The Historical Argument Against 9:128 & 129 - An Analysis of the Hadith Corpus
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- The Historical argument against 9:128 & 129
disclaimer: all hadith are fake, but even from these sources, there is a canonical sunni doubt in regards to them.
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Praise God, fantastic video, definitely recommend.
Praise be to God!!
Beautiful!
This video is exceptional. Is you listen to the story first hand, it all sounded suspicious. Why did they seek control of Hafsa's copy and more importantly, why did they have to *burn* it. Then by the end I could see, this was all just utter manipulation of God's word. May God guide us to the truth.
Fantastic video
عزيز عليه ما عنتّم
means: "he is burdened by what befell you". The word "عزيز" - "Aziz" in this context cannot come alone, it needs "عليه", which changes the meaning of the word Aziz from meaning one of the Names of God to "being burdened" or "showing empathy" towards Muslims.
The two verses, although they were narrated by a single companion, were in fact narrated by the companion to whom the Prophet commanded his companions to listen to because he is named "the one with the two testimonies" as a reference to his honesty in testifying.
He was praised by the Prophet before he died and commanded his companions to adhere to his testimonies, therefore, the two verses were added.
No need to inflate the issue of these two verses, the Quran is complete in its current state and unchanged from the time of the Prophet's companions. Discussing the verses in this manner only incites fitna and doubt - it is not informative or helpful.
My dear if you think that these people are Muslims you are mistaken, tell me who financed this channel, notice the quality of their production, notice that this video is not attacking only Hadith but attacking the holly Quran, only people who lost their scriptures can envy the Muslims for the preservation of the Quran, they cannot even hide it.
God bless
Submitter propaganda muhammad had the whole Quran complete when he gave it to the people hence allah refers to it as a book.
Here is my confusion:
when Allah is only revealing verses to the prophet one by one or more for the sake of argument, why is Allah using the word Book again and again, let suppose i am giving you random messages one at a time on certain occasion and than all of a sudden i start using the word Book, this is from the book, here is what i am giving you from the book.. at this early stage when Quran is not even compiled and the people dont know any thing about a compiled book instead they just know, these verses are coming from God to his prophet through a messenger, dont you think that at this early stage God is frequently pointing towards some established fact "The Book", which the prophet is able to comprehend, than the people around are also aware of "THE BOOK", although not compiled yet. I think this is the only book that God always sent down to different prophets and God is confident by using the word Book. more ever God also challanges to bring if there is any book before this one. i think there were copies of corrupted BIBLE, still in the form of a book. why than God say bring a book that is before 1400 centuries. Yes The book was always Quran for all times and all prophets, all other books ie Bible, gheeta, maha bharat are fabricated copies of the THE BOOK. they made their own religions using narratives from THE BOOK. if they are going to produce these book in front of Quran than Allah can say no Quran is still the first one you just copied from it.
Salaam,
In Arabic, the word 'Kitaab' can mean a Book, or it can mean something 'prescribed' / 'decreed' / 'ordained' / 'dictate' / 'conjoined'.
Therefore, the Qur'an was what Allah decreed or ordained or prescribed upon us - Soorah by Soorah.
@@negeto2460 in any of the above cases, still Allah is using it as a proper noun, an already established fact, in the same way to All prophets. Its like Allah is saying to every one, this is the book. none other
The same reason God speaks of judgement day in the Quran in the past tense. Stop trying to limit God's knowledge and relying on man relationship with time and the fact that God is the creator of EVERYTHING.
@@us.nyc.10011 The Judgment day is an established fact know to every one from the teachings of the prophets.. read my comment again, why do Allah calls some verses THE BOOK.
@@Listeningworld101 are you dense ? God speaks about things in all scriptures in a matter that is "not limited by the constraints of Time" . When the Quran was transmitted to the prophet orally, as is the case with all prophets and scriptures, eventually all oral revelation HAD to be written in a form of a book so everyone can have access and read it. Therefore, God refers to Moses Tanakh and Jesus Gospel (not NT) and the Quran as "The Book". God knowledge is not limited to time and human learning curve and when we will be able to write scripture in a book. Got it ?
I find it funny how hadith rejectors are ready to view ahadith as historical when they support one of their arguments.
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God could have deliverd the whole Quran to us carved in stone 1400 years ago , then it would have been better preserved. This history as presented in the video just shows the historicity is very problematic, and God did not protect the Quran from corruption.
I would check the Code 19 documentary on SubmissionArchives channel to learn about preservation history
200 million people memorized the Quran front to back. I think that might be evidence enough
@@remanalmersal5968 All old Quran's are incomplete, and memorization relies on written versions.
@@ultrasignificantfootnote3378 how many people memorized the Torah or the gospel....
U don't get it ???
@@remanalmersal5968 Truth depends on logic and reason ,not on memorisation .
I challenge you not to delete this video or comment or block it, as I will unmask your claim of being a Hadith critic (only), now if you believe in the Quran’s perfect preservation (as all Muslims must believe) because the Quran preservation was through Devine intervention and guarantee ( as the Quran it self proclaims) then you must believe that the two verses submitted by the companion of the prophet pbuh was correct and placed correctly, hence you must believe the Hadith about him worth two witnesses is authentic (and the entire video is worthless) , either the Quran is preserved and the Hadith is authentic or both are not authentic i.e. you are not a Muslim, we know that the preservation of Quran and Hadith are among the strongest causes of envy by Ahl AlKitab (who lost their Kitab), that’s why you had to commit this huge blunder (as you cannot help your selves),in the other videos you can hide behind Hadith rejection but this time your luck ran out, now till me how you will dig your self out of this hole?
When there is law, like law of preservation of the Quran, this law does not exist unless it is violated. For example, If there is a law that you cannot leave this room. If you stay in the room forever, nobody will ever know that this law exists. But if you violate this law and try to leave the room, and then you forced back in, then we know that the law exists.
Another vain and unsuccessful attempt to discredit the only well-preserved sacred book. Try over and over; you may find something that no one had found before. Muslims have been waiting for such a thing that would change their views on the divine origin of their book for fourteen centuries. It is pathetic to see the ridiculous assertions, the enemies of Islam in this video make about the perfect religious book that has ever existed on earth.
The Quran is divine. These verses, are not. Please bring an actual argument 🥰
@@HadithCritic kaffir statement
What a blatant lie. The Prophet slayhissalom himself wrote down the revelations from God. That is why God says We have given You the BOOK.
@@kamolegamberdiev7793 Uthman ordered its burning. All evidence cited in gitbook.
@@HadithCritic This is all Sunni lies.
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The truth will prevail
You based all this nonsense on hadith. As muslim the Quran sufficient dont bring lies into Allah with these two verses destroyed Rashad Khalifas theory all he had to do was submit but hes heart wouldnt let him.
These 2 verses were never from God. It seems like you didn't watch the video considering you said "based on hadith" despite all the proofs within the linguistic arguments presented in the video.
@HadithCritic your linguistics "inconsistency" are found in other chapters of the Quran why stop at 2 verses
@@DistortedEmpath Not true. The video explicilty looked at every reference of the roots of these words and how they're used. So this point is null. 10:42
@HadithCritic this would still equal to a nullification of God's preservation of the Quran.