There is a theory that he wanted to come back, but his rich and powerful friends realised what a disaster this would be and they duly dispatched him at that point. He was a loose cannon and a complete liability who would probably land them all in it. Fraud, assisting an offender, covering up for the brutal murder of a young woman... and that's how he wants to repay them for bailing him out? No, that wouldn't do.
As soon as I heard the narrators voice I switched to the comments , Lord Lucan , didn`t he sail off on the Mary Celeste with Jack the Ripper that went down when it collided with the Titanic ,or maybe I was thinking of the Lock ness monster .
I was living in Sutherland Street SW1 in November of 1974 ,less than a mile from Elizabeth Street, I was 18 and just started work at John Lewis on Oxford Street.
That was my question, after all he was a very tall man 6' 7" by all accounts, it would be difficult to hide a corpse of that size, unless he was dismembered.
It should be remembered, Susie (Susan Maxwell Scott) was in absolute love with ‘John.’ She was a qualified Barrister who had been called to the Bar, but had never ever practised and she never had any financial need to earn a living. Detectives Gerring (especially) and Ranson thought her response to their questions, were ludicrous, especially for a Barrister. What she said simply did not make any sense. She supported ‘John’ to her final end.
@@gertyrood Of course he didn't do it, he didn't possess the bottle to murder someone. Easier for him to get some cash together and pay someone. Unfortunately the hitman was a complete incompetent person. If Lucan was planning murder, does anyone really believe, he would use a flimsy length of lead piping? Any UK resident will recall, during the seventies, many many homes were having their old lead pipes replaced with new copper ones. This is a clue in itself as to the type of hitman that was employed by Lucan.
@@gertyrood The police as is very well documented, during the seventies, made many mistakes with criminal cases just to pursue a conviction. Some were just reckless and some were genuine mistakes. It was far too easy for Detectives Gerring and Ranson to pursue Lucan, just because he disappeared. Lucan had to make a split second decision. He knew if he stayed on Veronicas word, he would be convicted and sent to Custody, whether he was guilty or not that was irrelevant. You can see how at the inquest in June 1975 to the death of Mrs Sandra Rivett, how the Coroner believed and ACCEPTED everything Veronica said in court.
Viewers of this Channel, especially if living outside of the UK, need to understand, that everything concerning Lucans life, happened, literally within ONE SQUARE MILE. Born, Married, family home, his daily gambling at the Clermont Club, and the place the house he died in. Crazy to think how the search has gone all around the world for the past fifty years. the truth as in these types of cases, are USUALLY far closer to home, and not so exciting.
I truly hope now, (but I don’t believe so) that Neil Berriman, will stop torturing himself, and stop this pure notion and wishful thinking, that the man currently living in Brisbane, Australia who he believes is Lord Lucan, is NOT Lord Lucan.
The BBC recent gave ONE MILLION POUNDS to Five Mile Films Ltd to make this complete load of rubbish. They flew Neil to Brisbane to confront this person who Neil STILL believes is Lord Lucan. They really messed with his head, despite the FACT the Metropolitan Police determined months ago, the man is NOT lord Lucan.
I didn't even bother to watch it Toby. The producer came and had lengthy talks with me, during her research. To make a brief programme, which did not cause further mental harm, to Neil Berriman may have been more acceptable. But to have made three hours TV out of the rubbish, and fly Neil to Australia is unbelievable. Once again the judgment of the BBC who funded this to the tune of a million pounds, must be questioned. What do you think?
The Aussie "Lord Lucan" doesn't even look like him. One of the real Lucan's friends actually burst out laughing when he saw the photo. I suspect that other man is a likely a conman and has a dodgy past of his own. I suspect he's not whom he claims to be, but he isn't Lucan either.
I see your point but intending to kill his wife would be what in America is called first degree murder. Killing the nanny because he mistook her for his wife would be second degree murder. No matter where in the world you are that’s murder, the deliberate killing of another person. It’s not accidental death.
@@johnhall42 This is the UK: there's no such thing as degrees of murder. And you said "accidental murder", not "accidental death": don't move the goalposts.
@@beeble2003 I know there is no such thing as second degree murder in Britain, which is why in Britain, this kind of killing is straightforward murder. You can kill the wrong person by mistake but there is no such thing as accidental murder.
@@malcolmwarrilow because he was guilty of conspiracy to murder and was facing a certain conviction and going to custody. All teh ODDS were stacked heavily against him, and he wasn’t stupid he realised that was the position.
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Lucan was involved with the Clermont Cub/Set and such a level of involvement meant that he would be privy/get wind of all nature of information - including sensitive information in more ways than one. The Clermont Club was an exclusive meeting ground a coming together of people of diverse but influential backgrounds. The then famous Pop Star manager, Eve Taylor ( the then 'Queen Bee' of showbusiness) was a member. Taylor was highly alert/sharp and perceptive and receptive to absorbing the networks of information.
In 1982 I got a black taxi outside the Dorchester hotel . I started talking to the driver and the subject had got onto the police largely as a result of an incident I had witnessed on a workplace incident. The driver then almost angrily banged on about the police, how he didn't like them and stated how he could have helped them but didn't. When I pushed him on this he opened up and told me about how he had picked up someone one night in Mayfair in 1974 who was wanted by the police. He had picked this well known socialite up as a fare and drove him to another destination. It was only after that I realised who this could be. Now of course this could all be fantasy by the driver, normally these sort of people go on in more detail or come up with some other spurious story, there was something about the story and driver that made an impression on me. Ever since this incident I have wondered about this story.
Would add the above is totally true. He did volunteer some other information that was a little sketchy including taking this man to a ferry port, but I may have heard that wrong. He volunteered his thoughts that he believed he leapt to his death from the ferry. I do not believe Lucan is alive, how he met his death and when is always likely to be a mystery and subject to speculation. He is dead of that I am certain.
My sister was a Nanny to Lord Lucan's cousin just before all this happened, my sister's take on this was he went to Argentina where he had very wealthy and large land-owning relations.
A large community of British people in Argentina, and Lord Lucan seventh earl of Lucan was very tall, and would have stood out a mile. Also teh newspapers in the seventies and eighties, were offering very big money for an exclusive if someone actually found Lucan. Of course they never did, because that was impossible.
This is narrated in a somewhat confusing fashion. For example, Lucan drives to his club, gives the doorman the time of day, then apparently drives straight home with no intervening dinner, friends or alibi (4:00). The safe (whatever that is) is awash with the nanny's blood (4:37), but how do we know, because he finds his wife bleeding (5:10)? There are confusing aspects of the story itself (Lucan has three houses, the nanny is mistaken for the wife, although he has custody of the children, the nanny is at his wife's house) so it needs telling very clearly.
@@Pea_Green George (now Lord Lucan) decided that it would be better for him and his two sisters, to live with their aunt T and uncle Christina and Bill Shand Kydd, but this came after Lord Lucan disappeared.
The recent BBC Lucan documentary followed the modern trend of treating true crime like a piece of fiction.They prioritise cheap drama over truth.As it progressed,it became more and more farcical culminating with the unveiling of the man believed to be Lucan.One look told you it wasn’t him.All those behind the scenes,and some of those on camera,knew this yet cruelly exploited Neil Berrimam for views.
I had already told the Producer I believed Lucan to be dead. The Producer took possession of all my email correspondence from Lady Lucan. We had emailed each other for eleven years. She clearly informed me “He can’t come back, because he is dead.” Neil Berriman has publicly stated that he was also in contact with Lady Lucan. Of course Neil would have asked the same question of Veronica, who would have replied in the same way as she did to me. It was only in the few years after this murder, when she was asked by Thames News, what she thought had happened to her husband, that she replied that he would have started a new life for himself. However at that time she was still on medication.
@@TheLordLucanCase Bless her heart but Lady Lucan told too many conflicting stories as to what she thought happened to him after the murder. I’ve always thought that perhaps it was part of her support arrangement that she could never reveal all she knew. It was reported that she died with a fairly sizable amount of money. If this is true, where did all that money come from? She had no career, didn’t work, and was somewhat reclusive for many years. I believe she knew more than she ever told. Seems to me he lived on for some years. His estate was not probated until 1999 and he wasn’t officially declared dead until 2016 after which his title was passed on to George. I think it’s safe to assume he probably died sometime just prior to probate back in the late 1990’s.
@@ninnin261 Yes correct always part of her support arrangement, otherwise it was unlikely that she would have remained living in Belgravia. Thank you for commenting.
Absolutely. Next up on this channel. Flight MH370 and how it actually landed near Basingstoke three years later painted black, with the registration number G-SHERGAR.
Indeed. A complete nonsense story. Lucan DID murder the nanny, then fled, bought a ticket and boarded a ferry; which has been proven without doubt as there are several witnesses. So either you believe he made it to France (in which case he had to smuggle himself off board because the French police was waiting for him) or, realizing he would be caught and unable to face the consequences, this spoiled and spineless (and financially broke!) man jumped overboard during the crossing, thus committing suicide. My money is on the latter scenario.
This is all so far-fetched. Who was this 'hitman' and why would Lucan be so stupid as to go to the home at the time his wife is being murdered? I don't think Lucan was the sharpest tool but he should have been as far from that scene as possible if someone else was doing the deed. His wife was adamant that it was him and nobody else. The nanny was killed (yes, mistaken for the wife in the dark) and Veronica was attacked, and you think that she stopped to think clearly and cleverly that she could 'use' this to get permanent custody of the children? I find this whole scenario rather delusional. I have no doubt that his friends helped him but a suicide in this case would be neither 'honourable' nor 'falling on his sword'. It would be his inability to face what he had done. Wherever he went and however he died, he was a murderer - not an accidental murderer. It sounds throughout that you admire him. I find that most shocking of all.
When you had very high connections like Lucan had, the options for suicide would be very low down the scale compared to other choices. Everything in his makeup suggest a man with little honour and integrity, who wasn't the type to kill himself. The highest likelihood is he fled to another country (somewhere in Africa) and assumed a false identity.
He had a gambling habit along with a love of booze, so if he lived abroad somewhere he would not be able to stay out of those places where he could gamble and drink, and would have been spotted by someone. Plus who would have supplied him with money all that time?
@@janetpendlebury6808 His brother Hugh Bingham stated that Lord Lucan was innocent of murder and escaped to Africa to start a new life; as there was no chance of a fair trial. Personally I believe him more far more than anyone else on this matter. Why should he lie?
The final answer to this conundrum, if there ever can be one, will be based on the holistic study of all of the available evidence, an assessment of its truthfulness, an analysis of the entirety of the findings, an objective weighing of what may have possibly occurred, and finally a careful judging of which was the most probable chain of events. As always, what people may speculate is of little or no value, and the most convincing answer will rely upon what can actually be proved. With the passage of time and the amount of misinformation which surrounds this iconic Case, it is most likely that unless further Real Evidence comes to light, we will never know beyond a Reasonable Doubt what actually happened to John Bingham, 7th Earl of Lucan after the brutal killing of Sandra Rivett on 7th November 1974.
@@anneshrubsole406And undoubtedly a joke at Coutts bank. .... I have logged in to online training delivered internally by my employer, using the name of a notorious criminal. It was a joke, it doesn't not mean I am that notorious criminal.
first i've ever heard of a hitman theory. surely if you hire a hitman you go somewhere else to establish an alibi, you don't go near the scene of the crime.
Lots of theories, alleged sightings, and Hitmen. Mysterious phone calls 📞. Driving his car to Newhaven and catching the ferry. Friends with planes and mystery flights. ✈️. But somebody did know.
The best friend of lord Lucan was john Aspinal who owned port lympne zoo in kent jimmy shave was his right hand man i believe theses 2guys was something to do with his helping in his disappearance
@elizabethpal I believe John Aspinal and the others in his group helped him. I don’t think he jumped off the ferry nor do I believe he killed himself in his house that night
@suemount6042 I was told a few years back by the son of jimmy shave the rhinos keeper live at port lympe zoo was right hand man to john Aspinall shave drove lord lucan to the Manson airport to get flight africa
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He was shot and pushed over the side of s boat half across the channell. The people who helped realised they were facing serious jail if he was caught.
Veronica said, after his death was formalised, Bingham likely went under a cross-channel ferry. I’m inclined to agree with her. Whether he was “helped” over the handrail is another matter, but I think his intention was to die that night.
A complete nonsense story. Lucan DID murder the nanny, then fled, bought a ticket and boarded a ferry; which has been proven without doubt as there are several witnesses. So either you believe he made it to France (in which case he had to smuggle himself off board because the French police was waiting for him) or, realizing he would be caught and unable to face the consequences, this spoiled and spineless (and financially broke!) man jumped overboard during the crossing, thus committing suicide. My money is on the latter scenario.
So where did Lucan park the Corsair? Did he get a spot right outside no 46? As he would have needed. Yet its assumed he walked on foot to Chester Square - would he have risked walking back to get it? Maybe shows he had help (Benson/Aspinall?) before Uckfield. Lucan left no 46 at about 09.50pm yet didn't ring mother til 10.30pm. Had to have called on a friend.
There are only two possibilities to where his body went. either in the Sea as suggested by Aspinall or he was fed to the Tigers. Strange really, that when the Police asked Aspinall's Mother if she knew where Lord Lucan was, she replied, last she heard he was being fed to her Sons Tigers. Although Aspinall later commented (apparently) that his Tigers had better taste.
Yes I had read what Aspinal and his Mother had said, however, that does seem a risky way to dispose of a body, due to the fact that a tiger, particularly a captive one such as Aspinals who have a regular source of food, would eat the flesh but would not necessarily be too concerned with consuming the bones or teeth, which would potentially leave evidence behind.
@@williamfogarty4001 Most likely at the bottom of the English Channel as Aspinall has previously stated, and Aspinall stated Lucan committed suicide, the aspect which does not appear to be truthful, is that Lucan ‘scuttled a boat.’
How did whisking Lord Lucan away avoid scandal? There was a scandal. Almost everyone thinks he was a murderer. People think Andrew is guilty. You don't have to be behind bars for there to be a scandal.
Very strange that extracts of the Diary, written by Lord Lucans friend on the morning of Friday 8th November 1974, were bizarrely all removed from my home. Lost for ever!
NEITHER. All seven box files my research material on the Lord Lucan case, were removed from my home on the 4th July 2008 by an animal licensing officer. the full story is in the links. Her actions were TOTALLY ILLEGAL.
ZIs it just a theory that Lucan made the phone calls from a friend's house in Ebury St? Who claimed to overhear him? I believe Lucan did visit SMS at Uckfield- the decoy scenario is too clever for them
Your version of events could easily describe the actions of Lady Lucan to gain control of the estate as well as custody of the children. The scenario in the house proposed here could have been the plan of Lady Lucan. The prescence of the nanny was as a result of a so called change of plan of his wife. The events in the basement were equally of script as the Lady would normally cover this chore. Any injury to the Lady could have occurred when the nanny has defended herself. Two events of planets aligning and no alternative narrative has been considered. The outcome of the custody hearing and how he was perceived post hearing could be the very reason he fled fearing prejudice. There is no counter version of events given by Lord Lucan. There is only a one sided story that has never been defended.
It is a great shame indeed, that Lord Lucan never felt able to face up to the situation and put his side forward. Lucan was always guilty of ‘conspiracy to murder’ but not murder. His sister Lady Sarah Gibbs came the closest to explaining matters.
If I heard correctly, his driving licence and passport were found at his address, so doubt he would have been able to get on the ferry without either. Would he have been able to buy a ticket at the ferry terminal in the early hours? Of course, if he had used false ID, then you're talking about a lot of pre-planning, well ahead of the night of the murder, that at least some of his friends would most likely be aware, would they not have tried to stop him? Having grown up in Uckfield and being fully aware it was the last official sighting, then his car being found in Newhaven, another town I've known well most of my life, there isn't just the ferry, there is a fishing fleet and marina, so plenty of smaller boats he could have got onto either a fishing boat or yacht much easier, (regularly fishing Newhaven harbour and Seaford Beach, I see both arriving and departing at all times,) whereas the ferry is only 2 departures a day. If he did leave Newhaven on a fishing boat or yacht, then reading other comments on here, he could have ended up overboard, either by his own means, or aided and easier to get away without calling man overboard, whereas if he had got the ferry, I would have thought they'd have counted foot passengers on and off, so more likely a search would have been called once docked in Dieppe. Of course, a small boat, could easily berth into another port/harbour along the Sussex or Kent coast, possibly under the guise of technical issues and then he disembarking to a friend who has come to pick him up, with no one the wiser. Whether he was returned to London, he made it abroad, or some misadventure happened to him I have no idea.
You do not need to have driving licence to get on ferry in 1974 if you were a foot passenger. Back in those days checks were limited and often there was no one in attendance. I got a night ferry as a 16 year old schoolboy to Zeebrugge, absolutely no checks were done on who I was and what I was doing I didn't even have a passport, we bought the tickets cash, there were very few credit cards at that time it was easy to travel.. So in conclusion Lucan could have got on the ferry as a foot passenger. I believe it was on the ferry and he jumped off. There would be little in the way of head count and no surveillance cameras to record these sort of actions. Different lax times.
@@terencebates6808 Appreciate different times, but one would expect at least some witnesses on the Newhaven ferry if he got on it, which is why getting onto either a fishing boat of yacht is still a probability, especially as easier to walk down to the marina from Norman Road, than crossing the swing bridge to get onto the ferry. Then the car in Newhaven, could well be a red herring, taken there by the Maxwell-Scotts, or an employee and he never went any further south than Uckfield. Of course, everything other than known facts, is purely speculation and makes for interesting theories.
@@asp383 it could be he wasn't on the Newhaven ferry but took a different one. As I say I went on a night ferry as a passenger in the very early hours, hardly a soul on the boat certainly no one as a foot passenger other than me and my mate. We were both still at school, no one questioned anything , we didn't even have passports just a simple ID travel pass. On the boat , were lorry drivers and a few cars.
@@terencebates6808 Depending on cargo ships sailing at the time it would have been quite a tight timeline between leaving the car and the ship sailing, which I doubt this would have been an option, as it seemed his coming to Uckfield, was a reaction to the murder/attempted murder. This is why I would be more convinced (if he was in Newhaven), he took a fishing boat, or yacht, although again, the former may not have left much time to organise before the car was discovered. He raced power boats, so not inconceivable to say he could sail a yacht, which could allow for a safer escape from Newhaven, either into another South Coast harbour/marina, or even further afield, if it was stocked well. While it could be possible to go by train from Newhaven, to Ashford, to Dover or Newhaven to Portsmouth, I think this would have been too risky at being recognised the longer he was in public areas, as no doubt by the time the car was discovered, police forces had all the information, so again, depending on sailing times of cargo ships or ferry, there may have been time for police to do the obvious checks. I'm not aware of any apps that will tell you the high tide times in history, but suspect cargo ships and the ferry have always sailed around high tide. I'm not disputing your account of travelling on a ferry around the same time and there would most likely have been much less travellers at night, however, I'm still thinking, although going to Uckfield most likely wasn't planned, he clearly spent some time there, as even in 1974, before the Uckfield Bypass, Caulfail tunnel and Lewes bypass were been built, it still wouldn't have taken any more than 30 minutes max from Uckfield to where the car was parked, so he obviously had time to regroup, write 2 letters and post them (although as I understand it, the envelopes were discarded, so postmarks are unknown), plus we don't know if he, the Maxwell-Scotts or their employees posted them. It could also have provided ample time to arrange his next move(s). It is quite possible the Maxwell-Scotts were more involved with what happened next, than they admitted to and may have made some calls, not necessarily from their home, but there were plenty of phone boxes around Uckfield, some fairly secluded. Again, just speculation, but has been quite interesting reading through the comments for other people's thoughts on what happened in the timeline, from Uckfield.
The nanny wasn't killed by a hitman, she was killed by Lucan, he couldn't have seen anyone struggling in the basement as the light bulb had been removed, it was pitch black, lady lucan recognised Lucan, they went up to the bedroom.he went to wet a cloth and she escaped. There was no other man in the house. He asked the kids which night Sandra wasn't in, but she had changed the night so he killed the nanny by mistake.
Lucan was obviously familiar with the nanny, he would have known by her size,shape, smell or whatever even in the shadows that it was not his wife, also his wife probably rarely ( if ever)went near the basement kitchen.
@Comfortzone99 According to the oldest daughter Lady Lucan did go to the basement kitchen routinely on the nanny's night off to make tea (this was the only kitchen in the house). The nanny changed her night off to the following night and volunteered to make tea on this night that was normally her night off. Lord Lucan or a hitman (IMO, it was Lord Lucan) mistook the nanny for his wife when she came to the kitchen to make tea. Lord Lucan removed the lightbulb in the basement kitchen and waited for Lady Lucan to come downstairs to make a cup of tea . It was dark and Lord Lucan was probably very nervous since he was there to murder his wife and mistakenly killed the nanny. He then put her body in a US mailbag. When Lady Lucan came downstairs to check on the the nanny, he tried to kill her and beat her very badly on her head.
I just love the comments on videos like this even better than the video itself. If anyone knows the truth behind this tale they are keeping it to themselves but some people that comment insist they have the answer's even though they couldn't possibly know. That or simply criticising others and not presenting another answer. This is common on RUclips and I don't criticise them after all everyone has a right to opinion, but I do find it very very amusing. 😅🤣😂
Lucan intended to kill his wife, but killed the nanny instead. This was not accidental. It was transferred intent. He made a mistake when he killed the nanny, but the intent to kill was still evident.
Nah mate. I have spoken to a former DCI from the Belgravia nick. He was smuggled out of the country. There were several false trails left. The painter Dominic Elwes was compelled to commit suicide for an inappropriate painting. It was made clear to him his career was over and he had a big mouth. Jimmys chauffeur, drove round to Elwes Mews house with a bottle of pills and an ultimatum. Lucan was flown out to Crete and onwards from there.
In your initial disclaimer you said the ' accidental murder' Well there's no such thing, it's either murder ( intentional) or manslaughter /accidental killing etc but you can't have an accidental murder
@davidmellish3295 The wrong woman was killed by mistake i.e. an unintentional victim. Not murdered by accident but still an accidental/incorrect murder.
"Sarsfield is the word and Sarsfield is the man." Not such a non sequitur as you light think if you know something about the original Tiarna Leamhcáin.
Lucan did not die in London he was killed sort of next door to me around 2am when they failed to get him out of Lymphe Airport because Graham Hill never showed up to fly him out dont look for him there is nothing to find but you should look into Greville Veronica was covering up for him
As for me imo, MI5 took him out, they were not going to let a peer of the realm go to trial for murder. They decided to make him disappear, end of the story, finished.
It always makes for a far better news paper ‘filler’ to carry on such a saga. They have done well to fill their papers with this absolute rubbish for the past fifty years! Did you watch the link in the Description for this latest video, in which Lucan’s son states that he doesn’t think his father got out of London. I knew George. George uses the term ‘intuition’ note I use the same phrase ‘intuition.’ 🙂
@@Paul1510WB Surely not an easy mistake, given the difference in height between Mrs Rivett and his wife... the killer saw enough to strike the victim on the head. Had it been Lord Lucan, he'd have known it was not his wife as she was short and barely reached his shoulder.
@@Jubilee33382 He expected the women he saw, in the dark, to be his wife, he was hiding and struck out at her - he was not a professional and had probably bolstered himself up with alcohol beforehand. Sandra Rivett was only 5' 2"
Reading through the comments it's clear that people are forgetting the year and that the lines of communication were nothing like they are today. Lightning reflexes must have been employed somewhere if all the escape palaver is to be credited as true. I have no idea whether old Lucky is alive or dead, in Africa or at the bottom of the Channel but it's always been an interesting story to revisit and ponder. Ah, will we ever know . . ?
Not exactly sure where you are referring to, but most likely because in his attempt to gain custody of the three children, he was doing and saying all sorts of things. This included bugging phone conversations.
No he didn't! My Dad saw him after that near Midurst in Surrey. He stepped out of the hedge into the road, Dad had to drive around him! Turns out that Dad had an almost identical Aston Martin DBS to Lucan's best mate! Now join the dots!
A complete nonsense story. Lucan DID murder the nanny, then fled, bought a ticket and boarded a ferry; which has been proven without doubt as there are several witnesses. So either you believe he made it to France (in which case he had to smuggle himself off board because the French police was waiting for him) or, realizing he would be caught and unable to face the consequences, this spoiled and spineless (and financially broke!) man jumped overboard during the crossing, thus committing suicide. My money is on the latter scenario.
If you are referring to the man who is living in Brisbane, then the Metropolitan Police concluded, months ago, that poor hounded man, is not Lord Lucan.
Of course he was NEVER in Australia. Spot on. If viewers take the time to watch the links in the description to this video, there is one where his son George Bingham, now Lord Lucan eight Earl of Lucan, stated that it was his ‘intuition’ interesting terminology, that his father never ‘got out of London.’
@@michaelbuckley8986 If he managed to get to FRance or Spain and hide out for a few years while he fatteened up and grew a bit hippy he'd be unrecognisable.
@@janetpendlebury6808 No, but then leaving his London life behind would be a shock. Hard to know the truth in some cases. I was under impression 50 years ago that the wife had claimed it was Lucan who killed the maid...
The only innocent victims was Sandra and her family. His friends didn't give her a thought. What was honourable about suicide, his family also did not consider her a victim, only poor John the weak man, with no moral compass. The author of his own downfall.
I saw him in tescos just the other day .. heavens above .. he bought a packet of monster munch .. and a curly wurly .. then jumped in his car outside .. put two fingers up and screeched the car and done one !! I’m in disbelief 😩😩🤣🤣🤣
Seems about as far fetched as all the other theories. Had he slipped in blood, then it would be all over his shoes and he would have left foot prints. The "friend" would surely notice as "with seconds to react" he wouldn't have time to change his shoes?
In 1974 my two brothers were in Newhaven fort it was empty we saw the police chasing a man in a black coat I don't know if it's was lord Lucan or a tramp
rubbish... i had come across a view that a hopeful filmstar was the hired hand it is said they was in london odd-jobbing and this hit was a leg up the holywood ladder,considering their inability to act that,maybe a modicum of understanding his rise to fame... i point out this is hear-saying a hearsayer on ytube... so who knows? someone 4sure.
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I still believe he was smuggled out of the country by his rich and powerful friends and given a new identity.
Absolutely
There is a theory that he wanted to come back, but his rich and powerful friends realised what a disaster this would be and they duly dispatched him at that point.
He was a loose cannon and a complete liability who would probably land them all in it. Fraud, assisting an offender, covering up for the brutal murder of a young woman... and that's how he wants to repay them for bailing him out? No, that wouldn't do.
The family owned farms in BOTSWANA.
He was reportedly seen there often.
He probably died there.
@@halfbakedproductions7887 Yes, that "theory" is called the plot of a lot of bad TV shows and films.
Yes! the Aristocracy stick together.....Then as now...
Click bait - nothing to see here and not one atom of evidence for the final conclusion. A waste of time.
I'm only 4 minutes in and you've just confirmed what I was thinking Thanks
As soon as I heard the narrators voice I switched to the comments , Lord Lucan , didn`t he sail off on the Mary Celeste with Jack the Ripper that went down when it collided with the Titanic ,or maybe I was thinking of the Lock ness monster .
I was living in Sutherland Street SW1 in November of 1974 ,less than a mile from Elizabeth Street, I was 18 and just started work at John Lewis on Oxford Street.
So, after Lucan killed himself as you claim ...in the remote wilderness of London, exactly _what_ happened to his corpse?
Did it evaporate?
Eaten by wild animals . 🐊
That was my question, after all he was a very tall man 6' 7" by all accounts, it would be difficult to hide a corpse of that size, unless he was dismembered.
@@Woodman-Spare-that-tree in a zoo
@@jeannemillsom9300 He was not that tall, reports are from 6' 1" to 6' 4" .
Rumour is that it was fed to his friends tiger
It should be remembered, Susie (Susan Maxwell Scott) was in absolute love with ‘John.’ She was a qualified Barrister who had been called to the Bar, but had never ever practised and she never had any financial need to earn a living. Detectives Gerring (especially) and Ranson thought her response to their questions, were ludicrous, especially for a Barrister. What she said simply did not make any sense. She supported ‘John’ to her final end.
Tigers had a good lunch next day
No doubt to me she came up with the ''attempted murder'' line for Lucan. If he didn't know Sandra was dead how could he be the the killer?
I don't think he did it
@@gertyrood Of course he didn't do it, he didn't possess the bottle to murder someone. Easier for him to get some cash together and pay someone. Unfortunately the hitman was a complete incompetent person. If Lucan was planning murder, does anyone really believe, he would use a flimsy length of lead piping?
Any UK resident will recall, during the seventies, many many homes were having their old lead pipes replaced with new copper ones. This is a clue in itself as to the type of hitman that was employed by Lucan.
@@gertyrood The police as is very well documented, during the seventies, made many mistakes with criminal cases just to pursue a conviction. Some were just reckless and some were genuine mistakes.
It was far too easy for Detectives Gerring and Ranson to pursue Lucan, just because he disappeared. Lucan had to make a split second decision. He knew if he stayed on Veronicas word, he would be convicted and sent to Custody, whether he was guilty or not that was irrelevant.
You can see how at the inquest in June 1975 to the death of Mrs Sandra Rivett, how the Coroner believed and ACCEPTED everything Veronica said in court.
Viewers of this Channel, especially if living outside of the UK, need to understand, that everything concerning Lucans life, happened, literally within ONE SQUARE MILE. Born, Married, family home, his daily gambling at the Clermont Club, and the place the house he died in. Crazy to think how the search has gone all around the world for the past fifty years. the truth as in these types of cases, are USUALLY far closer to home, and not so exciting.
1 mile?? That's insane! Puts a bizzare perspective on his life and mindset.
I truly hope now, (but I don’t believe so) that Neil Berriman, will stop torturing himself, and stop this pure notion and wishful thinking, that the man currently living in Brisbane, Australia who he believes is Lord Lucan, is NOT Lord Lucan.
I agree 100%. Poor man.
The BBC recent gave ONE MILLION POUNDS to Five Mile Films Ltd to make this complete load of rubbish. They flew Neil to Brisbane to confront this person who Neil STILL believes is Lord Lucan. They really messed with his head, despite the FACT the Metropolitan Police determined months ago, the man is NOT lord Lucan.
A genuinely shameful piece of TV.
I didn't even bother to watch it Toby. The producer came and had lengthy talks with me, during her research. To make a brief programme, which did not cause further mental harm, to Neil Berriman may have been more acceptable. But to have made three hours TV out of the rubbish, and fly Neil to Australia is unbelievable. Once again the judgment of the BBC who funded this to the tune of a million pounds, must be questioned. What do you think?
The Aussie "Lord Lucan" doesn't even look like him. One of the real Lucan's friends actually burst out laughing when he saw the photo.
I suspect that other man is a likely a conman and has a dodgy past of his own. I suspect he's not whom he claims to be, but he isn't Lucan either.
I think there can be no such thing as an accidental murder.
Death by oxymoron?
If A intends to shoot B but misses and shoots C dead instead, that is murder (there was intent to kill), but arguably accidental.
I see your point but intending to kill his wife would be what in America is called first degree murder. Killing the nanny because he mistook her for his wife would be second degree murder. No matter where in the world you are that’s murder, the deliberate killing of another person. It’s not accidental death.
@@johnhall42 This is the UK: there's no such thing as degrees of murder. And you said "accidental murder", not "accidental death": don't move the goalposts.
@@beeble2003 I know there is no such thing as second degree murder in Britain, which is why in Britain, this kind of killing is straightforward murder. You can kill the wrong person by mistake but there is no such thing as accidental murder.
Lucan was intelligent, resourceful, with many friends and contacts. If he wanted to get away, most probably abroad, he could.
And he maintained his innocence- so why would he kill himself over something ''he didn't do''?
Yes he could have done so, but he didn’t.
@@malcolmwarrilow because he was guilty of conspiracy to murder and was facing a certain conviction and going to custody. All teh ODDS were stacked heavily against him, and he wasn’t stupid he realised that was the position.
Another opinion/story with no evidence or true facts.
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Lucan was involved with the Clermont Cub/Set and such a level of involvement meant that he would be privy/get wind of all nature of information - including sensitive information in more ways than one. The Clermont Club was an exclusive meeting ground a coming together of people of diverse but influential backgrounds. The then famous Pop Star manager, Eve Taylor ( the then 'Queen Bee' of showbusiness) was a member. Taylor was highly alert/sharp and perceptive and receptive to absorbing the networks of information.
It's my belief than he managed to get abroad with or without help from close friends/ acquaintences
@simonreeves828 And how did no journalists track him down over the next 50 years, as they had with other British fugitives e.g. Ronnie Biggs?
In 1982 I got a black taxi outside the Dorchester hotel . I started talking to the driver and the subject had got onto the police largely as a result of an incident I had witnessed on a workplace incident. The driver then almost angrily banged on about the police, how he didn't like them and stated how he could have helped them but didn't. When I pushed him on this he opened up and told me about how he had picked up someone one night in Mayfair in 1974 who was wanted by the police. He had picked this well known socialite up as a fare and drove him to another destination. It was only after that I realised who this could be. Now of course this could all be fantasy by the driver, normally these sort of people go on in more detail or come up with some other spurious story, there was something about the story and driver that made an impression on me. Ever since this incident I have wondered about this story.
Would add the above is totally true. He did volunteer some other information that was a little sketchy including taking this man to a ferry port, but I may have heard that wrong. He volunteered his thoughts that he believed he leapt to his death from the ferry. I do not believe Lucan is alive, how he met his death and when is always likely to be a mystery and subject to speculation. He is dead of that I am certain.
My sister was a Nanny to Lord Lucan's cousin just before all this happened, my sister's take on this was he went to Argentina where he had very wealthy and large land-owning relations.
A large community of British people in Argentina, and Lord Lucan seventh earl of Lucan was very tall, and would have stood out a mile. Also teh newspapers in the seventies and eighties, were offering very big money for an exclusive if someone actually found Lucan. Of course they never did, because that was impossible.
This is narrated in a somewhat confusing fashion. For example, Lucan drives to his club, gives the doorman the time of day, then apparently drives straight home with no intervening dinner, friends or alibi (4:00). The safe (whatever that is) is awash with the nanny's blood (4:37), but how do we know, because he finds his wife bleeding (5:10)? There are confusing aspects of the story itself (Lucan has three houses, the nanny is mistaken for the wife, although he has custody of the children, the nanny is at his wife's house) so it needs telling very clearly.
@usvalve Wow it was stated very clearly that the mother (as expected) gained full custody of the children.
@@crose7412 I thought the aunt did. 🤷♂
@@Pea_Green Whose aunt?
@@Pea_Green George (now Lord Lucan) decided that it would be better for him and his two sisters, to live with their aunt T and uncle Christina and Bill Shand Kydd, but this came after Lord Lucan disappeared.
The recent BBC Lucan documentary followed the modern trend of treating true crime like a piece of fiction.They prioritise cheap drama over truth.As it progressed,it became more and more farcical culminating with the unveiling of the man believed to be Lucan.One look told you it wasn’t him.All those behind the scenes,and some of those on camera,knew this yet cruelly exploited Neil Berrimam for views.
I had already told the Producer I believed Lucan to be dead. The Producer took possession of all my email correspondence from Lady Lucan. We had emailed each other for eleven years. She clearly informed me “He can’t come back, because he is dead.”
Neil Berriman has publicly stated that he was also in contact with Lady Lucan. Of course Neil would have asked the same question of Veronica, who would have replied in the same way as she did to me.
It was only in the few years after this murder, when she was asked by Thames News, what she thought had happened to her husband, that she replied that he would have started a new life for himself. However at that time she was still on medication.
@@TheLordLucanCase Bless her heart but Lady Lucan told too many conflicting stories as to what she thought happened to him after the murder. I’ve always thought that perhaps it was part of her support arrangement that she could never reveal all she knew. It was reported that she died with a fairly sizable amount of money. If this is true, where did all that money come from? She had no career, didn’t work, and was somewhat reclusive for many years. I believe she knew more than she ever told. Seems to me he lived on for some years. His estate was not probated until 1999 and he wasn’t officially declared dead until 2016 after which his title was passed on to George. I think it’s safe to assume he probably died sometime just prior to probate back in the late 1990’s.
@@ninnin261 Yes correct always part of her support arrangement, otherwise it was unlikely that she would have remained living in Belgravia. Thank you for commenting.
BS. Click baiting BS
Absolutely. Next up on this channel. Flight MH370 and how it actually landed near Basingstoke three years later painted black, with the registration number G-SHERGAR.
Indeed. A complete nonsense story. Lucan DID murder the nanny, then fled, bought a ticket and boarded a ferry; which has been proven without doubt as there are several witnesses. So either you believe he made it to France (in which case he had to smuggle himself off board because the French police was waiting for him) or, realizing he would be caught and unable to face the consequences, this spoiled and spineless (and financially broke!) man jumped overboard during the crossing, thus committing suicide. My money is on the latter scenario.
This is all so far-fetched. Who was this 'hitman' and why would Lucan be so stupid as to go to the home at the time his wife is being murdered? I don't think Lucan was the sharpest tool but he should have been as far from that scene as possible if someone else was doing the deed. His wife was adamant that it was him and nobody else. The nanny was killed (yes, mistaken for the wife in the dark) and Veronica was attacked, and you think that she stopped to think clearly and cleverly that she could 'use' this to get permanent custody of the children? I find this whole scenario rather delusional. I have no doubt that his friends helped him but a suicide in this case would be neither 'honourable' nor 'falling on his sword'. It would be his inability to face what he had done. Wherever he went and however he died, he was a murderer - not an accidental murderer. It sounds throughout that you admire him. I find that most shocking of all.
When you had very high connections like Lucan had, the options for suicide would be very low down the scale compared to other choices. Everything in his makeup suggest a man with little honour and integrity, who wasn't the type to kill himself. The highest likelihood is he fled to another country (somewhere in Africa) and assumed a false identity.
He had a gambling habit along with a love of booze, so if he lived abroad somewhere he would not be able to stay out of those places where he could gamble and drink, and would have been spotted by someone. Plus who would have supplied him with money all that time?
@@janetpendlebury6808 His brother Hugh Bingham stated that Lord Lucan was innocent of murder and escaped to Africa to start a new life; as there was no chance of a fair trial. Personally I believe him more far more than anyone else on this matter. Why should he lie?
VERY sensible response. Thank You very much. Have you viewed the link in my Posts, concerning what his Son stated?
Hugh (Lucan’s brother) only apparently stated things off camera. I know as I convinced Hugh to start writing his book.
The final answer to this conundrum, if there ever can be one, will be based on the holistic study of all of the available evidence, an assessment of its truthfulness, an analysis of the entirety of the findings, an objective weighing of what may have possibly occurred, and finally a careful judging of which was the most probable chain of events. As always, what people may speculate is of little or no value, and the most convincing answer will rely upon what can actually be proved. With the passage of time and the amount of misinformation which surrounds this iconic Case, it is most likely that unless further Real Evidence comes to light, we will never know beyond a Reasonable Doubt what actually happened to John Bingham, 7th Earl of Lucan after the brutal killing of Sandra Rivett on 7th November 1974.
Could all the "information" pertaining to this incident be analysed by an AI?. Just to "see" what it comes up with. JAT.
@@mikeneill6813 that's not a thing.
He was a violent monster to his poor wife. Some think he was disposed of and fed to his friend's lions 😅😅
Is this narrator an undertaker?
He was certainly alive in the 90s when a friend of his who banked at Coutts told his manager he was off to see him for a holiday.
Citation?
Certainly is a big word for that kind of dubious heresay.
Heresay
"Jungle Barry"?. A 6'7" Englishman, playing covers on a Greek island?. Photo id, would be possible these days?.
@@anneshrubsole406And undoubtedly a joke at Coutts bank. .... I have logged in to online training delivered internally by my employer, using the name of a notorious criminal. It was a joke, it doesn't not mean I am that notorious criminal.
first i've ever heard of a hitman theory. surely if you hire a hitman you go somewhere else to establish an alibi, you don't go near the scene of the crime.
@johnwightman7549 It was stated he went to Clermont Club and spoke to Billy, to establish an alibi.
I believe he was a narcissist so wouldn’t take his own life. He was smuggled out of the country by one of his many wealthy friends.
I don’t agree. I think that he escaped the country.
Lots of theories, alleged sightings, and Hitmen. Mysterious phone calls 📞. Driving his car to Newhaven and catching the ferry. Friends with planes and mystery flights. ✈️. But somebody did know.
I think he managed to get to South Africa, where he laid low with an old school chum on a large estate !
The best friend of lord Lucan was john Aspinal who owned port lympne zoo in kent jimmy shave was his right hand man i believe theses 2guys was something to do with his helping in his disappearance
@elizabethpal I believe John Aspinal and the others in his group helped him. I don’t think he jumped off the ferry nor do I believe he killed himself in his house that night
@suemount6042 I was told a few years back by the son of jimmy shave the rhinos keeper live at port lympe zoo was right hand man to john Aspinall shave drove lord lucan to the Manson airport to get flight africa
The Corsair still exists and is taxed until September 2025
Maybe he's hiding in the Boot ! ! !
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You silly billy
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There is attraction and repulsion.
The "music" was vile.
I was repulsed.
Enough to comment.
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He was shot and pushed over the side of s boat half across the channell. The people who helped realised they were facing serious jail if he was caught.
that makes perfect sense now we know a hitman was involved.
@@rosewhite--- There is no evidence that a hitman was involved.
Veronica said, after his death was formalised, Bingham likely went under a cross-channel ferry. I’m inclined to agree with her. Whether he was “helped” over the handrail is another matter, but I think his intention was to die that night.
A complete nonsense story. Lucan DID murder the nanny, then fled, bought a ticket and boarded a ferry; which has been proven without doubt as there are several witnesses. So either you believe he made it to France (in which case he had to smuggle himself off board because the French police was waiting for him) or, realizing he would be caught and unable to face the consequences, this spoiled and spineless (and financially broke!) man jumped overboard during the crossing, thus committing suicide. My money is on the latter scenario.
So where did Lucan park the Corsair? Did he get a spot right outside no 46? As he would have needed. Yet its assumed he walked on foot to Chester Square - would he have risked walking back to get it? Maybe shows he had help (Benson/Aspinall?) before Uckfield. Lucan left no 46 at about 09.50pm yet didn't ring mother til 10.30pm. Had to have called on a friend.
So what happened to Lucans body?
There are only two possibilities to where his body went. either in the Sea as suggested by Aspinall or he was fed to the Tigers. Strange really, that when the Police asked Aspinall's Mother if she knew where Lord Lucan was, she replied, last she heard he was being fed to her Sons Tigers. Although Aspinall later commented (apparently) that his Tigers had better taste.
Yes I had read what Aspinal and his Mother had said, however, that does seem a risky way to dispose of a body, due to the fact that a tiger, particularly a captive one such as Aspinals who have a regular source of food, would eat the flesh but would not necessarily be too concerned with consuming the bones or teeth, which would potentially leave evidence behind.
@@amywoods8868 Yes correct but much easier to dispose of bones and weight them in the English Channel.
Fed to the tigers owned by his best friend
@@williamfogarty4001 Most likely at the bottom of the English Channel as Aspinall has previously stated, and Aspinall stated Lucan committed suicide, the aspect which does not appear to be truthful, is that Lucan ‘scuttled a boat.’
Being close to the Royals, they whisked him away to avoid scandal, like Royals always do, we can't have a Royal in jail now can we Andrew?😊
How did whisking Lord Lucan away avoid scandal? There was a scandal. Almost everyone thinks he was a murderer. People think Andrew is guilty. You don't have to be behind bars for there to be a scandal.
Nonsense
only close geographically
Right, so there's no whiff of scandal around Lucan or Andrew because they didn't go to jail.
He didn't have a connection to the Royal Family
Very strange that extracts of the Diary, written by Lord Lucans friend on the morning of Friday 8th November 1974, were bizarrely all removed from my home. Lost for ever!
Were the diary extracts stolen from your house or removed in an official way?
NEITHER. All seven box files my research material on the Lord Lucan case, were removed from my home on the 4th July 2008 by an animal licensing officer. the full story is in the links. Her actions were TOTALLY ILLEGAL.
@@TheLordLucanCase Oh wow!
Also , Greville Howard was the tenant at 5 Eton Row, not 3 as you stated in this video.
ZIs it just a theory that Lucan made the phone calls from a friend's house in Ebury St? Who claimed to overhear him? I believe Lucan did visit SMS at Uckfield- the decoy scenario is too clever for them
Your version of events could easily describe the actions of Lady Lucan to gain control of the estate as well as custody of the children. The scenario in the house proposed here could have been the plan of Lady Lucan. The prescence of the nanny was as a result of a so called change of plan of his wife. The events in the basement were equally of script as the Lady would normally cover this chore. Any injury to the Lady could have occurred when the nanny has defended herself. Two events of planets aligning and no alternative narrative has been considered. The outcome of the custody hearing and how he was perceived post hearing could be the very reason he fled fearing prejudice. There is no counter version of events given by Lord Lucan. There is only a one sided story that has never been defended.
It is a great shame indeed, that Lord Lucan never felt able to face up to the situation and put his side forward. Lucan was always guilty of ‘conspiracy to murder’ but not murder. His sister Lady Sarah Gibbs came the closest to explaining matters.
If I heard correctly, his driving licence and passport were found at his address, so doubt he would have been able to get on the ferry without either. Would he have been able to buy a ticket at the ferry terminal in the early hours? Of course, if he had used false ID, then you're talking about a lot of pre-planning, well ahead of the night of the murder, that at least some of his friends would most likely be aware, would they not have tried to stop him?
Having grown up in Uckfield and being fully aware it was the last official sighting, then his car being found in Newhaven, another town I've known well most of my life, there isn't just the ferry, there is a fishing fleet and marina, so plenty of smaller boats he could have got onto either a fishing boat or yacht much easier, (regularly fishing Newhaven harbour and Seaford Beach, I see both arriving and departing at all times,) whereas the ferry is only 2 departures a day.
If he did leave Newhaven on a fishing boat or yacht, then reading other comments on here, he could have ended up overboard, either by his own means, or aided and easier to get away without calling man overboard, whereas if he had got the ferry, I would have thought they'd have counted foot passengers on and off, so more likely a search would have been called once docked in Dieppe.
Of course, a small boat, could easily berth into another port/harbour along the Sussex or Kent coast, possibly under the guise of technical issues and then he disembarking to a friend who has come to pick him up, with no one the wiser.
Whether he was returned to London, he made it abroad, or some misadventure happened to him I have no idea.
You do not need to have driving licence to get on ferry in 1974 if you were a foot passenger. Back in those days checks were limited and often there was no one in attendance. I got a night ferry as a 16 year old schoolboy to Zeebrugge, absolutely no checks were done on who I was and what I was doing I didn't even have a passport, we bought the tickets cash, there were very few credit cards at that time it was easy to travel.. So in conclusion Lucan could have got on the ferry as a foot passenger. I believe it was on the ferry and he jumped off. There would be little in the way of head count and no surveillance cameras to record these sort of actions. Different lax times.
@@terencebates6808 Appreciate different times, but one would expect at least some witnesses on the Newhaven ferry if he got on it, which is why getting onto either a fishing boat of yacht is still a probability, especially as easier to walk down to the marina from Norman Road, than crossing the swing bridge to get onto the ferry. Then the car in Newhaven, could well be a red herring, taken there by the Maxwell-Scotts, or an employee and he never went any further south than Uckfield.
Of course, everything other than known facts, is purely speculation and makes for interesting theories.
@@asp383 it could be he wasn't on the Newhaven ferry but took a different one. As I say I went on a night ferry as a passenger in the very early hours, hardly a soul on the boat certainly no one as a foot passenger other than me and my mate. We were both still at school, no one questioned anything , we didn't even have passports just a simple ID travel pass. On the boat , were lorry drivers and a few cars.
@@terencebates6808 Depending on cargo ships sailing at the time it would have been quite a tight timeline between leaving the car and the ship sailing, which I doubt this would have been an option, as it seemed his coming to Uckfield, was a reaction to the murder/attempted murder.
This is why I would be more convinced (if he was in Newhaven), he took a fishing boat, or yacht, although again, the former may not have left much time to organise before the car was discovered. He raced power boats, so not inconceivable to say he could sail a yacht, which could allow for a safer escape from Newhaven, either into another South Coast harbour/marina, or even further afield, if it was stocked well.
While it could be possible to go by train from Newhaven, to Ashford, to Dover or Newhaven to Portsmouth, I think this would have been too risky at being recognised the longer he was in public areas, as no doubt by the time the car was discovered, police forces had all the information, so again, depending on sailing times of cargo ships or ferry, there may have been time for police to do the obvious checks. I'm not aware of any apps that will tell you the high tide times in history, but suspect cargo ships and the ferry have always sailed around high tide.
I'm not disputing your account of travelling on a ferry around the same time and there would most likely have been much less travellers at night, however, I'm still thinking, although going to Uckfield most likely wasn't planned, he clearly spent some time there, as even in 1974, before the Uckfield Bypass, Caulfail tunnel and Lewes bypass were been built, it still wouldn't have taken any more than 30 minutes max from Uckfield to where the car was parked, so he obviously had time to regroup, write 2 letters and post them (although as I understand it, the envelopes were discarded, so postmarks are unknown), plus we don't know if he, the Maxwell-Scotts or their employees posted them. It could also have provided ample time to arrange his next move(s).
It is quite possible the Maxwell-Scotts were more involved with what happened next, than they admitted to and may have made some calls, not necessarily from their home, but there were plenty of phone boxes around Uckfield, some fairly secluded. Again, just speculation, but has been quite interesting reading through the comments for other people's thoughts on what happened in the timeline, from Uckfield.
The nanny wasn't killed by a hitman, she was killed by Lucan, he couldn't have seen anyone struggling in the basement as the light bulb had been removed, it was pitch black, lady lucan recognised Lucan, they went up to the bedroom.he went to wet a cloth and she escaped. There was no other man in the house. He asked the kids which night Sandra wasn't in, but she had changed the night so he killed the nanny by mistake.
Lucan was obviously familiar with the nanny, he would have known by her size,shape, smell or whatever even in the shadows that it was not his wife, also his wife probably rarely ( if ever)went near the basement kitchen.
Probably had a few drinks down him , so wouldn't have been in full control of his actions?@Comfortzone99
@Comfortzone99 According to the oldest daughter Lady Lucan did go to the basement kitchen routinely on the nanny's night off to make tea (this was the only kitchen in the house). The nanny changed her night off to the following night and volunteered to make tea on this night that was normally her night off. Lord Lucan or a hitman (IMO, it was Lord Lucan) mistook the nanny for his wife when she came to the kitchen to make tea. Lord Lucan removed the lightbulb in the basement kitchen and waited for Lady Lucan to come downstairs to make a cup of tea . It was dark and Lord Lucan was probably very nervous since he was there to murder his wife and mistakenly killed the nanny. He then put her body in a US mailbag. When Lady Lucan came downstairs to check on the the nanny, he tried to kill her and beat her very badly on her head.
@Comfortzone99 sensible
I just love the comments on videos like this even better than the video itself. If anyone knows the truth behind this tale they are keeping it to themselves but some people that comment insist they have the answer's even though they couldn't possibly know. That or simply criticising others and not presenting another answer. This is common on RUclips and I don't criticise them after all everyone has a right to opinion, but I do find it very very amusing. 😅🤣😂
Spot on! I love watching videos like this because you just know the comments are going to be hilarious😂😂
Lucan intended to kill his wife, but killed the nanny instead. This was not accidental. It was transferred intent. He made a mistake when he killed the nanny, but the intent to kill was still evident.
Nah mate. I have spoken to a former DCI from the Belgravia nick. He was smuggled out of the country. There were several false trails left. The painter Dominic Elwes was compelled to commit suicide for an inappropriate painting. It was made clear to him his career was over and he had a big mouth. Jimmys chauffeur, drove round to Elwes Mews house with a bottle of pills and an ultimatum. Lucan was flown out to Crete and onwards from there.
I thought I might learn something new here. However, you have strung me along, old son. I am most displeased.
What's with the silly, stagey voice-over? "Dragging things out to minimum effect"
Omg.. a Shand-Kydd familiar connection.Interesting..
In your initial disclaimer you said the ' accidental murder' Well there's no such thing, it's either murder ( intentional) or manslaughter /accidental killing etc but you can't have an accidental murder
@davidmellish3295 The wrong woman was killed by mistake i.e. an unintentional victim. Not murdered by accident but still an accidental/incorrect murder.
Sounds very plausible. Great video, well put together. DrZ🙏🏻
He's buried in west Wales,if local knowledge is to be believed...killed and buried
And so is The Arc of the Covenant, allegedly.. 😆
Not sure I would ever have described him as "honourable" but okay.
Lucan is still alive and living in a caravan in leysdown on the isle of sheppy
I heard that he was last seen riding Shergar
@michaelbuckley8986 He was mate many years ago on the isle of sheppy
No that's Salman Rhushdie you're thinking of 😂
No, he works with Elvis at our local chip shop
@mikestrohm3271 on the isle of sheppy
"Sarsfield is the word and Sarsfield is the man." Not such a non sequitur as you light think if you know something about the original Tiarna Leamhcáin.
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Great video, thank you :)
Lucan did not die in London he was killed sort of next door to me around 2am when they failed to get him out of Lymphe Airport because Graham Hill never showed up to fly him out dont look for him there is nothing to find but you should look into Greville Veronica was covering up for him
He has been found in Australia by the son of the maid he murdered. No arrest made and persuaded not to pursue.
As for me imo, MI5 took him out, they were not going to let a peer of the realm go to trial for murder. They decided to make him disappear, end of the story, finished.
Excellent video. People somehow want to believe Lucan survived. In reality he was probably dead very soon after the murder.
It always makes for a far better news paper ‘filler’ to carry on such a saga. They have done well to fill their papers with this absolute rubbish for the past fifty years!
Did you watch the link in the Description for this latest video, in which Lucan’s son states that he doesn’t think his father got out of London. I knew George. George uses the term ‘intuition’ note I use the same phrase ‘intuition.’ 🙂
Not very likely that he would have killed the nanny by mistake not realising that she was not his wife !
I think he was under the impression that it was Mrs Rivett's evening off so in the half darkness an easy mistake.
@@Paul1510WB Surely not an easy mistake, given the difference in height between Mrs Rivett and his wife... the killer saw enough to strike the victim on the head. Had it been Lord Lucan, he'd have known it was not his wife as she was short and barely reached his shoulder.
@@Paul1510WB Had he taken any alcohol or drugs maybe ?
@@Jubilee33382 He expected the women he saw, in the dark, to be his wife, he was hiding and struck out at her - he was not a professional and had probably bolstered himself up with alcohol beforehand. Sandra Rivett was only 5' 2"
@@Paul1510WB Houses have lights so what makes you think it was dark there?
I’m not sure why he has garnered so much attention over the years!!
Reading through the comments it's clear that people are forgetting the year and that the lines of communication were nothing like they are today. Lightning reflexes must have been employed somewhere if all the escape palaver is to be credited as true. I have no idea whether old Lucky is alive or dead, in Africa or at the bottom of the Channel but it's always been an interesting story to revisit and ponder. Ah, will we ever know . . ?
Why would Lord Lucan say that he was concerned that his children needed to be protected from his wife?
Not exactly sure where you are referring to, but most likely because in his attempt to gain custody of the three children, he was doing and saying all sorts of things. This included bugging phone conversations.
Oh yes was hiding in Goa under some name like jungle Jim.
And we believe it
You do know he was found in Australia a few years ago. He has a string of fake identifys. There is a film on Netflix or ITV this year
No he didn't! My Dad saw him after that near Midurst in Surrey. He stepped out of the hedge into the road, Dad had to drive around him! Turns out that Dad had an almost identical Aston Martin DBS to Lucan's best mate! Now join the dots!
A complete nonsense story. Lucan DID murder the nanny, then fled, bought a ticket and boarded a ferry; which has been proven without doubt as there are several witnesses. So either you believe he made it to France (in which case he had to smuggle himself off board because the French police was waiting for him) or, realizing he would be caught and unable to face the consequences, this spoiled and spineless (and financially broke!) man jumped overboard during the crossing, thus committing suicide. My money is on the latter scenario.
If this is true, can you explain why he has been seen as recent as the 2000's in Australia?
He was never in Australia.
If you are referring to the man who is living in Brisbane, then the Metropolitan Police concluded, months ago, that poor hounded man, is not Lord Lucan.
Of course he was NEVER in Australia. Spot on.
If viewers take the time to watch the links in the description to this video, there is one where his son George Bingham, now Lord Lucan eight Earl of Lucan, stated that it was his ‘intuition’ interesting terminology, that his father never ‘got out of London.’
He went into hiding for a while then came into plain view disguising himself as a rockstar named Freddie Mercury.😜
Cheeky 😊😊
This 'gag' would only work (barely) if Queen/Freddie Mercury hadn't been around for several years before November 1974, which of course they had.
He didn't die
lots of rich upperclass people have vast estates where lucan could have been hidden.
He was of Anglo-Irish Peerage maybe went to Ireland🤷♂
@@michaelbuckley8986 If he managed to get to FRance or Spain and hide out for a few years while he fatteened up and grew a bit hippy he'd be unrecognisable.
He was not the sort of man to remain hidden.
@@janetpendlebury6808 No, but then leaving his London life behind would be a shock.
Hard to know the truth in some cases.
I was under impression 50 years ago that the wife had claimed it was Lucan who killed the maid...
The only innocent victims was Sandra and her family. His friends didn't give her a thought. What was honourable about suicide, his family also did not consider her a victim, only poor John the weak man, with no moral compass. The author of his own downfall.
I saw him in tescos just the other day .. heavens above .. he bought a packet of monster munch .. and a curly wurly .. then jumped in his car outside .. put two fingers up and screeched the car and done one !! I’m in disbelief 😩😩🤣🤣🤣
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WRONG!!! you have no clue to what happened.
Hello are you related to the family?
This video went pretty viral.
I went to Australia at the time and all said I was him.
Not a chance. He was in South Africa until he died.
Lucan was murdered.
How did he know the police were at the pub......
sad story
Seems about as far fetched as all the other theories.
Had he slipped in blood, then it would be all over his shoes and he would have left foot prints. The "friend" would surely notice as "with seconds to react" he wouldn't have time to change his shoes?
He left the country and I know how and where. Also who did it, using the Masonic connections.
This area has rich pickings, just saying
Where is the proof he took his own life.
I think the butler did it in the study with an iron bar
Mrs Parker-Bowles may know the truth. Ask her.
"Lucky" did a Rock Hudson stunt as in the film Seconds.
I don’t believe that he was dead in London straight after he killed the nanny as his body would have shown up somewhere
His addiction was gambling so instead of looking in the out back of Australia they should of looked in the gambling city's around the world!
Just as plausible as the neat clothes on the beach story!
If a plumber, no story of a runner ... But being a Lord, the media adored.
In 1974 my two brothers were in Newhaven fort it was empty we saw the police chasing a man in a black coat I don't know if it's was lord Lucan or a tramp
Load of rubbish . Friends of Lucan helped him escape. Waste of time watching this.
He can't have, I saw him in Man chester in 1982. And also a few people saw him in Manchester YMCA about that time.
Utter rubbish. Go away.
Lord Lucan was on a hunting trip with me in Botswana in the 1980’s
Pure speculation and fantasy.
Fiction
rubbish... i had come across a view that a hopeful filmstar was the hired hand it is said they was in london odd-jobbing and this hit was a leg up the holywood ladder,considering their inability to act that,maybe a modicum of understanding his rise to fame... i point out this is hear-saying a hearsayer on ytube... so who knows? someone 4sure.
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