MATH HOFFA ON THE REVOLT DEAL, BAG FUEL AND WHY BIGGA LEFT👋🏾🗣️🏃

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • MATH HOFFA 💨 PART 2
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  • @IndigoUchiha26
    @IndigoUchiha26 5 месяцев назад +182

    I doubt other platforms will ask math these kind of questions 🗽 this was a real ny conversation 💯 shoutout Tiga & Math

    • @dutchmaster1607
      @dutchmaster1607 5 месяцев назад +13

      Factsssss I was thinking the same thing‼️shout out tyga 💯

    • @Mike-so6wi
      @Mike-so6wi 5 месяцев назад +3

      I thinkmatth put him on tho

    • @BelovedBrotha
      @BelovedBrotha 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@Mike-so6wihe definitely did. That’s why he’s on there.

    • @deesee2051
      @deesee2051 5 месяцев назад +3

      Yes they will it’s a reason Math came to this unknown platform

    • @Uppercutpodcast
      @Uppercutpodcast  5 месяцев назад +18

      Appreciate that bro

  • @richkid1970
    @richkid1970 5 месяцев назад +299

    One of my biggest issues is that Math NEVER takes accountability for his actions. I understand that he is the boss, but bosses make mistakes, and they acknowledge those mistakes; he doesn't.

    • @ezeguiel29
      @ezeguiel29 5 месяцев назад +17

      same with Damon Dash, that's why they click

    • @ezeguiel29
      @ezeguiel29 5 месяцев назад +6

      @JDHleo just saying...people with the same characteristics always tend to click.

    • @honorableadrian1818
      @honorableadrian1818 5 месяцев назад +19

      You don’t understand being a boss vs a employee..Trump is an asshole but he’s very good at business and loopholes ..if you never owned a business or been a boss you can’t relate. Yall are more concerned about his “attitude “ or demeanor “ lol that comes with the game

    • @alontaewilliams7635
      @alontaewilliams7635 5 месяцев назад

      ⁠@@honorableadrian1818You sound dumb. Spoken like a mf who doesn’t run a business and yes I’ve ran several.

    • @ezeguiel29
      @ezeguiel29 5 месяцев назад +12

      @@honorableadrian1818 but...when it's always ''other people's fault" than it's no longer bussines...but rather narcissism. the moment it becomes pathological...you now start to harm others, it be physically of emotionally

  • @BigMac785
    @BigMac785 5 месяцев назад +150

    Money don’t change anybody. It just shows your true colors.

  • @sco1ooograms297
    @sco1ooograms297 5 месяцев назад +84

    I don’t know maff but it seems to me like you were treating them like a pimp keep his hoes “keep em looking good no paper tho”!!!!

    • @Ishbikes
      @Ishbikes 5 месяцев назад +9

      Eeewww *exactly* 🫡

    • @kingjaluv9006
      @kingjaluv9006 5 месяцев назад +4

      😂😂😂

    • @lionelluney3063
      @lionelluney3063 Месяц назад +1

      If they get a hold of some paper they subject to go crazy

  • @PhillyLove83
    @PhillyLove83 5 месяцев назад +56

    So he walked in not looking fly, and your first start was to take that grown man shopping, just pay him more money and he can shop for clothes for himself. I got a homie who bread is low but when we go out and party I give him money on the low so he can feel like a man and he can spend the bread how he wants. I would never offer to buy him clothes or sneaks. Come on Math

    • @edlester4902
      @edlester4902 5 месяцев назад +7

      Actually he said he took him to the clothing sponsors..

    • @pound357
      @pound357 5 месяцев назад +2

      U a solid g homie fam. I like to see everybody shining that make us all look like we moving as one

    • @artsupplydonate4267
      @artsupplydonate4267 5 месяцев назад +3

      U cld give him money & they dont spend it on clothes for the show. Some ppl have no swag. Also Math ain't giving u money bt he'll take u out to restaurant lol

    • @markjackson1512
      @markjackson1512 5 месяцев назад

      Facts

    • @user-ek9so3bu9e
      @user-ek9so3bu9e 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@edlester4902if he paid em they could buy they owns stuff

  • @Moonthre
    @Moonthre 5 месяцев назад +167

    I hated working beside people who would always speak on what someone else is making at the job. It’s a poor mindset.

    • @bettersalute
      @bettersalute 5 месяцев назад +12

      But was this a "job" or was it a partnership between all parties who brought something to the table?..in that aspect it wasn't them "watching his money" it was them watching him covet the bag all to himself

    • @rgalv3
      @rgalv3 5 месяцев назад +18

      @@bettersaluteCan't be a partnership if your're not financially invested.

    • @RichardGordon-q2z
      @RichardGordon-q2z 5 месяцев назад +5

      definitely some feminine energy being worried about another mans accomplishments

    • @BrooklynDon-vr1ui
      @BrooklynDon-vr1ui 5 месяцев назад +12

      “Job” and “poor mindset”
      In the same sentence. How ironic 😂

    • @RichardGordon-q2z
      @RichardGordon-q2z 5 месяцев назад

      @@BrooklynDon-vr1ui pocketwatching is for women and wang gobblers

  • @ironlung_era
    @ironlung_era 5 месяцев назад +57

    I'm still waiting on Math to show how much he was paying Bigga😅😂😂😂

    • @elmztana1201
      @elmztana1201 5 месяцев назад +13

      Tiger said that’s a lot !
      The fact he paid a 7k debt that he didn’t have to should show you bro

    • @TheAspiringNomads
      @TheAspiringNomads 4 месяца назад +3

      @@elmztana1201or he “looks out” but doesn’t really pay a fair wage. His people will always be in need

    • @Pandagocrazy
      @Pandagocrazy 3 месяца назад +2

      he never showed the results

    • @djairalert422
      @djairalert422 3 месяца назад +1

      Bro it sound their wasn’t a fixed rate of payment in place and that’s a problem, if everyone is gettin $10k a month for ex, then I don’t think it would be a problem like this.

  • @jamesharris913
    @jamesharris913 5 месяцев назад +53

    There’s a common denominator here “math” everybody ain’t lying on u

    • @mr.chedder1691
      @mr.chedder1691 2 месяца назад

      Maff used all those guys to get to the top, a typical jay z masonic move 💯, that's the masons biggest secret to get to the top is to use ppl

    • @yvngblacksmith
      @yvngblacksmith Месяц назад +1

      lol get off your knees, brother.

    • @Foenem521
      @Foenem521 Месяц назад

      That’s a bar.

  • @BeyondFacts25
    @BeyondFacts25 5 месяцев назад +350

    math said he only shoots 3 hours out of the day n work 2 days out the week.. Whatever they do with their free time to make money is on them.. same breath, “why is they still shooting bag talk?”😂

    • @callmekam22
      @callmekam22 5 месяцев назад +42

      Fam.. don't expect consistency here lol

    • @drdread9896
      @drdread9896 5 месяцев назад +69

      Shooting another show violates the contract!!!!!🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @urbanflavorz
      @urbanflavorz 5 месяцев назад +38

      He actually said they doing a show asking guests questions lol like he got some unique patent on a podcast. Delisional

    • @callmekam22
      @callmekam22 5 месяцев назад +25

      @drdread9896 violates the contract, but was fine if said show was on his network though....

    • @Mathhoffa
      @Mathhoffa 5 месяцев назад +55

      What part of we agreed they would stop bagfuel don’t y’all understand? It was part of our agreement. Check their channel they stopped for 6 months… what is so hard to understand???

  • @TwntyUp
    @TwntyUp 5 месяцев назад +36

    that boy math don’t wanna pay and don’t want people to work on other endeavors smh

    • @dorianhenderson3881
      @dorianhenderson3881 5 месяцев назад +3

      Exactly

    • @christopherbrock8913
      @christopherbrock8913 4 месяца назад +2

      Honestly I don't know what the hell is going on 🤣🤣 I been listening to this back and forth sh*t for a year and still don't know who is telling the truth - half of it sounds like a misunderstanding - jealousy is part of it - and not being loyal is the rest - this is some Young And The Restless, As The World Turns, Guiding Light sh*t

    • @6figuregainz856
      @6figuregainz856 27 дней назад

      You didn't watch it 😅😅😅 try watching it

  • @ItsNiiceTv
    @ItsNiiceTv 5 месяцев назад +55

    So Bigga Christmas bonus was getting back the money that he loaned out 😂😂

  • @kwsimmons215
    @kwsimmons215 5 месяцев назад +20

    Lesson: Learn how to run a business. Learn how to pay people. Learn payroll. Do not pay people out of pocket or cash app or zelle. Payroll and contracts. Learn professionalism. All these podcast that break up over money and communication have 2 things in common. One of those things is professionalism which includes contracts and pay. The other thing is …….

    • @treyturner9296
      @treyturner9296 3 месяца назад

      Factz! I would have not done anywork on that show without a contract, that would give me equity in the show, incentives and protection from any unprofessional bullshit. The problem is with our culture is we think it's just a favor just to pay someone for doing work. Pay people what you owe and what they are worth. Ontop of that all these platforms in entertainment all start out with the homeboy business model, which never works out in the long run. Where you work for your friend for free or a small amount of per diem . You just want to see your friend get an opportunity because he is like family. Your friend appreciates it until he finally starts to get traction and gets a big check for the work everyone put into the product, that he owns. He gets recognition but also the people around him gets recognition that sometimes exceeds what the owner gets. People get insecure and greedy, Then he doesn't want to pay what you're really worth. Your friend doesn't tell you up front that he doesn't want to pay you so he does or says little petty things to justify why you shouldn't be paid what you are worth, or starts to put restriction on what you do outside of the business to earn income. Once he see's there's a resistance from you then arguments occur, communication break downs and then all of a sudden you're the one getting kick off the show after you put sweat equity into it. These co-hosts on these show's say they are bosses but they don't act like bosses. Either you want to get paid for your services or just sit at the barbershop and talk your shit and not get paid. Make a choice however realize it comes with sacrifice. Math Hoffa is not going to let anyone get bigger than him on his platform nor is he going to want to pay someone so much that they have too much leverage.

  • @macarthurclutch2666
    @macarthurclutch2666 5 месяцев назад +133

    This guy here smh remember that url event in Texas and math was selling cds for 10 dollars and the kid gave him a 20 and he kept the whole 20 and the kid exposed him…That tells you everything you need to know.

    • @j.kisart6100
      @j.kisart6100 5 месяцев назад +5

      Facts!!!

    • @TheBiggaPic
      @TheBiggaPic 5 месяцев назад

      Pathetic

    • @kyngpapi
      @kyngpapi 5 месяцев назад +5

      Facts

    • @newelldavis1858
      @newelldavis1858 5 месяцев назад +15

      It’s called growth ..everybody kno Math “was” grimey ..he admitted it ..he has openly talked about evolving ..it happens

    • @TheNiners6949
      @TheNiners6949 5 месяцев назад

      That comment is stupid 🤣🤣 🤡

  • @bigtimetv9109
    @bigtimetv9109 5 месяцев назад +53

    Guest looking down at your shoes like wtf 😂😂😂😂

    • @michaelletona6228
      @michaelletona6228 5 месяцев назад +13

      I want a know who he talking bout 😂

    • @Pont3ll
      @Pont3ll 5 месяцев назад

      @@michaelletona6228he was talking about Heineken.

    • @FrankTownsendjr
      @FrankTownsendjr 5 месяцев назад +19

      Heineken Tony Yayo interview he mentioned his shoes 😂😂😂

    • @FUTUREWORLDFILMS
      @FUTUREWORLDFILMS 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@FrankTownsendjr😂😂😂😂😂I’m gonna go back and check

    • @RunWay416
      @RunWay416 5 месяцев назад +1

      Guest *

  • @88ntil
    @88ntil 5 месяцев назад +181

    Feels like Bigga had an issue every episode then cause dude just sat there like a statue most the time lol looking mad as hell

    • @vizdmc
      @vizdmc 5 месяцев назад +5

      Lmaooo

    • @gnosis7188
      @gnosis7188 5 месяцев назад +37

      Facts. I dont think he offered anything to the discussion.

    • @rcvolts1283
      @rcvolts1283 5 месяцев назад +2

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @saucyfaces
      @saucyfaces 5 месяцев назад +17

      Bigga has the heaviest energy ever 😂😂

    • @calbog1990
      @calbog1990 5 месяцев назад +16

      I didn't know why Bigga was on the show anyway? He bought no substance.

  • @TeeJMoFii1
    @TeeJMoFii1 5 месяцев назад +22

    As a Filmer and Cinematographer , people often take advantage of us and believe we should work for free in the building stages , eventually it gets old . HE ADMITTED TO NOT PAYING HIM . Him charging him 100k for the RAW footage (he can say equipment) is not extortion . HES CHARGING YOU FOR THE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY HE OWNS .

    • @TeeJMoFii1
      @TeeJMoFii1 5 месяцев назад +13

      If the contract wasn’t signed by both parties …… the person who pressed “record” owns all the rights to the footage .

    • @AbstractHomosapien
      @AbstractHomosapien 5 месяцев назад

      Facts. 98% of these dudes don’t even know what we go through but they believe these story teller all day.
      Nigga pull up the contract, name a number. He didn’t sign a nda for this I bet, so show the real.
      Also, Bigga made the right move and they chillin over there. Math big funny.

  • @capitano1360
    @capitano1360 5 месяцев назад +122

    Math takes no blame on any factors
    That’s how you know it ain’t right

    • @Bear_83
      @Bear_83 5 месяцев назад +13

      Hes the boss..its his business

    • @TeeJMoFii1
      @TeeJMoFii1 5 месяцев назад +15

      Real bosses know how to take accountability …

    • @tonyflipshouses
      @tonyflipshouses 5 месяцев назад +4

      Maybe he's not to blame.

    • @TheBiggaPic
      @TheBiggaPic 5 месяцев назад +2

      He pathetic truly

    • @TheBiggaPic
      @TheBiggaPic 5 месяцев назад +2

      Very sad and pathetic

  • @dannyhall1523
    @dannyhall1523 5 месяцев назад +65

    He was taking them shopping 😂😂😂

    • @shaheemshakur6719
      @shaheemshakur6719 5 месяцев назад +2

      Grown men son smh😂

    • @dskinner8757
      @dskinner8757 5 месяцев назад +16

      50 Cent: "What you just say?" 😂

    • @chadcapitol6674
      @chadcapitol6674 5 месяцев назад +8

      Doing the Diddy😢

    • @user-sf3tt6fr6u
      @user-sf3tt6fr6u 4 месяца назад

      There was never a problem taking your niggas or a friend shopping till fifty said that about diddy stfu ain’t nothing wrong with that. Have a mind of your own

    • @djairalert422
      @djairalert422 3 месяца назад

      Right I would’ve said pay me, I’ll go shopping for myself fam

  • @ChepzmusicTheGOD
    @ChepzmusicTheGOD 5 месяцев назад +54

    The dude interviewing is more interested on the weed than the actual interview with math lol

    • @argelissanchez3353
      @argelissanchez3353 5 месяцев назад +2

      your right, he's worried about the weed like damn bro

    • @klaybiggins4040
      @klaybiggins4040 5 месяцев назад +1

      Set yourself up ahead of time. He knows he’s a pothead.

    • @jezzysnowman1015
      @jezzysnowman1015 5 месяцев назад +1

      Sounds like a actual goat interviewing math 😂😂😂

    • @PeterGuirguess-kw8ph
      @PeterGuirguess-kw8ph 5 месяцев назад

      Annoying and distracting. He has no class. Smoking dope and rolling it he's not focused on what he's saying

  • @heybuddy7789
    @heybuddy7789 5 месяцев назад +26

    Math was the golden goose and these guys running game for short term hustle. Everybody didnt have same vision. Sounds like what nas went thru in QB.

  • @Lionhearted1991
    @Lionhearted1991 5 месяцев назад +14

    These 2 🥷🏾's are like Beavis & Butthead

  • @luisleonchicago
    @luisleonchicago 5 месяцев назад +11

    “Uuuuggggghhh huuuuuuuh” whole time not paying attention to sh*t 😂

    • @PeterGuirguess-kw8ph
      @PeterGuirguess-kw8ph 5 месяцев назад +1

      Annoying. .focused on the damn weed. He's just a yes man anyway

  • @Fearlessthoughts90
    @Fearlessthoughts90 5 месяцев назад +72

    What went wrong on everybody’s end was everyone was afraid they might get it fucked over so they try to be a step ahead, but it backfired. If everyone was transparent about what they’re doing or how they was feeling about certain situations I think the business could’ve kept going

    • @a.demetriusglover6761
      @a.demetriusglover6761 5 месяцев назад +3

      That's a different outlook

    • @BrooklynDon-vr1ui
      @BrooklynDon-vr1ui 5 месяцев назад +5

      Basically, they felt Math was gonna snake em

    • @a.demetriusglover6761
      @a.demetriusglover6761 5 месяцев назад +3

      @BrooklynDon-vr1ui the question is did he ? I don't believe he did from what he's saying.

    • @apelife9615
      @apelife9615 5 месяцев назад +5

      Why would u work with him then??? THEY THKNK HE OWES THEM SOMETHING.....CLOUT CHASING

  • @JPOWO
    @JPOWO 5 месяцев назад +12

    At the end of the day, Math is the leader. The buck stops with the leader. The boss gets celebrated when shit works, the boss is responsible when it don't. Math keeps having the same problem with quality employees. He is responsible.

    • @Mathhoffa
      @Mathhoffa 5 месяцев назад +3

      So don’t judge me when I get rid of people who are problems…

  • @Belwar56
    @Belwar56 5 месяцев назад +72

    Math always say he got recite and never show them 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @TeeJMoFii1
      @TeeJMoFii1 5 месяцев назад +7

      It’s a reason he’s not enforcing the contract .

    • @TSteele718
      @TSteele718 5 месяцев назад +9

      That's the spin move lol. He's capping.

    • @TSteele718
      @TSteele718 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@TeeJMoFii1cause it was non sense and not notorized

    • @thatguy2.09
      @thatguy2.09 5 месяцев назад +15

      Receipt** recite is repeat

    • @InForQuestioning2023
      @InForQuestioning2023 5 месяцев назад +5

      Man hell yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude can find a picture, but never proof he paid anyone!!!!!!!

  • @803cancer
    @803cancer 5 месяцев назад +122

    Paying Bigga to his security business and paying him to be on show is two different things. Regardless how he runs his business you cant run your business like his

    • @TheBiggaPic
      @TheBiggaPic 5 месяцев назад +11

      He at this point pathetic

    • @Rexaaay
      @Rexaaay 5 месяцев назад +9

      Dude said 2 things per episode anyway

    • @803cancer
      @803cancer 5 месяцев назад +25

      @@Rexaaay regardless of what he said, once he sat down and spoke he became a host. His secruity business is not the same as a host on a podcast. Bigga is a business owner who is also an employee of math. Math saw him as an employee that's why he paid him. He can't pay him for secruity and a host with the same check/ money. Gotta keep them separate unless their is a contract

    • @johngoncalves4665
      @johngoncalves4665 5 месяцев назад

      @@803cancera lot of people with business’s rather get paid through their business

    • @1takemedia238
      @1takemedia238 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@TheBiggaPicy'all brothers got to settled y'all difference's 🙏🏿💯

  • @saintcharles8057
    @saintcharles8057 5 месяцев назад +25

    When you start whistling for no reason after someone asks you a question, you're probably lying.

  • @shek32
    @shek32 5 месяцев назад +14

    “Sean Bigga, man of God” 😂😂😂

    • @LegendaryYoby
      @LegendaryYoby 5 месяцев назад +4

      Yayo had me Rollin!!! 🤣🤣

  • @Rizzlyricist
    @Rizzlyricist 5 месяцев назад +8

    I used to listen to Math Hoffa hen I was 66, and now I'm 13. This will forever be a classic.

  • @Ahksmaghribcafe
    @Ahksmaghribcafe 5 месяцев назад +8

    My first time here and just the fact that you're rolling up interviewing this is raw and straight to the point just like a convo between two homies I love it

  • @kevinbean7140
    @kevinbean7140 5 месяцев назад +8

    Ppl talking about "men shouldn't be watching other men's money." But "watching the money" is an essential part of contract negotiations. You shouldn't be ENVIOUS or COVETOUS, but you should be aware if you're helping to generate that money. Also, IMO, if they wanted to do Bag Fuel in addition to your pod, it shouldn't have been an issue. It's like telling someone if you work for me you can't create your own business on the side. That's not right. He just wanted them to build his house but neglect their own. I will say that if you're not a partner on paper in the Podcast you shouldn't be expecting Partner money.

  • @MrAT-ks4mj
    @MrAT-ks4mj 5 месяцев назад +30

    I fuck with Math heavy but as the Boss, he should know exactly what he paid Bigga off the top of his head- One number for Security. Another number for being a host of the Show.

    • @TeeJMoFii1
      @TeeJMoFii1 5 месяцев назад +7

      This how you know it’s cap lol

    • @jprincetv2332
      @jprincetv2332 5 месяцев назад +8

      FACTS PAYING BIGGA FOR SECURITY SERVICE AND WHAT YOU PAY HIM AS BEING A CO-HOST SHOULD NEVER INTERTWINE.. HIS SECURITY BUSINESS IS ONE THING AND WHAT HE DOES ON THE SHOW IS ANOTHER THING.. NOW THE ONLY THING I WILL GIVE MATH CREDIT ON IS THAT BIGGA DIDNT REALLY TALK LIKE THAT MOST OF THE TIME SO HE SHOULD OF JUST SAID HEY BIGGA I SEE U NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN BEING ON THE SHOW AS A CO-HOST SO HOW ABOUT I JUST PAY YOU FOR YOUR SECURITY SERVICES AND YOUR NO LONGER OBLIGATED TO TALK IF YOU DONT WANT TO ON THE SHOW.. YOU COOLD STILL SIT ON ON THE SHOW, YOU CAN ALSO SAY SOMETHING IF YOU CHOOSE TO BUT YOU DONT HAVE TO IF YOU DONT WANT TO.. THATS WHAT THE CONVERSATION SHOULD OF BEEN BUT NAH MATH WAS TRYNNA GET TWO THINGS FOR THE PRICE OF ONE A CO-HOST, & SECURITY LOL😂😂😂

    • @TSteele718
      @TSteele718 5 месяцев назад +3

      He's all cap.

    • @ddchoppa8803
      @ddchoppa8803 5 месяцев назад +4

      Y’all thinking naively. #1 he prolly didn’t wanna disclose the amount. As a boss you have to know when to hold ya tongue you can’t say too much. If he did disclose the amount the next person he’s hiring would know how much bigga was getting paid. Come on, Hoffa gotta play his cards correctly. Everybody wanna talk like a boss but don’t know how to be one. Hoffa knew what he was doing here.

    • @ddchoppa8803
      @ddchoppa8803 5 месяцев назад +2

      #2 As a boss especially in the business Hoffa is in. He’s paying a lot of ppl. people y’all don’t even see in the shop. If he can’t rm what he paid bigga off the top & has to go look for the exacts ion see nun wrong w that

  • @honorableadrian1818
    @honorableadrian1818 5 месяцев назад +18

    As a black business owner & son of a entrepreneur I understand maths perspective..My pops always gave my game about how your own friends & ppl that you call bro will always be noisy in your business..want to know how much you make or try to sabotage your business because they are jealous or hating..I stand with math 💯💯💯

    • @jahbless1
      @jahbless1 5 месяцев назад

      What black have to do with it?

  • @GrabinGears
    @GrabinGears 5 месяцев назад +51

    One thing I’ve learned in owning a couple of trucks is, friends and money don’t mix. Being a business owner is hard, especially if it’s friends involved.

    • @joshuacharles4403
      @joshuacharles4403 5 месяцев назад +13

      Ppl always say tht & i never Agree...
      Friends & Business Should Mix... Maybe ppl jus don't know their friends tht well 🤷‍♂️

    • @GrabinGears
      @GrabinGears 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@joshuacharles4403I agree to a point. I think you don’t know a friend’s work ethic

    • @joshuacharles4403
      @joshuacharles4403 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@GrabinGears That's true too... But even then, if it's True Friendship business should nvr destroy that. Jus make adjustments

    • @Harlem1mentality
      @Harlem1mentality 5 месяцев назад +3

      I disagree. The two should be separate and if you are going to hire a friend the boundaries have to be set from the jump. Our friendship doesn’t end if our business relationship doesn’t work. You have to be completely transparent if you are hiring a friend and let them know what is going on. So you have the communication and understanding. Also a friend should never get mad about business

    • @GrabinGears
      @GrabinGears 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@joshuacharles4403Well said bro 💯

  • @GroovyJayy_
    @GroovyJayy_ 5 месяцев назад +8

    "You said that?" LMAO Tiga mad funny with that. Not going to lie I be thinking the same thing.

  • @LaughHouseProductionLLC
    @LaughHouseProductionLLC 5 месяцев назад +16

    Wow it’s so sad how your own people can mess you over 💔 stay strong stay focused Math you have a gift with many talents and you deserve every blessing.

    • @countbuffalo6654
      @countbuffalo6654 5 месяцев назад +3

      If that was Math Hoffas “people” then why is he telling all of their business in front of an Asian man?

    • @QstormtheGod
      @QstormtheGod 5 месяцев назад

      @@countbuffalo6654ohhhhh

    • @ericrowland3246
      @ericrowland3246 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@countbuffalo6654It doesn’t matter who it’s in front of.

    • @GrabinGears
      @GrabinGears 5 месяцев назад

      @@ericrowland3246💯💯

    • @elmztana1201
      @elmztana1201 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@countbuffalo6654tiger is his people, he was literally in all the episodes at the start in the crowd . Yall just be talking

  • @ez-duz-it
    @ez-duz-it 5 месяцев назад +39

    What made it worse is that in the episode where Vlad came back the second time, the expensive security guard Bigga hired FELL ASLEEP, and Vlad himself caught him on camera and called him out 😂, they didn’t edit it out the interview or anything lol

    • @Mathhoffa
      @Mathhoffa 5 месяцев назад +15

      Exactly!!!

    • @lawdhimself2423
      @lawdhimself2423 5 месяцев назад +5

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @aw5347
      @aw5347 5 месяцев назад

      I remember that ish😂😂😂

  • @flyvernon7
    @flyvernon7 5 месяцев назад +15

    tiger made weed smokin look mad feindy ..... the weed was his favorite guest...lol

    • @PeterGuirguess-kw8ph
      @PeterGuirguess-kw8ph 5 месяцев назад +2

      I couldn't sit and talk to ANYONE doing that , focused on weed. Looked like a fiend.

  • @keithjennings4202
    @keithjennings4202 5 месяцев назад +7

    How he couldnt see the hate in the room?!?!?! i could see the hate in dude eyez and im in ST. LOUIS. Shout out Math

  • @jwd215
    @jwd215 5 месяцев назад +14

    The host isn't comprehending Math's answers, which is making his follow up questions sound like semantics.

    • @DavidPre7i
      @DavidPre7i 5 месяцев назад +5

      bro terrible at his job

    • @Youngdouda
      @Youngdouda 5 месяцев назад

      @@DavidPre7iterrible asf

    • @JeebyTube
      @JeebyTube 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@DavidPre7iion think he should smoke on camera

    • @PeterGuirguess-kw8ph
      @PeterGuirguess-kw8ph 5 месяцев назад

      He's not paying attention

    • @andreholmessr5464
      @andreholmessr5464 4 месяца назад

      Dude too busy trying blow out his brain witcthe trees

  • @workinprogress2077
    @workinprogress2077 5 месяцев назад +10

    To me this entire problem began when a working relationship starts with friends just hanging out and one dude seeing the bigger picture and getting the others involved for free (" Let's do this! We partners bro!!! that kind of talk is all at the begining) !! This dude didn't make it crystal clear to everyone how big this was gonna get..., so then when it does blow up, people like this guy start moving away from that group that worked for far less than they were worth. If he REALLY wanted to keep the team together he would of pushed for them to understand, but this guy is very competitive so he let them figure it out for themselves. A true boss is like a father to his workers and doesn't call workers his friends. Fathers do the right thing even when the kid doesn't think so or does some stupid ish. Then there is the thing about not wanting to owe anyone after they help you under a loose agreement. He knows all these people well enough to know how it would go- this is where this guy loses me completely- Enjoy the view from the top brother!

    • @user-sr1ko4cj3o
      @user-sr1ko4cj3o 5 месяцев назад +1

      True words 👑 you are a man of wisdom and honor 🔥

  • @jhallsociety
    @jhallsociety 5 месяцев назад +16

    I bet that smoking on that mic sounded good in homie’s mind.

    • @ericrowland3246
      @ericrowland3246 5 месяцев назад +3

      😂

    • @UnbiasedSports
      @UnbiasedSports 5 месяцев назад +6

      that shxt was annoying as hell!

    • @PeterGuirguess-kw8ph
      @PeterGuirguess-kw8ph 5 месяцев назад

      Both of these dudes are annoying. The whistling from this crybaby , china man smoking , and rolling

  • @papeperview
    @papeperview 5 месяцев назад +19

    Math act like he is known for "Getting FLY" he didn't dress clean until this PODCAST came about tbh

    • @dashonlive6623
      @dashonlive6623 5 месяцев назад +6

      I mean we could say that for most a lot of other hiphop podcasters lol Joe started wearing Amiri hats and dressing the owner of Zara’s

    • @derald614
      @derald614 5 месяцев назад

      Exactly but he was saying that's what had to be done now not that he always was that. He never claimed to be some fashion mogul.

  • @thebanksway3293
    @thebanksway3293 5 месяцев назад +53

    Crabs in a barrel. It isn’t Math this happens far too often in the Black community

    • @QstormtheGod
      @QstormtheGod 5 месяцев назад +1

      This ain’t a black issue it’s a human issue. Story tryna to marginalize us blacks you powdered pringle

    • @chapmanlouis803
      @chapmanlouis803 5 месяцев назад +1

      You statement is true but false in the Math situation

    • @C-Lyfe85
      @C-Lyfe85 5 месяцев назад +1

      Pay ya people.

    • @tegminelincoln5848
      @tegminelincoln5848 4 месяца назад

      Sad but all so true

  • @smokenewztv
    @smokenewztv 5 месяцев назад +26

    Math funny is hell 😂😂😂 that Bigga part had me crying 😂😂😂

    • @CharlieChopizi
      @CharlieChopizi 5 месяцев назад +1

      Sh*t hilarious.

    • @94shotson40
      @94shotson40 5 месяцев назад +2

      deadass the best part of the interview... listened to that part a couple of times 😂

    • @theybeonbody1309
      @theybeonbody1309 5 месяцев назад +1

      the whistle part got me in tears rn 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Ishbikes
      @Ishbikes 5 месяцев назад

      Yall laughing but no receipts were shown. *Y’all left that out*

    • @NebraskaPoliceDepartment
      @NebraskaPoliceDepartment 5 месяцев назад

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @DonSosa508
    @DonSosa508 5 месяцев назад +32

    Tiger a real one, never scared to ask the tough questions. Keep your foot on their neck, you’re one of the best interviewers out here.

    • @chicolo2631
      @chicolo2631 5 месяцев назад +2

      😂😂😂

    • @InForQuestioning2023
      @InForQuestioning2023 5 месяцев назад +2

      A “real one” because he asked a dude he knows well some obvious questions….? C’mon bro🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @Ishbikes
      @Ishbikes 5 месяцев назад

      He didn’t show those receipts though 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @richboy1456
    @richboy1456 5 месяцев назад +20

    its hillarious how he switched the topic from pretending he had receipts to trying to tarnish biggas business by making it look shady. Thats literally how all temp / employment agencies work

    • @Sheisty25
      @Sheisty25 5 месяцев назад +7

      Literally every legit security company makes significantly more than the guards. Also, what thw company makes is not discussed with the guards.

    • @Ishbikes
      @Ishbikes 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@Sheisty25right? He tryna make it seem like Bigga scheming.

    • @PeterGuirguess-kw8ph
      @PeterGuirguess-kw8ph 5 месяцев назад +2

      It's called normal business. When he started whistling he found it, he was deciding NOT to show it

  • @TonyMac183
    @TonyMac183 5 месяцев назад +3

    Yea I always noticed bigga gives off the I’m miserable with life vibes

  • @bostonrich1871
    @bostonrich1871 5 месяцев назад +10

    heavy is the head that wears the crown

    • @dskinner8757
      @dskinner8757 5 месяцев назад +1

      Heavy are the balls that don't have a woman 😂

  • @WOUNDSOFPASSION
    @WOUNDSOFPASSION 5 месяцев назад +9

    Asian dude need to improve his interviewing skills. He interrupting Math in the middle of important points, rolling weed--not looking at his guest when the guest is being emotionally vulnerable.
    Math, this was a terrible idea. You should have given a smaller channel like 10ToesDown TV a chance.

    • @tshepomaruatona7134
      @tshepomaruatona7134 5 месяцев назад +3

      That's the problem with these blunt rolling or drinking podcasts, they lack focus! And now everyone wants to hate on Shay Shay when he listens to his guests and keeps focused.

    • @PeterGuirguess-kw8ph
      @PeterGuirguess-kw8ph 5 месяцев назад

      I lost respect for Math. He should have set him straight ...like maybe we should do this interview another time

  • @taysmith9321
    @taysmith9321 5 месяцев назад +4

    😂😂😂😂 math bigga impression had me spit out my water i was drinking dey sheep 😂😂😂

  • @e.e6669
    @e.e6669 4 месяца назад +2

    Money doesn’t always change people but it changes the people around you always.

  • @chad_Luciano
    @chad_Luciano 5 месяцев назад +54

    In my opinion I felt his former co workers was pocket watching Math instead of trying to renegotiate numbers and figure out a solution that works best for all parties

    • @tshepomaruatona7134
      @tshepomaruatona7134 5 месяцев назад +1

      They should take dame dash advice. Never pocket watch, it ruins business

  • @official6arz
    @official6arz 4 месяца назад +2

    Like Mase said "We fell out because my homies thought I was making money I wasn't making".

  • @industryhotel
    @industryhotel 5 месяцев назад +3

    90% of keeping a job is making other people comfortable. Big facts‼️

  • @tonybone132
    @tonybone132 5 месяцев назад +4

    Bigga wanted to get “flewd out”

  • @HASSANCAMPBELL
    @HASSANCAMPBELL 5 месяцев назад +14

    HOFFA

    • @Uppercutpodcast
      @Uppercutpodcast  5 месяцев назад +4

      Salute HASSAN

    • @youngjd640
      @youngjd640 5 месяцев назад +5

      something, something just AINT RIGHTTTTT‼️‼️‼️‼️😂😂😂

    • @kimbell7988
      @kimbell7988 5 месяцев назад

      @@Uppercutpodcast good work my g head ice made me known u offical

  • @menaceofmayhem
    @menaceofmayhem 4 месяца назад +3

    The time Math spent searching for what he paid Bigga was ridiculous.

  • @seckahsalah2457
    @seckahsalah2457 5 месяцев назад +17

    This looks like a case of "Homeboy Entertainment" a economic syndrome that allows "friends" to be entitled or feel entitled when the money starts coming in. Math should get a financial advisor to be a "liaison" with his future employees where they don't need to go directly to him. Because it seems that it is too much of a headache as he states in the interview. Bottom-line if Bigga provided security he should get paid because that is his company's income and it can be distributed how both party's feel fit. Math shouldn't talked Bigga's business tactics because that can lead to a lawsuit for "defamation" towards his company and that is a serious allegation I'm surprised Math spoke about that. Math has a lot of potential I feel he needs a better business staff around him to advise him that its "Business" not "Personal". Great content wish everybody blessings!!

  • @karldef892
    @karldef892 3 месяца назад +1

    Math was busy taking them Diddy shopping the whole time😂😂

  • @KatoOnTheTrack1
    @KatoOnTheTrack1 5 месяцев назад +21

    It has to be Heineken he’s talking about getting gear for…

    • @1Est87
      @1Est87 5 месяцев назад +11

      Definitely he dress like a G unit member

    • @zerozero6265
      @zerozero6265 5 месяцев назад +2

      Pretty much all of them except 1 or 2 ppl n math

  • @malcolmhill1040
    @malcolmhill1040 5 месяцев назад +3

    Why people think buying a grown man some clothes on really change his life .

    • @malcolmhill1040
      @malcolmhill1040 5 месяцев назад

      Keep the clothes niggas need that bread for the fam

  • @veligotti
    @veligotti 5 месяцев назад +16

    Bigga being mad at Loon is wild that man did mad time and turned his life around if Bigga felt some type of way he should’ve addressed it like a man he preaches peace and god but can’t peace it up with a dude who spent decades in prison? If that’s a true story I’m disappointed in Bigga, Loon is one of the good ones.

  • @bigtimetv9109
    @bigtimetv9109 5 месяцев назад +5

    Drop the whole episode this shit entertaining 😂😂😂

    • @johncombs1061
      @johncombs1061 5 месяцев назад

      This is the whole episode ain’t it😂😂

  • @p2since1998
    @p2since1998 5 месяцев назад +3

    That smoke move was impressive 14:47 😂

    • @dutchmaster1607
      @dutchmaster1607 5 месяцев назад

      lol I just noticed that 💨🅾️

  • @MrBojangles2020
    @MrBojangles2020 3 месяца назад +1

    Math stared at his phones for 5min he dont know what to look for😂

  • @srballislife9546
    @srballislife9546 5 месяцев назад +9

    FROM THE SEOUL

  • @phettywappharmaceuticalsll8842
    @phettywappharmaceuticalsll8842 5 месяцев назад +2

    The fifteen minutes looking for a receipt kinda killed the flow lol

  • @94shotson40
    @94shotson40 5 месяцев назад +5

    Dope how Mac plays devil advocate on the regular.... imagine a grown ass man TEXTING you talking about if you still wanna fight, I'm around...TF??😂😂😂

    • @twoskoops74
      @twoskoops74 5 месяцев назад

      Whose Mac?

    • @newelldavis1858
      @newelldavis1858 5 месяцев назад +4

      China Mac ..who’s not this Asian dude😂😂😂😂

    • @94shotson40
      @94shotson40 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@newelldavis1858 🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️😂

  • @nsbrooklyntv
    @nsbrooklyntv 5 месяцев назад +17

    I refuse to believe math wasn’t the problem, this happened way too many times to math and he always plays the victim and blames everyone.

  • @IMDATGUYINMD
    @IMDATGUYINMD 5 месяцев назад +9

    Math said some Real shit about keeping a job.....just keep people comfortable because i fukk up often at work but get many breaks...because everyone loves me....Real Talk.....thats me

  • @letstalkaboutit9730
    @letstalkaboutit9730 5 месяцев назад +7

    Bigga definitely has a horrible attitude.... him sitting over there crying is common

  • @honorableadrian1818
    @honorableadrian1818 5 месяцев назад +5

    I blame the pandemic…Because it gave employees the opportunity to want to be bosses..brown nosing..not understanding business ethics & economics..Math was blessed by god to be a boss ..His ppl have shows and are not doing numbers..so that lets you know math is handling his situation correctly 💯💯 I stand with his on business..Blessings!!

    • @TheYellowBrickRoadTV
      @TheYellowBrickRoadTV 5 месяцев назад

      You are dead on about your assessment. When you said, “It gave employees the opportunity to want to be bosses…brown nosing..not understanding business ethics & economics”. Yeah for some employees out there to be able to transition in leadership. But they have to work like hell to sustained that position. Peace bruh, stay grinding! 🫵🏿🫡💯

    • @nomanejane5766
      @nomanejane5766 3 месяца назад

      Math don't know ish abt being a boss.

  • @Sheisty25
    @Sheisty25 5 месяцев назад +2

    1) There is a disagreement with paying Bigga/his company for security. Bigga sees that as being separate from beeing on the show and Math sees it differently. 2) Math sees access, gifts, bonuses, favors etc as payment, but most of the other hosts havw seen it differently.
    A lot of this seems to be apart of learning things on the fly as things are taking off.

  • @WOUNDSOFPASSION
    @WOUNDSOFPASSION 5 месяцев назад +5

    Kept FAT Joe waiting? That's ignorant and it's a lack of respect for your guest's time.

  • @user-nl9me3er7w
    @user-nl9me3er7w 5 месяцев назад +2

    i laughed at when he said. the guy that dont talk wants a podcast lol

  • @Chosen1510
    @Chosen1510 5 месяцев назад +6

    It always 2 sides to EVERY story. Glad math cleared things up

    • @antman21555
      @antman21555 5 месяцев назад

      Did he clear it up or did he deflect and not take any kinda accountability for all these hosts leaving his show. He is obviously the problem in all these situations. He the only common denominator 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @FunkDoobie903
      @FunkDoobie903 5 месяцев назад

      3 sides, both sides and the truth.

    • @ST58432
      @ST58432 5 месяцев назад

      @@antman21555 people so naive man smh

    • @Chosen1510
      @Chosen1510 5 месяцев назад

      @@ST58432 people like you

    • @UnbiasedSports
      @UnbiasedSports 5 месяцев назад

      he didn't clear everything FOOLISH ONE. he just gave the other side. Too many men like yourself with women tendencies How you favor math story over bigga is dumb

  • @seanmoore9878
    @seanmoore9878 4 месяца назад +2

    He telling grown ass men to pick out anything you want. lmao

  • @silentambitionbronxgold2410
    @silentambitionbronxgold2410 5 месяцев назад +20

    I knew Champ was suspiciously a lemon when he playfully, but seriously asked Yayo or Dame Dash to give him some bread on the show and Yayo looked at him like he was dayroom 🥷🏼….

    • @orlandomolina940
      @orlandomolina940 5 месяцев назад +4

      I thought that was dame dash unless he did it to yayo too

    • @silentambitionbronxgold2410
      @silentambitionbronxgold2410 5 месяцев назад +5

      You probably right. Got me thinking about it now 🤔 still that was some bozo ish….

    • @jman1562001
      @jman1562001 5 месяцев назад +2

      Word is Champ still got the Truck 🚚 lol😂😂😂

    • @elmztana1201
      @elmztana1201 5 месяцев назад

      Lol no way !

    • @orlandomolina940
      @orlandomolina940 5 месяцев назад +1

      "Can I have 100k sir" champ

  • @TheBulletzgottishow20
    @TheBulletzgottishow20 5 месяцев назад +10

    Math was wrong to do them dudes like that man they had a dope movement

    • @elmztana1201
      @elmztana1201 5 месяцев назад

      Nah what u mean. Listening to this they look like snakes

    • @TheBulletzgottishow20
      @TheBulletzgottishow20 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@elmztana1201 nah math ain’t telling the whole truth everybody can’t be snakes

    • @Seefumccloud
      @Seefumccloud 5 месяцев назад

      Y'all mf's crazy 🤣 how tf you come up with that conclusion from watching this interview in its entirety WITH receipts? Make it make sense

    • @TheBulletzgottishow20
      @TheBulletzgottishow20 5 месяцев назад

      @ChaseRoyale bro he the problem

  • @mcm2678
    @mcm2678 5 месяцев назад +2

    I like how u counter his points real journalism bro u did homework on him so when he said something u were able to hit back with knowledge of the subject

  • @painterpainting7056
    @painterpainting7056 5 месяцев назад +7

    Fire interview

  • @user-rn3cp1bd2e
    @user-rn3cp1bd2e 4 месяца назад +1

    Da bro Hoffa CERTIFIED RN4L😤💰🥶🤞🏾💙💪🏾💯

  • @rmdglobal6268
    @rmdglobal6268 5 месяцев назад +3

    Some of you in the comments cannot are not bosses and can never fathom from the perspective of a leader or boss.. I feel you Math. Time tells all. Respect to dude for asking the right questions. 💯

    • @dorianhenderson3881
      @dorianhenderson3881 5 месяцев назад

      Bro, he ain't no boss paying people on cash app. Smh

  • @bmitchell2624
    @bmitchell2624 Месяц назад

    The whistling Battle was the best part

  • @bkyungplaya
    @bkyungplaya 5 месяцев назад +4

    Math is always the victim in every scenario..theres no way damn near 8 ppl leave within that short amount of time and its not him. This is no difference from ppl quitting McDonalds..the lack of accountability in ANY situation speaks for itself.

    • @MonqueJ
      @MonqueJ 5 месяцев назад

      What he do to make them leave

    • @t33mc
      @t33mc 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@MonqueJ Mis fit, cortez, hip hop is real, hynaken, space ghost, sean bigg, esso, hollow da don, serius, dose, dizaster, taxstone, Smack, if you do not see a pattern, just go ahead and wrap you lips around his u know what and head bop.

  • @karateflix
    @karateflix 5 месяцев назад +2

    Not gonna lie.. the part with how he paid Bigga was foul. Paying for security isn’t paying to be on the show. Bigga getting middle man money is supposed to happen that way. He is subcontracting security.

  • @cameronfinnen9123
    @cameronfinnen9123 5 месяцев назад +4

    Bosses shouldn't boss off of emotions. The main thing to do is protect the business legally!!

  • @jamesrey6429
    @jamesrey6429 5 месяцев назад +2

    Tiger a real one. Math searching for info he says he has but doesnt. Lmao

  • @bostonrich1871
    @bostonrich1871 5 месяцев назад +3

    My boy tiga gettin high asf

  • @bwayne1124
    @bwayne1124 5 месяцев назад +2

    Dog...roll up all the blunts before the interview please!!😅😅😅

  • @bigc3geminitx40
    @bigc3geminitx40 5 месяцев назад +5

    Can’t say go make your bread how you make your bread, then get mad when Esso and Ha start trying to make their own bread.. if you pay attention this Goofy exposes himself all the time!!! 🤡

    • @Mathhoffa
      @Mathhoffa 5 месяцев назад +2

      They agreed to stop doing bagfuel 🤡

  • @mrfeatherstonebsc
    @mrfeatherstonebsc 5 месяцев назад +1

    When he hit that.. "you ain't got it math"
    I wanted to keep watching.

  • @jrlyons5316
    @jrlyons5316 5 месяцев назад +14

    Math a real dude his success got people being greedy

    • @kenroydaly8608
      @kenroydaly8608 5 месяцев назад

      All of them right?

    • @Harlem1mentality
      @Harlem1mentality 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@kenroydaly8608I think so. I think it was too much ego. For everyone involved. I think that the pod peaked and Money went up. They had a contract and math obligations to that contract was up held. But they always talk about bad deals on the pod so of course Mfers felt some type of way. They could have renegotiated the deal. Math could have said look we up right now I’ll give yall a bonus until it time to re-up appease everyone for a bit then when it’s time we cut ties.

    • @joseocciano1939
      @joseocciano1939 5 месяцев назад

      too much ego, and the end of the day they were 4 catz that could be replaced Bigga hardly spoke and the other 3 were interesting but not THAT interesting Mecca and Math drive the narrative @@Harlem1mentality

    • @Edward.E.Nigma.
      @Edward.E.Nigma. 5 месяцев назад

      Math.....get off your burner account and get to work

  • @babycrillz
    @babycrillz 5 месяцев назад +2

    Math tough and all that but he ain’t the only one. Any job I worked at, I made it known don’t play with my money cuz I don’t work for free and it can go another way. This dude purposely don’t pay none of his people what they owed and think it’s all good. He ain’t met the right one yet, cuz can’t do that to everyone

  • @buffstudwell646
    @buffstudwell646 5 месяцев назад +4

    I'm more shocked Math trusted dudes that he wasn't friends with or that didn't come up with him

    • @Mathhoffa
      @Mathhoffa 5 месяцев назад +5

      My friends aren’t good interviewers

    • @1takemedia238
      @1takemedia238 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@MathhoffaSkeamo need a job my brother 💪🏾💯🙏🏿

  • @SKARFACEVIDEOS
    @SKARFACEVIDEOS 5 месяцев назад +3

    MATH HOFFA seem like a real one,kept it 100

  • @702pow
    @702pow 5 месяцев назад +2

    "Nigha,you got covid!" 😂😂

  • @mykman1895
    @mykman1895 5 месяцев назад +8

    I don’t know tiger but he seems like a super humble dude I respect it

  • @ibeatbox4557
    @ibeatbox4557 5 месяцев назад +1

    at this point it doesn't matter everybody is in their own corner doing their own now, success to everyone