Over 15 years ago: What's the retail on one of those? More than you can afford pal...Ferrari. Present day: What's the retail on one of those? More than you can afford pal... Supra.
Anyone willing to pay $40K or more for supra is a dumbass. There are Supras listed for over $100k.. so someone buys it spends let's say 60 grand on a poopra.. usually people hungry for compliments would spend that on supra, but once they own one they will realize that nowadays nobody cares about Supras..
Yeah because he is a smart guy and appreciates a good car. Supra prices are going up like crazy and Ferrari's do the opposite . Toyota lead the industry and the mk4 is the best car they have ever built, Do the math.
well they aren't investments. Basically what he means is that while no investment is guaranteed, it takes a kind of minimum level of return percentage likelyhood to be an investment, if you don't think that then the lotto is "an investment". He's basically saying, don't buy cars assuming they'll go up in value, it's not a reliable enough investment to qualify as an investment. Rob can afford to "risk" it because at the end of the day, if a car tanks in value, he'll be fine. He doesn't go out of his way to destroy his chances of making money off a car, but he doesn't consider buying cars a means of investing, he buys cars to own and drive them.
Don Ziolkowski in that case then you shouldn't buy stocks assuming they will only go up in value. It really just depends on the car you buy just like it does with stocks. Not every car will go up in price just like not every stock will go up in price
Rob you have WAY too many cars so i'd like to make a few suggestions 1. Fire your tuner/builder 2. If you're in excess of 800hp, please get a twin disk clutch. In the supra world the v160 destroys everything in front and behind it, hence people run 1500hp thru a stock trans. Crank walk is no fun either. 3. Go thru your entire suspension with super pro poly bushings, get a 2 way lsd, trd sways, dial in your rear suspension to allow some compressions under power but not so stiff where you shock the tire transient shift. She's will track dead straight and not dance under boost. 4. Change your brake lines to SS lines, bleed dry and run dot4 brake fluid. Ill guarantee that you can stop more than once. Its known fact that the 20+ year old lines expand under pressure inhibiting braking performance. 5. Run e85 6. There are 1000whp supra's out there on stock bottom end that last, torque but more so the down stroke on the motor is what kills a 2J, this was ascertained years ago so a good tuner can keep the torque down but make power. 7. Turbo sizing is everything / tuning and your turner is everything else. 8. I have a 1300whp car, 930 on its lowest boost setting with AC and progressive traction control that I routinely take on 8 hour weekend road trips and yes I get caught in the rain 9. Try the Toyo R888R, it dead hooks 1100whp and can handle 60mph in the rain on a 19'' rim 10. This is an overly capable 20+ year old platform that can make stupid power but you need to be realistic and upgrade the parts in the body to make the platform itself more modern. There's a reason the supra is in the garage and the 488 is outside. Keep making videos but out of respect, some of the things youre saying is 10-15 year old information.
@@the8thvictim For sure, my old R32 Skyline had around 500HP at the wheels and that was a handful even in the dry. But I also built that myself in my teens, so I didn't really do it properly haha.
They made (as in used to) 320HP cars that can be modded into 4-500HP cars with relatively small money. To get into the 1000+HP club you're talking major modifications and big money-especially since everything for a Supra is going to cost a lot. You want 1000HP for relatively small money, go buy a used LS engine, strap on an eBay turbo, and hope it holds together long enough to impress somebody at the dyno lol.
Yeah. He definitely sounds like the reason he's not driving it is because gas. I imagine he drove it around for a day or two and went "oh shit I just burned $200 of gas"
Isn't there E85 available in new york? This 1000hp supra build is actually pretty old school compared to these days, throw a flex fuel sensor in and a borg warner EFR on it and all your fuel problems are solved and all your lag problems are solved. Want even less lag? 3.4L stroker kit runs $5k usd $6,500 for a clutch? Yeah, maybe in 2007. These days a good quality twin plate that'll hold that runs all of $2.5k usd.
e85 isn't as simple you need massive injectors, my supra runs on e85 I got 3 fuel pumps, and 2150s. Dumping that much fuel into the motor, you have to clean your spark plugs every time you drive. You have to change oil more often. Try building a supra and you will see :)
That's not really true, I have several friends with 2jz and 2400cc injectors, no problems with fuel delivery with 2 pumps. No problems with the oil changes or spark plugs. Runs E85. Several with high compression aswell, some even strokers!
Rob please go talk to the guys down in Florida at Realstreet Performance or Titan Motorsports, your build is very outdated. Technology has come a long way in the past 5-10 years by leaps and bounds. You should really consider upgrading your turbo to today's standards and upgrade your standalone fuel management to proefi or Aem infinity, also go e-85. You will love your car so much more after doing so.
I think it's more your crazy president that's making us mad. Deny climate change to bring back coal jobs? It's the 21st century, climate change has been confirmed, running he country as if it's still the late 1950s isn't going to help.
He doesn't deny climate change, he denies humans are causing it. Which is the problem. It's hard to deny climate change so he defects that onto the planet is doing it not us oh well.
ill clean those wheels for you... it will cost you about 700 dollars since its a 1000 hp supra. I have to use a different Soap made for 1000hp supras, a special wash mitt and chammie all made specifically for 1000hp supras. ill do the whole car for 1500 😁
its a special process... we play ambient music to relax the car, have scented candles for aromatherapy , give it a massage... Its very important when a Supra is stressed out. For 1500$, its a good deal.
Im guessing 3 stage paint correction and ceramic coating. So yes 1500 is worth it. I have a scat pack and did the same thing. She shines all the time and dont have to wax for 5 years guaranteed by warranty. Kinda like a screen protector for your phone but on your ride.
yesterday rob spaghetti said cars are not investments, but today rob spaghetti mentions that he could sell his car for alot of spaghetti sauce and then buy another for half a can.
Couple of things that you are totally miss-informing people on Mr.Spaghetti: -- You do not need C16 to make 1000hp on a supra, e85 (pump gas on most states) now a days will allow this car to make that power without breaking the bank, 600 on 93 octane with Flex fuel. -- To make 850 you don't need much, good standalone (AEM infinity) valve springs / cams and bolt on turbo. -- You can make them spool much quicker with the right turbo / manifold combo, mine spools at 3500 full boost by 4500 and holds all the way to 8k (6766 ball bearing turbo) -- Clutch technology has come a long way, I have a RPS twin disk carbon clutch on mine and is as easy to drive as a stock clutch supra, also you are totally wrong on the price as I just bought it paid $2500 for it brand new not 6k like you claim -- You are right about driving them on the rain, this is def a car that can only be driven on perfect weather -- Road racing tires on a straight line car is always a bad idea, I would def recommend ET street Rs thats what I use on mine and car hooks and goes strait.
Who needs a fashion sense when you have a bad ass car? I’ll take car parts and a good time in the garage building it up than a good fashion sense any day. No time to worry about what I’m wearing as long as I’m showered and smell good and have something on that’s all that matters
depends honestly, of coarse you don't need a lot for daily driving. But today's modern cars aren't like these old supras. You can have a 1000hp car that you want to have fun on the weekends with but daily it because it drives like stock under normal throttle conditions.
After owning a 800hp MKIV supra I can tell you its VERY easy to make the 800hp reliably on the stock bottom end. Supra held the best 0-60 stopping time until the Porsche Carrera GT came around...the brakes are amazing stock. You do need sticky tires...supras are probably the most violent car i've ever been in when the boost kicks in and that back end loves to float around. Stock suspension is definitely very bouncy...probably the best upgrade you can get out of the box imo
Tony Condor he was going to drive the Supra today... except it was raining then said if he'd sell it he'd buy a higher mile one to drive it. This isn't hard
I've never gotten the vibe that Rob actually loves or has a passion for cars. He always seems to be complaining and doesn't strike me as a fun/cool guy to be around.
Envy Sam I'm talking about just bolting a turbo and I've seen this guy with a almost stock coyote and he was running 18 psi and he was able to get high 700s
Do you guys even know what kind of numbers are you talking about lol... 700 is already too much to handle for the average guy on the road, let alone to live with that and use it. 500 is absolute max for normal usage, that will throw you around your car too, any further is dick length competition..
Filip Gereg I'm pretty sure that they talk about this from a view of a car guy which isn't the average guy that drives his 150hp vw passat to work and back.
What else do you need? The only other time that power comes remotely useful (except for stupid people to masturbate over the numbers and BUY BUY BUY) is the track. How many times per year do you go to the track? And when you do, do you REALLY need more than 400 bloody horsepower to have fun?
Very good video....only thing I would say is....have to drive it or it's not worth it. If you are in it for money go invest in property....cars are made to be driven and have fun. Don't waste you life letting it sit so you can look at it!
Rob, I really hope you never sell your Supra. You have had it for so long that it's a part of you! :) Supra is my dreamcar, getting older though but still love the car. Getting those debts paid and I'm buying one straight away. I'm not looking to have that super fast Supra. I am more into having a Supra that has around 550-600 horsepower and can take corners like a king. That's where the Supra shined when it first came out, this hysteria with Supras being best for drag, mmmm not really.. Well it's an amazing drag car no doubt. But having a Supra that can be use as a daily but still take to the track and put in good laps(not drag). That's is what I am looking for in a Supra these days.
Stock Supra brakes were literally top shelf in 1993 and are specifically designed for multiple 100mph+ stops without significant brake fade. If yours isn’t performing well I’d say you’ve got some components wearing out. Your Master Cylinder may well be in need of replacement yet still providing decent pressure. My 1994 Celica GT4 WRC has the same brakes and it doesn’t get driven very much either. After a track day where I felt it’s brakes were adequate but faded way too fast, I went ahead and bit the bullet and rebuilt my Master Cylinder, Front calipers and lubed all four sets of guides and replaced all four sets of pads with new OEM pads even tho they had most of their material left. Plus all new brake fluid. Now it will snap your neck now - over and over and over with no issues. If you’re not familiar with the ‘94 GT4 WRC it is very similar to your Supra aside from it being a 4cyl AWD car. We have the same specs on pistons, bores, stroke, valves,Yamaha heads, etc etc. hell, even the stock Turbos are the same aside from mine having a twin-entry turbine whereas you simply got two of them. Obviously, I didn’t get the complicated sequential setup but mine DID come with factory anti-lag, water/methanol injection and a huge water to air intercooler with integrated IC sprayer bar (cools the heat exchanger with washer fluid). I said all that to setup the similarity of the identical braking system, general similarities of the two cars but most importantly to tell you this is a VERY heavy Celica - it’s hundreds of pounds heavier than the next closest model so my brakes do have quite a job to do. I’d spend the money to refresh that braking system if yours is fading. It shouldn’t be suffering from brake fade noticeably on track day hard braking. Anyway, yours is a beautiful car! Mine is also black, I wish we could get these two andmy MR2 Turbo together for a family photo!
Yeah but there's something magical about turbo lag. Companies are fighting to make VERY SMALL (say 1 to 1.5 liter) turbo engines with no lag... which is fine to emulate old V6s and shit power wise... but say a turbo diesel truck? When that bitch spools at like 3,000 rpm and it took 5 seconds for it to spool and you take off... it just feels so good. It's like a sling shot of power... I have an old Saab 900 turbo from the 80s, and the garrett turbo they put in it was too big for a 2 liter engine, but it comes on strong at like 4,000 rpm. Redline is only 5,500 for those cars, but if you're not careful you'll blast right past it because once it freight trains the boost it feels awesome. It's one of those it's not fast but it feels fast because of what it is situations...
hmm, well my 2.6l straight 6 twin turbo builds boost starting at 3k and it redlines at 9. Makes 600+hp at 8. So, not sure why you'd try to compare diesel to small gas anyway. Two completely different setups for two completely different purposes.
I got a last gen celica (2002) gts. It's only got just over 40k miles on it. While it isn't as popular as the supra. It's becoming just as rare (especially ones with the factory body kit. The action package)
E85 isn't that much better. You're better off just running what's best for your setup and tune and worry about the money later. But then, if you can afford the car and the build, you probably don't have to worry about the gas prices. At least, I don't. But here's the thing. Ethanol requires about 30% more volume. So you're losing about a 1/3 of a tank quicker than with 91. So add that extra 30% into it and let's do some elementary math. 91 octane at 3.09 per gallon for 16 gallons = $49.44 per full tank fill up. E85 at 2.25 per gallon for 20 gallons (to account for extra 30% usage) = $46.80 per full tank fill up. So you're really only saving $2.64 PER TANK and how much do you really drive it? I fill the tank in my GT-R about twice a month so I'm saving less than 6 bucks a month on E85 and my paycheck monthly is well over 7 grand. I'm not sweating that extra 6 bucks, but I do run E85 because that's how I'm choosing to run this build and tune to make 600+hp, burn colder, and have less knock concerns.
I just learned the other day that they can handle 700+ horsepower on stock block. That is very impressive. Also Mr. Spaghetti I like your choice of name for your son. I noticed it on the wall of your cribs video.
but i thought mr. speget said he doesnt like flipping cars but driving them.. he says he wants to keep value up by not driving it.. mr. speget i cought u
INKY06 was thinking the same thing. If I’m gonna have a car with that much power I’d only ever use it at a track. My friend Nate daily’s a 1500HP Shelby and it’s hell 😂
id rather have a well balanced 500hp supra than a crazy dragged out 1000+hp model. call me crazy but i like to be able drive a car no matter what the weather is.
It should be more how many supras are in the 800hp range. Cams, fuel, large turbo, race gass or e85. That's where I'm at. He's correct though to SAFELY jump up to that 1000hp you need to build the bottom end. You're playing with fire on an expensive engine if you routinely run high numbers on a stock bottom end.
1. I can hardly believe that it's a common thought that most Supras make that power. 2. I've discovered that I would hate owning a 1000hp street car. all that aside, I liked the vid!
Very nice video, explained the real situation well, which actually people who know some about cars know. One think you pointed the lag on the 1000hp car, can that be resolved with anti-lag to spool up the turbos? I mean since the amount of money spent on the car is huge, so why ot an anti-lag, will it not work as I think it should?
sergsrt8 where I live (Houston) there is stations with e85 everywhere . The lower cost of e85 balances out the lower fuel economy. I’m getting 5 miles less with e85 when I’m not on it. For winters just flash another tune .
ISP has a customer with a white Supra running a Borgwarner on E85. All stock long block and internals. Making just a little shy of 950whp last I saw it on the break your heart dyno. Races every weekend or every other weekend. Rob build is from the stone ages.
$1500 to Detail a Supra?? Tell you what!! How about I come over to your place, you give me $1500 and I kick you in the nuts and we will call it a day. 🎉
That appears to be an American flag in the back on the shelf. Would you mind showing some respect for it and not storing your weedeater on top of it please?
This guy^ Respect for a country which thrives on perpetual war and destruction. This loonie sure got brainwashed by the military industrial complex/ deep state.
This is why you have more than one set of tires and a tune/boost controller with a high and low so you can drive it anywhere on low boost add my friend does. Btw, he does have Tilton clutch, coilovers, aftermarket brakes and so much more and he has 978 whp on high boost, head never been removed.
Never cared for the people The culture behind the Supra, most are like GTR fanboys, just idiots and childish. If it weren't for those people I'd love the Supra and GTR(skylines, the new R35 is just aged garbage) little more.
Brolution Gaming ...as opposed to the AARP crowd (Corvette) or rich douches on parade (virtually any exotic)? I agree though. It's not a bad car but it's been oversold. The bad movies and the terrible body kits only reinforce that. It's still less toxic than the Honda Civic but not by a lot. It handles well (far better than the Corvette of the era, I once owned one) but if I wanted a 1K horsepower car I would choose something else. At 430ish horsepower though, it's a pretty cool car. More than that and you're just deciding how much extra low end you're willing to give up since you're ditching the factory twin turbo system
I want to get and save Supra MK4 and Skyline R34 from these dumb kids and then keep them stock or with few fully reversible minor mods on exhaust and keeping the stock parts. I want to do it before they can import R34s to USA cuz then every Skyline R34 on earth will go bye bye to too rich Paul Walker wannabes and get wasted, just like the Supra, on rice or failed attempts to replicate 1000bhp dragster builds and then prolly total it -_-
Brolution Gaming Why is there always somebody complaining about a Supra or a skyline??? All the time, some random person that has never owned a Supra or skyline is always talking shit and at the end of the day nobody cares about eachother!!! you guys are envious, thats the true fact of the matter, apart from you guys hating that these cars get attention, you have to complain about the people who like them??? Dude get a life!!! Stop giving a shit youll live longer!!!!
Cricis11700 nah he's right, personally I love the Supra and the skylines, but the fanbase around these cars is one of the most toxic and idiotic in the whole car community
Who tf try’s to make 1000hp and still has stock brakes
Jose Salinas Meeee
Someone has done it
youd be surprised
The supra mk4 out of the factory had preety awesome brakes
ik im 1 year late but id bet its around 550-700 hp
Over 15 years ago: What's the retail on one of those? More than you can afford pal...Ferrari.
Present day: What's the retail on one of those? More than you can afford pal... Supra.
Anyone willing to pay $40K or more for supra is a dumbass. There are Supras listed for over $100k.. so someone buys it spends let's say 60 grand on a poopra.. usually people hungry for compliments would spend that on supra, but once they own one they will realize that nowadays nobody cares about Supras..
I see clean supras for 5k where i live l0l
And where is that? Cuz shells are at least 15k
Ok, whatever you say Jackoff...
FALSE NEWZZZ
puts 40k Toyota in garage
puts 400k ferrari in rain with tree crap failing over it.
-spaghetti
Louis Lewis lmao
Lol nailed it. He loves his Supra
Let’s see that ferrari is still in production! There isn’t that many MK IV Supra’s left in the word and Toyota doesn’t make them anymore
Yeah because he is a smart guy and appreciates a good car. Supra prices are going up like crazy and Ferrari's do the opposite . Toyota lead the industry and the mk4 is the best car they have ever built, Do the math.
FideTheProducer most car people would put the Supra in the garage
"cars are not investments."
"I don't drive my car that much so i can keep it's value."
-same guy, different day.
Sean Silagy lmao this spaghetti tastes contradictory
did he really say this? god damn. there are plenty of cars that go up in value
well they aren't investments. Basically what he means is that while no investment is guaranteed, it takes a kind of minimum level of return percentage likelyhood to be an investment, if you don't think that then the lotto is "an investment". He's basically saying, don't buy cars assuming they'll go up in value, it's not a reliable enough investment to qualify as an investment. Rob can afford to "risk" it because at the end of the day, if a car tanks in value, he'll be fine. He doesn't go out of his way to destroy his chances of making money off a car, but he doesn't consider buying cars a means of investing, he buys cars to own and drive them.
also he dosent like it when people mention flags all strewn over the place
Don Ziolkowski in that case then you shouldn't buy stocks assuming they will only go up in value. It really just depends on the car you buy just like it does with stocks. Not every car will go up in price just like not every stock will go up in price
Rob you have WAY too many cars so i'd like to make a few suggestions
1. Fire your tuner/builder
2. If you're in excess of 800hp, please get a twin disk clutch. In the supra world the v160 destroys everything in front and behind it, hence people run 1500hp thru a stock trans. Crank walk is no fun either.
3. Go thru your entire suspension with super pro poly bushings, get a 2 way lsd, trd sways, dial in your rear suspension to allow some compressions under power but not so stiff where you shock the tire transient shift. She's will track dead straight and not dance under boost.
4. Change your brake lines to SS lines, bleed dry and run dot4 brake fluid. Ill guarantee that you can stop more than once. Its known fact that the 20+ year old lines expand under pressure inhibiting braking performance.
5. Run e85
6. There are 1000whp supra's out there on stock bottom end that last, torque but more so the down stroke on the motor is what kills a 2J, this was ascertained years ago so a good tuner can keep the torque down but make power.
7. Turbo sizing is everything / tuning and your turner is everything else.
8. I have a 1300whp car, 930 on its lowest boost setting with AC and progressive traction control that I routinely take on 8 hour weekend road trips and yes I get caught in the rain
9. Try the Toyo R888R, it dead hooks 1100whp and can handle 60mph in the rain on a 19'' rim
10. This is an overly capable 20+ year old platform that can make stupid power but you need to be realistic and upgrade the parts in the body to make the platform itself more modern. There's a reason the supra is in the garage and the 488 is outside.
Keep making videos but out of respect, some of the things youre saying is 10-15 year old information.
Am curious, How many miles would a 1300whp engine last between rebuilds?
@@NidalRashid it depends on your driving style.
I get what you're trying to say, but let's not pretend driving 1000+ HP in the wet is enjoyable.
@@chrismackay9268 you're absolutely right, moreover driving any high powered RWD car in the wet can be tricky or even dangerous.
@@the8thvictim For sure, my old R32 Skyline had around 500HP at the wheels and that was a handful even in the dry.
But I also built that myself in my teens, so I didn't really do it properly haha.
Most Supras don't make 1000HP because stock ones come with 220 - 320 HP, that's why
that's why japanese engineers are awesome. they make 320HP cars which can be modified into 1000+ HP with relatively small money
isn't that enough?
They made (as in used to) 320HP cars that can be modded into 4-500HP cars with relatively small money. To get into the 1000+HP club you're talking major modifications and big money-especially since everything for a Supra is going to cost a lot. You want 1000HP for relatively small money, go buy a used LS engine, strap on an eBay turbo, and hope it holds together long enough to impress somebody at the dyno lol.
David Wright nope
Marcell Lovas small money? did u not watch the video? lmao
Today Mr. Spaghetti tells us to upgrade the garlic bread on a 1000 meatball pastamobile
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jacobsnacob1 u mean upgrade the tomato soup'ra
Of course, most Supra's don't make 1000 horsepower. They make 3000 horsepower.
Actually, supras are in a superposition of both horsepower ratings
@@connorkenway8613 we all know thai thanks
😂savage
Lol most make under 500hp
Keep dreaming ErwinSchrodinger64.😆😆
Not driving your car is like not having sex with your girlfriend to "save" her for the next guy.
Jarle Kjærvoll Wiig if you have the money to spend on gas then yeah drive it all the time lol but who wants to spend 400 each week on gas?
ShyGuy_is_Famous 400 is an exaggeration
@@2mjz84 6:03
skylinegtr32 Wtf
Lmao
last video: ''cars are sold to be driven''
this video: ''i don't drive my car so it holds value''
Rektinson Spaghetti logic
Rektinson exactly what I was thinking
Rektinson he's just hating on solomon
Rektinson this is a built car that cost 400 dollars to fill, I think this is a bit different
Yeah. He definitely sounds like the reason he's not driving it is because gas. I imagine he drove it around for a day or two and went "oh shit I just burned $200 of gas"
Rob spaghetti here with my tomato soup'ra
Holy shit did I really just type that...
I hate myself
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OvertimesHouse W
It was good
Delete this please
That Supra is so clean tho
Encryptic Methods not really
Encryptic Methods more like $45 usd for a big car
You do understand the supra is running on e85 fuel which can cost 30-40 dollars for a one gallon right?
119 OCTANE RACE FUEL e85 is cheaper than 87
Kyle Rogers e85 is cheaper than regular gasoline lol it's less than $2 a gallon
Thank you so much Rob. This is great to hear from someone with good experience on the supra.
"going zero to holy crap real quick" best line ever
Isn't there E85 available in new york?
This 1000hp supra build is actually pretty old school compared to these days, throw a flex fuel sensor in and a borg warner EFR on it and all your fuel problems are solved and all your lag problems are solved. Want even less lag? 3.4L stroker kit runs $5k usd
$6,500 for a clutch? Yeah, maybe in 2007. These days a good quality twin plate that'll hold that runs all of $2.5k usd.
couldn't have said it any better myself
damstachizz thank you for saying this. His build is definitely old school
Matt Coffey you're an idiot
e85 isn't as simple you need massive injectors, my supra runs on e85 I got 3 fuel pumps, and 2150s. Dumping that much fuel into the motor, you have to clean your spark plugs every time you drive. You have to change oil more often. Try building a supra and you will see :)
That's not really true, I have several friends with 2jz and 2400cc injectors, no problems with fuel delivery with 2 pumps. No problems with the oil changes or spark plugs. Runs E85. Several with high compression aswell, some even strokers!
I love Rob's videos. Realistic, informative and entertaining.
etcx1 Yeah, Rob Dahm has a great channel
yea he has great honest information..someone thats finally showing numbers and the reality of "having" it
This might be his best video yet.
He needs Nasinex. (Nasal-y voice)
TheJCorbi82 less coke
George R Haha haha... Good one!
Rob please go talk to the guys down in Florida at Realstreet Performance or Titan Motorsports, your build is very outdated. Technology has come a long way in the past 5-10 years by leaps and bounds. You should really consider upgrading your turbo to today's standards and upgrade your standalone fuel management to proefi or Aem infinity, also go e-85. You will love your car so much more after doing so.
Infandous Ktenology AHAHAHAHAHA
Infandous Ktenology I'm sorry is our dominance in the world making you mad
I think it's more your crazy president that's making us mad. Deny climate change to bring back coal jobs? It's the 21st century, climate change has been confirmed, running he country as if it's still the late 1950s isn't going to help.
He doesn't deny climate change, he denies humans are causing it. Which is the problem. It's hard to deny climate change so he defects that onto the planet is doing it not us oh well.
MK4KADA. The guy seriously has no idea what he's talking about. He's just another "more money than sense" type of person.
$1500 to have it detailed... but water spots on wheels..
he thinks it costs 6000 for a clutch to hold 1000hp LOLOL. Clearly he pays whatever anybody tells him.
ill clean those wheels for you... it will cost you about 700 dollars since its a 1000 hp supra. I have to use a different Soap made for 1000hp supras, a special wash mitt and chammie all made specifically for 1000hp supras. ill do the whole car for 1500 😁
Could a hit a puddle on the way home... bro u need to relax and put away the magnifying glass..
okay 1500 to detail a supra? someone's embellishing a little bit here
No. He did a video about it. Paint correction and detailing. I wouldn't pay that, but hey, it's his money.
its a special process... we play ambient music to relax the car, have scented candles for aromatherapy , give it a massage... Its very important when a Supra is stressed out. For 1500$, its a good deal.
Nothing about that detail looks 1500
I fully believe that a rich idiot would spend over a thousand bucks to have someone else clean his car.
Im guessing 3 stage paint correction and ceramic coating. So yes 1500 is worth it. I have a scat pack and did the same thing. She shines all the time and dont have to wax for 5 years guaranteed by warranty. Kinda like a screen protector for your phone but on your ride.
yesterday rob spaghetti said cars are not investments, but today rob spaghetti mentions that he could sell his car for alot of spaghetti sauce and then buy another for half a can.
OMG, GOLD! XD XD
Inner G bro I'm dying first one of these I've laughed at and it was a dam breaking 😂
@Inner G Came to say just this.
Context.
ahaaaaahahahaha
Couple of things that you are totally miss-informing people on Mr.Spaghetti:
-- You do not need C16 to make 1000hp on a supra, e85 (pump gas on most states) now a days will allow this car to make that power without breaking the bank, 600 on 93 octane with Flex fuel.
-- To make 850 you don't need much, good standalone (AEM infinity) valve springs / cams and bolt on turbo.
-- You can make them spool much quicker with the right turbo / manifold combo, mine spools at 3500 full boost by 4500 and holds all the way to 8k (6766 ball bearing turbo)
-- Clutch technology has come a long way, I have a RPS twin disk carbon clutch on mine and is as easy to drive as a stock clutch supra, also you are totally wrong on the price as I just bought it paid $2500 for it brand new not 6k like you claim
-- You are right about driving them on the rain, this is def a car that can only be driven on perfect weather
-- Road racing tires on a straight line car is always a bad idea, I would def recommend ET street Rs thats what I use on mine and car hooks and goes strait.
GTR vs. The World I've been wanting to figure out a 2jz swap onto a Toyota 4Runner and this comment has help a lot thanks
Ditto that, 32psi on E85 hits the mark at 2.64/gallon
GTR vs. The World i love you
very well said
Robert D what? It burns more than 100l/100km?
I just flew into vegas and boy are my arms tired.
Joel Rogers oh boy
what a garage queen
Sup dude
Don't talking about Rob like that he might be a little al dente but he's no Queen
Garage Queen
Dyno King
How many hp is that weedwacker on top of the flag?
He spent so much time and money on his supra that he has nothing left for fashion sense.
Doesn't need fashion sense, drives a Supra and Ferrari.
Who needs a fashion sense when you have a bad ass car? I’ll take car parts and a good time in the garage building it up than a good fashion sense any day. No time to worry about what I’m wearing as long as I’m showered and smell good and have something on that’s all that matters
@@jakedylan103 This dude looks like a middle schooler presenting his at the science fair
@@chainawemi wow, that's original. Just so you know, there's a comment from literally years ago saying the same thing.
400-450whp is probably the sweet spot for most cars for daily drivers. 🏎
For daily drivers even 100 HP is kinda enough. For street legal and fun car your mentioned sweet spot is more true.
Thomas more like 600-700 depends on power weight ratio ;)
that's way too much
I agree especially if you don't have traction control
depends honestly, of coarse you don't need a lot for daily driving. But today's modern cars aren't like these old supras. You can have a 1000hp car that you want to have fun on the weekends with but daily it because it drives like stock under normal throttle conditions.
Today Rob spaghetti tell's us that not everyone who owns a supra has deep pockets.
Jere Wall thanks
anytime bud ;)
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Meat God you bessent
Meat God you piece of shit have nothing else better to do with your life
Rob you should buy a normal daily and call it the Spagettimobile
And then I want to see you drift it
Protozerostar Then after he blows the tires off he can say "Goddammit I burnt the meatballs!"
Isn't the Volt his daily?
"just got this new daily guys, not gonna drift it or anything, just gonna keep it stock."
LOL rob actually driving let alone drifting?
Hes more of a sunday cruiser/ highway blasting.
+Jacob M'Boi fucking Orion lol
You forgot to mention that with the right decals, you can add 300-350whp plus 100% coolness to your ride
After owning a 800hp MKIV supra I can tell you its VERY easy to make the 800hp reliably on the stock bottom end. Supra held the best 0-60 stopping time until the Porsche Carrera GT came around...the brakes are amazing stock. You do need sticky tires...supras are probably the most violent car i've ever been in when the boost kicks in and that back end loves to float around. Stock suspension is definitely very bouncy...probably the best upgrade you can get out of the box imo
sirrloin Was about to take Shit That Never Happened for 400 but then I checked your account. You weren't lying... That's awesome.
What about your Porsche theory where you should drive and enjoy the car
Tony Condor yea he just said not to save ur cars and enjoy them, now he's saying to save ur cars
Tony Condor I believe in that he was referring to not just buying it new because you know it will go up in value
Tony Condor he was going to drive the Supra today... except it was raining then said if he'd sell it he'd buy a higher mile one to drive it. This isn't hard
+ben horton but that's exactly what he did tho.
austin no he bought it used
so being the warden at Superjail allows one to afford a mk4 Supra. dope.
what's going on with the evo make a update video
king jimmy and his corvette
king jimmy Was just wondering the same thing..
Connor Serianna Smith same
I Am Sekou shivams abandoned evo
Look A G shivam died. He didn't get a cure for leprosy.
I've never gotten the vibe that Rob actually loves or has a passion for cars. He always seems to be complaining and doesn't strike me as a fun/cool guy to be around.
1.6K Supra fanboy dreams crushed haha
thetravdawg lmao it’s 1.7k now
@@Username-2 what did he say?
@@joshhall2323 listen to the video and you'll know
Supras are trash
Modest Pug Gaming keep playing your fucking games
A 6 cylinder with a massive turbo has lag... interesting...
That's why LS motors and coyotes are more popular, you just bolt a big turbo and you make big numbers
The California Garage inb4 2jz rb26 glorifiers
Nestea Iced tea I'm not saying I don't like 2jz or rb26, I'm just saying if you want to make a ton of power from very little you use the LS or coyote
Envy Sam I'm talking about just bolting a turbo and I've seen this guy with a almost stock coyote and he was running 18 psi and he was able to get high 700s
Cough +Sloppy Mechanics Cough.
The California Garage 2jzs and R154 transmissions are known to be monsters.. Holding 800-900+hp on stock internals.
I love how the supra is nice and cozy in the garage while his other cars are sitting outside, that’s supra love right there
Good Honest review that one can understand. No BS, just facts. Kudos Rob.
Today Mr. Spaghetti tells us why he doesn't let his meatballs get wet.
1000bhp is nice for showing off but I'd say 600bhp is the limit for a car that you can live with.
600 is still bit too much i would say 500 but i get what you're saying.
I’d say 600-700... 700 absolute most
Do you guys even know what kind of numbers are you talking about lol... 700 is already too much to handle for the average guy on the road, let alone to live with that and use it. 500 is absolute max for normal usage, that will throw you around your car too, any further is dick length competition..
Filip Gereg I'm pretty sure that they talk about this from a view of a car guy which isn't the average guy that drives his 150hp vw passat to work and back.
What else do you need? The only other time that power comes remotely useful (except for stupid people to masturbate over the numbers and BUY BUY BUY) is the track. How many times per year do you go to the track? And when you do, do you REALLY need more than 400 bloody horsepower to have fun?
can somebody explain all the spaghetti jokes I always read on the comments...
nac5000 😂😂
Seriously don't get it either
its his name
Very good video....only thing I would say is....have to drive it or it's not worth it. If you are in it for money go invest in property....cars are made to be driven and have fun. Don't waste you life letting it sit so you can look at it!
i feel like this supra has been rolllled hella back in miles. tons of videos of rob drivig but the miles never budge
RelentlessCreation Noooo. That would be so wrong to do! Have some self respect... just disconnect the speed sensor!
Everything he talks about in this video applies for normal cars too... So stupid to say it is like it's only applies for Supras
Xsef That's not what he is getting at... a lot of supra owner say they have 1000hp and he is just saying most don't and giving the reasons why
You had me at “overnight some parts from Japan”
daniel webb right the Supra come from Japan
Today Mr spaghetti let's us know ramen is not as refined as Italian spaghetti
I respect how honest this is.
Rob, I really hope you never sell your Supra. You have had it for so long that it's a part of you! :)
Supra is my dreamcar, getting older though but still love the car. Getting those debts paid and I'm buying one straight away. I'm not looking to have that super fast Supra. I am more into having a Supra that has around 550-600 horsepower and can take corners like a king. That's where the Supra shined when it first came out, this hysteria with Supras being best for drag, mmmm not really.. Well it's an amazing drag car no doubt. But having a Supra that can be use as a daily but still take to the track and put in good laps(not drag). That's is what I am looking for in a Supra these days.
Switch to E85. Cheaper than 93 octane. Same hp as C16.
shit ruins your engine though. but be my guest
the engine is fine... just the rubber hoses and shit like that which are EASILY replaceable
You need to do a fair bit of work to make running e85 worth it.
What wheels you got on your profile pic ?
Dude said 1500 to detail it I’m geeked
My dream car was always a 800hp supra, above that it just doesn't seem to get any traction
Stock Supra brakes were literally top shelf in 1993 and are specifically designed for multiple 100mph+ stops without significant brake fade. If yours isn’t performing well I’d say you’ve got some components wearing out. Your Master Cylinder may well be in need of replacement yet still providing decent pressure. My 1994 Celica GT4 WRC has the same brakes and it doesn’t get driven very much either. After a track day where I felt it’s brakes were adequate but faded way too fast, I went ahead and bit the bullet and rebuilt my Master Cylinder, Front calipers and lubed all four sets of guides and replaced all four sets of pads with new OEM pads even tho they had most of their material left. Plus all new brake fluid. Now it will snap your neck now - over and over and over with no issues. If you’re not familiar with the ‘94 GT4 WRC it is very similar to your Supra aside from it being a 4cyl AWD car. We have the same specs on pistons, bores, stroke, valves,Yamaha heads, etc etc. hell, even the stock Turbos are the same aside from mine having a twin-entry turbine whereas you simply got two of them. Obviously, I didn’t get the complicated sequential setup but mine DID come with factory anti-lag, water/methanol injection and a huge water to air intercooler with integrated IC sprayer bar (cools the heat exchanger with washer fluid).
I said all that to setup the similarity of the identical braking system, general similarities of the two cars but most importantly to tell you this is a VERY heavy Celica - it’s hundreds of pounds heavier than the next closest model so my brakes do have quite a job to do.
I’d spend the money to refresh that braking system if yours is fading. It shouldn’t be suffering from brake fade noticeably on track day hard braking.
Anyway, yours is a beautiful car! Mine is also black, I wish we could get these two andmy MR2 Turbo together for a family photo!
I loved this car back in the late 90s but I would NEVER ever pay the kind of money they’re going for now. I’d rather get a Supercar for that
Today Mr. Spaghetti explains how big horsepower is made and what boost lag is
Today Mr. spaghetti tells us you need tires and brakes to stop a car.
Not all supras have a 1,000hp? my whole life has been a lie!!! NOooooOOO!
From 0- holly crap! Very quick 👏👏
That is the best expansion I've heard
First of your videos that I have seen. Really awesome down to earth telling-it-like-it-is video on the realities of owning a real performance vehicle
nothing you said is exclusive to Supras....................
Someone tell my why the hell the 488 is outside getting nuts dropped on it ! Wasn't that 350k !
because Supra is more important to him
Mantas Jurksa Rightly so.
Blacky Mcblacks much cheaper cars can be more enjoyable
Because the Ferrari will lose its value in 2 years
Yeah but there's something magical about turbo lag. Companies are fighting to make VERY SMALL (say 1 to 1.5 liter) turbo engines with no lag... which is fine to emulate old V6s and shit power wise... but say a turbo diesel truck? When that bitch spools at like 3,000 rpm and it took 5 seconds for it to spool and you take off... it just feels so good. It's like a sling shot of power...
I have an old Saab 900 turbo from the 80s, and the garrett turbo they put in it was too big for a 2 liter engine, but it comes on strong at like 4,000 rpm. Redline is only 5,500 for those cars, but if you're not careful you'll blast right past it because once it freight trains the boost it feels awesome. It's one of those it's not fast but it feels fast because of what it is situations...
hmm, well my 2.6l straight 6 twin turbo builds boost starting at 3k and it redlines at 9. Makes 600+hp at 8. So, not sure why you'd try to compare diesel to small gas anyway. Two completely different setups for two completely different purposes.
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The GTE block itself is good for about ~2100 crank hp. The rods will snap around ~1300 crank hp.
I got a last gen celica (2002) gts. It's only got just over 40k miles on it. While it isn't as popular as the supra. It's becoming just as rare (especially ones with the factory body kit. The action package)
if u want 1000 hp contact real st. That's what I'd do if I had a supra
I am a Polymath cool bro
I am looking for one.. Hard to find.. So I think my best bet is the Demon. It'll be easier to hit the 1000hp.
This will decimate all, after, you put about fifteen grand in it or more. If we have to, overnight parts from Japan.
-Jetta driver
"gas is expensive" put it on E85 bra
E85 isn't that much better. You're better off just running what's best for your setup and tune and worry about the money later. But then, if you can afford the car and the build, you probably don't have to worry about the gas prices. At least, I don't. But here's the thing. Ethanol requires about 30% more volume. So you're losing about a 1/3 of a tank quicker than with 91. So add that extra 30% into it and let's do some elementary math.
91 octane at 3.09 per gallon for 16 gallons = $49.44 per full tank fill up.
E85 at 2.25 per gallon for 20 gallons (to account for extra 30% usage) = $46.80 per full tank fill up.
So you're really only saving $2.64 PER TANK and how much do you really drive it? I fill the tank in my GT-R about twice a month so I'm saving less than 6 bucks a month on E85 and my paycheck monthly is well over 7 grand. I'm not sweating that extra 6 bucks, but I do run E85 because that's how I'm choosing to run this build and tune to make 600+hp, burn colder, and have less knock concerns.
Here in the UK when it rain starts, the fun starts.
I just learned the other day that they can handle 700+ horsepower on stock block. That is very impressive. Also Mr. Spaghetti I like your choice of name for your son. I noticed it on the wall of your cribs video.
but i thought mr. speget said he doesnt like flipping cars but driving them.. he says he wants to keep value up by not driving it.. mr. speget i cought u
If I had a supra it would push about 650 because when are you going to use 1400 like never
INKY06 was thinking the same thing. If I’m gonna have a car with that much power I’d only ever use it at a track. My friend Nate daily’s a 1500HP Shelby and it’s hell 😂
I live in Germany so....... no speed limit
id rather have a well balanced 500hp supra than a crazy dragged out 1000+hp model.
call me crazy but i like to be able drive a car no matter what the weather is.
I'm not sure if it was intended but I like the F&F reference with it being a Supra and you said something about overnighting parts from Japan.
It should be more how many supras are in the 800hp range. Cams, fuel, large turbo, race gass or e85. That's where I'm at. He's correct though to SAFELY jump up to that 1000hp you need to build the bottom end. You're playing with fire on an expensive engine if you routinely run high numbers on a stock bottom end.
Today Mr.Spaghetti tells us that 1000 meatballs might not fit in our bowls.
1500 to detail a Toyata. Stfu dude people dont detail lambos for 300 dollars... Its Toyota at the end of the day with Toyta paint.... lets be real
Same paint that is on my neighbor's corolla.
You don’t know anything about detailing 😂 ceramic coated and paint corrected
Today spaghetti will be talking about why organic pasta sauce makes 1000hp at the wheels
1. I can hardly believe that it's a common thought that most Supras make that power.
2. I've discovered that I would hate owning a 1000hp street car.
all that aside, I liked the vid!
Very nice video, explained the real situation well, which actually people who know some about cars know. One think you pointed the lag on the 1000hp car, can that be resolved with anti-lag to spool up the turbos? I mean since the amount of money spent on the car is huge, so why ot an anti-lag, will it not work as I think it should?
$1500 to detail the car?? You just about could have paid to re-paint the car at that cost.
marshall not true at all
Not true, but not real far off. Anyone who is paying 1500 to detail your car. Hit me up. I'll detail any car for 1000.
Josh Barth it’s a ceramic coating and paint correction
What's the gas mileage like on that?
InlineSix 1 mpg
Bullcrap, it gets 1/4 mpg.
InlineSix 2 gallons per mile
smiles per gallon
InlineSix about 12 smile per gallon
Rob why do you spend 400 per fill up lol save money and run e85 tbh
He spends 1500 on details too. Rich idiot.
this is one of the best car channels!
You do a great job on your videos. articulate and informative. subscribed.
Why not just go with E85?
12345qwert911 e85 sucks
SI RICKO why does it suck
SI RICKO you suck
yes sir it sucks because not every gas station has e85 plus cold starts are more harsh in the winter time not to mention reduced fuel economy
sergsrt8 where I live (Houston) there is stations with e85 everywhere . The lower cost of e85 balances out the lower fuel economy. I’m getting 5 miles less with e85 when I’m not on it. For winters just flash another tune .
900 is good enough for me
what's wrong with your outfit
funny reading the mean spirited comments from those suffering from jealousy. keep it up SSR, us that know love the channel.
ISP has a customer with a white Supra running a Borgwarner on E85. All stock long block and internals. Making just a little shy of 950whp last I saw it on the break your heart dyno. Races every weekend or every other weekend. Rob build is from the stone ages.
Personally I feel like 500 to 550hp is perfect
Ryan Walsh until you get used to it.
Ryan Walsh how much have you driven 550hp car?
$1500 to Detail a Supra?? Tell you what!! How about I come over to your place, you give me $1500 and I kick you in the nuts and we will call it a day. 🎉
*Zero to Holy crap* LOL
thanks for making a video of something the viewer could of googled.
Wow great explanation. Didnt even need a script or stutter at all.
I prefer the other Rob... THAT BEING SAID...
That appears to be an American flag in the back on the shelf. Would you mind showing some respect for it and not storing your weedeater on top of it please?
Nicholas Vernick sap
Spaghetti, show respect? LOL
This guy^ Respect for a country which thrives on perpetual war and destruction. This loonie sure got brainwashed by the military industrial complex/ deep state.
A patriot fucktard defending his POS country's flag.USA is terminal cancer to the world
Its a flag i leave my puerto rican flag laying around its not gonna kill you bruv
That's probably a 3.0 non turbo auto!! F**k sake get it fired up and stop talking....
This is why you have more than one set of tires and a tune/boost controller with a high and low so you can drive it anywhere on low boost add my friend does. Btw, he does have Tilton clutch, coilovers, aftermarket brakes and so much more and he has 978 whp on high boost, head never been removed.
Hi Rob, quick question. Love this format, super informative!
How about a 2006-2009 E92 335i? Is that the dream tuners car then?
Never cared for the people
The culture behind the Supra, most are like GTR fanboys, just idiots and childish. If it weren't for those people I'd love the Supra and GTR(skylines, the new R35 is just aged garbage) little more.
Brolution Gaming ...as opposed to the AARP crowd (Corvette) or rich douches on parade (virtually any exotic)? I agree though. It's not a bad car but it's been oversold. The bad movies and the terrible body kits only reinforce that. It's still less toxic than the Honda Civic but not by a lot. It handles well (far better than the Corvette of the era, I once owned one) but if I wanted a 1K horsepower car I would choose something else. At 430ish horsepower though, it's a pretty cool car. More than that and you're just deciding how much extra low end you're willing to give up since you're ditching the factory twin turbo system
Brolution Gaming You can't hate on the R35. it's a great car for under 100k.
I want to get and save Supra MK4 and Skyline R34 from these dumb kids and then keep them stock or with few fully reversible minor mods on exhaust and keeping the stock parts. I want to do it before they can import R34s to USA cuz then every Skyline R34 on earth will go bye bye to too rich Paul Walker wannabes and get wasted, just like the Supra, on rice or failed attempts to replicate 1000bhp dragster builds and then prolly total it -_-
Brolution Gaming Why is there always somebody complaining about a Supra or a skyline??? All the time, some random person that has never owned a Supra or skyline is always talking shit and at the end of the day nobody cares about eachother!!! you guys are envious, thats the true fact of the matter, apart from you guys hating that these cars get attention, you have to complain about the people who like them??? Dude get a life!!! Stop giving a shit youll live longer!!!!
Cricis11700 nah he's right, personally I love the Supra and the skylines, but the fanbase around these cars is one of the most toxic and idiotic in the whole car community