I very much think we should not imagine Nietzsche desperately performing CPR on the fresh corpse of God. Rather he would be examining the wounds, he would take the opportunity to find out what weakness God possessed that must be avoided in whatever eventually emerges to take God's place. Going back to before it happened would not spare us the inevitable end. At best we buy more time but the revived god would still have the weakness that allowed us to kill him, and we would not be so changed as to not attempt another deicide.
i feel the same when whenever JP talks about jung. it's like he has this incessant need to idealize every idea he thinks is profound to him, rather than just taking the author at face value and adhering to a strict analytic guideline (such as jung did with his empiricism). in short i'd say JP has a habit of putting a lot of unspoken words in dead people's mouths.
@@knollfields it's a video idea that's been on the back of my mind for awhile haha. but if you made one first that would make me even happier. i was only going to make one because i'm sick of people learning about great thinkers like jung and nietzche through the lens of a bombastic midwits like JP. and this is a great start i hope your channel blows up man :)
I thought the same when listening to some of his interviews, he continuously paints Nietzsche as a guy who apparently mourned the death of god and saw it as a disaster and somehow he (Peterson) came to the conclusion that Nietzsche wanted everything to go back. You don't even have to be well read on Nietzsche to realize that this is not the case and his advocacy of something outside of religion was always present throughout his texts, it's not a secret or an interpretation that is hard to understand. Great video.
"My patient friends, this book desires for itself only perfect readers and philologists: Learn to read me well!" Friedrich Nietzsche, Daybreak: Thoughts on the Prejudices of Morality He was well aware that he will be misinterpreted.
What else can I say that others already did not mention. Thank you for this illustration of JP thinking. As much as I love the guy he spiraled in the last 30 years to the "right" view "too much". There is an organizing light of abstraction and there are headlights of religion bus.... riding to the Eclipse ;)
He doesn't missunderstand him, he is far too educated for that. He simply chooses to cherry pick and distort the segments that best fit with his ideology.
It's easy to see it that way, but in a sense you are not entirely correct. Although he stands for something, he does encourage to be critical to all ideology. Therefore his message is more complex than what you have concluded.
How did I get recommended a 126 subscriber video with 23 views from 6 hours ago? Well, I guess I've been subscribing and following small channels for a while.
I mean, it is presented as such isn't, quause I was thinking about it not long ago, how Mr. Peterson stumble in his word. And his eyes lately as well same for his daughter, I can see they looking at themselves in the third person. And not only that, there's territory/soil, for a lot of good junji's folklore. Anyway, what a great video. Thank you, have a good day.
"God is dead" quite is also Nietzsches own annouchment for his own transgression , aka killing " the reason" for the sake of good, meaning his own sacrifice. For Nietzsche god is time,.and vision ja concentration..and action, seeing god in work.
.....Which separate philosophy has nothing to do with Nietzsche. You can read Nietzsche through any lens and cherrypick aphorisms that match your own moral system. That's fine, but it's not actually reading, thinking about, or talking about Nietzschean philosophy. It's just your own. So it is dishonest to claim that it actually is the author because the original phrase originated with him, when in reality it has very little to do with him. The Nazis did the same with their propaganda. Should we therefore associate Nietzsche with Nazism? I don't think we should.
@@cam609lee I think its partly gatekeeping. And is also wanting Peterson to be wrong. What if Peterson understands perfectly and chooses to use it how he wants to in Will to Power? It would be perfectly Nietzschean.
@@cam609leeThere are misreadings of Nietzsche that are simply wrong. Factually incorrect and not within the scope. I don't think this is. But it might be. Would have to think about it for a lot longer. But I don't think its crystal clear at all.
Yay! Perhaps he - Neet Chöd (Tibetan plateau) - simply pointed at the Phoenician cosmogony (CS 1.6, 'Phoenix Connexion'), and its central Heart (Shor/Lorkhan), meaning 'God is Death'. Note: not 'dead'. But the original meaning got lost in translation, as the subsequent cultures overturned certain words and concepts to fit their own theo-political purposes. And he being a linguist knew these subtle nuisances. 'Start with the Greeks' was never the right path. And I believe he suggested this cryptically. For those who are able to hear.
I mean, you breaking down Peterson by his own word, dismantling, like "What is Jordan Peterson" and breaking even through the lies that Peterson don't that he is frailing, would be even cooler, might do It, can picture a really fun and through point by point, with a lightness of how silly, entertaining and fun it all is if you can just relax an see how things really are. Mostly only achievable for me after some good breaking down of my mind, body, therefore soul. Isn't the same for y'all?
Epic video. Loved the images, videos and sound queues. And yes Peterson is pseudo intellectual grifter that uses philosophy and psychology to push his low grade christian narrative.
@@SatanicBoomBoomHead Thank you!! I’m really glad you liked all the editing, more videos just like this coming soon so stay tuned :) And yes very true, jbp has become quite a charlatan. Christian narrative just out of utilitarianism.
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I very much think we should not imagine Nietzsche desperately performing CPR on the fresh corpse of God.
Rather he would be examining the wounds, he would take the opportunity to find out what weakness God possessed that must be avoided in whatever eventually emerges to take God's place.
Going back to before it happened would not spare us the inevitable end. At best we buy more time but the revived god would still have the weakness that allowed us to kill him, and we would not be so changed as to not attempt another deicide.
I really enjoyed this. I motivate you to please keep doing this content especially about Nietzsche.
Thank you, I will!
i feel the same when whenever JP talks about jung. it's like he has this incessant need to idealize every idea he thinks is profound to him, rather than just taking the author at face value and adhering to a strict analytic guideline (such as jung did with his empiricism). in short i'd say JP has a habit of putting a lot of unspoken words in dead people's mouths.
@@env0x Most certain, and that is a very good point. Maybe someday I will have to make a Jordan Peterson is wrong about Jung video.
@@knollfields it's a video idea that's been on the back of my mind for awhile haha. but if you made one first that would make me even happier. i was only going to make one because i'm sick of people learning about great thinkers like jung and nietzche through the lens of a bombastic midwits like JP. and this is a great start i hope your channel blows up man :)
@@env0x Thanks man. I appreciate the support! In case you beat me to making it, post the link here! I'm hoping too :)
@@knollfields I'm a Jungian psychotherapist and I can assure you... He doesn't truly understand Jung.
I thought the same when listening to some of his interviews, he continuously paints Nietzsche as a guy who apparently mourned the death of god and saw it as a disaster and somehow he (Peterson) came to the conclusion that Nietzsche wanted everything to go back. You don't even have to be well read on Nietzsche to realize that this is not the case and his advocacy of something outside of religion was always present throughout his texts, it's not a secret or an interpretation that is hard to understand. Great video.
"My patient friends, this book desires for itself only perfect readers and philologists: Learn to read me well!"
Friedrich Nietzsche, Daybreak: Thoughts on the Prejudices of Morality
He was well aware that he will be misinterpreted.
What else can I say that others already did not mention. Thank you for this illustration of JP thinking. As much as I love the guy he spiraled in the last 30 years to the "right" view "too much". There is an organizing light of abstraction and there are headlights of religion bus.... riding to the Eclipse ;)
He doesn't missunderstand him, he is far too educated for that. He simply chooses to cherry pick and distort the segments that best fit with his ideology.
Yep. His job is to twist narrative.
It's easy to see it that way, but in a sense you are not entirely correct. Although he stands for something, he does encourage to be critical to all ideology. Therefore his message is more complex than what you have concluded.
@@НиколайЛамбертHis job is not to twist, but to interpret. However, that doesn't mean you have to like his conclusions.
How did I get recommended a 126 subscriber video with 23 views from 6 hours ago?
Well, I guess I've been subscribing and following small channels for a while.
Same thing happened to me
I mean, it is presented as such isn't, quause I was thinking about it not long ago, how Mr. Peterson stumble in his word. And his eyes lately as well same for his daughter, I can see they looking at themselves in the third person. And not only that, there's territory/soil, for a lot of good junji's folklore. Anyway, what a great video. Thank you, have a good day.
"God is dead" quite is also Nietzsches own annouchment for his own transgression , aka killing " the reason" for the sake of good, meaning his own sacrifice. For Nietzsche god is time,.and vision ja concentration..and action, seeing god in work.
Peterson isn't exactly wrong, he instrumentalises Nietzsche towards his own separate agenda/philosophy.
.....Which separate philosophy has nothing to do with Nietzsche. You can read Nietzsche through any lens and cherrypick aphorisms that match your own moral system. That's fine, but it's not actually reading, thinking about, or talking about Nietzschean philosophy. It's just your own. So it is dishonest to claim that it actually is the author because the original phrase originated with him, when in reality it has very little to do with him. The Nazis did the same with their propaganda. Should we therefore associate Nietzsche with Nazism? I don't think we should.
@@cam609lee I think its partly gatekeeping. And is also wanting Peterson to be wrong. What if Peterson understands perfectly and chooses to use it how he wants to in Will to Power? It would be perfectly Nietzschean.
@@cam609leeThere are misreadings of Nietzsche that are simply wrong. Factually incorrect and not within the scope. I don't think this is. But it might be. Would have to think about it for a lot longer. But I don't think its crystal clear at all.
Accurate
Yay! Perhaps he - Neet Chöd (Tibetan plateau) - simply pointed at the Phoenician cosmogony (CS 1.6, 'Phoenix Connexion'), and its central Heart (Shor/Lorkhan), meaning 'God is Death'. Note: not 'dead'. But the original meaning got lost in translation, as the subsequent cultures overturned certain words and concepts to fit their own theo-political purposes. And he being a linguist knew these subtle nuisances.
'Start with the Greeks' was never the right path. And I believe he suggested this cryptically. For those who are able to hear.
I think your thumb would work better without the text. It's a good vibe that just gets cheapened by the "wrong"
Thanks for the feedback, might change it without the text
@@knollfields sure thing, just one opinion. I've done the same thing myself plenty of times
I mean, you breaking down Peterson by his own word, dismantling, like "What is Jordan Peterson" and breaking even through the lies that Peterson don't that he is frailing, would be even cooler, might do It, can picture a really fun and through point by point, with a lightness of how silly, entertaining and fun it all is if you can just relax an see how things really are. Mostly only achievable for me after some good breaking down of my mind, body, therefore soul. Isn't the same for y'all?
Epic video. Loved the images, videos and sound queues. And yes Peterson is pseudo intellectual grifter that uses philosophy and psychology to push his low grade christian narrative.
@@SatanicBoomBoomHead Thank you!! I’m really glad you liked all the editing, more videos just like this coming soon so stay tuned :) And yes very true, jbp has become quite a charlatan. Christian narrative just out of utilitarianism.