
      I could be wrong on all of this of course, but I don’t think so.

    • @Nimyra
      @Nimyra 4 года назад +2

      The companies are owned by the people in government duh?

    • @ccahill2322
      @ccahill2322 4 года назад +2

      This is cognitive dissonance. It applies to the vast majority of citizens. The government is not responsible to you the voter citizen they are, quite simply the agents/employees of those who print the money. You will not understand this fact until you educate yourself ,until you realize "the Emperor has no clothes".

  • @peoplearepower2622
    @peoplearepower2622 4 года назад +50

    Fantastic interview. We really do have to start looking at economics in a different way. Thankyou Martin.

    • @tomtesoro7994
      @tomtesoro7994 4 года назад +8

      STEVE KEEN has been saying the same critiques of neo-liberalism for a decade. UNTIL neo-liberalism DIES ( by way of a world wide collapse ) WE in OZ will soon see the extreme poverty Mr Hudson has described.. THIS OZ government Worships Wall Street and its bankers ( ps USA capital investment in OZ is now $1 Trillion, with UK @ $500 billion) and thus we in OZ are the new 'serfs' to labour for USA and OZ bankers

    • @peoplearepower2622
      @peoplearepower2622 4 года назад +4

      @@tomtesoro7994 You may enjoy this with Steve Keen and Michael Hudson -
      www.rt.com/shows/front-running/476294-billionaire-tax-usa-finances/

    • @redsed1565
      @redsed1565 4 года назад +1

      @@peoplearepower2622 Thanks PAP. Great interview! Go Bernie!

    • @Jw196O
      @Jw196O 4 года назад

      Three economists worth listening to: Michael Hudson, Richard Werner & Steve Keen.

    • @redsed1565
      @redsed1565 4 года назад +1

      @@Jw196O U should check out this guy named Donlad Trump as well! LOL

  • @craigshelton5903
    @craigshelton5903 3 года назад +1

    Michael Hudson is the world’s greatest economist.

  • @nuvisionprinting
    @nuvisionprinting 4 года назад +17

    Holy sweet Jesus! I've beem waiting for a guest of this stature for a long time on your channel! I'll be contributing to your PayPal if you can keep up having guests of this stature!
    I have read his other book J is for junk economics! Awesome read!
    Keep up the hard work Martin!

    • @PikachooUpYou
      @PikachooUpYou 3 года назад

      Read some David Graeber books. They are/were(RIP) friends and worked together. “Bullshit Jobs” “Debt” etc. Amazing and excellent work.

    • @nuvisionprinting
      @nuvisionprinting 3 года назад

      @@PikachooUpYou I have been following and reading some of his work for years! David is an intellectual that is ahead of his time & honestly I think he managed to get on the wrong side of quite a few by speaking the truth!

  • @tdreamgmail
    @tdreamgmail 3 года назад +1

    This should be required viewing for every person on the planet. It's always rich vs poor, since the beginning of time.

  • @annakryzilinski4748
    @annakryzilinski4748 4 года назад +12

    Great guest. He's a great author too. Multiple videos online.
    "Two dynamics define the economy in the 21st century:
    1. We have substituted debt-driven speculation for productive investment.
    2. We have substituted debt for earnings.
    This is why the repricing of speculative-bubble assets can’t be stopped: debt-driven speculation is not a sustainable substitute for investing in increasing productivity.
    And debt-fueled consumption
    masquerading as “investment” is not a sustainable substitute for limiting consumption to what we earn and save."

    • @MrDan557
      @MrDan557 4 года назад

      Well said! Spot on.

  • @tebonete
    @tebonete 4 года назад +11

    Unbelievable interview thankyou for having michael on first time coming across him

  • @keithmartin2440
    @keithmartin2440 4 года назад +33

    A fantastically frank and clear explanation of what we are facing now, and quite possibly into the future. Thank you both for your hard work and sharing of your vast knowledge. Greatest respect.

  • @occupyyourmind4418
    @occupyyourmind4418 4 года назад +4

    So glad there are people like Mike Hudson speaking out.

  • @LeaPustetto
    @LeaPustetto 4 года назад +20

    Hes a genius. Thanks for having Michael on. Great video.

  • @philipjames5054
    @philipjames5054 4 года назад +6

    Martin you are a pretty smart guy in financial matters to be sure. But I got the very strong impression from you that Hudson showed you a whole new slant on world economic history and how we have arrived at this unserviceable worldwide debt crisis, as he did the rest of us. I now see more clearly why China and Russia are detaching from this disastrous situation with the USD which is a unit of debt from the moment it is conjured out of thin air and issued. Thank you for this fantastic video.

    • @peternorth3694
      @peternorth3694 4 года назад +2

      philip james are u delusional u don’t think China & Russia aren’t the next proxy! Come on champ they are 4 steps ahead of the situation ! China will be the new proxy and the beat goes on ! Oops minus a few pensioners who probably fought in wars orchestrated by these bastards !

    • @philipjames5054
      @philipjames5054 4 года назад

      Peter North no I’m not delusional and I’m not into your interpretation of what China and Russia are doing. I’ve heard all sorts of theories and yours is just a variation on some of them. Let’s agree to disagree and leave it at that.

  • @KS-yj1px
    @KS-yj1px 4 года назад +15

    Great guest!

  • @eyesee1212
    @eyesee1212 4 года назад +32

    “When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.”
    ― Napoleon Bonaparte

    • @eyesee1212
      @eyesee1212 4 года назад

      I hate to inform you, but your Chinese Government is in debt too to the elite, www.economist.com/content/global_debt_clock. they have a economy too.

    • @eyesee1212
      @eyesee1212 4 года назад

      Yes but only in China, not the world and they are in debt to the world elites.

    • @eyesee1212
      @eyesee1212 4 года назад +2

      Your right, but trust me the elites are behind this crisis. remember 1 years loss to them is like losing $1.00

    • @eyesee1212
      @eyesee1212 4 года назад

      @Ki Wise. This is just a trial run for the elites to test the sheeple out to how far they can get away with. This virus is a bio weapon, different strains in different areas. I'm sure they have been vaccinated against it already. and I'm not talking about the billionaire's here I'm talking about the gilzilionaire who's money is 3 pages higher on the chart of the rich list.

    • @aguilayserpiente
      @aguilayserpiente 4 года назад +1

      @kl wies All recessions are the cleaning of the market of competitors. Ashenfelter and Penvacel (1980). Effective 2016, the markets were already inflated, i.e. Greenspan's over exuberance. 1.5 mil from TB, 650,000 from Influenza the common cold, etc, die annually. This light Corona illness was.fortuitous for monopoly capital to clear the market. Now, monopoly capital will in by the 1/4th quarter acquire all of the merchandise and market share of the broken businesses.
      "Mayhem" is an image of the end of the capitalist state wrought by the media to deify the State. Be assured that the corporate advertisers will direct the news media tooth paste vendors to report the light at the end of the tunnel and their State tools to report "mission accomplished" bringing a sudden end to the production cessation. No, the workers of the world will not unite, as a build up of organizing growing class conscious peasants did not occur in any nation post 1965 to be a catalyst for revolution. See Fitzgerald, Francis, "Fire in the Lake," see also Gilbert, Dennis, "Sandinistas."

  • @yuser5821
    @yuser5821 4 года назад +54

    Moral Hazard! The only solution is to let those that took on the risk go under!

    • @davefinlay3252
      @davefinlay3252 4 года назад +4

      Yeah young family first home buyers that finally saved enough for a deposit and just wanted to get out of the rent cycle
      Fuk em

    • @aguilayserpiente
      @aguilayserpiente 4 года назад

      Credit finance is an indispensable part of industrial society as few sectors have the liquidity to make capital purchases: equipment for the trades, student loans, income generating real estate like farming, income generating vehicles, airplanes, mining equipment, etc.

    • @aguilayserpiente
      @aguilayserpiente 4 года назад

      @@Jj-gi2uv equipment for trades= wrenches=workers.

    • @aguilayserpiente
      @aguilayserpiente 3 года назад

      @TheCanMan Can Since 1990 Your posts are incoherent.

    • @aguilayserpiente
      @aguilayserpiente 3 года назад

      @TheCanMan Can Since 1990 Access to credit lending is indispensable in capitalism, exposing the weakest sectors to insurmountable debt. Individual consumers suffer asset shortage in capitalism and cannot purchase essentials such as food, housing, medical care, and education, in particular with declining real wages and extraction of their savings during recessionary cycles:
      The stagnant finances of American households are no surprise given the dismal performance of the U.S. economy since the middle of the last decade. Figure 1 shows the gross domestic product (GDP), the most commonly-used summary metric of U.S. economic health, from 1970 to 2011 in real (inflation-adjusted) dollars and nominal (non-inflation-adjusted) dollars. The flat real GDP growth and slow nominal growth since 2005 stands out from the trend of generally increasing GDP of the last 40 years. The 16.5% real growth between 2000 and 2010 is less than half the growth
      rate in each of the prior three decades. The decline in real and nominal GDP from 2007 to 2009 represented the first nominal decline in GDP in 60 years and the years and the largest real decline since the Bureau of Economic Analysis began keeping statistics in 1929.
      Wolff, Sarah D. “The State of Lending in America and Its Impact on U.S. Households.” Center for Responsible Lending, (June 16, 2015) ; www.responsiblelending.org/the-state-of-lending; C.F. Darrick Hamilton and William A. Darity, Jr., "The Political Economy of Education, Financial Literacy, and the Racial Wealth Gap" (Federal Research Research Series, Review, Vol. 99, Issue 1, 2017), pp. 1, 61-62, peer reviewing "State of Lending in America and its impact on U.S. Households," (When it comes to liquid assets-financial assets that can be readily converted into cash-Blacks and Latinos are nearly penniless. Based on the 2011 Survey of Income and Program Participation (SIPP), Black families have about $200 in median liquid assets, which is over 100 times less than White families with $23,000 in median liquid assets (Tippet et al., 2014). For Latino families, the median is only $340, while the Asian median estimate is $19,400. Moreover, if retirement savings are removed from our estimates of liquid assets, then the typical White or Asian family has only $3,000 in liquid assets. That is dramatically larger than the $100 and $25 respective “financial cushions” for Latino and Black families to deal with any expected or unexpected expenses or budgetary shortfalls. To put this in context, $25 would not be enough to feed a Black family of four for a single day). papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Delivery.cfm/fedlrv00073.pdf?abstractid=2918735&mirid=1
      In a market whereby asymmetric business ventures, essential governmental services, and individuals do not have adequate assets, lending became essential to basic operations:
      Credit provision. Credit fuels economic activity by allowing businesses to invest beyond their cash on hand, households to purchase homes without saving the entire cost in advance, and governments to smooth out their spending by mitigating the cyclical pattern of tax revenues and to invest in infrastructure projects. Banks directly provide a substantial amount of credit in the U.S., but, unlike in almost any other economy, financial markets are the ultimate providers of most credit.
      Liquidity provision. Businesses and households need to have protection against unexpected needs for cash. Banks are the main direct providers of liquidity, both through offering demand deposits that can be withdrawn any time and by offering lines of credit. Further, banks and their affiliates are at the core of the financial markets, offering to buy and sell securities and related products at need, in large volumes, with relatively modest transaction costs. This latter role is particularly important in the U.S., given the dominance of markets, but is often under-appreciated.
      Risk management services. Finance allows businesses and households to pool their risks from exposures to financial market and commodity price risks. Much of this is provided by banks through derivatives transactions. These have gotten a bad name due to excesses in the run-up to the financial crisis but the core derivatives activities provide valuable risk management services.
      Baily, Martin Neil, Elliott, Douglas J., "The Role of Finance in the Economy: Implications for Structural Reform of the Financial Sector" (The Brookings Institution, July 11, 2013), pp. 1-2. www.brookings.edu%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F06%2F11-finance-role-in-economy-baily-elliott.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1Kmu-gE5LdCposL80zxG_P
      C.F. The Political Economy of Education, Financial Literacy, and the Racial Wealth Gap" at pp. 1 "meager economic circumstance-not poor decisionmaking or deficient knowledge-constrains choice itself and leaves borrowers with little to no other option but to use predatory and abusive alternative financial services."

  • @thomashainsworth5161
    @thomashainsworth5161 4 года назад +7

    Best guest. I've recommended Michael Hudson to all my online contacts. His ideas are becoming popular with millennials and those who know that our economies are just rentier parties funded by central bank confetti. I recommend watching this alongside Steve Keen's latest on Renegade Inc.

  • @bonusshaker9260
    @bonusshaker9260 4 года назад +35

    Steve Keen been saying this for years.

    • @tomsoleymanbik3266
      @tomsoleymanbik3266 4 года назад +2

      Bonus Shaker so what every gambler wins at some point doesn't mean his right! What a stupid thing to say, your logic sucks.

    • @falakoala4579
      @falakoala4579 4 года назад +3

      Keen looks exhausted and bittered. All due respect to him, he is very smart and he was right eventually. But at what cost.
      Then we reset and do it all again 🎈

    • @AdamSahr-cj4kf
      @AdamSahr-cj4kf 4 года назад +2

      Not too many of us are keen on Steve Keen because he always fails on the PR and PC (political correctness) fronts. Perhaps that's why he is such a thorn...

    • @lunarmodule6419
      @lunarmodule6419 4 года назад +5

      @@tomsoleymanbik3266 What we mean is Keen has been denoncing for years the bad or currupt management of central banks and Govs. And this at the expense of the population at large. Lower wages, less secure jobs, high private debts levels just to feed and house families.

    • @AdamSahr-cj4kf
      @AdamSahr-cj4kf 4 года назад +4

      @Der Gorghast We are so well brainwashed that we have morphed into pussycat-like creatures that can only tolerate half truths carefully wrapped.

  • @Waynesworrldexcellent
    @Waynesworrldexcellent 4 года назад +14

    Wow only half way in but great guest Martin!

  • @BreakingNewGrounds1
    @BreakingNewGrounds1 4 года назад +2

    Always a pleasure to hear Mr. Hudson's clear headed perspective on economic issues. He's very unlike the vast majority of economists who behave more like propogandists.

  • @navudreneterovic2259
    @navudreneterovic2259 4 года назад +3

    Legend! Finally you put some really substance in that was easy to follow for the everyday person. More of that because that's the people who really need to know the truth. You've done a real service to the public by having Michael on. So happy😁

  • @tinaryan4023
    @tinaryan4023 4 года назад +8

    11:20 Good that you asked the crucial question regarding who the central banks are working for

  • @domgreco7
    @domgreco7 4 года назад +4

    My favorite economist. 🙏🏼

  • @masteryoda498
    @masteryoda498 4 года назад +4

    Great video, and Michael Hudson is a great guest.
    I think this wise old saying sums up the economic mess the world finds itself in:
    “The world has enough for every man’s need, BUT NOT every man’s GREED”.

  • @christopherdobbie
    @christopherdobbie 4 года назад +7

    Hudson, awesome. It's all a command economy I recall him saying, this should be good.

  • @swaldron5451
    @swaldron5451 4 года назад +4

    The politicians and financiers will be working on the principle of 'never let a good crisis go to waste'.

  • @markillingworth1929
    @markillingworth1929 4 года назад +8

    Probably one of your best friend Martin..

  • @johndouglass3010
    @johndouglass3010 4 года назад +3

    Thank you again Martin.
    There is zero lateral thinking about the big picture of this broken economy.

  • @malcross2044
    @malcross2044 4 года назад +2

    Wow, Martin...I am so happy to see one of my favorite people ever on your show! I love to use folks like MH to teach my students-at jobs like the one I have just told I do not have in 2 weeks. MH is fun and fascinating to listen to. A great time to talk about "too much debt" in Australia.
    To any watching, Michael Hudson has given several fascinating talks that can be found on youtube on this and related topics and he explains so well. Thanks Michael!

  • @geor664
    @geor664 4 года назад +4

    Thank you for bringing in Prof. Hudson. Wonderful material.

  • @cheninblanc8208
    @cheninblanc8208 4 года назад +2

    Hudson is always a great guest...........have him on as a regular.

  • @finarfin9939
    @finarfin9939 4 года назад +6

    No, private debt should not be forgiven. It undermines those that saw the scam that was going and took sensible amount of debt that was managable. This is no different to bailing out the banks. If you don't like bailing out unscrupulous gamblers because of their greed. Why should you have pity on those that took on more debt than they can manage and live it up while you suffer for you sensible choice. I disagree. Let them suffer and let those that made the sensible decisions be rewarded for using their brains.

  • @gloglos100
    @gloglos100 4 года назад +12

    Than you great talk.

  • @shareefcondon
    @shareefcondon 4 года назад +5

    Interest always leads to stealing people's wealth and debt enslavement.

  • @rohanjones7238
    @rohanjones7238 4 года назад +9

    Shared on social media hope people take the time to watch and have the insight to understand and the foresight to make personal decisions to resist

  • @adroitcozy
    @adroitcozy 4 года назад +6

    Don't borrow more than you can repay.

    • @wingkeechan5329
      @wingkeechan5329 4 года назад +2

      To be safe, don't borrow more than you can repay PLUS with a sizeable savings...

    • @Aermydach
      @Aermydach 4 года назад +2

      I like the saying "Don't write a cheque that you're arse can't cash!"
      But, yeah. Self-discipline is easier said than done. We've all been conditioned to live lives of maximum convenience and instant-gratification.

    • @adroitcozy
      @adroitcozy 4 года назад +1

      @@Aermydach and an endless amount of credit. Credit cards are evil.

    • @redsed1565
      @redsed1565 4 года назад +1

      @@Aermydach only if ur stupid!

  • @adelchidipalma46
    @adelchidipalma46 4 года назад +1

    It should bve called "fake debts and criminal power". Dear Michael Hudson I love the fact that at least you are not afraid to expose the banker's crimes. If you suggest debt forgiveness you are admitting that there was a bone-fide debt which is false. We need debt repudiation and the bankers must make restitution for the amount of money they robbed most nations.

  • @turbostyler
    @turbostyler 4 года назад +1

    Wow, I can't believe i missed this episode. It's probably the most relevant talking point of our lives, yet even I missed it.

  • @thethinkingman9338
    @thethinkingman9338 4 года назад +2

    This interview & your last one have been among the most educational I have ever watched. Thank you so very much for bring these high caliber guest on to help us grow our knowledge base - outstanding!

  • @andypatch1861
    @andypatch1861 4 года назад +2

    I've watched many videos on economic theory recently, and this without doubt one of the best on RUclips, I particularly like the historic references, many thanks to both parties. The Netflix "look over there, not over here" reference is sooo true, just like the 'bread and circus' anecdotes from Roman time......So I'm sharpening my pitchfork as I speak, you guys just give me the heads up about when we're storming the central banks!

  • @yuromacviva3695
    @yuromacviva3695 4 года назад +3

    good stuff martin ,ive read some of his stuff on zero hedge or globalresearch cant remember which it was.we are going to need your channel I hope you stay healthy .and everyone else be carefull out there and stay awesome.

  • @PikachooUpYou
    @PikachooUpYou 3 года назад

    The best episode of your show by far. Please have Michael on as often as possible. It’s a shame David Graeber is no longer with us RIP. They worked together but David was a king among economic anthropologists.

    • @WalkTheWorldDFA
      @WalkTheWorldDFA  3 года назад

      Thanks - yes I hope to have Michael on again sometime...

  • @anthonytrothe3269
    @anthonytrothe3269 4 года назад +1

    What a wonderfully enlightened guest you have here Martin. I do enjoy your shows .

  • @VichoBandido
    @VichoBandido 4 года назад +2

    Fantastic Martin. And thank you Michael, as always, very powerful messages.

  • @manflynil9751
    @manflynil9751 4 года назад +2

    A very interesting discussion. And as you mentioned Martin, this topic about debt today is fundamental and should be on everyone's lips.

  • @nachannachle2706
    @nachannachle2706 4 года назад +1

    Michael Hudson is the Richard Feynman of Economics. Thanks for sharing this video. :)

  • @CA999
    @CA999 4 года назад +7

    Oh goodie! A special!

  • @marcoeloco3936
    @marcoeloco3936 4 года назад +1

    What a fantastic explanation from Micheal Hudson, great stuff. Thank you Martin.

  • @rickbishop5987
    @rickbishop5987 4 года назад +1

    Yes- Michael Hudson.

  • @greghay2142
    @greghay2142 4 года назад +3

    Great info from both of you, well done

  • @csleuthone6385
    @csleuthone6385 4 года назад

    Michael, your brilliant! I've been following you for the past year, thank you!

  • @peternorth3694
    @peternorth3694 4 года назад +5

    Martin this episode was like watching the ending of The Usual Suspects when the detective just realises who Keyser Söze really is ! ☕️ oops don’t drop that cup of tea!

  • @tomtesoro7994
    @tomtesoro7994 4 года назад +9

    could the 5 viewers who 'thumbed down' please take their medication!

    • @Fabio-ns4ql
      @Fabio-ns4ql 4 года назад +6

      Err.... those would be the 5 big Oz banks.

  • @damianbowyer6258
    @damianbowyer6258 4 года назад +1

    Gr8 Discussion Michael and Martin.

  • @someoneelse.2252
    @someoneelse.2252 4 года назад

    I just came across this clip. Great questions and your guest, Michael Hudson was both informed and explained his answers well. Many thanks from Canada. (subscribed)

  • @ashleybeven9065
    @ashleybeven9065 4 года назад

    Brilliant chat Martin thank you!

  • @sazajac77z
    @sazajac77z 4 года назад

    Amazing interview. Thank you guys.

  • @webfreakz
    @webfreakz 4 года назад

    Great interview, thank you both!

  • @jackau08
    @jackau08 4 года назад +2

    Wow, the legend of debt based economic pandemic research. I got all Michaels books, very insightful research.

    • @yosbudi5708
      @yosbudi5708 2 года назад +1

      Oh Jack i Finally Find you, you got message from....

    • @jackau08
      @jackau08 2 года назад

      @@yosbudi5708 ??

  • @walkyourdog6584
    @walkyourdog6584 4 года назад +5

    Very interesting guest.

  • @gptech2444
    @gptech2444 4 года назад +6

    What about the people that didn't borrow recklessly and paid back their debt?

    • @KOGitnow
      @KOGitnow 4 года назад

      I don’t have debt. More than happy to have debt forgiveness.
      I also don’t have corona 🤞. But keen for those who do to get treatment.

    • @gptech2444
      @gptech2444 4 года назад +2

      @@billythekid9821 Serious? The irresponsible get bailed out or do we all get an equal handout?

    • @gptech2444
      @gptech2444 4 года назад +2

      @@KOGitnow That makes no sense.

  • @huffmanaviation7341
    @huffmanaviation7341 4 года назад +12

    Have a read of the Bankers Manifesto 1829 if you've not already. It's only short

    • @joeybrown3583
      @joeybrown3583 4 года назад +4

      Bankers Manifesto 1892 (get the date right)
      This is good too
      ruclips.net/video/WSDjvok-fW8/видео.html

    • @huffmanaviation7341
      @huffmanaviation7341 4 года назад

      @@Ninja4ssasin ruclips.net/video/G9rcgo28nG0/видео.html little video of it

  • @arffadailey8055
    @arffadailey8055 4 года назад +2

    @Walk The World Martin congratulations .One of your best.

  • @wrongthink1212
    @wrongthink1212 4 года назад +3

    Usury is a sin for a reason. This guy is smart. He sees things from a long term perspective.

  • @SteveSmith-zz4ih
    @SteveSmith-zz4ih 4 года назад +2

    Excellent informative video thanks.

  • @waynebow-gu7wr
    @waynebow-gu7wr 4 года назад +9

    I think we have just been told ( without actually saying it ), the only way out !

    • @OMGAnotherday
      @OMGAnotherday 4 года назад

      waynebow 2018 - But will the Oligarchs allow it, or would they rather just let the human race go to hell, because they have their paradise islands and their private armies?

    • @waynebow-gu7wr
      @waynebow-gu7wr 4 года назад

      @@OMGAnotherday Call me what you want... but I think that maybe they are 'stealing' as much money from us as quickly as possible, to build underground shelters for an on coming natural disaster. Unknown civilizations keep vanishing from the earth due to floods etc. The Tartarian Empire being a great example. Knowledge is being kept from us !

    • @OMGAnotherday
      @OMGAnotherday 4 года назад

      waynebow 2018 - I Agree, I wouldn’t call you anything but a person with an open mind.
      Most people can’t believe that there are individuals on this planet that couldn’t care less about others, they are called sociopaths and psychopaths, and we know exactly what kind of behaviour they are capable of.
      The fact that the modern world has enabled them to congregate and communicate has only enhanced their power, and yes they and their system is destroying the human race.
      I’m not sure if the rest of us will be strong enough to arrest the planet back from these people, however I can see that their measures of control have to be stronger and more intense each time the system gets into trouble.
      With regards to natural disaster, well there is no underground bunker that will save them, if it’s so bad they have to go underground, then the likelihood of them surviving in the long term is small, and even if they do, how do you think a bunch of psychopaths will survive in the event of them being the only ones left, it would not be long before they turned on each other that being their nature!

    • @waynebow-gu7wr
      @waynebow-gu7wr 4 года назад +1

      @@OMGAnotherday Good point. They would all be used to giving orders and having their own way. They wouldn't be able to work as a team to survive.

    • @OMGAnotherday
      @OMGAnotherday 4 года назад

      waynebow 2018 - Exactly, and I think this is one of the major factors that we need to keep in mind.
      “We the people” get called sheep, but in actual fact we are the people that keep the world going round.
      It will be 100’s of years before they can do away with human labour completely, so “they” need us whether they like it or not.

  • @MrMfiling
    @MrMfiling 4 года назад

    that was beautiful Michael Hudson, thank you.

    • @WalkTheWorldDFA
      @WalkTheWorldDFA  4 года назад +1

      Thanks - yes, I thought this was a special conversation, especially now!

  • @denischang8621
    @denischang8621 4 года назад

    This is again brilliant, thanks Martin 👏

  • @morwickchesterham3875
    @morwickchesterham3875 4 года назад +3

    0:50... such a simple question... and an obvious answer... too bad so many people are blind to the obvious

  • @CookieMonster-wy4qb
    @CookieMonster-wy4qb 4 года назад +3

    Thank u Martin ! 👌

  • @michaelayliffe7238
    @michaelayliffe7238 4 года назад +2

    His other book J is for Junk Economic, it explains the Orwellian economic double speek, a dictionary. Plenty of his interviews on the tube, where he explains the geography of wall street.

  • @timmcmaster6435
    @timmcmaster6435 3 года назад

    Thank you both ❤️

  • @1VirginiaL
    @1VirginiaL 4 года назад

    I. had never heard of this channel, but when Michael Hudson said that the 15 or so people who were talking about his concerns had been guests here (26:12), I subscribed.

  • @speaksistereasy4504
    @speaksistereasy4504 4 года назад

    Great discussion

  • @4ssiduous
    @4ssiduous 2 года назад

    Thanks Martin and Michael for sharing! This knowledge is so important for the freedom and living standards of the 99%, and thus needs to be more commonly known.

  • @aspant4814
    @aspant4814 4 года назад

    An honest man who doesn't mince words. Citigroup must love him. I don't agree with jubilee but he does make good points about the banks inflating the greatest debt bubble the world has ever seen. Currently over 250tn. Great guest. Thanks.

  • @georgekeiser3867
    @georgekeiser3867 4 года назад +11

    Martin, you look chuffed that you;re interviewing him. Dr Hudson is awesome, I've read his books and love his work. He cops a lot of criticism for being Marxist, but how can you be Marxist if you're an excellent economist who understands history?

    • @georgekeiser3867
      @georgekeiser3867 4 года назад +3

      @@billythekid9821 that sounds Marxist...

    • @anthonythomas4541
      @anthonythomas4541 4 года назад +6

      He is criticised for being Marxist by the Totalitarians because he is actually a Capitalist.

    • @georgekeiser3867
      @georgekeiser3867 4 года назад +4

      @@anthonythomas4541 That's right, but some people don't understand that

    • @OMGAnotherday
      @OMGAnotherday 4 года назад +2

      Billy The Kid - You are an uneducated idiot!

  • @hoffhomme7106
    @hoffhomme7106 4 года назад +4

    Stage 1 begins........NAB conjuring the idea of foregoing home mortgage payments for 6 mths, that's avg loan of 400k allowing borrowers to keep approx 11k over that period to assist with their living cost's...........Of Course!! they can afford to do this now that rates are virtually ZERO, so weighing up the potential outcomes is it better to foreclose on over a million mortgages OR run at slight loss?

  • @nowwhereisthetruth2475
    @nowwhereisthetruth2475 4 года назад

    great content. thanks Mr North.
    history doesn't repeat, but it often rhymes

    • @nowwhereisthetruth2475
      @nowwhereisthetruth2475 4 года назад

      @@chris0tube they didn't have CDS's and CLO's nor the electronic means of issuing fiat currency in 3000 BC. so it rhymes.
      while the whole world falls apart do you really need to attack some rando on yt.
      heading back to me rock

  • @MrDan557
    @MrDan557 4 года назад

    Hudson is the best economist on the planet. I like our own Steve Keen as well.

  • @100perdido
    @100perdido 3 года назад +1

    The beauty of Capitalism and banking is that a bank can make a mortgage loan of $250,000 at 5% interest using money they don't have, money they created, and charge the borrower a total of $483,000 over a 30 year period. The bank does not get to keep the original $250, 000 they printed but they do get to keep the interest of $233,000 the borrower paid.
    So for each 1 Million Dollars (4 houses) a bank can create and loan out at 5%, they make $932,000. For 1 Billion Dollars worth of loans (4000 houses) the bank makes at this rate, they make $932 Million Dollars in interest.
    A small town of 40,000 homes (around 120,000 or so inhabitants) would net the bank $9,320,000,000.00 over 30 years. That is 9 Billion Three Hundred Twenty Million Dollars in interest off this town of 40,000 homes.
    For a city of 400,000 of these homes, or around 1.5 Million people, the interest collected increases by another factor of 10, bringing the interest collected to $932,000,000,000. That's Nine Hundred Thirty Two Billion Dollars just in interest collected by the banks with money they printed in the back office.

  • @daniellesomerfield8799
    @daniellesomerfield8799 4 года назад

    Such wisdom.

  • @lukes5533
    @lukes5533 4 года назад +1

    Wow what an insight into the real way the world is ruled

  • @matthewturen4379
    @matthewturen4379 4 года назад

    One of the best talk. We, people following this channel know what is the reality, but how this situation will turn around to benefit the people? It looks like there is no hope for the masses until "Mad Max" times comes along in the future.

  • @remiewatkins8032
    @remiewatkins8032 4 года назад

    Awesome job

  • @tomgreg2008
    @tomgreg2008 4 года назад

    Yank here. Great show! Thanks!

  • @henrynguyen9593
    @henrynguyen9593 4 года назад

    One of the best i must say. Micheal provides a great inside into that grey area of society. Facts and reasonable argument that does not go too far into conspiracy. Also, it is unfair that the 1% is trying to down the market to shift everyone’s wealth into theirs, it does makes me think a bit when considering Theory of Evolution.

  • @paulwary
    @paulwary 4 года назад

    Kudos Martin

  • @richardk5209
    @richardk5209 4 года назад

    Thank you. It's pay back time !!!

  • @plroud6801
    @plroud6801 4 года назад

    Excellent

  • @zarkoristov5585
    @zarkoristov5585 4 года назад

    @Walk the world.
    Your videos are not only transparent but crystal clear.Almost bettet than 8k UHD 200hz screen.Love it ;)

  • @davidleeandrew5756
    @davidleeandrew5756 4 года назад +1

    This is worthwhile & sensible. Unfortunately, near the end, the guest refers to 'libertarianism' in the sense Americans use it: minimal government. Here in Australia (& UK) too, we use the JS Mill definition: that a person should be at liberty to behave as they like so long as their behaviour has no adverse effect on others. Put another way, that restrictions on liberty, whether legal or religious or social or familial, should be NECESSARY rather than ideological or paternalistic. This is quite consistent with BIG government doing the planning & undertaking redistributive economic responsibilities. To someone in the US, it seems a contradiction. There are many examples of US English usage diverging in confusing ways from the rest of the English speaking world.

  • @michaeljp9605
    @michaeljp9605 4 года назад +2

    Great interview Martin, and great guest. Unless something changes our youth is screwed, clearly they want our elderly out of the way. Time for a revolution I think.

  • @bjkhy5297
    @bjkhy5297 9 месяцев назад

    great show thanks please try to get these ideas on our so called independent ABC

  • @theskeptic2798
    @theskeptic2798 4 года назад +2

    There has been a debt jubilee , for the banks

  • @timmortimer7528
    @timmortimer7528 5 месяцев назад

    A very topical interview still now in December 2023..
    I think my favourite insight amongst the many is that “bad debt” should be thought of as “bad loans”. My understanding is that mercantile or business to business debt would not be written off however year to year consumer debt could be - at least to some extent in order to free up the productivity of the economy. A long term strategy to build the economy would therefore have to be put in place beforehand, and a public bank could be part of this equation.

    • @WalkTheWorldDFA
      @WalkTheWorldDFA  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks - yes the content is probably even more relevant now....

  • @patbranigan6501
    @patbranigan6501 4 года назад +1

    My parents who were depression kids saved for everything. Yeah they bought the house on a mortgage but that is a secured debt that they could walk away from and as they paid for nothing else on credit they didn't care about a credit score. They saved for every purchase they made. Id they didn't have the money we didn't get the thing. I never went on a school trip because we could not afford it. We had 1 TV. We had 1 car. Needs were purchased above wants. I strayed for a while but now only my car and house are on credit and I am about to pay off my car ahead of time. If everyone lived as I do then the stock market would be more sane and the government could not afford endless war and CEOs would not be living so high!

  • @lauralucio314
    @lauralucio314 4 года назад +1

    Debt Jubilee for the people!