Interview with Bob Binnie , Honey house design. Bob has been a commercial beekeeper for over 35 years this is his ideas for things that can save time and money for anyone setting up a honey house.
That’s makes two of us Kamon. Have to say it is really exciting and the machine is being shipped from where you see it, this week. Where is goes when it arrives here is everyone’s guess!! 🤣 a bit cramped here right now lol! But it should all soon start to happen!! 🙌🐝❤️
A great Video and thanks for sharing your plans for the building and extraction line. i find it really interesting and informative. Maybe one day I will be in a position to do something similar 🎉
Thank you Aaron, it’s great to be able to share the progress. I am kind of humbled to be able to build and it’s going to be a great project. Yes costly but investment is key. Thanks for your comments. 🙌🐝
Just a heads up for you Richard based off of my own experience. I have a Paridise wax press under my Cowan uncapper. The wax press does work well but a couple points of interest, 1. You really need to be careful not to let any pieces of frames, nails or any hard material dropping into your press. It will make a mess of your grill and auger if it gets jammed in your sleeve. 2. I would make the suggestion that any honey squeezed out of your cappings to have it drained to a separate sump from your extractor. I find the honey is always cloudy and only good for making cream honey. Congratulations!
That is awesome. When you have a fixed premises and the space to accommodate it, then a single line like that makes so much sense. I've got good Lyson equipment, but as I have to move it around all the time it's easier being modular. One day though... Looking forward to the construction updates.
Hello Richard best of luck with the new setup. One thing I don’t see in any of the commercial units. are areas for washing & sterilisation of the equipment , hives etc which can be pretty messy! . How do you plan to do that?
Hi Alan extremely good and valid question basically the whole of the extraction room can be washed down and will be washed down because it will have a main drain in the middle underneath the extraction machine luckily the only place where electrics are really delicate in other words where they could get wet, is at the beginning of the machine where the frames go in so that area is kept a little bit drier but the whole machine can be washed and cleaned it has to be made so it can be washed easily just outside the extraction room there is sinks in the main area To be plumbed in and they will be not going to the septic tank they’ll be able to be just run over the ground or stored water but it’s a good question it will flow pretty well but as I said in the video I’m doing the floor plan for the drainage now and that’s quite complicated because it encompasses underfloor heating and drains all in the same area so it gets a bit chaotic anyway thanks for your question.
Excellent video! Really appreciate the way you explained the details. Your extraction machine is very impressive. I like that everything works together as one compact unit. The wax press seems to be the way to go as well. Keep up the good work!
We purchased a Paradise Honey extraction line with a 27 frame extractor and honey rocket wax processor. It fit in our two car garage honey house. Things we like: it can be run by one person, there is far less handling of frames than with the old system, frames are ready for the extractor after they go through the uncapper-pricker, the extractor is faster than our old radial 20 frame extractor, it fits in the space we have, the pieces fit together well and work together well. We don't get honey that is as clear as we got when uncapping with a hot knife. Be careful to check the nuts holding the little arms that hold the frames in the extractor as ours tend to come loose. Learning to run the new line had a steeper learning curve than we expected but we have reduced the labor and time it takes to extract honey significantly. The employees at Paradise Honey have been patient with our questions. And they speak English. We run about 70 hives in the Seattle, Washington area. Your new honey house looks great. I think you will like your new extraction line.
Hi Patricia, thanks so Much for taking the time to reply I really appreciate your comments. It’s a big journey and it’s great to have fellow beekeepers with a similar set up as mine! Hope your journey continues well. Best wishes. ‘Richard
@@richardnoel3141 We will be very interested to see your new line and how you use it. We still struggle with cleaning the equipment especially the honey rocket. We just started using it in June, 2022.
Just wondering how you are going to protect the structure in the extracting room when you may be using a pressure washer and lots of water to clean up after extraction?
Hi Chris, the machine is pretty wash proof by default and the room has a large drain that runs in a sloping conduit underneath the whole machine. The walks will be plastic laminated insulation. Basically the same as most cold rooms.
Everything is palletised, entry and exit points. Having worked in similar workshops I have some good pointers but there is always room for improvements. If you want to share your points they would be helpful?
Nice to peer into your world and seeing you advance and get everything together. I too am thinking maybe in another season or so to sort a extraction house out. I only have a fraction of the hives but spent a lot of time with a carving knife this year with a nice bumper crop. Love the big spinner but may I ask do you mix the honeys from your different apiaries? I find each of my apiaries usually produce a slightly if not totally different honey to the others and try to keep them separate. Assume on the level your at it’s easier to just mix them all up?
Hi Ryan, historically yes I did mix most of my apiaries up but it stayed as summer and spring and indeed there is variations between apiaries. However in the future I will be trying to separat my apiaries because the general public, aka my customers love individuality and a honey from there area. If we have any chance of selling regularly it has to be that extra like for the customer. Good question. Best of luck with your project!!
@@richardnoel3141 it’s one of the reasons I kept each honey separate, selling to local shops the customers want it as local as possible so to produce a honey from the same location as the shop has proved very successful but as always it’s not the selling but producing Enough is the hard part as it seemed to not take long for the restaurants etc to make contact also👍🏻
Purely on what i saw and experienced. The website is very poor. I know the machines are good but it is not reflected in the marketing. You go by what you see and your gut feeling. No real pictures of working lines, Just diagrams that mean very little to me. In this day and age they are missing out on their advertising.
Often commercial building have gaps where the corrugated roof sheets meet the external walls (the standing seams create a gap). If these aren't filled you might have problems with bees coming into the building during honey extraction in a dearth. Worth keeping in mind
Hi Michael. I’ve asked before I bought the building that all roof parts are bonded and no leaks.don’t forget in the extraction room and warming room Inside i am building another Inside skin that will divide up the rooms. Bees won’t be able to get in.
@@richardnoel3141 I’m not sure if he can really turn that many supers a day but he has crew of 4 men working the field while 4 run the extractor. Sure sounds good though. I am sure yours will be excellent for a one man show. 👌🏻
Hello Walter, the building is actually a kit building that’s going to arrive from Belgium and it’s an agricultural type building but fully insulated . So when you normally build a building you have to get an architect to draw the plans up because this is a kid building it comes with its own plans already done so there was very little to design however I did need an architect to submit the plans on my behalf to hopefully gain permission to build so because I had plans already drawn up from the building supplier it’s save me a lot of money because the architect just charge me a fee for putting all the plans together. The plans I showed you were an extra thing I bought it’s an online design studio it’s only about €6 a month and you can use it for drawing basic 2-D and 3-D plans to scale. It is a real help for me because I am pretty poor at stuff like that but as the slab is gonna be built by a builder as long as I have the drawings with the rough dimensions they can work to that what is a good question to ask because in most times, you need to pay you architect a lot of money but if you get a building that is in kit usually it comes with its own plans and that where you can make a big saving
Sirdo, 🙂 Your extraction room is a lovely mess. I'm just loving it for you. The plan looks great. I have a question, do you have a name for the building e.g. the name of my home 🏡 is known as first house? I had that fussing around with machines after receiving them, which was a pain in the neck. I'm glad to see you won't have that to worry about. Like we say in Trinidad, beat the iron while it's hot 🔥. Stay safe and healthy to do beekeeping tomorrow. Thanks for sharing 👋.
Thanks for your reply I don’t have a name for the building yet but it probably will be called La Miellerie! Which means the honey house. Regarding the equipment I hope you’re right but there will always be teething problems at the start hopefully be able to share them with you I know there’s gonna be issues with every piece of equipment you buy in most cases you can never buy yourself out of trouble unless it’s extremely expensive LOL thanks for your comments.
Looks amazing Richard, thanks for sharing. Can't wait to see this fully finished and in action. Apologies if you have already mentioned this but how much of the project was sponsored from your own savings? I think mentioned that the EU grant covers around 30%.
здравейте, да, ние правим и двете, някои в саксии, други мед в бъчви, за да продаваме някои насипно през зимата и повече в саксии. Най-добри пожелания.
Yeah 54 frame extraction line from Paradise Honey...got one of those. If you want to contact me off line, it may be worth your while.
Hi John, pm me if you like on messenger?
Interview with Bob Binnie , Honey house design. Bob has been a commercial beekeeper for over 35 years this is his ideas for things that can save time and money for anyone setting up a honey house.
Yes absolutely, I have seen the videos and taken notes of all things. Its a great source of detail indeed!!
Bob's a great beekeeper with great ideas and info but fact is he does not operate in France /EU.
Great news, your dreams are becoming reality, thanks for sharing it all with us.
Exciting stuff organisation is key haha. Super excited to see it come together mate. All the best
Thank you.
Nice to see you again.
That is an impressive unit! This machine will save you time and make extracting honey fun again! Can't wait to see it in action!
That’s makes two of us Kamon. Have to say it is really exciting and the machine is being shipped from where you see it, this week. Where is goes when it arrives here is everyone’s guess!! 🤣 a bit cramped here right now lol!
But it should all soon start to happen!!
🙌🐝❤️
Very nice extraction line. Looks like it is coming together. Exciting. Thanks for sharing.
Boys & toys 😉 It’s looking good Richard!!
A great Video and thanks for sharing your plans for the building and extraction line. i find it really interesting and informative. Maybe one day I will be in a position to do something similar 🎉
well done Richard
The extraction line looks awesome
sensational set up
Looks very exciting Richard! Good luck getting it all up and running :)
Thank you Aaron, it’s great to be able to share the progress. I am kind of humbled to be able to build and it’s going to be a great project. Yes costly but investment is key. Thanks for your comments. 🙌🐝
Exciting times! Massive investment but time is precious and whatever makes your life easier is worth it in the end.
Thats exactly it Dan. were all trying to be more efficient over time in many things we do! its the same in beekeeping!
Great video Richard, won’t be long now until it’s up and running 🙌 I want the creamer 😀
Oh cool it's like a smaller version of the Canadian beekeeper 🐝🐝
In essence, their all very similar when you go in to buying a complete extraction line.
How exciting, Richard! The building set up looks great and I cannot wait to try your creamed honey!
There will be some on its way to Hawaii I have no doubt!! ❤️ much love
woohoo! so fun to follow you.
Thanks Bub. I am super excited and it’s hopefully going to be a great journey, shared with everyone. 🙌🐝👍💪🏻
Just a heads up for you Richard based off of my own experience. I have a Paridise wax press under my Cowan uncapper. The wax press does work well but a couple points of interest, 1. You really need to be careful not to let any pieces of frames, nails or any hard material dropping into your press. It will make a mess of your grill and auger if it gets jammed in your sleeve. 2. I would make the suggestion that any honey squeezed out of your cappings to have it drained to a separate sump from your extractor. I find the honey is always cloudy and only good for making cream honey. Congratulations!
Looking awesome & great to see it coming together. Very envious!
Thanks Jim, Lets see it coming together before we get too excited but its very difficult not to get excited about lots of shiny stainless steel!!
That's great Richard, really happy for you! Looks like it's all coming together.
really enjoyed this video!! Exiting plans!!!
Thanks so much. I am just as much looking forward to the thing going up!! It’s all pretty nerve wracking but I am sure it will all be ok in the end.
@@richardnoel3141 it will be the best thing you do!! 😊👍🏻👍🏻
Topman Richard, I am looking forward to seeing the finished building with your extraction line running.
They makes two of us lol
That is awesome. When you have a fixed premises and the space to accommodate it, then a single line like that makes so much sense. I've got good Lyson equipment, but as I have to move it around all the time it's easier being modular. One day though... Looking forward to the construction updates.
Huge fan and I watch all your videos, but don't fret about not uploading. I just appreciate the occasional update.
Looking good Noel. Glad it's coming together for you.
Hello Richard best of luck with the new setup. One thing I don’t see in any of the commercial units. are areas for washing & sterilisation of the equipment , hives etc which can be pretty messy! . How do you plan to do that?
Hi Alan extremely good and valid question basically the whole of the extraction room can be washed down and will be washed down because it will have a main drain in the middle underneath the extraction machine luckily the only place where electrics are really delicate in other words where they could get wet, is at the beginning of the machine where the frames go in so that area is kept a little bit drier but the whole machine can be washed and cleaned it has to be made so it can be washed easily just outside the extraction room there is sinks in the main area To be plumbed in and they will be not going to the septic tank they’ll be able to be just run over the ground or stored water but it’s a good question it will flow pretty well but as I said in the video I’m doing the floor plan for the drainage now and that’s quite complicated because it encompasses underfloor heating and drains all in the same area so it gets a bit chaotic anyway thanks for your question.
Excellent video! Really appreciate the way you explained the details. Your extraction machine is very impressive. I like that everything works together as one compact unit. The wax press seems to be the way to go as well. Keep up the good work!
very very nice!! 👌👌
Hello, looks like a powerful and efficient machine. Yet, have you considered as an option buying from a polish company lyson?
Great job explaining Richard congratulations to you. Plans look good and I’m happy to follow you. Looking forward to seeing more till then stay safe
We purchased a Paradise Honey extraction line with a 27 frame extractor and honey rocket wax processor. It fit in our two car garage honey house. Things we like: it can be run by one person, there is far less handling of frames than with the old system, frames are ready for the extractor after they go through the uncapper-pricker, the extractor is faster than our old radial 20 frame extractor, it fits in the space we have, the pieces fit together well and work together well. We don't get honey that is as clear as we got when uncapping with a hot knife. Be careful to check the nuts holding the little arms that hold the frames in the extractor as ours tend to come loose. Learning to run the new line had a steeper learning curve than we expected but we have reduced the labor and time it takes to extract honey significantly. The employees at Paradise Honey have been patient with our questions. And they speak English.
We run about 70 hives in the Seattle, Washington area.
Your new honey house looks great. I think you will like your new extraction line.
Hi Patricia, thanks so
Much for taking the time to reply I really appreciate your comments. It’s a big journey and it’s great to have fellow beekeepers with a similar set up as mine!
Hope your journey continues well. Best wishes. ‘Richard
@@richardnoel3141 We will be very interested to see your new line and how you use it. We still struggle with cleaning the equipment especially the honey rocket. We just started using it in June, 2022.
Big moves Richard, I know it’s stressful. Good luck with the honey house!
Thanks Nathan, appreciate your experience and your very excellent videos on this exact subject. I will have questions for you in January!! 💪🏻🙌🐝🐝🐝
Still bringing in my honey so I way behind you.
Mine isn’t all in yet!! 😩
Great information, I’m looking forward to the other videos.
Just wondering how you are going to protect the structure in the extracting room when you may be using a pressure washer and lots of water to clean up after extraction?
Hi Chris, the machine is pretty wash proof by default and the room has a large drain that runs in a sloping conduit underneath the whole machine. The walks will be plastic laminated insulation. Basically the same as most cold rooms.
@@richardnoel3141 Thanks Richard, great to see your business expanding.
Congratulations with your new machinery, but I’ve doubt s about the ergonomics off work flow in the architecture off the building
Everything is palletised, entry and exit points. Having worked in similar workshops I have some good pointers but there is always room for improvements. If you want to share your points they would be helpful?
Nice to peer into your world and seeing you advance and get everything together. I too am thinking maybe in another season or so to sort a extraction house out. I only have a fraction of the hives but spent a lot of time with a carving knife this year with a nice bumper crop. Love the big spinner but may I ask do you mix the honeys from your different apiaries? I find each of my apiaries usually produce a slightly if not totally different honey to the others and try to keep them separate. Assume on the level your at it’s easier to just mix them all up?
Hi Ryan, historically yes I did mix most of my apiaries up but it stayed as summer and spring and indeed there is variations between apiaries. However in the future I will be trying to separat my apiaries because the general public, aka my customers love individuality and a honey from there area. If we have any chance of selling regularly it has to be that extra like for the customer. Good question. Best of luck with your project!!
@@richardnoel3141 it’s one of the reasons I kept each honey separate, selling to local shops the customers want it as local as possible so to produce a honey from the same location as the shop has proved very successful but as always it’s not the selling but producing Enough is the hard part as it seemed to not take long for the restaurants etc to make contact also👍🏻
@@Downthend totally with you!! Local is best!!
Nice! No cooling storage room?
Such a nice machine :) Hope to get something similar one day. The 30 frame Lyson I got this summer is a step in that direction :D
wondering what was the reason not to ge with WET?
Purely on what i saw and experienced. The website is very poor. I know the machines are good but it is not reflected in the marketing. You go by what you see and your gut feeling. No real pictures of working lines, Just diagrams that mean very little to me. In this day and age they are missing out on their advertising.
Did you win the lottery!
Often commercial building have gaps where the corrugated roof sheets meet the external walls (the standing seams create a gap). If these aren't filled you might have problems with bees coming into the building during honey extraction in a dearth. Worth keeping in mind
Hi Michael. I’ve asked before I bought the building that all roof parts are bonded and no leaks.don’t forget in the extraction room and warming room Inside i am building another Inside skin that will divide up the rooms. Bees won’t be able to get in.
Super nice 👍🏻
I have a friend that has a Cowen 60. He runs 800 supers a day through it 4 men running it. Do accept the challenge??? 😋
i wont ever be running that amount of honey and frames, but......... lol thanks for your comments!!
@@richardnoel3141 I’m not sure if he can really turn that many supers a day but he has crew of 4 men working the field while 4 run the extractor. Sure sounds good though. I am sure yours will be excellent for a one man show. 👌🏻
Is there a program you used in order to draw up the plans for the building ? Or was that the builder who did that?
Hello Walter, the building is actually a kit building that’s going to arrive from Belgium and it’s an agricultural type building but fully insulated . So when you normally build a building you have to get an architect to draw the plans up because this is a kid building it comes with its own plans already done so there was very little to design however I did need an architect to submit the plans on my behalf to hopefully gain permission to build so because I had plans already drawn up from the building supplier it’s save me a lot of money because the architect just charge me a fee for putting all the plans together. The plans I showed you were an extra thing I bought it’s an online design studio it’s only about €6 a month and you can use it for drawing basic 2-D and 3-D plans to scale. It is a real help for me because I am pretty poor at stuff like that but as the slab is gonna be built by a builder as long as I have the drawings with the rough dimensions they can work to that what is a good question to ask because in most times, you need to pay you architect a lot of money but if you get a building that is in kit usually it comes with its own plans and that where you can make a big saving
Sirdo, 🙂 Your extraction room is a lovely mess. I'm just loving it for you.
The plan looks great. I have a question, do you have a name for the building e.g. the name of my home 🏡 is known as first house?
I had that fussing around with machines after receiving them, which was a pain in the neck. I'm glad to see you won't have that to worry about.
Like we say in Trinidad, beat the iron while it's hot 🔥. Stay safe and healthy to do beekeeping tomorrow. Thanks for sharing 👋.
Thanks for your reply I don’t have a name for the building yet but it probably will be called
La Miellerie! Which means the honey house.
Regarding the equipment I hope you’re right but there will always be teething problems at the start hopefully be able to share them with you I know there’s gonna be issues with every piece of equipment you buy in most cases you can never buy yourself out of trouble unless it’s extremely expensive LOL thanks for your comments.
Looks amazing Richard, thanks for sharing. Can't wait to see this fully finished and in action. Apologies if you have already mentioned this but how much of the project was sponsored from your own savings? I think mentioned that the EU grant covers around 30%.
EU grant ok the building and slab, about 35% of those two things only.
Carl Fritz sells the best extractors in the world!,
Quite a sexy machine
Ya, the first time through, you find the frames that don’t work lol
Thanks Ian. So
Many choices out there when you really start looking hard. I think your right!! Uniformity is key.
Защо наливате меда в бидони? На едро ли продавате или на дребно?
здравейте, да, ние правим и двете, някои в саксии, други мед в бъчви, за да продаваме някои насипно през зимата и повече в саксии. Най-добри пожелания.
@@richardnoel3141 Thank you. 🍯🐝
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