Josh Pate On Alabama & UGA Being Treated Differently (Late Kick Cut)
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- Nick Saban at Alabama and Kirby Smart at UGA have had some amazing battles on the field and the recruiting trail over the years. On Late Kick Live Ep 525 Josh Pate responded to a question about Kirby Smart and UGA maybe receiving different media treatment than Nick Saban hot during his time at Alabama. Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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Basically, to sum this all up Georgia fans…… you’re not BAMA.
They're well aware.
Is that why they had the longest SEC win streak in history? I’ll admit Nick Saban was Kirby’s Kriptonite but the old man ain’t there to save y’all no more ain’t nobody scared of Mike Shula 2.0 over there.
@@conleycopeland1808 Alright Conley COPEland…
@@conleycopeland1808 I don’t think Mike Shula ever found himself within the top 15-20 in recruiting. Much less the 2nd best class in the country with 3-4 other 5 stars predicted to him. He also didn’t take a team of 3 and 4 stars to a national title game beating elite teams along the way in his second year of P5 coaching after taking over a 4-8 program.
Thank you❤
Alabama is and has been a legendary program for decades!
The takeaway here, Kirby ain't Saban and UGA ain't Alabama. If you want Bama recognition do Bama things over the lifetime of your program. Saban is the GOAT but it didn't start with him. Young people who think you know, look up Gene Stallings, Bear Bryant, Frank Thomas and Wallace Wade. And if you want to say Bama inflates their numbers as far as national championships, fine. Look at just the unanimous ones. Or just the SEC Titles, no subjectivity in either of those. No one else is close. There is a reason Bama is hated, it's envy and frustration because every other team, alumnus or fan knows their program can't achieve what Bama has. Maybe they can over a short period but the Tide always rises, just as it did after low tide years of 1997-2007. RTR!
Ask Reggie Jackson about his conversation with Bear Bryant
Saban is legit ..but yall need a fkn history lesson..lol..bleacher report has 12 mythical championships that every roll turd should read..if they can.. claim all you want..lol
@@tbobmann229 lol Jealously is unbecoming. Bama has 18 NCs. UGA has 3 with unearned delusions of grandeur. RTR!
@@tuckthefide74 What are you even talking about? You know how many white southerners openly used the N word in the 60s? Of course it's inappropriate then and by today's standard - but it has zero impact on Bama's legacy of success. Bryant also played a key role in integrating black players in the south. Listen, here is some free advice. People with your mindset will never succeed at the level Alabama does if your main focus is on hating. Work on improving yourself. I assure you, whoever your team is? We don't even thing of them, much less create an actual identity on hating them like you have with your cringe username @tuckthefide74 lol
@@tbobmann229 As I mentioned in my comment above.....if you want to say Bama inflates their numbers as far as national championships, fine. Look at just the unanimous ones. Or just the SEC Titles, no subjectivity in either of those.
Speaking for most if not all UGA fans: we do not want to be Bama. We don't think we are, we're not trying to be. 40 years between championships trust me we're humble as hell. If anyone is comparing us to Bama, it ain't us.
I WISH ALL UGA FANS WERE LIKE YOU. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.
You got my thumbs up for that one for sure. No reason to not be happy with where UGA is right now. Some folks just like to project and pot stir…
RTR
Facts! I’m tired of getting hit with the “y’all aren’t Bama!!!!” line. Never claimed to be, never wanted to be. I just want Georgia to be great and be ourselves! Some of us admittedly did get too big for our britches though. So I understand the backlash we get as Georgia fans.
Don't want UGA to be Bama... want UGA to beat Bama consistently and to be Georgia!!!
you don't want to be bama, be the NEXT. Nothing but respect for Kirby. Roll tide.
I'm a Tennessee fan but I do agree with one of the comments here. Bama was already a huge brand when Saban took over. Everyone knows about Bear Bryant and Bama. They had been down bad for a long time but they were still a huge brand. Georgia, not so much. Also, Kirby wasn't nearly as visible when he took over Georgia as Saban was when he took over Bama.
No we wasn’t stop it we haven’t won a title over 20 years at that time why u lying
The hawk tauh girl 🤣
😂
Just passed that part right as I read this 😂😂😂🤣
Somebody please send this to every Georgia fan on earth!
Please disseminate this to all the Dawgs everywhere. They are not the King of College Football. Kirby Smart is not equal to Nick Saban. That is the objective truth. Period end of message. RTR!
@@Steve-rc5is Saban wouldnt have been half the coach had he not had Smart as his DC for those many years.
Georgia is on path to becoming a dynasty, but they have to win another one either this year or next year first.
@@dare2554 This "UGA fan only" statement is simply not correct. Anybody with half a brain knows that the Bama defensive scheme and execution under Coach Saban was entirely his defense. It was ran exactly how he wanted to run it regardless of who the DC was. The last DC under Coach Saban, Kevin Steele said that exact same thing to the press last season. If you ask Smart I am sure he will say the same thing. That is beyond questioning from anyone who knows Nick Saban. Saban was totally in charge of the Bama defense as he was with the entire team.
Saban won his first NC at LSU without Smart. Saban won two NCs at Bama after Smart left for UGA. By the way the same amount of NCs that Smart has won at UGA. Not to mention Saban beat Smart in the SEC Championship game the last time Bama and UGA played. If your premise was correct them Kirby Smart would not have been 1 win and 5 loses at UGA when he played Saban and Bama.
Why
Roll Tide is World Wide...Whenever Bama loses the whole world celebrates
Yes, in the past. Now, not so much. And it wasn’t so much when Bama lost as it was when Saban lost. People won’t care nearly as much about Bama now that Saban is not the “official” head coach.
@@mr.p3806 They’re still going to be competitive, so people are still going to care. If you’ve seen how they’ve been able to recruit then you’d know nothing’s really changed.
@@chriswilliams6896 What I'm saying, is that, Saban is done. The new HC and staff won't get the same respect that a Saban led team would have. They have to build their own reputation. Now, as far the reputation of Alabama as a whole, that is still intact, until they either sustain or, destroy it. But Debor or however you spell it, has to create his own reputation. Recruiting is rolling but based off the brand, not off of proof of success under Debor. So, yes, things have changed. And only time will provide the answer.
@@mr.p3806 What are the factors of a program that pretty much guarantee a very successful & respected program? Alabama has them all. Still. Nobody questioned DeBoer’s ability to coach a few months ago. It was his recruiting. Now, all of a sudden, people are saying he has to prove himself as a coach. Dude was just in the title game for crying out loud. It took him only two years to take a 4-8 program to a national title game. Changing goal posts on the man.
Don't care if Alabama ever win a single game again but honestly really never liked them anyway see you all the 3rd Saturday in October GBO....P.S.honestly nobody will ever be able to like Alabama was not with N.I.L. it brought everything into the light that was always swept under the crimson rug in the past
People hated Bama when I was a little kid and Coach Bryant led the team to three Nattys in the 60s and another three in the 70s. Bama hate has been a thing for all of my 60 years. Even during the dark times people hated us with a passion.
Georgia hasnt done 1/4 of what bama did
and neither has most all college football programs, whats your point numnuts?
The only legit team Kirby beat without receiver injuries was Tennessee at home. That is sad. And no, 21 Michigan and 22 TCU are not legit.
Guess if u wanna count 17 Oklahoma as well that counts
I'm sure Kirby will keep building moving forward. I think it's a better question to ask can the new Bama coaching staff achieve 1/4 of what Kirby will.
@@RadicallyOptimistic " without receiver injuries" careful your delusion is showing.
Ain’t no way Josh mentioned the Hawk tuah girl 🤣🤣
You seen teams all the way from little league (literally) to CFB holding up signs that said “We want Bama”. Nobody thinks of Georgia as the gold standard in CFB…they just now started winning. Bama has nattys in every decade.
Hell Cleveland Browns fans had We Want Bama signs
@@bama2dabone229. Damn sure did!🐘🐘🐘
"Nobody thinks of Georgia as the gold standard in CFB" Thanks for crawling out from under your rock to voice your biased opinion.
@@dairyair5371 you seem to be ignoring reality, look in the stands for we want GA, then we want Bama. there is only one big dog.
BS , quite the contrary , everyone is saying we’re the team to beat
I hate when people ask this question about my team smh WE DONT WANT TO BE BAMA! Georgia is its own team. Stop trying to compare them to Bama…
What resume is not strong enough 😂
You are 💯 percent right...there is no comparison...😅😂
You're right, and yall won't come close
@@hitwonder101 lol you Bama fans better hope y’all are even a fraction as good as y’all were with Nick Saban. I would keep my mouth shut until then 😂😂
Let me tell you why this comment sounds so disingenuous to Bama fans.
UGA football has gone about a decades long project of trying to replicate everything that made our program successful during the Saban era - stealing coaches, staff, scheme, program structure, recruiting strategy - everything. All the evidence suggests that UGA has been trying to become Bama for years. And the real reason they are constantly favored and given the benefit of the doubt in the offseason is because they look like a Saban-Era Bama photocopy. There’s nothing unique about it.
For years now, we’ve watched y’all talk about “replacing Bama”. “The process”, becoming the “standard”, avoiding “rat poision” etc. This is all Saban era Bama terminology that indicates to us that yall have been paying attention and mimicking. Hell the UGA guy that asked the question in Pate’s video was mad that UGA isn’t getting covered the same way Bama was. Why do you think that is? Because y’all want to be us so damn bad and it’s obvious to everyone outside of Athens.
At the end of the day though, we know that all you’ve really done is create a “Great Value” version of the real thing. Unfortunately for you all, real can’t be replicated. The new Bama is just going to have to beat the past version of itself.
Also the year Georgia beat Bama in the national championship people forget about Jameson Williams going down in the 1st quarter. That was a massive factor in that game, in the SEC championship Georgia could not guard Jameson, his speed was too much. Who knows maybe Kirby would be 0-6 against Saban if Jameson was able to play four quarters.
Well, if we’re playing that game, Pickens didn’t play all year in 21, and you didn’t have to deal with a healthy Bowers or McConkey. And btw, Colt McCoy, since yall always conveniently forget to mention him when bringing up Jamo
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@@zachcoggins9018 1-5
@@zachcoggins9018 brotha you can't give excuses when you're 1-5 against Saban. I only bring up jamo bc he shit on y'all in the SEC championship.
@@daygon128 LOL
Because Alabama is the greatest CFB program of all time and Georgia is just one of the SEC's seven dwarves
I'm a huge UGA fan and Josh hit the nail on the head. I never truly felt UGA had surpassed Alabama, even that 1 win against Alabama didn't feel legit (Alabama had won previously in the year and we won due to injuries). Kirby Smart is the best coach we have ever had and am truly grateful, but no one did it like Saban.
Dude we didn’t win because of injuries! INJURIES happen in football. Most ppl that really know football know we probably missed out on a 3peat because we didn’t have a healthy Bowers or Ladd. But that’s no excuse. Depth and overcoming adversity is the recipe. Go Dawgs
@@rhettwomack430 Even the year Georgia beat Alabama (Title Game 2022) Alabama beat Georgia for the SEC Title and beat them in the state of Georgia. Georgia and Kirby Smart have done an incredible job though and the door is still open for the Dawgs to take the mantle but they will have to deliver on the field and beat Bama on a consistent basis to claim it!
@@frankfowlkes7872 absolutely understand where your coming from.
At least you’re honest🫡
Let’s not forget the referee cheat job national championship game of 2017. There’s reels of missed calls that directly determined the outcome of a national championship game. Bama got that nod by the refs. Najee Harris was already moving when the ball was snapped on the 4th down TD to Ridley. Watch the play.
Im' 62 and a Georgia fan and Bear Bryant won his first national championship with Bama the year before I was born.They were a wrecking house most of my youth and they still are.I like the direction Georgia is going but we have a long way to go to catch Bama in CFB fame.All respect to Nick and Bama and Georgia fans better not sleep on Bama.
Much respect to you and the coherent UGA fans. All the best except against Bama.
Saban took over a 6-7 team and made it a dominator in two seasons and kept it there. Kirby took over a team that had been a 10+ win/season team from a successful coach and stayed at that level.
Saban challenged the press eloquently about team matters and matters about the whole sport...then was proven correct. Kirby so far has kept to his lane in remarks to the press.
Saban challenged/criticized the NCAA about how the game was changing; then changed how he coached and still won championships. Kirby is still winning championships the way he one the first one.
Saban won champioships with a revolving door on quarterbacks, coaches, coordinators, ADs and Strength and Conditioning Coaches. Kirby is doing that, but it hasn't been as obvious.
Saban dealt with disciplining his players with a tough love that often meant keeping them on the team while they straightened up. Kirby is often described as mean and holding a grudge by former players.
Basically, UGA is the Great Value version of Alabama.
I like UGAs odds over time.
I think you get that with all the dominance that they showed for a prolonged period of time
Kind of like Academy Sports and Outdoors: the right stuff, the right price
its like comparing tom brady to mahomes
Mahomes is actually way better. Brady has better defenses. There is a difference
Horrible comparison
😂😂😂😂 "unless you are the hawk tuah girl" 😂😂😂😂
Nobody will ever replicate what Saban did in those 15 years at Alabama. He is the GOAT.
Bama was already a major brand before Saban. Georgia had one championship before Kirby.
Had 2 before Kirby.
It's simple, BAMA IS THE ABSOLUTE GREATEST COLLEGE FOOTBALL PROGRAM IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE SPORT!
Lmfao!!! Those vote in nattys are a joke..look up your "12 mythical titles"...😂
Funny how Bama and Michigan fans claim to be the goat, but it’s actually Ohio St. Best all time winning percentage and last 20 years winning percentage
@@RadicallyOptimisticAnd yet they don’t have the championships to go along with the bullshit you’re saying. Bama is better and it’s not even close
@@tbobmann229 - you are clueless. Bama has 2 or 3 titles that can be argued and more than that are not claimed.
@@RadicallyOptimistic - they wouldn't if they were in the SEC. TITLES matter, not win percentages.
If Georgia wins 3 titles in 4 years, there is no doubt they will earn that respect. It would be undoubtable with their schedule this year.
Simply put, they ain't us. Never going to be, except in their dreams. 🗣 WOOF‼ 😎
Another delusion from a Bama fan. Nobody wants to be Bama🤣
@@dairyair5371Georgia does….
@@dairyair5371 It’s smart that you say you don’t want to be Bama cause you know you could never live up to that standard.
I swear the bama Georgia hate is closing in to get more heated than some of our other rivals
I'm a pup and I love Kirby and UGA being (relatively) under the radar. Just win, baby!
We don't want to be BAMA EVER. We are happy being Georgia. We want to continue to win and do it humbly WITH CLASS. No excuses for when we lose. We don't want your superiority conplex. We are PROUD to be DAWGS. No apologies for ANYTHING. You continue your arrogance. Want no part of it. See you on the field in 2024. We shall see... You are providing some excellent bulletin board material. GO DAWGS!!!!!
Yall mf's are far from humble. I damn near choked one of your humble dawg fans out in Charlotte because your fans base is so disrespectful... bet he won't try another clemson fan again.
Alabama is and always will be the standard in college football.
Lower win percentage than ohio st but sure. Yall are clearly number 2
@@RadicallyOptimistic
Rank Team Won Lost Tied Pct Total Games
1 Michigan 1004 353 36 .734 1,393
2 Alabama 965 337 43 .733 1,345
3 Ohio State 964 333 53 .734 1,350
11 Georgia 881 429 54 .666 1,364
😅😂
@@RadicallyOptimisticHaven't won a meaningful game in almost a decade.
@@To-attempt-toobuddy what? They just won the sec championship, and played for a natty 2 years ago. Do you know how long a decade is? Secondly you gotta quit crying that Alabama is the standard of cfb. You let your hate for Alabama make you look like a vegetable on the internet.
Win a couple championships and now everybody think we want to be Bama. And gotta disagree with you on UGA not being hated... it seems like we're the most hated because every fan base always has so much to say about UGA. The majority of our fans are humble and just enjoying the recent success but they still want us to think we're Bama so bad😂
Bama is a blue blood already and then went on to dominate the modern era in every single aspect, not remotely comparable
Georgia just started taking their football program seriously in 2016. We lived off talent of the kids in this great state and had some really good players. Kirby made the university and the state go ALL IN ON FOOTBALL. That was not the case prior to Kirby and we all know it. Kirby took Georgia to an entirely new level. Alabama college football has been bigger than religion since bear Bryant. I used to hate Bama that was until I really started paying attention to Saban and their football program and once I did that it was nothing but respect. Can’t wait to play them this year. Win or lose Bama is my favorite team to play because I know the Dawgs are playing the very best. Go Dawgs!
Big factor to this was the feeling of invincibility for Saban/Bama and the chaos that would happen when someone pulled it off - auburn kick six, tennessee '22, etc. Georgia since '21 has only lost to Bama. We haven't seen an underdog storm the field against them and go nuts. Those tough losses creates the great story lines and memorable moments even for the awesome dyansties and Georgia hasn't had that yet.
Coach DeBoer is building a Monster, even bigger than what it was previously! We have the best x’s and o’s coach that can recruit as good as Saban (so far), with longevity and hype now! This is going to be special! Roll Tide!🐘🏈🐘
Well they haven’t done what bama did
I think it will take 3-4 chips to start having that conversation. This year is all about get back.
Give them time, you can't compare Saban's whole career to Kirby's record.
@@dawgs365it will take way more 6 championships in 12 years… there is virtually no way uga will ever be able to do fractionally what nick saban and Bama did. That shit was crazy, and it almost ruined cfb. They literally changed the rules because of nick saban and Alabama.
@@dawgs365 Well, you’ll have to come into BDS and take it cause Bama is not giving it to you.
Excellent points. Bama is the standard! RTR
In 2012 I moved to NV with GF at Lake Mead I saw a truck with NV plates and a Tide hat in the window. I said see baby I told you this is a Roll Tide Nation! Roll Tide Roll!!! 🐘🐘🐘🐐💯
I just watched a panel talk about how the media is covering Georgia too much.
You make an interesting point about Nick Saban dominating like no one else had. Yeah, there were dynasties before, but I remember in the early 2000s people used to say that no one was ever going to dominate college football again. Bear Bryant took advantage of recruiting loopholes, used an approach with players you just cant do anymore, basically all the same stuff people said of Saban. Especially once people like Paterno and Bowden started falling from the mountain top, it was said that no one would ever stay at one place forever and build a dynasty like coaches had done in the past. But then Saban went and did just that, and now people are saying it will never happen again. But, all it's going to take is for someone else to crack the code and devise a sure fire winning formula in this new age of college football. College football is cyclical.
This is true and I agree with this but since money has legally come into the picture this has gotten way harder to do than back then also college football is changing at a way more rapid pace than then which will make it way harder to crack that code like you say I don't think college football wants another dynasty that's why it's changing at a more rapid pace.
Josh Pate. Texas fan here, new listener, love the content. I think when this is all over we should get an apartment together, miss your musk.
The Standard is Bama! 🐘
If Georgia had beaten Alabama in the SEC Championship Game last year and then Saban announced his retirement, that would've been the torch passing moment that Josh was talking about. But because Alabama won, it never really happened. Weirdly, Alabama underperforming in 2022 and not playing Georgia in the SECCG actually helped them because it didn't give Georgia another opportunity to beat them. I also think Nick Saban's Alabama program already being the entity of what they were when Kirby started at UGA made it hard for Georgia to get more media attention. Because Saban is now gone, I think Kirby will get more media attention, provided he continues winning of course.
I think Kirby is a very good coach and he will win more championships but the reason why he doesn't get coverage like Saban is that he copied the Saban model which in that situation I would have to just be honest but I think that the media in general kind of view it as just that you copied Saban coaching style but not really have your on model of coaching and the way you do it.
How many teams fans had we want bama signs, "in any ncaa level"???
Haven't seen "we want Georgia" signs anywhere.
Took massive injuries to both NFL caliber receivers and our top 3 cornerbacks being out to win that 1 game..
Alabama was covered like the Yankees because Alabama is the Yankees of CFB. Nothing else, just that. Win 15 more championships and then we can talk UGA fans.
In reality, nobody really cares about this concept, argument or premise! What matters is that Jesus died for your Sins! Do you accept him as your Savior?
It’s waayyyyyy too early. But the dawgs are on the way. One more chip and it’s officially a dynasty. Based on these comments some of yall are little nervous.
That’s all it is.
Basically to earn any national respect, Georgia needs to win approximately 6-7 of the next 10 natties? Got it. Bc if any other team came off winning back-to-back, they would be unanimously picked to win their conference, Georgia wasn’t (look at ESPN for proof). And that’s where the “doubters” narrative came from Kirby.
Putting hawk tuahh girl in this conversation is goat
Always important for little bros GA Dawgs to remember: Bama owns you. We own you and always will
Because it's still early in Georgia's run.
Georgia has it the easiest of any power school.
-4th best state for recruiting, yet no legitimate in-state competition.
-Plays in the easy SEC east.
Good answer - we're used to being surrounded on all sides by bitter rivals who hate our guts, but I'd have to agree that the national enmity just isn't there yet
Kirby and Georgia have had the benefit of teeing off from the ladies tee in the SEC East, their fans don’t understand that statement, but starting this season they will get a taste of what BAMA has had on its plate for going on 18 years. No one in Alabama sees next season’s schedule as anything different than what we’ve always had, Georgia on the other hand can’t stop talking about how hard their schedule is.. 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Let’s see, how fresh they are for the SEC Championship game this time around, it might make them better/tougher, but One thing is for sure, the 10-2 2022 team would have beat Georgia had we been allowed in the playoffs that season.
Bama has been relevant since 2009.... UGA has been relevant since what, 2021??? Kind of a stupid question. They're nothing but a pack of wanna-be's 😂 😂
So UGA was irrelevant in 2017 when they won the SEC, Rose Bowl, and played in OT of the title game?
Bama has been relevant LONG before 2009 buddy. Try 1939…
RTR
@@Ultra-BLV you expect media hype for losing the title game?? 😂 😂
@@skipgumphrey9579 I agree. But speaking for new era, 2000-Now
@@Ultra-BLV You can't educate delusional fans, it's a mindset.
Also, let’s be honest, everything you see happening at Georgia is happening all because of Nick Saban. Look at all the UGA coaches that left Alabama for Georgia. Secondly, I don’t think Georgia would have either of their national titles if they played in the sec west.
To add to all the points you’ve presented, Georgia isn’t really a “media darling” either. I’m sure if Kirby could have it his way, media wouldn’t exist in CFB. 😂 He doesn’t do things flashy, and he doesn’t have a big sign saying “HEY!!! LOOK OVER HERE!!! LOOK WHAT’S GOING ON IN ATHENS!!!!” Not saying Saban did that for Bama, but we’re still in the early stages of building a potentially historic run with Kirby at UGA. So I’m fine as a Georgia fan without getting media attention, and the love or hate that will come with that. As long as they continue with success, I’ll be happy as a fan.
If Bama had Metchie or Jamo, they would’ve beat UGA in the Natty. UGA just took over that 4Q
Also: “WE WANT BAMA” was a real deal trend too
Kirby is 1-5 vs BAMA
But yet Alabama hasn't won a National Championship since 2020. Georgia has won two since then
Bro u just don’t get it uga is 1-5 against bama
@@aaronwestburyand when uga come to bama this year uga will lose again
@@gelato3299 doubtful. There is a reason why Travaris Robinson, Caleb Downs and Julian Sayin left Alabama when Nick Saban retired
@@gelato3299 and Alabama hasn't won a National Championship since 2020. Georgia has won two National Championships since 2020
Whatever y’all say the media shouldn’t have bias from a teams accomplishments from years ago
Whats crazy is Georgia amd Alabama may end up playing 3 times in one year with the playoff setup. That'd be crazy right?
I think I speak for most UGA fans when I say we don’t wanna be bama. We just want to be UGA. & tbh I guess it’s working cause we’re here lol
R T R
Treat BAMA differently because BAMA are head and shoulders above all.
It's just how the media is. Not doing full reports and only what they deem important. I don't care either way. If a team is good, that's what I care about. If they're not any good I don't pay attention to them unless they have a chance to upset. Media doesn't matter. It's what you do week in and week out regardless of what the media reports. Saban took no crap. That's also a reason they got so big.
I have to imagine that the comment section here was not what this clip was intended to create.
Generally only one team can hog the attention at a time. If Kirby keeps doing it and if Alabama falters a little, they could swap positions.
Number 8 in the country is still cool too. We are still number 1 . Go dawgs
The UGA program doesn't have as many titles as Alabama but Kirby did surpass Saban in a couple categories like consecutive wins and consecutive undefeated seasons. In the last three years UGA's record is way better than Alabama's. Two nattys and an sec crown as opposed to Alabama's two sec titles and zero nattys.
People hated Alabama because they played thug ball and it felt like every game they had the refs in their pocket. Their play vs Texas in Texas was thug ball on display. There is a video where Sabin is telling his players to "cut that shit out" because they started doing the horns down sign to the Texas players which is ironic because that was one of the Alabama games that the refs gave them.
With all that, Saban is admired for his accomplishments. Kirby is on track to surpass his record.
Back in 2007, Saban was the first coach to test NIL in the SEC
Are we pretending early 2000s Florida never existed?
Paying players has existed for 40+ years, Saban didn’t invent it buddy.
So basically, Georgia fans don’t consider themselves “the next Bama” everyone else just assumes that Georgia fans think that and place that on Georgia fans, and the reason Georgia fans aren’t the next Bama is because those same fans don’t hate Georgia enough to make them the next Bama.
I think these are getting misconstrued. The question was not about Georgia wanting to be Bama. But rather asking strictly about media coverage.
Is the OP seriously comparing UGA’s run to what Bama has done for the last decade and a half? Are we seriously having this conversation?
Kirby just needs the backing of the SEC HQ and it’s a wrap 😈
Because of UGA only did it for 2 years Alabama done it for 17 years 😊
Coach Saban has been questioned about his age for years, opposing recruiters to coaches asking how long he would be around! Have any of you guys and gals considered this may have been one of Saban’s greatest moves, not retiring and moving to another position! Bama has the best roster in college football, top facilities, internal staff is in tack, and Bama hiring a coach who has won at every place he’s coached, and now, Saban being available to anything needed! And to top that, being paid by ESPN to scout all of Bama’s opponents! Life is Good! RTR
Bama's down, UGA is up. Yet Bama's won 3 of the last 4 SEC championships. It's going to be impossible for UGA to get that Bama treatment when Bama's still here
And Georgia is 0-3 against Alabama during their run since 2018. Oddly enough, Georgia has never beaten Alabama in the SEC championship game.
When uga approaches 8-10 natties......we'll talk.
Pate's opinion about Bama-UGA gonna ruffle some dawg feathers 😂
1-5 with the only win coming when both our top targets were out of the game with torn ACLs. UGA is great and their success is great, but so was Clemson in 16-18. Lets see if Kirby can keep it going.
Uga would have 3 if the refs didn’t cheat us out of a natty in 17.
@@coreytrevor6276 seethe 😂
How did Rick Flair put it??
To Be The Man You Gotta Beat The Man. BAMA owns UGA.
I like the Spurs vs Lakers comparison. Bama UGA gives that dynamic. Pop is a great coach but he didn’t do what Phil Jackson did, nor have the media appeal.
HAWK TUAH MENTION 🗣️🗣️🗣️‼️‼️‼️‼️🔥🔥🔥🔥💥💥💥💥
its pretty simple answer....longevity...if UGA wins 3-4 more titles this decade then we will be talked about that way...for now its been a really good 3 years and some decent years before then
Yall will win at least 4 this decade counting the 2 you already have because competition is very low right now. There are no gold standards at the moment, you can become one
Kirby only knows how to imitate not innovate and everyone but Georgia fans can see it
Georgia isn’t a Blue Blood, #2 Had that Okie St RB not get stopped at the one inch line, Georgia is not even playing in the CFP
How much did Josh make on a bet by sneaking Hawk Tuah in this episode?
Most definitely they are treated differently Georgia win 2 nattys and yet it's brushed off like nothing happened and the 2nd time Georgia was full of freshman
Not hard to do when you are number 1 in college recruiting. Many coaches can win with those players.
I don’t think this is unique to Georgia either. Dabo and Clemson absolutely cooked for a five year period and they were never close to bamas recognition. The bama love reaches far and wide.
Alabama is truly the largest brand of all time. It was truly unreal to watch dominance like that, and I also remind you they did it when everyone was good! Florida and urban. Les miles and lsu. Mark richt and Georgia. It was unreal what saban did and he dominated. I like Kirby, but Georgia is just not even close and not even capable of doing what Bama did. Alabama truly runs cfb
It comes down to winning. College football’s cycles of powerhouses or “runs,”
happen periodically. Georgia is beginning theirs. Unfortunately most fans are clueless about college football history or the players involved. Champions are still and will be be settled by a group. If it’s not big eastern papers in the 20’s, 30’s and 40’s or major bowls of 50’s, 60’s 70’s, BCS etc. As to the powerhouses it’s Georgia now until further notice. As to Alabama, doubt they’ll win anything during the next 40 yrs.
In addition to Josh’s comments, Bama set the standard and created the mold. Kirby has modeled UGa after Bama and created a “me too” type of program, copying Saban’s program from A-Z. Everybody is danika’s with the first US Prez George Washington. Without searching, can you name the second US Prez? ….I rest my case.
Josh, as always, bringing the heat! Josh "knows" this sport and how to analyze it with the best of them. Thanks for the great analysis.
Bama won 6 nattys over a dozen years, Ga has won 2 in recent years. If Ga ends up winning 6 in a 12=15 yr period, they will have "hit" that Bama standard. Oh, BTW, Ga is HATED, by me!! ROLL TIDE!!
I think UGA doing it with the same approach as Bama plays into it as well. Kirby is pretty much Saban 2.0. I'm taking nothing away from UGA. As a Bama fan I think UGA is the program to beat right now. But it's pretty much recruit your ass off, play great defense and win that way. Not that Bama and UGA haven't had good offenses during the runs, but recruiting lights out and winning with defense is the philosophy for both programs.
as a georgia homer , i think think its simple. saban was a legendary coach who made alabama the standard for many years , as the standard your automatically talked about in every major conversation. We not there yet but getting close,
As for all you bama homers , lol you better be glad my prediction of saban training butch jones as your next coach didnt come true , just saying, jajjajaja sorry had to say hi to my bama brothers an good luck this year with your new coach.
Bama had already been the standard, just gone through a rough patch prior to CNS coming to straighten things up. Coach Smart obviously helped with that and saw up close a lot of things that he can draw from in order to build up UGA to his standard. Definitely glad your prediction for Coach Jones didn’t hold true lol 😝
Best of luck to y’all as well, with the obvious exception being that trip to Tuscaloosa ;)
RTR
What was Kirby’s record vs Saban… there it is…. 1-5
GA is GA only and Bama is Bama only!!! Kirby is not Saban, Saban is not Kirby! Comparing them constantly tells me that Kirby is doing an amazing job and will continue...and they'll never be another Saban. Period...the End ‼️💯‼️💯🤷
What Georgia fans keep forgetting is, their recent success under Smart is simply "Alabama with different uniforms." Kirby has said multiple times that, he learned everything about being a head coach and running a program from the Goat! So, Georgia's success is, in large part, because of the dominate success Alabama had under Saban, no matter how much Georgia fans live in denial of this fact!😁
This isnt true. Saban’s secondary was always elite, while Kirby’s best defenses have had weaker secondaries. The style of ball they play is different
@RadicallyOptimistic Completely missed the point my friend!