They just answered their own question, the angels “In Heaven” don’t marry doesn’t say anything about earth. And Jesus was talking about the resurrection when he referenced that scripture.
Part 2) In Genesis 5 is the genealogy of Adam. The list starts with Adam and ends with Noah. This is a list of father and son. The list also shows how long each man lived. They all lived a GIANT life. Take Methuselah for example. Methuselah lived 969 years and then he died found in Genesis 5:27. Methuselah in Genesis 5:25 begot Lamech at the age of 187. The age Methuselah begot a son at 187 years is TOTALLY remarkable in today’s standards of becoming a parent, it does not happen in today’s world. Methuselah is the most renowned person in scripture because of his old age of 969. This is also a list of fallen men, because of sin and the fall of man in Genesis 3. The Hebrew word “Nephilim” means fallen ones, sometimes translated giant because the Greek word for nephilim is gigantes. Another Hebrew word naphal means "to fall". This is where the word nephilim comes from. This is another one of Satan’s lies. First Satan replaces fallen men with fallen angels. Secondly what Satan does is that he ignores the age of these men and puts height in the place of age. Thirdly which is Key for his Lie, is that he makes people believe that the “sons of God” are angels, when the “sons of God” are human. Reason why is because of the burnt offerings that started with Abel and ended with Noah. But Abel was murdered, so Seth was next in line after Adam. That leads us to Genesis 5 which lists the “sons of God”. Noah is the only person on the list that it is recorded in scripture that has given a burnt offering directed to God. That is found in Genesis 8:20 and 21. “Then Noah built an altar to the LORD, and took of every clean animal and of every clean bird, and offered burnt offerings on the altar. 21 And the LORD smelled a soothing aroma. Then the LORD said in His heart, “I will never again curse the ground for man’s sake, although the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth; nor will I again destroy every living thing as I have done.” How would have Noah known what a burnt offering is? The only answer is that he would have learned that from his earthly father. Noah’s father was Lamech. Genesis 5: 28 and 29 “Lamech lived one hundred and eighty-two years, and had a son. And he called his name Noah, saying, “This one will comfort us concerning our work and the toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD has cursed.” Genesis 5 is the list of men who probably gave burnt offerings to God and worshiped God with a sacrifice. Fallen angels do not worship God and they do not present themselves with a burnt offering. Noah and his sons are mentioned in Genesis 5:32 right before Genesis 6:2 and 4 where the title “sons of God” are mentioned in scripture. Noah and Job each gave a burnt offering directed to God and their names appear right before the title “sons of God” comes up in scripture. Another verse people us is Genesis 3:15. Gen. 3:15 “And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel.” This verse the Seed of the woman is Jesus (Truth). Satan’s seed is the seed of sin (Lies). Jesus also is the seed of righteousness, where Satan’s seed is unrighteous. Genesis 3 is about the fall of man. Satan is the only fallen angel mentioned. Jesus calls Satan the father of Lies in John 8:44 “You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.” Jesus is pretty much saying Satan is Absolute LIE. When Jesus would be ABSOLUTE TRUTH. Here in John 8 Jesus is rebuking His accusers. Jesus’s discussion with the accusers is about Abraham’s seed and Satan’s seed. Abraham’s seed is Israel, while Satan’s seed is Lies. Jesus actually says what Satan’s seed is. Satan's seed is he is the "father of Lies". It is NOT rebellious/fallen angels mixing in with human DNA or Satan having sex with Eve. Satan’s seed is LIES that mixes into the human mind. In Genesis Genesis 3:4 “ Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die.” In this verse Satan is clearly lying to the women. He attacks her mind, making the woman doubt. This is Satan’s first Lie. God is talking to the man in Genesis 2:17 “ but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.” In this verse God is giving a warning and telling the truth. God said “you shall surely die.” Comparing Genesis 2:17 and Genesis 3:4 you can see how the exchange of the Truth of God for a Lie. This is how Satan works in the world. He creates Lies. That is his seed. Romans 1:25 says “who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever.” Satan gets worship and served by all the Lies he puts into the minds and hearts of people. Fallen angels being the “sons of God” mentioned in Genesis 6 and in the book Job would be a lie. Burnt offerings debunk that lie of Satan. Hence forth Ephesians 6:12 “For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.” This verse clearly shows Satan’s celestial hierarchy. With Jesus the Truth will set you free (John 8:32), while Satan’s Lies will keep you captive. AGAIN, fallen/rebellious angels or Satan mixing in with human DNA is a Lie or even fallen/rebellious angels and Satan procreating with women is a LIE. Demons also promote Satan’s lies as well. Satan also promotes his lies with the book of Enoch and other non biblical books. The book of Enoch is not Authoritative scripture or is inspired by God. The book was not even recognized by the Jews. Many are like Rome and have to add to scripture to make something sound true when it is not true. So much for Sola-Scripture. Just and end Note on burnt offerings. Burnt offerings also show God's Judgement on man.
Who are the Sons of God in Genesis 6 before the flood of Noah? Sons of God (ANGELS) shout before the world began - Adam man came 6 days later. Job 38:4 - Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. Job 38:5 - Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Job 38:6 - Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; Job 38:7 - When the morning stars sang together, and all the SONS OF GOD sons of God shouted for joy? How can the sons of God be men since they were shouting for joy when the earth was created? Adam man did not come till 6 days AFTER the earth was made. Adam was a Son of God since he created him - Angels are SONS of God since God created them and was their Father Jesus is the only BEGOTTEN SON of GOD - Believers DO NOT become Sons of God till they are born again of the Holy Spirit only in the new testament So were all the SONS OF GOD of Genesis 6 the men who were ALL righteous the DAUGHTERS OF MEN were all women who were ALL wicked and evil So all the men were godly and the women were evil ? Really can we believe this: all the men were godly and the women were evil then the godly men and wicked women got married and believers and unbelievers had children who were GIANTS so where are these giants today? Playing for the NBA? 2 Samuel 21:20 - And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant. so see any unbelievers running around with 6 fingers and toes? then the Lord commanded all the they be killed 1 Chron 20:4 - And it came to pass after this, that there arose WAR WAR WAR at Gezer with the Philistines; at which time Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Sippai, that was of the children of the giant: and they were subdued. 2 Sam 21:18 - And it came to pass after this, that there was again a battle with the Philistines at Gob: then Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Saph, which was of the sons of the giant. 1Ch 20:6 - And yet again there was WAR WAR WAR at Gath, where was a man of great stature, whose fingers and toes were four and twenty, six on each hand, and six on each foot: and he also was the son of the giant. so God wanted war with the children of the wicked human women who did not believe? so where are the giants today? Deuteronomy Chapter 7 [NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT] 1 When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou; 2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, [and] utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: 3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son. Were all the (men) sons of God good holy people and all the daughters (women) of men were evil & wicked? This is what 90+ % of all churches teach today. This does not make any sense to me....How can believers and unbelievers have giants for children? Why would God destroy the earth in a flood? Why not send evangelists to preach to the unbelievers instead? Unless of course the fallen angels polluted the blood line DNA of the line of humankind or Adam. Were the sons of God the fallen angels? Is this the origin of the devils or demons? Think David and Goliath the giant Philistine champion soldier. If you believe the son's of God were Godly men... Please explain why Israel was commanded to KILL ALL the CANAANITES and the giant Phillistines (remember Goliath) who were of of the canaanites? ...and the flood of Noah Zep 2:5 Woe unto the inhabitants of the sea coast, the nation of the Cherethites! the word of the LORD is against you; O Canaan, the land of the Philistines, I will even destroy thee, that there shall be no inhabitant. So please explain, with a wealth of Bible knowledge, why God commanded Israel to exterminate all the Canaanites and the giant Phillistines (Goliath and David) Deu 20:17 - But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee: Num 21:3 - And the LORD hearkened to the voice of Israel, and delivered up the Canaanites; and they utterly destroyed them and their cities: and he called the name of the place Hormah. Why did the Lord not tell Joshua to please send evangelists to tell them the ways of the Lord? No, instead the Lord commanded they all be killed. Zec 14:21 - Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts. NO QUOTES FROM ENOCH or anything except the Bible Read again...no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts. The view of the sethite Adamite sons of God makes the Lord sound like a homicidal maniac.............
@Chaplain Bob Walker B. I will just respond to Job 38 Job 38 Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said: 2 Who is this who darkens counsel By words without knowledge? 3 Now prepare yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer Me. 4 “Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding. 5 Who determined its measurements? Surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it? 6 To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone, 7 When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy? 8 “Or who shut in the sea with doors, When it burst forth and issued from the womb; 9 When I made the clouds its garment, And thick darkness its swaddling band; Notice the three "Or Who" in verses 5-8. Verses 5-8 are talking about the creation period of the earth up to the flood. Using the NKJV, the NKJV capitalizes the THREE "Or Who" in verses 5, 6 and 8. Other Bible versions also use "Or Who" as well. This is all one complete thought because the THREE "Or Who" in verses 5,6 and 8 because the word "OR" is a CONJUNCTION. The conjunctions of the three "Or's" tells us that the time period is from creation of the earth to the flood, that would be the timeline or to say time frame. Conjunctions are used in Hermeneutics to help interpret scripture. Job 38: 1-9 is not just at the time of creation. People that take the position to the angel view, teach that this is just at the time of creation, which is partly true. The angel view just use verses 1 - 7. The fact is the time period or a time frame is from the time of creation up to imtil the flood In Job 38: 1-9. That is what Job 38:8 is about, the flood of the earth. People that hold to the angel view ignore and leave out the final and third conjunction which is the "Or Who" in Job 38:8 which talks about the flood of the earth in poetic language. Job 38: 8 and 9 are ignored. Verse 8 says "“Or who shut in the sea with doors, When it burst forth and issued from the womb;" This verse is clearly talking about the flood. Verse 9 says "When I made the clouds its garment, And thick darkness its swaddling band;" This verse is clearly talking about clouds, rain comes from clouds. When using the three conjunctions ("OR Who") a person can see the complete thought and time frame or time line that is being illustrated in Job 38:1-9. Sometime in between the creation of the earth and the flood (ancient world) God laid the cornerstone and the morning stars sang and the sons of God shouted for joy in Response to the cornerstone being laid. The word "cornerstone" is a building term. The "cornerstone" has a two uses that it is applied to. Because of the Two main sacrifices in the OT and NT. The first use is a literal cornerstone. The cornerstone is used in building of the Altars with the sacrifices and the offerings that were presented unto God. These Altars where made of stones or rocks. We know this because of Genesis 4: 3-5 "3 And in the process of time it came to pass that Cain brought an offering of the fruit of the ground to the Lord. 4 Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat. And the Lord respected Abel and his offering, 5 but He did not respect Cain and his offering. And Cain was very angry, and his countenance fell." A question comes up is How did Abel and Cain each know to build an Altar unto the Lord? It is not commanded that Cain and Abel were to each build an Altar. Many suggest that in Genesis 3:21 that Lord God sacrificed an animal on the Altar so Adam and Eve would have a covering of their nakedness. Genesis 3:21 "Also for Adam and his wife the Lord God made tunics of skin, and clothed them." So a person can only imagine that the Lord God Laid the cornerstone, scripture does not really say. But when Adam and Eve covered themselves, they covered themselves with Fig Leaves. Genesis 3:7 "Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves coverings." What is really interesting is that with Adam and Eve they covered themselves with leaves from a plant. Cain's offering was a plant from the ground. Where Abel's offering was a Living Sacrifice with blood shed on the Altar and the covering the Lord God clothed Adam and Eve with was from a Living Animal. Both the when the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy are in Response to God laying the "cornerstone". Cornerstones were also used in the construction of the Temple, was the First cornerstone laid. The morning stars sang together are in the heavens in Job 38:7 are probably referring to Celestial. The celestial works of God would refer to what is in the heavens, which are sun, moon, stars and angels. The sons of God are in Job 38:7 are probably referring to Genesis 5. The Flood of the earth started in Genesis 7. Summarizing how the Three conjunctions give us the Time Frame or Time Line. Job 38: 4-6a Creation (Beginning of the Time Frame or Time Line) Job 38: 6b-7 Cornerstone laid and Response to God laying the Cornerstone (Some time in between Creation and the Flood or to say in the middle of the Time Frame or Time Line ) Job 38: 8-9 The Flood (End of the Time Frame or Time Line) Job 38 Verses 4-9 are in harmony with Genesis Chapters 1-7. The second use of the cornerstone is in reference to Jesus. This is more of a prophetic and spiritual use of the cornerstone being laid. Jesus as the cornerstone verse are found in: 1 Peter 2:7 "Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who are disobedient, “The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief cornerstone,” Acts 4:11 "This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone." Ephesians 2:20 "having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone," Cornerstone verses are also found in Psalm 118:22, Isaiah 28:16 Sons of God shouted for Joy Psalm 51:12 "Restore to me the joy of Your salvation, And uphold me by Your generous Spirit. Isaiah 12:3 "Therefore with joy you will draw water From the wells of salvation" Psalm 35:9 "And my soul shall be joyful in the Lord; It shall rejoice in His salvation." Psalm 95:1 "Oh come, let us sing to the Lord! Let us shout joyfully to the Rock of our salvation." The reason sons of God shout for Joy is because they rejoice in Salvation that comes from God. When Jesus was crucified on the Cross for the sins that man commits, our salvation is in Faith in what Jesus did on the Cross, simply put believing the Gospel. The sacrifice Jesus offered on the Cross is perpetual, while the sacrifices on the Altar were only good until the next one was offered.The Altar is a foreshadowing of the Cross.
@ Jonathan Cisneros AS the Bible records, Yes, I see Cain as the first murderer. Actually the ground was cursed before the Cain murdered Abel Genesis 3:17 Then to Adam He said, “Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat of it’: “Cursed is the ground for your sake; In toil you shall eat of it All the days of your life. In Genesis 4:2-8 2 Then she bore again, this time his brother Abel. Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. 3 And in the process of time it came to pass that Cain brought an offering of the fruit of the ground to the Lord. 4 Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat. And the Lord respected Abel and his offering, 5 but He did not respect Cain and his offering. And Cain was very angry, and his countenance fell. 6 So the Lord said to Cain, “Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen? 7 If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it.” 8 Now Cain talked with Abel his brother; and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother and killed him. When reading the Two offerings presented to God. God accepts Abel's offering because it is a Living sacrifice with shed Blood. Abel's offerings was a young Lamb. Cains's offering was from the ground. 2 reasons I see why God rejected Cain's offering. First is because his offering on the Altar was from the ground with no blood shed, Not a Living sacrifice. Second is since God cursed the ground He will not accept a offering from the ground, since the ground is cursed.
@ Chaplain Bob Walker B. You ask "Who are the Sons of God in Genesis 6 before the flood of Noah?" Simple the sons of God are listed in Genesis 5 “When listening to any of the 3 views, a person NEVER HEARS Like I said in the original comment “When listening to any the 3 views, a person NEVER HEARS Justification by Faith, the Animal blood sacrifices and the Altar of offerings, and Jesus sacrifice on the Cross (Faith in the Gospel) to define the sons of God in the Old Testament.” , the Animal blood sacrifices and the Altar of offerings, and Jesus sacrifice on the Cross (Faith in the Gospel) to define the sons of God in the Old Testament.” Watching this video Dr. John Stevenson does touch Justification by Faith and Grace for Noah. The names listed in Genesis 5 and the meaning of the names in Hebrew. Adam (Genesis 5:3-5) Adam means “Man” Seth (Genesis 5:3, 6-8) Seth means “put” or “appointed” or "Substitute" Enosh (Genesis 5:6, 9-11) Enosh mean a " mortal man" Cainan (Genesis 5:9, 12-14) Cainan means dwelling place Mahalalel (Genesis 5:12, 15-18) Mahalalel means "praise God or God be praised" Jared (Genesis 5:15, 18-20) Jared means "descend" Enoch (Genesis 5:18, 21-24) Enoch means "to initiate or discipline:-dedicate, train up" Methuselah (Genesis 5:21, 25-27) Methuselah means" [his] death will send away, cast out. Lamech (Genesis 5: 25, 28-31) Lamech means " to be low, depressed or grow poor or impoverished" Noah (Genesis 5:28-29) Noah’s name means "comfort or rest" When putting the meaning of these names in a Phrase this is how it reads. Man [is] appointed a mortal man [in his] dwelling place. Praise God, [He] descended to discipline and train-up. [His] death will send away, cast out, the depressed, the despairing. The One [Jesus] will comfort us and give us rest. The names listed in Genesis 5 and the meaning of the names in Hebrew. Adam (Genesis 5:3-5) Adam means “Man” Seth (Genesis 5:3, 6-8) Seth means “put” or “appointed” or "Substitute" Enosh (Genesis 5:6, 9-11) Enosh mean a " mortal man" Cainan (Genesis 5:9, 12-14) Cainan means dwelling place Mahalalel (Genesis 5:12, 15-18) Mahalalel means "praise God or God be praised" Jared (Genesis 5:15, 18-20) Jared means "descend" Enoch (Genesis 5:18, 21-24) Enoch means "to initiate or discipline:-dedicate, train up" Methuselah (Genesis 5:21, 25-27) Methuselah means" [his] death will send away, cast out. Lamech (Genesis 5: 25, 28-31) Lamech means " to be low, depressed or grow poor or impoverished" Noah (Genesis 5:28-29) Noah’s name means "comfort or rest" When putting the meaning of these names in a Phrase this is how it reads. Man [is] appointed a mortal man [in his] dwelling place. Praise God, [He] descended to discipline and train-up. [His] death will send away, cast out, the depressed, the despairing. The One [Jesus] will comfort us and give us rest. Using the meaning of the names of the sons of God in Genesis 5 point us to Son of God who is Jesus. Genesis 5 is also and offspring list, when a person reads Genesis 6:1-4 is talking about sons of God and taking wives and having offspring (bore children in verse 4). The angel view redefines marriage and goes against Gods institution of marriage. Woman came from man so it is fitting that they marry and procreate. The Angel view also goes against Gods order for creation each kind produces after its own kind. Basically Genesis 6 has become a marriage debate, are sons of God angels or are they human that took wives. I am very confident the sons of God are HUMAN. Interesting as well that Genesis 6:1-4 is talking about sons of God and taking wives and having offspring (bore children in verse 4) is mentioned after Genesis 5. Genesis 5 is an Offspring list. The Genealogy of Jesus Christ. Also with this Genesis 5 you find this same list in Luke 3:36-38, which is a bloodline to Jesus. Angels do no have any Genealogy (blood line) and God in His written word would not have sons of God as angels, because God does not Justify an angel by Faith.
I am following your channel very carefully. This is one of several controversial topics of the Bible. What do you have to say about the race of the giants found in the Bible?
+Joyce Mbogo Though the old KJV translated this term as "giants," it does not actually have that meaning in Hebrew. It literally means "fallen ones." On the other hand, there is a similar term that is used later in the Old Testament, the Rephaim, that is borrowed from Ugaritic literature and describes large people. One ought to remember that both in the past and even today, all people are not the same height. A number of years ago, my wife and I had the opportunity to visit the Yucatan where we met descendants of the Mayans. Their men were the same height as my wife (she stands a 5'4") and she felt as though she was a giant among them. Since the Nephalim here in Genesis 6 were destroyed in the Flood, they bear no connection to the later reference to Nephalim who were in Canaan (Numbers 13:33).
I sincerely believe the sons of God were from seth's line. It follows the whole theme of the Word of God. Pagan women from cains line were taken in marriage by believers from Seth's line and The Believers started to go after false pagan gods. Thus these men fell from the faith and the result was sins of violence and many being turned to a Reprobate mind due to abandoning the 1 True God from the influence of pagan women. We see later on in Genesis Isaac , Jacob being ordered to marry from their people and not the foreign women. We see king Solomons example where once he married fair pagan women he turned from God and worshipped false gods. See the effect it had on Israel after that. Also we come to 1st Corinthians 7 where Paul orders Christians that are eligible to marry are ordered to marry within the faith. This theme is followed through the whole bible. I personally believe the theory of the book of enoch is very dangerous. It leads to people spending 100s of dollars on UFO books , books by Tom Horn and Steve Quayle and it's also a million dollar money grabber. I believe from much research that the book of enoch theory came from Jewish fables that Paul warned to stay away from. I'm highly aware that certain early church fathers believed it but there were those that didnt either. Just because certain early church fathers believed it from the 1st few centuries doesn't validate the angel theory. The early church fathers also believed in the pagan legend of the Phoenix. A bird that came back to life. These men were not infallible. I believe that the sons of seth line is played out through the whole Bible. I've also seen many that believe the book of enoch theory start to believe in the serpent seed doctrine and many other harmful gnostic doctrines.
@@JesusisLord1130 "Undisputed," I am going to have to "dispute" you a little, here. I will not go INTO this--just gonna' bring ONE simple point: Scripture says, "they...(the Nephilim) were IN THE EARTH in those days...and AFTERWARD..." Brother, do you understand CONTEXT pretty well? Well, the "context" here is that, these "Angels," not humans, were "On the earth," in those ancient days. Why, if these were just MEN, would it SAY that? Would it not be a "NO-BRAINER" if they were just men? If they were only men--of COURSE they would be ON/IN the earth, not just in THAT time PERIOD--but ALWAYS! No. These were "Angels" that "LEFT THEIR FIRST ESTATE.." God bless you, good brother.
Part 2 Of course since man has fallen short of the glory (fallen state) of God that is why the word nephilim is used. The word Nephilim, a Hebrew word meaning 'those who have fallen' or 'the fallen ones. Strong's Concordance for Nephilim (Hebrew) is H5303 and is derived from the word Nephal is H5307. Nephal is to fall, lie or cast down. Naphal is a Hebrew word.Using the Hebrew word Naphal which you get the Hebrew word Nephilim. Job also is a Patriarch Job 1: 20 "Then Job arose, tore his robe, and shaved his head; and he FELL to the ground and worshiped." The word "FELL" in Job 1: 20 when translated to Hebrew is the word "Naphal". Hebrew use is the Nephilim would fall (Naphal) to the ground like Job 1: 20 mentions, so it would be in a state of worship, probably on their knees while presenting the animal sacrifice. Romans 3:23 "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God," Also what can be applied to the Nephilim, mankind is in a fallen from the glory of God. Since the word Nephilim comes from the word Nephal is to fall, lie or cast down. The word would also mean the sinful condition of a fallen state as well, along with falling to the ground in worship and prayer before a Holy God, while presenting the animal sacrifice for the payment for sins, done by the head of the household (Patriarch). The fall of man happened in Genesis 3, of course this is when sin and trangression against a Holy God corrupted mankind.....a fallen condition. The word nephilim to put it in simple terms just means fallen from God's Glory, cast down, fallen ones. The word nephilim in the In Genesis 6: 4 the English/Greek word "giants" is used and in Hebrew it would be "nephilim". It is plural use of the words (giants/nephilim), not singular use of the words (giants/nephilim). In verse 3 God said about man that his days shall be 120 years. Years is a theme in Genesis 5 the previous chapter. Years is emphasized over and over in Genesis 5 and is mentioned again in Genesis 6:3. In Genesis 6:4 the word Giants (Greek) is used. The word "giant" (Greek) is primarily referring to YEARS. Methuselah lived 969 years (Genesis 5 27) God NEVER mentions height in Genesis 6:3. Although........Height or Stature may have existed since they lived such long lives. Adam up until Noah and the people of those days may have been between 6 feet too 10 feet tall, but the text does not say. Goliath in the Bible was 9 feet 6 inches tall found in 1 Samuel 17-4. Also do not rule out 120 years until the judgement of the flood, that also can be applied. Genesis 6: 1-4 "Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. 3 And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4 There were giants (nephilim) on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. When a person reads Genesis 6 1-4 the sons of God makes more sense with the Patriarchs of Genesis 5, they would also produce other 'Fallen ones" (Giants/Nephilim)>>>>Fallen from Gods' Glory into sin, but had sin atoned for because of the animal sacrifices which is a foreshadowing of Jesus and His Sacrifice.....The sons of God are in a covenent relationship with God because of the sacrifice with shed blood. People that teach angels as sons of God are opposing Jesus, His sacrifice and the New Covenant with shed blood in New Testament and the Old Covenant with animals (lambs...ect.) foreshadoiwng and pointing to the sacrifice of Jesus the Lamb of God. Luke 22:20 "And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood." Hebrews 8 :13 "In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away." In the Old Testament the covenant was with the blood of animals for the sons of God (Patriarchs/nation of Israel) in an Adopted sense, in the New Testament the New Covenant is in the Blood of Jesus he poured out on the Cross for the sons of God in an Adopted sense. Angelic spiritual beings cannot be the sons of God. This view comes from old Jewish beleifs, which are man centered beleifs and are influenced by pagan mythogy. The Jews never had the thought of a Second Adam (Jesus), let alone that God had a Son. When a person views Genesis 5 as the "sons of God" this is more in CONTEXT, because when scripture was first written there was no verse breaks or chapter breaks.
These verses prove that the sons of God in the Old Testament are not human. To have a testament, you need to have the death of the tester. To have a prophecy fulfilled, the words of the prophecy must be spoken first. Finally, if only humans are sons of God, then how does that make us equal to angels? Especially since before Christ's ascension humans were lower than angels. Hebrews 9:16-17 Joel 2:28-32 Luke 20:36 Revelation 22:8-9 Hebrews 2:9
Angels are spirit beings (Hebrews 1:7, 14), Jesus Himself said that “spirits do not have flesh and bones” (Luke 24:39). Jesus also said that “angels neither marry, nor are given in marriage” (Luke 20:34-36; Matthew 22:29-30; Mark 12:24-25). In order for angels to reproduce they must have flesh and DNA, and DNA is an organic material that is found in flesh and bones. Pay attention to what is taking place in the Book of Genesis CHAPTERS 1-6. Yes, angels are referred to as the “sons of God” in Job 1:6; Job 2:1, & Job 38:7 because God is their “Father” through creation. Does that mean that the sons of God in Genesis 6 are also angels because they are in the Book of Job? NO! Were looking at verses in Genesis, NOT the Book of Job. Try not to interpret Genesis 6:1-4 with other books in the Bible. Stick with just the Book you are reading and studying. Pay attention to the context. Adam is also a “son of God”, created by God, made in the image of God (Genesis 1:26; Genesis 5:1-3). Adam walked and talked with God (Genesis 3:8-10). Genesis chapter 3 tells about the fall of man. Genesis chapter 4 gives the story of Cain and Abel and follows with the genealogical descent from Cain to Lamech. Then in Genesis 4:26, Scripture says, beginning with Seth “then began men to call upon the name of the LORD". Genesis Chapter 5 is called “the book of the genealogy of Adam”, it starts with God’s creation of Adam and Adam’s line continued through Noah. You can see thus far, just using the Book of Genesis that some men looked to God and some men did not. In Genesis Chapter 6, we see “the sons of God” (men who called upon the name of the LORD) intermarrying with “the daughters of men” (ungodly women). God says in Genesis 6:3, “My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh:”. [Remember, man is flesh, and angels are spirit beings] And in Genesis 6:7, “I will destroy man [flesh, not hybrids, not spirit beings] whom I have created from the face of the earth;”. The giants of Genesis 6:4 were human descendants of Adam and Eve, not hybrids ( Acts 17:26; Genesis 2:23; Genesis 3:20). Giants again descended from Ham, but that's another Bible Study. In conclusion, all living Earthly things have the same DNA ingredients in them. Angels are not made of the same ingredients. God created the heavens and the Earth...two separate entities with separate characteristics. DNA is earthy.
Genesis 6:1-2 When mankind began to multiply on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of mankind were beautiful and they took any they chose as wives for themselves. Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth both in those days and afterward, when the sons of God came to the daughters of mankind, who bore children to them. They were powerful men of old, the famous men. Torah Genesis 6:1-2 When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. Torah Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days-and also afterward-when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown. Tanakh Genesis 6:1-2 When men began to increase on earth and daughters were born to them, the divine beings saw how beautiful the daughters of men were and took wives from among those that pleased them. Tanakh Genesis 6:4 It was then, and later too, that the Nephilim appeared on earth-when the divine beings cohabited with the daughters of men, who bore them offspring. They were the heroes of old, the men of renown. DSS 1Q23 Frags. 9+14+15 [...] they knew of the se[crets of...] [...si]n was great in the earth [...] [...] and they killed ma[ny...] [...they begat] giants [...] DSS 4Q531 Frag. 1 [...] they defiled [...] [...they begot] giants and monsters [...] [...] they begot and, behold, a[ll the earth was corrupted...] [...] with its blood and by the hand of [...] [giants] which did not suffice for them and [...] [...] and they were seeking to devour many [...] [...] [...] the monsters [destro]yed it. Septuagint Job 1:6 And it came to pass on a day, that behold, the angels of God came to stand before the Lord, and the devil came with them. Septuagint Job 2:1 And it came to pass on a certain day, that the angels of God came to stand before the Lord, and the devil came among them to stand before the Lord. Septuagint Job 38:7 When the stars were made, all my angels praised me with a loud voice. Job 38:7 While the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy? Tanakh Job 1:6 One day the divine beings presented themselves before the LORD, and the Adversary came along with them. Tanakh Job 2:1 One day the divine beings presented themselves before the LORD. The Adversary came along with them to present himself before the LORD. Tanakh Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together and all the divine beings shouted for joy? DSS Job 38:7 When the stars of morning shine together, and all the angels of God cry out together, Luke 20:36 "For they can no longer die, because they are like angels and are children of God" 1 Peter 3:18-20 For Christ also suffered for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring you to God. He was put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, in which he also went and made proclamation to the spirits in prison who in the past were disobedient, when God patiently waited in the days of Noah while the ark was being prepared. In it a few-that is, eight people-were saved through water. 2 Peter 2:4-6 For if God didn't spare the angels who sinned but cast them into hell and delivered them in chains of utter darkness, to be kept for judgment, and if he didn't spare the ancient world, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others, when he brought the flood on the world of the ungodly, and if he reduced the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes and condemned them to extinction, making them an example of what is coming to the ungodly, Jude 6 And the angels who did not keep their own position but abandoned their proper dwelling, He has kept in eternal chains in deep darkness for the judgement of the Great Day.
@EternalLifeNews I agree to pretty much all of this except to the affirmation that "sons of God" are angels in the Book of Job, "because God is their “Father” through creation" that is an assumption nowhere in the book of Job or the bible it says that, in fact Hebrews 1:5 shows that no angel is ever called son of God, you could say well this is talking about Jesus which is true, but we humans who accept the Christ are begotten of God and we are also called sons of God (1 Peter 1:3 , James 1:18) but no angel Nowhere is ever called son of God there is no scripture to support this instead there one that denies it . In the other hand Luke 3:38 show Adam as son of God in the genealogy, it shows Adam for lack of better words has having the title of son of God applied twice. One for been created right out of the hand of God and second for believing in the future messiah either way this title is only given to men. Genesis 6 is easy to understand is obviously talking about humans not hybrids, by the way humans where taller back then our preflood ancestors DNA was better how else did they get to live over 900 years? it is obvious the human body back then was more than what it is in today standards. The real question is who are the sons of God in the book of Job 1:6 and 2:1, and not only that what is Satan doing back in Heaven wasn’t he kicked out and we know he was how did he get back in? and Job 38:7 is talking about day one of creation how can stars sing, weren’t stars created in day four? but this is part of another Bible study.
Also doesn’t the Bible say something about the reason there is marriage because of the cause of fornication. I forgot what the text was, but maybe in the corrupt days of Noah there was a lot of immorality.
Here my thoughts in 2 parts, I do not beleive in the angel view. Part 1 This Genealogy line comes from Genesis 5 who are the “sons of God”. Another Point of the sons of God and the bloodline to Jesus is found in Luke 3. Family of Adam (Genesis and Luke Account) God created Adam, so God was Adam’s father 1. Luke 3: 38 God created Adam (Luke writes son of God) 1. Genesis 5: 3 Adam begot Seth 2. Luke 3: 38 Adam’s son is Seth 2. Genesis 5: 6 Seth begot Enosh 3. Luke 3: 38 Seth’s son is Enos (Enosh) 3. Genesis 5: 9 Enosh begot Cainan 4. Luke 3: 38 & 37 Enos’s (Enosh) son is Cainan 4. Genesis 5: 12 Cainan begot Mahalaleel 5. Luke 3: 37 Cainan’s son is Mahalaleel 5. Genesis 5: 15 Mahaleel begot Jared 6. Luke 3: 37 Mahalaleel’s son is Jared 6. Genesis 5: 18 Jared begot Enoch 7. Luke 3: 37 Jared’s son is Enoch 7. Genesis 5: 21 Enoch begot Methuselah 8. Luke 3: 37 Enoch’s son is Methuselah 8. Genesis 5: 25 Methuselah begot Lamech 9. Luke 3: 37 & 36 Methuselah’s son is Lamech 9. Genesis 5: 28,29 Lamech begot Noah 10. Luke 3: 36 Lamech’s son is Noah Genesis 5: 32 Noah begot Shem, Ham and Japheth 11. Luke 3: 36 Noah’s son is Shem Luke’s Account in reverse (matches Genesis) Note in Luke 3: 23 Joseph is the father of Jesus. (Adopted son) in a similar manner like Adam’s father is God who created him. These two lists are the “sons of God”. The "sons of God" are also referred to as "Patriarchs" in scripture. Patriarchs/sons of God presented animal sacrifices unto the Lord God. Noah was well aware of these sacrifices. Genesis 8: 20 “Then Noah built an altar to the LORD, and took of every clean animal and of every clean bird, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.” The only way Noah would have known about an burnt offering is from his father (Lamech). These animal sacrifices were passed down from father to son. Genesis 3: 21 "The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. Here God probably performed the first animal sacrifice when He made tunics of skin. The first sacrifice for sinful man (Adam and Eve). In Jesus the last sacrifice for sinful man at the Cross. Genesis 4 3-5 And in the process of time it came to pass that Cain brought an offering of the fruit of the ground to the Lord. 4 Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat. And the Lord respected Abel and his offering, 5 but He did not respect Cain and his offering. And Cain was very angry, and his countenance fell. Hebrews 11:4 "By faith Abel offered to God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, through which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts; and through it he being dead still speaks." NOTICE Abel was "Righteous" and it is by "Faith" also it was an animal sacrifice. How did Cain and Abel know to present offerings unto the Lord God????? Scripture does not say they were commanded to give an offering. The only way is from Genesis 3:21 when God made the tunics of skin. Genesis 4: 26 And as for Seth, to him also a son was born; and he named him Enosh. Then men began to call on the name of the Lord. Calling on the Name of the Lord was presenting an animal sacrifice unto God. Seth would be a "Adopted" son of God. Then of course than a person can include Noah's offering found in Genesis 8:20. Noah also would be a "Adopted" son of God. The sons of God are Adopted in both OT and NT Satan uses the same tactics today with the feminist movement, which is Anti Patriarchal. Angels as sons of God DENIES the Patriachs that are mentioned in Genesis 5 who are the sons of God. The angel view as sons of God is Anti Patriarchal. The Lord God is in a "Covenant" Relationship with mankind, not angels. The "Covenant" Relationship has to due with animal sacrifices/burnt offerings, because death of the sacrifice and the shed blood is presented to the Lord God. No where in scripture did any angel present a death of a sacrifice and shed blood to the Lord God. Even the Jews had a "day of Atonement". When bringing the animal sacrifices into the picture, it makes more sense the sons of God are human or were at one time human. The Lord God Adopts the sons of God, because of their faith and atonement. God has always used the animal sacrifice/burnt offerings/Alter with the Patriarchs and the Jews. Leviticus 17 11 "11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. The OT sons of God were predistanated to Jesus awaiting His sacrifice on the Cross, the final payment for sin. The body DIES (flesh), the body is sentenced to death because of Adam. God saves the "soul", but not the flesh, that is why the sons of God in the OT were once human (Patriarchs) and why Genesis 5 are the sons of God. Geneis 5 also shows being born and death repeatedly Looking at the Genealogy line what is mentioned is TWO Adam's, the first and Last Adam. The First Adam who is of obviously is Adam the first man created from the earth. Romans 3 23 " for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God". The First man (Adam) ALL of humanity has fallen short of the glory of God. Mankind has a sin nature because of the First man (Adam) and death because of the First man Adam. Romans 5 12-14 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned- 13 for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. 14 Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come. Even Genesis 5 since the genealogy list is associated with the FIRST man (Adam) they ALL die, the passages say how long each Patriarch lived, Methuselah lived 969 years (Genesis 5 27). Reason why Moses uses sons of God in Genesis 6 is because the Genealogy line of Genesis 5 is ASSOCIATED with Jesus the Son of God, the SECOND Adam or to say the LAST Adam. Jesus is also referred to as the son of man. The Genealogy line in Luke 3 proves the sons of God mentioned in Genesis 6 associaton with Jesus as well as the animal sacrifices and shed blood covenant relationship with the Cross and the sacrifice Jesus made with His shed blood.
Did you not know, "Monica," that angels can take up human form when here on earth--including every single detail? There was a choice that God gave them--remain "Spirit" in their essence--which means--NO PHYSICAL CONTACT with humans, or, become as THEY, and therefore, be subject to aging, and dying as a human being. There is MUCH we do not KNOW about spiritual realities, so, do not be so quick to "snicker" about these things. God bless you.
There will be no procreation in heaven and angels don’t marry or procreate. They are not the same kind as men that God created per God’s word which is totally true and powerful and sovereign.
KJV is pretty good when it comes to the Old Testament; it is a bit less precise when it comes to the New Testament. I have discussed some of the modern English translations here: ruclips.net/video/PqgXKMmG4zs/видео.html
I believe that the "sons of God" are indeed angels. Three reasons: (1) Enoch spoke of this in his book. The apostle Paul says in Hebrews 11:5...Enoch was translated that he should not see death.......for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased Yehovah. I suspect liars are not pleasing to God, for all liars will be cast into eternal fire; therefore Enoch was not making this up in the Book of Enoch. Therefore, one must conclude that Enoch was telling the truth. (2) Again, in Heb. 13:2 Paul reminds us "to not to forget to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unaware." Therefore one can conclude angels can have the form of humans. (3) Jude 7 states "in like manner" giving themselves over to fornication and going after strange flesh", one can conclude he is referencing the sons of God in Genesis 6. At least I can 😄
You are assuing that Enoch indeed wrote the so-called Book of Enoch. If he had actually done so, then we should have expected that the Jews would have included it in the books they understood to be the Scriptures. They did not. That does not mean this interepretation is in error, but I would not lean upon the Book of Enoch as my primary sources of evidence. For a lot more on the Book of Enoch, see my lecture on this topic at ruclips.net/video/9UZUQoBZfRo/видео.html
@@DrJohnStevenson Yeshua set it up that each kind would reproduce its own kind. To me that means that humans don't create giants. However, I believe that humans and angels could create this offspring. Regardless of which way I believe, it doesn't matter. My salvation is not determined by me believing or not believing that the "sons of God" are angels.
"Son of God" has a strong theme through Scripture as being "direct creation of God". In the OT of the angels (Genesis, Job, off-hand ref on psalms, and Jesus' coronation Psalm ref to God making him King). NT picks this up too, Luke ref to Adam as "Son of God", John refs to NT believers recieving Christ as "having right to be sons of God... born from above (ie, again)." This is why Jesus is the last Adam, not as one created as Adam, but as one begotten from the bosom of the eternal God. Scripture seems pretty clear thematically when NT writers seen in their interpretation of the OT.
No, it simple means "big guy," much like our English word giant. That does not have to be someone who is unearthly. I know a few guys who tower over me and they could be classified as something of a giant to me. The Greek term is used in the Septuagint in a number of places: Numbers 13:33 "There also we saw the GIGANTES and we became like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight." (Num 13:33 LXX). Deuteronomy 1:28 'Where can we go up? Our brethren have made our hearts melt, saying, "The people are bigger and taller than we; the cities are large and fortified to heaven. And besides, we saw the sons of the GIGANAS there."' (Deu 1:28 LXX). Proverbs 21:16 A man who wanders from the way of understanding will rest in the assembly of the GIGANTAS. (Pro 21:16 LXX) . Indeed, the term is used a number of times in Isaiah merely to speak of mighty warriors.
The original Greek word was built from Gaia (earth). It was used to describe those who were half divine and half from earth. Later on, it was more closely associated with what we mean as giants. It was also used in the 5th-6th century BC to mean "sons of the earth".
Wake up people ! ! ! ! Yes, there were giant's. Genesis 6:4 Yes, there were fallen angels with Satan~ "Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works." 2 Corinthians 11: 15 Including Satan. (Isaiah 14:12~ How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! " If you notice here it also says, "...which did weaken the nations..." Now take into account Cain going off to the land of Nod ~ Genesis 4:16~ After the fall of Satan when he fell, "weakened the nations." WHAT NATIONS? If it was just himself, and Adam and Eve? Satan had already fallen, weakened nations before Eve met him in the Garden of Eden. Sounds clear to me civilizations/nations already existed before Adam, and Eve which gave Cain a place for go, find a wife. Why else would Cain say. "... that everyone that findeth me shall slay me."? Genesis 4: 14 How else could Cain build a city named after his first born "Enoch" by himself ? Genesis 4 : 17 The fact it says, "...weakened the nations. ." proves many generations had to have past ( Before Adam And Eve ) to produce so many people to have numerous nations. The fallen angels are not, " the sons of God." But the sons of/ministers for, the son of the "morning" = Lucifer. ADAM~. {Son of God} 》 SETH, 》 on 》".... are the SONS OF GOD.... ITS A D.N.A. THING "Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son Adam, which was the son of God. " Luke 3: 38 This is the evolution of man. ...... We all evolve, this is proven just from the age of 1, into your grumpy old fart years. With age. ... Comes Wisdom. GOD SAYS. .... " Seek her out, "Wisdom ". Yes .... there were the cavemen BEFORE ADAM!!!! NOW... read. Spiritually listen, and discern. Put religion in the crapper, and flush. The Bible was made a religious book, by the doctrines, and Commandments of men " The Bible was made a book of knowledge and wisdom, for ALL who knock, and in the spirit seek Him out.... not in the flesh, sitting in a church pew paying tithes. Why else would California be banning it. God said, "Let "US" create male and female in "OUR" image and He blessed them to multiply the earth ~Genesis 1: 28 ~ AND right after He Blessed them, HE GIVES THEM A TASK.... SPEAKING TO THEM A TASK ~BE FRUITFUL.... (Not Adam and Eve ), and THEN... "ALL: the host of the heavens and the earth were finished. Genesis 2 : 1 Adam was created, after God rested, ~ Genesis 2: 7~ to be Gods personal gardener (to dress and keep it ) Genesis 2 :15 Eve was cursed when it comes to multiply the earth. "I will GREATLY MULTIPLY THY SORROW. .." Genesis 3:16 Eve was the "mother of all living" through Christ Jesus ( Although the works was finished from the foundation of the world ) Hebrews 4:3 ~ NOT the mother of the entire human race. WHEN Cain took to himself a wife, it was from the ("women~daughters of men"~ cavemen) who were born before Adam (Son of God) and Eve. (NO INCEST PEOPLE ) Then when Seth came along, THEN. ... (The sons of "God"~Adam~ was the "son of God" Luke 3: 38...which was the son of God. " ~ and Seth and his brothers) ~ Genesis 6: 2~ took to themselves wives, the daughters of "MEN"- same place~women, Cain took his wife from. GOT IT PEOPLE? SIMPLE ISN'T IT. ... WHY READ "MORE" into a SIMPLE STORY? "For the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2:14" AND for all you evolution -ist..... "All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of the beast, another of fishes, and another of birds." I Corintians 15:39 The findings of the such as " Lucy" one of the many daughters of men. Genesis 6 : 2 For all you aliens lovers. .. " "... sons of the alien.... " Isaiah 61: 5 Simple. .... as it gets. ~Herdsman III OLDIII ~ "I form the light, and create darkness : I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
& also: in the bible geneologies it always says ..... son of ..... ..... son of ..... Adam is the only one given the title Adam son of G-d every other man after him was called son of... & his fathers name.
A prophet of God, the prophesied return of Elijah, speaks: GOD'S ANGELS CANNOT AND DO NOT "FALL." And if you think angels can fall, "You do err, not knowing Scriptures nor the power of God." Furthermore, absolutely all intelligent beings in this Universe are the "sons of God, " be they from this planet or another. ("Is it not written in your law, 'I have said ye are gods'?" "I have said ye are gods and all of you are children of the Most High.") BUT MOST ARE UNAWARE OF THIS FACT. And when the Bible speaks of "the sons of God" it is simply referring to beings who have advanced far enough spiritually that they ARE fully aware of what they are. And the "sons of God" mating with the "daughters of men" were spiritually- advanced beings from elsewhere that were "backsliding," and mated with less spiritually-advanced Earth women. But know this: absolutely EVERYTHING is part of God's perfect plan, without exception. (I don't receive RUclips comment notifications, but those who seek can easily find how to contact me.)
Genesis 6:1-2 When mankind began to multiply on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of mankind were beautiful and they took any they chose as wives for themselves. Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth both in those days and afterward, when the sons of God came to the daughters of mankind, who bore children to them. They were powerful men of old, the famous men. Torah Genesis 6:1-2 When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. Torah Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days-and also afterward-when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown. Tanakh Genesis 6:1-2 When men began to increase on earth and daughters were born to them, the divine beings saw how beautiful the daughters of men were and took wives from among those that pleased them. Tanakh Genesis 6:4 It was then, and later too, that the Nephilim appeared on earth-when the divine beings cohabited with the daughters of men, who bore them offspring. They were the heroes of old, the men of renown. DSS 1Q23 Frags. 9+14+15 [...] they knew of the se[crets of...] [...si]n was great in the earth [...] [...] and they killed ma[ny...] [...they begat] giants [...] DSS 4Q531 Frag. 1 [...] they defiled [...] [...they begot] giants and monsters [...] [...] they begot and, behold, a[ll the earth was corrupted...] [...] with its blood and by the hand of [...] [giants] which did not suffice for them and [...] [...] and they were seeking to devour many [...] [...] [...] the monsters [destro]yed it. Septuagint Job 1:6 And it came to pass on a day, that behold, the angels of God came to stand before the Lord, and the devil came with them. Septuagint Job 2:1 And it came to pass on a certain day, that the angels of God came to stand before the Lord, and the devil came among them to stand before the Lord. Septuagint Job 38:7 When the stars were made, all my angels praised me with a loud voice. Job 38:7 While the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy? Tanakh Job 1:6 One day the divine beings presented themselves before the LORD, and the Adversary came along with them. Tanakh Job 2:1 One day the divine beings presented themselves before the LORD. The Adversary came along with them to present himself before the LORD. Tanakh Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together and all the divine beings shouted for joy? DSS Job 38:7 When the stars of morning shine together, and all the angels of God cry out together, Luke 20:36 "For they can no longer die, because they are like angels and are children of God" 1 Peter 3:18-20 For Christ also suffered for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring you to God. He was put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, in which he also went and made proclamation to the spirits in prison who in the past were disobedient, when God patiently waited in the days of Noah while the ark was being prepared. In it a few-that is, eight people-were saved through water. 2 Peter 2:4-6 For if God didn't spare the angels who sinned but cast them into hell and delivered them in chains of utter darkness, to be kept for judgment, and if he didn't spare the ancient world, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others, when he brought the flood on the world of the ungodly, and if he reduced the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes and condemned them to extinction, making them an example of what is coming to the ungodly, Jude 6 And the angels who did not keep their own position but abandoned their proper dwelling, He has kept in eternal chains in deep darkness for the judgement of the Great Day. Plus Revelation talks about Satan and his angels. And then you have demons mentioned (Satan's angels), then you have Satan himself.
Angels were never referred to as "sons of God" Hebrews 1:5. Angels do not have a Father / son relationship.... they are spiritual created beings. Do not take a verse and create a whole new doctrine.... one of demons in this case. The Bible admonishes that one that adds to Scripture will be plagued. Rev 22:18
You might be right. But then you are going to have to explain who were the sons of God in the first two chapters of Job as well as who were the sons of God who seem to be present at the creation in Job 38:7. As to the admonition about adding to Scripture, I was merely sharing the different interpretations of a particular passage and giving the reasons why each one is held. I don't think that I actually endorsed one over the other.
@@DrJohnStevenson Job is easy. We stick with Scripture.... not the fake book of Enoch... we do not twist to create our own doctrine. Job is not a creation book. People loose context. Here is a good one. www.refuteit.com/the-sons-of-god-are-not-angels.html
I don't know why you are bringing up the book of Enoch except that it sets forth one of the early interpretations of Genesis 6. I certainly would not be basing any Biblical interpretation on the Book of Enoch. On the other hand, there is a quote from this book found in the New Testament Book of Jude. That does not make the Book of Enoch authoritative as even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
@@DrJohnStevenson Jude does not quote the book... of Enoch??? I am referring to the book of enoch because It is what the "nephilim" promoters use to enforce their theory.. If not for you... I hope the readers see the deception. There is a satanic agenda behind the "sons of god" theory.. I left the links. Read it or leave it..
Brother Steve, This is a very good interpretation of scripture. Thank you
They just answered their own question, the angels “In Heaven” don’t marry doesn’t say anything about earth. And Jesus was talking about the resurrection when he referenced that scripture.
Excellent application of the Word to Historical and. Current times.
Part 2) In Genesis 5 is the genealogy of Adam. The list starts with Adam and ends with Noah. This is a list of father and son. The list also shows how long each man lived. They all lived a GIANT life. Take Methuselah for example. Methuselah lived 969 years and then he died found in Genesis 5:27. Methuselah in Genesis 5:25 begot Lamech at the age of 187. The age Methuselah begot a son at 187 years is TOTALLY remarkable in today’s standards of becoming a parent, it does not happen in today’s world. Methuselah is the most renowned person in scripture because of his old age of 969.
This is also a list of fallen men, because of sin and the fall of man in Genesis 3. The Hebrew word “Nephilim” means fallen ones, sometimes translated giant because the Greek word for nephilim is gigantes. Another Hebrew word naphal means "to fall". This is where the word nephilim comes from. This is another one of Satan’s lies. First Satan replaces fallen men with fallen angels. Secondly what Satan does is that he ignores the age of these men and puts height in the place of age. Thirdly which is Key for his Lie, is that he makes people believe that the “sons of God” are angels, when the “sons of God” are human. Reason why is because of the burnt offerings that started with Abel and ended with Noah. But Abel was murdered, so Seth was next in line after Adam. That leads us to Genesis 5 which lists the “sons of God”.
Noah is the only person on the list that it is recorded in scripture that has given a burnt offering directed to God. That is found in Genesis 8:20 and 21. “Then Noah built an altar to the LORD, and took of every clean animal and of every clean bird, and offered burnt offerings on the altar. 21 And the LORD smelled a soothing aroma. Then the LORD said in His heart, “I will never again curse the ground for man’s sake, although the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth; nor will I again destroy every living thing as I have done.”
How would have Noah known what a burnt offering is? The only answer is that he would have learned that from his earthly father. Noah’s father was Lamech. Genesis 5: 28 and 29 “Lamech lived one hundred and eighty-two years, and had a son. And he called his name Noah, saying, “This one will comfort us concerning our work and the toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD has cursed.”
Genesis 5 is the list of men who probably gave burnt offerings to God and worshiped God with a sacrifice. Fallen angels do not worship God and they do not present themselves with a burnt offering.
Noah and his sons are mentioned in Genesis 5:32 right before Genesis 6:2 and 4 where the title “sons of God” are mentioned in scripture. Noah and Job each gave a burnt offering directed to God and their names appear right before the title “sons of God” comes up in scripture.
Another verse people us is Genesis 3:15. Gen. 3:15 “And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel.” This verse the Seed of the woman is Jesus (Truth). Satan’s seed is the seed of sin (Lies). Jesus also is the seed of righteousness, where Satan’s seed is unrighteous. Genesis 3 is about the fall of man. Satan is the only fallen angel mentioned.
Jesus calls Satan the father of Lies in John 8:44 “You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.” Jesus is pretty much saying Satan is Absolute LIE. When Jesus would be ABSOLUTE TRUTH.
Here in John 8 Jesus is rebuking His accusers. Jesus’s discussion with the accusers is about Abraham’s seed and Satan’s seed. Abraham’s seed is Israel, while Satan’s seed is Lies. Jesus actually says what Satan’s seed is. Satan's seed is he is the "father of Lies". It is NOT rebellious/fallen angels mixing in with human DNA or Satan having sex with Eve. Satan’s seed is LIES that mixes into the human mind.
In Genesis Genesis 3:4 “ Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die.” In this verse Satan is clearly lying to the women. He attacks her mind, making the woman doubt. This is Satan’s first Lie.
God is talking to the man in Genesis 2:17 “ but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.” In this verse God is giving a warning and telling the truth. God said “you shall surely die.”
Comparing Genesis 2:17 and Genesis 3:4 you can see how the exchange of the Truth of God for a Lie. This is how Satan works in the world. He creates Lies. That is his seed.
Romans 1:25 says “who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever.” Satan gets worship and served by all the Lies he puts into the minds and hearts of people. Fallen angels being the “sons of God” mentioned in Genesis 6 and in the book Job would be a lie. Burnt offerings debunk that lie of Satan.
Hence forth Ephesians 6:12 “For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.” This verse clearly shows Satan’s celestial hierarchy.
With Jesus the Truth will set you free (John 8:32), while Satan’s Lies will keep you captive. AGAIN, fallen/rebellious angels or Satan mixing in with human DNA is a Lie or even fallen/rebellious angels and Satan procreating with women is a LIE. Demons also promote Satan’s lies as well.
Satan also promotes his lies with the book of Enoch and other non biblical books. The book of Enoch is not Authoritative scripture or is inspired by God. The book was not even recognized by the Jews. Many are like Rome and have to add to scripture to make something sound true when it is not true. So much for Sola-Scripture.
Just and end Note on burnt offerings. Burnt offerings also show God's Judgement on man.
Who are the Sons of God in Genesis 6 before the flood of Noah?
Sons of God (ANGELS) shout before the world began - Adam man came 6 days later.
Job 38:4 - Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
Job 38:5 - Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Job 38:6 - Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
Job 38:7 - When the morning stars sang together, and all the SONS OF GOD sons of God shouted for joy?
How can the sons of God be men since they were shouting for joy when the earth was created?
Adam man did not come till 6 days AFTER the earth was made.
Adam was a Son of God since he created him -
Angels are SONS of God since God created them and was their Father
Jesus is the only BEGOTTEN SON of GOD -
Believers DO NOT become Sons of God till they are born again of the Holy Spirit only in the new testament
So were all the SONS OF GOD of Genesis 6 the men who were ALL righteous
the DAUGHTERS OF MEN were all women who were ALL wicked and evil
So all the men were godly and the women were evil ?
Really can we believe this: all the men were godly and the women were evil
then the godly men and wicked women got married and believers and unbelievers had children who were GIANTS
so where are these giants today? Playing for the NBA?
2 Samuel 21:20 - And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant.
so see any unbelievers running around with 6 fingers and toes?
then the Lord commanded all the they be killed
1 Chron 20:4 - And it came to pass after this, that there arose WAR WAR WAR at Gezer with the Philistines; at which time Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Sippai, that was of the children of the giant: and they were subdued.
2 Sam 21:18 - And it came to pass after this, that there was again a battle with the Philistines at Gob: then Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Saph, which was of the sons of the giant.
1Ch 20:6 - And yet again there was WAR WAR WAR at Gath, where was a man of great stature, whose fingers and toes were four and twenty, six on each hand, and six on each foot: and he also was the son of the giant.
so God wanted war with the children of the wicked human women who did not believe?
so where are the giants today?
Deuteronomy Chapter 7 [NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT]
1 When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou;
2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, [and] utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:
3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.
Were all the (men) sons of God good holy people and all the daughters (women) of men were evil & wicked? This is what 90+ % of all churches teach today. This does not make any sense to me....How can believers and unbelievers have giants for children?
Why would God destroy the earth in a flood? Why not send evangelists to preach to the unbelievers instead? Unless of course the fallen angels polluted the blood line DNA of the line of humankind or Adam.
Were the sons of God the fallen angels? Is this the origin of the devils or demons?
Think David and Goliath the giant Philistine champion soldier.
If you believe the son's of God were Godly men...
Please explain why Israel was commanded to KILL ALL the CANAANITES and the giant Phillistines (remember Goliath) who were of of the canaanites?
...and the flood of Noah
Zep 2:5
Woe unto the inhabitants of the sea coast, the nation of the Cherethites! the word of the LORD is against you; O Canaan, the land of the Philistines, I will even destroy thee, that there shall be no inhabitant.
So please explain, with a wealth of Bible knowledge, why God commanded Israel to exterminate all the Canaanites and the giant Phillistines (Goliath and David)
Deu 20:17 - But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee:
Num 21:3 - And the LORD hearkened to the voice of Israel, and delivered up the Canaanites;
and they utterly destroyed them and their cities: and he called the name of the place Hormah.
Why did the Lord not tell Joshua to please send evangelists to tell them the ways of the Lord?
No, instead the Lord commanded they all be killed.
Zec 14:21 - Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts:
and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein:
and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts.
NO QUOTES FROM ENOCH or anything except the Bible
Read again...no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts.
The view of the sethite Adamite sons of God makes the Lord sound like a homicidal maniac.............
Dexter001 so you can say Cain was one of the early murderers. So he was wicked. And later on I imagined that God curses the ground.
@Chaplain Bob Walker B.
I will just respond to Job 38
Job 38
Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:
2 Who is this who darkens counsel
By words without knowledge?
3 Now prepare yourself like a man;
I will question you, and you shall answer Me.
4 “Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?
Tell Me, if you have understanding.
5 Who determined its measurements?
Surely you know!
Or who stretched the line upon it?
6 To what were its foundations fastened?
Or who laid its cornerstone,
7 When the morning stars sang together,
And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
8 “Or who shut in the sea with doors,
When it burst forth and issued from the womb;
9 When I made the clouds its garment,
And thick darkness its swaddling band;
Notice the three "Or Who" in verses 5-8. Verses 5-8 are talking about the creation period of the earth up to the flood. Using the NKJV, the NKJV capitalizes the THREE "Or Who" in verses 5, 6 and 8. Other Bible versions also use "Or Who" as well.
This is all one complete thought because the THREE "Or Who" in verses 5,6 and 8 because the word "OR" is a CONJUNCTION. The conjunctions of the three "Or's" tells us that the time period is from creation of the earth to the flood, that would be the timeline or to say time frame. Conjunctions are used in Hermeneutics to help interpret scripture. Job 38: 1-9 is not just at the time of creation.
People that take the position to the angel view, teach that this is just at the time of creation, which is partly true. The angel view just use verses 1 - 7. The fact is the time period or a time frame is from the time of creation up to imtil the flood In Job 38: 1-9. That is what Job 38:8 is about, the flood of the earth. People that hold to the angel view ignore and leave out the final and third conjunction which is the "Or Who" in Job 38:8 which talks about the flood of the earth in poetic language. Job 38: 8 and 9 are ignored.
Verse 8 says "“Or who shut in the sea with doors, When it burst forth and issued from the womb;" This verse is clearly talking about the flood.
Verse 9 says "When I made the clouds its garment, And thick darkness its swaddling band;" This verse is clearly talking about clouds, rain comes from clouds.
When using the three conjunctions ("OR Who") a person can see the complete thought and time frame or time line that is being illustrated in Job 38:1-9.
Sometime in between the creation of the earth and the flood (ancient world) God laid the cornerstone and the morning stars sang and the sons of God shouted for joy in Response to the cornerstone being laid. The word "cornerstone" is a building term.
The "cornerstone" has a two uses that it is applied to. Because of the Two main sacrifices in the OT and NT.
The first use is a literal cornerstone. The cornerstone is used in building of the Altars with the sacrifices and the offerings that were presented unto God. These Altars where made of stones or rocks. We know this because of Genesis 4: 3-5 "3 And in the process of time it came to pass that Cain brought an offering of the fruit of the ground to the Lord. 4 Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat. And the Lord respected Abel and his offering, 5 but He did not respect Cain and his offering. And Cain was very angry, and his countenance fell."
A question comes up is How did Abel and Cain each know to build an Altar unto the Lord? It is not commanded that Cain and Abel were to each build an Altar. Many suggest that in Genesis 3:21 that Lord God sacrificed an animal on the Altar so Adam and Eve would have a covering of their nakedness. Genesis 3:21 "Also for Adam and his wife the Lord God made tunics of skin, and clothed them."
So a person can only imagine that the Lord God Laid the cornerstone, scripture does not really say.
But when Adam and Eve covered themselves, they covered themselves with Fig Leaves. Genesis 3:7 "Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves coverings."
What is really interesting is that with Adam and Eve they covered themselves with leaves from a plant. Cain's offering was a plant from the ground. Where Abel's offering was a Living Sacrifice with blood shed on the Altar and the covering the Lord God clothed Adam and Eve with was from a Living Animal.
Both the when the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy are in Response to God laying the "cornerstone". Cornerstones were also used in the construction of the Temple, was the First cornerstone laid.
The morning stars sang together are in the heavens in Job 38:7 are probably referring to Celestial. The celestial works of God would refer to what is in the heavens, which are sun, moon, stars and angels.
The sons of God are in Job 38:7 are probably referring to Genesis 5. The Flood of the earth started in Genesis 7.
Summarizing how the Three conjunctions give us the Time Frame or Time Line.
Job 38: 4-6a Creation (Beginning of the Time Frame or Time Line)
Job 38: 6b-7 Cornerstone laid and Response to God laying the Cornerstone (Some time in between Creation and the Flood or to say in the middle of the Time Frame or Time Line )
Job 38: 8-9 The Flood (End of the Time Frame or Time Line)
Job 38 Verses 4-9 are in harmony with Genesis Chapters 1-7.
The second use of the cornerstone is in reference to Jesus. This is more of a prophetic and spiritual use of the cornerstone being laid.
Jesus as the cornerstone verse are found in:
1 Peter 2:7 "Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who are disobedient, “The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief cornerstone,”
Acts 4:11 "This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone."
Ephesians 2:20 "having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone,"
Cornerstone verses are also found in Psalm 118:22, Isaiah 28:16
Sons of God shouted for Joy
Psalm 51:12 "Restore to me the joy of Your salvation,
And uphold me by Your generous Spirit.
Isaiah 12:3 "Therefore with joy you will draw water
From the wells of salvation"
Psalm 35:9 "And my soul shall be joyful in the Lord; It shall rejoice in His salvation."
Psalm 95:1 "Oh come, let us sing to the Lord! Let us shout joyfully to the Rock of our salvation."
The reason sons of God shout for Joy is because they rejoice in Salvation that comes from God. When Jesus was crucified on the Cross for the sins that man commits, our salvation is in Faith in what Jesus did on the Cross, simply put believing the Gospel. The sacrifice Jesus offered on the Cross is perpetual, while the sacrifices on the Altar were only good until the next one was offered.The Altar is a foreshadowing of the Cross.
@ Jonathan Cisneros
AS the Bible records, Yes, I see Cain as the first murderer. Actually the ground was cursed before the Cain murdered Abel
Genesis 3:17 Then to Adam He said, “Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat of it’:
“Cursed is the ground for your sake;
In toil you shall eat of it
All the days of your life.
In Genesis 4:2-8
2 Then she bore again, this time his brother Abel. Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. 3 And in the process of time it came to pass that Cain brought an offering of the fruit of the ground to the Lord. 4 Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat. And the Lord respected Abel and his offering, 5 but He did not respect Cain and his offering. And Cain was very angry, and his countenance fell.
6 So the Lord said to Cain, “Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen? 7 If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it.”
8 Now Cain talked with Abel his brother; and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother and killed him.
When reading the Two offerings presented to God. God accepts Abel's offering because it is a Living sacrifice with shed Blood. Abel's offerings was a young Lamb.
Cains's offering was from the ground. 2 reasons I see why God rejected Cain's offering. First is because his offering on the Altar was from the ground with no blood shed, Not a Living sacrifice. Second is since God cursed the ground He will not accept a offering from the ground, since the ground is cursed.
@ Chaplain Bob Walker B.
You ask "Who are the Sons of God in Genesis 6 before the flood of Noah?"
Simple the sons of God are listed in Genesis 5
“When listening to any of the 3 views, a person NEVER HEARS Like I said in the original comment “When listening to any the 3 views, a person NEVER HEARS Justification by Faith, the Animal blood sacrifices and the Altar of offerings, and Jesus sacrifice on the Cross (Faith in the Gospel) to define the sons of God in the Old Testament.”
, the Animal blood sacrifices and the Altar of offerings, and Jesus sacrifice on the Cross (Faith in the Gospel) to define the sons of God in the Old Testament.”
Watching this video Dr. John Stevenson does touch Justification by Faith and Grace for Noah.
The names listed in Genesis 5 and the meaning of the names in Hebrew.
Adam (Genesis 5:3-5) Adam means “Man”
Seth (Genesis 5:3, 6-8) Seth means “put” or “appointed” or "Substitute"
Enosh (Genesis 5:6, 9-11) Enosh mean a " mortal man"
Cainan (Genesis 5:9, 12-14) Cainan means dwelling place
Mahalalel (Genesis 5:12, 15-18) Mahalalel means "praise God or God be praised"
Jared (Genesis 5:15, 18-20) Jared means "descend"
Enoch (Genesis 5:18, 21-24) Enoch means "to initiate or discipline:-dedicate, train up"
Methuselah (Genesis 5:21, 25-27) Methuselah means" [his] death will send away, cast out.
Lamech (Genesis 5: 25, 28-31) Lamech means " to be low, depressed or grow poor or impoverished"
Noah (Genesis 5:28-29) Noah’s name means "comfort or rest"
When putting the meaning of these names in a Phrase this is how it reads.
Man [is] appointed a mortal man [in his] dwelling place. Praise God, [He] descended to discipline and train-up.
[His] death will send away, cast out, the depressed, the despairing. The One [Jesus] will comfort us and give us rest.
The names listed in Genesis 5 and the meaning of the names in Hebrew.
Adam (Genesis 5:3-5) Adam means “Man”
Seth (Genesis 5:3, 6-8) Seth means “put” or “appointed” or "Substitute"
Enosh (Genesis 5:6, 9-11) Enosh mean a " mortal man"
Cainan (Genesis 5:9, 12-14) Cainan means dwelling place
Mahalalel (Genesis 5:12, 15-18) Mahalalel means "praise God or God be praised"
Jared (Genesis 5:15, 18-20) Jared means "descend"
Enoch (Genesis 5:18, 21-24) Enoch means "to initiate or discipline:-dedicate, train up"
Methuselah (Genesis 5:21, 25-27) Methuselah means" [his] death will send away, cast out.
Lamech (Genesis 5: 25, 28-31) Lamech means " to be low, depressed or grow poor or impoverished"
Noah (Genesis 5:28-29) Noah’s name means "comfort or rest"
When putting the meaning of these names in a Phrase this is how it reads.
Man [is] appointed a mortal man [in his] dwelling place. Praise God, [He] descended to discipline and train-up.
[His] death will send away, cast out, the depressed, the despairing. The One [Jesus] will comfort us and give us rest.
Using the meaning of the names of the sons of God in Genesis 5 point us to Son of God who is Jesus. Genesis 5 is also and offspring list, when a person reads Genesis 6:1-4 is talking about sons of God and taking wives and having offspring (bore children in verse 4). The angel view redefines marriage and goes against Gods institution of marriage. Woman came from man so it is fitting that they marry and procreate. The Angel view also goes against Gods order for creation each kind produces after its own kind. Basically Genesis 6 has become a marriage debate, are sons of God angels or are they human that took wives. I am very confident the sons of God are HUMAN. Interesting as well that Genesis 6:1-4 is talking about sons of God and taking wives and having offspring (bore children in verse 4) is mentioned after Genesis 5. Genesis 5 is an Offspring list.
The Genealogy of Jesus Christ. Also with this Genesis 5 you find this same list in Luke 3:36-38, which is a bloodline to Jesus. Angels do no have any Genealogy (blood line) and God in His written word would not have sons of God as angels, because God does not Justify an angel by Faith.
I am following your channel very carefully. This is one of several controversial topics of the Bible. What do you have to say about the race of the giants found in the Bible?
+Joyce Mbogo Though the old KJV translated this term as "giants," it does not actually have that meaning in Hebrew. It literally means "fallen ones." On the other hand, there is a similar term that is used later in the Old Testament, the Rephaim, that is borrowed from Ugaritic literature and describes large people.
One ought to remember that both in the past and even today, all people are not the same height. A number of years ago, my wife and I had the opportunity to visit the Yucatan where we met descendants of the Mayans. Their men were the same height as my wife (she stands a 5'4") and she felt as though she was a giant among them.
Since the Nephalim here in Genesis 6 were destroyed in the Flood, they bear no connection to the later reference to Nephalim who were in Canaan (Numbers 13:33).
I sincerely believe the sons of God were from seth's line. It follows the whole theme of the Word of God. Pagan women from cains line were taken in marriage by believers from Seth's line and The Believers started to go after false pagan gods. Thus these men fell from the faith and the result was sins of violence and many being turned to a Reprobate mind due to abandoning the 1 True God from the influence of pagan women. We see later on in Genesis Isaac , Jacob being ordered to marry from their people and not the foreign women. We see king Solomons example where once he married fair pagan women he turned from God and worshipped false gods. See the effect it had on Israel after that. Also we come to 1st Corinthians 7 where Paul orders Christians that are eligible to marry are ordered to marry within the faith. This theme is followed through the whole bible. I personally believe the theory of the book of enoch is very dangerous. It leads to people spending 100s of dollars on UFO books , books by Tom Horn and Steve Quayle and it's also a million dollar money grabber. I believe from much research that the book of enoch theory came from Jewish fables that Paul warned to stay away from. I'm highly aware that certain early church fathers believed it but there were those that didnt either. Just because certain early church fathers believed it from the 1st few centuries doesn't validate the angel theory. The early church fathers also believed in the pagan legend of the Phoenix. A bird that came back to life. These men were not infallible. I believe that the sons of seth line is played out through the whole Bible. I've also seen many that believe the book of enoch theory start to believe in the serpent seed doctrine and many other harmful gnostic doctrines.
@@JesusisLord1130 "Undisputed," I am going to have to "dispute" you a little, here. I will not go INTO this--just gonna' bring ONE simple point: Scripture says, "they...(the Nephilim) were IN THE EARTH in those days...and AFTERWARD..." Brother, do you understand CONTEXT pretty well? Well, the "context" here is that, these "Angels," not humans, were "On the earth," in those ancient days. Why, if these were just MEN, would it SAY that? Would it not be a "NO-BRAINER" if they were just men? If they were only men--of COURSE they would be ON/IN the earth, not just in THAT time PERIOD--but ALWAYS! No. These were "Angels" that "LEFT THEIR FIRST ESTATE.." God bless you, good brother.
@@JesusisLord1130 I agree 100%
@@michellejohnsen912Why?
1st peter supported this interpretation as well
Part 2
Of course since man has fallen short of the glory (fallen state) of God that is why the word nephilim is used. The word Nephilim, a Hebrew word meaning 'those who have fallen' or 'the fallen ones.
Strong's Concordance for Nephilim (Hebrew) is H5303 and is derived from the word Nephal is H5307. Nephal is to fall, lie or cast down. Naphal is a Hebrew word.Using the Hebrew word Naphal which you get the Hebrew word Nephilim.
Job also is a Patriarch
Job 1: 20 "Then Job arose, tore his robe, and shaved his head; and he FELL to the ground and worshiped."
The word "FELL" in Job 1: 20 when translated to Hebrew is the word "Naphal".
Hebrew use is the Nephilim would fall (Naphal) to the ground like Job 1: 20 mentions, so it would be in a state of worship, probably on their knees while presenting the animal sacrifice.
Romans 3:23
"for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,"
Also what can be applied to the Nephilim, mankind is in a fallen from the glory of God. Since the word Nephilim comes from the word Nephal is to fall, lie or cast down. The word would also mean the sinful condition of a fallen state as well, along with falling to the ground in worship and prayer before a Holy God, while presenting the animal sacrifice for the payment for sins, done by the head of the household (Patriarch). The fall of man happened in Genesis 3, of course this is when sin and trangression against a Holy God corrupted mankind.....a fallen condition.
The word nephilim to put it in simple terms just means fallen from God's Glory, cast down, fallen ones. The word nephilim in the In Genesis 6: 4 the English/Greek word "giants" is used and in Hebrew it would be "nephilim". It is plural use of the words (giants/nephilim), not singular use of the words (giants/nephilim).
In verse 3 God said about man that his days shall be 120 years. Years is a theme in Genesis 5 the previous chapter.
Years is emphasized over and over in Genesis 5 and is mentioned again in Genesis 6:3. In Genesis 6:4 the word Giants (Greek) is used. The word "giant" (Greek) is primarily referring to YEARS. Methuselah lived 969 years (Genesis 5 27) God NEVER mentions height in Genesis 6:3. Although........Height or Stature may have existed since they lived such long lives. Adam up until Noah and the people of those days may have been between 6 feet too 10 feet tall, but the text does not say. Goliath in the Bible was 9 feet 6 inches tall found in 1 Samuel 17-4. Also do not rule out 120 years until the judgement of the flood, that also can be applied.
Genesis 6: 1-4 "Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.
3 And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4 There were giants (nephilim) on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
When a person reads Genesis 6 1-4 the sons of God makes more sense with the Patriarchs of Genesis 5, they would also produce other 'Fallen ones" (Giants/Nephilim)>>>>Fallen from Gods' Glory into sin, but had sin atoned for because of the animal sacrifices which is a foreshadowing of Jesus and His Sacrifice.....The sons of God are in a covenent relationship with God because of the sacrifice with shed blood. People that teach angels as sons of God are opposing Jesus, His sacrifice and the New Covenant with shed blood in New Testament and the Old Covenant with animals (lambs...ect.) foreshadoiwng and pointing to the sacrifice of Jesus the Lamb of God.
Luke 22:20 "And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood."
Hebrews 8 :13 "In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away."
In the Old Testament the covenant was with the blood of animals for the sons of God (Patriarchs/nation of Israel) in an Adopted sense, in the New Testament the New Covenant is in the Blood of Jesus he poured out on the Cross for the sons of God in an Adopted sense. Angelic spiritual beings cannot be the sons of God. This view comes from old Jewish beleifs, which are man centered beleifs and are influenced by pagan mythogy. The Jews never had the thought of a Second Adam (Jesus), let alone that God had a Son.
When a person views Genesis 5 as the "sons of God" this is more in CONTEXT, because when scripture was first written there was no verse breaks or chapter breaks.
These verses prove that the sons of God in the Old Testament are not human.
To have a testament, you need to have the death of the tester.
To have a prophecy fulfilled, the words of the prophecy must be spoken first.
Finally, if only humans are sons of God, then how does that make us equal to angels? Especially since before Christ's ascension humans were lower than angels.
Hebrews 9:16-17
Joel 2:28-32
Luke 20:36
Revelation 22:8-9
Hebrews 2:9
Excellent!!!!
Angels are spirit beings (Hebrews 1:7, 14), Jesus Himself said that “spirits do not have flesh and bones” (Luke 24:39). Jesus also said that “angels neither marry, nor are given in marriage” (Luke 20:34-36; Matthew 22:29-30; Mark 12:24-25). In order for angels to reproduce they must have flesh and DNA, and DNA is an organic material that is found in flesh and bones.
Pay attention to what is taking place in the Book of Genesis CHAPTERS 1-6. Yes, angels are referred to as the “sons of God” in Job 1:6; Job 2:1, & Job 38:7 because God is their “Father” through creation. Does that mean that the sons of God in Genesis 6 are also angels because they are in the Book of Job? NO! Were looking at verses in Genesis, NOT the Book of Job. Try not to interpret Genesis 6:1-4 with other books in the Bible. Stick with just the Book you are reading and studying. Pay attention to the context.
Adam is also a “son of God”, created by God, made in the image of God (Genesis 1:26; Genesis 5:1-3). Adam walked and talked with God (Genesis 3:8-10). Genesis chapter 3 tells about the fall of man. Genesis chapter 4 gives the story of Cain and Abel and follows with the genealogical descent from Cain to Lamech. Then in Genesis 4:26, Scripture says, beginning with Seth “then began men to call upon the name of the LORD". Genesis Chapter 5 is called “the book of the genealogy of Adam”, it starts with God’s creation of Adam and Adam’s line continued through Noah. You can see thus far, just using the Book of Genesis that some men looked to God and some men did not. In Genesis Chapter 6, we see “the sons of God” (men who called upon the name of the LORD) intermarrying with “the daughters of men” (ungodly women). God says in Genesis 6:3, “My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh:”. [Remember, man is flesh, and angels are spirit beings] And in Genesis 6:7, “I will destroy man [flesh, not hybrids, not spirit beings] whom I have created from the face of the earth;”. The giants of Genesis 6:4 were human descendants of Adam and Eve, not hybrids ( Acts 17:26; Genesis 2:23; Genesis 3:20). Giants again descended from Ham, but that's another Bible Study.
In conclusion, all living Earthly things have the same DNA ingredients in them. Angels are not made of the same ingredients. God created the heavens and the Earth...two separate entities with separate characteristics. DNA is earthy.
All good points, though I would point out that the Hebrew text of Genesis 6 makes no mention of Giants.
Genesis 6:1-2 When mankind began to multiply on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of mankind were beautiful and they took any they chose as wives for themselves.
Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth both in those days and afterward, when the sons of God came to the daughters of mankind, who bore children to them. They were powerful men of old, the famous men.
Torah Genesis 6:1-2 When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose.
Torah Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days-and also afterward-when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.
Tanakh Genesis 6:1-2 When men began to increase on earth and daughters were born to them, the divine beings saw how beautiful the daughters of men were and took wives from among those that pleased them.
Tanakh Genesis 6:4 It was then, and later too, that the Nephilim appeared on earth-when the divine beings cohabited with the daughters of men, who bore them offspring. They were the heroes of old, the men of renown.
DSS 1Q23 Frags. 9+14+15 [...] they knew of the se[crets of...] [...si]n was great in the earth [...] [...] and they killed ma[ny...] [...they begat] giants [...]
DSS 4Q531 Frag. 1 [...] they defiled [...] [...they begot] giants and monsters [...] [...] they begot and, behold, a[ll the earth was corrupted...] [...] with its blood and by the hand of [...] [giants] which did not suffice for them and [...] [...] and they were seeking to devour many [...] [...] [...] the monsters [destro]yed it.
Septuagint Job 1:6 And it came to pass on a day, that behold, the angels of God came to stand before the Lord, and the devil came with them.
Septuagint Job 2:1 And it came to pass on a certain day, that the angels of God came to stand before the Lord, and the devil came among them to stand before the Lord.
Septuagint Job 38:7 When the stars were made, all my angels praised me with a loud voice.
Job 38:7 While the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Tanakh Job 1:6 One day the divine beings presented themselves before the LORD, and the Adversary came along with them.
Tanakh Job 2:1 One day the divine beings presented themselves before the LORD. The Adversary came along with them to present himself before the LORD.
Tanakh Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together and all the divine beings shouted for joy?
DSS Job 38:7 When the stars of morning shine together, and all the angels of God cry out together,
Luke 20:36 "For they can no longer die, because they are like angels and are children of God"
1 Peter 3:18-20 For Christ also suffered for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring you to God. He was put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, in which he also went and made proclamation to the spirits in prison who in the past were disobedient, when God patiently waited in the days of Noah while the ark was being prepared. In it a few-that is, eight people-were saved through water.
2 Peter 2:4-6 For if God didn't spare the angels who sinned but cast them into hell and delivered them in chains of utter darkness, to be kept for judgment, and if he didn't spare the ancient world, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others, when he brought the flood on the world of the ungodly, and if he reduced the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes and condemned them to extinction, making them an example of what is coming to the ungodly,
Jude 6 And the angels who did not keep their own position but abandoned their proper dwelling, He has kept in eternal chains in deep darkness for the judgement of the Great Day.
@EternalLifeNews I agree to pretty much all of this except to the affirmation that "sons of God" are angels in the Book of Job, "because God is their “Father” through creation" that is an assumption nowhere in the book of Job or the bible it says that, in fact Hebrews 1:5 shows that no angel is ever called son of God, you could say well this is talking about Jesus which is true, but we humans who accept the Christ are begotten of God and we are also called sons of God (1 Peter 1:3 , James 1:18) but no angel Nowhere is ever called son of God there is no scripture to support this instead there one that denies it . In the other hand Luke 3:38 show Adam as son of God in the genealogy, it shows Adam for lack of better words has having the title of son of God applied twice. One for been created right out of the hand of God and second for believing in the future messiah either way this title is only given to men. Genesis 6 is easy to understand is obviously talking about humans not hybrids, by the way humans where taller back then our preflood ancestors DNA was better how else did they get to live over 900 years? it is obvious the human body back then was more than what it is in today standards.
The real question is who are the sons of God in the book of Job 1:6 and 2:1, and not only that what is Satan doing back in Heaven wasn’t he kicked out and we know he was how did he get back in? and Job 38:7 is talking about day one of creation how can stars sing, weren’t stars created in day four? but this is part of another Bible study.
Did Noah come from seths line? If not then, the “and afterwards” would not be relevant...
Yes, Genesis 5 gives the line from Adam to Seth and eventually down to Noah.
Also doesn’t the Bible say something about the reason there is marriage because of the cause of fornication. I forgot what the text was, but maybe in the corrupt days of Noah there was a lot of immorality.
Mike Simpson didn’t one apostle say that it would be better if man not to marry but because of the fornications he must give into marriage
Good
Here my thoughts in 2 parts, I do not beleive in the angel view.
Part 1
This Genealogy line comes from Genesis 5 who are the “sons of God”. Another Point of the sons of God and the bloodline to Jesus is found in Luke 3.
Family of Adam (Genesis and Luke Account)
God created Adam, so God was Adam’s father 1. Luke 3: 38 God created Adam (Luke writes son of God)
1. Genesis 5: 3 Adam begot Seth 2. Luke 3: 38 Adam’s son is Seth
2. Genesis 5: 6 Seth begot Enosh 3. Luke 3: 38 Seth’s son is Enos (Enosh)
3. Genesis 5: 9 Enosh begot Cainan 4. Luke 3: 38 & 37 Enos’s (Enosh) son is Cainan
4. Genesis 5: 12 Cainan begot Mahalaleel 5. Luke 3: 37 Cainan’s son is Mahalaleel
5. Genesis 5: 15 Mahaleel begot Jared 6. Luke 3: 37 Mahalaleel’s son is Jared
6. Genesis 5: 18 Jared begot Enoch 7. Luke 3: 37 Jared’s son is Enoch
7. Genesis 5: 21 Enoch begot Methuselah 8. Luke 3: 37 Enoch’s son is Methuselah
8. Genesis 5: 25 Methuselah begot Lamech 9. Luke 3: 37 & 36 Methuselah’s son is Lamech
9. Genesis 5: 28,29 Lamech begot Noah 10. Luke 3: 36 Lamech’s son is Noah
Genesis 5: 32 Noah begot Shem, Ham and Japheth 11. Luke 3: 36 Noah’s son is Shem
Luke’s Account in reverse (matches Genesis)
Note in Luke 3: 23 Joseph is the father of Jesus. (Adopted son) in a similar manner like Adam’s father is God who created him.
These two lists are the “sons of God”. The "sons of God" are also referred to as "Patriarchs" in scripture. Patriarchs/sons of God presented animal sacrifices unto the Lord God. Noah was well aware of these sacrifices. Genesis 8: 20 “Then Noah built an altar to the LORD, and took of every clean animal and of every clean bird, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.”
The only way Noah would have known about an burnt offering is from his father (Lamech). These animal sacrifices were passed down from father to son.
Genesis 3: 21 "The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them.
Here God probably performed the first animal sacrifice when He made tunics of skin. The first sacrifice for sinful man (Adam and Eve). In Jesus the last sacrifice for sinful man at the Cross.
Genesis 4 3-5 And in the process of time it came to pass that Cain brought an offering of the fruit of the ground to the Lord. 4 Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat. And the Lord respected Abel and his offering, 5 but He did not respect Cain and his offering. And Cain was very angry, and his countenance fell.
Hebrews 11:4 "By faith Abel offered to God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, through which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts; and through it he being dead still speaks."
NOTICE Abel was "Righteous" and it is by "Faith" also it was an animal sacrifice. How did Cain and Abel know to present offerings unto the Lord God????? Scripture does not say they were commanded to give an offering. The only way is from Genesis 3:21 when God made the tunics of skin.
Genesis 4: 26 And as for Seth, to him also a son was born; and he named him Enosh. Then men began to call on the name of the Lord.
Calling on the Name of the Lord was presenting an animal sacrifice unto God. Seth would be a "Adopted" son of God. Then of course than a person can include Noah's offering found in Genesis 8:20. Noah also would be a "Adopted" son of God. The sons of God are Adopted in both OT and NT
Satan uses the same tactics today with the feminist movement, which is Anti Patriarchal. Angels as sons of God DENIES the Patriachs that are mentioned in Genesis 5 who are the sons of God. The angel view as sons of God is Anti Patriarchal. The Lord God is in a "Covenant" Relationship with mankind, not angels. The "Covenant" Relationship has to due with animal sacrifices/burnt offerings, because death of the sacrifice and the shed blood is presented to the Lord God. No where in scripture did any angel present a death of a sacrifice and shed blood to the Lord God. Even the Jews had a "day of Atonement". When bringing the animal sacrifices into the picture, it makes more sense the sons of God are human or were at one time human. The Lord God Adopts the sons of God, because of their faith and atonement.
God has always used the animal sacrifice/burnt offerings/Alter with the Patriarchs and the Jews. Leviticus 17 11 "11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. The OT sons of God were predistanated to Jesus awaiting His sacrifice on the Cross, the final payment for sin.
The body DIES (flesh), the body is sentenced to death because of Adam. God saves the "soul", but not the flesh, that is why the sons of God in the OT were once human (Patriarchs) and why Genesis 5 are the sons of God. Geneis 5 also shows being born and death repeatedly
Looking at the Genealogy line what is mentioned is TWO Adam's, the first and Last Adam. The First Adam who is of obviously is Adam the first man created from the earth. Romans 3 23 " for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God". The First man (Adam) ALL of humanity has fallen short of the glory of God. Mankind has a sin nature because of the First man (Adam) and death because of the First man Adam.
Romans 5 12-14 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned- 13 for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. 14 Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come.
Even Genesis 5 since the genealogy list is associated with the FIRST man (Adam) they ALL die, the passages say how long each Patriarch lived, Methuselah lived 969 years (Genesis 5 27). Reason why Moses uses sons of God in Genesis 6 is because the Genealogy line of Genesis 5 is ASSOCIATED with Jesus the Son of God, the SECOND Adam or to say the LAST Adam. Jesus is also referred to as the son of man. The Genealogy line in Luke 3 proves the sons of God mentioned in Genesis 6 associaton with Jesus as well as the animal sacrifices and shed blood covenant relationship with the Cross and the sacrifice Jesus made with His shed blood.
Marry ? Mate? Angels taking a physical human form???
Did you not know, "Monica," that angels can take up human form when here on earth--including every single detail? There was a choice that God gave them--remain "Spirit" in their essence--which means--NO PHYSICAL CONTACT with humans, or, become as THEY, and therefore, be subject to aging, and dying as a human being. There is MUCH we do not KNOW about spiritual realities, so, do not be so quick to "snicker" about these things. God bless you.
Yes Angel's took the form of humans and went to visit sodom and gommora remember?
@@raygabrelcik2578 where are you getting your info from?
There will be no procreation in heaven and angels don’t marry or procreate. They are not the same kind as men that God created per God’s word which is totally true and powerful and sovereign.
Kjv is supposedly the perfect translation
KJV is pretty good when it comes to the Old Testament; it is a bit less precise when it comes to the New Testament. I have discussed some of the modern English translations here: ruclips.net/video/PqgXKMmG4zs/видео.html
I believe that the "sons of God" are indeed angels. Three reasons: (1) Enoch spoke of this in his book. The apostle Paul says in Hebrews 11:5...Enoch was translated that he should not see death.......for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased Yehovah. I suspect liars are not pleasing to God, for all liars will be cast into eternal fire; therefore Enoch was not making this up in the Book of Enoch. Therefore, one must conclude that Enoch was telling the truth. (2) Again, in Heb. 13:2 Paul reminds us "to not to forget to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unaware." Therefore one can conclude angels can have the form of humans. (3) Jude 7 states "in like manner" giving themselves over to fornication and going after strange flesh", one can conclude he is referencing the sons of God in Genesis 6. At least I can 😄
You are assuing that Enoch indeed wrote the so-called Book of Enoch. If he had actually done so, then we should have expected that the Jews would have included it in the books they understood to be the Scriptures. They did not.
That does not mean this interepretation is in error, but I would not lean upon the Book of Enoch as my primary sources of evidence.
For a lot more on the Book of Enoch, see my lecture on this topic at ruclips.net/video/9UZUQoBZfRo/видео.html
@@DrJohnStevenson Yeshua set it up that each kind would reproduce its own kind. To me that means that humans don't create giants. However, I believe that humans and angels could create this offspring. Regardless of which way I believe, it doesn't matter. My salvation is not determined by me believing or not believing that the "sons of God" are angels.
septuagint translates to the more specific: gigantes in connection to the fallen ones.
"Son of God" has a strong theme through Scripture as being "direct creation of God". In the OT of the angels (Genesis, Job, off-hand ref on psalms, and Jesus' coronation Psalm ref to God making him King). NT picks this up too, Luke ref to Adam as "Son of God", John refs to NT believers recieving Christ as "having right to be sons of God... born from above (ie, again)." This is why Jesus is the last Adam, not as one created as Adam, but as one begotten from the bosom of the eternal God. Scripture seems pretty clear thematically when NT writers seen in their interpretation of the OT.
gigantes means "earth born" does it not?
gigantes means "earth born" does it not?
No, it simple means "big guy," much like our English word giant. That does not have to be someone who is unearthly. I know a few guys who tower over me and they could be classified as something of a giant to me. The Greek term is used in the Septuagint in a number of places:
Numbers 13:33 "There also we saw the GIGANTES and we became like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight." (Num 13:33 LXX).
Deuteronomy 1:28 'Where can we go up? Our brethren have made our hearts melt, saying, "The people are bigger and taller than we; the cities are large and fortified to heaven. And besides, we saw the sons of the GIGANAS there."' (Deu 1:28 LXX).
Proverbs 21:16 A man who wanders from the way of understanding will rest in the assembly of the GIGANTAS. (Pro 21:16 LXX)
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Indeed, the term is used a number of times in Isaiah merely to speak of mighty warriors.
The original Greek word was built from Gaia (earth). It was used to describe those who were half divine and half from earth. Later on, it was more closely associated with what we mean as giants. It was also used in the 5th-6th century BC to mean "sons of the earth".
There were giants on the earth in those days, >>>and also afterward,
Wake up people ! ! ! !
Yes, there were giant's. Genesis 6:4
Yes, there were fallen angels with Satan~
"Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works."
2 Corinthians 11: 15
Including Satan. (Isaiah 14:12~ How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! "
If you notice here it also says, "...which did weaken the nations..."
Now take into account Cain going off to the land of Nod ~ Genesis 4:16~
After the fall of Satan when he fell, "weakened the nations."
WHAT NATIONS? If it was just himself, and Adam and Eve?
Satan had already fallen, weakened nations before Eve met him in the Garden of Eden.
Sounds clear to me civilizations/nations already existed before Adam, and Eve which gave Cain a place for go, find a wife.
Why else would Cain say. "... that everyone that findeth me shall slay me."?
Genesis 4: 14
How else could Cain build a city named after his first born "Enoch" by himself ?
Genesis 4 : 17
The fact it says, "...weakened the nations. ." proves many generations had to have past ( Before Adam And Eve ) to produce so many people to have numerous nations.
The fallen angels are not, " the sons of God." But the sons of/ministers for, the son of the "morning" = Lucifer.
ADAM~. {Son of God} 》 SETH, 》 on 》".... are the SONS OF GOD....
ITS A D.N.A. THING
"Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son Adam, which was the son of God. "
Luke 3: 38
This is the evolution of man. ......
We all evolve, this is proven just from the age of 1, into your grumpy old fart years.
With age. ... Comes Wisdom.
GOD SAYS. .... " Seek her out, "Wisdom ".
Yes .... there were the cavemen
BEFORE ADAM!!!!
NOW... read. Spiritually listen, and discern.
Put religion in the crapper, and flush.
The Bible was made a religious book, by the doctrines, and Commandments of men "
The Bible was made a book of knowledge and wisdom, for ALL who knock, and in the spirit seek Him out.... not in the flesh, sitting in a church pew paying tithes.
Why else would California be banning it.
God said, "Let "US" create male and female in "OUR" image and He blessed them to multiply the earth ~Genesis 1: 28 ~ AND right after He Blessed them, HE GIVES THEM A TASK.... SPEAKING TO THEM A TASK ~BE FRUITFUL....
(Not Adam and Eve ),
and THEN... "ALL: the host of the heavens and the earth were finished. Genesis 2 : 1
Adam was created, after God rested, ~ Genesis 2: 7~ to be Gods personal gardener (to dress and keep it ) Genesis 2 :15
Eve was cursed when it comes to multiply the earth. "I will GREATLY MULTIPLY THY SORROW. .." Genesis 3:16
Eve was the "mother of all living" through Christ Jesus ( Although the works was finished from the foundation of the world )
Hebrews 4:3 ~
NOT the mother of the entire human race.
WHEN Cain took to himself a wife, it was from the ("women~daughters of men"~ cavemen) who were born before Adam (Son of God) and Eve.
(NO INCEST PEOPLE )
Then when Seth came along, THEN. ...
(The sons of "God"~Adam~ was the "son of God" Luke 3: 38...which was the son of God. " ~ and Seth and his brothers) ~ Genesis 6: 2~ took to themselves wives, the daughters of "MEN"-
same place~women, Cain took his wife from.
GOT IT PEOPLE?
SIMPLE ISN'T IT. ... WHY READ "MORE" into a SIMPLE STORY?
"For the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2:14"
AND for all you evolution -ist.....
"All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of the beast, another of fishes, and another of birds." I Corintians 15:39
The findings of the such as " Lucy" one of the many daughters of men. Genesis 6 : 2
For all you aliens lovers. ..
" "... sons of the alien.... " Isaiah 61: 5
Simple. .... as it gets. ~Herdsman III OLDIII ~
"I form the light, and create darkness : I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
You the only caveman round here lol.
there was allot of incest in the early patriarch
Sarah Was Abrahams half sister
same father, 2 different mothers.
& also: in the bible geneologies it always says
..... son of .....
..... son of .....
Adam is the only one given the title
Adam son of G-d
every other man after him was called son of... & his fathers name.
A prophet of God, the prophesied return of Elijah, speaks: GOD'S ANGELS CANNOT AND DO NOT "FALL." And if you think angels can fall, "You do err, not knowing Scriptures nor the power of God." Furthermore, absolutely all intelligent beings in this Universe are the "sons of God, " be they from this planet or another. ("Is it not written in your law, 'I have said ye are gods'?" "I have said ye are gods and all of you are children of the Most High.") BUT MOST ARE UNAWARE OF THIS FACT. And when the Bible speaks of "the sons of God" it is simply referring to beings who have advanced far enough spiritually that they ARE fully aware of what they are. And the "sons of God" mating with the "daughters of men" were spiritually- advanced beings from elsewhere that were "backsliding," and mated with less spiritually-advanced Earth women. But know this: absolutely EVERYTHING is part of God's perfect plan, without exception. (I don't receive RUclips comment notifications, but those who seek can easily find how to contact me.)
Genesis 6:1-2 When mankind began to multiply on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of mankind were beautiful and they took any they chose as wives for themselves.
Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth both in those days and afterward, when the sons of God came to the daughters of mankind, who bore children to them. They were powerful men of old, the famous men.
Torah Genesis 6:1-2 When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose.
Torah Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days-and also afterward-when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.
Tanakh Genesis 6:1-2 When men began to increase on earth and daughters were born to them, the divine beings saw how beautiful the daughters of men were and took wives from among those that pleased them.
Tanakh Genesis 6:4 It was then, and later too, that the Nephilim appeared on earth-when the divine beings cohabited with the daughters of men, who bore them offspring. They were the heroes of old, the men of renown.
DSS 1Q23 Frags. 9+14+15 [...] they knew of the se[crets of...] [...si]n was great in the earth [...] [...] and they killed ma[ny...] [...they begat] giants [...]
DSS 4Q531 Frag. 1 [...] they defiled [...] [...they begot] giants and monsters [...] [...] they begot and, behold, a[ll the earth was corrupted...] [...] with its blood and by the hand of [...] [giants] which did not suffice for them and [...] [...] and they were seeking to devour many [...] [...] [...] the monsters [destro]yed it.
Septuagint Job 1:6 And it came to pass on a day, that behold, the angels of God came to stand before the Lord, and the devil came with them.
Septuagint Job 2:1 And it came to pass on a certain day, that the angels of God came to stand before the Lord, and the devil came among them to stand before the Lord.
Septuagint Job 38:7 When the stars were made, all my angels praised me with a loud voice.
Job 38:7 While the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Tanakh Job 1:6 One day the divine beings presented themselves before the LORD, and the Adversary came along with them.
Tanakh Job 2:1 One day the divine beings presented themselves before the LORD. The Adversary came along with them to present himself before the LORD.
Tanakh Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together and all the divine beings shouted for joy?
DSS Job 38:7 When the stars of morning shine together, and all the angels of God cry out together,
Luke 20:36 "For they can no longer die, because they are like angels and are children of God"
1 Peter 3:18-20 For Christ also suffered for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring you to God. He was put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, in which he also went and made proclamation to the spirits in prison who in the past were disobedient, when God patiently waited in the days of Noah while the ark was being prepared. In it a few-that is, eight people-were saved through water.
2 Peter 2:4-6 For if God didn't spare the angels who sinned but cast them into hell and delivered them in chains of utter darkness, to be kept for judgment, and if he didn't spare the ancient world, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others, when he brought the flood on the world of the ungodly, and if he reduced the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes and condemned them to extinction, making them an example of what is coming to the ungodly,
Jude 6 And the angels who did not keep their own position but abandoned their proper dwelling, He has kept in eternal chains in deep darkness for the judgement of the Great Day.
Plus Revelation talks about Satan and his angels. And then you have demons mentioned (Satan's angels), then you have Satan himself.
So you are making up your own gospel? The bible is God's word and alone is to be trusted. Nothing you said is in harmony with the Bible.
Angels were never referred to as "sons of God" Hebrews 1:5. Angels do not have a Father / son relationship.... they are spiritual created beings. Do not take a verse and create a whole new doctrine.... one of demons in this case.
The Bible admonishes that one that adds to Scripture will be plagued. Rev 22:18
You might be right. But then you are going to have to explain who were the sons of God in the first two chapters of Job as well as who were the sons of God who seem to be present at the creation in Job 38:7.
As to the admonition about adding to Scripture, I was merely sharing the different interpretations of a particular passage and giving the reasons why each one is held. I don't think that I actually endorsed one over the other.
@@DrJohnStevenson
Job is easy. We stick with Scripture.... not the fake book of Enoch... we do not twist to create our own doctrine. Job is not a creation book. People loose context. Here is a good one.
www.refuteit.com/the-sons-of-god-are-not-angels.html
The so-called book is blasphemous neo gnostic garbage.
www.refuteit.com/the-book-of-enoch-debunked.html
I don't know why you are bringing up the book of Enoch except that it sets forth one of the early interpretations of Genesis 6. I certainly would not be basing any Biblical interpretation on the Book of Enoch. On the other hand, there is a quote from this book found in the New Testament Book of Jude. That does not make the Book of Enoch authoritative as even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
@@DrJohnStevenson Jude does not quote the book... of Enoch???
I am referring to the book of enoch because It is what the "nephilim" promoters use to enforce their theory.. If not for you... I hope the readers see the deception. There is a satanic agenda behind the "sons of god" theory.. I left the links. Read it or leave it..