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Titan and Bahamut were epic, but those were rage-induced primes who also ate a piece of Mothercrystal to overcharge. Meanwhile Barnabas was a handful in just semi-prime mode. And it was glorious!
Also it makes sense because unlike the other eikons,barnabas has control of odin...at least until he goes insane but even that he still has control i think
Désolé mais c'est certainement le meilleur combat du jeu c'est apeine si barnabas utiliser son Don contrairement au autres émissaire qui en abusé apart benedicta peut-être est Cidolfus. Mais il manque le thème de sa première rencontre avec clive qui est plus complet je trouve est sa partis 2 aussi
Honestly the lack of a real eikon vs eikon phase, for me, elevates this fight. It shows how powerful Clive and Barnabas are even when they don't fully rely on their eikons. Sure, Odin and Ifrit come out to play, but in the end, this fight is between the dominants, not the Eikons.
They could have done this without Odin though. The Sleipnir guy could been Odin and Barnabas could have just been the main villain. Then we could have had a cool Ifrit v Odin burn down the forest fight and this one. Ultima was trash and Barnabas would have been the better end boss.
@@jaybee4288 Not exactly. Barnabas, in his human form, is as badass as he is because of the fact he is Odin, not despite it. I believe the intent of the battle was to illustrate how Clive and Barnabas had achieved such mastery over their Eikonic abilities that it transcended their need to have to prime either partially or fully to tap into that power, and that it would ultimately be a battle of whose will would prevail.
@@jaybee4288this is fax, Ultima was not intimidating at all, he literally failed in almost everything he attemped the whole game 💀. He said he wanted to sever Clive's relationships and didn't manage to break a single one
At first I lamented we didn't get a proper Ifrit vs Odin, but the more I thought about it, the way this fight plays out makes sense. Barnabas, as a mere man, bests Clive twice. When they fight, it is as man vs man because it is as much a clash of steel as it is of wills. Sure, Barnabas is in complete control of Odin, but them mostly fighting as men drives that point even more, especially since this conflict is centered on whether or not man can defy god. Plus, seeing Barnabas elated that Clive, as a swordsman, is giving him the fight of his live was a cool detail.
@@arenkai He wasn't at all! Barnabas if he put his full might behind it would've beat Clive again. I think Ultima had truly took over him and he just relented for Clive to beat him.
@@Kumire_921 Actually, Bahamut only gained such power after drinking from the Mothercrystal, Drake's Heart. Before that, Odin and Bahamut were canonically even. Yet Odin never displayed his full strength against Bahamut but could still so easily split his flares.
At first I was really sad that we don't actually get to fight Odin in full Eikon form, but honestly, the fight was just so good that by the time I hit by the last few phases of the fight it was in contention with the Bahamut fight for being my favorite. Barnabus is just such a scary dude, and this fight really pressures you the whole time. Bahamut edges it out by a little bit, I still think that was the sickest boss fight in the game, but it's incredible to me how EVERY Eikon feels like it could be a final boss. I really think FFXVI has the best and most jaw-dropping boss fights I've ever seen in a game. Odin and Ultima definitely tested my skills more than any other though, I was really glad I did the sidequests for the extra potion inventory 😭
I see there's some people sad that we didn't get a full on Ifrit x Odin, but I gotta say, the duel, VA and fight mechanics left me feeling great. It was the most difficult fight for me in the entire game in a otherwise easy game. It was just so fun.
Whole agree. Amazing boss fight. I'm trying to do all the story stuff without using items since it's easy with excess healing and Barnabas kicked my ASS all over the tower. Each time I would die I'd let him smack me around til I was at the health level I started the phase at. I think I died like 7-8 times. Didn't help that I was around 500-600 health in his final phase. I felt fucking amazing when I finally got all his moves down and finessed his ass.
It’s great you enjoyed it but the majority wanted a better spectacle. There’s no right or wrong here, you don’t have to knock other people’s opinion. Do agree the game is way too easy, Odin was easy too though.
Let's be honest, King Barnabas is the most badass character in the game. Dude is a legend. His Eikon isn't anything bombastic. Just a Dark Knight who cleaves mountains and people in half.
@@anatoliasmercenary.you are talking like if he wasn't the great god of Norse mythology. Also Shiva is also an humanoid eiklnand Titan to a certain extent
After checking someone's report of Titan's theme and it's parallels to Atlas, I am left wondering about the nature of Odin's lyrics. Twain and 8 feet for Slepnir, 2 for Odin. Although this Slepnir I only saw 4 hooves? Three eyes cuz Odin was supposed to lack one, but "and one", is that their unity or a reference to another? Foreseen cuz Odin was loved prophecy and counciling to avoid ragnarok if possible. Trained upon victory, and the steel both, Odin is certainly a fighting god. Darkness though? Darkness? Like, death? The ravens? Was "three eyes and one" not something like unity or the missing eye, but maybe even the "fenrir" fulfilled by the somewhat canine features of Ifrit? Maybe then the "darkness comes" was Fenrir consuming Odon atop Slepnir? Of was the one supposed to be the "Mythos" and not a Fenrir? Hell, am I completely off and the one was supposed to be the eye in the well? I dunno at the moment, cuz this and Titan's song clearly refer to the myths and not just the boss, yet something doesn't add up with him.
@@TheKing-qz9wd The song is called "The Riddle" and you guessed it: it is an actual riddle. A quick google search showed me a scandinavian riddle ("Óðinn riddle", which is a variant of the international Rider-and-horse riddle): Who are those twain that on ten feet run, three their eyes are but only one tail? This riddle ponder O prince Heidrek! If you type "riddle ten feet three eyes" into google, you should find the Wikipedia entry. It is Odin on his horse Sleipnir.
@@TheKing-qz9wd It's a reference to Norse mythology and a riddle contest Odin had with a king. The twain = Odin and Sleipnir On ten feet run = Odin and Sleipnir's leg number, bearing in mind in mythology Sleipnir is an eight-legged horse. Three eyes = Odin gave up one eye for power, and Sleipnir has two eyes so three eyes. One = Sleipnir's tail. All of those come directly from the original riddle Odin tells in the saga and are not references to Odin in-game which is why they "don't add up". For reference: "Then said Gestumblindi: (72) Who are those twain that on ten feet run, three their eyes are but only one tail? This riddle ponder, O prince Heidrek!" The Riddle song is pretty much paraphrasing the original riddle from the legends and just making it fit the tune. "Trained upon victory foreseen" though is about Barnabas as it's a reference to how he's tunnel-visioned onto his ultimate victory of seeing Ultima's plan to fruition and the heaven he believes he will create (and how Barnabas is a man who pretty much is focused purely on the future, and his fixation on fate and inevitability). "With steel, darkness comes!" is related to Odin's nature in XVI, being the Eikon of Darkness, and the steel being his sword.
@@Azdaja13 I did know some of this, some of my statements were along the lines of "it is a bit unusual to associate Odin with darkness". But I really do appreciate someone giving me a great answer for the "and one". It was his tail this whole time. What a surprise.
@@TheKing-qz9wd Odin's association with darkness comes from XI and XIV where Odin is known as "The Dark Divinity". And possibly from Odin having been the instant death summon and how he's usually had skulls and other deathly associations. It's also probably because they needed an Eikon to represent darkness and just went with Odin to be opposite Bahamut. Odin's an odd one though because they keep changing his elemental affinity.
Clive's color is red, and Ifrit's flames are red, but when he reaches the peak of his power (Ifrit Risen), his flames have a blue tinge, because blue flames are even hotter than red flames Barnabas's and Odin's color is blue, but when he reaches the peak of his power, his swords give off a red glow.
For the blue flames you're right, blue flames without using a reactant to change it's color means it has attained perfect combustion, meaning as you said the heat is even hotter and it also means there is no carbon monoxide waste. The blue flames are the definition of perfect control.
“I had thought the tantalizing kiss of self-indulgence a dream forever out of reach. And now that its sweet ruin courses through my veins I shall not be quick to relinquish it. Show me your worth, Mythos...that I might revel in it!”
Keep in mind barbabas was this tough compared to the other eikons and didn't do so much as sip the crystals power before we battled he wanted us to win. To complete mythos.
@@Bahamut998not at all. Barnabas has hated humanity and it’s nature ever since he lost his mother at a young age. He probably felt as if the only path for him to achieve happiness was to simply overcome the rest of the world, until he discovered ultima who offered him a final salvation.
@@Timebomb_19 it’s implied that Barnabas and his mother are from a tribe of humans that always worshipped ultima, the circle of malius is the religion of ash. So their entire people were always brainwashed. Their tribe is implied to be the descendants of the people who worshipped the first mothercrystal in Dhalmakia that got destroyed by ultima. These people always spoke to ultima.
@@Bahamut998he does more than speak to Ultima if you remember that one cutscene where Ultima transforms into many different people. Naked. In the bedroom. And also his mom yeah Barnabas is insane
Odin’s theme is SO fucking good! I love that the Eikons themselves are barely present on the fight, and that most of it is just Barnabas, as he gets progressively stronger and more difficult to handle. His song may not have been the most over the top or complex tune around, but I love it for it’s simplicity, it’s a dark, foreboding, intimidating tune, it not only fits Odin PERFECTLY, there’s this sort of malice in it that goes along with Barnabas’s character so well. Easily my favorite fight in the game, not only is it incredible as a 1v1 duel, the visuals, the music, the story, everything is on point here, to make one of the most compelling boss fights I’ve fought on recent memory.
Barnabas was easily my favourite antagonist in the game. The dude was thematically amazing and was a total badass. Not to mention his voice actor gave the performance of a lifetime.
This really feels like it belongs to the penultimate boss of a Fire Emblem game and I love it! The final HUMAN bosses of FE are so often mad kings like Barnabas, it’s really a perfect fit for him
On a technical gameplay level, this is probably the most fun I've had playing this game. Surely it's not deeply high stakes as Bahamut, but on a confrontation/clash of ideals standpoint, this sure represents so much at this point of the game, and I'm actually glad it has this "intimate" feeling of Clive's conviction vs. Barnabas'
Barnabas said the other Dominants use their power as a crutch, it makes sense you wouldn't fully get to rely on Ifrit for this battle because Barnabas was meant to make "Mythos" presentable. A presentable vessel has no need to use an Eikon's power as a crutch alone. I love that there was no proper Eikon battle for this one
Though firstly disappointed of not fighting Odin with Ifrit, I soon realized it wasn’t a fight between them but between Clive and Barnabas, soon I was starting to get more and more into the fight, specially because when they clashed you could just FEEL the power behind each blow, I really started to like it when I could see that they were hitting each other so damn hard they forced themselves out of their Eikons!! Soon without noticing it became one of my favorite fights, I was probably too focused in fighting to notice it.
I personally think Barnabus was the most intimidating and terrifying of the dominants in ff16. the first two fights that Clive has with Barnabus, Barnabus was not even semi-primed he was only using his arm of darkness ability nearly killed him. the only time Barnabus semi-primes was after he goes insane in his boss fight and activates the quieting. Another thing to take note was that Barnabus was able to switch to and from normal to semi-prime to primed states without much trouble on multiple occasions in a single day. compared to all other dominants, it takes so much out of the individual to initiate priming and come out primed states as seen by joshua and jill coming out of their primed states and are completely exhausted.
I understand it was Clive’s fate to defeat Barnabas and Titan but I don’t understand why they had to make it seem like Clive was just stronger than them in every aspect in the final fights like in Titans fight Titan despite how resilient and large he is didn’t even scratch Clive once. And despite Barnabas destroying Clive twice without his Eikon Barely hurt Clive despite his feats being by far the greatest in the game until Clive defeated Ultima imo
This honestly feels like a true test of wills and strength rather than a fight to the death. Neither Barnabus or Clive fight with their Eikons - only the abilities they are given by the Creator as it's a classic steel-versus-steel clash. It's fights like these that make it all the more worthwhile to show just what two men can do as they demonstrate their mastery over the Eikons. Personally, this was one of my favorite fights just behind Ifrit and the Phoenix against Bahamut.
The thing I really like about this fight is you slowly start to see Clive match and then overcome Barnabas, both in and out of his Primed state. And it’s partially due to him absorbing another Eikon just before this fight, but also due to Clive finally being resolved enough in himself to not let Barnabas get in his head anymore
Playing this fight on FF mode with Arm of Darkness make the fight even more badass , you can parry his arm of darkness with your own definitely a true duel sword fight of the game
1:12 barnabas put ifrit down even without his eikon state. that's how OP he is. barnabas is the most underutilized character in the game storyline-wise
I can understand why considering second titan and Bahamian were purely Eikon fights…still a little bummed cos I really love Odin and wanted to see how ifrit could fight a flying horse
This fight showed us (and clive) that eikons are not always necessary to beat another dominant. It was a more classic 1 vs 1 duel and felt for as epic as the bahamut fight.
Less epic than the rest, but I felt sooooo much more pressure during this fight Constantly waiting for opportunities to strike Perfectly suited a 1 on 1
At first I was a little underwhelmed with this fight. Like all the Eikon battles were grand and so epic this one felt very small in comparison. And it didn’t help either the fact it was after Titan and Bahamut. But on my Final Fantasy mode play through I started learning the depths of the combat system and that’s when I REALLY appreciated this fight. It’s just a polished 1v1 that truly tests your combat skills.
Y’all know how this fight should have play out. In three phases and like this: Phase 1: Ifrit vs Odin on Sleipnir, that resembles the of V vs Elder Geryon Knight from DMC5. Phase 2: Ifrit vs Odin, resembling the fight of Dante vs Cavaliere Angelo from DMC5 yet again. Phase: 3 Clive vs Barnabas
I remember when i see for first time the moment when Odin put his sword in the sky.. and almost purging the world of me.. really thats seems like an "arcangel" clean the skyes of deamons. Awesome scene! and fight
Man, if someone tell me in the past that there will be a Final Fantasy game where Ifrit use Zantetsuken on Odin, I'd wonder wtf is wrong with that person, but here we are.
Barnabas stood out as an antagonist for me when, after 40 hours of explosive monster fights, he just picked up a plain sword and schooled Clive in the streets.
The music seems simple and even familiar, but it's still damn good. The fight is great, if it was more difficult, then I would say that this is the best fight in the entire game.
Aside from the quick mother issue, Barnabas wasnt fleshed out as much than the other characters. As sinister and amazing his design was, i feel he lack the background to really understand his motivations
I feel like that’s by design. Him basically having this vast history that’s told to us about him uniting the kingdom at such a young age. But then he starts to serve ultimata and all his individuality is lost. He lacks real motivation because he doesn’t know what he’s doing. He really was just a puppet of ultimata. I do wish they’d explain more about his mother in the cutscenes as it seems like the one thing he still clings to from his humanity
there's bits pieces hidden in the active time lore that give you a little bit more background on him, but honestly if they ever decide to do dlc or god forbid a 2nd game, i hope they flesh out his character more. he's so fucking cool and it'd be a shame if they didn't do anything with the bits of info in the ATL but that's just my hope
@@in_a_bucket1898 they can do a 2nd game focusing on Cidolfus's time in Waloed since Barnabas was already king before Cid became Lord Commander of Waloed. Would be a cool story to see how Cid became an outlaw and what did Barnabas do that made Cid become an outlaw.
Odin’s abilities (after you defeat him) are really sick and probably the strongest out of all the Eikon’s. It’s a shame that his Zantetsuken ability requires you to have at least one other Odin ability to power it up, as having two will make it extremely fast to get to the final level but that leaves you with only 4 other slots for all the other Eikons.
@aoto8897 Not really, Bahamut has one top skill that you should use and you shouldn’t be picking it as one of your 3 eikons if you’re min maxing. Odin is a must pick.
Barnabas was a cheesy villain imo. Despite his edgy Shakespearean dialogue I had fun fighting him. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I also like FF16's iteration of Odin design-wise. It reminds me of Golbez.
God this fight lit a flame in me like when fighting Sephiroth in KH2. Just 2 swordsmen going full throttle, there's just something about fights designed like dances to the death
Loved barnabas cus he was odin and voice actor for him was amazing other then that barnabas didn't seem to have a goal he just worshipped the hell out of ultima and had no mindset of his own just a puppet
i don't know why but every domini boss fight reminds me of the titans from attack on titan, the bosses are fucking well staged and if this doesn't become game of the year i don't know, good job square enix
I think this fight wouldve been perfectly fine if we got the chance to fight Odin as ifrit with shiva at the bottom of the sea and then clive loses there then this fight is fine as a man vs man fight here
One thing that would have elevated this fight is a real, gameplay-integrated back and forth between Ifrit and Clive. It's seen that Ifrit has the advantage over Odin, but loses to Semi-Primed Barnabas because he can move easily around him, while Clive can take Barnabas on the ground. You could have had much more transformation/detransformation between the two, a true duel of master and simulate "mind games" between the two. Plus, sick-looking Clive-Ifrit combos is something missing from this game.
@@jacobkern2060 they should allowed us to use hellfire as a OP ability in both Clive's eikon loadout and as Ifrit. Would have made him OP just as he should be
Honestly while I do think this fight is pretty weak compared to the two that come before it, the fact that it feels a lot like a Dante v Vergil fight I love
Hmmm, we know Sleipnir isn't an Eikon and that it's basically just a construct of Odin. Does this mean, given some extra time, the other Eikons could have their own ride of sorts? And if so, what should they ride?
Everyone keeps saying This is Clive vs Barnabas no Eikons. Did we do the same fight? This was Clive vs Barnabas and Odin. Barnabas Transforms several times vs Clive. So it shows that barnabas was out of his league and proves the team wanted to show odin but ran out of time.
For me, he and Hugo were skill checks. Cuz they made you knew how to properly use your eikons and dodge/parry. Barnabas more than Hugo for obvious reasons.
Was a bit let down by the fight. It was good but I was expecting one last final stage of eikon vs eikon, ifrit vs oden would have been cool af. Have them jumping around the towers as they all get sliced apart n shit.
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Some may say this fight is not epic as Bahamut's but I enjoyed this fight as a hand to hand combat feels like Dante vs Vergil lol
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This was an epic duel.
@@ragna6410 yeah in the duel I didnt try to stop Barnabas then got Judgement Cut lol xD
I am the storm that is approaching
This fight was pure kino!
Titan and Bahamut were epic, but those were rage-induced primes who also ate a piece of Mothercrystal to overcharge. Meanwhile Barnabas was a handful in just semi-prime mode. And it was glorious!
I hope whoever voiced Barnabas got a lot of money for that performance, especially the laughing.
yeah Im intending to make a meme about it lol
You should hear him as Malos in xenoblade
@@neuro7651 Wait, he's Malos?!
@@neuro7651 love him as Malos
@@azazel166 indeed, David Menkin voiced both Malos and Barnabas. The depth to his acting is crazy
A lot of people are going to disagree with me, but I really like this fight, 1 on 1 without Eikons, just your own skills
Yeah I think the team all know and intend it like this for a different flavour. Ngl Barnabus skill set is sick!!
Also it makes sense because unlike the other eikons,barnabas has control of odin...at least until he goes insane but even that he still has control i think
Désolé mais c'est certainement le meilleur combat du jeu c'est apeine si barnabas utiliser son Don contrairement au autres émissaire qui en abusé apart benedicta peut-être est Cidolfus. Mais il manque le thème de sa première rencontre avec clive qui est plus complet je trouve est sa partis 2 aussi
Also, if you think about it, it makes sense that Clive should defeat Barnabas as man, and not as an Eikon, to prove him wrong.
I definitely agree, Barnabas fight is my second favorite fight of the game
Honestly the lack of a real eikon vs eikon phase, for me, elevates this fight. It shows how powerful Clive and Barnabas are even when they don't fully rely on their eikons. Sure, Odin and Ifrit come out to play, but in the end, this fight is between the dominants, not the Eikons.
Between Men
They could have done this without Odin though. The Sleipnir guy could been Odin and Barnabas could have just been the main villain. Then we could have had a cool Ifrit v Odin burn down the forest fight and this one. Ultima was trash and Barnabas would have been the better end boss.
@@jaybee4288I think Ultimas fight was pretty cool and that he was good as a villain. But the best one in this game is Barnabas.
@@jaybee4288 Not exactly. Barnabas, in his human form, is as badass as he is because of the fact he is Odin, not despite it.
I believe the intent of the battle was to illustrate how Clive and Barnabas had achieved such mastery over their Eikonic abilities that it transcended their need to have to prime either partially or fully to tap into that power, and that it would ultimately be a battle of whose will would prevail.
@@jaybee4288this is fax, Ultima was not intimidating at all, he literally failed in almost everything he attemped the whole game 💀. He said he wanted to sever Clive's relationships and didn't manage to break a single one
At first I lamented we didn't get a proper Ifrit vs Odin, but the more I thought about it, the way this fight plays out makes sense.
Barnabas, as a mere man, bests Clive twice. When they fight, it is as man vs man because it is as much a clash of steel as it is of wills. Sure, Barnabas is in complete control of Odin, but them mostly fighting as men drives that point even more, especially since this conflict is centered on whether or not man can defy god.
Plus, seeing Barnabas elated that Clive, as a swordsman, is giving him the fight of his live was a cool detail.
My theory is also that Barnabas wasn't giving his all in this fight
@@arenkai He wasn't at all! Barnabas if he put his full might behind it would've beat Clive again. I think Ultima had truly took over him and he just relented for Clive to beat him.
Ifrit broke his sword in two, if they fought fully primed Clive would've won more easily. Keep in mind he defeated Bahamut, Odin is nothing compared.
@@Kumire_921yea but that was with the help of joshua. I think bahamut ascended is the strongest eikon/being in the world of 16 barring ultima
@@Kumire_921 Actually, Bahamut only gained such power after drinking from the Mothercrystal, Drake's Heart. Before that, Odin and Bahamut were canonically even. Yet Odin never displayed his full strength against Bahamut but could still so easily split his flares.
If u're a melee gamer, u will definitely enjoy Odin fight
I did enjoy it
You're damn right I did
Indeed! a truly solo warrior's duel!
At first I was really sad that we don't actually get to fight Odin in full Eikon form, but honestly, the fight was just so good that by the time I hit by the last few phases of the fight it was in contention with the Bahamut fight for being my favorite. Barnabus is just such a scary dude, and this fight really pressures you the whole time. Bahamut edges it out by a little bit, I still think that was the sickest boss fight in the game, but it's incredible to me how EVERY Eikon feels like it could be a final boss. I really think FFXVI has the best and most jaw-dropping boss fights I've ever seen in a game. Odin and Ultima definitely tested my skills more than any other though, I was really glad I did the sidequests for the extra potion inventory 😭
I see there's some people sad that we didn't get a full on Ifrit x Odin, but I gotta say, the duel, VA and fight mechanics left me feeling great. It was the most difficult fight for me in the entire game in a otherwise easy game. It was just so fun.
Whole agree. Amazing boss fight. I'm trying to do all the story stuff without using items since it's easy with excess healing and Barnabas kicked my ASS all over the tower. Each time I would die I'd let him smack me around til I was at the health level I started the phase at. I think I died like 7-8 times. Didn't help that I was around 500-600 health in his final phase.
I felt fucking amazing when I finally got all his moves down and finessed his ass.
It’s great you enjoyed it but the majority wanted a better spectacle. There’s no right or wrong here, you don’t have to knock other people’s opinion. Do agree the game is way too easy, Odin was easy too though.
I’m not sad at all honestly it would of been boring to see the same thing happening again
I found the Ultimalius battle easier than this one. I literally died SO many times bru.
Ng+ , very hard
Let's be honest, King Barnabas is the most badass character in the game.
Dude is a legend. His Eikon isn't anything bombastic. Just a Dark Knight who cleaves mountains and people in half.
Don’t forget THAT HE RIDES A HORSE!
@@DL_Jamwith way too many legs look at how many legs the horse has
@@DL_JamHE RIDES
Agreed, everyone else has mythical creatures as Eikons, Barnabas has a giant dude with absurdly cool armor, steed and sword.
@@anatoliasmercenary.you are talking like if he wasn't the great god of Norse mythology. Also Shiva is also an humanoid eiklnand Titan to a certain extent
2:12
Lyrics:
The twain,
On ten feet run
Three eyes and one
Trained upon victory
Foreseen
With steel, darkness comes
After checking someone's report of Titan's theme and it's parallels to Atlas, I am left wondering about the nature of Odin's lyrics.
Twain and 8 feet for Slepnir, 2 for Odin. Although this Slepnir I only saw 4 hooves?
Three eyes cuz Odin was supposed to lack one, but "and one", is that their unity or a reference to another?
Foreseen cuz Odin was loved prophecy and counciling to avoid ragnarok if possible.
Trained upon victory, and the steel both, Odin is certainly a fighting god.
Darkness though?
Darkness? Like, death? The ravens? Was "three eyes and one" not something like unity or the missing eye, but maybe even the "fenrir" fulfilled by the somewhat canine features of Ifrit? Maybe then the "darkness comes" was Fenrir consuming Odon atop Slepnir? Of was the one supposed to be the "Mythos" and not a Fenrir?
Hell, am I completely off and the one was supposed to be the eye in the well?
I dunno at the moment, cuz this and Titan's song clearly refer to the myths and not just the boss, yet something doesn't add up with him.
@@TheKing-qz9wd The song is called "The Riddle" and you guessed it: it is an actual riddle. A quick google search showed me a scandinavian riddle ("Óðinn riddle", which is a variant of the international Rider-and-horse riddle):
Who are those twain
that on ten feet run,
three their eyes are
but only one tail?
This riddle ponder
O prince Heidrek!
If you type "riddle ten feet three eyes" into google, you should find the Wikipedia entry. It is Odin on his horse Sleipnir.
@@TheKing-qz9wd It's a reference to Norse mythology and a riddle contest Odin had with a king.
The twain = Odin and Sleipnir
On ten feet run = Odin and Sleipnir's leg number, bearing in mind in mythology Sleipnir is an eight-legged horse.
Three eyes = Odin gave up one eye for power, and Sleipnir has two eyes so three eyes.
One = Sleipnir's tail.
All of those come directly from the original riddle Odin tells in the saga and are not references to Odin in-game which is why they "don't add up". For reference:
"Then said Gestumblindi:
(72) Who are those twain
that on ten feet run,
three their eyes are
but only one tail?
This riddle ponder,
O prince Heidrek!"
The Riddle song is pretty much paraphrasing the original riddle from the legends and just making it fit the tune. "Trained upon victory foreseen" though is about Barnabas as it's a reference to how he's tunnel-visioned onto his ultimate victory of seeing Ultima's plan to fruition and the heaven he believes he will create (and how Barnabas is a man who pretty much is focused purely on the future, and his fixation on fate and inevitability). "With steel, darkness comes!" is related to Odin's nature in XVI, being the Eikon of Darkness, and the steel being his sword.
@@Azdaja13
I did know some of this, some of my statements were along the lines of "it is a bit unusual to associate Odin with darkness". But I really do appreciate someone giving me a great answer for the "and one".
It was his tail this whole time. What a surprise.
@@TheKing-qz9wd Odin's association with darkness comes from XI and XIV where Odin is known as "The Dark Divinity". And possibly from Odin having been the instant death summon and how he's usually had skulls and other deathly associations. It's also probably because they needed an Eikon to represent darkness and just went with Odin to be opposite Bahamut. Odin's an odd one though because they keep changing his elemental affinity.
Clive's color is red, and Ifrit's flames are red, but when he reaches the peak of his power (Ifrit Risen), his flames have a blue tinge, because blue flames are even hotter than red flames
Barnabas's and Odin's color is blue, but when he reaches the peak of his power, his swords give off a red glow.
For the blue flames you're right, blue flames without using a reactant to change it's color means it has attained perfect combustion, meaning as you said the heat is even hotter and it also means there is no carbon monoxide waste. The blue flames are the definition of perfect control.
Avatar: The Last Airbender anyone. 😀
And considering Ultima primarily uses blue flames, it shows how close to God Clive is getting, until eventually surpassing Him.
I really love how scarry the fight feels all the time, and the music is pretty much responsible of it xD
Its still okay, I can’t play some real scary games like Resident Evil
“I had thought the tantalizing kiss of self-indulgence a dream forever out of reach.
And now that its sweet ruin courses through my veins I shall not be quick to relinquish it.
Show me your worth, Mythos...that I might revel in it!”
The raw emotion and insanity on that last line, my god...
Ngl as I come back to it you should've put that last part in all caps so I can fully indulge in the voice of Barnabas lol
2:13 is so good, I really wish they had like another verse with these vocals or something it’s one of the best bits of music in the entire game.
Keep in mind barbabas was this tough compared to the other eikons and didn't do so much as sip the crystals power before we battled he wanted us to win. To complete mythos.
I legit felt bad for Odin because you feel that he is a great King who just made the mistake of believing Ultima.
@@Bahamut998not at all. Barnabas has hated humanity and it’s nature ever since he lost his mother at a young age. He probably felt as if the only path for him to achieve happiness was to simply overcome the rest of the world, until he discovered ultima who offered him a final salvation.
@@Timebomb_19 it’s implied that Barnabas and his mother are from a tribe of humans that always worshipped ultima, the circle of malius is the religion of ash. So their entire people were always brainwashed. Their tribe is implied to be the descendants of the people who worshipped the first mothercrystal in Dhalmakia that got destroyed by ultima. These people always spoke to ultima.
@@Bahamut998he does more than speak to Ultima if you remember that one cutscene where Ultima transforms into many different people. Naked. In the bedroom. And also his mom yeah Barnabas is insane
Odin’s theme is SO fucking good!
I love that the Eikons themselves are barely present on the fight, and that most of it is just Barnabas, as he gets progressively stronger and more difficult to handle.
His song may not have been the most over the top or complex tune around, but I love it for it’s simplicity, it’s a dark, foreboding, intimidating tune, it not only fits Odin PERFECTLY, there’s this sort of malice in it that goes along with Barnabas’s character so well.
Easily my favorite fight in the game, not only is it incredible as a 1v1 duel, the visuals, the music, the story, everything is on point here, to make one of the most compelling boss fights I’ve fought on recent memory.
underrated track. supremely composed and fits Odin and Barnabas' will losing theme perfectly. phenomenal!
My personal favorite fight and song in the game. This song reminds me a lot of old FFs like 4 and 5.
legendary commenter right here^
Barnabas was easily my favourite antagonist in the game.
The dude was thematically amazing and was a total badass.
Not to mention his voice actor gave the performance of a lifetime.
I love this theme. Very heroic and kinglike.
This really feels like it belongs to the penultimate boss of a Fire Emblem game and I love it! The final HUMAN bosses of FE are so often mad kings like Barnabas, it’s really a perfect fit for him
On a technical gameplay level, this is probably the most fun I've had playing this game. Surely it's not deeply high stakes as Bahamut, but on a confrontation/clash of ideals standpoint, this sure represents so much at this point of the game, and I'm actually glad it has this "intimate" feeling of Clive's conviction vs. Barnabas'
ifrit vs bahamut was about doing what you can to save the world; clive vs barnabus was about doing what you can to save yourself. they were both epic.
Yeah, the fight against Dion was a pure clash of Eikons.
This was a clash of wills.
Barnabas said the other Dominants use their power as a crutch, it makes sense you wouldn't fully get to rely on Ifrit for this battle because Barnabas was meant to make "Mythos" presentable. A presentable vessel has no need to use an Eikon's power as a crutch alone. I love that there was no proper Eikon battle for this one
Though firstly disappointed of not fighting Odin with Ifrit, I soon realized it wasn’t a fight between them but between Clive and Barnabas, soon I was starting to get more and more into the fight, specially because when they clashed you could just FEEL the power behind each blow, I really started to like it when I could see that they were hitting each other so damn hard they forced themselves out of their Eikons!! Soon without noticing it became one of my favorite fights, I was probably too focused in fighting to notice it.
Makes sense in the grand scheme of things, Barnabas wanted to test Clive, not Ifrit.
I personally think Barnabus was the most intimidating and terrifying of the dominants in ff16. the first two fights that Clive has with Barnabus, Barnabus was not even semi-primed he was only using his arm of darkness ability nearly killed him. the only time Barnabus semi-primes was after he goes insane in his boss fight and activates the quieting.
Another thing to take note was that Barnabus was able to switch to and from normal to semi-prime to primed states without much trouble on multiple occasions in a single day. compared to all other dominants, it takes so much out of the individual to initiate priming and come out primed states as seen by joshua and jill coming out of their primed states and are completely exhausted.
I understand it was Clive’s fate to defeat Barnabas and Titan but I don’t understand why they had to make it seem like Clive was just stronger than them in every aspect in the final fights like in Titans fight Titan despite how resilient and large he is didn’t even scratch Clive once. And despite Barnabas destroying Clive twice without his Eikon Barely hurt Clive despite his feats being by far the greatest in the game until Clive defeated Ultima imo
He could use the Eikon powers freely because he was already Akashik, he basically was primed all the time
This honestly feels like a true test of wills and strength rather than a fight to the death. Neither Barnabus or Clive fight with their Eikons - only the abilities they are given by the Creator as it's a classic steel-versus-steel clash. It's fights like these that make it all the more worthwhile to show just what two men can do as they demonstrate their mastery over the Eikons. Personally, this was one of my favorite fights just behind Ifrit and the Phoenix against Bahamut.
I love all the major boss fights in this game.
Final Fantasy music never disappoints me! I noticed this part even thaugh the fight was intense as hell!!! My favorite part 00:56 - 01:19
The thing I really like about this fight is you slowly start to see Clive match and then overcome Barnabas, both in and out of his Primed state. And it’s partially due to him absorbing another Eikon just before this fight, but also due to Clive finally being resolved enough in himself to not let Barnabas get in his head anymore
1:20 best part of soundtrack
Playing this fight on FF mode with Arm of Darkness make the fight even more badass , you can parry his arm of darkness with your own definitely a true duel sword fight of the game
1:12 barnabas put ifrit down even without his eikon state.
that's how OP he is.
barnabas is the most underutilized character in the game storyline-wise
Well his moves are suppose to one shot so of course he’s broken
this was the most fun fight imo
0:55 goes so hard
This guy kicked my ass pretty damn hard. Odin was savage and his eikonic abillities are really op. A nice reward for an amazing boss battle!!
Kinda sad that we didn’t get a controllable Ifrit vs Odin fight but still epic nonetheless.
yeah I think they want a different fight narriation than other eikon fights
They had to nerf Odin somehow. Barnabas/Odin basically owned Clive in this game
I can understand why considering second titan and Bahamian were purely Eikon fights…still a little bummed cos I really love Odin and wanted to see how ifrit could fight a flying horse
After Titan and then Bahamut I just kinda knew Odin was gonna be low key and not as good. It was a pacing thing. At least Barnabas a cool character.
Man that theme is beautiful ❤
Man that man is beautiful ❤
This is easily the best Clive fight in the game. But man, after Bahamut I really wanted to control Ifrit against Odin. Qte only was a cockblock
This fight showed us (and clive) that eikons are not always necessary to beat another dominant. It was a more classic 1 vs 1 duel and felt for as epic as the bahamut fight.
Less epic than the rest, but I felt sooooo much more pressure during this fight
Constantly waiting for opportunities to strike
Perfectly suited a 1 on 1
you play parry or dodge?
To me this boss fight is like mixing a Dark Souls boss with Vergil (Devil May Cry) style move sets.
Love this fight. So “maniacal evil” boss in the right way
This whole fight is just goosebumps i am not at this part in final fantasy mode yet but it's gonna be HARD and i will love it ❤❤🔥
At first I was a little underwhelmed with this fight. Like all the Eikon battles were grand and so epic this one felt very small in comparison. And it didn’t help either the fact it was after Titan and Bahamut. But on my Final Fantasy mode play through I started learning the depths of the combat system and that’s when I REALLY appreciated this fight. It’s just a polished 1v1 that truly tests your combat skills.
Best fight in the entire game for me, 1v1 without megazords.
The music + what's happening at 0:52 = A bliss for your ears and eyes
I love how the opening sounds like Cecil's theme Red Wings without the progression. Barnabas is never growing. He's going to die a Dark Knight.
Y’all know how this fight should have play out. In three phases and like this:
Phase 1: Ifrit vs Odin on Sleipnir, that resembles the of V vs Elder Geryon Knight from DMC5.
Phase 2: Ifrit vs Odin, resembling the fight of Dante vs Cavaliere Angelo from DMC5 yet again.
Phase: 3 Clive vs Barnabas
Love how Odin/Barnabas is just a silly guy
the vocals at 2:19 go so hard
What they call this type of singing in music?
@@MundusFate I'm not sure. Definitely operatic but there are a lot of sub-genres of opera
Lmao I love it too, reminds me of Dexter’s Laboratory theme
I remember when i see for first time the moment when Odin put his sword in the sky.. and almost purging the world of me.. really thats seems like an "arcangel" clean the skyes of deamons. Awesome scene! and fight
Odin is freaking insane
Man, if someone tell me in the past that there will be a Final Fantasy game where Ifrit use Zantetsuken on Odin, I'd wonder wtf is wrong with that person, but here we are.
0:54 the music and the timing where he drew his sword is so cool
Honestly a mano e mano fight with Barnabas was sick
Odin looks like Garland from Stranger Paradise and I like it. Very badass!
haha you're now into FF also? XD
@@MundusFate Kek thanks to Mundus!! XDDDD
I am here to kill CHAOS!
Barnabas stood out as an antagonist for me when, after 40 hours of explosive monster fights, he just picked up a plain sword and schooled Clive in the streets.
The music seems simple and even familiar, but it's still damn good. The fight is great, if it was more difficult, then I would say that this is the best fight in the entire game.
Bahamut better
@@aaronfeliciano9768 no🙂
Now I know why Odin is the 'last' to fight... The skill is way too OP ngl
Aside from the quick mother issue, Barnabas wasnt fleshed out as much than the other characters. As sinister and amazing his design was, i feel he lack the background to really understand his motivations
I feel like that’s by design. Him basically having this vast history that’s told to us about him uniting the kingdom at such a young age. But then he starts to serve ultimata and all his individuality is lost. He lacks real motivation because he doesn’t know what he’s doing. He really was just a puppet of ultimata. I do wish they’d explain more about his mother in the cutscenes as it seems like the one thing he still clings to from his humanity
there's bits pieces hidden in the active time lore that give you a little bit more background on him, but honestly if they ever decide to do dlc or god forbid a 2nd game, i hope they flesh out his character more. he's so fucking cool and it'd be a shame if they didn't do anything with the bits of info in the ATL but that's just my hope
@@in_a_bucket1898 they can do a 2nd game focusing on Cidolfus's time in Waloed since Barnabas was already king before Cid became Lord Commander of Waloed. Would be a cool story to see how Cid became an outlaw and what did Barnabas do that made Cid become an outlaw.
I still remember my first time fighting him i had 1 potion left by the last phase and had to play very carefully
This fight was really fucking good even if it wasn't as cinematic as the last 2 ones. Thematically it rocks
I actually think this theme fits this scene better honestly.
I think this track's name was released--its called "The Riddle"
Odin’s abilities (after you defeat him) are really sick and probably the strongest out of all the Eikon’s. It’s a shame that his Zantetsuken ability requires you to have at least one other Odin ability to power it up, as having two will make it extremely fast to get to the final level but that leaves you with only 4 other slots for all the other Eikons.
yeah its really strong AOE skill, I like to parry but its hard to do so
Bahamut and Odin are honestly equal.
@aoto8897 Not really, Bahamut has one top skill that you should use and you shouldn’t be picking it as one of your 3 eikons if you’re min maxing. Odin is a must pick.
@@aoto8897 I feel like Bahamut was strong because of Gigaflare.
The rest was kinda "meh".
@@dinorex3464Impuls is really good for stagger enemy’s 😊
By far my fav fight in the game
2:00 this part is definitely inspired by Batman
Absolute awesome fight. Was my third favorite. Bahamut,Titan,Odin.
Barnabas should be the final boss. Ultima was so ridiculous compare to. Him
Ultima was op asf he was just boring
We need a game mode where it’s basically just eikon battle mode. So we can get a levitation fight and a Odin fight.
Damn, Odin is so cool
This song is just so badass.
Barnabas was a cheesy villain imo. Despite his edgy Shakespearean dialogue I had fun fighting him. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I also like FF16's iteration of Odin design-wise. It reminds me of Golbez.
I mean, he is a depressed 60 something year old philosopher king. He’s gonna talk all archaic and weird to express himself
Oh si, que extasisssss
Estaba buscando este temazo 🤌🏼🤌🏼
God this fight lit a flame in me like when fighting Sephiroth in KH2. Just 2 swordsmen going full throttle, there's just something about fights designed like dances to the death
Loved barnabas cus he was odin and voice actor for him was amazing other then that barnabas didn't seem to have a goal he just worshipped the hell out of ultima and had no mindset of his own just a puppet
That thumbnail is sick
i don't know why but every domini boss fight reminds me of the titans from attack on titan, the bosses are fucking well staged and if this doesn't become game of the year i don't know, good job square enix
I think this fight wouldve been perfectly fine if we got the chance to fight Odin as ifrit with shiva at the bottom of the sea and then clive loses there then this fight is fine as a man vs man fight here
I hope That song for Dissidia Final Fantasy for PS5.
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One thing that would have elevated this fight is a real, gameplay-integrated back and forth between Ifrit and Clive. It's seen that Ifrit has the advantage over Odin, but loses to Semi-Primed Barnabas because he can move easily around him, while Clive can take Barnabas on the ground. You could have had much more transformation/detransformation between the two, a true duel of master and simulate "mind games" between the two. Plus, sick-looking Clive-Ifrit combos is something missing from this game.
God, imagine if you had a Sin Devil Trigger mode where you just swap to Ifrit
@@jacobkern2060 they should allowed us to use hellfire as a OP ability in both Clive's eikon loadout and as Ifrit. Would have made him OP just as he should be
Official title: The Riddle
Sections of odins theme really remind me of pandemonium, especially the calmer version
Honestly while I do think this fight is pretty weak compared to the two that come before it, the fact that it feels a lot like a Dante v Vergil fight I love
Hmmm, we know Sleipnir isn't an Eikon and that it's basically just a construct of Odin.
Does this mean, given some extra time, the other Eikons could have their own ride of sorts? And if so, what should they ride?
Everyone keeps saying This is Clive vs Barnabas no Eikons. Did we do the same fight? This was Clive vs Barnabas and Odin. Barnabas Transforms several times vs Clive. So it shows that barnabas was out of his league and proves the team wanted to show odin but ran out of time.
This song reminds me so much of the serpent trench music in ff6
Does anyone else vaguely hear Corpse Hall (Odin’s 14 theme) in this?
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Really awesome OST
have you heard Muramasa theme?
@@MundusFate Why yes
Wait is that the guy who also sings in God Shattering Star from Fire Emblem Three Houses?
2:13 god shattering star singer?
Is it me or that Odin's helmet reminds of modred's helmet when in her armor?
His helmet reminds me more of Odin from 14, seems like they based his design on the previous Odin.
Can you please upload barnaba's theme? The one were he mets clive for the first Time?? Plss 🥺🥺
is it epci friend? I dont remember it
@@MundusFate oouuu yeah It Is, the theme sounds when he appeara after you defeat the first slepinir, It has kuja's theme vibe
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This is basically Ace vs Blackbeard 🔥⚔️🌌
This theme is amazing, but you could’ve extended it 😢
probably not since i know nothing about music, but maybe Soken was emulating march of the valkyries or similiar vibe with this piece.
do you like it? ^^
@@MundusFate yea i like each eikon theme tbh
The theme is mostly the same as Odin's in FFXIV
The second most epic eikon fight
For me, he and Hugo were skill checks. Cuz they made you knew how to properly use your eikons and dodge/parry. Barnabas more than Hugo for obvious reasons.
Was a bit let down by the fight. It was good but I was expecting one last final stage of eikon vs eikon, ifrit vs oden would have been cool af. Have them jumping around the towers as they all get sliced apart n shit.
What is this called on the ost?
"the riddle"