Yup! We just saw a working prototype being installed and tested on @Brettb35 bike stay tuned for more info. It's got Chromoly lower stanchion tubes like an MX bike (strong and zero stiction) and beefed up everywhere way beyond a DH MTB fork to handle a Surron or Talaria. Pretty excited about it!
Just remember the Surron frame was not designed for full scale motocross, you may find limitations and break the frame, wheel hubs, suspension components, or other parts. Coming up short on a jump for example could easily break things. For true MX racing we're looking forward to the Stark Varg.
Super video guys. Would you ever do the same treatment to a Talaria Sting? I've built mine up with a lot of similar parts and it's getting close to what you've done. With all the new e-motos coming out these days does this even make sense anymore? I'm not mad that I spent $15K on my Sting R even if a newer faster model comes out tomorrow, but it is an interesting discussion. It's a lot like computers - as soon as you build one there is a newer processor, better graphics and so on ... who would have guessed electric bikes would be evolving so quickly!
Good news, we just added an MX4 to our fleet, expect to see more content about it soon. Great question, if it's your passion and you have the $ to enjoy it by all means many of us do. But you bring up a great point to consider, in 2024 there is a flood of new bikes coming many of them similar to Ultra Bee and if your goals is bigger/strong/faster you would probably save money on an Ultra Bee or future bike platform.
We are definitely going to pit this against the Ultra when we have one. Spoiler alert this bike will destroy a stock Ultra Bee :) But, once the mods are available for Ultra we should be able to build a comparable bike for a fraction of the price.
With the setup described in the video and a Starcross5 tire I do contact the fender on big hits. There is barely enough clearance for the tire. Ideally you should have a suspension shop retune the fork and remove 1" travel from it. BUT, in all honesty the new EXT Ferro made the KTM forks irrelevant, save your time and money and buy the EXT Ferro instead it's a better choice for the Light Bee. This fork is way overkill for such a small bike. chargedcycleworks.com/products/ext-ferro-fork-for-surron-talaria
Great vid. You popped the breaker. Tech question: w/qs8 I thought we could bypass (remove) the breaker? Thought I heard that y’all were qs8 but still poppin the breaker.
We also heard this same advice so we reached out to our partners Chi Batteries and KO and EBMX to validate this advice. What we learned is that the breaker is primarily there for a surge of power related to plugging/unplugging the battery with the OEM connector which is not a sparkless connector. If you replace the battery connector with a sparkless designed one like the QS8 you can in fact remove the breaker. The controller and Battery BMS have safeguards in them to prevent over-current events and shut down if something happens. If you remove the breaker we do recommend unplugging your battery when the bike is not in use. If you have bypassed your battery BMS this is not recommended because you have removed one of the safeguards during the bypass procedure, do not remove the breaker if you've done this.
Yeah guys , you did a great job of modding the Surron, but it seems to me that the new Ultra Bee is the best answer for actual racing. But then again, maybe there are some technical applications that you could race the Light Bee , and do ok.Otherwise it is perhaps best to modd the Light Bee for no more than hard trail riding going forward. For what I use my Light Bee for, I couldn't ask for more. Luv it! And thanks for all of the time and effort you have put into Surron development.
I've got the same shock (EXT 600lbs) and EBMX extended swing arm setup and wondered if you could provide the clicker settings you would recommend (LSC-HSC-LSR-HBC)? I'm 170lbs without gear on but have the EBMX 72v57ah battery which weighs 46lbs... so I figure that should equal about the amount of weight you set yours up for since it's 16lbs heavier than stock... also, what sag for the rear did you end up with?
I'm glad you shared these info with us as I'm currently building that ktm 85 setup and for a few days I was trying to figure out how 21" wheel would be installed. One way I can think of for now is finding ktm freeride wheel which shares same hub as ktm 85 but is harder to find given lesser popularity of this bike. Looking at ktm original parts it is sold as black, but from SM-PRO they seem to provide a freeride version with color customization. Have you considered that option and if yes would be curious to know why you didn't go for it? You mentioned the EXT fork as a "cheaper" option: - I presume your current cost estimates are based on buying new ktm parts only ? but going to second hand market I think it can be much cheaper option in that case - also If you switch to KTM frontend, you get 3 upgrades in one: fork, wheel and brakes. So this should also be included in EXT option costs. Currently trying to find whole brake system fitting 2022 KTM 85 air fork. It seems it's only compatible after 2021 which unfortunately is considerably reducing availability in second hand sales. I'm hoping all upgrades I make for my current Talaria, I'll be able to backport when getting Ultra Bee later (including that 21" wheel) :)
@@ChargedCycleWorks Yeah I've noticed you were selling that afterwards. For brake system I got ktm 125 brake system which adapts perfectly on 85sx hopefully making this KTM 85 conversion even cheaper :)
Is it possible to use like a dirt bike 125 front wheel something like a 19 inch. Everyone is selling sur Ron wheels at a high price also there's not much parts or sur Ron's from my area but dirt bikes are big from here parts are very common.
The reason surron wheel prices are so much higher is because we have to custom manufacture parts including hubs and spokes. In manufacturing the more volume you produce the less expensive it is to make each part. At the moment we cannot make parts at the high volumes like dirt bike parts to bring the prices down to being equal.
The aftermarket is better for Surron, for example extended swingarms and linkages to adjust the geometry to name a few. And we already had the Surron partially modified from last year and wanted to go the full distance with it this year.
For the rock gardens they would be great but the hill climbs are pretty greasy and if you look at the dirt bikes they are all running knobby gummy tires with moose tubes which is what we did last year but with 16/19 wheels. Tires like Shinko 525 and Kenda Ibex
Wondering if it’s a better idea to just wait for the ultra bee or build one of these, ultra bee looks pretty good, factoring in prices, may be a better route, although heavier..
It might take a year for the aftermarket to catch up to ULtra, but once it does we'll be able to build a bike this capable for a fraction of the price using the Ultra platform.
@@ChargedCycleWorks thanks for the reply, are you out of stock on everything? I am happy to build myself. If you can send a lot of parts, or a little bit at a time, I’m thinking I still want to stick with this light bee platform. Let me know and I will get you my email address or my cell number. Thanks so much for your help! By the way, been riding dirt bikes for 50 years, I’ll be 59 years old next month, still feel like a kid, love this sport and refuse to give it up or act my age…👍🤪
Absolutely! It requires some changes in the tune, if you're local to us we can make that change, if not you can send us your controller and we can change it for you.
We get your point, but very few people do a frame up build like this on day1. Most people buy a Surron, and then upgrade it in stages over time. There are people in the Surron Modders facebook group working on frames, you might check some of those projects out.
Haha I have been collecting all my parts over the last 4 years. I started installing them a month ago. Its been some late nights after work. Over a 100hrs easily! I bought the battery last year Black Friday and finally opened the box two weeks ago! My I was the 12th person to order the K.O. combo and just opened the box 4 weeks ago! But I am glad I only tire the bike down once instead of one upgrade at a time!
The Luna wheels are not compatible with the Surron in this video. There is a reason they are that cheap, you get what you pay for. Made in China and $10 Chinese tires on them. Our wheels are much higher quality and come with name brand motocross tires: Bridgestone, Dunlop, Mitas, etc. Our front hub is also 7075 aluminum because 6065 is not strong enough for a Surron, remember the front hub is a mountain bike hub it was never designed for a bike this heavy. Luna is being lazy with this wheel option and sourcing 100% of it from China an the cheap. Will probably be OK for some people but fast riders should avoid them.
@@ChargedCycleWorks Thanks so much for the info you guys are the best! Can't argue with your points and can tell just by looking that you guys have a better and more solid over all product. Thing is I'm a pretty average rider so I don't think it's the end of the world for me atm, but good to know about the front hub and if they come back in stock at some point on your website, I'll definitely be grabbing a pair, along with a name brand tire and changing them out!
Hopefully you stuck with, "Laughy Taffy"? You don't get to choose your nick name it is given to you, that's the rules! I just finished my $14k ➕ build on my Segway with KO Moto, Chi Max 71v 51AHr, EVFreaks XL Extender, 21/19", Ohlins shock and DVO Onyx Fork (for now). Not installed yet KTM SX85 front-end at the tuners converting it to trail riding valving. I probably have over 100 hours into my build and that's not counting daily trips to Ace Hardware sourcing bolts and solutions to all the random problems encountered. I haven't popped the circuit breaker yet but its coming. I reached out to Chi they are going to quote me converting my battery over to 7 gauge with QS10 plugs. Argh... it never ends! My KTM Freeride is a better bike (mostly stock) and the Stark Varg was supposed to be here on Halloween but Stark is having Import issues right now. The Segway needs a better swingarm and chainline for a wider rear tire. The Freeride is a traction monster with the Motoz Arena Hybrid Gummy! The KTM is my go to bike. The Segway is my hooligan bike does a better job flying under the radar. Not sure what the Stark will be yet, a rocket ship for sure! I will hand the Freeride down to my son (13 years old right now) he should fit by Spring/Summer!
Most of the forks that come on the Surron (DNM, KKE, etc) are just under 10 lbs, the KTM air fork is 2x that about 18-19lbs, this including triples. But the KTM brakes are also significantly heavier than MTB brakes so that also adds additional weight. Total with brakes is 22.5 lbs.
Dont get me wrong...I love that bike but I think its a bit overkill if you are not going for competition. It takes out a bit the idea the Surron was created for.
We agree and we specifically talked about this in the video, it's no longer a surron, it's something more serious closer to an MX bike. And another problem with a build like this is that it makes you want to ride at speeds the frame was not intended for. We could go ride this bike on a full sized MX track and jump most of the jumps, but the problem is because the frame was not intended for that eventually you are going to break something and it could lead to serious injury. We definitely do not recommend trying to race a surron at full sized MX speeds and jumps...certain to find the weak points if you do.
It depends....range has far too many variables. Speed especially kills batteries. Terrain like hill climbs also has a large impact. The only real way to do a range comparison is to take multiple bikes with different configurations and each rider must ride the exact same speed which we've done in past videos. Then we can compare different setups under the same conditions...but there is still variance with rider weight and riding styles. Range tests are not easy to do objectively.
@@ChargedCycleWorks i understand that really. Im 240lbs 6.1 and my surron is gonna Weight like 70kg, im Thinking 17-18kw on a 60v 70ah battery and 58t sprocket, ko motor and controller... I will do mostly trails riding woth some hill climb i say 70:30 ratio I expect 3-4h solid hours on that thing. What you think?
@@simonasimak9523 the best way to estimate is take your current setup and riding right now and let's say you are riding on average 20 miles with a stock battery, and you purchase a battery with 2x the capacity (60v 32ah to 60v 70ah) then you just doubled your range to 40 miles. But, here is the problem a lot of people ignore. When you upgrade the power on your bike you will ALWAYS ride faster and use more energy and your range is never as long as you think it's going to be. For example we went from 15 miles on stock(ish) bikes to about 20 miles (sometimes less) with BAC8000 and about 12kw tunes and a much larger 53ah battery. Our range only went up about 25% but we are having 100x more fun at higher speeds.
right after this video the longest winter in Utah history began, we haven't put a ton of hours on the bike as a result. But, so far, she's a solid build. We have raced at Glen Helen and also put a few sandy off-road hours on it since this vid. The biggest struggle is dialing in the best tune for each condition, for example at glen helen we struggled to get the right power delivery, it was too soft out of corners, and too violent in a high speed corner. Need more seattime on a track to figure out how to best tune for track.
An Ext specific fork for Sur Ron? Really? triple clamp with what kind of travel? Hybrid air?
Yup! We just saw a working prototype being installed and tested on @Brettb35 bike stay tuned for more info. It's got Chromoly lower stanchion tubes like an MX bike (strong and zero stiction) and beefed up everywhere way beyond a DH MTB fork to handle a Surron or Talaria. Pretty excited about it!
It will be full air, with 2 positive air chambers. Exactly like their ntb fork. Crazy adjustable!
@@ChargedCycleWorks Open up pre-orders I cant wait.
@@ChargedCycleWorks Nice. Added travel or 8"? Keep us updated. Or better, do a video.
@@tianjohan4633 8 in.
Thanks guys for all answers 🙏
Can't wait to see comparison videos with the ultra bee in action now ! :)
The fork part is what interests me the most, I'm more of shooting to ride out on the MX track and playing with the gas bike is exactly my plan
Just remember the Surron frame was not designed for full scale motocross, you may find limitations and break the frame, wheel hubs, suspension components, or other parts. Coming up short on a jump for example could easily break things. For true MX racing we're looking forward to the Stark Varg.
Great vid. Loaded with great info that saved me from making numerous mistakes.
Awesome as always, thanks for providing such in depth info!
You have amazing content. Must be the best surron content there is. Do you ship to Finland?
Thank you! At this time we only ship to North America.
@@ChargedCycleWorks Bummer. Wish we had something as good available in Europe.
Super video guys. Would you ever do the same treatment to a Talaria Sting? I've built mine up with a lot of similar parts and it's getting close to what you've done. With all the new e-motos coming out these days does this even make sense anymore? I'm not mad that I spent $15K on my Sting R even if a newer faster model comes out tomorrow, but it is an interesting discussion. It's a lot like computers - as soon as you build one there is a newer processor, better graphics and so on ... who would have guessed electric bikes would be evolving so quickly!
Good news, we just added an MX4 to our fleet, expect to see more content about it soon. Great question, if it's your passion and you have the $ to enjoy it by all means many of us do. But you bring up a great point to consider, in 2024 there is a flood of new bikes coming many of them similar to Ultra Bee and if your goals is bigger/strong/faster you would probably save money on an Ultra Bee or future bike platform.
nice !!
thanks for answers !!
would be awesome to see comparison this breast with a stock surron ultra and its lightly modified version !!
We are definitely going to pit this against the Ultra when we have one. Spoiler alert this bike will destroy a stock Ultra Bee :) But, once the mods are available for Ultra we should be able to build a comparable bike for a fraction of the price.
Hi Brian. Do you need to modify the fork for a 21” wheel? Doesn't rub on full compression?
With the setup described in the video and a Starcross5 tire I do contact the fender on big hits. There is barely enough clearance for the tire. Ideally you should have a suspension shop retune the fork and remove 1" travel from it. BUT, in all honesty the new EXT Ferro made the KTM forks irrelevant, save your time and money and buy the EXT Ferro instead it's a better choice for the Light Bee. This fork is way overkill for such a small bike. chargedcycleworks.com/products/ext-ferro-fork-for-surron-talaria
Great vid. You popped the breaker. Tech question: w/qs8 I thought we could bypass (remove) the breaker? Thought I heard that y’all were qs8 but still poppin the breaker.
We also heard this same advice so we reached out to our partners Chi Batteries and KO and EBMX to validate this advice. What we learned is that the breaker is primarily there for a surge of power related to plugging/unplugging the battery with the OEM connector which is not a sparkless connector. If you replace the battery connector with a sparkless designed one like the QS8 you can in fact remove the breaker. The controller and Battery BMS have safeguards in them to prevent over-current events and shut down if something happens. If you remove the breaker we do recommend unplugging your battery when the bike is not in use. If you have bypassed your battery BMS this is not recommended because you have removed one of the safeguards during the bypass procedure, do not remove the breaker if you've done this.
Yeah guys , you did a great job of modding the Surron, but it seems to me that the new Ultra Bee is the best answer for actual racing. But then again, maybe there are some technical applications that you could race the Light Bee , and do ok.Otherwise it is perhaps best to modd the Light Bee for no more than hard trail riding going forward. For what I use my Light Bee for, I couldn't ask for more. Luv it! And thanks for all of the time and effort you have put into Surron development.
We are going to have a hard time choosing between Ultra and Light for this years TKO race!
@@ChargedCycleWorks good enough. You actually raced the one and have ridden the other.
I've got the same shock (EXT 600lbs) and EBMX extended swing arm setup and wondered if you could provide the clicker settings you would recommend (LSC-HSC-LSR-HBC)? I'm 170lbs without gear on but have the EBMX 72v57ah battery which weighs 46lbs... so I figure that should equal about the amount of weight you set yours up for since it's 16lbs heavier than stock... also, what sag for the rear did you end up with?
The cost of a nice bike is a lot but in reality power to weight ratio is worth every penny! 🙌🏼
I'm glad you shared these info with us as I'm currently building that ktm 85 setup and for a few days I was trying to figure out how 21" wheel would be installed. One way I can think of for now is finding ktm freeride wheel which shares same hub as ktm 85 but is harder to find given lesser popularity of this bike.
Looking at ktm original parts it is sold as black, but from SM-PRO they seem to provide a freeride version with color customization. Have you considered that option and if yes would be curious to know why you didn't go for it?
You mentioned the EXT fork as a "cheaper" option:
- I presume your current cost estimates are based on buying new ktm parts only ? but going to second hand market I think it can be much cheaper option in that case
- also If you switch to KTM frontend, you get 3 upgrades in one: fork, wheel and brakes. So this should also be included in EXT option costs.
Currently trying to find whole brake system fitting 2022 KTM 85 air fork. It seems it's only compatible after 2021 which unfortunately is considerably reducing availability in second hand sales.
I'm hoping all upgrades I make for my current Talaria, I'll be able to backport when getting Ultra Bee later (including that 21" wheel) :)
We sell custom built 21" wheels for the KTM WP 43mm forks here: chargedcycleworks.com/products/21-front-wheel-for-ktm-85-fork
@@ChargedCycleWorks Yeah I've noticed you were selling that afterwards. For brake system I got ktm 125 brake system which adapts perfectly on 85sx hopefully making this KTM 85 conversion even cheaper :)
Is it possible to use like a dirt bike 125 front wheel something like a 19 inch. Everyone is selling sur Ron wheels at a high price also there's not much parts or sur Ron's from my area but dirt bikes are big from here parts are very common.
The reason surron wheel prices are so much higher is because we have to custom manufacture parts including hubs and spokes. In manufacturing the more volume you produce the less expensive it is to make each part. At the moment we cannot make parts at the high volumes like dirt bike parts to bring the prices down to being equal.
What made you choose a Sur Ron over a Talaria Sting? I think a Talaria would have been a slightly better starting point for this mx build.
The aftermarket is better for Surron, for example extended swingarms and linkages to adjust the geometry to name a few. And we already had the Surron partially modified from last year and wanted to go the full distance with it this year.
I am wondering, why you make Surron bigger, when you have bigger Talaria - Is Talaria has worse base to build bike?
Thoughts about adding a trials tire for TKO?
For the rock gardens they would be great but the hill climbs are pretty greasy and if you look at the dirt bikes they are all running knobby gummy tires with moose tubes which is what we did last year but with 16/19 wheels. Tires like Shinko 525 and Kenda Ibex
Awesome video gents! I think you should name Nate's bike " The Parakeet"
LOLOL that's good!
When will you guys be selling in Canada?
We sell to Canada every day, but some items like batteries and bikes we cannot ship across borders.
Wondering if it’s a better idea to just wait for the ultra bee or build one of these, ultra bee looks pretty good, factoring in prices, may be a better route, although heavier..
It might take a year for the aftermarket to catch up to ULtra, but once it does we'll be able to build a bike this capable for a fraction of the price using the Ultra platform.
@@ChargedCycleWorks thanks for the reply, are you out of stock on everything? I am happy to build myself. If you can send a lot of parts, or a little bit at a time, I’m thinking I still want to stick with this light bee platform. Let me know and I will get you my email address or my cell number. Thanks so much for your help! By the way, been riding dirt bikes for 50 years, I’ll be 59 years old next month, still feel like a kid, love this sport and refuse to give it up or act my age…👍🤪
I just brought a 2019 husqvarna 85 full front end for 1000 nzd which is 650usd, just look out for blown up bikes parted out
Great deals come to those who are patient!
Can you run the ko motor with a bac8000
Absolutely! It requires some changes in the tune, if you're local to us we can make that change, if not you can send us your controller and we can change it for you.
What sucks about these builds, is that you're buying a Whole Surron, just to basically use the frame....
We get your point, but very few people do a frame up build like this on day1. Most people buy a Surron, and then upgrade it in stages over time. There are people in the Surron Modders facebook group working on frames, you might check some of those projects out.
Haha I have been collecting all my parts over the last 4 years. I started installing them a month ago. Its been some late nights after work. Over a 100hrs easily! I bought the battery last year Black Friday and finally opened the box two weeks ago! My I was the 12th person to order the K.O. combo and just opened the box 4 weeks ago! But I am glad I only tire the bike down once instead of one upgrade at a time!
Just an FYI to save a bunch of money for 21/18 wheels, Luna Cycle is selling a set for $550 and they are totally solid.
The Luna wheels are not compatible with the Surron in this video. There is a reason they are that cheap, you get what you pay for. Made in China and $10 Chinese tires on them. Our wheels are much higher quality and come with name brand motocross tires: Bridgestone, Dunlop, Mitas, etc. Our front hub is also 7075 aluminum because 6065 is not strong enough for a Surron, remember the front hub is a mountain bike hub it was never designed for a bike this heavy. Luna is being lazy with this wheel option and sourcing 100% of it from China an the cheap. Will probably be OK for some people but fast riders should avoid them.
@@ChargedCycleWorks Thanks so much for the info you guys are the best! Can't argue with your points and can tell just by looking that you guys have a better and more solid over all product. Thing is I'm a pretty average rider so I don't think it's the end of the world for me atm, but good to know about the front hub and if they come back in stock at some point on your website, I'll definitely be grabbing a pair, along with a name brand tire and changing them out!
Hopefully you stuck with, "Laughy Taffy"? You don't get to choose your nick name it is given to you, that's the rules!
I just finished my $14k ➕ build on my Segway with KO Moto, Chi Max 71v 51AHr, EVFreaks XL Extender, 21/19", Ohlins shock and DVO Onyx Fork (for now). Not installed yet KTM SX85 front-end at the tuners converting it to trail riding valving. I probably have over 100 hours into my build and that's not counting daily trips to Ace Hardware sourcing bolts and solutions to all the random problems encountered. I haven't popped the circuit breaker yet but its coming. I reached out to Chi they are going to quote me converting my battery over to 7 gauge with QS10 plugs. Argh... it never ends!
My KTM Freeride is a better bike (mostly stock) and the Stark Varg was supposed to be here on Halloween but Stark is having Import issues right now. The Segway needs a better swingarm and chainline for a wider rear tire. The Freeride is a traction monster with the Motoz Arena Hybrid Gummy! The KTM is my go to bike. The Segway is my hooligan bike does a better job flying under the radar. Not sure what the Stark will be yet, a rocket ship for sure! I will hand the Freeride down to my son (13 years old right now) he should fit by Spring/Summer!
What's the weight of the fork?
Most of the forks that come on the Surron (DNM, KKE, etc) are just under 10 lbs, the KTM air fork is 2x that about 18-19lbs, this including triples. But the KTM brakes are also significantly heavier than MTB brakes so that also adds additional weight. Total with brakes is 22.5 lbs.
@Charged Cycle Works cool. The Ferro is coming in right at 10lbs. That would change the game on that build.
@@Bezee4reeze which fork is that?
I’ll take 5 of those….
Just one more microphone and you’re there!
Dont get me wrong...I love that bike but I think its a bit overkill if you are not going for competition. It takes out a bit the idea the Surron was created for.
We agree and we specifically talked about this in the video, it's no longer a surron, it's something more serious closer to an MX bike. And another problem with a build like this is that it makes you want to ride at speeds the frame was not intended for. We could go ride this bike on a full sized MX track and jump most of the jumps, but the problem is because the frame was not intended for that eventually you are going to break something and it could lead to serious injury. We definitely do not recommend trying to race a surron at full sized MX speeds and jumps...certain to find the weak points if you do.
So guys, i really wanba kbkw whats the range with this setup now😂
It depends....range has far too many variables. Speed especially kills batteries. Terrain like hill climbs also has a large impact. The only real way to do a range comparison is to take multiple bikes with different configurations and each rider must ride the exact same speed which we've done in past videos. Then we can compare different setups under the same conditions...but there is still variance with rider weight and riding styles. Range tests are not easy to do objectively.
@@ChargedCycleWorks i understand that really. Im 240lbs 6.1 and my surron is gonna Weight like 70kg, im Thinking 17-18kw on a 60v 70ah battery and 58t sprocket, ko motor and controller...
I will do mostly trails riding woth some hill climb i say 70:30 ratio
I expect 3-4h solid hours on that thing. What you think?
@@simonasimak9523 the best way to estimate is take your current setup and riding right now and let's say you are riding on average 20 miles with a stock battery, and you purchase a battery with 2x the capacity (60v 32ah to 60v 70ah) then you just doubled your range to 40 miles. But, here is the problem a lot of people ignore. When you upgrade the power on your bike you will ALWAYS ride faster and use more energy and your range is never as long as you think it's going to be. For example we went from 15 miles on stock(ish) bikes to about 20 miles (sometimes less) with BAC8000 and about 12kw tunes and a much larger 53ah battery. Our range only went up about 25% but we are having 100x more fun at higher speeds.
@@ChargedCycleWorks thank you for awesome answer brother. Love your videos 💪💪💯💯
Has the ko setup been reliable? Also what is the top speed of the build??!
right after this video the longest winter in Utah history began, we haven't put a ton of hours on the bike as a result. But, so far, she's a solid build. We have raced at Glen Helen and also put a few sandy off-road hours on it since this vid. The biggest struggle is dialing in the best tune for each condition, for example at glen helen we struggled to get the right power delivery, it was too soft out of corners, and too violent in a high speed corner. Need more seattime on a track to figure out how to best tune for track.
Ultra beeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!