'The Vampire Diaries' Season 8 Recap w/ Michael Malarkey | EW’s BINGE | Entertainment Weekly
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- EW's Samantha Highfill chats with 'The Vampire Diaries' executive producer Julie Plec, writer Brett Matthews, and series star Michael Malarkey about the final season of the beloved series.
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I knew that kat wasn't gonna join any of these because of how she was treated in the past but I kinda had a bit of hope that she might. Well I'm still glad that they did this and we got to see almost all of the original cast💞
ME TOO I WAS HOPING TOO
Same!!! Kat and Bonnie deserve the world ❤️
@@Anna-xi8hu SAME
Right I was like the same way I was like oh I know she’s not gonna join the entire cast this year besides her and honestly can you blame her
They probably didn’t ask her.
I hated Enzo’s death because Bonnie always seemed to constantly be sacrificing everything and getting the short end of the stick. She deserved some love and a happy ending
So did Stefan but no one’s complaining about his death.
@@TheeDionysus i think stefan demon, klaus elijah etc they killed lot of people not for blood, sometimes for revenge, for fun etc. So they deserve death... I don't know why people want those vampires should alive.. In Case of enzo right after he turned into vampire he was taken for torturing. He also killed people mostly 8 season when he was possesed.. Killing Tom avery by enzo was unforgeable that he has done.. For me out of all vampires enzo deserve to live.. iam with ester, "no one should live that long"
@@TheeDionysusnot like bonnie, he lived for almost 200 yrs, bon was like 20 smth and has been losing people since she was 16
I'm so used to Michael's British accent that listening to him speak in an American accent is very unfamiliar to me!
Mee too😭😭.. I was like this is not familiar 2 me..this is not the Enzo that I know🙂🙂 but eeet is what eeet is 🙃
Both accents sound so sexy
I had no clue he wasn't British 🤦♀️
Hopefully they do ones on The Originals as well
It's needed
I would love for that to be their next series
I get that Michael Malarkey means well when defending Enzo's death but... No... Just no. Doing this to Bonnie's character once more was one step too far. She has lost someone or something in almost every single season of the show starting from season 1, starting from the very beginning. She lost her entire family one by one, she lost her then-boyfriend several times and in many ways, she lost her own life saving people and then in the end, the writers still ripped her of her soulmate? Yes, there's no justice in life, yes, this is only fiction but what message does that send to young girls (or boys) who see themselves in Bonnie?
Respectfully. It says what you mentioned. Life is a son of a gun. This whole show is about heart ache. Elena LITERALLY lost all of her family. Her parents, Jenna, John, Jeremy, Alaric, and even Isabel on some level. I'm not bothered by one character having more loss than another. Not even when they are the "magic" fix for most every problem. In my mind it makes them even more the hero. To live such a tragic life and still chose to be the good they want to see, is more powerful than a nice ending. For me, if I want to see a happy ending I'll watch a Lego movie. When I watch a dark series about Vampires. Bring on the death.
I see bonnie being Enzo's soulmate, but not enzo being Bonnies. Bonnies is Jeremy and Jeremys is bonnie.
Thank youuuu 💯
To all the people mad about Kat not being there.. there are videos and posts that talk about her mistreatment behind the scenes you can look up. Don’t blame them for not “getting” kat on the recap podcast.
I think the problem is most people are wondering if they even asked her/included her or wanted her there in the first place or if she actively turned the interview down herself.
suggestion for the original's binge:
season one with charles michael davis and claire holt,
season two with danielle campbell and yufus gatewood,
season three with leah pipes and daniel gillies,
season four with phoebie tonkin and riley voelkel,
season five with danielle rose russel and joseph morgan.
i feel like having them in this order would serve extremely well each actor's character storylines:
we would have charles and claire in season one, because beks was always kind of the connecting point between tvd and to, even if the main character is klaus, while marcel acts as the villain (in a kind of way that reminds of katherine in tvd, even if different), and their characters have a history that will be the tie to many storylines;
in season two danielle and yufus as the two main witches of the serie, both of them with extremely interesting developments during the years and especially in season two, since yufus gets to play someone that has control of someone else that later will be such an important part of the puzzle, while davina is going through a lot and at the end of which she will be the new reagent. also both of them are connected, since yufus is portraing the brother of danielle's role's love interest, and since vincent will then be kind of her mentor, in a way;
in season three we would have leah, of which character has now become a fully involved in the supernatural world and is a fundamental part of how things go, while daniel's elijah has, too, a lot to process, and is also somehow one of the reasons of their being all in trouble, while also developing the relationship with hayley;
in season four we have phoebie's hayley, who is now a super mom of a super child while also having to find thw way to bring her family back. during the season we can see her relationship with elijah growing, that will be kind of her stone when her daughter life is in danger. with phoebie we have riley, whose character is now fully a devoted part of the family after such a life, and during this season we can see her character evolve, find love and having to take extreme decisions in her path to protect everyone she loves;
finally, in season five we havd joseph's klaus and danielle's hope, the real main characters around which every single episodes was rotating around. this season we can see the length to which all the family, but especially klaus, can go to to keep hope as safe as possible, while also seeing the consequences these actions have on hope herself and her relationships with the people around her.
i think this would be a fantastic serie of videos/episodes of binge, and with the addition, obviously, of julie and/or writers they would be so so so amazing, honestly. i believe this serie you created, 'binge', is a great idea but needs to be developed properly for it not to be a wasted potential, and i feel like yes, maybe there could be difficulties in producing it this way but it would be so worth it and would make justice to the serie so much and to the fans, who will probably never be able to have this experience ever otherwise, and whom you could make extremely happy with just this action.
also, if i may add, please (!) ask about the comparison between the original tvd books and the concept of the original, but most importantly ask to the actora about their challenging moments during the whole serie, such as daniel's amnesia period, or charles portayal of marcel-davina or his villain-ally-family role, or yufus' multiple characters and so on.
ps. thank you for bringing us these episodes of tvd binge, even with all its flaws. it was beautiful (great choice of the host! she was super kind and involved and informed, and felt really real instead of a host that barely know what the topic it)!
I really hope they do a The Originals recaps
I loved that Brett addressed the fondness for the set and that it was hard to leave. I could imagine how that could feel.
I enjoyed this trip down memory lane with one podcast episode per season. Particularly with Sam moderating. Excited to see a similar breakdown for other shows in the future.
I’m glad Julie addressed some of the rumors and takeaways about representation on the show directly. People are going to take her “apology” however they want, but that felt like a sincere attempt to address it.
She said something, so I guess that’s something. Moving forward, when she’s in a position, hopefully she will do better.
@@speaktruthpeace1612 exactly that... TVD was shoot in another time of society
@@maydelin21 Maybe the first few seasons yeah. But honestly after 2015 there should have been a significant change. But it stayed the same and the show did end in 2017.
I agree it seemed sincere even if it was a little out of the blue 'cos i can't remember if there was a segway into it. Still, it's a good step and to be fair, i think some other people should apologise or try to have a conversation with kat graham as well. I had no idea how badly she was treated until I saw a video about it but the signs were there. Her character didn't seem to get as much as the others and there was visible discomfort in some interviews. I feel sad she hasn't said much on it or feels comfortable talking about it I guess. Hopefully one day she might. At least the fans are very supportive.
If the apology isn't accepted, it still remains an apology which wasn't accepted. It's funny to think that as recently as 10 years ago can be seen as a "different time" but I appreciate her saying this publicly and acknowledge that people were trying to talk to her and she didn't listen. I wanted to see so much more of the witch world, as well as the werewolf world through Bonnie & Tyler, even if I understand I am not a television writer and am not therefore trained in the skills of tv narrative story-building and it would risk potentially overcomplicating a tv show aimed at YA. I was in my mid twenties and had devoured the books as a teenager.
"I owe it all to Stefan."
I would like to personally thank Kat Graham for her contribution to this show. TVD is literally nothing without our heroic witch Bonnie.
P.S I would love to watch one of these binges of The 100.
Agree, she did an amazing job in the show and giving her a main role in the last three seasons was the best thing that they could have done. She's an amazing actress and I'm glad that now she has the recognition that she should have had earlier.
Yes!! Loved Bonnie ❤️ and the 100!! I want to hear a very good explanation for writing Bellamy off the way they did 🤬😂
Michael can try to defend his characters death but Bonnie had dealt with enough grief by the end, she deserved a happy ending and frankly so did Enzo. Just very disappointing
Bonnie still got screwed in the Legacies musical so I don't think that lesson trickled down completely.
I really want to know what Stefan did to deserve death while Damon didn't ? Stefan was always the one that suffered. He was 10 when his mother died, at 16 his first love abandoned him ( with reason ofc but that he gets to know later on), at 17 he was compelled by Katherine to be abused and Damon was rather interested in getting her than understanding what his brother was going through, then he died, became a ripper, he turned Damon into a vampire ( who already wanted to turn but with katherine yet he guilt trips Stefan for over century), he suffered through ripper rampage and the only person who helped him, Lexi, was killed by Damon. He found love in Elena but Damon was constantly sabotaging that ( while when Delena were in relationship Stefan respected it). Damon falls in love with Elena once Katherine says she doesn't love him ( how ironic), Elena cheats on him by kissing Damon in S2, Stefan again becomes a ripper to save Damon but he was busy flirting with Elena and declaring his love for her, he has the least regards for his brother to get with his ex-girlfriend to bed just after the break up driving him away from his own house, he drowns in the quarry for the entire summer when Damon was rather busy playing house with Elena. When Stefan lost his memory Elena did everything to lead him on and then shatter his heart again, Damon cared least about Stefan's ptsd even after seeing the effects ( while when Damon came out of the Phoenix stone hell Stefan actively tried to help), Care and Katherine helps him and yet Damon judges him for sleeping with katherine? Damon was the one that killed Enzo's girl maggie and left him in that fire yet he hates Stefan ? Kills Ivy ? Is the reason Sarah dies ? Stefan dies once in S5 to save Care. When he finally got Care in S7 again to save Damon he got marked by Rayna and had to leave his happiness behind again while Damon decided to dessicate in a coffin rather than helping Stefan, he dies again in S7 when Rayna stabs him with the sword, the entire trauma in Marty's body and again almost dies, in S8 when he was finally happy and engaged he sells his soul to Cade to save the twins, damon ruins that one 24 hour that he wanted to spend with Care on Christmas, he becomes the ripper again which he hates and Damon suddenly acts as if he cares ? He wanted to escape hell on the first place so he gives the idea of giving his soul to Cade. Caroline gives back the engagement ring. Everyone including Care works to bring Damon back to normal but no one tries to do the same to Stefan. He kills Enzo without humanity ( It was still wrong and for me his saddest kill because Bonnie deserved the love though she marries someone named Smithfield later), becomes human when he wanted to spend an eternity with Caroline, kills cade to save his brother, is full of regrets and guilt and finally dies for Damon on the very same day that he finally got married to someone who loved him without any conditions and yet he's not the better man ? And deserves to die ?
No wonder Paul wesley was done playing Stefan, his character was screwed over the most.
@@Hi-cq2hm God I get it you are a Ian's fan but that doesn't mean you need to stick him in every where. Ian has mentioned time and again that Damon has done countless wrong things and how he wanted Damon to die as well. I am sorry but in all comic cons I just see Ian cutting everyone and answering other people's questions specially Paul's.
@@Hi-cq2hm actually Paul wanted his character to die.
@@Hi-cq2hm You do know right that you are replying under my comment ? I get it you hate Stefan and Paul but its been 8 videos now. Stop maybe ? In no interview has Paul told he was sick of playing Stefan, he had worked way too hard to get his role through multiple auditions, he wanted to try new things with his character and was happy with Ripper Stefan and everything hence. You find Stefan boring, good for you but without him neither Damon nor Elena would be alive.
@@Hi-cq2hm Paul on his podcast with Candice and Kayla told that he hadn't even warmed up to the idea of being able to play Stefan until the end of S2 so Julie saying that makes no sense. I would rather believe the person who played the character over someone who messes everything up.
Paul and Ian always told that in real life that Paul is the pessimist one while Ian is the optimist one, so he was always happy on set and used to cheer everyone up.
In every video of Tvd's Season recaps you keep bad mouthing Stefan and Paul, calling him boring and all of it when its all about choice. I love Stefan and not much Damon because I did not find the character interesting much. You love Damon and that's great too but it doesn't excuses all the wrong doings of the character just like me loving Stefan doesn't excuse him killing Enzo.
@@Hi-cq2hm You are really way too obsessed with Ian to even look into anything else. Anyways, I am done trying to reason with you and would like to end this in a good place. The show is over. Both Ian and Paul are happy in their lives and unlike you they don't compete with each other. Even though I am a Paul stan I am not going to hate on Ian like you because that's childish. Also, you can check any of the comments section of all the old comic cons and even recent joint convictions of them, its all dominated by Paul.
2:12 ENZO AND KATHERINE?????? “maybe a little something in there” OMG WHAT
Lowkey tho I ship
@@ChongChin me too lol but bonenzo>>
KAT AS IN KAT GRAHM WHO PLAYS BONNIE??
@@hellokitty-rt9gw no Katharine Pierce😂
If y'all think Kat was gonna be in one of these podcast with Julie Plec being in every single one then you must not be aware of the shit Kat went through with this show and the tension between certain people.
They literally were together in a party like 2 months ago
@@suripanta1924 They were at the same party or they were hanging out together?
@@Hi-cq2hm nope, no idea 🤷🏻♀️
They expected Kat to put aside how she was treated on the show and come on to talk with Julie Plec. Yet Julie Plec could never set aside her negative bias when it came to her mistreatment of Bonnie and the limitations she put on Bonnie due to her being black.
@@suripanta1924 If they were indeed at the same party,. Kat may have just chosen to be friendly. Especially if Julie Plec was the one who approached her. Just because they happened to be at the same party, does not negate the mistreatment that Kat Graham was put through while she was on TVD. You don't even know if they planned to go to the same party or if it was just a coincidence that they ran into each other unplanned and that Kat just choose to be nice and friendly. Kat has spoken out about the mistreatment that she and the character of Bonnie has went through on TVD. And said how she wasn't even allowed to feel comfortable wearing her natural hair while on the set of TVD.
Kat was surely invited and she must have said no and she was so right for it
Well we don't know if she actually was. I wish I knew I wanted to see her the most...
My god Kat. Shooting on a plantation, the day after the 2016 election, where your character experiences yet another loss at the hands of "friends" .... My heart. Such a disservice to her as a Black woman playing the only Black main character on the show.
Seeing Wole Parks in Superman & Lois really makes me wanna rewatch his stuff as Cade because his performance as Steel is one of the best parts of S&L
I just notice that he was the one who played Cane. I didn’t even realize that John Henry Irons and Cade are the same person lol
So Bonnie lost everyone she loved in service for Elena and the gang and what did she get in return??? Well she did get to travel in the end so...guess that makes up for it. 🙄🙄🙄#justiceforBonnie Honestly, loved the show but looking back the treatment of her character on the show is just too awful to think about.
Damon and Stefan had known each other for the longest for almost 200 years. For Damon to lose Stefan like that... oh, poor Damon. No wonder he ran to him the second he could. #Stamon forever 🙌🏼
One of the best actors on TVD! Just wished that something would have come from Michael & Bonnie other than his demise! Wonderful show...In the end BRAVO for everyone involved!
It wouldve been better if you had nina and all the other cast members for this season 8 recap that could have been bloody epic😩
I LOVED when you guys did this interview/binge watch series! I re watch this playlist regularly. I am still hoping for you guys to do The Originals like this and even Legacies. I saw you did a short one video thing on Legacies which i also love but now that the show is over I hope you can do a series like this one!
glad to see julie plec take accountability to the lack of black presentation on tvd lol
I think the fact that kat hasn’t been in any of these proves that what happened with julie was worse than we thought
I heard the worst of it was with Caroline Dries or whatever her last name is.
Exactly. Kat was also apart of the main cast for 8 seasons, but they got Michael who joined the cast in season 5? 🤡 It’s possible that Kat was maybe too busy or something but still, if she did come on one of these things I really think it would have proved that nothing big was going on but now …
Life is a classroom. I really enjoyed this series of interviews.
I want to see one for other shows. Julie is so articulate! You can tell she’s passionate about the writing.
MICHAEL'S SHIRT!!! DUDE I LOVE YOUUU😭❤
4 years later and we still aren’t going to address the wig???LMAO
It's a secret we didn't see it🤫
the originals recap would be amazinggg
Am I the only one obsessed with Michael’s voice? Omg
Michael had no shirtless scenes on tvd. Why?
You should check out his music then, it's really good, his singing voice is amazing too! His song "Scars" even was in a tvd episode :)
@Andre' Davis But that was not enough I wanted see.more, like they showed Damon's.
I can always see some justification for Enzo's death and can see the power in it. What made it so angering though was that, after 8 years of constant torture why did it have to be done to Bonnie?
thank you so much for doing this, I loved it!
the originals should go:
season 1- Phobe Tonkin, Charles Michael Davis
season 2- Yusuf Gatewood, Riley Emilia Voelkel
season 3- Danielle Campbell
season 4- Daniel Gillies,
season 5- Joseph Morgan, Danielle Rose Russell
something like that
I think Phoebe and Daniel should be in the same season recap
Kinda want Daniel Sharman tbh
I want Claire holt to go with Daniel for season 4
I NEED Nathaniel Buzolic in there somewhere, and Steven Krueger.
Include Riley Voelkel for either season 2 or 4 and Leah Pipes for season 3
"I love you. I will love you, forever. I understand." Ugh, my ❤ #Steroline forever. 🙌🏼
Yes they ruin it mention about nothing Nina Nina blaa blaa blaa I'm ful of this Elena s*
Your beautiful voice blew my away. Haunting. Thanks u michael
i love having these videos thx!
Thank you Miss Julie Plec for addressing the rumours at the end. I do not know you personally but if you are being sincere and upfront about past mistakes God bless you . All the best. Everyone makes mistakes .
Oh, I’m so sad we never got to hear from Kat Graham!
Yes 😭
After the way she was treated behind the scenes I’m not surprised she wants nothing more to do with this show
@@NARUTOS.CLANSS where did you get that information? What do you have to support what you're claiming?
@@agata3140 look it up it’s all online. Kat herself even said it wasn’t until she got on the show that she really experienced racism in Hollywood. Also if you look at old tweets from her, it’s clear she wants nothing more to do with that show.
@@NARUTOS.CLANSS seems like everyone is getting along from the cast, but Kat. I believe you heard only Kat's side of story and there is more going on in the background.
Happy to see michael!! Julie delightful as always ☺️
It was nice to see Plec take responsibility for the depiction (or lack thereof) of black people wrong on the show. I’m rewatching the series right now, and the number of times they kill black characters so easily was truly concerning. And the way they repeatedly used Bonnie (and other black characters as well) as a savior for white people was disappointing.
they killed most of all the characters no just black ones
@@stacyhenderson1382 Yes. But at a certain point it was a large percentage of black characters over white ones. Even random victims.
@@stacyhenderson1382 who all black was left besides bonnie???? and they tried to kill her off multiple times but the fans wasst having it so they brought her back and the cycle continues
She never addressed it until now. I really think it’s because she gets A LOT of hate about it all the time right now. Especially because more people have started to notice it
most them she killed was white as well . its just a programme 🙄
We want the Originals next 😍
Fair play to Julie with the way she wrapped that up
Michael Malarkey is that actor who can talk much without saying anything
That ending of season 8 was the best ending. It was closing the full circle. Stefan that force Damon to be a vampire, gave his brother the chance to live a human life, being loved, the life he didn't had the chance to have back then as human and Stefan that was never called accountable for the bad things he did, finally did and by sacrifying himself earned peace. Totally heart breaking, even more because for Damon a life without his much loved brother ment so much less. Therefore it is beautiful that in the end, after Damon lived a fullfilling human life, they could find each other again and be together forever in peace. So poetic, so beautiful.
I am glad Stefan found Peace bc he DESERVED it. And Steroline was epic bc Caroline was so sweet to Stefan.
Well it was a good ending but I think some of it sucked, Bonnie's ending was written lazy to me, Caroline seemed unfinished in a way or maybe not, we just never know how things end with her being the only one gonna live very long. The only people who got the amazing perfect endings were the obvious Damon and Elena which is a little sucky. But it was a great last episode.
@@Desmondenae_ Damon didn't get the perfect ending, he got to live a life without the brother he loved above everybody Elena included, it's a sad life. In fact, at the end, he find peace in the arms of his brother waiting for him.
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@@Patricia7561 L
I need a recap of Steroline with Candice and Paul 😍😍
yesss michael! so sad kat wasn’t here though 😢
Literally been watching hoping to see Bonnie and no Bonnie ✌🏾
Enzo as 3rd salvatore brother...idk if I would have liked it or not🤓
That storyline would of been reaching
@@HARLEMHEFNER oh yeah...that would def been a twist we never expected
racist
Ol Michael rockin the Outkast hat with the Black Sabbath t-shirt
The accent was fake!?!?? I’m absolutely blown away 🤯🤯
I see in the comment section, fans still talk about why Delena was end game and not Stelena, that discussion would never end , because lets say Stelena was end game, Delena fans would say Elena doesn't know what she wants first one brother then the other brother, so even if Stelena was end game later on Elena could have changed her mind yet again and go back to Damon and either side Stelena or Delena would defend their point of view, so the best thing to do is accept reality, in reality Delena was end game that's it.
DE fans will never be happy even when they got their way they still get upset at one mention of Stefan. Idk why they hate him so much. This world is weird. DE fans prove that.
@@mehreenaahmad2442 FACTS
THE REALITY IS NINA RUINED TVD. THERE IS NO OTHER REALITY.
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This makes me want to rewatch vampire diaries.
Done , now waiting for the originals
He is the unofficial Salvatore stepbrother
All the ladies fell in love with a Salvatore 🙌🏼
That finale is one of the best I've ever seen, it's really good and that's something that very few shows can achieve.
🤨
"....then it's kinda fun." ~ Damon
YAYYY finally michael😍😍😍😍
Awww this is the last one 😭
5:55 yea, true, it becomes "sucky" if it's dragged but people like me who love it, would stick lol. 6:38 totally, explained it so good 7:22 tears💐
Thanks #JuliePlec and #EntertainmentWeekly. Idk what I'm going to do with myself now. I may watch Legacies in October. Who know when I'll get over this show.... 🙄😒😭
❤ Rock on 🤟🏼
STEFAN AND STELENA, BEST OF TVD
I understand there may have been valid personal or professional reasons for Nina coming back for just the Finale & not more episodes. However her exit at the end of season 6 was so beautifully written her later return promised so much more. I guess we were all waiting on the epic love story of Elena & Damon to take flight again. What we got was a fleeting kiss (Boy there was more love shown between Bonnie & Damon reuniting from the prison world). From what came before with Delena it felt we were very short changed. Damon waited 2 seasons & went through literal hell to be reunited with the love of his life. Strange to hear he was going to be killed off. Surely improbable with waiting to wake Elena so late on in the finale. Shame a deal couldn't be agreed for a longer run. Would be interested to know what Julie's vision would have been if a longer stint could have been agreed? Elena losing both brothers would have broken her for good.
this show was actually brother's love story..well said 😌✋
I love him hehehe
I ain't gay at all but Michael/Enzo are making me question myself. What a cool talented SoB
Ugh I love Michael Malarkey
ENZOOOOO my fav
Y’all notice who didn’t do these interview? There’s a reason…
This!
I love the series finale so much! It was perfect and I still go back and rewatch it when I want a good cry lol so glad it was stefan and not Damon so he and elena could have their human life together after all those years.
He looked away when he said legacies the first time 😭😭🤨 he knows 🥴
Kat Graham 100% deserved to be on here. But love the show! Loved watching these every week!
She was very mistreated and she chooses not to appear for vampire diaries content like this.
we got to interview tyler but not bonnie thats just wow..... Julie i feel you had a part in this !!!!!!!
Wish you could talk to True Blood and From Dusk till Dawn: The Series casts too. These were great vampire shows.
Samantha has had less and less energy as each recap went by. Girl, rest !
bonnie and enzo deserved to be happy :((
Sitting here hoping you guys "Binge" The Originals next 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
What did u think of Michael singing it was haunting
I hope there will be the same type of videos for The Originals
I want Samantha to bring in Don Mancini to cover the Child's Play movies (excluding the remake obviously) in preparation for the Chucky tv series. I know Don did it previously with Mandatory, but they only went up to Curse Of Chucky and they were being very vague with that movie
At least Micheal came! I’m missing queen kat 🥺
THE ORIGINALS PLEASEEEEEEEE😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Michael voice
Stelena forever
Amen!
W
Waiting for the originals recap
omg we really got the whole main cast in these episodes (except for kat) 😍 it‘s funny to me that they didn‘t include the actor that plays matt 😂 maybe they don‘t like his character either lol
48:24 "Elena would have found her way back to Stefan"
0 sense
@@suripanta1924 Actually, it makes sense. The pilot is about them. Of course the last episode should be about them as well.
@@fabianeribas I mean, it would have make sense if it was written that way, but after s5/s6 they wrote Elena and Damon as soulates she literally says it and that he is the love of her life and and all and went to sleep fully in love with him. So after all of that stelena endgame wouldn't have made sense. If they would've write half s5 and s6 differently with another plot to make the again, then ofc. And and the could perfectly have if they wanted because Nina was never going to be more than 6 seasons. So that's why they are just talk bs rn. Also So weird how they say that while writting s8 they were about to kill Damon before changing it for Stefan? After all they in s6 .. still no making sense and it's contradictory. And then that they BOTH were supposed to die? Where's the consistency...
@@suripanta1924 No. First of all, Damon and Elena doesn’t makes sense. He is 25 years old. He slept with her mother. Gross. Elena said she knew the love of her life would save her best friend… and we know Damon already tried to kill her multiple times and even when he saves her, he STRUGGLES with it and he shouldn’t, so that’s another reason of why Stefan is the love of her life.
And Elena said seeing Stefan in a tuxe stirs feelings and he asks her if he’s sensing another brother swap, so it never stopped being a love triangle.
@@fabianeribas girl what are you even talking about you are literal taking Elena's words from her mouth, words she said to DAMON in his face "I knew that the love my life would stan by his best friend (bonnie) even if that means having to live without me for a little while" you are taking that to make it about Stefan? What the hell?. He is not the one who had to to the decision Damon had to.. Elena told Damon He is the love of her life. She also wrote in her journal that Damon is her SOULMATE. You are also going to somewhat twist it and make it about Stefan? 🤣.
About the age gasp, Elena turned vampire in her 18 Phisically but mentally already in her 19 and she continued to grow up like all of then who grow up mentally. By season 8 she was 25 and since Bonnie took the cure from her she aged to that point. Damon and Elena started their human life together at their 25. Stefan in s8 was still 17. If they would've been endgame suddenly in s8, THAT would've been gross. 25 and 17.
I might have been in a minority but I would love to see them bring the triangle back around. To really pay homage to season 1. And before Delenas come for me saying how Delena was more popular at the time (that ALWAYS happens when I comment something). - That's only MY opinion.
@@Hi-cq2hm ?
It would've been really annoying but which is most annoying is how she contradicts herself. Delena was set up with Nina leaving but that then she was going to kill Damon in s8?? They are only talking crap. If they wanted stelena endgame they could've done it perfectly.
@@fernandabarrera9794 Do I believe she wanted Delena endgame? Absolutely. Kevin Williamson didn't but that's a whole other conversation since he left after season 3. But what would they do with Delena with 2 seasons left? They would've gotten stale. Their relationship had the same pattern every season and I really can't see what else could've been done with them. 🤷♀️ Not to mention the two actors didn't enjoy working together anymore (clearly seen in their reunion in the finale).
The triangle dynamic is what made the show talked about. To bring some more conflict and drama again in the last season would intrigue the viewers and they would continue watching because nothing would've been set in stone.
@@mandy_5436 The ones that were bland were Stefan and Elena, is Elena and Damon while Elena was with Stefan the thing that had It entertained. Then the drama kind continued because of Katherine and the spell of the doppelganger thing. And in s6 making delena from 0 was genius because that also entertains instead of making then fight and broke up like most TV shows do. But Makin Elena struggle again between brothers for more season wouldn't have been fun at all. It would be so so annoying. Elena is super overhated already. Imagine with more brother swamps. I can't even imagine anyone them accepting her back either...? And they never planned do it for "2 more seasons" if Nina would've never left I can imagine they could have even make more seasons . But the reality is that it was always supposed to be 6 🤷🏻♀️ and Nina stuck to it and her contract. The actors would've been fine tho. They worked together 2 years as exes and had no problem . They got weird after Elena left. Spending time apart changes everything and having to go and shoot again as love partnes of course is weird. Another reason why the creators screwed TVD by extending the show instead of finishing in s6. Thats what money does :/ also it is a vampire show and the actors obviously age, in s7 it was already hard to avoid that fact while watching it...
@@mandy_5436 btw Kevin left after s2. He was part of 3x01 tho.
Enzo ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Has anyone noticed Micheals shirt?
Absolutely
please do this with the originals cast too
Can’t believe you’d didn’t talk about writing Katherine for the final time
I need for these podcasts to last at leats two hours so they could have time to explain everything.
@@maydelin21 agreed😩
Can you do a Supernatural Binge too?!!
Please do a ,,The Originals” one
ooooh what's the Nathalie Kelley tea?
so i’m guessing you guys couldn’t afford kat graham 🙄✋🏾
She was mistreated on the show and sadly doesn't do tvd stuff anymore😖
23:31 pls to everyone saying that Michael is defending the writers at this time stamp however he clearly isn't
Enzo 🤩