How to connect your BMS to Victron Venus OS. Easy setup and works with JK, JBP, DALY and Heltec.

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  • @rahsomali
    @rahsomali 2 года назад +3

    This probably is the most looked after topic since everyone has BMS that only works locally. Seriously please make video of this for each BMS manufacturer, way to go bud

  • @mattdabovich7685
    @mattdabovich7685 9 месяцев назад +2

    Again Andy. Hats off for sharing all you learn. Even when you don’t see the need. Super happy to see BMS details remotely.

  • @martijnheeroma5492
    @martijnheeroma5492 2 года назад +5

    Got this working some time ago, DVCC limits the charge current, how it is limiting is editable in Louis his script. So happy with it, Victron fan forever, send Louis a small donation for his great work. Thanks for the clear video

    • @melvindevries_nl
      @melvindevries_nl 3 месяца назад

      Do you mean that if you have (I will be using a 230A alternator) 2 Victron DCDC chargers of 50A each for a CATL self-built battery that consists out of 8 cells and has 2x 300Ah the BMS will charge at 100A towards 2 batteries? (50A per battery). Or should I configure the battery as one that has 600Ah capacity and have it accept 100A charge current?

    • @martijnheeroma5492
      @martijnheeroma5492 3 месяца назад

      @@melvindevries_nl with Louis his script you can connect you're bms to VenusOS if you can't with CAN

  • @louisbellanca9293
    @louisbellanca9293 Год назад +3

    Awesome work my friend - just set my VENUS PI up with my JK. I never would have known it was possible before Andy. Thanks "mate"
    Also 1 important bit of advice is that you do NOT NEED to connect the ground to the adapter since 485 is a balance signal - so this will eliminate the ground loops if BMS isloates.

  • @izakburger1580
    @izakburger1580 2 года назад +8

    As the guy who coined the DVCC acronym, I'm amused by your response. Well, I came up with the term, and my Dutch colleagues helpfully turned it into an acronym.

  • @AussieAustrian
    @AussieAustrian 2 года назад +2

    Thanks so much Andy. I work overseas and am gone for anywhere from 2-4 months at a time. This has convinced me to go off grid with confidence that I can manage all my BMS’ remotely. Thanks so much again.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад +3

      No worries. Be aware, you can only read the BMS information but not remotely change them.

    • @AussieAustrian
      @AussieAustrian 2 года назад +1

      Thanks Andy. Do you think this may become a feature of the next generation of BMS’? Having both Bluetooth and WiFi access to the BMS through the app? It seems to me that a WiFi BMS with the functionality of the JK-BMS with the balancing power of the Neey balancer would be the ultimate solution.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад +2

      @@AussieAustrian I don't know. It also adds some complexity to your system. And do you really need to know what your battery is doing if you're not at home? Once it is all setup and working, there is less and less need to have all these information from anywhere, I guess.

  • @PeterMilanovski
    @PeterMilanovski 2 года назад +1

    Another excellent video, well done Andy! There is no better channel regarding solar energy anywhere on the internet than this!
    I will be travelling up to Sydney in a week, for a week (two weddings).... And when I get back to Melbourne I will begin to save money for an AliExpress rackmount battery and this video is exactly what I needed to get it connected to the raspberry pi...
    Thank you so much for your time and energy that goes into whatever you do, it's always much appreciated...

  • @daolinhai
    @daolinhai Год назад +1

    Before yesterday I finally finished my 2 battery banks of each 16x23ßAH CATL cells and plugged the 2 JK BMS into my Cerbo GX with the 2 adapters boughts months ago, when I've seen this video. It worked like a charme, the Cerbo found them immediatly.
    Thanks for your work.
    Just the SOC the JK sends is far off the reality but I think this is depending to the really flat voltage curve of these cells. I dont care about that. For testing I switched the balancing on, the cells are at around 10% soc and the difference in voltage has been around 0,020V. A few hours later, they have been perfectly balanced. Now I'll go with your setting at 3,45V for balancing.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  Год назад +1

      Thanks for the feedback. Great success!
      You definitely want a smart shunt or BMV to measure both banks together. The SOC is always off in my JK. But also in the Heltec and Overkill BMS. They are all different 😂

    • @daolinhai
      @daolinhai Год назад +1

      @@OffGridGarageAustralia Thanks. I‘ll watch that a few cycles and decide then, if its important for me or not.
      The Multi works anyway with its own parameters above my JK shutdown settings. We‘ll see.

    • @daolinhai
      @daolinhai Год назад +1

      @@OffGridGarageAustralia So. I ordered the Smartshunt. And then I‘ll disable the communication between victron and JK. The JK lowers the charging current far too early, my batteries would never get full this way.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  Год назад

      @@daolinhai Yeah, the communication of these BMS is not great as we know. They kind of work but are not reliable.
      The Smart Shunt is the better alternative to measure SOC correctly.

  • @extremeacc101
    @extremeacc101 2 года назад +9

    Once Louis sorts out the multiple BMS interface/software this will be a game changer I believe. For now it’s the use of an external shunt. Thank you Andy for all your work on this a very awesome tutorial.

    • @andreasziegenfeldt8319
      @andreasziegenfeldt8319 2 года назад

      Is it not possible to connect more then one JKBMS at the time?

    • @waltsteinchen
      @waltsteinchen 2 года назад +2

      @@andreasziegenfeldt8319 I have connected 2 JK BMS's and they seem to work. Only problem is that they both show up with the same name in the device list ... did not find an option to rename them so far ...but otherwise I think the driver is great!

    • @freeranger1677
      @freeranger1677 Год назад +2

      @@andreasziegenfeldt8319 JKBMS now has the option for changing the device address in the app advanced settings. This may make it possible to use more than one JKBMS.

    • @professional_hackjob
      @professional_hackjob 10 месяцев назад

      Does it aggregate the totals for showing a combined SOC in VRM?

  • @tacotuesdaytj5683
    @tacotuesdaytj5683 11 месяцев назад

    Great video! Used your instructions with no issues. Purchased the converter from Overkill solar for my BMS, plugged it in, immediately recognized and showing data. Thanks again!

  • @rudisoft
    @rudisoft 2 года назад +2

    Thanks a lot! I installed the driver right into a Cerbo GX device and it works! Still have to figure out the node red running on another Raspi though.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  Год назад +1

      Thanks, same here, haven't done any Node Red programming yet. Not sure if it is necessary or beneficial...

  • @matthewsmith4219
    @matthewsmith4219 2 года назад +1

    USB to TTL 4-pin Wire specification:
    Embedded convertor: PL2303
    Connector: USB Type-A plug, 4-pin 2.54mm pinheader
    Pinout:
    Red - VCC (5V)
    Black - GND
    Green - TXD (3.3V TTL, connects to target RXD)
    White - RXD (3.3V TTL, connects to target TXD)
    Length: 1m

  • @servisfibris6679
    @servisfibris6679 2 года назад +2

    Top section voltage and bottom section voltage is the upper and lower half of the battery from which you can calculate mid point deviation. So as you have 4 cells, then top is first 2 cells together and bottom are cells 3 and 4. :)

  • @markdavidson6321
    @markdavidson6321 2 года назад +7

    Another of your videos that is going to cost me money. 😄Thanks for all the hard work deciphering this stuff and getting it to work. Huge time saver for the rest of us!

  • @daviddecker264
    @daviddecker264 2 года назад +1

    I'm blown away. I didn't know about these configurations. Good job to show details that work and how to troubleshoot.

  • @OckertM
    @OckertM 2 года назад +2

    Andy, first time commenter here. I've watched alot toe most of your off grid garage videos the last 2 months. The "van der Walt" part was good but the name is like Loo-ee (I'm also from South Africa)
    Keep up the great work! Looking forward to every single new video while I watch some more older ones😎

    • @izakburger1580
      @izakburger1580 2 года назад

      Indeed. Louis is technically a French name, so you pronounce it exactly like you would the name of "King Louis the whatever'th". The surname is indeed Dutch. Why does he have a French/Dutch name? Because he is South African of course.
      (And yes, if you recognise my name... yes I am that guy).

    • @jimjones7821
      @jimjones7821 2 года назад

      lekker man

  • @Shep5847
    @Shep5847 2 года назад +5

    Im happy to see you finally give the integration a try! I’m glad that was easy for you. Batrium works natively (without Venus mods) and can handle many different battery packs at once and report as a single storage system while still giving individual pack and cell visibility. It can also handle 500 or 1000amps depending on the shunt you choose to get with it. I highly recommend the 1k version. It works much better with large cables. Would you like to try one? I might have one laying around that I can ship to you to play with.
    Also if you turn on “Has dc system” in the VenusOS, then you’ll get the little marching ants showing a charge coming from a dc source that is not part of the victron system. I.e. your desktop charger.

  • @jasondevine6014
    @jasondevine6014 2 года назад +1

    +1 for node red. Should do a video about this now. Also maybe a mention of the ground.connection if you turn off a battery with the BMS connected still. Great video. Good to hear the Venus does charge controller control.based off the serialbattery driver.

  • @christianhuber3725
    @christianhuber3725 Месяц назад

    Hi Andy
    A detailed video like this about the JK BMS new generation would be great and a help for me and 1000 others as there are still many problems in the world

  • @sorinnicolau6584
    @sorinnicolau6584 2 года назад +2

    Thank you Andy for all your work on this a very important job..well done!

  • @JHies111
    @JHies111 5 месяцев назад

    Hi Andy, i´ve made the installation on a Cerbo and it works perfect. Thanks from France

  • @edwardvanhazendonk
    @edwardvanhazendonk 2 года назад +3

    Extremely helpful, thanks for sharing and the work involved!

  • @bbrown_sc
    @bbrown_sc 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for reviewing Louis' driver. Look forward to the CAN bus Seplos equivalent. BTW SA was settled by the Dutch.

    • @izakburger1580
      @izakburger1580 2 года назад

      Indeed. And a bunch of French people came here too (The Huguenots) . And some Germans. And the Brits were involved as well, as they always are. And for a really short period the French had control of the Cape too, before the Dutch got it back. Control over shipping lanes were important back then.
      So that is why you have a guy with a French name and a Dutch surname 🙂

    • @jimjones7821
      @jimjones7821 2 года назад

      ​@@izakburger1580 ag nee man - its all lekker bru

  • @extremeacc101
    @extremeacc101 2 года назад +1

    Yes yes yes. I am so time poor and I’m glad you have been able to get this done. I have been trying to get this happen for so long now. Thank you Andy for this. I’m sure Paul Will be interested in this also. I know moving forward I would like to use this feature for my set ups.

  • @hudiny1626
    @hudiny1626 Год назад +1

    Your videos are very good. I was also inspired, and I will also do the BMS connection that you showed here. Keep up the good work!

  • @FutureSystem738
    @FutureSystem738 2 года назад +1

    Thanks as always Andy… Great stuff, maybe something I’ll look at later in my project.
    There are some clever people out there, waaay above my level.

  • @keyem4504
    @keyem4504 2 года назад +5

    The GPS port on the JK BMS is in fact a TTL serial port. Your black box is a TTL to rs485 converter. You could have used a ttl2usb converter instead of the two converters you used. You would have to supply power to the converter, however.
    And a warning: The rightmost pin is connected to battery +, therefore you have battery voltage there!

    • @bishwagit
      @bishwagit 2 года назад

      @Andy please try this suggestion. If you succeed, it will be a game changer

    • @patrickcourtot6417
      @patrickcourtot6417 Год назад +1

      Right. I just only cut the cable and connected it directly to a TTL to USB and everything is working fine

  • @DaleDaschner
    @DaleDaschner 2 года назад +2

    Andy, there is an amazing software you should look at that runs on a raspberry pi. It’s called solarassistant, it’s also created by South Africans with an amazing level of detail from inverters/batteries for data collection with full control of your inverter. Excellent product. Highly recommend.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад +2

      Thanks a lot for letting us know. I'll definitely have a look. Sounds interesting.
      Edit: Does not seem they support Victron...

    • @dabbsy81
      @dabbsy81 2 года назад +1

      I also use solarassistant, its been plug and play for me with 2 inverters, 2 jbd bms. Integration into homeassistant is also excellent, your able to change inverter settings using automations. No victron support except for the smartshunt. Developer is very responsive so he might be working on it.

    • @DaleDaschner
      @DaleDaschner 2 года назад

      @@dabbsy81 absolutely, it’s an excellent system.

  • @matthewsmith4219
    @matthewsmith4219 2 года назад

    Waveshare Industrial USB To RS485 Converter with FT232RL Chip works a treat

  • @excillisbank2611
    @excillisbank2611 2 года назад

    Une recherche sur l’interaction avec les BMS et une présentation impeccable ! merci ANDY

  • @airkopter
    @airkopter 2 года назад +1

    Hallo Andy.
    Vielen Dank für deine genial gut erklärenden Videos.
    Lass dir dein Bier schmecken.
    Gruß von Frank aus Hamburg

  • @theboov3110
    @theboov3110 2 года назад

    Thanks Andy, again a perfect story. I have ordered the Victron Cerbo GX to optimize my off-grid system. Hopefully connecting the BMS to the Cerbo GX will incorporate the info to manage my system. BR Peter.

    • @christophe3195
      @christophe3195 Год назад

      have you managed to connect the bms directly to the cerbo gx (without the raspberry). thanks

  • @blainekcook
    @blainekcook 2 года назад

    Thanks!

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      Thank you very much for your donation. It is much appreciated. Thanks heaps!

  • @martinmooren9536
    @martinmooren9536 2 года назад +1

    I installed my smartshunt last week... 😄
    Danke for another interesting video as always!

  • @Dutch_off_grid_homesteading
    @Dutch_off_grid_homesteading Год назад

    Heya, nice that there is this community whitch help those who needs help

  • @repairman2be250
    @repairman2be250 2 года назад

    Andy thanks you for another very well presented with excellent information / howto video. At minute 30:51 I thought what a nice emergency beacon that is.

  • @zzyrc842
    @zzyrc842 2 года назад +6

    Moin Andi, very interesting video! But be aware of ground connectivity: Ground on your BMS communication port will be B-, simply because these interfaces should also work when the BMS has shutdown the battery. Ground on your inverter or DC/DC converter is P-. So if you connect both your BMS and inverter to the same raspberry pi without using at least one USB adapter with galvanic isolation, you've created an alternative path for the current to flow as soon as the BMS turns off the battery. This will surely fry at least one of the components in the path. So be careful what you connect.

    • @danielvanaalst2460
      @danielvanaalst2460 2 года назад +1

      Unfortunately that is very correct. This is the reason my rapberry pi does not work anymore. The BMS tripped, and the Raspberry died by trying to handle 290A...
      Maybe an isolated serial converter would be cheaper at long term ;-) greetings from Germany from someone who's waiting on his spare raspberry ;-)

    • @nunopalma2830
      @nunopalma2830 2 года назад

      Learned this the hard way ... have now two USB to RS485 devices broken , hope they are the only thing that got broken ...

    • @rodneyhrytsak3407
      @rodneyhrytsak3407 11 месяцев назад

      Can you please recommend a suitable USB adapter with galvanic isolation?

  • @MrRickjamez88
    @MrRickjamez88 4 месяца назад

    Note that connecting the Daly bms using the UART to USB cable will create an earth link. If the bms disconnects the main earth, the entire load will try to run through the small earth in the UART to USB cable.

    • @Darkbluesstar
      @Darkbluesstar 3 месяца назад

      You're right! Several months ago I found a warning (in the WWW) ...AFTER my min Voltage went to 2,5V (panic!)
      After that (cells are not completely damaged but loose capacity) I cut off GND of the DALY to USB cable (it works without at my installation).
      Never checked this again, but looks like that DALY only CUT-OFF "- pole" OR did not recognize very low power consumption.
      Keeping a DC-DC converter (for Raspi) to Plus and Minus out of Batt (outside Daly) while connecting UART to USB (with GND) the Raspi
      works again without real Cut-OFF (my problem during COVID I don't recognized early enough)
      With the cut of GND at the cable I never tried again to test
      ( but I created some additional " Secure Cut OFF" scripts to shut-down my inverter at 20% SOC, OR shut OFF at min cell voltage at 3,15V)
      And yes ....using IObroker (separate) as additional control of Venus (provided by NodeRed on Venus to IObroker)

  • @danieldewindt3919
    @danieldewindt3919 Год назад

    Grate explanation. I was completeley new to this all.
    Didn't expect it to work kind of out of the box 🎁

  • @TheLennybam
    @TheLennybam 2 года назад

    Danke!

  • @svenwilhelmi5054
    @svenwilhelmi5054 2 года назад

    Thank you for another great video.
    As others have already described, it also works without the RS485 converter.
    Greetings from Off-Grid-Germany

  • @upnorthandpersonal
    @upnorthandpersonal 2 года назад +27

    That adapter is actually a mess: it contains an entire microcontroller to convert the TTL signal coming out of the BMS to true RS-485. Then you need the USB adapter to essentially convert that RS-485 signal back to TTL... I told Nami they should just provide a simple TTL-USB module and be done with it. You can also make a cable and use a TTL/USB adapter and skip their RS-485 adapter.

    • @gavinnoname1424
      @gavinnoname1424 2 года назад +3

      That was my approach to.
      Purchased a connector for the JKBMS port and connected the three wires to a USB TTL adapter.

    • @dennisrohrich6006
      @dennisrohrich6006 2 года назад +2

      Do you have links to the plugs and converter?

    • @gavinnoname1424
      @gavinnoname1424 2 года назад +5

      @@dennisrohrich6006 I remember doing allot of searching to find the connector...its not a JST connector which is what most people will initially think. the connector for the JKBMS is a Molex PicoBlade.
      Then you just need a USB to FTDI/TTL adapter. Then connect the three wires (GND, TX, RX)

    • @alexanderp.8075
      @alexanderp.8075 2 года назад +1

      Yes, I only use a simple TTL adapter that is connected directly to the BMS. since the rs485 adapters n did not work.

    • @GarethJones-dk9yp
      @GarethJones-dk9yp 2 года назад +1

      @@alexanderp.8075 could you share a photo. Ive got mine connected via the jkbms adaltor and then the waveshare. to me it didnt seem right.

  • @justinreynolds9669
    @justinreynolds9669 2 года назад

    Tried this out and found out that with multiple types of BMS like I have on my system that the smart shunt was the more accurate method. Unplugged it from my PI and plugged it back into a pc just to every now and again monitor the BMS

  • @ktacatalin3715
    @ktacatalin3715 8 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Andy. I'm currently having JK BMS (24S variant - 48V) connected to Raspberry Pi with just a simple PL2303 module through GPS port as well, and not with RS485/CAN port. I don't have all your fractional modules to get USB-RS232 TTL conversion, but PL2303 only and solar assistant environment(which is working great). Nevertheless I will soon migrate to Victron environment and my assumption is that JK BMS & PL2303 setup will work with Cerbo because I know already works with solar assistant. My question is if the driver (that you've installed) doesn't affect in any way the Victron system functionality...Thanks.

  • @bjornemmy
    @bjornemmy 2 года назад +2

    Nice! If i knew this when i started i might never have gone the Batrium route, do 't get me wrong its a amazing piece of kit, but premium pricetag aswell...
    I understand the raspberry is a budget or a "opensource" choice, the Cerbo is a bit more expencive i Guess but it hase loads of features that make it cheaper then the raspberry if you need them, sensor inputs, relais, etc.

  • @renemullie3131
    @renemullie3131 10 месяцев назад

    Bedankt

  • @milan2931
    @milan2931 2 года назад +1

    Regarding switching the JK BMS on and off without an external 5V battery: install a pushbutton switch on the connector for LCD pin 1 and 2 (pin 1 is on the left side). Hold for 1 sec and the BMS will switch on. If the button is held for 5 sec, the BMS will switch off.

  • @wideawaketotruth5301
    @wideawaketotruth5301 2 года назад

    Absolutely brilliant Andy. You definitely rock my friend! Thank you so much for taking the time to put this video together. Cheers 🍺
    Rick Fort Worth Texas.

  • @matthewsmith4219
    @matthewsmith4219 2 года назад +1

    The plug for JK bms comm is 4 pins micro Jst 1.25mm pinch --------- jks Rs485 port is actually a TTL uart that is turned into rs485 with optional converter so you can directly connect a ttl to usb converter it works with Victron Venus os Raspberry Pi tested with jk B2A8S20P 😊

    • @Jannes54321
      @Jannes54321 Год назад

      great bit of information, thank you very much! I will investigate this aswell as soon as my JK B2A24S20P arrives.

    • @paulsharp1712
      @paulsharp1712 Год назад

      Which ttl convertor?

  • @evanelder9995
    @evanelder9995 5 месяцев назад

    Would love to see CAN Bus working if you get a chance to make a video covering that. Very helpful though, thanks

  • @ghurkas123
    @ghurkas123 2 года назад +3

    Love your videos! How would one go about to connect to a proper Cerbo GX and not a PI? Still with USB in the same manner?

    • @christophe3195
      @christophe3195 Год назад

      do you have the answer to your question? thanks

    • @ghurkas123
      @ghurkas123 Год назад

      @@christophe3195 Sort of but not really ;-) still curious though.

  • @kevloos86
    @kevloos86 2 года назад

    Overkill bms sells the adapter on their website for their devices if anyone is looking in that department.

  • @typxxilps
    @typxxilps 2 года назад +2

    no SEPLOS at all or just post poned for the future ?

  • @danielardelian2
    @danielardelian2 2 года назад

    When DVCC is Enabled, the BMS could send these three parameters to Venus: Discharge Current Limit, Charge Current Limit and Charge Voltage Limit (DCL, CCL, CVL). I wonder if this serialbattery driver sent any values for these parameters. They should be visible in the Venus menu under SerialBattery (jkbms) / Parameters, shown at 22:07 in your video.

    • @gavinnoname1424
      @gavinnoname1424 2 года назад +1

      Yes it does send these values.
      You can also turn this feature on/off in the drivers configuration.

  • @martinaupperle220
    @martinaupperle220 2 года назад

    The two BMS show different SoC initially. It would be interesting to see how "smart" they really are in determining the correct value (whatever "correct" means) and how long that takes.

  • @philipardvall1968
    @philipardvall1968 Год назад +1

    Did exactly as you and no errors when installing it but when I plug it in nothing appears and after some troubleshooting it can’t recognise my Daly BMS and when I connect MPPT it’s saying Not Connected but without Daly usb connected everything around Victron worked just fine

    • @Darkbluesstar
      @Darkbluesstar Год назад

      I don't know if you are using a Cerbo or Raspi, but you have to connect all when you install all. After that, you need to do a reboot (login by ssh and "shutdown -r 0")!
      I don't use self-made cables or any adapters. I only use original cables from Victron and Daly... works very fine.
      Don't forget to switch to the "large" version and to apply DCC otherwise you won't see "Daly".

    • @philipardvall1968
      @philipardvall1968 Год назад

      @@Darkbluesstar thanks for reply, I use RP 3 and bought the same Daly adapter that Andy linked to. The strange thing is after I’ve installed the plugin and connect Victron again it just say Not Connected but when the Daly adapter isn’t plugged in works perfect

  • @svalkaer-t2t
    @svalkaer-t2t 7 дней назад

    I have bought an B1A8S10P-Heat-CAN JK BMS, and i cannot get the communication to work. I have bought the same RS485 adapters as you have. Could there be a limit in the BMS even though it has an GPS (RS485) port where the cable fits. The driver can see the serial adapter but doesn't connect

  • @ChapuzasconRober
    @ChapuzasconRober Год назад

    Thanks for the video. I hope he can remove the limitation of one BMS (I need for 16 😮)

  • @eagle5720
    @eagle5720 2 года назад +1

    I'm wondering if my Xiaoxiang BMS can communicate with EG4 inverter using the rs485 on the bms but it seems like I have to solder a connector. Anyone know if this will work?

  • @zelektroelektrotechnik7933
    @zelektroelektrotechnik7933 2 года назад

    Moin Andy, vielen Dank für das top Video, Grüße aus Stralsund

  • @megamoosecat
    @megamoosecat Год назад

    HI thanks for this wonderful simple channel. I'm new to this and I'm trying to install a Campervan solar system. I see that you are connecting a BMS to a RPi except none of them are inside a sealed lithium battery. I have built the raspberry pi and want to make all the connections. I know I'm sounding a bit stupid here, but the Eco Worthy batteries are not smart. They will be connected to a Victron smart charger controller. How does the BMS turn the battery off in case of low voltage disconnect. Is it through the plus and minus connects? As I'm using Eco Worthy batteries with JBD-HP28SA BMS what type of RJ485 connectors will I need to connect to the RPi, will victron RJ485 to USB work? I'm confused because I fitted an EPEVER BN Tracer controller with an MT50 display, this seemed to work, but if you're connecting an inverter to the battery how quickly can a solar controller switch off the battery through the BMS. I just seems that as the display has comms to the controller but not to the battery (no wires) how does the BMS know what to do? Again for those not to bright people who are not going to open up their batteries to try and connect a BMS physically could you show how to do this with a sealed non smart lithium battery and a raspberry Pi? Many thanks

  • @swenhess3964
    @swenhess3964 6 месяцев назад

    Hi Andy
    Which driver should be installed for the Daly BMS? Do you also know a solution to display the data in iobroker? Thank you very much for your help!

  • @sondt308
    @sondt308 2 месяца назад

    Let me ask, I want to read data from JK BMS using USB to RS485 as shown in the video. Because I read the company's documents, I have to send a command line and then JK BMS will respond to the data from the battery, right?

  • @pulith5220
    @pulith5220 2 года назад

    Hi great video but some times i think you cant connect bcz CAN port of the bms and inverter has to hv the same protocols but sometimes they don't match atleast mine don't. I hv a darly bms n my inverter is a EASUN n they both hv CAN but the protocols are different that's what I hear so it's unable to connect to each other.
    SO ON OTHER NEWS....
    what happened with the electrician what was the feedback that you got.
    Never heard the feedback you got about the heltec BMS if it was able to be calibrated.

  • @Benn19840425
    @Benn19840425 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the Video. Is it also possible to use the CAN/RS485 port to connect JK BMS to Cerbo GX instead of using the GPS port?

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      From what they told me, they have modified the BMS for the 4S version and therefore the GPS port is now the comms port. So the actual CAN/RS485 port at the BMS is not the comms port any more.
      That makes so no sense at all.
      I've got a Cerbo here now and will do more testing with the communication. Doing all this on a Pi seems not very beginner friendly.

  • @ShaneS071
    @ShaneS071 Год назад

    have you tried connecting a Victron Energy Smart Battery Sense to the Raspberry pi Venus OS setup

  • @amilww
    @amilww 2 года назад

    So interesting!
    A very informative video
    Thanks a lot

  • @benystark6299
    @benystark6299 Год назад

    It's already 1 year since you published this video, so I'm pretty late with commenting. However, it's interesting to see the Vevus OS on a Raspberry, however I got an Cerbo from Victron and wonder if I can use the serial connection between my JK-BMS (8-24 batteries) and the Cerbo directly like I connect the two Victron chargers (150/35) with the VE-direct cable. It's also a serial connection. Does the Cerbo-S GX "talk" with the JK-BMS directly?

  • @andrepallotta8633
    @andrepallotta8633 9 месяцев назад

    Hello wonderfull video.
    I bought the same bms i d like to connect with a computer with rs485 and jk computer software.
    Did you do ?
    Could do a video about rs485 connexion ?
    Where to find last firmware ?
    Thanks.

  • @wayne8113
    @wayne8113 2 года назад

    Thanks Andy, and thank you Louis

  • @MatejUram-y6z
    @MatejUram-y6z Год назад

    Hi Andy,
    thanks a lot for this video. I tried to connect daly to cerboGX and I wasnt succesfull. Now, I know how. But q about battery. I have 16 cells in my home as battery connected together with Daly BMS, but becouse this didnt work, I use Victron Shunt. Many times I cant see real SOC. For example, based on volatge SOC it should be on 95%, but it is only on 65%. Do you know what can be wrong?
    One more q:
    I am using 3 x Victron Multiplus II 48V/3000VA/35-32A on 3 phases + MPPT from Victron as well. When I have 52.2V in battery /whitch is SOC on 50%/ and I turn on oven with 3400V consumption, battery felt on 49.5V immediately /sometimes even less/ and I have to take energy from the grid. Its happening in your case also? Or it is because I don't have proper info about battery in Cerbo?
    Now I am thinking to buy next 16 cells /same producer of LiFePO4 - EVE prismatic/ and connect it to my system, because I want to change my Multiplus 3000 for Multiplus 48V/5000VA/70-50A. Will be 560Ah battery enough for this system? It is better to keep as 2 different batteries like in your case, or will be better create on 560A battery (Iam using my actual battery for 6month already? In case that I will use as one battery, I have to connect my 16s Daly BMS on 2 cells instead on. It will be not a problem with balancing?
    Will I solved it also issue with battery softness?

  • @Elektronik-EXTREM
    @Elektronik-EXTREM Год назад

    Thanks! your video helped me a lot!
    what happens if the BMS breaks the minus? Does the current flow through the communication cables? does it make sense to equip the BMS with a USB isolartor?

  • @ericdos9680
    @ericdos9680 7 месяцев назад

    Hello for the New jk bms PB2A16S15P version it is the same process? I think we need a hoser cable or adapter ? If yes what is it?
    Thk for your answer.

  • @retrozmachine1189
    @retrozmachine1189 2 года назад

    When it comes to USB serial ports, be aware that the cheapies often do not have unique serial numbers. This isn't an issue if you have just one of them connected to a linux system but it can cause issues if there is more than one. The waveshare ports do have unique serial numbers, and are stable too, ie they don't just randomly stop working requiring a device reset etc.

    • @freakazoidz23
      @freakazoidz23 2 года назад

      That's maybe the reason why only the expensive one works with my EM24. Cheap RS485 to USB interfaces did not work.

    • @retrozmachine1189
      @retrozmachine1189 2 года назад +1

      @@freakazoidz23 If you are using linux you can check the serial number easily enough. Execute lsusb (usually present), note the device ID then lsusb -vd followed by the device ID

  • @gavinnoname1424
    @gavinnoname1424 2 года назад +2

    I'm not sure what those JKBMS Adapters are for....I was able to connect my JKBMS without them.
    Just connect the JKBMS to your TTL Adapter and the SerialBus Driver will pick it up

    • @65mindi
      @65mindi 2 года назад

      Finally!!! Andy goes smart way! Thanks for video and introduction of BMS guru!

    • @tassieflash63
      @tassieflash63 2 года назад

      I'm pretty sure that the JKBMS Adapter is for isolation.

    • @gavinnoname1424
      @gavinnoname1424 2 года назад

      @@tassieflash63 when Andy turned the adapter over I was able to see that it's an RS485 converter.
      The JKBMS outputs TTL and the adapter rewrites it to RS485 protocol.
      I think it's simpler to read the TTL directly and cut out the $15 cable.

  • @lecramred4453
    @lecramred4453 Год назад

    Thank you Andy, it works!

  • @nielsdelrue7242
    @nielsdelrue7242 6 месяцев назад

    Hi andy i am looking to connect my daly bms with the cerbo gx now my qeustion is can you do that with multiple battery's that way ?
    I have now 2 48v 304ah battery's that i wil connenct that way maybee later even more battery's.
    I hope you have the answer for this.
    Thanx

  • @alexanderp.8075
    @alexanderp.8075 2 года назад

    Thanks Andy for the info that the jk rs485 adapters are different.
    I have two here that you say are for the 4/8s BMS.
    and they don't work on the 24s BMS.
    I'm pretty sure that one of these adapters roasted my connection port on a BMS.
    so take care

  • @simsondude3519
    @simsondude3519 2 года назад

    For the JK B2A24S15P you need to connect the RS485 adapter to the GPS port as well. See port description on Ali page of JK BMS. Very confusing ;->
    Thanks for explaining it in general.

  • @nicolaskahn3996
    @nicolaskahn3996 Год назад

    Thank you it works well with jk bms and rasberry pi3 but is it possible to install it in a motorhome without wifi? in local bluetooth mode ?

  • @a-c-g
    @a-c-g 2 года назад +2

    Is the Victron usb to rs485 not suitable for this?

  • @arturkarwowski1163
    @arturkarwowski1163 2 года назад

    Thank you Andy for next good film, I have a new cerbo gx still under warranty or can I also connect my jkbms?

  • @lawrencecraig
    @lawrencecraig Год назад

    This is great video. I have connected my JK BMS to the Raspberry Pi via the light blue RJ485 that you show. I get a yellow flashing on the TX light when active. However the logging on the Pi shows ERROR:SerialBattery:>>> ERROR: No reply - returning on the JK BMS. Is there any further configuration I have to do? Do I have to specify the USB port? Thanks

  • @francoistalabot8487
    @francoistalabot8487 Год назад

    Hi and a big thanks for your videos! Do you know if Super B batteries BMS can ne connected to Victron and how. UP to now I havent found

  • @vfast007
    @vfast007 Год назад

    I have connected my JK BMS to my cerbo ok. I enabled DVCC and my Smartsolar controller went into a remote control which was expected. The issue I had was the pack would never charge above 53v. I assume this is coming from the JK but couldn't see where or how this was configured. How are the charge settings defined with DVCC and the JK or am I better just with JK data which is nice and a custom Victron charge profile?

  • @rolandluders7957
    @rolandluders7957 Год назад

    I connected one of my batteries to venus on an rasbpi. Now i have three 24V/304Ah Banks in parallel connected to a Smartshunt. So I can see the total current af them. There is a voltage drop from the connection cables and fuses of each bank. therefore is the dedected Voltage of the shunt not exactly the battery voltage. It would be better when the Voltage would used from the BMS. Is that possible?

  • @matthewsmith4219
    @matthewsmith4219 2 года назад

    adding to post below abort 20min ago all sorts alarm from the BMS But how as it not plug in to raspberry pi ? bug in system ! low call voltage - high change current

  • @ascotthortersqu6622
    @ascotthortersqu6622 2 года назад

    Thank you for let us know how to connect a BMS to our Victron’s. But I guess, that many of us have more than one Battery Bank. So what is happen when using more than one BMS?

  • @dabo5068
    @dabo5068 Год назад +1

    Hi Andy. I have a question. Do you consider to try with some chinese inverter to see if it is working with Venus Os ? Thanks and have a great day !

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  Год назад +1

      They won't work with Victron as they don't have any compatible communication ports like VE.Direct or VE.Can.
      Such inverters don't even show up in the system. Only a few do, I think SMA and Fronius are compatible.

    • @dabo5068
      @dabo5068 Год назад +1

      Yes I know about Fronius. It is compatible with Victron. Thanks for your answer 👍🏻

  • @upper_deck
    @upper_deck Год назад

    Hello Andy, I am an avid follower of your videos and am always waiting for the next one. - I hope you find time to answer me, because I know that you get a lot of comments in the block due to the many followers - I have a question about the different BMS solutions that you have presented and some of which you are also using yourself . I built two 24V batteries, each with 8 EVE280Ah cells, and decided on the Jaibada BMS with the "thick" relay. I have these batteries running in parallel. Unfortunately, one of these BMS has failed. It can no longer be set to 8 cells and therefore reports low voltage to the cells that are not present. I've decided to replace this BMS but don't want to use the JBD BMS anymore as I'm not that happy with the relay solution, although galvanic isolation also has advantages. Now to the question: Which of the solutions you are using would you recommend as the best? My requirements are 24V (8 cells), max. load current 100A, possible connection to VenusOS and iOS and satisfactory balancing. I also use a Heltec balancer. - I would be happy if you could give me a tip. - Ich danke Dir schon mal im voraus für Deine Antwort.

  • @Alex_Luk
    @Alex_Luk 4 месяца назад

    Does anyone know if this solves the SOC issue with JK BMS? Or will it still show the wrong SOC data in the Venos OS?

  • @seanathanq
    @seanathanq Год назад

    Is there an update to this,? I clicked the links you have and i am sure its somewhere in the link but it does not appear to be the same as what you have, i cant find just one like to copy and paste into the Raspberry Pi, thank you for the help

  • @larswittenberg9904
    @larswittenberg9904 2 года назад +1

    Hallo Andy, erstmal Danke für deine tollen Videos ich sehe sie gerne und verfolge es sehr intensiv. Hab mal eine Frage geht ein JK bms auch ohne Akku nur mit einem Labornetzteil um die Verbindung zwischen Cerbo gx und JK herzustellen?

  • @ShaneS071
    @ShaneS071 Год назад

    can you have 2 different devices reading 2 different voltages? example - shunt reading 55vdc battery and a BMS reading 12v battery

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  Год назад

      Yes, you can but you can use only one of these devices as your battery monitor.

  • @RolandOfGileadOnYT
    @RolandOfGileadOnYT 2 года назад

    Great video, turns out I have a few of the parts required.
    When using an inverter/charger (230V), I've noticed the current reading of the BMS fluctuates wildly, a known problem. Will using the BMS as a battery monitor mess up the results for the GX? The Victron shunt doesn't suffer this problem.

  • @holgerwinkelmann6219
    @holgerwinkelmann6219 9 месяцев назад

    How you can have 12V and 48V Mixed in one System?

  • @Thunderst0rn
    @Thunderst0rn 11 месяцев назад

    Hi, how do you do this with a cerboGX instead of a raspi? Just plug in the rs485 to usb adapter? Thanks!

  • @ragohy
    @ragohy 2 года назад

    Hallo Andy, Danke für die Informationen. Habe Deinen Kanal sofort abonniert. Sehr sympathisch!
    Grüße aus Unterfranken, Würzburg 😀.

  • @Cooldudeblue261
    @Cooldudeblue261 2 года назад +1

    Hi Andy I also cant get the waveshare canbus to work ?? :(

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      I'll talk about this in the next video. I have it installed on the Raspi but it does not show any data from the Seplos nor does it show up in Victron as a Battery Monitor as the RS485 adapters. I'm lost with this solution

  • @ShaneS071
    @ShaneS071 4 дня назад

    Hi Andy, would someone need to install the BMS drivers or have they added them to the firmware, mainly Daly and JK Inverter or regular BMS's