I’m a person who only saw the movie and as soon as you said “you have a world where the superhero’s are wiped out by the supervillains” I said HUUUUUH?!
Hearing that Wesley's dad didnt want to deal with crimes involving children makes him a Villain with standards. The best kind of Villain in my opinion.
Wesley's father not involving himself crimes against children doesn't make him morally virtuous, he just didn't care and let it the crimes happen anyway without him. He still r a p e d and m u r d e r e d without remorse, as well as orchestrated events to unleash possibly the most evil supervillian in his world's history. Thankfully, everything that Wesley and the Fraternity managed to get away with would eventually come back to bite them all in Big Game.
The irony of Wesley talking about the lives of his readers, when the only reason he is able to do what he does is due to superpowers and money. Idk if this was the intent or not, but it makes Wesley even more insufferable.
To be honest I would prefer if this comic have more than six issues so we can see Wesley set of skills fighting against villains instead of just sniping them from distance
i think he had a weird magic "kills people" power, that operates through whatever weapon he chooses. but really it's mostly millar hating superheroes and wanting to shoot them and refusing to accept or imagine why that might not work.
actually a lot of villains could be taken out by 'mundane means', there is just this stupid rule of leftist comics writers that 'heroes can't kill villains'
The movie did actually explain why those assassins put so much trust in that 'loom of faith'. Fox (Angelina Jolie) told Wesley (James McAvoy) that she once refused to kill a target, but at a later point in time that target killed a lot of people (which would have been prevented if the target was killed). (It's also possible that Sloan (Morgan Freeman) said that, I don't remember all the details.)
I Actually just got done watching the movie again so it’s still pretty fresh. Basically Wesley is on top of a train with fox for his first kill and is like why am I killing this dude? Idk if he’s bad or evil o know nothing about him. And then fox says that before she joined the frat there was a federal judge, a good man with a family. This bad guy wanted to get a different judge that could be bought out so he sent a man. That man likes to kill people by tying their loved ones up and making them watch as he burns the target alive. I found out after I joined that man’s name came up, and someone from the frat decided to ignore it and a little girl lost her father. We kill one to potentially save thousands. So basically when she was a kid someone was supposed to kill the hitman that torched her dad and they didn’t. So now she takes the names from the loom as gospel.
The movie is making a lot more sense about fate and NOT stupid-looking villains that are even more ridiculous that the ones in the Batman lore. Even the impossible bullet turning like a motorcycle seem to fit well with the movie's general "noir: atmosphere.
@@bimapringgo Then the superheroes didn't succeed in getting rid of the villains. Instead, that'll just be a case of the greatest superheroes somehow, through a large leap in Logic or shitty writing, became villains themselves. Then again, with how unoriginal writers are these days, I'd say that such a stupid plotline is more likely to portrayed as " a world where supervillains don't exist ".
@@livelife4928 I think it wouldn't make sense if "supervillains didn't exist" because there wouldn't be anyone to stop, so there wouldn't be anyone doing anything "heroic" so there wouldn't be any heroes either
@@raditzhoneyham Natural disasters, terrible accidents, war, mysterious diseases, etc. Super Heroes don't exist to just punch bad guys, those things are still things for superheroes to stop or fight against
I'll never forget picking up the graphic novel and then learning to hate this movie. It was like the movie represented the gaslighting the supervillains did in the comic to make everyone forget that the villains took over.
Lol, that is a great way to put it. Of course it's also a studio too embarrassed by the concept of Comic Book Super Villians ruling a secret sociaty (the movie came out before the MCU was in full swing mind you) so they felt the need to "elevate it" with boring ass mundinity. Seriously, how would they be embarrassed by a secret sociaty of comic book supervillians and then turn around and present a magical weave as the reason these assasins kill people?
Same, I picked up the tradeback. And it was amazing, Evil Avengers before that movie trend was even a thing. Let alone an aversion. It was amazing. Even if Eminem should have been cast as Wesley. And what we get? "Bullets curve". Wesly's power was being the best assassin alive, and he was honestly kinda lame in the power department in Wanted.
I actually liked the movie better. I really didn't like any characters in this entire comic series. They should do a sequel of a surviving hero 'going rogue' from the values of heroes and instead goes "Punisher" with the goal of killing the entire super villian population in brutally fun brilliant sneaky fashion with Wesley being the final mark of The Five. It could be called "Rogue", the sequel to "Wanted".
This happened in Big Game, which acts as Endgame for Millarworld and was released last year. All the characters that Millar introduced, Kingsman, Kick Ass, Hit Girl, Huck, Prodigy and so on, unite to take down the Fraternity and all of them are killed, except for Nemesis, who miraculously survived. How it happens sucks though, but at least Wesley and the other assholes are killed
totally agree on Millar trying to be in edgelord. This comic book would be better if he toned it down a bit with the sex and mass murder. It's hard for me to get into a comic where the protagonist is so detestable. I wasn't rooting for Wesley, I honestly wouldn't have been mad if he died. I did like the book because there were some interesting characters though. Also, Wesley turned into "Mary Sue" character. In the course of a couple of months he became such a great assassin that he was able to kill dozens of much more experienced, better trained assassins?
The worst offence is not casting Morgan Freeman as Mr. Rictus. Mainly because it robbed us of Freeman saying "I don't fuck goats, Mr. Wesley. I make love with them."
Yeah but then he kills a nazi so magically this makes it good and he can say the N word till he get try . But scene he was in a secret villen cult who cover everything for him up And they technically did allowed him to say the N word anyway Yeah is the hero a bit of a merry sue or is it me .
@@ORaddlyispissedoff how . Let me remind you that the hero was in a secret villen organisation who let him do what he wants . And then he kills a Nazi So some how it makes it okay Agein . Dude this is a bit of merry sue story telling lock it up But the comic it self feels a bit like a parody It's easy to kill top vilens and hero's if they are talk dawn to be idiot's whit super powers The boys did it to It's easy to win the Battelle if you enames are to stupid to figure out how to use their powers . So they can kill civians at one point but this one guy who has no powers is so hard to kill some how I hope you getting what I am trying to say I try to give a bit of fair criticism .
I was expecting the future Nazi guy at least to see in the future to give a bit of challenges or the poison ivy to get defend by her plant's automatically Now this will make an epic combo 👌 . But no get Snape . And the hero or villen or anti hero it's still a. Bit rasist anyway . A bit mhe .
@derekpayneszubliminals7723 Yeah, he did write the boys after all. Though I believe the show did the concept better. I wonder a show for this can be better
the movie and the book are almost two different entities. If the movie used a different name, it would be straight up a original creation. Its a damn good action film, but as an adaption ,Dragon ball evolution was more fateful to the source materal, and saying that made me throw up a little in my mouth.
I was watching this while imaging a well done Wanted film casting Eminem and Halle Berry and a few others that fit the other roles. Completely accurate to the comic while being written way better than the comic at the same time
My boy. The Kontent King. Every video you put out is great. You cover the heavy adult comics. Shit is great. I always tell my friends about everything you drop.
I remember reading this in high school. Mark Millar was off his knocker. It’s a cool concept but it’s made as a an edge memory story with no compelling story.
I like the fact that Millar does not get involve in the productions based on his work. I am a big fan of creative licensing when stories travel across different media. I have to say that both the Wanted movie and the Jupiter tv show are actually interesting and good, standing on their own. They concentrate on lore and storytelling and adapt something fun for Hollywood and interesting for tv. The best part for me is that instead of having 2 stories, I got 4. Is like expecting a 2 dollar return off a 1-dollar investment and getting 4 dollars instead, absolutely loving it. I wish someone did Star Wars the same way.
in my opinion, some things shouldn't be adapted one to one from the source material. just because a movie or show isn't exactly like the source material doesn't make it worse, as long as the changes service the story or fix things that are not that good or frankly stupid in the original. and in my opinion, the movie is better than the comic.
it does make it worse. if the movie only going to use 1% of the source material, might as well make the movie its own fvcking IP instead of borrowing source material's name to get people to watch it, which is dumb. The movie would stand on its own better if it never did borrow the Wanted name and went with an original IP but noped... Borrows 2 scenes from the comics and using character's names and throwing out the rest I would not consider it an adaptation.
I love how you break these stories down. I agree that the "casual" mentions of rape and extreme violence are disturbing. But I think they are meant to be disturbing. This is a story of villains, unhinged and unchecked - likely what would happen in any world with "super powered" villains. There are no heroes here - just villains in power having a major power shift. With this in mind - I think most of the story still holds up 16 years later. Still didn't appreciate the ending, but I understand where Millar was coming from with essentially holding up a mirror to the reader for "enjoying" or "participating" in this orgy of violence... Good stuff. Keep up the good work bro!
I fully agree with you, but I also think the casual mention of rape is a bit too far over that line just because in my mind that scene is almost a throw away and has no relevance except making me fucking hate the protagonist more than I think I need too
@@user-up8jj4wj4i mark millar has admitted before he does it because that it is the best and cheap way to portray a villain. Make them do heinous taboo shit, rpe, torture before death, and the like, overall just twisted acts beyond just stealing money and world invasion. We cant really hold him accountable, he's a practicing catholic, he has a kid or two, showing heinous stuff through say the medium of comics doesnt really mean he condones it. I wouldnt say he's mangaka creepy. Writers sometimes want their bloat, throw away scenes with no relevance, he wanted to paint that house that way maybe you wanted it a different color, you can criticize a work but you should never say "it should be this way", just say i dont like it this way because... or "it couldve been better if"
the author is always a participant as well. they might say "i'm holding this up as a mirror to show how shitty you are" but they have to do that to themselves first. read the foreword to "a clockwork orange" for an author telling you the same thing.
If most of these villains could be stopped with a bullet then how were they able to beat their version of heroes like they must've had some real goofballs. Like they didn't have a frank castle?
I'm convinced, based on his different comics, Mark Millar does not know how to write endings or villains. He just knows how to come up with interesting universes.
Amiradi Coolisa Facts. I got Wanted randomly from Barnes and Noble back in the day not knowing what to expect. It was definitely money well spent and put me on to Mark Millar.
It's the treatment of the sick subject matter as just " a thing happened, things happen, so what?" combined with the relatability if the anti-hero main character. The attitude of the narrative is "aren't these villains sick and cool?"rather than how will they be stopped, why aren't they dead already?
Till this day I will never understand how they could screw up a movie of Wanted. It was almost as if they were too scared to delve into the superhero/villain aspect of it. So they decided to go with curving bullets around corners because that more realistic..?? 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Maybe they didn’t want to take a risk of making an edgy superhero themed movie that wasn’t even tied to marvel or dc. Don’t know if there were examples of movies like that working before kick ass that released 2 years later. I read somewhere that the curving bullet thing wasn’t in the original blueprint of the movie they put it in because Angelina Jolie said she wouldnt do the movie if they didn’t have a scene of her killing like 8 dudes and then herself with a single bullet.
Well can you give me a list of movies who are comic book inspired or adapted who Hollywood didn't screwd up . Granted some comic's can get to over the top but ..... When you try to adapt it this will give some red flag for some people .
The Hollywood version of humpy Dumpty . He was working in a burger joint till a sexy queen in a LaTeX show up and says . Come with me your the chosen one . Humpy ughhh aaa okay miss he said in a stupid way 4 min after a rocky montage from the 80s He is killing people and learn to talk less stupid . Scriming LONG LIVE THE QUEEN while some song from Queen is playing in the background . The killer Queen one . Yeah let's hope some from the trauma films or the mug busters didn't all ready made this movie to annoy Hollywood 😂 .
Never read “wanted” but now I love it. Even the over the top stuff was to emphasize the over the top hedonistic life. Very Alaster Crowley like. Thanks again for another awesome upload. Keep at it
While I prefer the premise of the Wanted comic and the designs of some of the villains, I prefer the plot and the film way more. I think the comic wasted its potential in my opnion. I do think the film Wanted has a solid story and an enjoyable watch.
I want to mention how spot on “The Killers” response was to an ambush. Being a Marine for 8 years and a combat vet kinda makes this my area of specialty. So when pro finds himself in an ambush situation they have been conditioned to not react by hitting the ground or hiding, since that is the kill zone. Instead we are taught to quickly “take the fight to them” or simply walk and shoot to the enemy. So while jumping out a high rise is not good physics it was awesome to see a writer who knew how a pro reacts to something. Sorry if I came off as preachy, but it just is very refreshing.
Thanks for coming forward, to many movies or comics are not very realistic(in my opinion) but there is no one with experience coming forward to correct or give context.
I am a massive Mark Millar fan. All of his Millarworld titles are awesome! I also love his major Marvel titles. I just picked up the Wanted movie for $5. I haven't watched it yet and I'm now apprehensive lol. I hope Netflix doesn't f*** up their Millarworld adaptations.
I loved the comic completely.... read it about 9 years ago in my early Thirties still reminisce over growing in the 80's / 90's. To me this comic book will always be special
I’ve seen Shocker from Marvel The Vulture, Marvel Mr. Freeze, DC Ghost Rider, Marvel Magneto, Marvel There are more but it’s crazy how many established supervillains make cameos here!
I’m still not 100%, but the top Google result said to pronounce it “MIL-LER” so that’s what I’ve been going with. www.ircbpodcast.com/comic-book-industry-name-pronunciation-guide/
34:16 => That shot of Wesley falling with his back to the looming ground and him shooting towards the sky at superheroes flying towards him. This to me is one of the GREATEST moment in sequential superhero art. You can feel the air as he is dropping and bullets zooming up into the sky hitting heroes left and right. That shot alone would make a movie whether it be superheroes or a spy thriller. But being that it is superhero makes all that damn more special.
I really like the movie, partially because this is one of those comics that cannot be translated faithfully into a movie (and I really like the bullet curving). I think it'd work as a show though
Was going to read this book again and thought I would wait for your narration. Glad I did as it picked up on a few things I missed when I first read it all those years ago. Another book I reread recently was Supreme Power. That is a really well written book that covers a lot of topical issues and makes you think. Worth checking out and seeing if it deserves to be DannyMaltified.
Protagonist and hero are Not synonymous they are roles in a story the protagonist does not have to be the hero and the hero does not have to be the protagonist the protagonist is just the character through who we view the story
You know... It would be less stupid if in the movie the loom WAS magical. But it's not. It's just a loom. They're just insane holistic cultists that believe that just because they developed a cypher to translate flaws in the loom into numbers and then letters, that means if they can decode it and it's a name, whoever they can find that has that name needs to die. This makes even less sense because there are more than one person with any given name.
Don't know if anyone noticed this, but The Killer is supposed to be a messed up version of Spider-Man, with his uncanny marksmanship, wall clinging ability, and powerful jumping, it's pretty clear.
@MegaAmir46 Look at The Killer's shoes when he's wall running, and the uncanny marksmanship I equate to Spider-Man as well because Spidey is known to be a perfect marksman. Ever read the Punisher version of Spider-Man?
This is the best comic book series I mean it has the best premise villains who wiped out all the heroes and now run the world through the shadows that’s just impressive
MANNNNN this was the 1st comic I ever read cause I kinda liked the movie then found out about the book and saw how much better it was. It got me into indie comics and all the non mainstream stuff aaaaaand 1st black guy😂
Chema Yañez which is good for us, pretty sure most channels that do this have contracts/deals with comic publishers and homeboy already got screwed on Locke and key
Hmm... wonder why they didn't want to go the route of the comic books for the movies. I liked everything about the movie except for the magical loom bit and the fox's death.
I like how Millar used the "Old Man Logan" Comic arc as a repackaged "Wanted" arc...lol...I agree with Danny 100% Millar is a total Edgelord...I give "Wanted" a 6 out of 10...I like the world and the over-the-top action..but the water downed swearing and the obvious attempts to be edgy took its toll on me...Excellent Review Danny, love ur videos
Man , what’s that one comic where aliens come and destroy earth and the last man ever ( a astronaut ) is taken to some like Alien auction and is killed before some AI robot comes along and kills a bunch of aliens , the AI robot is the last of its kind seeking revenge I just can’t remember
Great video, as always. But allow me to humbly offer a little extra context from an older comics nerd. Millar using character "homages" is kind of a thing for him. He started his run on The Authority by introducing a villain team that were direct reflections of The Avengers. Here in Wanted, half the fun is spotting the clearly intentional Marvel/DC supervillain analogues. You mentioned some of them, but also consider The Killer=Deathstroke/Bullseye; Sucker=Venom/Parasite; Professor Solomon Seltzer=Lex Luthor/Dr. Sivana; Mr. Rictus=The Joker; Adam One=Vandal Savage; The Future=The Red Skull (with maybe a little Kang the Conqueror); The Emperor=The Mandarin; Brain-Box=Brainiac... and the list goes on with visual gags like Mr. Freeze and Ghost Rider. You can almost hear the slightly stoner conversation that inspired it, "yeah, but, like, what if the bad guys won? What if they wiped the supes out?" "Nah, Marvel and DC'd never do that." "Well, THEY wouldn't." It's a trope Millar's returned to since. in Jupiter's Legacy/Circle, the generations almost line up to DC and the younger kids to Marvel, but that's a little more tenuous. Then there's Nemesis, which is pretty much "what if Batman were, like, a BAD guy?" And you thought Wesley got up to some heinous s***....
It would be interesting to see a faithful TV series made out of this. The first season could follow the original comic book series faithfully, the second season could deal with an interesting story concerning superheroes somehow regaining knowledge of their past lives, as well as normal humans that have been wronged by the Fraternity seeking vengeance against it's members and members of the Fraternity, including Fox and Wesley Gibson having to face the consequences of their evil crimes.
Hey thanks for this, I read comics/manga but most recently have been reading Overlord Light Novel and there are some very dark things going on there so this book isn’t that bad lol, though comparing villains like these to a fantasy demons, undead and other rpg class types is different since these are villains it’s very similar yet doesn’t go that far yet, (Demiurge) is a demon and most of his projects are far worse than what happens in this book. Though I want to thank you because I like all these books your covering as they don’t get much outlets that discuss all these controversial situations, and not going to lie I was dying of laughter at the end lol!
Loving the video so far, I haven't finished yet, but I'm willing to bet the movie started out as a different story entirely. All the good stuff from the film has nothing to do with the comic. So I'm pretty sure the studio just went, "maybe just slap this recognizable property over that pretty cool action movie script and change some character names".
@@hanniffydinn6019 having now finished the video, I do partially agree. Many scenes are recreated almost exactly. But I don't think I would even want a straight face adaptation of this though. Darkness in tone isn't really the problem. These "everything sucks, so our hero is a murder grapist" style stories don't adapt well. I still think the "magic loom, assassins creed, actually the good guys for real" aspect of the film was a basic elevator pitch in the glimmer of a screenwriters eyes before being combined with a watered down version of the Wanted comic book run. No super heroes, no inter-dimensional shenanigans, the aforementioned magic loom. The basic plot isn't adapted really. If you view the film as just an action movie set in a universe kinda like our own. I think it's pretty good. but an awful adaptation for sure.
@@PeterCleff ultimately no film adaptation has ever followed the source material exactly. More interesting question why is that? Ego is a big factor, people think they are better writers than the author, and their egos want to rewrite the material and make it their own. This film may be a tamed down more palatable hero’s journey version….but it’s most definitely not in the spirit of the original story! But again, I’ve never seen an adaptation that’s followed the original source material. I think in this case was way too edgy for it’s time to turn into a film. I suppose that’s why comics is a better medium you can be dark & edgy as you want, as you have minimal investment to pay back. It’s just down to money in the end. That’s why I feel anime is a better medium, you can have crazy out there stories visually moving, without much financial investment to pay back! 🤯🤯🤯
The plot where the villains were gathered to work together to defeat the heroes. Reminds of old man Logan where the villains did the same thing by killing their hero enemies.
Usually with Garth Ennis he is gratuitous with a point and message, that message being ‘Don’t have idols, it’ll only bite you in the ass’ Mark Millar is just using the medium of comics to give the finger to comics, even arguably going farther then Ennis GLEEFULLY where as Ennis uses truly terrible things to make a point. That’s how I take it at least.
I’m a person who only saw the movie and as soon as you said “you have a world where the superhero’s are wiped out by the supervillains” I said HUUUUUH?!
Yeah
Wait that kind of sounds familiar
I agree!!! I had NOOOOO idea but I'm not surprised!
I got confused so fast 😭😵💫
Same!!
Hearing that Wesley's dad didnt want to deal with crimes involving children makes him a Villain with standards. The best kind of Villain in my opinion.
Wesley's father not involving himself crimes against children doesn't make him morally virtuous, he just didn't care and let it the crimes happen anyway without him. He still r a p e d and m u r d e r e d without remorse, as well as orchestrated events to unleash possibly the most evil supervillian in his world's history. Thankfully, everything that Wesley and the Fraternity managed to get away with would eventually come back to bite them all in Big Game.
Does it mean that much? That's basest of basic morals there.
Bro he is literally a r**e**st
i always knew America was secretly ran by Slim Shady
The irony of Wesley talking about the lives of his readers, when the only reason he is able to do what he does is due to superpowers and money. Idk if this was the intent or not, but it makes Wesley even more insufferable.
So... most of those super villains could just be taken out with bullets? How exactly did they come to wipe out the heroes and rule the world again?
To be honest I would prefer if this comic have more than six issues so we can see Wesley set of skills fighting against villains instead of just sniping them from distance
i think he had a weird magic "kills people" power, that operates through whatever weapon he chooses. but really it's mostly millar hating superheroes and wanting to shoot them and refusing to accept or imagine why that might not work.
actually a lot of villains could be taken out by 'mundane means', there is just this stupid rule of leftist comics writers that 'heroes can't kill villains'
Heroes don't kill usually. Who do you think wins between a battle of real bullets and rubber ones?
@@majesticslug3399 the guy with bulletproof skin.
The movie did actually explain why those assassins put so much trust in that 'loom of faith'. Fox (Angelina Jolie) told Wesley (James McAvoy) that she once refused to kill a target, but at a later point in time that target killed a lot of people (which would have been prevented if the target was killed). (It's also possible that Sloan (Morgan Freeman) said that, I don't remember all the details.)
Idk why but I always thought Wesley was played by the guy from scrubs... I know I know, I'm an idiot
Except the targets were sometimes innocent so really thats contrived in itself
I Actually just got done watching the movie again so it’s still pretty fresh. Basically Wesley is on top of a train with fox for his first kill and is like why am I killing this dude? Idk if he’s bad or evil o know nothing about him. And then fox says that before she joined the frat there was a federal judge, a good man with a family. This bad guy wanted to get a different judge that could be bought out so he sent a man. That man likes to kill people by tying their loved ones up and making them watch as he burns the target alive. I found out after I joined that man’s name came up, and someone from the frat decided to ignore it and a little girl lost her father. We kill one to potentially save thousands.
So basically when she was a kid someone was supposed to kill the hitman that torched her dad and they didn’t. So now she takes the names from the loom as gospel.
The movie is making a lot more sense about fate and NOT stupid-looking villains that are even more ridiculous that the ones in the Batman lore. Even the impossible bullet turning like a motorcycle seem to fit well with the movie's general "noir: atmosphere.
How does Mark Millar keep from cutting himself whilst riding the edge that hard?
I see what you did there 😂
Honestly, the notion that every villain eventually dies more or less at the end of this series is the most satisfying for me.
It’s neat how the American Fraternity is just Superman’s rogues gallery and Australia is just Batman’s
Meanwhile in a parallel universe the optimistic Mark Millar asks what might happen if the superheroes succeeded at getting rid of supervillains.
That's actually not a bad idea for a Elseworld or what if story.
I imagine it might ends up like Injustice.
@@bimapringgo
Then the superheroes didn't succeed in getting rid of the villains.
Instead, that'll just be a case of the greatest superheroes somehow, through a large leap in Logic or shitty writing, became villains themselves.
Then again, with how unoriginal writers are these days, I'd say that such a stupid plotline is more likely to portrayed as " a world where supervillains don't exist ".
@@livelife4928 I think it wouldn't make sense if "supervillains didn't exist" because there wouldn't be anyone to stop, so there wouldn't be anyone doing anything "heroic" so there wouldn't be any heroes either
@@raditzhoneyham
Natural disasters, terrible accidents, war, mysterious diseases, etc. Super Heroes don't exist to just punch bad guys, those things are still things for superheroes to stop or fight against
He’s the protagonist, not the hero, a lot of people have trouble making that distinction
I'll never forget picking up the graphic novel and then learning to hate this movie. It was like the movie represented the gaslighting the supervillains did in the comic to make everyone forget that the villains took over.
Lol, that is a great way to put it. Of course it's also a studio too embarrassed by the concept of Comic Book Super Villians ruling a secret sociaty (the movie came out before the MCU was in full swing mind you) so they felt the need to "elevate it" with boring ass mundinity. Seriously, how would they be embarrassed by a secret sociaty of comic book supervillians and then turn around and present a magical weave as the reason these assasins kill people?
Same, I picked up the tradeback. And it was amazing, Evil Avengers before that movie trend was even a thing. Let alone an aversion. It was amazing. Even if Eminem should have been cast as Wesley. And what we get? "Bullets curve". Wesly's power was being the best assassin alive, and he was honestly kinda lame in the power department in Wanted.
I actually liked the movie better. I really didn't like any characters in this entire comic series. They should do a sequel of a surviving hero 'going rogue' from the values of heroes and instead goes "Punisher" with the goal of killing the entire super villian population in brutally fun brilliant sneaky fashion with Wesley being the final mark of The Five. It could be called "Rogue", the sequel to "Wanted".
*Why are we not funding this?!*
Nah the movie was trash. The source material is way better than the movie
FUCK I LOVE THAT
This happened in Big Game, which acts as Endgame for Millarworld and was released last year. All the characters that Millar introduced, Kingsman, Kick Ass, Hit Girl, Huck, Prodigy and so on, unite to take down the Fraternity and all of them are killed, except for Nemesis, who miraculously survived. How it happens sucks though, but at least Wesley and the other assholes are killed
Millar already did a comic of the new generation heroes, that started to appear after Kick-Ass debut, uniting to defeat the Fraternity
Man talk about edgy
Almost cut myself from this
The movie was edgy too
But man the edge level is insane.
totally agree on Millar trying to be in edgelord. This comic book would be better if he toned it down a bit with the sex and mass murder.
It's hard for me to get into a comic where the protagonist is so detestable. I wasn't rooting for Wesley, I honestly wouldn't have been mad if he died. I did like the book because there were some interesting characters though.
Also, Wesley turned into "Mary Sue" character. In the course of a couple of months he became such a great assassin that he was able to kill dozens of much more experienced, better trained assassins?
The worst offence is not casting Morgan Freeman as Mr. Rictus. Mainly because it robbed us of Freeman saying "I don't fuck goats, Mr. Wesley. I make love with them."
Rictus is mentioned in the movie, but they say he was killed off. No morgan Freeman is more like the professor, but it is made to be an antagonist
_A hint at some underlined racism_
*sweats profusely*
Yeah but then he kills a nazi so magically this makes it good and he can say the N word till he get try .
But scene he was in a secret villen cult who cover everything for him up
And they technically did allowed him to say the N word anyway
Yeah is the hero a bit of a merry sue or is it me .
ᏞᎾᏒᎠs Ꮎf ᏟhᎪᎾs this comment didn’t make a great deal of sense
@@ORaddlyispissedoff how .
Let me remind you that the hero was in a secret villen organisation who let him do what he wants .
And then he kills a Nazi
So some how it makes it okay
Agein .
Dude this is a bit of merry sue story telling lock it up
But the comic it self feels a bit like a parody
It's easy to kill top vilens and hero's if they are talk dawn to be idiot's whit super powers
The boys did it to
It's easy to win the Battelle if you enames are to stupid to figure out how to use their powers .
So they can kill civians at one point but this one guy who has no powers is so hard to kill some how
I hope you getting what I am trying to say I try to give a bit of fair criticism .
I was expecting the future Nazi guy at least to see in the future to give a bit of challenges or the poison ivy to get defend by her plant's automatically
Now this will make an epic combo 👌 .
But no get Snape .
And the hero or villen or anti hero it's still a. Bit rasist anyway .
A bit mhe .
*underlying
I like the concept so much but the over edgy approach is just to much
Mark Miller. The first edge lord.
@@iamthewizardwhoknocks2845 Not as much as Garth Ennis though and Ennis hates the Superhero genre despite writing some superhero comics.
@derekpayneszubliminals7723 Yeah, he did write the boys after all. Though I believe the show did the concept better. I wonder a show for this can be better
the movie and the book are almost two different entities. If the movie used a different name, it would be straight up a original creation. Its a damn good action film, but as an adaption ,Dragon ball evolution was more fateful to the source materal, and saying that made me throw up a little in my mouth.
Dragon ball evolution is absolutely disgusting
I was watching this while imaging a well done Wanted film casting Eminem and Halle Berry and a few others that fit the other roles. Completely accurate to the comic while being written way better than the comic at the same time
@@scousers
You get your head checked both Characters are designed after those 2 hence why he mentioned it.
Is comprehension that hard ?
@@scouserswes is literally eminem lol
Best comic book channel on RUclips. Well done. I always get excited when you pop up in my feed 😂
My boy. The Kontent King. Every video you put out is great. You cover the heavy adult comics. Shit is great. I always tell my friends about everything you drop.
Did you get this video a day before everyone else?
I remember reading this in high school. Mark Millar was off his knocker. It’s a cool concept but it’s made as a an edge memory story with no compelling story.
When you mentioned the Mr freeze and ghost Rider cameo Easter eggs, you missed Deadshot right under them.
51:56 Vulture
Cheetah and Amazo too
Looks more like Deathstroke
I like the fact that Millar does not get involve in the productions based on his work. I am a big fan of creative licensing when stories travel across different media. I have to say that both the Wanted movie and the Jupiter tv show are actually interesting and good, standing on their own. They concentrate on lore and storytelling and adapt something fun for Hollywood and interesting for tv. The best part for me is that instead of having 2 stories, I got 4. Is like expecting a 2 dollar return off a 1-dollar investment and getting 4 dollars instead, absolutely loving it. I wish someone did Star Wars the same way.
Jupiters legacy is ass idc
in my opinion, some things shouldn't be adapted one to one from the source material. just because a movie or show isn't exactly like the source material doesn't make it worse, as long as the changes service the story or fix things that are not that good or frankly stupid in the original. and in my opinion, the movie is better than the comic.
it does make it worse. if the movie only going to use 1% of the source material, might as well make the movie its own fvcking IP instead of borrowing source material's name to get people to watch it, which is dumb. The movie would stand on its own better if it never did borrow the Wanted name and went with an original IP but noped... Borrows 2 scenes from the comics and using character's names and throwing out the rest I would not consider it an adaptation.
I love how you break these stories down. I agree that the "casual" mentions of rape and extreme violence are disturbing. But I think they are meant to be disturbing. This is a story of villains, unhinged and unchecked - likely what would happen in any world with "super powered" villains. There are no heroes here - just villains in power having a major power shift. With this in mind - I think most of the story still holds up 16 years later. Still didn't appreciate the ending, but I understand where Millar was coming from with essentially holding up a mirror to the reader for "enjoying" or "participating" in this orgy of violence... Good stuff. Keep up the good work bro!
I fully agree with you, but I also think the casual mention of rape is a bit too far over that line just because in my mind that scene is almost a throw away and has no relevance except making me fucking hate the protagonist more than I think I need too
All the racist mentions too. Wesley sucks
@@user-up8jj4wj4i go cry
@@user-up8jj4wj4i mark millar has admitted before he does it because that it is the best and cheap way to portray a villain. Make them do heinous taboo shit, rpe, torture before death, and the like, overall just twisted acts beyond just stealing money and world invasion. We cant really hold him accountable, he's a practicing catholic, he has a kid or two, showing heinous stuff through say the medium of comics doesnt really mean he condones it. I wouldnt say he's mangaka creepy. Writers sometimes want their bloat, throw away scenes with no relevance, he wanted to paint that house that way maybe you wanted it a different color, you can criticize a work but you should never say "it should be this way", just say i dont like it this way because... or "it couldve been better if"
the author is always a participant as well. they might say "i'm holding this up as a mirror to show how shitty you are" but they have to do that to themselves first. read the foreword to "a clockwork orange" for an author telling you the same thing.
“Sneaking into cribs” refers to Rictus breaking into homes. He was most likely entering other Fraternity members’ houses, betraying their trust
No they meant literal cribs as in babies
Why would Wesley need to inherit any money when he is a villain and can do whatever he wants?
If most of these villains could be stopped with a bullet then how were they able to beat their version of heroes like they must've had some real goofballs. Like they didn't have a frank castle?
Yeah there is gonna be a badass who doesn't care and kills them all.
I'm convinced, based on his different comics, Mark Millar does not know how to write endings or villains. He just knows how to come up with interesting universes.
It seems like an open secret that he only writes comics so he can sell the I.P. for a movie adaptation
I enjoyed the movie, but I wish it was it's own separate IP.
Only the truly initiated know that this was a comic book before a movie
Amiradi Coolisa Facts. I got Wanted randomly from Barnes and Noble back in the day not knowing what to expect. It was definitely money well spent and put me on to Mark Millar.
I love how the boots the killer was wearing looked very much like spidermans
What no one has noticed is that Fox is twice Wesley‘s age she is a middle aged woman!
It's Halle Berry. You wouldn't notice either.
Black don't Crack.
Dude I love your channel got hooked on it when you did "The Boys" series. Right now finishing "The Last Man" saga; please keep up the content.
I would love for you to continue the Britt comics from Invincible.
that didn't age well
Oof
Wait what did I miss?
@@ErraticWarlock Danny covered all of invincible and brit comics last year but had to take them down even almost took down his YT too
@@ErraticWarlock haven't you heard?
How do you like the villain concept but dont like them doing actual villain things 💀
It's the treatment of the sick subject matter as just " a thing happened, things happen, so what?" combined with the relatability if the anti-hero main character. The attitude of the narrative is "aren't these villains sick and cool?"rather than how will they be stopped, why aren't they dead already?
Till this day I will never understand how they could screw up a movie of Wanted. It was almost as if they were too scared to delve into the superhero/villain aspect of it. So they decided to go with curving bullets around corners because that more realistic..?? 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Maybe they didn’t want to take a risk of making an edgy superhero themed movie that wasn’t even tied to marvel or dc. Don’t know if there were examples of movies like that working before kick ass that released 2 years later. I read somewhere that the curving bullet thing wasn’t in the original blueprint of the movie they put it in because Angelina Jolie said she wouldnt do the movie if they didn’t have a scene of her killing like 8 dudes and then herself with a single bullet.
Well can you give me a list of movies who are comic book inspired or adapted who Hollywood didn't screwd up .
Granted some comic's can get to over the top but .....
When you try to adapt it this will give some red flag for some people .
The Hollywood version of humpy Dumpty .
He was working in a burger joint till a sexy queen in a LaTeX show up and says .
Come with me your the chosen one .
Humpy ughhh aaa okay miss he said in a stupid way
4 min after a rocky montage from the 80s
He is killing people and learn to talk less stupid .
Scriming LONG LIVE THE QUEEN while some song from Queen is playing in the background .
The killer Queen one .
Yeah let's hope some from the trauma films or the mug busters didn't all ready made this movie to annoy Hollywood 😂 .
It was probably a finished script that they just fixed up and smacked the title Wanted on it.
Reed Tardio lol I wouldn’t even be surprised if it was true
We not going to talk about the Scott Steiner Easter egg? 😂😂 *Holla if ya hear me*
What
I thought the same thing.
Man I thought that curving the bullet stuff was so dumb when I saw that movie really glad it isn't in the comic
Same i hated the movie
And the bullet deflecting wasn't or his jumping and dodging bullets
I don't see how much of an issue it would be in a story that already is speculative which isn't 100% realistic
Never read “wanted” but now I love it. Even the over the top stuff was to emphasize the over the top hedonistic life. Very Alaster Crowley like. Thanks again for another awesome upload. Keep at it
While I prefer the premise of the Wanted comic and the designs of some of the villains, I prefer the plot and the film way more. I think the comic wasted its potential in my opnion. I do think the film Wanted has a solid story and an enjoyable watch.
I really can't get over Wesley being drawn like Slim Shady 😂
If you dyed your hair blond, now you looks like him!! 😂😂
Johnny is clearly Steve Buscemi, and I love that.
Love it, thank you for doing the whole story. This was the 1st Mark Millar I ever read and i never made the connection to other Mark Millar stories.
even though wanted wasn't anything like the comic it still was an epic story
All the superpowered villains and the top one is guy with guns
I found this comic book very intresting, thanks for covering it Danny.
Well spoken, to the point, and most importantly no side geek thoughts that go on for minutes. How are you getting so little views?
Im so glad you covered this, no matter how polarizing it is. Just goes to show youre not a genuine creator.
Only $50 Million? Guess I was wrong. I figured top tier hit men made over a million per hit.
I want to mention how spot on “The Killers” response was to an ambush. Being a Marine for 8 years and a combat vet kinda makes this my area of specialty. So when pro finds himself in an ambush situation they have been conditioned to not react by hitting the ground or hiding, since that is the kill zone. Instead we are taught to quickly “take the fight to them” or simply walk and shoot to the enemy. So while jumping out a high rise is not good physics it was awesome to see a writer who knew how a pro reacts to something. Sorry if I came off as preachy, but it just is very refreshing.
Thanks for coming forward, to many movies or comics are not very realistic(in my opinion) but there is no one with experience coming forward to correct or give context.
Yeah because it’s sooo realistic to get yourself out in the open instead of taking cover so you don’t take a 7.62 to the gut
Not sure this was based on real life combat tactics. Cool to know it lines up though. Also 🫡 thank you for your service sir
I am a massive Mark Millar fan. All of his Millarworld titles are awesome! I also love his major Marvel titles. I just picked up the Wanted movie for $5. I haven't watched it yet and I'm now apprehensive lol. I hope Netflix doesn't f*** up their Millarworld adaptations.
I loved the comic completely.... read it about 9 years ago in my early Thirties still reminisce over growing in the 80's / 90's. To me this comic book will always be special
Man you always choose some unique comics.
Great video!! Thank you very much. Especially the last part with your afterthought.
Mark Millar and Garth Ennis really are some of the edgiest writers
I’ve seen
Shocker from Marvel
The Vulture, Marvel
Mr. Freeze, DC
Ghost Rider, Marvel
Magneto, Marvel
There are more but it’s crazy how many established supervillains make cameos here!
also Scott Steiner, WWE(WCW) 56:57
and knock offs
Hooded Justice, Watchmen 57:27
Darkside 58:05
And the iron-man villain the Tornado
Also sun fire (X-men) at 14:20
And Baron Zemo
I always wonder if he pronounces his own name as "Miller" or "Mill'LARR"
I’m still not 100%, but the top Google result said to pronounce it “MIL-LER” so that’s what I’ve been going with.
www.ircbpodcast.com/comic-book-industry-name-pronunciation-guide/
@@dannymalt Thx. Yeah, i see YT ppl pronounce it both ways, but i have never actually heard him pronounce his own name
If you ever find how Millar himself says it, let me know.
@@dannymalt being like Mr millar Scottish I've never heard it pronounced MillAR, its always MillER
I saw him interviewed years ago where this question came up. It's pronounced "Miller"
34:16 => That shot of Wesley falling with his back to the looming ground and him shooting towards the sky at superheroes flying towards him. This to me is one of the GREATEST moment in sequential superhero art. You can feel the air as he is dropping and bullets zooming up into the sky hitting heroes left and right. That shot alone would make a movie whether it be superheroes or a spy thriller. But being that it is superhero makes all that damn more special.
oh Dannymalt you make me the happyiest man alive ive wated so long for this video
WOW i saw the movie a dozen times and when finally got the chance to read the comic i was blown away. This looks like a way better story.
Did we really see the same movie?
@@augustuzmoon3814 yeah
I really like the movie, partially because this is one of those comics that cannot be translated faithfully into a movie (and I really like the bullet curving). I think it'd work as a show though
Wait, was thus written by Mark Millar or Mallar's 13 yr old nephew?
Was going to read this book again and thought I would wait for your narration. Glad I did as it picked up on a few things I missed when I first read it all those years ago. Another book I reread recently was Supreme Power. That is a really well written book that covers a lot of topical issues and makes you think. Worth checking out and seeing if it deserves to be DannyMaltified.
2 WEEKS NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU NEED TO HAVE AT LEAST A SMALL STORY NEXT SUNDAY!!!!! THIS IS WHAT I LOOK FORWARD TO EVERY WEEK
200% better bec of the quarantine thanks Danny!
Protagonist and hero are Not synonymous they are roles in a story the protagonist does not have to be the hero and the hero does not have to be the protagonist the protagonist is just the character through who we view the story
I want to see the comic when the supervillains joined forces to defeat the superheroes.
I never read the comic but saw the movie 3-4 times. Very interesting how different they are!
the comic eclipses the movie on all aspects but tbf in 2005 the world was not ready for how superhero-ey a faithful Wanted adaptation was
You know... It would be less stupid if in the movie the loom WAS magical. But it's not. It's just a loom. They're just insane holistic cultists that believe that just because they developed a cypher to translate flaws in the loom into numbers and then letters, that means if they can decode it and it's a name, whoever they can find that has that name needs to die. This makes even less sense because there are more than one person with any given name.
The sucker is obviously inspired from a DC supervillain named parasite
Don't know if anyone noticed this, but The Killer is supposed to be a messed up version of Spider-Man, with his uncanny marksmanship, wall clinging ability, and powerful jumping, it's pretty clear.
Really think so?
@MegaAmir46 Look at The Killer's shoes when he's wall running, and the uncanny marksmanship I equate to Spider-Man as well because Spidey is known to be a perfect marksman. Ever read the Punisher version of Spider-Man?
You deserve more subscribers
This is the best comic book series I mean it has the best premise villains who wiped out all the heroes and now run the world through the shadows that’s just impressive
MANNNNN this was the 1st comic I ever read cause I kinda liked the movie then found out about the book and saw how much better it was. It got me into indie comics and all the non mainstream stuff aaaaaand
1st black guy😂
Man, you dont get the recognition you deserve!!!
Chema Yañez which is good for us, pretty sure most channels that do this have contracts/deals with comic publishers and homeboy already got screwed on Locke and key
@@TrueGamer22887 what happened with that?
Hmm... wonder why they didn't want to go the route of the comic books for the movies. I liked everything about the movie except for the magical loom bit and the fox's death.
I like how Millar used the "Old Man Logan" Comic arc as a repackaged "Wanted" arc...lol...I agree with Danny 100% Millar is a total Edgelord...I give "Wanted" a 6 out of 10...I like the world and the over-the-top action..but the water downed swearing and the obvious attempts to be edgy took its toll on me...Excellent Review Danny, love ur videos
I kinda liked the loom part in the movie it just felt kinda unique
Is that big poppa pump scott Steiner with sunglasses at 39:28
Man , what’s that one comic where aliens come and destroy earth and the last man ever ( a astronaut ) is taken to some like Alien auction and is killed before some AI robot comes along and kills a bunch of aliens , the AI robot is the last of its kind seeking revenge I just can’t remember
I take back that this isn't as worse as The Ultimates
Great video, as always. But allow me to humbly offer a little extra context from an older comics nerd. Millar using character "homages" is kind of a thing for him. He started his run on The Authority by introducing a villain team that were direct reflections of The Avengers. Here in Wanted, half the fun is spotting the clearly intentional Marvel/DC supervillain analogues. You mentioned some of them, but also consider The Killer=Deathstroke/Bullseye; Sucker=Venom/Parasite; Professor Solomon Seltzer=Lex Luthor/Dr. Sivana; Mr. Rictus=The Joker; Adam One=Vandal Savage; The Future=The Red Skull (with maybe a little Kang the Conqueror); The Emperor=The Mandarin; Brain-Box=Brainiac... and the list goes on with visual gags like Mr. Freeze and Ghost Rider. You can almost hear the slightly stoner conversation that inspired it, "yeah, but, like, what if the bad guys won? What if they wiped the supes out?" "Nah, Marvel and DC'd never do that." "Well, THEY wouldn't."
It's a trope Millar's returned to since. in Jupiter's Legacy/Circle, the generations almost line up to DC and the younger kids to Marvel, but that's a little more tenuous. Then there's Nemesis, which is pretty much "what if Batman were, like, a BAD guy?" And you thought Wesley got up to some heinous s***....
They can bring this back as a series like the boys, and do it properly. Maybe tone it down a little, but it's a great concept.
Honestly i hated the comic books. They’re edgy for no reason and not like just weird edgy, like edgy to the point of self parody
It would be interesting to see a faithful TV series made out of this. The first season could follow the original comic book series faithfully, the second season could deal with an interesting story concerning superheroes somehow regaining knowledge of their past lives, as well as normal humans that have been wronged by the Fraternity seeking vengeance against it's members and members of the Fraternity, including Fox and Wesley Gibson having to face the consequences of their evil crimes.
That could be pretty cool
Wanted had some serious potential..
It’d be cool to see a story similar to this that isn’t such a parody..
Hey thanks for this, I read comics/manga but most recently have been reading Overlord Light Novel and there are some very dark things going on there so this book isn’t that bad lol, though comparing villains like these to a fantasy demons, undead and other rpg class types is different since these are villains it’s very similar yet doesn’t go that far yet, (Demiurge) is a demon and most of his projects are far worse than what happens in this book. Though I want to thank you because I like all these books your covering as they don’t get much outlets that discuss all these controversial situations, and not going to lie I was dying of laughter at the end lol!
@Dannymalt can you do Preacher please? Greeting from Merida, Yucatan Mexico!
Rodrigo Samperio I announced that as my next series! First Preacher video will come out on July 26.
@@dannymalt Listen Danny, you are A M A Z I N G, thank you for taking the time to answer this. Respect bro.
The loom isn't magical. It's supposed to be simmilar to how people in the past predicted the future. I think wanted is abot cultmentality and such
Never read the comic, so I totally live the movie, but im open to hear what its actually about
Loving the video so far, I haven't finished yet, but I'm willing to bet the movie started out as a different story entirely. All the good stuff from the film has nothing to do with the comic. So I'm pretty sure the studio just went, "maybe just slap this recognizable property over that pretty cool action movie script and change some character names".
Not true, many scenes in the film are exactly the same in the comic! They couldn’t take how dark it was, so took all that out! 🤯🤯🤯
@@hanniffydinn6019 having now finished the video, I do partially agree. Many scenes are recreated almost exactly. But I don't think I would even want a straight face adaptation of this though. Darkness in tone isn't really the problem. These "everything sucks, so our hero is a murder grapist" style stories don't adapt well. I still think the "magic loom, assassins creed, actually the good guys for real" aspect of the film was a basic elevator pitch in the glimmer of a screenwriters eyes before being combined with a watered down version of the Wanted comic book run. No super heroes, no inter-dimensional shenanigans, the aforementioned magic loom. The basic plot isn't adapted really. If you view the film as just an action movie set in a universe kinda like our own. I think it's pretty good. but an awful adaptation for sure.
@@PeterCleff ultimately no film adaptation has ever followed the source material exactly. More interesting question why is that? Ego is a big factor, people think they are better writers than the author, and their egos want to rewrite the material and make it their own. This film may be a tamed down more palatable hero’s journey version….but it’s most definitely not in the spirit of the original story! But again, I’ve never seen an adaptation that’s followed the original source material. I think in this case was way too edgy for it’s time to turn into a film. I suppose that’s why comics is a better medium you can be dark & edgy as you want, as you have minimal investment to pay back. It’s just down to money in the end. That’s why I feel anime is a better medium, you can have crazy out there stories visually moving, without much financial investment to pay back! 🤯🤯🤯
The plot where the villains were gathered to work together to defeat the heroes. Reminds of old man Logan where the villains did the same thing by killing their hero enemies.
Also written by Mark Millar.
@@joeparrigen4982 yea that what makes his story fascinated.
this was a comic book? cool, will look it up
Pardon me. But isn't Garth Ennis just as guilty for all those critiques. Not judging, just saying that Millar and Ennis are no different
Usually with Garth Ennis he is gratuitous with a point and message, that message being ‘Don’t have idols, it’ll only bite you in the ass’ Mark Millar is just using the medium of comics to give the finger to comics, even arguably going farther then Ennis GLEEFULLY where as Ennis uses truly terrible things to make a point. That’s how I take it at least.
Jared Garcia though both have been mean spirited in their writing, always felt millar is almost always mean spirited with no deeper meaning
Ennis is just better
@@grimmjowwsbane775 well after seeing his work in Preacher, The Boys, and Punisher, I really can't disagree
@@TrueGamer22887 i see